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Remove Decorations Around Emacs Frame (Windows OS)
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Message #89 received at 25408 <at> debbugs.gnu.org (full text, mbox):
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That's great. Are you going to push your patch to git-repo?
When it comes to other platforms than Windows, I have no idea about OS X
since I don't own any macs, but for X11, we have different means to
controll decorations and their looks & behaviour. On X11 we have window
managers that makes it easy to configure (or remove) borders, decorations
etc, so in my humble opinion I don't think you have to spend countless time
to make it work with every possible window manager etc. I didn't even
thought of this on Linux, I only needed it for windows, to make Emacs
behave more like it does on Linux.
2017-02-12 12:13 GMT+01:00 martin rudalics <rudalics <at> gmx.at>:
> > Thanks! The patch applied cleanly and everything compiled fine.
>
> Thanks for testing. Please tell me your build and window manager types.
>
> > ✓, although if I create a frame with no-focus-on-map I then need a
> > call to raise-frame to raise it — even if its z-group is 'above.
> > Maybe when z-group is "above" the frame should be automatically
> > raised?
>
> Not so here (with a GTK 3.4.2 build on Debian running xfwm). Evaluating
>
> (make-frame '((no-focus-on-map . t) (z-group . above)))
>
> makes a new frame on top of the existing one regardless of whether xfwm
> is set up to use focus follows mouse or not.
>
> We probably have to investigate that further.
>
> > ✓, although it would be nice to automatically raise the frame when
> > x-group is above. I can call raise-frame, but it doesn't work
> > correctly when the frame is invisible (and setting the visibility to t
> > before raising the frame doesn't work either).
>
> I mentioned that: When a frame is made invisible, its z-group is reset
> to nil by the window system or manager. x_set_z_group can't cope with
> that because the last line of
>
> x_set_z_group (struct frame *f, Lisp_Object new_value, Lisp_Object
> old_value)
> {
> if (!EQ (new_value, old_value))
>
> still assumes that the frame is "above". For the moment try with
>
> (set-frame-parameter frame 'z-group nil)
> ...
> (set-frame-parameter frame 'z-group 'above)
>
> as a workaround. I'm not yet sure whether it's better to (1) have
> x_make_frame_invisible and x_iconify_frame reset the z-group parameter
> explicitly, (2) change x_set_z_group so it always issues a request to
> the window system, or (3) remove the z-group parameter and make the
> z-group setting an option of the `frame-restack' function.
>
> Unfortunately, the z-group equivalents in X 11 are a complete mess: You
> can put a window simultaneously in the ‘above’ and the ‘below’ groups
> and it notwhere says what should prevail and what happens when you later
> remove a window from one of these groups (I trioed to avoid this dilemma
> with the z-group concept). And restacking may probably remove a window
> from these groups and maybe not allow to put it there and so on ...
>
> And why not avoid z-groups at all? Because you cannot simply restack a
> frame on top of the "active" frame. If you try (via a foucs-in-hooked
> function) you will see that your window system uses up all available
> resources because the window system wants to raise the active frame and
> Emacs wants to raise the other one. So to put a frame on top of the
> "active" frame you have to put that frame in the ‘above’ group.
>
> > * Creating a frame is rather slow; the following is an excerpt of a
> profile:
> >
> > - make-frame 442
> 29%
> > - frame-creation-function 440
> 29%
> > - apply 440
> 29%
> > - #<compiled 0x4862dd> 440
> 29%
> > - x-create-frame-with-faces 440
> 29%
> > - face-set-after-frame-default 307
> 20%
> > - face-spec-recalc 276
> 18%
> > - make-face-x-resource-internal 217
> 14%
> > - set-face-attributes-from-resources 213
> 14%
> > - set-face-attribute-from-resource 190
> 12%
> > - face-name 126
> 8%
> > + check-face 118
> 7%
> > + face-spec-reset-face 44
> 2%
> > + face-spec-set-2 7
> 0%
> > set-face-attribute 8
> 0%
> > normal-erase-is-backspace-setup-frame
> 2 0%
>
> But isn't that the problem I tried to tackle (for tooltip frames) with
> the option ‘tooltip-reuse-hidden-frame’? All this face-related stuff is
> an ecological disaster IMHO. Here, creating a tooltip frame caused up
> to two GC cycles before I added that option.
>
> So as a rule create your frames (lazily) once for each session and hide
> them when you don't need them.
>
> > * Frames with z-group set to 'above are not automatically raised when
> > no-focus-on-map is set, so I need to call x-raise-frame on them; this
> > doesn't work when they are invisible (instead it makes them visible
> > without raising them, it seems).
>
> I hope I described the problem and a workaround above. I attach my
> functions for testing attached frames so you can see how I handle this
> currently.
>
> > * Creating a frame / making it visible uses my WM's frame creating
> animation — is there a way to disable this (x-show-tip doesn't have it)?
>
> No idea. I can look into that (as a rule I turn off all animations
> here). Do you use GTK tooltips or Emacs' native ones?
>
> martin
>
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