From unknown Mon Jun 23 00:36:20 2025 X-Loop: help-debbugs@gnu.org Subject: bug#25360: File mode specification errors during building Resent-From: Glenn Morris Original-Sender: "Debbugs-submit" Resent-CC: bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org Resent-Date: Wed, 04 Jan 2017 20:29:02 +0000 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-Sender: help-debbugs@gnu.org X-GNU-PR-Message: report 25360 X-GNU-PR-Package: emacs X-GNU-PR-Keywords: To: 25360@debbugs.gnu.org X-Debbugs-Original-To: submit@debbugs.gnu.org Received: via spool by submit@debbugs.gnu.org id=B.148356171429907 (code B ref -1); Wed, 04 Jan 2017 20:29:02 +0000 Received: (at submit) by debbugs.gnu.org; 4 Jan 2017 20:28:34 +0000 Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:41479 helo=debbugs.gnu.org) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1cOsAk-0007mJ-Cs for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Wed, 04 Jan 2017 15:28:34 -0500 Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([208.118.235.92]:34279) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1cOsAj-0007m8-Iq for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Wed, 04 Jan 2017 15:28:33 -0500 Received: from Debian-exim by eggs.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1cOsAd-0005H8-Gf for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Wed, 04 Jan 2017 15:28:28 -0500 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.3.2 (2011-06-06) on eggs.gnu.org X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-3.2 required=5.0 tests=BAYES_20,RP_MATCHES_RCVD autolearn=disabled version=3.3.2 Received: from fencepost.gnu.org ([2001:4830:134:3::e]:48436) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1cOsAd-0005Gu-CO for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Wed, 04 Jan 2017 15:28:27 -0500 Received: from rgm by fencepost.gnu.org with local (Exim 4.82) (envelope-from ) id 1cOsAc-00056f-UH; Wed, 04 Jan 2017 15:28:26 -0500 From: Glenn Morris X-Spook: Marijuana Project Monarch explosion import EuroFed Drug X-Ran: V;=$dD=uhjE.%yjv\:F6YnUCooDfT4,hG5\*,PxiCSDS&7]U_H@y?@dmN16L~]3iptmFg: X-Hue: white X-Attribution: GM Date: Wed, 04 Jan 2017 15:28:26 -0500 Message-ID: User-Agent: Gnus (www.gnus.org), GNU Emacs (www.gnu.org/software/emacs/) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain X-detected-operating-system: by eggs.gnu.org: GNU/Linux 2.2.x-3.x [generic] X-Received-From: 2001:4830:134:3::e X-Spam-Score: -8.2 (--------) X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18 Precedence: list List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Sender: "Debbugs-submit" X-Spam-Score: -8.2 (--------) Package: emacs Version: 26.0.50 In current master, the following errors occur during building: Converting cangjie-table.b5 to tsang-b5.el... File mode specification error: (wrong-type-argument stringp image-type-auto-detected-p) (same for quick-b5.el, tsang-cns.el, quick-cns.el, PY.el, ZIRANMA.el) Converting CTLau.html to CTLau.el... File mode specification error: (void-function html-mode) (same for CTLau-b5.el) They don't actually seem to stop the build, but still they should not be happening. (I would guess recent changes related to loaddefs generation are the cause.) See eg http://hydra.nixos.org/build/45973447/log/raw From unknown Mon Jun 23 00:36:20 2025 X-Loop: help-debbugs@gnu.org Subject: bug#25360: File mode specification errors during building Resent-From: Eli Zaretskii Original-Sender: "Debbugs-submit" Resent-CC: bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org Resent-Date: Sat, 07 Jan 2017 08:04:01 +0000 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-Sender: help-debbugs@gnu.org X-GNU-PR-Message: followup 25360 X-GNU-PR-Package: emacs X-GNU-PR-Keywords: To: Glenn Morris , phillip.lord@russet.org.uk (Phillip Lord) Cc: 25360@debbugs.gnu.org Reply-To: Eli Zaretskii Received: via spool by 25360-submit@debbugs.gnu.org id=B25360.148377620729176 (code B ref 25360); Sat, 07 Jan 2017 08:04:01 +0000 Received: (at 25360) by debbugs.gnu.org; 7 Jan 2017 08:03:27 +0000 Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:45542 helo=debbugs.gnu.org) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1cPlyJ-0007aW-H0 for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Sat, 07 Jan 2017 03:03:27 -0500 Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([208.118.235.92]:37513) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1cPlyI-0007aJ-Go for 25360@debbugs.gnu.org; Sat, 07 Jan 2017 03:03:26 -0500 Received: from Debian-exim by eggs.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1cPly8-0000SG-PV for 25360@debbugs.gnu.org; Sat, 07 Jan 2017 03:03:21 -0500 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.3.2 (2011-06-06) on eggs.gnu.org X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-2.4 required=5.0 tests=BAYES_50,RP_MATCHES_RCVD autolearn=disabled version=3.3.2 Received: from fencepost.gnu.org ([2001:4830:134:3::e]:43826) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1cPly8-0000SC-M1; Sat, 07 Jan 2017 03:03:16 -0500 Received: from 84.94.185.246.cable.012.net.il ([84.94.185.246]:1953 helo=home-c4e4a596f7) by fencepost.gnu.org with esmtpsa (TLS1.2:RSA_AES_256_CBC_SHA1:256) (Exim 4.82) (envelope-from ) id 1cPly6-0004HR-LX; Sat, 07 Jan 2017 03:03:15 -0500 Date: Sat, 07 Jan 2017 10:03:36 +0200 Message-Id: <8337gvcn53.fsf@gnu.org> From: Eli Zaretskii In-reply-to: (message from Glenn Morris on Wed, 04 Jan 2017 15:28:26 -0500) References: X-detected-operating-system: by eggs.gnu.org: GNU/Linux 2.2.x-3.x [generic] X-Received-From: 2001:4830:134:3::e X-Spam-Score: -8.2 (--------) X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18 Precedence: list List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Sender: "Debbugs-submit" X-Spam-Score: -8.2 (--------) > From: Glenn Morris > Date: Wed, 04 Jan 2017 15:28:26 -0500 > > In current master, the following errors occur during building: > > Converting cangjie-table.b5 to tsang-b5.el... > File mode specification error: (wrong-type-argument stringp image-type-auto-detected-p) > > (same for quick-b5.el, tsang-cns.el, quick-cns.el, PY.el, ZIRANMA.el) > > Converting CTLau.html to CTLau.el... > File mode specification error: (void-function html-mode) > > (same for CTLau-b5.el) > > > They don't actually seem to stop the build, but still they should not be > happening. (I would guess recent changes related to loaddefs generation > are the cause.) > > > See eg http://hydra.nixos.org/build/45973447/log/raw Phillip, could you please look into this? Thanks. From unknown Mon Jun 23 00:36:20 2025 X-Loop: help-debbugs@gnu.org Subject: bug#25360: File mode specification errors during building Resent-From: phillip.lord@russet.org.uk (Phillip Lord) Original-Sender: "Debbugs-submit" Resent-CC: bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org Resent-Date: Mon, 09 Jan 2017 13:07:01 +0000 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-Sender: help-debbugs@gnu.org X-GNU-PR-Message: followup 25360 X-GNU-PR-Package: emacs X-GNU-PR-Keywords: To: Eli Zaretskii Cc: Glenn Morris , 25360@debbugs.gnu.org Received: via spool by 25360-submit@debbugs.gnu.org id=B25360.14839672102832 (code B ref 25360); Mon, 09 Jan 2017 13:07:01 +0000 Received: (at 25360) by debbugs.gnu.org; 9 Jan 2017 13:06:50 +0000 Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:47443 helo=debbugs.gnu.org) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1cQZf0-0000jc-M3 for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Mon, 09 Jan 2017 08:06:50 -0500 Received: from mailgw.mycpanelcloud.co.uk ([185.116.214.213]:10590) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1cQZey-0000jO-Om for 25360@debbugs.gnu.org; Mon, 09 Jan 2017 08:06:49 -0500 Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mailgw.mycpanelcloud.co.uk (Postfix) with ESMTP id A46EAC40B2 for <25360@debbugs.gnu.org>; Mon, 9 Jan 2017 13:06:20 +0000 (GMT) X-Virus-Scanned: by SpamTitan at mycpanelcloud.co.uk Received: from mailgw.mycpanelcloud.co.uk (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mailgw.mycpanelcloud.co.uk (Postfix) with ESMTP id E8C0BC4F7D for <25360@debbugs.gnu.org>; Mon, 9 Jan 2017 13:06:18 +0000 (GMT) Received: from cloud103.planethippo.com (cloud103.planethippo.com [31.216.48.48]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES256-GCM-SHA384 (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by mailgw.mycpanelcloud.co.uk (Postfix) with ESMTPS id DD403C4F67 for <25360@debbugs.gnu.org>; Mon, 9 Jan 2017 13:06:18 +0000 (GMT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; q=dns/txt; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=russet.org.uk; s=default; h=Content-Type:MIME-Version:Message-ID: In-Reply-To:Date:References:Subject:Cc:To:From:Sender:Reply-To: Content-Transfer-Encoding:Content-ID:Content-Description:Resent-Date: Resent-From:Resent-Sender:Resent-To:Resent-Cc:Resent-Message-ID:List-Id: List-Help:List-Unsubscribe:List-Subscribe:List-Post:List-Owner:List-Archive; bh=HRWyHiluHSUx4oiFh0YC+B/FHNYyfFbc5fVjL6sw/CQ=; b=zx5aVxJo8lvjwSfFiARcYzy6E vOzir+nGQ+CB1SegMRZqWGuLracBsmBA0KIQoFo6HPgG/rT2GqcIp1EB8gD/Fi5lGKKpvhBbcO83a 4m6u+lMowpU9SQL3n6sLnBGjLYqIljlbckqK6erNk8yzGfh1F8rDAXbfYLLRUhQmYBnfLn6jd1LpG qMMoVkYsdQuieZSeLyVS5d09JMSD5OrUVGirfbrx4MwYiE//lJ4PO+1PFqL2yvx3dYiS8z3ohZxRZ VLX/vSfUgHpRGEzpaLI444fzF+SdAhmZoDX7EBGMkDsAvFDhtiu2X58aO5QLvRb+MUgJCXyBwOThy EWqUqRgKw==; Received: from janus-nat-128-240-225-37.ncl.ac.uk ([128.240.225.37]:32770 helo=russet.org.uk) by cloud103.planethippo.com with esmtpsa (TLSv1.2:ECDHE-RSA-AES128-GCM-SHA256:128) (Exim 4.87) (envelope-from ) id 1cQZeq-0034pP-Ry; Mon, 09 Jan 2017 13:06:40 +0000 From: phillip.lord@russet.org.uk (Phillip Lord) References: <8337gvcn53.fsf@gnu.org> Date: Mon, 09 Jan 2017 13:06:40 +0000 In-Reply-To: <8337gvcn53.fsf@gnu.org> (Eli Zaretskii's message of "Sat, 07 Jan 2017 10:03:36 +0200") Message-ID: <87lguk2xi7.fsf@russet.org.uk> User-Agent: Gnus/5.13 (Gnus v5.13) Emacs/25.1.91 (gnu/linux) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain X-AntiAbuse: This header was added to track abuse, please include it with any abuse report X-AntiAbuse: Primary Hostname - cloud103.planethippo.com X-AntiAbuse: Original Domain - debbugs.gnu.org X-AntiAbuse: Originator/Caller UID/GID - [47 12] / [47 12] X-AntiAbuse: Sender Address Domain - russet.org.uk X-Get-Message-Sender-Via: cloud103.planethippo.com: authenticated_id: phillip.lord@russet.org.uk X-Authenticated-Sender: cloud103.planethippo.com: phillip.lord@russet.org.uk X-Spam-Score: 0.0 (/) X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18 Precedence: list List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Sender: "Debbugs-submit" X-Spam-Score: 0.0 (/) Eli Zaretskii writes: >> From: Glenn Morris >> Date: Wed, 04 Jan 2017 15:28:26 -0500 >> >> In current master, the following errors occur during building: >> >> Converting cangjie-table.b5 to tsang-b5.el... >> File mode specification error: (wrong-type-argument stringp image-type-auto-detected-p) >> >> (same for quick-b5.el, tsang-cns.el, quick-cns.el, PY.el, ZIRANMA.el) >> >> Converting CTLau.html to CTLau.el... >> File mode specification error: (void-function html-mode) >> >> (same for CTLau-b5.el) >> >> >> They don't actually seem to stop the build, but still they should not be >> happening. (I would guess recent changes related to loaddefs generation >> are the cause.) >> >> >> See eg http://hydra.nixos.org/build/45973447/log/raw > > Phillip, could you please look into this? Yes, that's caused by me (although I don't understand how yet). I will look at it. Phil From unknown Mon Jun 23 00:36:20 2025 X-Loop: help-debbugs@gnu.org Subject: bug#25360: File mode specification errors during building Resent-From: phillip.lord@russet.org.uk (Phillip Lord) Original-Sender: "Debbugs-submit" Resent-CC: bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org Resent-Date: Tue, 10 Jan 2017 10:22:01 +0000 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-Sender: help-debbugs@gnu.org X-GNU-PR-Message: followup 25360 X-GNU-PR-Package: emacs X-GNU-PR-Keywords: To: Glenn Morris Cc: 25360@debbugs.gnu.org Received: via spool by 25360-submit@debbugs.gnu.org id=B25360.148404368812259 (code B ref 25360); Tue, 10 Jan 2017 10:22:01 +0000 Received: (at 25360) by debbugs.gnu.org; 10 Jan 2017 10:21:28 +0000 Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:48406 helo=debbugs.gnu.org) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1cQtYV-0003Bf-NL for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Tue, 10 Jan 2017 05:21:27 -0500 Received: from mailgw.mycpanelcloud.co.uk ([185.116.214.213]:18451) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1cQtYU-0003BP-1E for 25360@debbugs.gnu.org; Tue, 10 Jan 2017 05:21:26 -0500 Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mailgw.mycpanelcloud.co.uk (Postfix) with ESMTP id B74A1C4FF1 for <25360@debbugs.gnu.org>; Tue, 10 Jan 2017 10:20:57 +0000 (GMT) X-Virus-Scanned: by SpamTitan at mycpanelcloud.co.uk Received: from mailgw.mycpanelcloud.co.uk (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mailgw.mycpanelcloud.co.uk (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0B4ACC4E8B for <25360@debbugs.gnu.org>; Tue, 10 Jan 2017 10:20:56 +0000 (GMT) Received: from cloud103.planethippo.com (cloud103.planethippo.com [31.216.48.48]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES256-GCM-SHA384 (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by mailgw.mycpanelcloud.co.uk (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 012F0C4DCC for <25360@debbugs.gnu.org>; Tue, 10 Jan 2017 10:20:55 +0000 (GMT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; q=dns/txt; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=russet.org.uk; s=default; h=Content-Type:MIME-Version:Message-ID: In-Reply-To:Date:References:Subject:Cc:To:From:Sender:Reply-To: Content-Transfer-Encoding:Content-ID:Content-Description:Resent-Date: Resent-From:Resent-Sender:Resent-To:Resent-Cc:Resent-Message-ID:List-Id: List-Help:List-Unsubscribe:List-Subscribe:List-Post:List-Owner:List-Archive; bh=0V4j2ZSWbkiSzpSjuK+jDsXH83g1l3xQM3C6TKNuiDw=; b=o3VnzmnsVcmEi8+it+OEfZTbs A1FBFP0AeEqRumZajwE35hPNWn/qW36yUHLP46oxpSJKMxaW9KkCM6nyspMYJ3b0R4mQD3ZdArYaD Ca5oJSgsAqepQDm29sDeI6Xdkb4k5OPtl1axbOGMxin0shnUVA5Y4qgvwn4nDSnzuOTnxeHDdDbyP yZFP5Y56pKZMks3I5k+Cy4rSIv5FK9CFkcfYiGOSvP5AUnJFpl+PtJldqOoUVv8Trkl3W8tg2x9K6 pTGpveDMLSfKXYRb4vxVJh6SkyH3tfP/UNbfmEv54lfYxOcM3Uk/QqEA60VYZ9s+tki11zDRWec+n 3HfSbPnVQ==; Received: from janus-nat-128-240-225-37.ncl.ac.uk ([128.240.225.37]:39427 helo=russet.org.uk) by cloud103.planethippo.com with esmtpsa (TLSv1.2:ECDHE-RSA-AES128-GCM-SHA256:128) (Exim 4.87) (envelope-from ) id 1cQtYM-003XIN-1a; Tue, 10 Jan 2017 10:21:18 +0000 From: phillip.lord@russet.org.uk (Phillip Lord) References: Date: Tue, 10 Jan 2017 10:21:12 +0000 In-Reply-To: (Glenn Morris's message of "Wed, 04 Jan 2017 15:28:26 -0500") Message-ID: <8760lndxlz.fsf@russet.org.uk> User-Agent: Gnus/5.13 (Gnus v5.13) Emacs/25.1.91 (gnu/linux) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain X-AntiAbuse: This header was added to track abuse, please include it with any abuse report X-AntiAbuse: Primary Hostname - cloud103.planethippo.com X-AntiAbuse: Original Domain - debbugs.gnu.org X-AntiAbuse: Originator/Caller UID/GID - [47 12] / [47 12] X-AntiAbuse: Sender Address Domain - russet.org.uk X-Get-Message-Sender-Via: cloud103.planethippo.com: authenticated_id: phillip.lord@russet.org.uk X-Authenticated-Sender: cloud103.planethippo.com: phillip.lord@russet.org.uk X-Spam-Score: 0.0 (/) X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18 Precedence: list List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Sender: "Debbugs-submit" X-Spam-Score: 0.0 (/) Glenn Morris writes: > Package: emacs > Version: 26.0.50 > > In current master, the following errors occur during building: > > Converting cangjie-table.b5 to tsang-b5.el... > File mode specification error: (wrong-type-argument stringp image-type-auto-detected-p) > > (same for quick-b5.el, tsang-cns.el, quick-cns.el, PY.el, ZIRANMA.el) > > Converting CTLau.html to CTLau.el... > File mode specification error: (void-function html-mode) > > (same for CTLau-b5.el) > > > They don't actually seem to stop the build, but still they should not be > happening. (I would guess recent changes related to loaddefs generation > are the cause.) I do not quite understand why this is not working -- loaddefs.el has been generated at this point. I still do not fully understand what is happening during the dumping process, though, so I guess bootstrap-emacs is different now than before. Before I investigate further, two simple solutions leap to mind. One is just to suppress the errors probably in "titdic-cnv.el". The other would be just to stop generating CTLau.el and tstang-b5.el. Neither of the files from which they are generated have been materially changed in since 2001, and CTLau.html apparently does not exist any more in its source location. Deleting them, and adding CTLau.el as source would solve the problem and remove a step from the build. Thoughts? Phil From unknown Mon Jun 23 00:36:20 2025 X-Loop: help-debbugs@gnu.org Subject: bug#25360: File mode specification errors during building Resent-From: Eli Zaretskii Original-Sender: "Debbugs-submit" Resent-CC: bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org Resent-Date: Tue, 10 Jan 2017 15:14:01 +0000 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-Sender: help-debbugs@gnu.org X-GNU-PR-Message: followup 25360 X-GNU-PR-Package: emacs X-GNU-PR-Keywords: To: phillip.lord@russet.org.uk (Phillip Lord) Cc: rgm@gnu.org, 25360@debbugs.gnu.org Reply-To: Eli Zaretskii Received: via spool by 25360-submit@debbugs.gnu.org id=B25360.148406122615703 (code B ref 25360); Tue, 10 Jan 2017 15:14:01 +0000 Received: (at 25360) by debbugs.gnu.org; 10 Jan 2017 15:13:46 +0000 Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:49048 helo=debbugs.gnu.org) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1cQy7N-00045D-Ov for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Tue, 10 Jan 2017 10:13:45 -0500 Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([208.118.235.92]:45695) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1cQy7L-00044z-V9 for 25360@debbugs.gnu.org; Tue, 10 Jan 2017 10:13:44 -0500 Received: from Debian-exim by eggs.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1cQy7C-0007vY-4q for 25360@debbugs.gnu.org; Tue, 10 Jan 2017 10:13:38 -0500 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.3.2 (2011-06-06) on eggs.gnu.org X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-2.4 required=5.0 tests=BAYES_50,RP_MATCHES_RCVD autolearn=disabled version=3.3.2 Received: from fencepost.gnu.org ([2001:4830:134:3::e]:60571) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1cQy7C-0007vT-1e; Tue, 10 Jan 2017 10:13:34 -0500 Received: from 84.94.185.246.cable.012.net.il ([84.94.185.246]:2122 helo=home-c4e4a596f7) by fencepost.gnu.org with esmtpsa (TLS1.2:RSA_AES_256_CBC_SHA1:256) (Exim 4.82) (envelope-from ) id 1cQy7B-0006OA-2W; Tue, 10 Jan 2017 10:13:33 -0500 Date: Tue, 10 Jan 2017 17:13:32 +0200 Message-Id: <83bmvfdk2r.fsf@gnu.org> From: Eli Zaretskii In-reply-to: <8760lndxlz.fsf@russet.org.uk> (phillip.lord@russet.org.uk) References: <8760lndxlz.fsf@russet.org.uk> X-detected-operating-system: by eggs.gnu.org: GNU/Linux 2.2.x-3.x [generic] X-Received-From: 2001:4830:134:3::e X-Spam-Score: -8.2 (--------) X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18 Precedence: list List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Sender: "Debbugs-submit" X-Spam-Score: -8.2 (--------) > From: phillip.lord@russet.org.uk (Phillip Lord) > Date: Tue, 10 Jan 2017 10:21:12 +0000 > Cc: 25360@debbugs.gnu.org > > I do not quite understand why this is not working -- loaddefs.el has > been generated at this point. I still do not fully understand what is > happening during the dumping process, though, so I guess bootstrap-emacs > is different now than before. Can you describe what you did understand from looking into this issue? E.g., which code emits the error and why? > Before I investigate further, two simple solutions leap to mind. One is > just to suppress the errors probably in "titdic-cnv.el". > > The other would be just to stop generating CTLau.el and > tstang-b5.el. Neither of the files from which they are generated have > been materially changed in since 2001, and CTLau.html apparently does > not exist any more in its source location. Deleting them, and adding > CTLau.el as source would solve the problem and remove a step from the > build. > > Thoughts? I think we should try to understand the problem before we consider solutions. In particular, the same problem could be at work in other places, just without such a spectacular indications. Thanks. From unknown Mon Jun 23 00:36:20 2025 X-Loop: help-debbugs@gnu.org Subject: bug#25360: File mode specification errors during building Resent-From: Glenn Morris Original-Sender: "Debbugs-submit" Resent-CC: bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org Resent-Date: Tue, 10 Jan 2017 17:49:01 +0000 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-Sender: help-debbugs@gnu.org X-GNU-PR-Message: followup 25360 X-GNU-PR-Package: emacs X-GNU-PR-Keywords: To: phillip.lord@russet.org.uk (Phillip Lord) Cc: 25360@debbugs.gnu.org Received: via spool by 25360-submit@debbugs.gnu.org id=B25360.148407053730990 (code B ref 25360); Tue, 10 Jan 2017 17:49:01 +0000 Received: (at 25360) by debbugs.gnu.org; 10 Jan 2017 17:48:57 +0000 Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:49094 helo=debbugs.gnu.org) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1cR0XZ-00083m-HZ for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Tue, 10 Jan 2017 12:48:57 -0500 Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([208.118.235.92]:56512) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1cR0XY-00083a-BR for 25360@debbugs.gnu.org; Tue, 10 Jan 2017 12:48:56 -0500 Received: from Debian-exim by eggs.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1cR0XS-0007yt-DR for 25360@debbugs.gnu.org; Tue, 10 Jan 2017 12:48:51 -0500 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.3.2 (2011-06-06) on eggs.gnu.org X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-3.2 required=5.0 tests=BAYES_20,RP_MATCHES_RCVD autolearn=disabled version=3.3.2 Received: from fencepost.gnu.org ([2001:4830:134:3::e]:34765) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1cR0Wa-0007ZN-VW; Tue, 10 Jan 2017 12:47:56 -0500 Received: from rgm by fencepost.gnu.org with local (Exim 4.82) (envelope-from ) id 1cR0WZ-0003p8-5A; Tue, 10 Jan 2017 12:47:55 -0500 From: Glenn Morris References: <8760lndxlz.fsf@russet.org.uk> X-Spook: Sinaloa Immigration Customs Enforcement Nuclear threat X-Ran: TW0'xj[]EXbnY:dPQ=bkUOA8=RR`!]6Dv_o|jD95/qKNFk^)"-z`EI%aZ"`H2w^CTB8eI0 X-Hue: red X-Attribution: GM Date: Tue, 10 Jan 2017 12:47:54 -0500 In-Reply-To: <8760lndxlz.fsf@russet.org.uk> (Phillip Lord's message of "Tue, 10 Jan 2017 10:21:12 +0000") Message-ID: <7bpojuajsl.fsf@fencepost.gnu.org> User-Agent: Gnus (www.gnus.org), GNU Emacs (www.gnu.org/software/emacs/) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain X-detected-operating-system: by eggs.gnu.org: GNU/Linux 2.2.x-3.x [generic] X-Received-From: 2001:4830:134:3::e X-Spam-Score: -8.2 (--------) X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18 Precedence: list List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Sender: "Debbugs-submit" X-Spam-Score: -8.2 (--------) Phillip Lord wrote: > The other would be just to stop generating CTLau.el and > tstang-b5.el. Neither of the files from which they are generated have > been materially changed in since 2001, and CTLau.html apparently does > not exist any more in its source location. Deleting them, and adding > CTLau.el as source would solve the problem and remove a step from the > build. For legal reasons, we need to distribute the "real" source. (It also seems odd if the solution to a problem caused by removing a generated file from the repository is... to add generated files to the repository.) From unknown Mon Jun 23 00:36:20 2025 X-Loop: help-debbugs@gnu.org Subject: bug#25360: File mode specification errors during building Resent-From: phillip.lord@russet.org.uk (Phillip Lord) Original-Sender: "Debbugs-submit" Resent-CC: bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org Resent-Date: Tue, 10 Jan 2017 18:41:02 +0000 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-Sender: help-debbugs@gnu.org X-GNU-PR-Message: followup 25360 X-GNU-PR-Package: emacs X-GNU-PR-Keywords: To: Eli Zaretskii Cc: rgm@gnu.org, 25360@debbugs.gnu.org Received: via spool by 25360-submit@debbugs.gnu.org id=B25360.148407364216931 (code B ref 25360); Tue, 10 Jan 2017 18:41:02 +0000 Received: (at 25360) by debbugs.gnu.org; 10 Jan 2017 18:40:42 +0000 Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:49134 helo=debbugs.gnu.org) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1cR1Ld-0004P0-DJ for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Tue, 10 Jan 2017 13:40:42 -0500 Received: from mailgw.mycpanelcloud.co.uk ([185.116.214.205]:44099) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1cR1La-0004Ok-1K for 25360@debbugs.gnu.org; Tue, 10 Jan 2017 13:40:38 -0500 Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mailgw.mycpanelcloud.co.uk (Postfix) with ESMTP id C5BE3C4E9D for <25360@debbugs.gnu.org>; Tue, 10 Jan 2017 18:40:09 +0000 (GMT) X-Virus-Scanned: by SpamTitan at mycpanelcloud.co.uk Received: from mailgw.mycpanelcloud.co.uk (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mailgw.mycpanelcloud.co.uk (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2063CC4CF9 for <25360@debbugs.gnu.org>; Tue, 10 Jan 2017 18:40:07 +0000 (GMT) Received: from cloud103.planethippo.com (cloud103.planethippo.com [31.216.48.48]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES256-GCM-SHA384 (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by mailgw.mycpanelcloud.co.uk (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 18918C4CB0 for <25360@debbugs.gnu.org>; Tue, 10 Jan 2017 18:40:07 +0000 (GMT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; q=dns/txt; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=russet.org.uk; s=default; h=Content-Type:MIME-Version:Message-ID: In-Reply-To:Date:References:Subject:Cc:To:From:Sender:Reply-To: Content-Transfer-Encoding:Content-ID:Content-Description:Resent-Date: Resent-From:Resent-Sender:Resent-To:Resent-Cc:Resent-Message-ID:List-Id: List-Help:List-Unsubscribe:List-Subscribe:List-Post:List-Owner:List-Archive; bh=utuWh8MOVMWLRPPRiVYUUUyE+v3uGzmyTzT0L4PfG08=; b=D+LLqk5090E2fnm1wa+BLCRI5 le3qu8TxUT6dFOtd/8MT2SxEBGu7nlbZLeA+H+5oKyJu3NNAEH2p1NHy5gkGBNrvH2nm2oCd9YYDi Szlj3HkMLmLTwqQjLp+dMGN4XIAL1fg1qTzR+DUp7Qma9v9IuSRREKeP5E1xt2pOdbqGptoBjo/Kv wNHTXqLGRp6rgE6hP0xrVp+aIEHeftrrQ11PjEMjEzECSJB8hTZXC5pO+M3XuZjfZbn2fMu5uzUx4 baBzJb8CSsgk1XR6EGeau5PuBAv1ecdYhwBJiN3S88P3yWdms4elwvbc4JO5I9CCQmmVYfUu9o1wN 7ksbikqMg==; Received: from janus-nat-128-240-225-37.ncl.ac.uk ([128.240.225.37]:34820 helo=russet.org.uk) by cloud103.planethippo.com with esmtpsa (TLSv1.2:ECDHE-RSA-AES128-GCM-SHA256:128) (Exim 4.87) (envelope-from ) id 1cR1LR-001Bs2-4q; Tue, 10 Jan 2017 18:40:29 +0000 From: phillip.lord@russet.org.uk (Phillip Lord) References: <8760lndxlz.fsf@russet.org.uk> <83bmvfdk2r.fsf@gnu.org> Date: Tue, 10 Jan 2017 18:40:28 +0000 In-Reply-To: <83bmvfdk2r.fsf@gnu.org> (Eli Zaretskii's message of "Tue, 10 Jan 2017 17:13:32 +0200") Message-ID: <8737gqsqqr.fsf@russet.org.uk> User-Agent: Gnus/5.13 (Gnus v5.13) Emacs/25.1.91 (gnu/linux) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain X-AntiAbuse: This header was added to track abuse, please include it with any abuse report X-AntiAbuse: Primary Hostname - cloud103.planethippo.com X-AntiAbuse: Original Domain - debbugs.gnu.org X-AntiAbuse: Originator/Caller UID/GID - [47 12] / [47 12] X-AntiAbuse: Sender Address Domain - russet.org.uk X-Get-Message-Sender-Via: cloud103.planethippo.com: authenticated_id: phillip.lord@russet.org.uk X-Authenticated-Sender: cloud103.planethippo.com: phillip.lord@russet.org.uk X-Spam-Score: 0.0 (/) X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18 Precedence: list List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Sender: "Debbugs-submit" X-Spam-Score: 0.0 (/) Eli Zaretskii writes: >> From: phillip.lord@russet.org.uk (Phillip Lord) >> Date: Tue, 10 Jan 2017 10:21:12 +0000 >> Cc: 25360@debbugs.gnu.org >> >> I do not quite understand why this is not working -- loaddefs.el has >> been generated at this point. I still do not fully understand what is >> happening during the dumping process, though, so I guess bootstrap-emacs >> is different now than before. > > Can you describe what you did understand from looking into this issue? > E.g., which code emits the error and why? One error is caused when bootstrap-emacs loads CTLau.html, when it's running this code in leim. misc_convert = $(AM_V_GEN)${RUN_EMACS} \ -l titdic-cnv -f batch-miscdic-convert -dir ${leimdir}/quail ## CTLau.el, CTLau-b5.el. ${leimdir}/quail/CT%.el: ${srcdir}/MISC-DIC/CT%.html ${misc_convert} $< As far as I can tell it is happening because emacs tries to put CTLau.html into html-mode. AFAICT, batch-miscdic-convert uses no features of html-mode. I've seen this sort of thing before; the deep problem is that bootstrap-emacs obeys things like auto-mode-alist and .dir-locals.el, when it probably doesn't really need to. >> Before I investigate further, two simple solutions leap to mind. One is >> just to suppress the errors probably in "titdic-cnv.el". >> >> The other would be just to stop generating CTLau.el and >> tstang-b5.el. Neither of the files from which they are generated have >> been materially changed in since 2001, and CTLau.html apparently does >> not exist any more in its source location. Deleting them, and adding >> CTLau.el as source would solve the problem and remove a step from the >> build. >> >> Thoughts? > > I think we should try to understand the problem before we consider > solutions. In particular, the same problem could be at work in other > places, just without such a spectacular indications. True enough. Although, we don't have the problem anywhere else. Shortly after this, emacs dumps fully, then the first version of bootstrap-emacs is replaced with the fully dumped emacs. These errors will occur only during a full bootstrap build I think. Still, I'll plug at it a little more. Phil From unknown Mon Jun 23 00:36:20 2025 X-Loop: help-debbugs@gnu.org Subject: bug#25360: File mode specification errors during building Resent-From: Eli Zaretskii Original-Sender: "Debbugs-submit" Resent-CC: bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org Resent-Date: Tue, 10 Jan 2017 18:49:02 +0000 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-Sender: help-debbugs@gnu.org X-GNU-PR-Message: followup 25360 X-GNU-PR-Package: emacs X-GNU-PR-Keywords: To: phillip.lord@russet.org.uk (Phillip Lord) Cc: rgm@gnu.org, 25360@debbugs.gnu.org Reply-To: Eli Zaretskii Received: via spool by 25360-submit@debbugs.gnu.org id=B25360.148407414017815 (code B ref 25360); Tue, 10 Jan 2017 18:49:02 +0000 Received: (at 25360) by debbugs.gnu.org; 10 Jan 2017 18:49:00 +0000 Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:49138 helo=debbugs.gnu.org) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1cR1Tg-0004dH-Gs for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Tue, 10 Jan 2017 13:49:00 -0500 Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([208.118.235.92]:54693) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1cR1Tf-0004d6-JW for 25360@debbugs.gnu.org; Tue, 10 Jan 2017 13:48:59 -0500 Received: from Debian-exim by eggs.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1cR1TW-0004fB-Fz for 25360@debbugs.gnu.org; Tue, 10 Jan 2017 13:48:54 -0500 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.3.2 (2011-06-06) on eggs.gnu.org X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-2.4 required=5.0 tests=BAYES_50,RP_MATCHES_RCVD autolearn=disabled version=3.3.2 Received: from fencepost.gnu.org ([2001:4830:134:3::e]:36576) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1cR1TW-0004f7-Cl; Tue, 10 Jan 2017 13:48:50 -0500 Received: from 84.94.185.246.cable.012.net.il ([84.94.185.246]:2483 helo=home-c4e4a596f7) by fencepost.gnu.org with esmtpsa (TLS1.2:RSA_AES_256_CBC_SHA1:256) (Exim 4.82) (envelope-from ) id 1cR1TT-0007zJ-AU; Tue, 10 Jan 2017 13:48:49 -0500 Date: Tue, 10 Jan 2017 20:48:13 +0200 Message-Id: <83ziiyda4y.fsf@gnu.org> From: Eli Zaretskii In-reply-to: <8737gqsqqr.fsf@russet.org.uk> (phillip.lord@russet.org.uk) References: <8760lndxlz.fsf@russet.org.uk> <83bmvfdk2r.fsf@gnu.org> <8737gqsqqr.fsf@russet.org.uk> X-detected-operating-system: by eggs.gnu.org: GNU/Linux 2.2.x-3.x [generic] X-Received-From: 2001:4830:134:3::e X-Spam-Score: -8.2 (--------) X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18 Precedence: list List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Sender: "Debbugs-submit" X-Spam-Score: -8.2 (--------) > From: phillip.lord@russet.org.uk (Phillip Lord) > Cc: rgm@gnu.org, 25360@debbugs.gnu.org > Date: Tue, 10 Jan 2017 18:40:28 +0000 > > One error is caused when bootstrap-emacs loads CTLau.html, when it's > running this code in leim. > > misc_convert = $(AM_V_GEN)${RUN_EMACS} \ > -l titdic-cnv -f batch-miscdic-convert -dir ${leimdir}/quail > > ## CTLau.el, CTLau-b5.el. > ${leimdir}/quail/CT%.el: ${srcdir}/MISC-DIC/CT%.html > ${misc_convert} $< > > As far as I can tell it is happening because emacs tries to put > CTLau.html into html-mode. AFAICT, batch-miscdic-convert uses no > features of html-mode. Ok, and how does image-type-auto-detected-p enter this picture? > Still, I'll plug at it a little more. Thanks. From unknown Mon Jun 23 00:36:20 2025 X-Loop: help-debbugs@gnu.org Subject: bug#25360: File mode specification errors during building Resent-From: phillip.lord@russet.org.uk (Phillip Lord) Original-Sender: "Debbugs-submit" Resent-CC: bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org Resent-Date: Tue, 10 Jan 2017 18:51:01 +0000 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-Sender: help-debbugs@gnu.org X-GNU-PR-Message: followup 25360 X-GNU-PR-Package: emacs X-GNU-PR-Keywords: To: Glenn Morris Cc: 25360@debbugs.gnu.org Received: via spool by 25360-submit@debbugs.gnu.org id=B25360.148407424918033 (code B ref 25360); Tue, 10 Jan 2017 18:51:01 +0000 Received: (at 25360) by debbugs.gnu.org; 10 Jan 2017 18:50:49 +0000 Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:49143 helo=debbugs.gnu.org) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1cR1VQ-0004gm-Tt for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Tue, 10 Jan 2017 13:50:49 -0500 Received: from mailgw.mycpanelcloud.co.uk ([185.116.214.125]:34525) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1cR1VP-0004gf-Dn for 25360@debbugs.gnu.org; Tue, 10 Jan 2017 13:50:47 -0500 Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mailgw.mycpanelcloud.co.uk (Postfix) with ESMTP id 70BBFC4FAD for <25360@debbugs.gnu.org>; Tue, 10 Jan 2017 18:50:24 +0000 (GMT) X-Virus-Scanned: by SpamTitan at mycpanelcloud.co.uk Received: from mailgw.mycpanelcloud.co.uk (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mailgw.mycpanelcloud.co.uk (Postfix) with ESMTP id BE4BDC4FC1 for <25360@debbugs.gnu.org>; Tue, 10 Jan 2017 18:50:23 +0000 (GMT) Received: from cloud103.planethippo.com (cloud103.planethippo.com [31.216.48.48]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES256-GCM-SHA384 (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by mailgw.mycpanelcloud.co.uk (Postfix) with ESMTPS id B6A1AC4EA8 for <25360@debbugs.gnu.org>; Tue, 10 Jan 2017 18:50:23 +0000 (GMT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; q=dns/txt; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=russet.org.uk; s=default; h=Content-Type:MIME-Version:Message-ID: In-Reply-To:Date:References:Subject:Cc:To:From:Sender:Reply-To: Content-Transfer-Encoding:Content-ID:Content-Description:Resent-Date: Resent-From:Resent-Sender:Resent-To:Resent-Cc:Resent-Message-ID:List-Id: List-Help:List-Unsubscribe:List-Subscribe:List-Post:List-Owner:List-Archive; bh=zS2IbV1YEb4iKeejdab7eLPILeixpDmOA4IL6SCrAlo=; b=Z0o5Wjl3BCPaLTE6jrV6znTHG npM5Q3h9OkbHdsDx0ZL6b+LzbBQkexPPeFwvLpHpQ0NCPttqqWQSFmcSPfCS4uGeMtike7Ruqo9NA sXXD9NeC+WNVvrdmH1N7J8N5lCA6MULFNjOBG8fdyBTuTwMIaCcbTva7xqv7/Vsm4w7f2QoTIfZIm HQQc8AqX+CtPNLbtKpchrBDc6cbHuS8VYE0Kmm8jz/+HVMaZgdEkym/SyUihBt2AvziorXITv1jUJ aSqQ9ToG0KtBBtHaodahge42JdbaiBZiE6RPdzUVLXCFZn0AjAbc7mkMpRlv7Xwfp2sD2aRYz0cRs mkFViBMUA==; Received: from janus-nat-128-240-225-37.ncl.ac.uk ([128.240.225.37]:34306 helo=russet.org.uk) by cloud103.planethippo.com with esmtpsa (TLSv1.2:ECDHE-RSA-AES128-GCM-SHA256:128) (Exim 4.87) (envelope-from ) id 1cR1VN-001E7W-RB; Tue, 10 Jan 2017 18:50:45 +0000 From: phillip.lord@russet.org.uk (Phillip Lord) References: <8760lndxlz.fsf@russet.org.uk> <7bpojuajsl.fsf@fencepost.gnu.org> Date: Tue, 10 Jan 2017 18:50:45 +0000 In-Reply-To: <7bpojuajsl.fsf@fencepost.gnu.org> (Glenn Morris's message of "Tue, 10 Jan 2017 12:47:54 -0500") Message-ID: <871swasq9m.fsf@russet.org.uk> User-Agent: Gnus/5.13 (Gnus v5.13) Emacs/25.1.91 (gnu/linux) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain X-AntiAbuse: This header was added to track abuse, please include it with any abuse report X-AntiAbuse: Primary Hostname - cloud103.planethippo.com X-AntiAbuse: Original Domain - debbugs.gnu.org X-AntiAbuse: Originator/Caller UID/GID - [47 12] / [47 12] X-AntiAbuse: Sender Address Domain - russet.org.uk X-Get-Message-Sender-Via: cloud103.planethippo.com: authenticated_id: phillip.lord@russet.org.uk X-Authenticated-Sender: cloud103.planethippo.com: phillip.lord@russet.org.uk X-Spam-Score: 0.0 (/) X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18 Precedence: list List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Sender: "Debbugs-submit" X-Spam-Score: 0.0 (/) Glenn Morris writes: > Phillip Lord wrote: > >> The other would be just to stop generating CTLau.el and >> tstang-b5.el. Neither of the files from which they are generated have >> been materially changed in since 2001, and CTLau.html apparently does >> not exist any more in its source location. Deleting them, and adding >> CTLau.el as source would solve the problem and remove a step from the >> build. > > For legal reasons, we need to distribute the "real" source. That's true, but not relevant in this case. The source is just the preferred form for editing or updatable. Given that CTLau.html is no longer being distributed from it's original source and is not, therefore, updatable from that source, either form would work for editing. > (It also seems odd if the solution to a problem caused by removing a > generated file from the repository is... to add generated files to > the repository.) No, that's not what I am suggesting. There is no point generating a file from a source file if the source file never changes (it hasn't done for 15 years) and if the generated file is always the same. It seems worth doing independent of this bug. Still, it's an independent issue, I shall see if I can figure the source of the problem otherwise. Phil From unknown Mon Jun 23 00:36:20 2025 X-Loop: help-debbugs@gnu.org Subject: bug#25360: File mode specification errors during building Resent-From: Richard Stallman Original-Sender: "Debbugs-submit" Resent-CC: bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org Resent-Date: Wed, 11 Jan 2017 16:38:02 +0000 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-Sender: help-debbugs@gnu.org X-GNU-PR-Message: followup 25360 X-GNU-PR-Package: emacs X-GNU-PR-Keywords: To: Glenn Morris Cc: 25360@debbugs.gnu.org, phillip.lord@russet.org.uk Reply-To: rms@gnu.org Received: via spool by 25360-submit@debbugs.gnu.org id=B25360.148415266428021 (code B ref 25360); Wed, 11 Jan 2017 16:38:02 +0000 Received: (at 25360) by debbugs.gnu.org; 11 Jan 2017 16:37:44 +0000 Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:50078 helo=debbugs.gnu.org) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1cRLuC-0007Ht-1h for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Wed, 11 Jan 2017 11:37:44 -0500 Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([208.118.235.92]:56041) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1cRLu9-0007Hf-RD for 25360@debbugs.gnu.org; Wed, 11 Jan 2017 11:37:42 -0500 Received: from Debian-exim by eggs.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1cRLu3-0000V3-TD for 25360@debbugs.gnu.org; Wed, 11 Jan 2017 11:37:36 -0500 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.3.2 (2011-06-06) on eggs.gnu.org X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-5.1 required=5.0 tests=BAYES_00,RP_MATCHES_RCVD autolearn=disabled version=3.3.2 Received: from fencepost.gnu.org ([2001:4830:134:3::e]:52876) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1cRLtF-0007qL-Tq; Wed, 11 Jan 2017 11:36:45 -0500 Received: from rms by fencepost.gnu.org with local (Exim 4.82) (envelope-from ) id 1cRLtE-00036G-4i; Wed, 11 Jan 2017 11:36:44 -0500 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=Utf-8 From: Richard Stallman In-reply-to: <7bpojuajsl.fsf@fencepost.gnu.org> (message from Glenn Morris on Tue, 10 Jan 2017 12:47:54 -0500) References: <8760lndxlz.fsf@russet.org.uk> <7bpojuajsl.fsf@fencepost.gnu.org> Message-Id: Date: Wed, 11 Jan 2017 11:36:44 -0500 X-detected-operating-system: by eggs.gnu.org: GNU/Linux 2.2.x-3.x [generic] X-Received-From: 2001:4830:134:3::e X-Spam-Score: -8.2 (--------) X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18 Precedence: list List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Sender: "Debbugs-submit" X-Spam-Score: -8.2 (--------) [[[ To any NSA and FBI agents reading my email: please consider ]]] [[[ whether defending the US Constitution against all enemies, ]]] [[[ foreign or domestic, requires you to follow Snowden's example. ]]] > For legal reasons, we need to distribute the "real" source. More than that, it is essential for _moral_ reasons. A nonfree program is an injustice. -- Dr Richard Stallman President, Free Software Foundation (gnu.org, fsf.org) Internet Hall-of-Famer (internethalloffame.org) Skype: No way! See stallman.org/skype.html. From unknown Mon Jun 23 00:36:20 2025 X-Loop: help-debbugs@gnu.org Subject: bug#25360: File mode specification errors during building Resent-From: phillip.lord@russet.org.uk (Phillip Lord) Original-Sender: "Debbugs-submit" Resent-CC: bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org Resent-Date: Fri, 13 Jan 2017 14:06:01 +0000 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-Sender: help-debbugs@gnu.org X-GNU-PR-Message: followup 25360 X-GNU-PR-Package: emacs X-GNU-PR-Keywords: To: Richard Stallman Cc: Glenn Morris , 25360@debbugs.gnu.org Received: via spool by 25360-submit@debbugs.gnu.org id=B25360.148431635915780 (code B ref 25360); Fri, 13 Jan 2017 14:06:01 +0000 Received: (at 25360) by debbugs.gnu.org; 13 Jan 2017 14:05:59 +0000 Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:52179 helo=debbugs.gnu.org) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1cS2UP-00046P-TL for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Fri, 13 Jan 2017 09:05:58 -0500 Received: from mailgw.mycpanelcloud.co.uk ([185.116.214.213]:56292) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1cS2UN-00046C-Qv for 25360@debbugs.gnu.org; Fri, 13 Jan 2017 09:05:56 -0500 Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mailgw.mycpanelcloud.co.uk (Postfix) with ESMTP id 40A60C4D7B for <25360@debbugs.gnu.org>; Fri, 13 Jan 2017 14:05:27 +0000 (GMT) X-Virus-Scanned: by SpamTitan at mycpanelcloud.co.uk Received: from mailgw.mycpanelcloud.co.uk (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mailgw.mycpanelcloud.co.uk (Postfix) with ESMTP id AF109C4EA1 for <25360@debbugs.gnu.org>; Fri, 13 Jan 2017 14:05:25 +0000 (GMT) Received: from cloud103.planethippo.com (cloud103.planethippo.com [31.216.48.48]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES256-GCM-SHA384 (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by mailgw.mycpanelcloud.co.uk (Postfix) with ESMTPS id A4302C4E8F for <25360@debbugs.gnu.org>; Fri, 13 Jan 2017 14:05:25 +0000 (GMT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; q=dns/txt; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=russet.org.uk; s=default; h=Content-Type:MIME-Version:Message-ID: In-Reply-To:Date:References:Subject:Cc:To:From:Sender:Reply-To: Content-Transfer-Encoding:Content-ID:Content-Description:Resent-Date: Resent-From:Resent-Sender:Resent-To:Resent-Cc:Resent-Message-ID:List-Id: List-Help:List-Unsubscribe:List-Subscribe:List-Post:List-Owner:List-Archive; bh=dM/kxyXk4kyFvWD9OYPNZ1tSWEMx0XhcPvqJ1RBFaGk=; b=WIEZoQ9bsCip0qSB15aEWIpqd raMDdkS4mMWY60VGQUFmV7t+bM51NnVDYhzJUpw0sqIHemh6rkrJOGxlMEzG/B8ASgqflFpaieKY/ fudOQOKMRsHGIFGVJqNvA/I4DLQQ+y6hhvZl9lA8jc+V07ZKbcEWIexDHQRsiNF6ZIJbbHuwtIp5T ezxLfxh0hB/Mo85v6CBIYdzAJkUUc36Tyx3tdIa6qAv+Ty0H6DrOoAy+RykprFtca405ZPPJ+0E7z ug57VDtaJpsY+dN/+1qMZH7aj1OOJl1QS8Bwmxfn8jK9CcQK0iGkaS1EjVRJ2Jlp+OC2Ip0IJeBCd 1i6qSfxRA==; Received: from janus-nat-128-240-225-37.ncl.ac.uk ([128.240.225.37]:42013 helo=russet.org.uk) by cloud103.planethippo.com with esmtpsa (TLSv1.2:ECDHE-RSA-AES128-GCM-SHA256:128) (Exim 4.87) (envelope-from ) id 1cS2UF-003s1M-UP; Fri, 13 Jan 2017 14:05:48 +0000 From: phillip.lord@russet.org.uk (Phillip Lord) References: <8760lndxlz.fsf@russet.org.uk> <7bpojuajsl.fsf@fencepost.gnu.org> Date: Fri, 13 Jan 2017 14:05:45 +0000 In-Reply-To: (Richard Stallman's message of "Wed, 11 Jan 2017 11:36:44 -0500") Message-ID: <87mvev12di.fsf@russet.org.uk> User-Agent: Gnus/5.13 (Gnus v5.13) Emacs/25.1.91 (gnu/linux) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain X-AntiAbuse: This header was added to track abuse, please include it with any abuse report X-AntiAbuse: Primary Hostname - cloud103.planethippo.com X-AntiAbuse: Original Domain - debbugs.gnu.org X-AntiAbuse: Originator/Caller UID/GID - [47 12] / [47 12] X-AntiAbuse: Sender Address Domain - russet.org.uk X-Get-Message-Sender-Via: cloud103.planethippo.com: authenticated_id: phillip.lord@russet.org.uk X-Authenticated-Sender: cloud103.planethippo.com: phillip.lord@russet.org.uk X-Spam-Score: 0.0 (/) X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18 Precedence: list List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Sender: "Debbugs-submit" X-Spam-Score: 0.0 (/) Richard Stallman writes: > [[[ To any NSA and FBI agents reading my email: please consider ]]] > [[[ whether defending the US Constitution against all enemies, ]]] > [[[ foreign or domestic, requires you to follow Snowden's example. ]]] > > > For legal reasons, we need to distribute the "real" source. > > More than that, it is essential for _moral_ reasons. A nonfree > program is an injustice. Also true, but not relevant in this case. I was suggesting changing the "preferred form for making modifications" from one file (CTLau.html), to another (CTLau.el). The latter is currently generated, but would become source. There is no legal nor moral reason to stop us from doing this. It's a practical question of whether CTLau.html or CTLau.el is easier to maintain. Anyway, this is probably off-topic for this bug -- I shall open the suggestion as a new bug. Phil From unknown Mon Jun 23 00:36:20 2025 X-Loop: help-debbugs@gnu.org Subject: bug#25360: File mode specification errors during building Resent-From: phillip.lord@russet.org.uk (Phillip Lord) Original-Sender: "Debbugs-submit" Resent-CC: bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org Resent-Date: Fri, 13 Jan 2017 14:10:02 +0000 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-Sender: help-debbugs@gnu.org X-GNU-PR-Message: followup 25360 X-GNU-PR-Package: emacs X-GNU-PR-Keywords: To: Eli Zaretskii Cc: rgm@gnu.org, 25360@debbugs.gnu.org Received: via spool by 25360-submit@debbugs.gnu.org id=B25360.148431654516099 (code B ref 25360); Fri, 13 Jan 2017 14:10:02 +0000 Received: (at 25360) by debbugs.gnu.org; 13 Jan 2017 14:09:05 +0000 Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:52184 helo=debbugs.gnu.org) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1cS2XR-0004Bb-5X for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Fri, 13 Jan 2017 09:09:05 -0500 Received: from mailgw.mycpanelcloud.co.uk ([185.116.214.205]:37922) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1cS2XP-0004B7-PF for 25360@debbugs.gnu.org; Fri, 13 Jan 2017 09:09:04 -0500 Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mailgw.mycpanelcloud.co.uk (Postfix) with ESMTP id C38D1C4F9F for <25360@debbugs.gnu.org>; Fri, 13 Jan 2017 14:08:35 +0000 (GMT) X-Virus-Scanned: by SpamTitan at mycpanelcloud.co.uk Received: from mailgw.mycpanelcloud.co.uk (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mailgw.mycpanelcloud.co.uk (Postfix) with ESMTP id DF0A1C4FAC for <25360@debbugs.gnu.org>; Fri, 13 Jan 2017 14:08:33 +0000 (GMT) Received: from cloud103.planethippo.com (cloud103.planethippo.com [31.216.48.48]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES256-GCM-SHA384 (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by mailgw.mycpanelcloud.co.uk (Postfix) with ESMTPS id D259AC4FA4 for <25360@debbugs.gnu.org>; Fri, 13 Jan 2017 14:08:33 +0000 (GMT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; q=dns/txt; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=russet.org.uk; s=default; h=Content-Type:MIME-Version:Message-ID: In-Reply-To:Date:References:Subject:Cc:To:From:Sender:Reply-To: Content-Transfer-Encoding:Content-ID:Content-Description:Resent-Date: Resent-From:Resent-Sender:Resent-To:Resent-Cc:Resent-Message-ID:List-Id: List-Help:List-Unsubscribe:List-Subscribe:List-Post:List-Owner:List-Archive; bh=AdcTDYBTF8Ikj6p1tNCcx/K9rWgD4aYsNJRUB80wXu4=; b=1uAHxMr0DLpRxWgNqzXvAOjkE i9892nmb94l9jIqY8U0XU8YOd7TlXxRzueU6w9yjEbflhq5wLG7Xth+6GVwE+ExZ2sARmevw0GrWv h8VZtiSy0Ln1XP429iAi17YhxGjGXTfAmEpsI6u4qV6xsb9IYK+M3LWh0iYpAKN3uckstt2yqeusZ F7jEJOYuOKpFqNMjIQvwUMxHRAQeRAyw6/9EikZZ2o+A2Kh2NLU7D8QHij6NSDkfAmK9/js9PD2GU uxVqafVJsNd14wy8qp4jCoJVz8sR3vagoe6CNm4XrZviDPJcZ6sDqXLeKytsDlt7TxuZ3gE7LL/2q pMV3Ii3kQ==; Received: from janus-nat-128-240-225-37.ncl.ac.uk ([128.240.225.37]:61453 helo=russet.org.uk) by cloud103.planethippo.com with esmtpsa (TLSv1.2:ECDHE-RSA-AES128-GCM-SHA256:128) (Exim 4.87) (envelope-from ) id 1cS2XI-003t1Z-22; Fri, 13 Jan 2017 14:08:56 +0000 From: phillip.lord@russet.org.uk (Phillip Lord) References: <8760lndxlz.fsf@russet.org.uk> <83bmvfdk2r.fsf@gnu.org> <8737gqsqqr.fsf@russet.org.uk> <83ziiyda4y.fsf@gnu.org> Date: Fri, 13 Jan 2017 14:08:55 +0000 In-Reply-To: <83ziiyda4y.fsf@gnu.org> (Eli Zaretskii's message of "Tue, 10 Jan 2017 20:48:13 +0200") Message-ID: <87inpj1288.fsf@russet.org.uk> User-Agent: Gnus/5.13 (Gnus v5.13) Emacs/25.1.91 (gnu/linux) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="=-=-=" X-AntiAbuse: This header was added to track abuse, please include it with any abuse report X-AntiAbuse: Primary Hostname - cloud103.planethippo.com X-AntiAbuse: Original Domain - debbugs.gnu.org X-AntiAbuse: Originator/Caller UID/GID - [47 12] / [47 12] X-AntiAbuse: Sender Address Domain - russet.org.uk X-Get-Message-Sender-Via: cloud103.planethippo.com: authenticated_id: phillip.lord@russet.org.uk X-Authenticated-Sender: cloud103.planethippo.com: phillip.lord@russet.org.uk X-Spam-Score: 0.0 (/) X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18 Precedence: list List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Sender: "Debbugs-submit" X-Spam-Score: 0.0 (/) --=-=-= Content-Type: text/plain Eli Zaretskii writes: >> From: phillip.lord@russet.org.uk (Phillip Lord) >> Cc: rgm@gnu.org, 25360@debbugs.gnu.org >> Date: Tue, 10 Jan 2017 18:40:28 +0000 >> >> One error is caused when bootstrap-emacs loads CTLau.html, when it's >> running this code in leim. >> >> misc_convert = $(AM_V_GEN)${RUN_EMACS} \ >> -l titdic-cnv -f batch-miscdic-convert -dir ${leimdir}/quail >> >> ## CTLau.el, CTLau-b5.el. >> ${leimdir}/quail/CT%.el: ${srcdir}/MISC-DIC/CT%.html >> ${misc_convert} $< >> >> As far as I can tell it is happening because emacs tries to put >> CTLau.html into html-mode. AFAICT, batch-miscdic-convert uses no >> features of html-mode. > > Ok, and how does image-type-auto-detected-p enter this picture? > >> Still, I'll plug at it a little more. > > Thanks. So, the cause of the problem is this. bootstrap-emacs (nor emacs) does not actually load loaddefs.el; it's just dumped with the binary. I was recording autoloads until loaddefs.el was generated, but actually, I need to record them till loaddefs.el is used, that is when emacs is dumped. The attached patch seems to address. Can you confirm, then I will apply to master. --=-=-= Content-Type: text/x-diff Content-Disposition: inline; filename=0001-Record-autoloads-till-emacs-dump.patch >From 74539c444487094e45a0dd1b4cdb4553eb9cdfe1 Mon Sep 17 00:00:00 2001 From: Phillip Lord Date: Fri, 13 Jan 2017 13:57:51 +0000 Subject: [PATCH] Record autoloads till emacs dump * admin/ldefs-clean.el (ldefs-clean-up): Record autoloads till emacs dump * lisp/ldefs-boot-auto.el (batch-byte-compile): Update Previously, autoloads were collected till loaddefs.el was generated as part of the build. However, bootstrap-emacs does not load loaddefs (rather it is dumped), hence we must record autoloads until the full emacs binary is dumped. --- admin/ldefs-clean.el | 3 ++- lisp/ldefs-boot-auto.el | 34 ++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++ 2 files changed, 36 insertions(+), 1 deletion(-) diff --git a/admin/ldefs-clean.el b/admin/ldefs-clean.el index 6eabe57..808b537 100644 --- a/admin/ldefs-clean.el +++ b/admin/ldefs-clean.el @@ -39,7 +39,8 @@ ldefs-clean-up (goto-char (point-max)) ;; We only need the autoloads up till loaddefs.el is ;; generated. After this, ldefs-boot.el is not needed - (search-backward " GEN loaddefs.el") + (search-backward "-l loadup dump") + (beginning-of-line) (delete-region (point) (point-max)) (keep-lines "(autoload" (point-min) (point-max)) (sort-lines nil (point-min) (point-max)) diff --git a/lisp/ldefs-boot-auto.el b/lisp/ldefs-boot-auto.el index 914fec8..020c670 100644 --- a/lisp/ldefs-boot-auto.el +++ b/lisp/ldefs-boot-auto.el @@ -6,6 +6,8 @@ (autoload 'add-change-log-entry "add-log" nil nil nil) (autoload 'add-log-current-defun "add-log" nil nil nil) (autoload 'batch-byte-compile "bytecomp" nil nil nil) +(autoload 'batch-update-autoloads "autoload" nil nil nil) +(autoload 'bounds-of-thing-at-point "thingatpt" nil nil nil) (autoload 'browse-url "browse-url" nil nil nil) (autoload 'buffer-face-mode "face-remap" nil nil nil) (autoload 'byte-compile "bytecomp" nil nil nil) @@ -24,11 +26,16 @@ (autoload 'compilation-mode "compile" nil nil nil) (autoload 'compilation-shell-minor-mode "compile" nil nil nil) (autoload 'compilation-start "compile" nil nil nil) +(autoload 'completing-read-multiple "crm" nil nil nil) +(autoload 'conf-mode "conf-mode" nil nil nil) +(autoload 'create-glyph "disp-table" nil nil nil) (autoload 'create-image "image" nil nil nil) +(autoload 'cursor-sensor-mode "cursor-sensor" nil nil nil) (autoload 'custom-save-all "cus-edit" nil nil nil) (autoload 'customize-face "cus-edit" nil nil nil) (autoload 'customize-group "cus-edit" nil nil nil) (autoload 'customize-option "cus-edit" nil nil nil) +(autoload 'customize-push-and-save "cus-edit" nil nil nil) (autoload 'customize-set-variable "cus-edit" nil nil nil) (autoload 'debug "debug" nil nil nil) (autoload 'define-ccl-program "ccl" nil nil t) @@ -36,6 +43,8 @@ (autoload 'define-minor-mode "easy-mmode" nil nil t) (autoload 'delete-extract-rectangle "rect" nil nil nil) (autoload 'describe-char "descr-text" nil nil nil) +(autoload 'describe-coding-system "mule-diag" nil nil nil) +(autoload 'describe-display-table "disp-table" nil nil nil) (autoload 'describe-function "help-fns" nil nil nil) (autoload 'describe-function-1 "help-fns" nil nil nil) (autoload 'describe-package "package" nil nil nil) @@ -43,11 +52,21 @@ (autoload 'desktop-save "desktop" nil nil nil) (autoload 'diff-mode "diff-mode" nil nil nil) (autoload 'dired "dired" nil nil nil) +(autoload 'dired-copy-file "dired-aux" nil nil nil) +(autoload 'dired-goto-subdir "dired-aux" nil nil nil) +(autoload 'dired-hide-subdir "dired-aux" nil nil nil) +(autoload 'dired-insert-subdir "dired-aux" nil nil nil) +(autoload 'dired-kill-subdir "dired-aux" nil nil nil) +(autoload 'dired-mark-subdir-files "dired-aux" nil nil nil) (autoload 'dired-mode "dired" nil nil nil) (autoload 'dired-noselect "dired" nil nil nil) +(autoload 'dired-query "dired-aux" nil nil nil) +(autoload 'dired-rename-file "dired-aux" nil nil nil) (autoload 'display-call-tree "bytecomp" nil nil nil) +(autoload 'display-table-slot "disp-table" nil nil nil) (autoload 'display-warning "warnings" nil nil nil) (autoload 'easy-menu-create-menu "easymenu" nil nil nil) +(autoload 'edebug-basic-spec "edebug" nil nil nil) (autoload 'ediff-patch-file "ediff" nil nil nil) (autoload 'edit-kbd-macro "edmacro" nil nil nil) (autoload 'extract-rectangle "rect" nil nil nil) @@ -67,8 +86,10 @@ (autoload 'help-with-tutorial "tutorial" nil nil nil) (autoload 'help-xref-button "help-mode" nil nil nil) (autoload 'hi-lock-face-buffer "hi-lock" nil nil nil) +(autoload 'html-mode "sgml-mode" nil nil nil) (autoload 'image-type-available-p "image" nil nil nil) (autoload 'info "info" nil nil nil) +(autoload 'info-complete-symbol "info-look" nil nil nil) (autoload 'info-emacs-manual "info" nil nil nil) (autoload 'insert-image "image" nil nil nil) (autoload 'insert-rectangle "rect" nil nil nil) @@ -83,21 +104,27 @@ (autoload 'multi-isearch-buffers-regexp "misearch" nil nil nil) (autoload 'multi-isearch-files "misearch" nil nil nil) (autoload 'multi-isearch-files-regexp "misearch" nil nil nil) +(autoload 'nxml-mode "nxml-mode" nil nil nil) (autoload 'open-network-stream "network-stream" nil nil nil) (autoload 'package-initialize "package" nil nil nil) (autoload 'parse-time-string "parse-time" nil nil nil) (autoload 'pp "pp" nil nil nil) (autoload 'pp-buffer "pp" nil nil nil) +(autoload 'print-buffer "lpr" nil nil nil) +(autoload 'quail-defrule-internal "quail" nil nil nil) (autoload 'read-kbd-macro "edmacro" nil nil nil) (autoload 'regexp-opt "regexp-opt" nil nil nil) (autoload 'rx "rx" nil nil t) (autoload 'seconds-to-string "time-date" nil nil nil) (autoload 'seconds-to-time "time-date" nil nil nil) +(autoload 'server-save-buffers-kill-terminal "server" nil nil nil) (autoload 'server-start "server" nil nil nil) (autoload 'set-nested-alist "mule-util" nil nil nil) +(autoload 'skeleton-insert "skeleton" nil nil nil) (autoload 'smerge-mode "smerge-mode" nil nil nil) (autoload 'smerge-start-session "smerge-mode" nil nil nil) (autoload 'standard-display-8bit "disp-table" nil nil nil) +(autoload 'standard-display-default "disp-table" nil nil nil) (autoload 'tags-query-replace "etags" nil nil nil) (autoload 'tags-search "etags" nil nil nil) (autoload 'text-scale-increase "face-remap" nil nil nil) @@ -106,6 +133,12 @@ (autoload 'timezone-make-date-arpa-standard "timezone" nil nil nil) (autoload 'tmm-menubar "tmm" nil nil nil) (autoload 'truncate-string-to-width "mule-util" nil nil nil) +(autoload 'ucs-normalize-HFS-NFC-region "ucs-normalize" nil nil nil) +(autoload 'ucs-normalize-HFS-NFD-region "ucs-normalize" nil nil nil) +(autoload 'ucs-normalize-NFC-region "ucs-normalize" nil nil nil) +(autoload 'ucs-normalize-NFD-region "ucs-normalize" nil nil nil) +(autoload 'ucs-normalize-NFKC-region "ucs-normalize" nil nil nil) +(autoload 'ucs-normalize-NFKD-region "ucs-normalize" nil nil nil) (autoload 'url-handler-mode "url-handlers" nil nil nil) (autoload 'variable-at-point "help-fns" nil nil nil) (autoload 'vc-register "vc" nil nil nil) @@ -114,6 +147,7 @@ (autoload 'view-buffer "view" nil nil nil) (autoload 'view-buffer-other-window "view" nil nil nil) (autoload 'view-file "view" nil nil nil) +(autoload 'view-mode "view" nil nil nil) (autoload 'view-mode-enter "view" nil nil nil) (autoload 'visit-tags-table "etags" nil nil nil) (autoload 'warn "warnings" nil nil nil) -- 2.7.4 --=-=-=-- From unknown Mon Jun 23 00:36:20 2025 X-Loop: help-debbugs@gnu.org Subject: bug#25360: File mode specification errors during building Resent-From: Eli Zaretskii Original-Sender: "Debbugs-submit" Resent-CC: bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org Resent-Date: Fri, 13 Jan 2017 14:20:01 +0000 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-Sender: help-debbugs@gnu.org X-GNU-PR-Message: followup 25360 X-GNU-PR-Package: emacs X-GNU-PR-Keywords: To: phillip.lord@russet.org.uk (Phillip Lord) Cc: rgm@gnu.org, 25360@debbugs.gnu.org Reply-To: Eli Zaretskii Received: via spool by 25360-submit@debbugs.gnu.org id=B25360.148431714917107 (code B ref 25360); Fri, 13 Jan 2017 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From: phillip.lord@russet.org.uk (Phillip Lord) > Cc: rgm@gnu.org, 25360@debbugs.gnu.org > Date: Fri, 13 Jan 2017 14:08:55 +0000 > > So, the cause of the problem is this. bootstrap-emacs (nor emacs) does > not actually load loaddefs.el; it's just dumped with the binary. I was > recording autoloads until loaddefs.el was generated, but actually, I > need to record them till loaddefs.el is used, that is when emacs is > dumped. > > The attached patch seems to address. Can you confirm, then I will apply > to master. Looks OK, but I guess the comment before the changed code needs to be updated as well? Thanks. From unknown Mon Jun 23 00:36:20 2025 X-Loop: help-debbugs@gnu.org Subject: bug#25360: File mode specification errors during building Resent-From: Eli Zaretskii Original-Sender: "Debbugs-submit" Resent-CC: bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org Resent-Date: Fri, 13 Jan 2017 14:23:01 +0000 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-Sender: help-debbugs@gnu.org X-GNU-PR-Message: followup 25360 X-GNU-PR-Package: emacs X-GNU-PR-Keywords: To: phillip.lord@russet.org.uk (Phillip Lord) Cc: rgm@gnu.org, 25360@debbugs.gnu.org Reply-To: Eli Zaretskii Received: via spool by 25360-submit@debbugs.gnu.org id=B25360.148431735717460 (code B ref 25360); Fri, 13 Jan 2017 14:23:01 +0000 Received: (at 25360) by debbugs.gnu.org; 13 Jan 2017 14:22:37 +0000 Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:52198 helo=debbugs.gnu.org) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1cS2kX-0004XX-Av for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Fri, 13 Jan 2017 09:22:37 -0500 Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([208.118.235.92]:36184) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1cS2kW-0004XK-F8 for 25360@debbugs.gnu.org; Fri, 13 Jan 2017 09:22:36 -0500 Received: from Debian-exim by eggs.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1cS2kO-0007yV-2k for 25360@debbugs.gnu.org; Fri, 13 Jan 2017 09:22:31 -0500 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.3.2 (2011-06-06) on eggs.gnu.org X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-5.1 required=5.0 tests=BAYES_00,RP_MATCHES_RCVD autolearn=disabled version=3.3.2 Received: from fencepost.gnu.org ([2001:4830:134:3::e]:38813) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1cS2kO-0007yR-0l; Fri, 13 Jan 2017 09:22:28 -0500 Received: from 84.94.185.246.cable.012.net.il ([84.94.185.246]:3407 helo=home-c4e4a596f7) by fencepost.gnu.org with esmtpsa (TLS1.2:RSA_AES_256_CBC_SHA1:256) (Exim 4.82) (envelope-from ) id 1cS2kL-0003gg-G9; Fri, 13 Jan 2017 09:22:26 -0500 Date: Fri, 13 Jan 2017 16:22:26 +0200 Message-Id: <8337gnca59.fsf@gnu.org> From: Eli Zaretskii In-reply-to: <87inpj1288.fsf@russet.org.uk> (phillip.lord@russet.org.uk) References: <8760lndxlz.fsf@russet.org.uk> <83bmvfdk2r.fsf@gnu.org> <8737gqsqqr.fsf@russet.org.uk> <83ziiyda4y.fsf@gnu.org> <87inpj1288.fsf@russet.org.uk> X-detected-operating-system: by eggs.gnu.org: GNU/Linux 2.2.x-3.x [generic] X-Received-From: 2001:4830:134:3::e X-Spam-Score: -8.2 (--------) X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18 Precedence: list List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Sender: "Debbugs-submit" X-Spam-Score: -8.2 (--------) > From: phillip.lord@russet.org.uk (Phillip Lord) > Cc: rgm@gnu.org, 25360@debbugs.gnu.org > Date: Fri, 13 Jan 2017 14:08:55 +0000 > > - (search-backward " GEN loaddefs.el") > + (search-backward "-l loadup dump") > + (beginning-of-line) Btw, relying on the likes of " GEN loaddefs.el" assumes the user didn't say "make V=1", so I think it should be avoided anyway. From unknown Mon Jun 23 00:36:20 2025 X-Loop: help-debbugs@gnu.org Subject: bug#25360: File mode specification errors during building Resent-From: phillip.lord@russet.org.uk (Phillip Lord) Original-Sender: "Debbugs-submit" Resent-CC: bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org Resent-Date: Fri, 13 Jan 2017 16:48:01 +0000 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-Sender: help-debbugs@gnu.org X-GNU-PR-Message: followup 25360 X-GNU-PR-Package: emacs X-GNU-PR-Keywords: To: Eli Zaretskii Cc: rgm@gnu.org, 25360@debbugs.gnu.org Received: via spool by 25360-submit@debbugs.gnu.org id=B25360.14843260785835 (code B ref 25360); Fri, 13 Jan 2017 16:48:01 +0000 Received: (at 25360) by debbugs.gnu.org; 13 Jan 2017 16:47:58 +0000 Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:53085 helo=debbugs.gnu.org) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1cS51C-0001W3-Fm for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Fri, 13 Jan 2017 11:47:58 -0500 Received: from mailgw.mycpanelcloud.co.uk ([185.116.214.205]:12560) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1cS51B-0001Vq-EK for 25360@debbugs.gnu.org; Fri, 13 Jan 2017 11:47:57 -0500 Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mailgw.mycpanelcloud.co.uk (Postfix) with ESMTP id EF2F6C4E39 for <25360@debbugs.gnu.org>; Fri, 13 Jan 2017 16:47:28 +0000 (GMT) X-Virus-Scanned: by SpamTitan at mycpanelcloud.co.uk Received: from mailgw.mycpanelcloud.co.uk (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mailgw.mycpanelcloud.co.uk (Postfix) with ESMTP id B0E25C49FF for <25360@debbugs.gnu.org>; Fri, 13 Jan 2017 16:47:27 +0000 (GMT) Received: from cloud103.planethippo.com (cloud103.planethippo.com [31.216.48.48]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES256-GCM-SHA384 (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by mailgw.mycpanelcloud.co.uk (Postfix) with ESMTPS id A5192C483E for <25360@debbugs.gnu.org>; Fri, 13 Jan 2017 16:47:27 +0000 (GMT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; q=dns/txt; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=russet.org.uk; s=default; h=Content-Type:MIME-Version:Message-ID: In-Reply-To:Date:References:Subject:Cc:To:From:Sender:Reply-To: Content-Transfer-Encoding:Content-ID:Content-Description:Resent-Date: Resent-From:Resent-Sender:Resent-To:Resent-Cc:Resent-Message-ID:List-Id: List-Help:List-Unsubscribe:List-Subscribe:List-Post:List-Owner:List-Archive; bh=vEXw87yKr1QQx18LRvB5NxJVBT97D7EezXjezivRXe0=; b=g2TFabQILX540pm0Yg3enRhPy d8xoDLQx68vYqEVfZ4m2IyMnwe5PI18apWB/iI4yAPc1UWm8vjG66rG+olBYwoMeaLQDm3IWnl1ct XLFg+cIKOoPPPr8RlqmyvGaJKZ4r1f/lPF2aJ5/fKqg454DU5rFUIJTCG7YkP1xHMsenkBQFRd037 Aos9QE6QP5QKyT49pBnrTTaShDluP9wgNi6y/fcs6oH29THpMstoIZ0+CWYDKEd06QiOTym0Ichhq ZowfwBIoA1I4A/7O5vMX76xT98YsGTpo5KmguVpxxRk75YwvdXewM4c1afiz/2qfsbL8qqwy+rx6Z 4s1Jp1b+g==; Received: from janus-nat-128-240-225-37.ncl.ac.uk ([128.240.225.37]:61953 helo=russet.org.uk) by cloud103.planethippo.com with esmtpsa (TLSv1.2:ECDHE-RSA-AES128-GCM-SHA256:128) (Exim 4.87) (envelope-from ) id 1cS513-000HoU-VT; Fri, 13 Jan 2017 16:47:50 +0000 From: phillip.lord@russet.org.uk (Phillip Lord) References: <8760lndxlz.fsf@russet.org.uk> <83bmvfdk2r.fsf@gnu.org> <8737gqsqqr.fsf@russet.org.uk> <83ziiyda4y.fsf@gnu.org> <87inpj1288.fsf@russet.org.uk> <8337gnca59.fsf@gnu.org> Date: Fri, 13 Jan 2017 16:47:49 +0000 In-Reply-To: <8337gnca59.fsf@gnu.org> (Eli Zaretskii's message of "Fri, 13 Jan 2017 16:22:26 +0200") Message-ID: <877f5yyki2.fsf@russet.org.uk> User-Agent: Gnus/5.13 (Gnus v5.13) Emacs/25.1.91 (gnu/linux) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain X-AntiAbuse: This header was added to track abuse, please include it with any abuse report X-AntiAbuse: Primary Hostname - cloud103.planethippo.com X-AntiAbuse: Original Domain - debbugs.gnu.org X-AntiAbuse: Originator/Caller UID/GID - [47 12] / [47 12] X-AntiAbuse: Sender Address Domain - russet.org.uk X-Get-Message-Sender-Via: cloud103.planethippo.com: authenticated_id: phillip.lord@russet.org.uk X-Authenticated-Sender: cloud103.planethippo.com: phillip.lord@russet.org.uk X-Spam-Score: 0.0 (/) X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18 Precedence: list List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Sender: "Debbugs-submit" X-Spam-Score: 0.0 (/) Eli Zaretskii writes: >> From: phillip.lord@russet.org.uk (Phillip Lord) >> Cc: rgm@gnu.org, 25360@debbugs.gnu.org >> Date: Fri, 13 Jan 2017 14:08:55 +0000 >> >> - (search-backward " GEN loaddefs.el") >> + (search-backward "-l loadup dump") >> + (beginning-of-line) > > Btw, relying on the likes of " GEN loaddefs.el" assumes the user > didn't say "make V=1", so I think it should be avoided anyway. Yeah, I know. I didn't worry too much about that in this case, since this is an administrative task. This code is not run during a normal bootstrap. Phil From unknown Mon Jun 23 00:36:20 2025 X-Loop: help-debbugs@gnu.org Subject: bug#25360: File mode specification errors during building Resent-From: phillip.lord@russet.org.uk (Phillip Lord) Original-Sender: "Debbugs-submit" Resent-CC: bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org Resent-Date: Fri, 13 Jan 2017 21:33:02 +0000 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-Sender: help-debbugs@gnu.org X-GNU-PR-Message: followup 25360 X-GNU-PR-Package: emacs X-GNU-PR-Keywords: To: Eli Zaretskii Cc: rgm@gnu.org, 25360@debbugs.gnu.org Received: via spool by 25360-submit@debbugs.gnu.org id=B25360.148434313411902 (code B ref 25360); Fri, 13 Jan 2017 21:33:02 +0000 Received: (at 25360) by debbugs.gnu.org; 13 Jan 2017 21:32:14 +0000 Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:53174 helo=debbugs.gnu.org) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1cS9SI-00035u-Js for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Fri, 13 Jan 2017 16:32:14 -0500 Received: from mailgw.mycpanelcloud.co.uk ([185.116.214.125]:60695) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1cS9SG-00035l-Vh for 25360@debbugs.gnu.org; Fri, 13 Jan 2017 16:32:13 -0500 Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mailgw.mycpanelcloud.co.uk (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8FF19C4876 for <25360@debbugs.gnu.org>; Fri, 13 Jan 2017 21:31:49 +0000 (GMT) X-Virus-Scanned: by SpamTitan at mycpanelcloud.co.uk Received: from mailgw.mycpanelcloud.co.uk (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mailgw.mycpanelcloud.co.uk (Postfix) with ESMTP id DC64CC4E4A for <25360@debbugs.gnu.org>; Fri, 13 Jan 2017 21:31:48 +0000 (GMT) Received: from cloud103.planethippo.com (cloud103.planethippo.com [31.216.48.48]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES256-GCM-SHA384 (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by mailgw.mycpanelcloud.co.uk (Postfix) with ESMTPS id C53A0C4E11 for <25360@debbugs.gnu.org>; Fri, 13 Jan 2017 21:31:48 +0000 (GMT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; q=dns/txt; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=russet.org.uk; s=default; h=Content-Type:MIME-Version:References:Message-ID :Date:In-Reply-To:Subject:Cc:To:From:Sender:Reply-To: Content-Transfer-Encoding:Content-ID:Content-Description:Resent-Date: Resent-From:Resent-Sender:Resent-To:Resent-Cc:Resent-Message-ID:List-Id: List-Help:List-Unsubscribe:List-Subscribe:List-Post:List-Owner:List-Archive; bh=T7cADlHVX2FzEDvpvdt92FT0kmPmceU8lsyGORYitK0=; b=cpjx0Ys2zaQYNcp+xBe7GGgiO iuBwGD1viO1FChRDzBSbP7mMst648dHWI5+vgXUYJfCB/WgYvQMcM6KVE3dxwCnXEB1Zl8gF+L/Y5 BRz+pRM2vw0hFDYA8BO+O4XmD3Lyjdc/0IOTPn7NTg/KRkaukMNDWTgaLT0lhjAqZ6076jqH5gW+m Pevuw2B6cB5v31wQ42iNtq2Bg7OJQzf1/M1EUNeYipKdEyrUREpHDAVpwvVrS3YlRQ8STBdvmTnZw 8N8oFduw1nhwbwbkcXm5YPLIXIwgMmnssT9dmWQDmDElUphcncrOg8o2Z3Mx9UiQbq3xWafo7YHYS eapXh5jug==; Received: from cpc6-benw10-2-0-cust167.gate.cable.virginm.net ([92.238.179.168]:58166 helo=russet.org.uk) by cloud103.planethippo.com with esmtpsa (TLSv1.2:ECDHE-RSA-AES128-GCM-SHA256:128) (Exim 4.87) (envelope-from ) id 1cS9SE-001eGL-9O; Fri, 13 Jan 2017 21:32:11 +0000 From: phillip.lord@russet.org.uk (Phillip Lord) In-Reply-To: <834m13caay.fsf@gnu.org> (Eli Zaretskii's message of "Fri, 13 Jan 2017 16:19:01 +0200") Date: Fri, 13 Jan 2017 21:31:58 +0000 Message-ID: <87k29ylk8h.fsf@russet.org.uk> References: <8760lndxlz.fsf@russet.org.uk> <83bmvfdk2r.fsf@gnu.org> <8737gqsqqr.fsf@russet.org.uk> <83ziiyda4y.fsf@gnu.org> <87inpj1288.fsf@russet.org.uk> <834m13caay.fsf@gnu.org> User-Agent: Gnus/5.13 (Gnus v5.13) Emacs/25.1.50 (gnu/linux) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain X-AntiAbuse: This header was added to track abuse, please include it with any abuse report X-AntiAbuse: Primary Hostname - cloud103.planethippo.com X-AntiAbuse: Original Domain - debbugs.gnu.org X-AntiAbuse: Originator/Caller UID/GID - [47 12] / [47 12] X-AntiAbuse: Sender Address Domain - russet.org.uk X-Get-Message-Sender-Via: cloud103.planethippo.com: authenticated_id: phillip.lord@russet.org.uk X-Authenticated-Sender: cloud103.planethippo.com: phillip.lord@russet.org.uk X-Spam-Score: 0.0 (/) X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18 Precedence: list List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Sender: "Debbugs-submit" X-Spam-Score: 0.0 (/) Eli Zaretskii writes: >> From: phillip.lord@russet.org.uk (Phillip Lord) >> Cc: rgm@gnu.org, 25360@debbugs.gnu.org >> Date: Fri, 13 Jan 2017 14:08:55 +0000 >> >> So, the cause of the problem is this. bootstrap-emacs (nor emacs) does >> not actually load loaddefs.el; it's just dumped with the binary. I was >> recording autoloads until loaddefs.el was generated, but actually, I >> need to record them till loaddefs.el is used, that is when emacs is >> dumped. >> >> The attached patch seems to address. Can you confirm, then I will apply >> to master. > > Looks OK, but I guess the comment before the changed code needs to be > updated as well? Good catch! I've pushed to master. We can close this if the next hydra build works as expected. Phil From unknown Mon Jun 23 00:36:20 2025 X-Loop: help-debbugs@gnu.org Subject: bug#25360: File mode specification errors during building Resent-From: Glenn Morris Original-Sender: "Debbugs-submit" Resent-CC: bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org Resent-Date: Sat, 14 Jan 2017 19:11:01 +0000 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-Sender: help-debbugs@gnu.org X-GNU-PR-Message: followup 25360 X-GNU-PR-Package: emacs X-GNU-PR-Keywords: To: phillip.lord@russet.org.uk (Phillip Lord) Cc: Eli Zaretskii , 25360@debbugs.gnu.org Received: via spool by 25360-submit@debbugs.gnu.org id=B25360.14844210189783 (code B ref 25360); Sat, 14 Jan 2017 19:11:01 +0000 Received: (at 25360) by debbugs.gnu.org; 14 Jan 2017 19:10:18 +0000 Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:54156 helo=debbugs.gnu.org) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1cSTiU-0002Xi-2D for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Sat, 14 Jan 2017 14:10:18 -0500 Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([208.118.235.92]:60082) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1cSTiS-0002XU-4v for 25360@debbugs.gnu.org; Sat, 14 Jan 2017 14:10:16 -0500 Received: from Debian-exim by eggs.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1cSTiM-0000BZ-2H for 25360@debbugs.gnu.org; Sat, 14 Jan 2017 14:10:10 -0500 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.3.2 (2011-06-06) on eggs.gnu.org X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-5.1 required=5.0 tests=BAYES_00,RP_MATCHES_RCVD autolearn=disabled version=3.3.2 Received: from fencepost.gnu.org ([2001:4830:134:3::e]:59165) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1cSThX-0008Kd-Uo; Sat, 14 Jan 2017 14:09:19 -0500 Received: from rgm by fencepost.gnu.org with local (Exim 4.82) (envelope-from ) id 1cSThX-0007zJ-Dg; Sat, 14 Jan 2017 14:09:19 -0500 From: Glenn Morris References: <8760lndxlz.fsf@russet.org.uk> <83bmvfdk2r.fsf@gnu.org> <8737gqsqqr.fsf@russet.org.uk> <83ziiyda4y.fsf@gnu.org> <87inpj1288.fsf@russet.org.uk> <834m13caay.fsf@gnu.org> <87k29ylk8h.fsf@russet.org.uk> X-Spook: smugglers White Powder Quarnantine Drug Enforcement X-Ran: 548MD}9O"8LN*j_yi?>+hF[oQn8lMHhfX-}n]u X-Hue: brightblack X-Attribution: GM Date: Sat, 14 Jan 2017 14:09:19 -0500 In-Reply-To: <87k29ylk8h.fsf@russet.org.uk> (Phillip Lord's message of "Fri, 13 Jan 2017 21:31:58 +0000") Message-ID: User-Agent: Gnus (www.gnus.org), GNU Emacs (www.gnu.org/software/emacs/) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain X-detected-operating-system: by eggs.gnu.org: GNU/Linux 2.2.x-3.x [generic] X-Received-From: 2001:4830:134:3::e X-Spam-Score: -8.2 (--------) X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18 Precedence: list List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Sender: "Debbugs-submit" X-Spam-Score: -8.2 (--------) Phillip Lord wrote: > I've pushed to master. We can close this if the next hydra build works > as expected. There's nothing special about hydra builds. I quote them only because they provide a convenient way to show a full, clean build log. The image-type-auto-detected-p issue persists, eg http://hydra.nixos.org/build/46502443/log/raw Note this is a without-x build (image-type-auto-detected-p used to be autoloaded in all builds). From unknown Mon Jun 23 00:36:20 2025 X-Loop: help-debbugs@gnu.org Subject: bug#25360: File mode specification errors during building Resent-From: phillip.lord@russet.org.uk (Phillip Lord) Original-Sender: "Debbugs-submit" Resent-CC: bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org Resent-Date: Sun, 15 Jan 2017 22:06:02 +0000 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-Sender: help-debbugs@gnu.org X-GNU-PR-Message: followup 25360 X-GNU-PR-Package: emacs X-GNU-PR-Keywords: To: Glenn Morris Cc: Eli Zaretskii , 25360@debbugs.gnu.org Received: via spool by 25360-submit@debbugs.gnu.org id=B25360.148451794517174 (code B ref 25360); Sun, 15 Jan 2017 22:06:02 +0000 Received: (at 25360) by debbugs.gnu.org; 15 Jan 2017 22:05:45 +0000 Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:55091 helo=debbugs.gnu.org) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1cSsvo-0004Sw-Pv for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Sun, 15 Jan 2017 17:05:44 -0500 Received: from mailgw.mycpanelcloud.co.uk ([185.116.214.125]:16472) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1cSsvm-0004Sm-U0 for 25360@debbugs.gnu.org; Sun, 15 Jan 2017 17:05:43 -0500 Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mailgw.mycpanelcloud.co.uk (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3E200C445E for <25360@debbugs.gnu.org>; Sun, 15 Jan 2017 22:05:19 +0000 (GMT) X-Virus-Scanned: by SpamTitan at mycpanelcloud.co.uk Received: from mailgw.mycpanelcloud.co.uk (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mailgw.mycpanelcloud.co.uk (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7950AC5E53 for <25360@debbugs.gnu.org>; Sun, 15 Jan 2017 22:05:14 +0000 (GMT) Received: from cloud103.planethippo.com (cloud103.planethippo.com [31.216.48.48]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES256-GCM-SHA384 (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by mailgw.mycpanelcloud.co.uk (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 64B69C5E27 for <25360@debbugs.gnu.org>; Sun, 15 Jan 2017 22:05:14 +0000 (GMT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; q=dns/txt; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=russet.org.uk; s=default; h=Content-Type:MIME-Version:Message-ID: In-Reply-To:Date:References:Subject:Cc:To:From:Sender:Reply-To: Content-Transfer-Encoding:Content-ID:Content-Description:Resent-Date: Resent-From:Resent-Sender:Resent-To:Resent-Cc:Resent-Message-ID:List-Id: List-Help:List-Unsubscribe:List-Subscribe:List-Post:List-Owner:List-Archive; bh=gKg6/r3LoDPhP5KerzY/ljLJ2LukPfKXzQmftPvaDTs=; b=vT+8B+Ja5I43YOTfy0kWUXEtq 0cVi/pjsM1OhZ7oXadFPBGan9kHzyTJ3x238RbdWfT42Y9GCdKVeepJfZebcTHHRKQ0q186YvIDyQ TyN698wLyhULfBGgT8/CXua+6s7DELvJxciKAQn300aqwRYEAZW0lk7nrQo5iDPNGQ4hSlMtBBCfl mk1/qhcdJnYXehi8zFncn+reZAZPFEyqpNhFZwC86iRTY+KBwmZZvkyy6PZ6r4uBOEWvOWECntVbg kgd/ZIzNCqIBEIh2CDwdsnwauy6Ty92TKpqJGM4f51tlpdkGE0yo8uIm8xOZ1TuBi8tRzi9kl9jvw o8KVlHNkw==; Received: from cpc6-benw10-2-0-cust167.gate.cable.virginm.net ([92.238.179.168]:41596 helo=russet.org.uk) by cloud103.planethippo.com with esmtpsa (TLSv1.2:ECDHE-RSA-AES128-GCM-SHA256:128) (Exim 4.87) (envelope-from ) id 1cSsvg-003GCL-Pq; Sun, 15 Jan 2017 22:05:36 +0000 From: phillip.lord@russet.org.uk (Phillip Lord) References: <8760lndxlz.fsf@russet.org.uk> <83bmvfdk2r.fsf@gnu.org> <8737gqsqqr.fsf@russet.org.uk> <83ziiyda4y.fsf@gnu.org> <87inpj1288.fsf@russet.org.uk> <834m13caay.fsf@gnu.org> <87k29ylk8h.fsf@russet.org.uk> Date: Sun, 15 Jan 2017 22:05:36 +0000 In-Reply-To: (Glenn Morris's message of "Sat, 14 Jan 2017 14:09:19 -0500") Message-ID: <87mvest1vz.fsf@russet.org.uk> User-Agent: Gnus/5.13 (Gnus v5.13) Emacs/25.1.50 (gnu/linux) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain X-AntiAbuse: This header was added to track abuse, please include it with any abuse report X-AntiAbuse: Primary Hostname - cloud103.planethippo.com X-AntiAbuse: Original Domain - debbugs.gnu.org X-AntiAbuse: Originator/Caller UID/GID - [47 12] / [47 12] X-AntiAbuse: Sender Address Domain - russet.org.uk X-Get-Message-Sender-Via: cloud103.planethippo.com: authenticated_id: phillip.lord@russet.org.uk X-Authenticated-Sender: cloud103.planethippo.com: phillip.lord@russet.org.uk X-Spam-Score: 0.0 (/) X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18 Precedence: list List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Sender: "Debbugs-submit" X-Spam-Score: 0.0 (/) Glenn Morris writes: > Phillip Lord wrote: > >> I've pushed to master. We can close this if the next hydra build works >> as expected. > > There's nothing special about hydra builds. I quote them only because > they provide a convenient way to show a full, clean build log. > > The image-type-auto-detected-p issue persists, eg > http://hydra.nixos.org/build/46502443/log/raw > > Note this is a without-x build (image-type-auto-detected-p used to be > autoloaded in all builds). Unfortunately, I cannot reproduce this on my own machine. Exactly how is the hydra build configured? I've tried --without-x, as a guess, but I get no error. Possible solutions: 1) Ignore it 2) Move the leim-list dependency from "emacs" to "all". The leim files will now get built by emacs not bootstrap-emacs. 3) Suppress the error in some other way, probably by sticking "input-type-auto-detected-p" into ldefs-boot-manual.el I quite like 2, but it will break two autoloads (hangul-input-method-activate and ucs-input-activate). I do not know why these two methods need autoloading while none of the other files in the leim directory have autoloads. I'm struggling with 3) because I can't reproduce. Phil From unknown Mon Jun 23 00:36:20 2025 X-Loop: help-debbugs@gnu.org Subject: bug#25360: File mode specification errors during building Resent-From: npostavs@users.sourceforge.net Original-Sender: "Debbugs-submit" Resent-CC: bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org Resent-Date: Sun, 15 Jan 2017 23:53:01 +0000 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-Sender: help-debbugs@gnu.org X-GNU-PR-Message: followup 25360 X-GNU-PR-Package: emacs X-GNU-PR-Keywords: To: phillip.lord@russet.org.uk (Phillip Lord) Cc: Glenn Morris , Eli Zaretskii , 25360@debbugs.gnu.org Received: via spool by 25360-submit@debbugs.gnu.org id=B25360.148452435826488 (code B ref 25360); Sun, 15 Jan 2017 23:53:01 +0000 Received: (at 25360) by debbugs.gnu.org; 15 Jan 2017 23:52:38 +0000 Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:55114 helo=debbugs.gnu.org) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1cSubG-0006t9-69 for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Sun, 15 Jan 2017 18:52:38 -0500 Received: from mail-it0-f65.google.com ([209.85.214.65]:34396) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1cSubE-0006su-AU for 25360@debbugs.gnu.org; Sun, 15 Jan 2017 18:52:36 -0500 Received: by mail-it0-f65.google.com with SMTP id o185so10747315itb.1 for <25360@debbugs.gnu.org>; Sun, 15 Jan 2017 15:52:36 -0800 (PST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20161025; h=sender:from:to:cc:subject:references:date:in-reply-to:message-id :user-agent:mime-version; bh=IyyBm13DHWmaZ7q4Qs34dpC2iAlUFy33EmTK2hM4Ye4=; b=HI4mwL7OQeqHG+xhMJZfvLerFY7EbhUEkGJI2wwWLYmFHtfKOi8zP4r6VxVxbs57/A gbY1YfVJKVtOqPh2MIcFs0kJkX2Ei8e69OBjpyjvT3cafwfFaRZ2/ZRbI0z/WvB/bJma vxy9asMyGvapOW7F69z1cKrZ785CQ/ax5e1YSql5nYwgNXsShqKYg9WImrwI4seu8kuY +fkTB3nFLCkDsiH2Ta5ClrbBYIeOk+oM3yPZkHdPj+ROlzMJeNFiO55MuDTAklcHzunh fE3zWgdOqeu+xsrXS5CEPUflGdJtAUqhur6lJ6KTJpoBj/NCD4lz5eXOJsibNL6RvZd/ 4ZIw== X-Google-DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=1e100.net; s=20161025; h=x-gm-message-state:sender:from:to:cc:subject:references:date :in-reply-to:message-id:user-agent:mime-version; bh=IyyBm13DHWmaZ7q4Qs34dpC2iAlUFy33EmTK2hM4Ye4=; b=EIekqnvPfIIu6EQUgJGQBI+JCyt/fqonLGKCAUFlLS5Xc7f/21kIpwbfbuaYL+7nUZ nmB7Ey53X2pubgunWgX8L83q11iVkj+oHxMezK9ThYbMYOTr4qTt0uPHZfRePD72v6gi qJbs5gr2lkHMbfi+3JkN2DHZcWuKf95nKJX6XjaxNticYLXAogqG1L6dNlVgUak426lH rA6opwkurWGB2nJr7s7SOLQ5Ja8ki+mouW2xhyACIK70Wy8thBRkAL0oXgvcXJAnUqVJ Cxmtyqz/CwRFt/0GLiJhba7LVWMlnoCJ/KbJFuDqgHoyltSQAvRpQpTMydVcjANN5yqX aUwQ== X-Gm-Message-State: AIkVDXLRvX5WVsVJPIstbnooPuhzfUBqyB+QCmhPlwIw5+H33xz1sxSyaKitQfqOAuLF6g== X-Received: by 10.36.155.198 with SMTP id o189mr13675528itd.123.1484524350640; Sun, 15 Jan 2017 15:52:30 -0800 (PST) Received: from zony ([45.2.7.65]) by smtp.googlemail.com with ESMTPSA id 184sm5158567itx.0.2017.01.15.15.52.28 (version=TLS1_2 cipher=ECDHE-RSA-CHACHA20-POLY1305 bits=256/256); Sun, 15 Jan 2017 15:52:29 -0800 (PST) From: npostavs@users.sourceforge.net References: <8760lndxlz.fsf@russet.org.uk> <83bmvfdk2r.fsf@gnu.org> <8737gqsqqr.fsf@russet.org.uk> <83ziiyda4y.fsf@gnu.org> <87inpj1288.fsf@russet.org.uk> <834m13caay.fsf@gnu.org> <87k29ylk8h.fsf@russet.org.uk> <87mvest1vz.fsf@russet.org.uk> Date: Sun, 15 Jan 2017 18:53:35 -0500 In-Reply-To: <87mvest1vz.fsf@russet.org.uk> (Phillip Lord's message of "Sun, 15 Jan 2017 22:05:36 +0000") Message-ID: <87h94zyj5s.fsf@users.sourceforge.net> User-Agent: Gnus/5.13 (Gnus v5.13) Emacs/25.1 (gnu/linux) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain X-Spam-Score: 0.5 (/) X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18 Precedence: list List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Sender: "Debbugs-submit" X-Spam-Score: 0.5 (/) phillip.lord@russet.org.uk (Phillip Lord) writes: > Glenn Morris writes: > >> Phillip Lord wrote: >> >>> I've pushed to master. We can close this if the next hydra build works >>> as expected. >> >> There's nothing special about hydra builds. I quote them only because >> they provide a convenient way to show a full, clean build log. >> >> The image-type-auto-detected-p issue persists, eg >> http://hydra.nixos.org/build/46502443/log/raw >> >> Note this is a without-x build (image-type-auto-detected-p used to be >> autoloaded in all builds). > > Unfortunately, I cannot reproduce this on my own machine. Exactly how is > the hydra build configured? I've tried --without-x, as a guess, but I > get no error. I can reproduce here. Did you just run 'make bootstrap' after reconfiguring? I think you need 'make extraclean', because the part that triggers this is not cleaned by bootstrap. Using insert-file-contents instead of file-file-noselect seems to fix it for me: --- i/lisp/international/titdic-cnv.el +++ w/lisp/international/titdic-cnv.el @@ -1167,11 +1167,11 @@ miscdic-convert (if (eq coding 'iso-2022-cn-ext) "Chinese-CNS" "Chinese-GB")) "\" \"" title "\" t\n") - (let* ((coding-system-for-read - (coding-system-change-eol-conversion coding 'unix)) - (dicbuf (find-file-noselect filename))) - (funcall converter dicbuf name title) - (kill-buffer dicbuf)) + (let ((coding-system-for-read + (coding-system-change-eol-conversion coding 'unix))) + (with-temp-buffer + (insert-file-contents filename) + (funcall converter (current-buffer) name title))) (insert ";; Local Variables:\n" ";; version-control: never\n" ";; no-update-autoloads: t\n" From unknown Mon Jun 23 00:36:20 2025 X-Loop: help-debbugs@gnu.org Subject: bug#25360: File mode specification errors during building Resent-From: phillip.lord@russet.org.uk (Phillip Lord) Original-Sender: "Debbugs-submit" Resent-CC: bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org Resent-Date: Mon, 16 Jan 2017 00:08:02 +0000 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-Sender: help-debbugs@gnu.org X-GNU-PR-Message: followup 25360 X-GNU-PR-Package: emacs X-GNU-PR-Keywords: To: npostavs@users.sourceforge.net Cc: Glenn Morris , Eli Zaretskii , 25360@debbugs.gnu.org Received: via spool by 25360-submit@debbugs.gnu.org id=B25360.148452524227951 (code B ref 25360); 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Mon, 16 Jan 2017 00:07:11 +0000 From: phillip.lord@russet.org.uk (Phillip Lord) References: <8760lndxlz.fsf@russet.org.uk> <83bmvfdk2r.fsf@gnu.org> <8737gqsqqr.fsf@russet.org.uk> <83ziiyda4y.fsf@gnu.org> <87inpj1288.fsf@russet.org.uk> <834m13caay.fsf@gnu.org> <87k29ylk8h.fsf@russet.org.uk> <87mvest1vz.fsf@russet.org.uk> <87h94zyj5s.fsf@users.sourceforge.net> Date: Mon, 16 Jan 2017 00:07:10 +0000 In-Reply-To: <87h94zyj5s.fsf@users.sourceforge.net> (npostavs@users.sourceforge.net's message of "Sun, 15 Jan 2017 18:53:35 -0500") Message-ID: <87fukj50lt.fsf@russet.org.uk> User-Agent: Gnus/5.13 (Gnus v5.13) Emacs/25.1.50 (gnu/linux) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain X-AntiAbuse: This header was added to track abuse, please include it with any abuse report X-AntiAbuse: Primary Hostname - cloud103.planethippo.com X-AntiAbuse: Original Domain - debbugs.gnu.org X-AntiAbuse: Originator/Caller UID/GID - [47 12] / [47 12] X-AntiAbuse: Sender Address Domain - russet.org.uk X-Get-Message-Sender-Via: cloud103.planethippo.com: authenticated_id: phillip.lord@russet.org.uk X-Authenticated-Sender: cloud103.planethippo.com: phillip.lord@russet.org.uk X-Spam-Score: 0.0 (/) X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18 Precedence: list List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Sender: "Debbugs-submit" X-Spam-Score: 0.0 (/) npostavs@users.sourceforge.net writes: >>> There's nothing special about hydra builds. I quote them only because >>> they provide a convenient way to show a full, clean build log. >>> >>> The image-type-auto-detected-p issue persists, eg >>> http://hydra.nixos.org/build/46502443/log/raw >>> >>> Note this is a without-x build (image-type-auto-detected-p used to be >>> autoloaded in all builds). >> >> Unfortunately, I cannot reproduce this on my own machine. Exactly how is >> the hydra build configured? I've tried --without-x, as a guess, but I >> get no error. > > I can reproduce here. Did you just run 'make bootstrap' after > reconfiguring? I think you need 'make extraclean', because the part > that triggers this is not cleaned by bootstrap. To my understanding, make bootstrap is at least as clean as extraclean. > Using insert-file-contents instead of file-file-noselect seems to fix it > for me: > > --- i/lisp/international/titdic-cnv.el > +++ w/lisp/international/titdic-cnv.el > @@ -1167,11 +1167,11 @@ miscdic-convert > (if (eq coding 'iso-2022-cn-ext) "Chinese-CNS" > "Chinese-GB")) > "\" \"" title "\" t\n") > - (let* ((coding-system-for-read > - (coding-system-change-eol-conversion coding 'unix)) > - (dicbuf (find-file-noselect filename))) > - (funcall converter dicbuf name title) > - (kill-buffer dicbuf)) > + (let ((coding-system-for-read > + (coding-system-change-eol-conversion coding 'unix))) > + (with-temp-buffer > + (insert-file-contents filename) > + (funcall converter (current-buffer) name title))) > (insert ";; Local Variables:\n" > ";; version-control: never\n" > ";; no-update-autoloads: t\n" Confused. What thing are you reproducing? The "image-type-auto-detected-p" or File mode specification error: (void-function html-mode) error? The "find-file-noselect" call is responsible for the "html-mode" error, but that should have been fixed with this commit. commit 72c668a9042ac6475eadedfee5c87fb1e6b2d753 Author: Phillip Lord Date: Fri Jan 13 13:57:51 2017 +0000 But this commit also stops the image-type-auto-detected-p errors for me. Phil From unknown Mon Jun 23 00:36:20 2025 X-Loop: help-debbugs@gnu.org Subject: bug#25360: File mode specification errors during building Resent-From: npostavs@users.sourceforge.net Original-Sender: "Debbugs-submit" Resent-CC: bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org Resent-Date: Mon, 16 Jan 2017 00:27:01 +0000 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-Sender: help-debbugs@gnu.org X-GNU-PR-Message: followup 25360 X-GNU-PR-Package: emacs X-GNU-PR-Keywords: To: phillip.lord@russet.org.uk (Phillip Lord) Cc: Glenn Morris , Eli Zaretskii , 25360@debbugs.gnu.org Received: via spool by 25360-submit@debbugs.gnu.org id=B25360.148452641829846 (code B ref 25360); Mon, 16 Jan 2017 00:27:01 +0000 Received: (at 25360) by debbugs.gnu.org; 16 Jan 2017 00:26:58 +0000 Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:55125 helo=debbugs.gnu.org) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1cSv8U-0007lK-7r for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Sun, 15 Jan 2017 19:26:58 -0500 Received: from mail-io0-f195.google.com ([209.85.223.195]:33060) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1cSv8S-0007l4-Gl for 25360@debbugs.gnu.org; Sun, 15 Jan 2017 19:26:56 -0500 Received: by mail-io0-f195.google.com with SMTP id 101so11125757iom.0 for <25360@debbugs.gnu.org>; Sun, 15 Jan 2017 16:26:56 -0800 (PST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20161025; h=sender:from:to:cc:subject:references:date:in-reply-to:message-id :user-agent:mime-version; bh=DsOPWeLOa7Qxx6loZTZ6PQdmbWDvpZElVZB14gVa6P0=; b=Vh58opmwdOFXQsrw4n0Kgi7trwG9NRa2ql1Tc5sT/moHLJPBx2ccMDF0R0nz9Mk6bB uZmF5htYv79OdLVoilcwjhl3vc+AYhMOAf7F41eT0dqWjpCkT68uIk0HHL9rzWpEdLI/ Ugft4HnTVYFEHD1gc16ClZs5EDj+UbrfuczooO9ZaisLaU0vi64MQpAkUo2CR8RKLGCR 1+l1WeRiIIgNbWpurGrtMxh5DPg5kHR2fWUcnLqssep+vOJxZUCl2iMklPg5PCCaSAIj eEUuTx8iEvmeixNh67TmmZE4vglF4DgjmsNn8S6MKwAjbzUB6sQlsKiBnmHLYPwucSkJ dGMA== X-Google-DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=1e100.net; s=20161025; h=x-gm-message-state:sender:from:to:cc:subject:references:date :in-reply-to:message-id:user-agent:mime-version; bh=DsOPWeLOa7Qxx6loZTZ6PQdmbWDvpZElVZB14gVa6P0=; b=b+pEfoqJPyMCltyLgnkyOlZRj2dP2oX+rgeN9kPwsnv2/Qnou4bDmY58QTCcxTt8or qV92gThXJgVQ6bKuBjmintzTKElw9LPPKI5l+aDSi+TgO7SbPzH+bCNt0j/eD+l9LdC5 e547ynTlMYQCXVXB/xUzjc+hg46EjhPa4duhgPli76/zMb1Oo5wfBiFhhYip9xVosrf/ esfA1kJ4rVlplcWHqcBfCEHfXY4WgE7Fr0elhhcvlMxErhnWvJH8jrjeBFy/sqPrb+bT 7G4w0nNCxx6TNCmQHyAaxbACrfUoPDZFbyidh8NXJZn7zK0ilZwH/YHd29iek0VCdYBC ZW2A== X-Gm-Message-State: AIkVDXLLy9cvr5e/odsJ5TwV6XQIR6UN5XU2/PKFA+Ysh9PasiiszGOYb14aNIb0p/z4qQ== X-Received: by 10.107.3.10 with SMTP id 10mr27753775iod.231.1484526410641; Sun, 15 Jan 2017 16:26:50 -0800 (PST) Received: from zony ([45.2.7.65]) by smtp.googlemail.com with ESMTPSA id u63sm5780629ioi.4.2017.01.15.16.26.49 (version=TLS1_2 cipher=ECDHE-RSA-CHACHA20-POLY1305 bits=256/256); Sun, 15 Jan 2017 16:26:50 -0800 (PST) From: npostavs@users.sourceforge.net References: <8760lndxlz.fsf@russet.org.uk> <83bmvfdk2r.fsf@gnu.org> <8737gqsqqr.fsf@russet.org.uk> <83ziiyda4y.fsf@gnu.org> <87inpj1288.fsf@russet.org.uk> <834m13caay.fsf@gnu.org> <87k29ylk8h.fsf@russet.org.uk> <87mvest1vz.fsf@russet.org.uk> <87h94zyj5s.fsf@users.sourceforge.net> <87fukj50lt.fsf@russet.org.uk> Date: Sun, 15 Jan 2017 19:27:56 -0500 In-Reply-To: <87fukj50lt.fsf@russet.org.uk> (Phillip Lord's message of "Mon, 16 Jan 2017 00:07:10 +0000") Message-ID: <87eg03yhkj.fsf@users.sourceforge.net> User-Agent: Gnus/5.13 (Gnus v5.13) Emacs/25.1 (gnu/linux) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain X-Spam-Score: -0.6 (/) X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18 Precedence: list List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Sender: "Debbugs-submit" X-Spam-Score: -0.6 (/) phillip.lord@russet.org.uk (Phillip Lord) writes: > npostavs@users.sourceforge.net writes: >>>> There's nothing special about hydra builds. I quote them only because >>>> they provide a convenient way to show a full, clean build log. >>>> >>>> The image-type-auto-detected-p issue persists, eg >>>> http://hydra.nixos.org/build/46502443/log/raw >>>> >>>> Note this is a without-x build (image-type-auto-detected-p used to be >>>> autoloaded in all builds). >>> >>> Unfortunately, I cannot reproduce this on my own machine. Exactly how is >>> the hydra build configured? I've tried --without-x, as a guess, but I >>> get no error. >> >> I can reproduce here. Did you just run 'make bootstrap' after >> reconfiguring? I think you need 'make extraclean', because the part >> that triggers this is not cleaned by bootstrap. > > To my understanding, make bootstrap is at least as clean as extraclean. I think extraclean does some more things, but actually it might not be relevant in this case. > > >> Using insert-file-contents instead of file-file-noselect seems to fix it >> for me: >> >> --- i/lisp/international/titdic-cnv.el >> +++ w/lisp/international/titdic-cnv.el >> @@ -1167,11 +1167,11 @@ miscdic-convert >> (if (eq coding 'iso-2022-cn-ext) "Chinese-CNS" >> "Chinese-GB")) >> "\" \"" title "\" t\n") >> - (let* ((coding-system-for-read >> - (coding-system-change-eol-conversion coding 'unix)) >> - (dicbuf (find-file-noselect filename))) >> - (funcall converter dicbuf name title) >> - (kill-buffer dicbuf)) >> + (let ((coding-system-for-read >> + (coding-system-change-eol-conversion coding 'unix))) >> + (with-temp-buffer >> + (insert-file-contents filename) >> + (funcall converter (current-buffer) name title))) >> (insert ";; Local Variables:\n" >> ";; version-control: never\n" >> ";; no-update-autoloads: t\n" > > Confused. What thing are you reproducing? The > "image-type-auto-detected-p" or File mode specification error: > (void-function html-mode) error? Here is the command I found was problematic during the build (I added the rm -f part, otherwise the file generation is skipped). cd /home/npostavs/src/emacs/emacs-bootstrapping/leim && rm -f ../lisp/leim/quail/tsang-b5.el ../lisp/leim/quail/quick-b5.el && EMACSLOADPATH= '../src/bootstrap-emacs' --batch --no-site-file --no-site-lisp -l titdic-cnv.el -f batch-miscdic-convert -dir ./../lisp/leim/quail MISC-DIC/cangjie-table.b5 Converting cangjie-table.b5 to tsang-b5.el... File mode specification error: (wrong-type-argument stringp image-type-auto-detected-p) Converting cangjie-table.b5 to tsang-b5.el...done Converting cangjie-table.b5 to quick-b5.el... File mode specification error: (wrong-type-argument stringp image-type-auto-detected-p) Converting cangjie-table.b5 to quick-b5.el...done The patch I posted fixes these errors. > The "find-file-noselect" call is responsible for the "html-mode" error, > but that should have been fixed with this commit. > > commit 72c668a9042ac6475eadedfee5c87fb1e6b2d753 > Author: Phillip Lord > Date: Fri Jan 13 13:57:51 2017 +0000 > > But this commit also stops the image-type-auto-detected-p errors for me. Does the following print something non-nil for you? For me it's nil when I configure --without-x, and a byte code function value otherwise. ./bootstrap-emacs -batch -Q --eval '(message "%S" (symbol-function (quote image-type-auto-detected-p)))' From unknown Mon Jun 23 00:36:20 2025 X-Loop: help-debbugs@gnu.org Subject: bug#25360: File mode specification errors during building Resent-From: Glenn Morris Original-Sender: "Debbugs-submit" Resent-CC: bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org Resent-Date: Tue, 17 Jan 2017 17:40:01 +0000 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-Sender: help-debbugs@gnu.org X-GNU-PR-Message: followup 25360 X-GNU-PR-Package: emacs X-GNU-PR-Keywords: To: phillip.lord@russet.org.uk (Phillip Lord) Cc: Eli Zaretskii , 25360@debbugs.gnu.org, npostavs@users.sourceforge.net Received: via spool by 25360-submit@debbugs.gnu.org id=B25360.148467477017516 (code B ref 25360); Tue, 17 Jan 2017 17:40:01 +0000 Received: (at 25360) by debbugs.gnu.org; 17 Jan 2017 17:39:30 +0000 Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:56650 helo=debbugs.gnu.org) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1cTXjG-0004YS-46 for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Tue, 17 Jan 2017 12:39:30 -0500 Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([208.118.235.92]:50856) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1cTXjF-0004YF-46 for 25360@debbugs.gnu.org; Tue, 17 Jan 2017 12:39:29 -0500 Received: from Debian-exim by eggs.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1cTXj9-0000L8-7u for 25360@debbugs.gnu.org; Tue, 17 Jan 2017 12:39:23 -0500 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.3.2 (2011-06-06) on eggs.gnu.org X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-5.1 required=5.0 tests=BAYES_00,RP_MATCHES_RCVD autolearn=disabled version=3.3.2 Received: from fencepost.gnu.org ([2001:4830:134:3::e]:40627) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1cTXi1-00086U-Ad; Tue, 17 Jan 2017 12:38:13 -0500 Received: from rgm by fencepost.gnu.org with local (Exim 4.82) (envelope-from ) id 1cTXhy-0007N8-D4; Tue, 17 Jan 2017 12:38:10 -0500 From: Glenn Morris References: <8760lndxlz.fsf@russet.org.uk> <83bmvfdk2r.fsf@gnu.org> <8737gqsqqr.fsf@russet.org.uk> <83ziiyda4y.fsf@gnu.org> <87inpj1288.fsf@russet.org.uk> <834m13caay.fsf@gnu.org> <87k29ylk8h.fsf@russet.org.uk> <87mvest1vz.fsf@russet.org.uk> <87h94zyj5s.fsf@users.sourceforge.net> <87fukj50lt.fsf@russet.org.uk> X-Spook: Trojan Suicide attack JUWTF DRM morse RSA Spammer JPL X-Ran: J+zJ(`,VJPO_s5.#|KWIKAX5E#mie+2Oy(!{`[r7RK-)%Ch@kyH`g,Xjto7=]rd&T[h0~} X-Hue: brightmagenta X-Attribution: GM Date: Tue, 17 Jan 2017 12:38:10 -0500 In-Reply-To: <87fukj50lt.fsf@russet.org.uk> (Phillip Lord's message of "Mon, 16 Jan 2017 00:07:10 +0000") Message-ID: User-Agent: Gnus (www.gnus.org), GNU Emacs (www.gnu.org/software/emacs/) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain X-detected-operating-system: by eggs.gnu.org: GNU/Linux 2.2.x-3.x [generic] X-Received-From: 2001:4830:134:3::e X-Spam-Score: -8.2 (--------) X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18 Precedence: list List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Sender: "Debbugs-submit" X-Spam-Score: -8.2 (--------) Phillip Lord wrote: > commit 72c668a9042ac6475eadedfee5c87fb1e6b2d753 > Author: Phillip Lord > Date: Fri Jan 13 13:57:51 2017 +0000 > > But this commit also stops the image-type-auto-detected-p errors for me. How can it, when it does not change anything related to image-type-auto-detected-p? From unknown Mon Jun 23 00:36:20 2025 X-Loop: help-debbugs@gnu.org Subject: bug#25360: File mode specification errors during building Resent-From: Glenn Morris Original-Sender: "Debbugs-submit" Resent-CC: bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org Resent-Date: Tue, 17 Jan 2017 17:44:01 +0000 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-Sender: help-debbugs@gnu.org X-GNU-PR-Message: followup 25360 X-GNU-PR-Package: emacs X-GNU-PR-Keywords: To: npostavs@users.sourceforge.net Cc: Eli Zaretskii , 25360@debbugs.gnu.org, Phillip Lord Received: via spool by 25360-submit@debbugs.gnu.org id=B25360.148467499517911 (code B ref 25360); Tue, 17 Jan 2017 17:44:01 +0000 Received: (at 25360) by debbugs.gnu.org; 17 Jan 2017 17:43:15 +0000 Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:56655 helo=debbugs.gnu.org) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1cTXmt-0004eo-Hz for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Tue, 17 Jan 2017 12:43:15 -0500 Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([208.118.235.92]:52840) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1cTXmr-0004eZ-Mn for 25360@debbugs.gnu.org; Tue, 17 Jan 2017 12:43:13 -0500 Received: from Debian-exim by eggs.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1cTXml-0002gL-Tl for 25360@debbugs.gnu.org; Tue, 17 Jan 2017 12:43:08 -0500 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.3.2 (2011-06-06) on eggs.gnu.org X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-3.7 required=5.0 tests=BAYES_05,RP_MATCHES_RCVD autolearn=disabled version=3.3.2 Received: from fencepost.gnu.org ([2001:4830:134:3::e]:40679) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1cTXls-0001uW-O6; Tue, 17 Jan 2017 12:42:12 -0500 Received: from rgm by fencepost.gnu.org with local (Exim 4.82) (envelope-from ) id 1cTXls-0007kv-1u; Tue, 17 Jan 2017 12:42:12 -0500 From: Glenn Morris References: <8760lndxlz.fsf@russet.org.uk> <83bmvfdk2r.fsf@gnu.org> <8737gqsqqr.fsf@russet.org.uk> <83ziiyda4y.fsf@gnu.org> <87inpj1288.fsf@russet.org.uk> <834m13caay.fsf@gnu.org> <87k29ylk8h.fsf@russet.org.uk> <87mvest1vz.fsf@russet.org.uk> <87h94zyj5s.fsf@users.sourceforge.net> X-Spook: Illegal immigrants Medco Screening MD2 Gunfight Cyber X-Ran: 9!uENIy9htHcD/9>J]<*h*[YG6FSieivz*5wI3f@y=L,K|[AJc=4$ng1#[[a0>d;3\6XH1 X-Hue: brightmagenta X-Attribution: GM Date: Tue, 17 Jan 2017 12:42:11 -0500 In-Reply-To: <87h94zyj5s.fsf@users.sourceforge.net> (npostavs@users.sourceforge.net's message of "Sun, 15 Jan 2017 18:53:35 -0500") Message-ID: <1760ldfurw.fsf@fencepost.gnu.org> User-Agent: Gnus (www.gnus.org), GNU Emacs (www.gnu.org/software/emacs/) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain X-detected-operating-system: by eggs.gnu.org: GNU/Linux 2.2.x-3.x [generic] X-Received-From: 2001:4830:134:3::e X-Spam-Score: -8.2 (--------) X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18 Precedence: list List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Sender: "Debbugs-submit" X-Spam-Score: -8.2 (--------) npostavs@users.sourceforge.net wrote: > Using insert-file-contents instead of file-file-noselect seems to fix it > for me: That sounds like a good change anyway. (I forget, does this respect "coding:"? Does this even matter in this case?) (But it still seems like a potential problem to me if functions that used to be available early in the build no longer are.) From unknown Mon Jun 23 00:36:20 2025 X-Loop: help-debbugs@gnu.org Subject: bug#25360: File mode specification errors during building Resent-From: phillip.lord@russet.org.uk (Phillip Lord) Original-Sender: "Debbugs-submit" Resent-CC: bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org Resent-Date: Tue, 17 Jan 2017 21:50:02 +0000 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-Sender: help-debbugs@gnu.org X-GNU-PR-Message: followup 25360 X-GNU-PR-Package: emacs X-GNU-PR-Keywords: To: Glenn Morris Cc: Eli Zaretskii , 25360@debbugs.gnu.org, npostavs@users.sourceforge.net Received: via spool by 25360-submit@debbugs.gnu.org id=B25360.148468975310092 (code B ref 25360); Tue, 17 Jan 2017 21:50:02 +0000 Received: (at 25360) by debbugs.gnu.org; 17 Jan 2017 21:49:13 +0000 Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:34123 helo=debbugs.gnu.org) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1cTbcu-0002ci-OS for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Tue, 17 Jan 2017 16:49:12 -0500 Received: from mailgw.mycpanelcloud.co.uk ([185.116.214.125]:61748) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1cTbcs-0002cZ-KV for 25360@debbugs.gnu.org; Tue, 17 Jan 2017 16:49:11 -0500 Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mailgw.mycpanelcloud.co.uk (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3714AC4F00 for <25360@debbugs.gnu.org>; Tue, 17 Jan 2017 21:48:46 +0000 (GMT) X-Virus-Scanned: by SpamTitan at mycpanelcloud.co.uk Received: from mailgw.mycpanelcloud.co.uk (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mailgw.mycpanelcloud.co.uk (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7C8D0C4DAF for <25360@debbugs.gnu.org>; Tue, 17 Jan 2017 21:48:44 +0000 (GMT) Received: from cloud103.planethippo.com (cloud103.planethippo.com [31.216.48.48]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES256-GCM-SHA384 (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by mailgw.mycpanelcloud.co.uk (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 704D7C4CD4 for <25360@debbugs.gnu.org>; Tue, 17 Jan 2017 21:48:44 +0000 (GMT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; q=dns/txt; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=russet.org.uk; s=default; h=Content-Type:MIME-Version:Message-ID: In-Reply-To:Date:References:Subject:Cc:To:From:Sender:Reply-To: Content-Transfer-Encoding:Content-ID:Content-Description:Resent-Date: Resent-From:Resent-Sender:Resent-To:Resent-Cc:Resent-Message-ID:List-Id: List-Help:List-Unsubscribe:List-Subscribe:List-Post:List-Owner:List-Archive; bh=Ev9KuE/BkK7yX7YIEnE5BVahdGcGLidAfkBzNdmYYd4=; b=pYlDP3HZdNPtDDUP6YS3GIXgj rnSOzHig8ql7uhyaOYdwqp/I7XQhsUju3khHImDnBEcnvoOVOink8mr4o+pLhXR0q0Fei5MJbq4bV hlXXWRFKU7vAYrvFcafSPZBREgxEZMXUBXt00zRyVG3tcoU/pzuyBnEH0VbPyvrz5AXpYdeB1UZ2S ii9s6jOH4L7xW6K8ZvGk9zVDPTfjsr4uKqdT1YOoDj/wp2Svuh6WQ+DnaxXpqRQOJu+M+Xu2FeNbA tikkwpJt7mP9Zl1zCcOzbH1sgjwTL70UMQCqty7SSOdUKxVHw6YHKG7azJ/WGi0sHHFYteH1yEXd4 GwzIyd+Og==; Received: from cpc6-benw10-2-0-cust167.gate.cable.virginm.net ([92.238.179.168]:52000 helo=russet.org.uk) by cloud103.planethippo.com with esmtpsa (TLSv1.2:ECDHE-RSA-AES128-GCM-SHA256:128) (Exim 4.87) (envelope-from ) id 1cTbco-000tst-V4; Tue, 17 Jan 2017 21:49:07 +0000 From: phillip.lord@russet.org.uk (Phillip Lord) References: <8760lndxlz.fsf@russet.org.uk> <83bmvfdk2r.fsf@gnu.org> <8737gqsqqr.fsf@russet.org.uk> <83ziiyda4y.fsf@gnu.org> <87inpj1288.fsf@russet.org.uk> <834m13caay.fsf@gnu.org> <87k29ylk8h.fsf@russet.org.uk> <87mvest1vz.fsf@russet.org.uk> <87h94zyj5s.fsf@users.sourceforge.net> <87fukj50lt.fsf@russet.org.uk> Date: Tue, 17 Jan 2017 21:49:04 +0000 In-Reply-To: (Glenn Morris's message of "Tue, 17 Jan 2017 12:38:10 -0500") Message-ID: <87o9z54asv.fsf@russet.org.uk> User-Agent: Gnus/5.13 (Gnus v5.13) Emacs/25.1.50 (gnu/linux) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain X-AntiAbuse: This header was added to track abuse, please include it with any abuse report X-AntiAbuse: Primary Hostname - cloud103.planethippo.com X-AntiAbuse: Original Domain - debbugs.gnu.org X-AntiAbuse: Originator/Caller UID/GID - [47 12] / [47 12] X-AntiAbuse: Sender Address Domain - russet.org.uk X-Get-Message-Sender-Via: cloud103.planethippo.com: authenticated_id: phillip.lord@russet.org.uk X-Authenticated-Sender: cloud103.planethippo.com: phillip.lord@russet.org.uk X-Spam-Score: 0.0 (/) X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18 Precedence: list List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Sender: "Debbugs-submit" X-Spam-Score: 0.0 (/) Glenn Morris writes: > Phillip Lord wrote: > >> commit 72c668a9042ac6475eadedfee5c87fb1e6b2d753 >> Author: Phillip Lord >> Date: Fri Jan 13 13:57:51 2017 +0000 >> >> But this commit also stops the image-type-auto-detected-p errors for me. > > How can it, when it does not change anything related to > image-type-auto-detected-p? Weird isn't it? Still, it's true. I don't know exactly what is happening but, I think, the root part of the problem comes from here in loadup.el. (if (fboundp 'x-create-frame) (progn (load "fringe") ;; Needed by `imagemagick-register-types' (load "emacs-lisp/regexp-opt") (load "image") (load "international/fontset") (load "dnd") (load "tool-bar"))) What this means, AFAICT, is that in a --with-x build, x-create-frame will exist, so image.el will be loaded and dumped. But, in a -without-x build it will not be, so it must, therefore, be autoloaded if it used. Phil From unknown Mon Jun 23 00:36:20 2025 X-Loop: help-debbugs@gnu.org Subject: bug#25360: File mode specification errors during building Resent-From: phillip.lord@russet.org.uk (Phillip Lord) Original-Sender: "Debbugs-submit" Resent-CC: bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org Resent-Date: Tue, 17 Jan 2017 22:05:01 +0000 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-Sender: help-debbugs@gnu.org X-GNU-PR-Message: followup 25360 X-GNU-PR-Package: emacs X-GNU-PR-Keywords: To: Glenn Morris Cc: Eli Zaretskii , 25360@debbugs.gnu.org, npostavs@users.sourceforge.net Received: via spool by 25360-submit@debbugs.gnu.org id=B25360.148469067311446 (code B ref 25360); Tue, 17 Jan 2017 22:05:01 +0000 Received: (at 25360) by debbugs.gnu.org; 17 Jan 2017 22:04:33 +0000 Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:34139 helo=debbugs.gnu.org) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1cTbrl-0002yY-5j for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Tue, 17 Jan 2017 17:04:33 -0500 Received: from mailgw.mycpanelcloud.co.uk ([185.116.214.213]:18239) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1cTbri-0002yJ-ED for 25360@debbugs.gnu.org; Tue, 17 Jan 2017 17:04:30 -0500 Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mailgw.mycpanelcloud.co.uk (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1BA39C4446 for <25360@debbugs.gnu.org>; Tue, 17 Jan 2017 22:04:02 +0000 (GMT) X-Virus-Scanned: by SpamTitan at mycpanelcloud.co.uk Received: from mailgw.mycpanelcloud.co.uk (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mailgw.mycpanelcloud.co.uk (Postfix) with ESMTP id B0B79C4E13 for <25360@debbugs.gnu.org>; Tue, 17 Jan 2017 22:04:00 +0000 (GMT) Received: from cloud103.planethippo.com (cloud103.planethippo.com [31.216.48.48]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES256-GCM-SHA384 (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by mailgw.mycpanelcloud.co.uk (Postfix) with ESMTPS id A2386C4CD4 for <25360@debbugs.gnu.org>; Tue, 17 Jan 2017 22:04:00 +0000 (GMT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; q=dns/txt; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=russet.org.uk; s=default; h=Content-Type:MIME-Version:Message-ID: In-Reply-To:Date:References:Subject:Cc:To:From:Sender:Reply-To: Content-Transfer-Encoding:Content-ID:Content-Description:Resent-Date: Resent-From:Resent-Sender:Resent-To:Resent-Cc:Resent-Message-ID:List-Id: List-Help:List-Unsubscribe:List-Subscribe:List-Post:List-Owner:List-Archive; bh=R4THeiop/iX1SpPcT3pmKFzHlwuAihANwOxxVU1fbW0=; b=aT9P92VCfIo04i48vP9s2kH67 2mIbXGu2Gv67hsX7b9NDu8z5nJEjcB8zEHj+XjTrmsLHBaaHN5QojIevXTvzw4GTShXbimdOEnDRn seM3nu0HilOBTqREwgkLaRtEpBIday4oKESR/1eSRLcBPS3LPOTHfAYoFmAegtYRko4btLKecuKE6 Vr6e+PSyxxWJ/Tmor60g5wEkyh0TeZIJVajoyRRAkdBT09kp2SgUr9q9OHTdYHhrytyW0SRNvRMhv hbZJXB5rySLItsBXAGL2cQcXdQHTWr5QzG3UJmNagGtk9hnVF/MficyQWg3gYxKbU8zC5Ww3i+KgA 159yhw9ig==; Received: from cpc6-benw10-2-0-cust167.gate.cable.virginm.net ([92.238.179.168]:52078 helo=russet.org.uk) by cloud103.planethippo.com with esmtpsa (TLSv1.2:ECDHE-RSA-AES128-GCM-SHA256:128) (Exim 4.87) (envelope-from ) id 1cTbra-000zAa-Mo; Tue, 17 Jan 2017 22:04:23 +0000 From: phillip.lord@russet.org.uk (Phillip Lord) References: <8760lndxlz.fsf@russet.org.uk> <83bmvfdk2r.fsf@gnu.org> <8737gqsqqr.fsf@russet.org.uk> <83ziiyda4y.fsf@gnu.org> <87inpj1288.fsf@russet.org.uk> <834m13caay.fsf@gnu.org> <87k29ylk8h.fsf@russet.org.uk> <87mvest1vz.fsf@russet.org.uk> <87h94zyj5s.fsf@users.sourceforge.net> <1760ldfurw.fsf@fencepost.gnu.org> Date: Tue, 17 Jan 2017 22:04:22 +0000 In-Reply-To: <1760ldfurw.fsf@fencepost.gnu.org> (Glenn Morris's message of "Tue, 17 Jan 2017 12:42:11 -0500") Message-ID: <87k29t4a3d.fsf@russet.org.uk> User-Agent: Gnus/5.13 (Gnus v5.13) Emacs/25.1.50 (gnu/linux) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="=-=-=" X-AntiAbuse: This header was added to track abuse, please include it with any abuse report X-AntiAbuse: Primary Hostname - cloud103.planethippo.com X-AntiAbuse: Original Domain - debbugs.gnu.org X-AntiAbuse: Originator/Caller UID/GID - [47 12] / [47 12] X-AntiAbuse: Sender Address Domain - russet.org.uk X-Get-Message-Sender-Via: cloud103.planethippo.com: authenticated_id: phillip.lord@russet.org.uk X-Authenticated-Sender: cloud103.planethippo.com: phillip.lord@russet.org.uk X-Spam-Score: 0.0 (/) X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18 Precedence: list List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Sender: "Debbugs-submit" X-Spam-Score: 0.0 (/) --=-=-= Content-Type: text/plain Glenn Morris writes: > npostavs@users.sourceforge.net wrote: > >> Using insert-file-contents instead of file-file-noselect seems to fix it >> for me: > > That sounds like a good change anyway. (I forget, does this respect > "coding:"? Does this even matter in this case?) I think, no, it doesn't respect coding, but that it doesn't matter. > > (But it still seems like a potential problem to me if functions that used to > be available early in the build no longer are.) It shouldn't be, if they are not being called. Anyway, the cause of the error in this case is this line in files.el. (assoc-default nil magic-fallback-mode-alist (lambda (re _dummy) (if (functionp re) (funcall re) (looking-at re))))))) This is called when loading cangjie-table.b5 with 'image-type-auto-detected-p as the first parameter. Normally, the condition returns "t", but in this case it will return f, then the looking-at form fails with the error given. I don't understand which this process does not happen during the build which generates ldefs-boot-auto.el. The bigger problem is that the bootstrap-emacs executable has different functionality compiled in, even when it does not require it to perform the task of bootstrapping. This might invalidate my approach, but I am not sure yet. The follow patch addresses, the problem at hand, though. --=-=-= Content-Type: text/x-diff Content-Disposition: inline; filename=0001-Fix-file-mode-errors-in-bootstrap.patch >From bed019eb18fbafffd397eaac7962e30428fe1e04 Mon Sep 17 00:00:00 2001 From: Phillip Lord Date: Mon, 16 Jan 2017 23:09:06 +0000 Subject: [PATCH] Fix file-mode errors in bootstrap. * lisp/files.el (set-auto-mode): Do not call `looking-at' on a symbol. * lisp/international/titdic-cnv.el (miscdic-convert): Use `insert-file-contents' rather than `find-file-noselect'. --- lisp/files.el | 28 ++++++++++++++++++++++------ lisp/international/titdic-cnv.el | 8 ++++---- 2 files changed, 26 insertions(+), 10 deletions(-) diff --git a/lisp/files.el b/lisp/files.el index b57e35b..e7b15a8 100644 --- a/lisp/files.el +++ b/lisp/files.el @@ -2911,9 +2911,18 @@ set-auto-mode (+ (point-min) magic-mode-regexp-match-limit))) (assoc-default nil magic-mode-alist (lambda (re _dummy) - (if (functionp re) - (funcall re) - (looking-at re))))))) + (cond + ;; Bug#25360 We might have a + ;; symbol which is not a + ;; function during bootstrap. + ((and + (symbolp re) + (functionp re)) + (funcall re)) + ((stringp re) + (looking-at re))) + (t (error "Problem with `magic-mode-alist'.")) + ))))) (set-auto-mode-0 done keep-mode-if-same))) ;; Next compare the filename against the entries in auto-mode-alist. (unless done @@ -2966,9 +2975,16 @@ set-auto-mode (+ (point-min) magic-mode-regexp-match-limit))) (assoc-default nil magic-fallback-mode-alist (lambda (re _dummy) - (if (functionp re) - (funcall re) - (looking-at re))))))) + ;; Bug#25360 We might have a + ;; symbol which is not a + ;; function during bootstrap. + (cond + ((functionp re) + (funcall re)) + ((stringp re) + (looking-at re)) + (t (error "Problem with `magic-fallback-mode-alist'.")) + )))))) (set-auto-mode-0 done keep-mode-if-same))) (unless done (set-buffer-major-mode (current-buffer))))) diff --git a/lisp/international/titdic-cnv.el b/lisp/international/titdic-cnv.el index 6f65d49..6986b3f 100644 --- a/lisp/international/titdic-cnv.el +++ b/lisp/international/titdic-cnv.el @@ -1168,10 +1168,10 @@ miscdic-convert "Chinese-GB")) "\" \"" title "\" t\n") (let* ((coding-system-for-read - (coding-system-change-eol-conversion coding 'unix)) - (dicbuf (find-file-noselect filename))) - (funcall converter dicbuf name title) - (kill-buffer dicbuf)) + (coding-system-change-eol-conversion coding 'unix))) + (with-temp-buffer + (insert-file-contents filename) + (funcall converter (current-buffer) name title))) (insert ";; Local Variables:\n" ";; version-control: never\n" ";; no-update-autoloads: t\n" -- 2.9.3 --=-=-=-- From unknown Mon Jun 23 00:36:20 2025 X-Loop: help-debbugs@gnu.org Subject: bug#25360: File mode specification errors during building Resent-From: npostavs@users.sourceforge.net Original-Sender: "Debbugs-submit" Resent-CC: bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org Resent-Date: Wed, 18 Jan 2017 01:11:02 +0000 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-Sender: help-debbugs@gnu.org X-GNU-PR-Message: followup 25360 X-GNU-PR-Package: emacs X-GNU-PR-Keywords: To: phillip.lord@russet.org.uk (Phillip Lord) Cc: Glenn Morris , Eli Zaretskii , 25360@debbugs.gnu.org Received: via spool by 25360-submit@debbugs.gnu.org id=B25360.148470185728404 (code B ref 25360); Wed, 18 Jan 2017 01:11:02 +0000 Received: (at 25360) by debbugs.gnu.org; 18 Jan 2017 01:10:57 +0000 Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:34177 helo=debbugs.gnu.org) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1cTem9-0007O4-7a for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Tue, 17 Jan 2017 20:10:57 -0500 Received: from mail-it0-f66.google.com ([209.85.214.66]:32797) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1cTem7-0007Ns-Np for 25360@debbugs.gnu.org; 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b=SQhukUe9h5Mwooc3VECdEvFR5lEw9r1U5dabpfRGesB8H/9q6UjvlKtL7Odc5Xtl/u UDbSESk7g9urUiLIEosqae0wMY3LotB2KBSSidREBBwBBfqt1Es7loSwd8n2xeGdGq6h lGjAzGvXT9Dk7z+d8OMpFfpPMOMZlZEe/0ftYHy22ytoI2CyWt5dM2AS0VcwsWZhGh4G 5Mvk9OlSFTL0di0dLZtDPNWlfmkbA5Y9OFxw1zP3qTF6AivmCwndEvB4cdL8i45ncEXx f+cegVhDYRebPhFgUKUKEcf3TvQ/vKzCwc5ixE4FT4QFuuRYRC9/YAI1koRY9o0Y00QD wV4g== X-Gm-Message-State: AIkVDXJ1WTSA7HXSnLSAJpyMa0VaMSEroJaiAWDwESJJAwqd6v2z/wq2xlQcSn0044CVIQ== X-Received: by 10.36.86.4 with SMTP id o4mr23392161itb.83.1484701850061; Tue, 17 Jan 2017 17:10:50 -0800 (PST) Received: from zony ([45.2.7.65]) by smtp.googlemail.com with ESMTPSA id f4sm164307ioa.18.2017.01.17.17.10.48 (version=TLS1_2 cipher=ECDHE-RSA-CHACHA20-POLY1305 bits=256/256); Tue, 17 Jan 2017 17:10:49 -0800 (PST) From: npostavs@users.sourceforge.net References: <8760lndxlz.fsf@russet.org.uk> <83bmvfdk2r.fsf@gnu.org> <8737gqsqqr.fsf@russet.org.uk> <83ziiyda4y.fsf@gnu.org> <87inpj1288.fsf@russet.org.uk> <834m13caay.fsf@gnu.org> <87k29ylk8h.fsf@russet.org.uk> <87mvest1vz.fsf@russet.org.uk> <87h94zyj5s.fsf@users.sourceforge.net> <1760ldfurw.fsf@fencepost.gnu.org> <87k29t4a3d.fsf@russet.org.uk> Date: Tue, 17 Jan 2017 20:11:45 -0500 In-Reply-To: <87k29t4a3d.fsf@russet.org.uk> (Phillip Lord's message of "Tue, 17 Jan 2017 22:04:22 +0000") Message-ID: <8737ghxjce.fsf@users.sourceforge.net> User-Agent: Gnus/5.13 (Gnus v5.13) Emacs/25.1 (gnu/linux) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-Spam-Score: 0.5 (/) X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18 Precedence: list List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Sender: "Debbugs-submit" X-Spam-Score: 0.5 (/) phillip.lord@russet.org.uk (Phillip Lord) writes: > Glenn Morris writes: > >> npostavs@users.sourceforge.net wrote: >> >>> Using insert-file-contents instead of file-file-noselect seems to fix it >>> for me: >> >> That sounds like a good change anyway. (I forget, does this respect >> "coding:"? Does this even matter in this case?) > > I think, no, it doesn't respect coding, but that it doesn't matter. I believe it does respect "coding:" in general (at least it looks like there are some comments to that effect in Finsert_file_contents), but indeed it doesn't matter in this case because we're let-binding `coding-system-for-read' which overrides that. > >> >> (But it still seems like a potential problem to me if functions that used to >> be available early in the build no longer are.) > > It shouldn't be, if they are not being called. > > Anyway, the cause of the error in this case is this line in files.el. > > (assoc-default nil magic-fallback-mode-alist > (lambda (re _dummy) > (if (functionp re) > (funcall re) > (looking-at re))))))) > > This is called when loading cangjie-table.b5 with > 'image-type-auto-detected-p as the first parameter. Normally, the > condition returns "t", but in this case it will return f, then > the looking-at form fails with the error given. I don't understand which > this process does not happen during the build which generates > ldefs-boot-auto.el. Would it help to use a --without-x build to generate ldefs-boot-auto.el? > + (t (error "Problem with `magic-mode-alist'.")) I'm not sure this improves the error message ("Problem" seems a bit vague). Before: Converting cangjie-table.b5 to tsang-b5.el... File mode specification error: (wrong-type-argument stringp image-type-auto-detected-p) Converting cangjie-table.b5 to tsang-b5.el...done After (applying only the lisp/files.el part of your patch): Converting cangjie-table.b5 to tsang-b5.el... File mode specification error: (error Problem with ¥magic-fallback-mode-alist¦.) Converting cangjie-table.b5 to tsang-b5.el...done Perhaps add in the problematic element to the message? Something along the lines of (error "Bad `magic-mode-alist' element: %S" re). From unknown Mon Jun 23 00:36:20 2025 X-Loop: help-debbugs@gnu.org Subject: bug#25360: File mode specification errors during building Resent-From: phillip.lord@russet.org.uk (Phillip Lord) Original-Sender: "Debbugs-submit" Resent-CC: bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org Resent-Date: Thu, 19 Jan 2017 10:47:01 +0000 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-Sender: help-debbugs@gnu.org X-GNU-PR-Message: followup 25360 X-GNU-PR-Package: emacs X-GNU-PR-Keywords: To: npostavs@users.sourceforge.net Cc: Glenn Morris , Eli Zaretskii , 25360@debbugs.gnu.org Received: via spool by 25360-submit@debbugs.gnu.org id=B25360.148482276514119 (code B ref 25360); Thu, 19 Jan 2017 10:47:01 +0000 Received: (at 25360) by debbugs.gnu.org; 19 Jan 2017 10:46:05 +0000 Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:35214 helo=debbugs.gnu.org) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1cUAEH-0003ff-0A for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Thu, 19 Jan 2017 05:46:05 -0500 Received: from mailgw.mycpanelcloud.co.uk ([185.116.214.205]:59889) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1cUAED-0003eu-T2 for 25360@debbugs.gnu.org; Thu, 19 Jan 2017 05:46:03 -0500 Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mailgw.mycpanelcloud.co.uk (Postfix) with ESMTP id C52D9C5F73 for <25360@debbugs.gnu.org>; Thu, 19 Jan 2017 10:45:32 +0000 (GMT) X-Virus-Scanned: by SpamTitan at mycpanelcloud.co.uk Received: from mailgw.mycpanelcloud.co.uk (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mailgw.mycpanelcloud.co.uk (Postfix) with ESMTP id D23FAC6067 for <25360@debbugs.gnu.org>; Thu, 19 Jan 2017 10:45:30 +0000 (GMT) Received: from cloud103.planethippo.com (cloud103.planethippo.com [31.216.48.48]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES256-GCM-SHA384 (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by mailgw.mycpanelcloud.co.uk (Postfix) with ESMTPS id BB603C5FA3 for <25360@debbugs.gnu.org>; Thu, 19 Jan 2017 10:45:30 +0000 (GMT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; q=dns/txt; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=russet.org.uk; s=default; h=Content-Transfer-Encoding:Content-Type: MIME-Version:Message-ID:In-Reply-To:Date:References:Subject:Cc:To:From:Sender :Reply-To:Content-ID:Content-Description:Resent-Date:Resent-From: Resent-Sender:Resent-To:Resent-Cc:Resent-Message-ID:List-Id:List-Help: List-Unsubscribe:List-Subscribe:List-Post:List-Owner:List-Archive; bh=pBwck2LQnxOEI971ezs9gqwkCXwFec6TC7BiVnUfNx8=; b=A4V29vuKUwejO+OPIzyl5wx+Mz vdeWSMw4uB4tHpZV1oEHnwjqnc2jF2y0zaA5mTCyFzfTdHX0VkWbIw6c0guCXzpF++CVLx1BbTYbU Fpv6sTM0yHt7alubx82nO58ct6+JJlNR5BzCDH9pCXvVl11s/xdsBphCEAP5YV6F6I1q594jLdEY1 woOQswwZBUGrjsXFKKC+uphCoa7Nc6Ip1Qn69MK7hHLLUzEJe60ALCGOsKIefeiRpZzqdFYzft0MR avu11bD46U+IXOnJ5KRrGnYy3rjbXZ/jgJhjW7WJNBUNVKHCfyPoCu0fr0xGetHFEsJgbuLENc1/h IL1N6sUg==; Received: from janus-nat-128-240-225-37.ncl.ac.uk ([128.240.225.37]:54321 helo=russet.org.uk) by cloud103.planethippo.com with esmtpsa (TLSv1.2:ECDHE-RSA-AES128-GCM-SHA256:128) (Exim 4.87) (envelope-from ) id 1cUAE5-0007Ft-CU; Thu, 19 Jan 2017 10:45:53 +0000 From: phillip.lord@russet.org.uk (Phillip Lord) References: <8760lndxlz.fsf@russet.org.uk> <83bmvfdk2r.fsf@gnu.org> <8737gqsqqr.fsf@russet.org.uk> <83ziiyda4y.fsf@gnu.org> <87inpj1288.fsf@russet.org.uk> <834m13caay.fsf@gnu.org> <87k29ylk8h.fsf@russet.org.uk> <87mvest1vz.fsf@russet.org.uk> <87h94zyj5s.fsf@users.sourceforge.net> <1760ldfurw.fsf@fencepost.gnu.org> <87k29t4a3d.fsf@russet.org.uk> <8737ghxjce.fsf@users.sourceforge.net> Date: Thu, 19 Jan 2017 10:45:51 +0000 In-Reply-To: <8737ghxjce.fsf@users.sourceforge.net> (npostavs@users.sourceforge.net's message of "Tue, 17 Jan 2017 20:11:45 -0500") Message-ID: <8737gf8h0g.fsf@russet.org.uk> User-Agent: Gnus/5.13 (Gnus v5.13) Emacs/25.1.91 (gnu/linux) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-AntiAbuse: This header was added to track abuse, please include it with any abuse report X-AntiAbuse: Primary Hostname - cloud103.planethippo.com X-AntiAbuse: Original Domain - debbugs.gnu.org X-AntiAbuse: Originator/Caller UID/GID - [47 12] / [47 12] X-AntiAbuse: Sender Address Domain - russet.org.uk X-Get-Message-Sender-Via: cloud103.planethippo.com: authenticated_id: phillip.lord@russet.org.uk X-Authenticated-Sender: cloud103.planethippo.com: phillip.lord@russet.org.uk X-Spam-Score: 0.0 (/) X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18 Precedence: list List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Sender: "Debbugs-submit" X-Spam-Score: 0.0 (/) npostavs@users.sourceforge.net writes: > phillip.lord@russet.org.uk (Phillip Lord) writes: > >> Glenn Morris writes: >> >>> npostavs@users.sourceforge.net wrote: >>> >>>> Using insert-file-contents instead of file-file-noselect seems to fix = it >>>> for me: >>> >>> That sounds like a good change anyway. (I forget, does this respect >>> "coding:"? Does this even matter in this case?) >> >> I think, no, it doesn't respect coding, but that it doesn't matter. > > I believe it does respect "coding:" in general (at least it looks like > there are some comments to that effect in Finsert_file_contents), but > indeed it doesn't matter in this case because we're let-binding > `coding-system-for-read' which overrides that. I have checked this now with a full bootstrap and it appears not to work, unfortunately -- the .el files that are generated are broken (this isn't obvious until they fail to byte-compile -- you have let the build complete). So, find-file-noselect is doing something that insert-file-contents is not. >>> (But it still seems like a potential problem to me if functions that us= ed to >>> be available early in the build no longer are.) >> >> It shouldn't be, if they are not being called. >> >> Anyway, the cause of the error in this case is this line in files.el. >> >> (assoc-default nil magic-fallback-mode-alist >> (lambda (re _dummy) >> (if (functionp re) >> (funcall re) >> (looking-at re))))))) >> >> This is called when loading cangjie-table.b5 with >> 'image-type-auto-detected-p as the first parameter. Normally, the >> condition returns "t", but in this case it will return f, then >> the looking-at form fails with the error given. I don't understand which >> this process does not happen during the build which generates >> ldefs-boot-auto.el. > > Would it help to use a --without-x build to generate ldefs-boot-auto.el? I'm a little loath to do this, because if a developer wants to run this, it will reconfigure their build. I've tried instead disabling all the "optional" statements in loadup.el when building the bootstrap binary. bootstrap-emacs doesn't use images or toolbars anyway. Will work up a patch tonight. > >> + (t (error "Problem with `magic-mode-alist'.")) > > I'm not sure this improves the error message ("Problem" seems a bit > vague). Before: > > Converting cangjie-table.b5 to tsang-b5.el... > File mode specification error: (wrong-type-argument stringp > image-type-auto-detected-p) > Converting cangjie-table.b5 to tsang-b5.el...done > > After (applying only the lisp/files.el part of your patch): > > Converting cangjie-table.b5 to tsang-b5.el... > File mode specification error: (error Problem with > =C2=A5magic-fallback-mode-alist=C2=A6.) > Converting cangjie-table.b5 to tsang-b5.el...done > > Perhaps add in the problematic element to the message? Something along > the lines of (error "Bad `magic-mode-alist' element: %S" re). Yes, realised I can't use backquotes in error messages. Your change is reasonable. In practice, I think, only developers are likely to see this, and either of these messages is grepable, unlike the wrong-type-argument message. Phil From unknown Mon Jun 23 00:36:20 2025 X-Loop: help-debbugs@gnu.org Subject: bug#25360: File mode specification errors during building Resent-From: Eli Zaretskii Original-Sender: "Debbugs-submit" Resent-CC: bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org Resent-Date: Thu, 19 Jan 2017 16:06:02 +0000 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-Sender: help-debbugs@gnu.org X-GNU-PR-Message: followup 25360 X-GNU-PR-Package: emacs X-GNU-PR-Keywords: To: phillip.lord@russet.org.uk (Phillip Lord) Cc: rgm@gnu.org, 25360@debbugs.gnu.org, npostavs@users.sourceforge.net Reply-To: Eli Zaretskii Received: via spool by 25360-submit@debbugs.gnu.org id=B25360.148484193525005 (code B ref 25360); Thu, 19 Jan 2017 16:06:02 +0000 Received: (at 25360) by debbugs.gnu.org; 19 Jan 2017 16:05:35 +0000 Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:35697 helo=debbugs.gnu.org) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1cUFDS-0006VF-Oh for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Thu, 19 Jan 2017 11:05:35 -0500 Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([208.118.235.92]:56587) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1cUFDQ-0006V1-5b for 25360@debbugs.gnu.org; Thu, 19 Jan 2017 11:05:32 -0500 Received: from Debian-exim by eggs.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1cUFDH-0007Bh-7p for 25360@debbugs.gnu.org; Thu, 19 Jan 2017 11:05:27 -0500 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.3.2 (2011-06-06) on eggs.gnu.org X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-3.2 required=5.0 tests=BAYES_40,RP_MATCHES_RCVD autolearn=disabled version=3.3.2 Received: from fencepost.gnu.org ([2001:4830:134:3::e]:44137) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1cUFDH-0007BW-56; Thu, 19 Jan 2017 11:05:23 -0500 Received: from 84.94.185.246.cable.012.net.il ([84.94.185.246]:3364 helo=home-c4e4a596f7) by fencepost.gnu.org with esmtpsa (TLS1.2:RSA_AES_256_CBC_SHA1:256) (Exim 4.82) (envelope-from ) id 1cUFDF-0001vY-HP; Thu, 19 Jan 2017 11:05:22 -0500 Date: Thu, 19 Jan 2017 18:05:07 +0200 Message-Id: <83k29r6nnw.fsf@gnu.org> From: Eli Zaretskii In-reply-to: <8737gf8h0g.fsf@russet.org.uk> (phillip.lord@russet.org.uk) References: <8760lndxlz.fsf@russet.org.uk> <83bmvfdk2r.fsf@gnu.org> <8737gqsqqr.fsf@russet.org.uk> <83ziiyda4y.fsf@gnu.org> <87inpj1288.fsf@russet.org.uk> <834m13caay.fsf@gnu.org> <87k29ylk8h.fsf@russet.org.uk> <87mvest1vz.fsf@russet.org.uk> <87h94zyj5s.fsf@users.sourceforge.net> <1760ldfurw.fsf@fencepost.gnu.org> <87k29t4a3d.fsf@russet.org.uk> <8737ghxjce.fsf@users.sourceforge.net> <8737gf8h0g.fsf@russet.org.uk> X-detected-operating-system: by eggs.gnu.org: GNU/Linux 2.2.x-3.x [generic] X-Received-From: 2001:4830:134:3::e X-Spam-Score: -8.2 (--------) X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18 Precedence: list List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Sender: "Debbugs-submit" X-Spam-Score: -8.2 (--------) > From: phillip.lord@russet.org.uk (Phillip Lord) > Cc: Glenn Morris , 25360@debbugs.gnu.org, Eli Zaretskii > Date: Thu, 19 Jan 2017 10:45:51 +0000 > > > I believe it does respect "coding:" in general (at least it looks like > > there are some comments to that effect in Finsert_file_contents), but > > indeed it doesn't matter in this case because we're let-binding > > `coding-system-for-read' which overrides that. > > I have checked this now with a full bootstrap and it appears not to > work, unfortunately -- the .el files that are generated are broken (this > isn't obvious until they fail to byte-compile -- you have let the build > complete). Every file is broken, or just some of them? If the latter, can you name some of them, or try to figure out what they have in common? From unknown Mon Jun 23 00:36:20 2025 X-Loop: help-debbugs@gnu.org Subject: bug#25360: File mode specification errors during building Resent-From: Noam Postavsky Original-Sender: "Debbugs-submit" Resent-CC: bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org Resent-Date: Thu, 19 Jan 2017 17:07:02 +0000 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-Sender: help-debbugs@gnu.org X-GNU-PR-Message: followup 25360 X-GNU-PR-Package: emacs X-GNU-PR-Keywords: To: Eli Zaretskii Cc: Glenn Morris , 25360@debbugs.gnu.org, Phillip Lord Received: via spool by 25360-submit@debbugs.gnu.org id=B25360.148484557630616 (code B ref 25360); Thu, 19 Jan 2017 17:07:02 +0000 Received: (at 25360) by debbugs.gnu.org; 19 Jan 2017 17:06:16 +0000 Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:35724 helo=debbugs.gnu.org) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1cUGAB-0007xj-Oj for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Thu, 19 Jan 2017 12:06:15 -0500 Received: from mail-oi0-f67.google.com ([209.85.218.67]:33973) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1cUGAA-0007xW-1G for 25360@debbugs.gnu.org; Thu, 19 Jan 2017 12:06:14 -0500 Received: by mail-oi0-f67.google.com with SMTP id w144so3672141oiw.1 for <25360@debbugs.gnu.org>; Thu, 19 Jan 2017 09:06:14 -0800 (PST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20161025; h=mime-version:sender:in-reply-to:references:from:date:message-id :subject:to:cc; bh=2iiXJROnA/XK9Qn46PVj75B0lX1EzXuImrX8lWNjYnw=; b=dThpSYu0Mdh9Lvx2vnUzNtekSZf/zKLwVKklIFYUOyuyaT16bn94n6lRgpSyd+Wrk+ Ss1rcAJrHrHtZRlBorBQ4texRekqEaS5DWfI4ZWLmUgYlozqDNAmOJ/hk287gT1YFKlT bZ5IZXY9d9MqNnv/mXlXTN1pwzI+asvxnOiBCqx6Xx07E2yzZU+Nfc4BBpMvmthcLN6C hw5B1fxvSq1FhC0EQkK+PPc65MWB2Bb5agDO28MLP8ty8GUao+wYd0I7N8QOIQCrgWpA IC4YnIss5pz3b6zCx8yTebGEwK/+p1AKkvWsjx7sEuOnia6nT1jV8NQgpmDXmONizJFE a8jw== X-Google-DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=1e100.net; s=20161025; h=x-gm-message-state:mime-version:sender:in-reply-to:references:from :date:message-id:subject:to:cc; bh=2iiXJROnA/XK9Qn46PVj75B0lX1EzXuImrX8lWNjYnw=; b=oatjmwiJ3LyHkWcjQx54+KOlHUYO2DiQrR1GLWRBr3LiXP/fHofySAjwOjpd9YXUCC Juc4VKCeNwtvawBCeE/5GDLJyS7z73JxoYiG0ls9c60qE2lVIMhg13HlyidcgBRC4SXk 5Px/4ZjQLYcthnJ/1KNdz/6VzJSGykzrKlAQgI+L0qa4OPp58sc8UlCN5eMTVLxwUkcT DPTwscQ0Rx7hh1dfQElyAS60a+laKRmznmOlPXpmNsm852xJWlAv1F+V5mYeXOpaAUKu T37HGFi1tY2AaXXzq3J1cKKRC8pQvLRL8IixZWexQ56A4Ue1kEDVALURhB4EdpF5+t7f PzLA== X-Gm-Message-State: AIkVDXIfsgibC8cbCQ17D3EamRFpdcz6xMUKPM/1ef2jbz3aJWSKEPF9vhzBng8X3DKESdlzdf1BcQUSrtnf9g== X-Received: by 10.202.214.130 with SMTP id n124mr4527843oig.70.1484845568244; Thu, 19 Jan 2017 09:06:08 -0800 (PST) MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.157.21.117 with HTTP; Thu, 19 Jan 2017 09:06:07 -0800 (PST) In-Reply-To: <83k29r6nnw.fsf@gnu.org> References: <8760lndxlz.fsf@russet.org.uk> <83bmvfdk2r.fsf@gnu.org> <8737gqsqqr.fsf@russet.org.uk> <83ziiyda4y.fsf@gnu.org> <87inpj1288.fsf@russet.org.uk> <834m13caay.fsf@gnu.org> <87k29ylk8h.fsf@russet.org.uk> <87mvest1vz.fsf@russet.org.uk> <87h94zyj5s.fsf@users.sourceforge.net> <1760ldfurw.fsf@fencepost.gnu.org> <87k29t4a3d.fsf@russet.org.uk> <8737ghxjce.fsf@users.sourceforge.net> <8737gf8h0g.fsf@russet.org.uk> <83k29r6nnw.fsf@gnu.org> From: Noam Postavsky Date: Thu, 19 Jan 2017 12:06:07 -0500 X-Google-Sender-Auth: 1HYGrnHZULUadctkg7DQTPo2t-A Message-ID: Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary=001a113def4ea466fb0546758c2f X-Spam-Score: 0.5 (/) X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18 Precedence: list List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Sender: "Debbugs-submit" X-Spam-Score: 0.5 (/) --001a113def4ea466fb0546758c2f Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 On Thu, Jan 19, 2017 at 11:05 AM, Eli Zaretskii wrote: >> From: phillip.lord@russet.org.uk (Phillip Lord) >> Cc: Glenn Morris , 25360@debbugs.gnu.org, Eli Zaretskii >> Date: Thu, 19 Jan 2017 10:45:51 +0000 >> >> > I believe it does respect "coding:" in general (at least it looks like >> > there are some comments to that effect in Finsert_file_contents), but >> > indeed it doesn't matter in this case because we're let-binding >> > `coding-system-for-read' which overrides that. >> >> I have checked this now with a full bootstrap and it appears not to >> work, unfortunately -- the .el files that are generated are broken (this >> isn't obvious until they fail to byte-compile -- you have let the build >> complete). > > Every file is broken, or just some of them? If the latter, can you > name some of them, or try to figure out what they have in common? The problem is that (with-temp-buffer) changes the current buffer, which the converter function expected to be set to the output file (sorry for not checking this properly before). 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Fri, 20 Jan 2017 13:43:45 +0000 From: phillip.lord@russet.org.uk (Phillip Lord) References: <8760lndxlz.fsf@russet.org.uk> <83bmvfdk2r.fsf@gnu.org> <8737gqsqqr.fsf@russet.org.uk> <83ziiyda4y.fsf@gnu.org> <87inpj1288.fsf@russet.org.uk> <834m13caay.fsf@gnu.org> <87k29ylk8h.fsf@russet.org.uk> <87mvest1vz.fsf@russet.org.uk> <87h94zyj5s.fsf@users.sourceforge.net> <1760ldfurw.fsf@fencepost.gnu.org> <87k29t4a3d.fsf@russet.org.uk> <8737ghxjce.fsf@users.sourceforge.net> <8737gf8h0g.fsf@russet.org.uk> <83k29r6nnw.fsf@gnu.org> Date: Fri, 20 Jan 2017 13:43:44 +0000 In-Reply-To: (Noam Postavsky's message of "Thu, 19 Jan 2017 12:06:07 -0500") Message-ID: <87ziilaltb.fsf@russet.org.uk> User-Agent: Gnus/5.13 (Gnus v5.13) Emacs/25.1.91 (gnu/linux) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain X-AntiAbuse: This header was added to track abuse, please include it with any abuse report X-AntiAbuse: Primary Hostname - cloud103.planethippo.com X-AntiAbuse: Original Domain - debbugs.gnu.org X-AntiAbuse: Originator/Caller UID/GID - [47 12] / [47 12] X-AntiAbuse: Sender Address Domain - russet.org.uk X-Get-Message-Sender-Via: cloud103.planethippo.com: authenticated_id: phillip.lord@russet.org.uk X-Authenticated-Sender: cloud103.planethippo.com: phillip.lord@russet.org.uk X-Spam-Score: 0.0 (/) X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18 Precedence: list List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Sender: "Debbugs-submit" X-Spam-Score: 0.0 (/) Noam Postavsky writes: > On Thu, Jan 19, 2017 at 11:05 AM, Eli Zaretskii wrote: >>> From: phillip.lord@russet.org.uk (Phillip Lord) >>> Cc: Glenn Morris , 25360@debbugs.gnu.org, Eli Zaretskii >>> Date: Thu, 19 Jan 2017 10:45:51 +0000 >>> >>> > I believe it does respect "coding:" in general (at least it looks like >>> > there are some comments to that effect in Finsert_file_contents), but >>> > indeed it doesn't matter in this case because we're let-binding >>> > `coding-system-for-read' which overrides that. >>> >>> I have checked this now with a full bootstrap and it appears not to >>> work, unfortunately -- the .el files that are generated are broken (this >>> isn't obvious until they fail to byte-compile -- you have let the build >>> complete). >> >> Every file is broken, or just some of them? If the latter, can you >> name some of them, or try to figure out what they have in common? > > The problem is that (with-temp-buffer) changes the current buffer, > which the converter function expected to be set to the output file > (sorry for not checking this properly before). Attached is a > non-broken version of my previous patch. Ah, yes, you are right. Nothing to do with insert-file-contents at all. Entirely obvious in hindsight, but then isn't it always. Phil From unknown Mon Jun 23 00:36:20 2025 X-Loop: help-debbugs@gnu.org Subject: bug#25360: File mode specification errors during building Resent-From: phillip.lord@russet.org.uk (Phillip Lord) Original-Sender: "Debbugs-submit" Resent-CC: bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org Resent-Date: Sat, 21 Jan 2017 21:12:01 +0000 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-Sender: help-debbugs@gnu.org X-GNU-PR-Message: followup 25360 X-GNU-PR-Package: emacs X-GNU-PR-Keywords: To: Noam Postavsky Cc: Glenn Morris , Eli Zaretskii , 25360@debbugs.gnu.org Received: via spool by 25360-submit@debbugs.gnu.org id=B25360.14850331079204 (code B ref 25360); Sat, 21 Jan 2017 21:12:01 +0000 Received: (at 25360) by debbugs.gnu.org; 21 Jan 2017 21:11:47 +0000 Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:37774 helo=debbugs.gnu.org) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1cV2wt-0002OO-4g for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Sat, 21 Jan 2017 16:11:47 -0500 Received: from mailgw.mycpanelcloud.co.uk ([185.116.214.205]:40531) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1cV2wr-0002OA-06 for 25360@debbugs.gnu.org; Sat, 21 Jan 2017 16:11:45 -0500 Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mailgw.mycpanelcloud.co.uk (Postfix) with ESMTP id BA87CC6067 for <25360@debbugs.gnu.org>; Sat, 21 Jan 2017 21:11:14 +0000 (GMT) X-Virus-Scanned: by SpamTitan at mycpanelcloud.co.uk Received: from mailgw.mycpanelcloud.co.uk (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mailgw.mycpanelcloud.co.uk (Postfix) with ESMTP id 97B2FC5FCA for <25360@debbugs.gnu.org>; Sat, 21 Jan 2017 21:11:13 +0000 (GMT) Received: from cloud103.planethippo.com (cloud103.planethippo.com [31.216.48.48]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES256-GCM-SHA384 (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by mailgw.mycpanelcloud.co.uk (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 88986C5F31 for <25360@debbugs.gnu.org>; Sat, 21 Jan 2017 21:11:13 +0000 (GMT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; q=dns/txt; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=russet.org.uk; s=default; h=Content-Type:MIME-Version:References:Message-ID :Date:In-Reply-To:Subject:Cc:To:From:Sender:Reply-To: Content-Transfer-Encoding:Content-ID:Content-Description:Resent-Date: Resent-From:Resent-Sender:Resent-To:Resent-Cc:Resent-Message-ID:List-Id: List-Help:List-Unsubscribe:List-Subscribe:List-Post:List-Owner:List-Archive; bh=qiAB8GAhUKwffbz/uvx92xBgjZzJA6ItONSbjH7E/Os=; b=JqU7Hy/OMbz4BHBYAVKop75sk OqMZvNNhWzwhGaNLm0B+/Y36sgPoUBI2DoO0uYcxqptVMBAwMo9gcelOFYJ4QIw39RM8IICQFZRkW BAM/PzXxTj1uWsgYb4Z2AO9vDsGjCDtP5Jo8guwsS3G3j7lQUHBTAa5z7opPnuxbcuAqBXRRC0DvJ ZllGonu9krc2GC9IU8CDPThOiX1v2wD6L16vPT12uaGcoxpHXsdvF8ojs67hjQ5OzCCmVtHM6SC9Y 332fpT9HzGxVd3iCrAkVTCUL1pYXLX27nb3N4jZiHorid52ubxMlb3vbNZ4Sxaay9tUh1W3KDIrRQ p3/h9dd/A==; Received: from host-92-26-223-214.as13285.net ([92.26.223.214]:37662 helo=russet.org.uk) by cloud103.planethippo.com with esmtpsa (TLSv1.2:ECDHE-RSA-AES128-GCM-SHA256:128) (Exim 4.87) (envelope-from ) id 1cV2wi-001xDD-DU; Sat, 21 Jan 2017 21:11:36 +0000 From: phillip.lord@russet.org.uk (Phillip Lord) In-Reply-To: (Noam Postavsky's message of "Thu, 19 Jan 2017 12:06:07 -0500") Date: Sat, 21 Jan 2017 21:11:30 +0000 Message-ID: <87lgu4qfst.fsf@russet.org.uk> References: <8760lndxlz.fsf@russet.org.uk> <83bmvfdk2r.fsf@gnu.org> <8737gqsqqr.fsf@russet.org.uk> <83ziiyda4y.fsf@gnu.org> <87inpj1288.fsf@russet.org.uk> <834m13caay.fsf@gnu.org> <87k29ylk8h.fsf@russet.org.uk> <87mvest1vz.fsf@russet.org.uk> <87h94zyj5s.fsf@users.sourceforge.net> <1760ldfurw.fsf@fencepost.gnu.org> <87k29t4a3d.fsf@russet.org.uk> <8737ghxjce.fsf@users.sourceforge.net> <8737gf8h0g.fsf@russet.org.uk> <83k29r6nnw.fsf@gnu.org> User-Agent: Gnus/5.13 (Gnus v5.13) Emacs/25.1.50 (gnu/linux) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain X-AntiAbuse: This header was added to track abuse, please include it with any abuse report X-AntiAbuse: Primary Hostname - cloud103.planethippo.com X-AntiAbuse: Original Domain - debbugs.gnu.org X-AntiAbuse: Originator/Caller UID/GID - [47 12] / [47 12] X-AntiAbuse: Sender Address Domain - russet.org.uk X-Get-Message-Sender-Via: cloud103.planethippo.com: authenticated_id: phillip.lord@russet.org.uk X-Authenticated-Sender: cloud103.planethippo.com: phillip.lord@russet.org.uk X-Spam-Score: 0.0 (/) X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18 Precedence: list List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Sender: "Debbugs-submit" X-Spam-Score: 0.0 (/) I've pushed three commits to fix/bootstrap-build-minimize which should solve all of the problems. titdic-cnv no longer uses find-file (which causes the errors), the functions in bootstrap-emacs have been minimized so that it should be indentical on all platforms (which, ironically, increases the size of ldefs-boot-auto), and I've added error-detection to files.el. I need to build this on windows, and if anyone else has the time to do a bootstrap build that would be good. Phil From unknown Mon Jun 23 00:36:20 2025 X-Loop: help-debbugs@gnu.org Subject: bug#25360: File mode specification errors during building Resent-From: phillip.lord@russet.org.uk (Phillip Lord) Original-Sender: "Debbugs-submit" Resent-CC: bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org Resent-Date: Mon, 23 Jan 2017 12:46:02 +0000 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-Sender: help-debbugs@gnu.org X-GNU-PR-Message: followup 25360 X-GNU-PR-Package: emacs X-GNU-PR-Keywords: To: Noam Postavsky Cc: 25360@debbugs.gnu.org Received: via spool by 25360-submit@debbugs.gnu.org id=B25360.148517551121009 (code B ref 25360); Mon, 23 Jan 2017 12:46:02 +0000 Received: (at 25360) by debbugs.gnu.org; 23 Jan 2017 12:45:11 +0000 Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:38736 helo=debbugs.gnu.org) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1cVdzi-0005Sn-Po for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Mon, 23 Jan 2017 07:45:10 -0500 Received: from mailgw.mycpanelcloud.co.uk ([185.116.214.125]:24049) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1cVdzg-0005Se-QM for 25360@debbugs.gnu.org; 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The final version of this is on fix/bootstrap-build-minimize-squash, tested on windows and gnu/linux. Comments welcome or I'll push this to master tomorrow. Phil From unknown Mon Jun 23 00:36:20 2025 X-Loop: help-debbugs@gnu.org Subject: bug#25360: File mode specification errors during building Resent-From: npostavs@users.sourceforge.net Original-Sender: "Debbugs-submit" Resent-CC: bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org Resent-Date: Mon, 23 Jan 2017 14:16:02 +0000 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-Sender: help-debbugs@gnu.org X-GNU-PR-Message: followup 25360 X-GNU-PR-Package: emacs X-GNU-PR-Keywords: To: phillip.lord@russet.org.uk (Phillip Lord) Cc: 25360@debbugs.gnu.org Received: via spool by 25360-submit@debbugs.gnu.org id=B25360.148518093629426 (code B ref 25360); Mon, 23 Jan 2017 14:16:02 +0000 Received: (at 25360) by debbugs.gnu.org; 23 Jan 2017 14:15:36 +0000 Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:38837 helo=debbugs.gnu.org) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1cVfPD-0007eY-Qz for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Mon, 23 Jan 2017 09:15:35 -0500 Received: from mail-it0-f47.google.com ([209.85.214.47]:36333) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1cVfPC-0007eL-P2 for 25360@debbugs.gnu.org; Mon, 23 Jan 2017 09:15:35 -0500 Received: by mail-it0-f47.google.com with SMTP id c7so63432338itd.1 for <25360@debbugs.gnu.org>; Mon, 23 Jan 2017 06:15:34 -0800 (PST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20161025; h=sender:from:to:cc:subject:references:date:in-reply-to:message-id :user-agent:mime-version; bh=BCQwP3adIPz01qzHC4q8zIiI0CmrtO10Ocpu/gZmI1Y=; b=hYG3y3mOephMDSzoctgccr112fLel6QkwHtC2Cm+9GGn+PhuQr/xLOwrvSKBxUS9Sd Pz6MT+w392AEg1IhZWufwiNtORb5vg33SHkDfE6XGXhR14et/oYsmuBU4JM4hJ2m6SpK UanvDGKH9kxUOa95zCg1HxJCRkiaQVaDd/FUiIahZ8kChHJD9m9jbmTsYh43uFIFz+1q 367SuvzRa/2BGxyEdjJXBIBDR28cpB7vkaqFJZYOEDfDZ7r4LgG3fy8zv95CZJ6tC9XL ngQD25ZgIVs2kxun435Mdh6htE9/aBaE4fMgRH1Sh7Ts/sNt8VvWe5RMagHjE1alK4hF jfnA== X-Google-DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=1e100.net; s=20161025; h=x-gm-message-state:sender:from:to:cc:subject:references:date :in-reply-to:message-id:user-agent:mime-version; bh=BCQwP3adIPz01qzHC4q8zIiI0CmrtO10Ocpu/gZmI1Y=; b=WZ+ZjLhsV9uwDUrWQdvzts7h72VgCRGuJaPi2xtFcEmpRIUtKxscDsxnrfiTffkJOp CEOqFgY7fpnhd2nQdgEvOOGmbDogxgKHIGRI4+qX3C0N0zHCUEMAdNGZkQwJyn6SbIxt 41zsWy9kO9Lm7Z+uBXx4JxQacdni6LpInvJRjhiY+Bt8PN3+GBrjCO9hsDCDDcBAHpmS 2S+mxdWL1C2AUf7H3Li6qwEqsobbVZtjqnHTB6g18+hY564ODg83zHNYaHgsR8VWopPp e79L6v6iH+rty0OI4KBhgHl0r7WReVImE7jxnRByVz4lYZ+T2C2iCLlltQXdNAa85YHV JCeg== X-Gm-Message-State: AIkVDXJOzJkPMxKrslwipZqftL5+Gdnr45rGks52UmP5ixCvfHFccclJ36WzzTlqeX8C8A== X-Received: by 10.36.252.197 with SMTP id b188mr14588474ith.53.1485180928952; Mon, 23 Jan 2017 06:15:28 -0800 (PST) Received: from zony ([45.2.7.65]) by smtp.googlemail.com with ESMTPSA id f42sm9582396ioj.35.2017.01.23.06.15.27 (version=TLS1_2 cipher=ECDHE-RSA-CHACHA20-POLY1305 bits=256/256); Mon, 23 Jan 2017 06:15:28 -0800 (PST) From: npostavs@users.sourceforge.net References: <8760lndxlz.fsf@russet.org.uk> <83bmvfdk2r.fsf@gnu.org> <8737gqsqqr.fsf@russet.org.uk> <83ziiyda4y.fsf@gnu.org> <87inpj1288.fsf@russet.org.uk> <834m13caay.fsf@gnu.org> <87k29ylk8h.fsf@russet.org.uk> <87mvest1vz.fsf@russet.org.uk> <87h94zyj5s.fsf@users.sourceforge.net> <1760ldfurw.fsf@fencepost.gnu.org> <87k29t4a3d.fsf@russet.org.uk> <8737ghxjce.fsf@users.sourceforge.net> <8737gf8h0g.fsf@russet.org.uk> <83k29r6nnw.fsf@gnu.org> <87lgu4qfst.fsf@russet.org.uk> <874m0q7xo6.fsf@russet.org.uk> Date: Mon, 23 Jan 2017 09:16:34 -0500 In-Reply-To: <874m0q7xo6.fsf@russet.org.uk> (Phillip Lord's message of "Mon, 23 Jan 2017 12:44:57 +0000") Message-ID: <87d1fdvp31.fsf@users.sourceforge.net> User-Agent: Gnus/5.13 (Gnus v5.13) Emacs/25.1 (gnu/linux) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain X-Spam-Score: -0.2 (/) X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18 Precedence: list List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Sender: "Debbugs-submit" X-Spam-Score: -0.2 (/) phillip.lord@russet.org.uk (Phillip Lord) writes: > phillip.lord@russet.org.uk (Phillip Lord) writes: > >> I've pushed three commits to fix/bootstrap-build-minimize which should >> solve all of the problems. titdic-cnv no longer uses find-file (which >> causes the errors), the functions in bootstrap-emacs have been minimized >> so that it should be indentical on all platforms (which, ironically, >> increases the size of ldefs-boot-auto), and I've added error-detection >> to files.el. >> >> I need to build this on windows, and if anyone else has the time to do a >> bootstrap build that would be good. > > The final version of this is on fix/bootstrap-build-minimize-squash, > tested on windows and gnu/linux. Comments welcome or I'll push this to > master tomorrow. Just a few minor formatting things: > Remove conditional includes from bootstrap > > * lisp/loadup.el: No longer load optional includes during bootstrap > dumping. > * lisp/ldefs-boot-auto.el: Regenerate. > * lisp/ldefs-boot-manual.el: Add two autoloads. > > Previously, bootstrap-emacs includes optional functionality, depending > on the platform which is not needed for bootstrap function. As a result, > bootstrap-emacs contains different functions in different > circumstances. If ldefs-boot-auto.el is generated, then loaded functions > will not be added to ldefs-boot-auto.el, although they may be required > during some builds. With this change, bootstrap-emacs should always > behave the same way and, therefore, require the same autoloads. Sentences should end in double space, and summary should before ChangeLog entry. > +;; These two autoloads are needed for files.el. They are only used on > +;; their respective platforms so do not get added to > +;; ldefs-boot-auto.el when it is generated on a different platform. > +(autoload 'dos-convert-standard-filename "dos-fns.el" nil nil nil) > +(autoload ' w32-convert-standard-filename "w32-fns.el" nil nil nil) Extra space here. In the last commit, "Add error handling to magic-mode-alist": > + (t > + (error > + "Problem in magic-mode-alist with element %s" re)) > + )))))) The close paren placement looks odd. From unknown Mon Jun 23 00:36:20 2025 X-Loop: help-debbugs@gnu.org Subject: bug#25360: File mode specification errors during building Resent-From: Eli Zaretskii Original-Sender: "Debbugs-submit" Resent-CC: bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org Resent-Date: Mon, 23 Jan 2017 15:40:02 +0000 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-Sender: help-debbugs@gnu.org X-GNU-PR-Message: followup 25360 X-GNU-PR-Package: emacs X-GNU-PR-Keywords: To: phillip.lord@russet.org.uk (Phillip Lord) Cc: 25360@debbugs.gnu.org, npostavs@users.sourceforge.net Reply-To: Eli Zaretskii Received: via spool by 25360-submit@debbugs.gnu.org id=B25360.14851859564892 (code B ref 25360); Mon, 23 Jan 2017 15:40:02 +0000 Received: (at 25360) by debbugs.gnu.org; 23 Jan 2017 15:39:16 +0000 Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:39278 helo=debbugs.gnu.org) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1cVgiC-0001Gq-DJ for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Mon, 23 Jan 2017 10:39:16 -0500 Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([208.118.235.92]:39835) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1cVgiA-0001Ge-CA for 25360@debbugs.gnu.org; Mon, 23 Jan 2017 10:39:14 -0500 Received: from Debian-exim by eggs.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1cVgi0-0000Vv-GZ for 25360@debbugs.gnu.org; Mon, 23 Jan 2017 10:39:09 -0500 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.3.2 (2011-06-06) on eggs.gnu.org X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-3.7 required=5.0 tests=BAYES_05,RP_MATCHES_RCVD autolearn=disabled version=3.3.2 Received: from fencepost.gnu.org ([2001:4830:134:3::e]:55771) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1cVgi0-0000Vn-Dd; Mon, 23 Jan 2017 10:39:04 -0500 Received: from 84.94.185.246.cable.012.net.il ([84.94.185.246]:4564 helo=home-c4e4a596f7) by fencepost.gnu.org with esmtpsa (TLS1.2:RSA_AES_256_CBC_SHA1:256) (Exim 4.82) (envelope-from ) id 1cVghz-0005U0-IS; Mon, 23 Jan 2017 10:39:04 -0500 Date: Mon, 23 Jan 2017 17:38:59 +0200 Message-Id: <83a8ah4wh8.fsf@gnu.org> From: Eli Zaretskii In-reply-to: <874m0q7xo6.fsf@russet.org.uk> (phillip.lord@russet.org.uk) References: <8760lndxlz.fsf@russet.org.uk> <83bmvfdk2r.fsf@gnu.org> <8737gqsqqr.fsf@russet.org.uk> <83ziiyda4y.fsf@gnu.org> <87inpj1288.fsf@russet.org.uk> <834m13caay.fsf@gnu.org> <87k29ylk8h.fsf@russet.org.uk> <87mvest1vz.fsf@russet.org.uk> <87h94zyj5s.fsf@users.sourceforge.net> <1760ldfurw.fsf@fencepost.gnu.org> <87k29t4a3d.fsf@russet.org.uk> <8737ghxjce.fsf@users.sourceforge.net> <8737gf8h0g.fsf@russet.org.uk> <83k29r6nnw.fsf@gnu.org> <87lgu4qfst.fsf@russet.org.uk> <874m0q7xo6.fsf@russet.org.uk> X-detected-operating-system: by eggs.gnu.org: GNU/Linux 2.2.x-3.x [generic] X-Received-From: 2001:4830:134:3::e X-Spam-Score: -8.2 (--------) X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18 Precedence: list List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Sender: "Debbugs-submit" X-Spam-Score: -8.2 (--------) > From: phillip.lord@russet.org.uk (Phillip Lord) > Date: Mon, 23 Jan 2017 12:44:57 +0000 > Cc: 25360@debbugs.gnu.org > > The final version of this is on fix/bootstrap-build-minimize-squash, > tested on windows and gnu/linux. Comments welcome or I'll push this to > master tomorrow. Thanks, but please leave more time for people to comment; one day is not enough. At least one week, or, better, two, should be reserved for that. From unknown Mon Jun 23 00:36:20 2025 X-Loop: help-debbugs@gnu.org Subject: bug#25360: File mode specification errors during building Resent-From: phillip.lord@russet.org.uk (Phillip Lord) Original-Sender: "Debbugs-submit" Resent-CC: bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org Resent-Date: Tue, 24 Jan 2017 12:43:01 +0000 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-Sender: help-debbugs@gnu.org X-GNU-PR-Message: followup 25360 X-GNU-PR-Package: emacs X-GNU-PR-Keywords: To: npostavs@users.sourceforge.net Cc: 25360@debbugs.gnu.org Received: via spool by 25360-submit@debbugs.gnu.org id=B25360.148526174121602 (code B ref 25360); Tue, 24 Jan 2017 12:43:01 +0000 Received: (at 25360) by debbugs.gnu.org; 24 Jan 2017 12:42:21 +0000 Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:39843 helo=debbugs.gnu.org) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1cW0QW-0005cM-QV for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Tue, 24 Jan 2017 07:42:20 -0500 Received: from mailgw.mycpanelcloud.co.uk ([185.116.214.125]:33684) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1cW0QV-0005cE-Hb for 25360@debbugs.gnu.org; Tue, 24 Jan 2017 07:42:20 -0500 Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mailgw.mycpanelcloud.co.uk (Postfix) with ESMTP id DB38CC645C for <25360@debbugs.gnu.org>; Tue, 24 Jan 2017 12:41:53 +0000 (GMT) X-Virus-Scanned: by SpamTitan at mycpanelcloud.co.uk Received: from mailgw.mycpanelcloud.co.uk (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mailgw.mycpanelcloud.co.uk (Postfix) with ESMTP id CE8D2C6415 for <25360@debbugs.gnu.org>; Tue, 24 Jan 2017 12:41:46 +0000 (GMT) Received: from cloud103.planethippo.com (cloud103.planethippo.com [31.216.48.48]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES256-GCM-SHA384 (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by mailgw.mycpanelcloud.co.uk (Postfix) with ESMTPS id C2E15C63F2 for <25360@debbugs.gnu.org>; Tue, 24 Jan 2017 12:41:46 +0000 (GMT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; q=dns/txt; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=russet.org.uk; s=default; h=Content-Type:MIME-Version:Message-ID: In-Reply-To:Date:References:Subject:Cc:To:From:Sender:Reply-To: Content-Transfer-Encoding:Content-ID:Content-Description:Resent-Date: Resent-From:Resent-Sender:Resent-To:Resent-Cc:Resent-Message-ID:List-Id: List-Help:List-Unsubscribe:List-Subscribe:List-Post:List-Owner:List-Archive; bh=2sKKkADVVWIw9Tf3dsX09dopyAUDv48dQ3bQv20ao58=; b=10PPmHgc45MPLbFUXAajse9/5 +HRJHXBHhlZXyiBmKzXISp8C7ND+KuYM5fmsB5dDKUxJwJqtuaxxlQnyV4XjoJez8gqa5SS9CSAXH MV3zooZg/rOkzM8Mnr1qNH/1vDFwcv3GoP9s/4onwqZ5bcY7dLDH05qSE6w00ai19NpNXJmlenYIe RAg2V/uCLH+sDTv+gnEsdKU6SWomwji8KDwcSS3Cg0JMtMIw+VtKCtdNfQBR9RqnX7F4SQ2zoE7LJ LSNyhNOxAJpOYiiA39ib47T6BknmY/Bvjr/8D7/YLpEo+kDYw7vaw5nL7KwHznXIFDWNXs8MR/RZY Wv4SjKHqA==; Received: from janus-nat-128-240-225-37.ncl.ac.uk ([128.240.225.37]:48648 helo=russet.org.uk) by cloud103.planethippo.com with esmtpsa (TLSv1.2:ECDHE-RSA-AES128-GCM-SHA256:128) (Exim 4.87) (envelope-from ) id 1cW0QL-000wwU-WB; Tue, 24 Jan 2017 12:42:10 +0000 From: phillip.lord@russet.org.uk (Phillip Lord) References: <8760lndxlz.fsf@russet.org.uk> <83bmvfdk2r.fsf@gnu.org> <8737gqsqqr.fsf@russet.org.uk> <83ziiyda4y.fsf@gnu.org> <87inpj1288.fsf@russet.org.uk> <834m13caay.fsf@gnu.org> <87k29ylk8h.fsf@russet.org.uk> <87mvest1vz.fsf@russet.org.uk> <87h94zyj5s.fsf@users.sourceforge.net> <1760ldfurw.fsf@fencepost.gnu.org> <87k29t4a3d.fsf@russet.org.uk> <8737ghxjce.fsf@users.sourceforge.net> <8737gf8h0g.fsf@russet.org.uk> <83k29r6nnw.fsf@gnu.org> <87lgu4qfst.fsf@russet.org.uk> <874m0q7xo6.fsf@russet.org.uk> <87d1fdvp31.fsf@users.sourceforge.net> Date: Tue, 24 Jan 2017 12:42:09 +0000 In-Reply-To: <87d1fdvp31.fsf@users.sourceforge.net> (npostavs@users.sourceforge.net's message of "Mon, 23 Jan 2017 09:16:34 -0500") Message-ID: <87lgu039zy.fsf@russet.org.uk> User-Agent: Gnus/5.13 (Gnus v5.13) Emacs/25.1.91 (gnu/linux) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain X-AntiAbuse: This header was added to track abuse, please include it with any abuse report X-AntiAbuse: Primary Hostname - cloud103.planethippo.com X-AntiAbuse: Original Domain - debbugs.gnu.org X-AntiAbuse: Originator/Caller UID/GID - [47 12] / [47 12] X-AntiAbuse: Sender Address Domain - russet.org.uk X-Get-Message-Sender-Via: cloud103.planethippo.com: authenticated_id: phillip.lord@russet.org.uk X-Authenticated-Sender: cloud103.planethippo.com: phillip.lord@russet.org.uk X-Spam-Score: 0.0 (/) X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18 Precedence: list List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Sender: "Debbugs-submit" X-Spam-Score: 0.0 (/) npostavs@users.sourceforge.net writes: > phillip.lord@russet.org.uk (Phillip Lord) writes: > >> phillip.lord@russet.org.uk (Phillip Lord) writes: >> >> The final version of this is on fix/bootstrap-build-minimize-squash, >> tested on windows and gnu/linux. Comments welcome or I'll push this to >> master tomorrow. > > Just a few minor formatting things: > >> Remove conditional includes from bootstrap >> >> * lisp/loadup.el: No longer load optional includes during bootstrap >> dumping. >> * lisp/ldefs-boot-auto.el: Regenerate. >> * lisp/ldefs-boot-manual.el: Add two autoloads. >> >> Previously, bootstrap-emacs includes optional functionality, depending >> on the platform which is not needed for bootstrap function. As a result, >> bootstrap-emacs contains different functions in different >> circumstances. If ldefs-boot-auto.el is generated, then loaded functions >> will not be added to ldefs-boot-auto.el, although they may be required >> during some builds. With this change, bootstrap-emacs should always >> behave the same way and, therefore, require the same autoloads. > > Sentences should end in double space, and summary should before > ChangeLog entry. Double space I seem to always get wrong, and I need to check my configuration to stop if removing them. The summary before the changelog, I am a bit less sure on. I see both forms in use. >> +(autoload 'dos-convert-standard-filename "dos-fns.el" nil nil nil) >> +(autoload ' w32-convert-standard-filename "w32-fns.el" nil nil nil) > > Extra space here. > > In the last commit, "Add error handling to magic-mode-alist": > >> + (t >> + (error >> + "Problem in magic-mode-alist with element %s" re)) >> + )))))) > > The close paren placement looks odd. Will address these! Did you have chance to check this on a bootstrap build? Would be good to know I am not the only one. Phil From unknown Mon Jun 23 00:36:20 2025 X-Loop: help-debbugs@gnu.org Subject: bug#25360: File mode specification errors during building Resent-From: phillip.lord@russet.org.uk (Phillip Lord) Original-Sender: "Debbugs-submit" Resent-CC: bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org Resent-Date: Tue, 24 Jan 2017 12:52:01 +0000 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-Sender: help-debbugs@gnu.org X-GNU-PR-Message: followup 25360 X-GNU-PR-Package: emacs X-GNU-PR-Keywords: To: Eli Zaretskii Cc: 25360@debbugs.gnu.org, npostavs@users.sourceforge.net Received: via spool by 25360-submit@debbugs.gnu.org id=B25360.148526227022367 (code B ref 25360); Tue, 24 Jan 2017 12:52:01 +0000 Received: (at 25360) by debbugs.gnu.org; 24 Jan 2017 12:51:10 +0000 Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:39848 helo=debbugs.gnu.org) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1cW0Z3-0005oh-Mc for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Tue, 24 Jan 2017 07:51:09 -0500 Received: from mailgw.mycpanelcloud.co.uk ([185.116.214.213]:53397) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1cW0Z2-0005oU-Hr for 25360@debbugs.gnu.org; Tue, 24 Jan 2017 07:51:09 -0500 Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mailgw.mycpanelcloud.co.uk (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7D0F5C617D for <25360@debbugs.gnu.org>; Tue, 24 Jan 2017 12:50:39 +0000 (GMT) X-Virus-Scanned: by SpamTitan at mycpanelcloud.co.uk Received: from mailgw.mycpanelcloud.co.uk (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mailgw.mycpanelcloud.co.uk (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4E1D3C6415 for <25360@debbugs.gnu.org>; Tue, 24 Jan 2017 12:50:38 +0000 (GMT) Received: from cloud103.planethippo.com (cloud103.planethippo.com [31.216.48.48]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES256-GCM-SHA384 (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by mailgw.mycpanelcloud.co.uk (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 43D4BC63F2 for <25360@debbugs.gnu.org>; Tue, 24 Jan 2017 12:50:38 +0000 (GMT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; q=dns/txt; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=russet.org.uk; s=default; h=Content-Type:MIME-Version:Message-ID: In-Reply-To:Date:References:Subject:Cc:To:From:Sender:Reply-To: Content-Transfer-Encoding:Content-ID:Content-Description:Resent-Date: Resent-From:Resent-Sender:Resent-To:Resent-Cc:Resent-Message-ID:List-Id: List-Help:List-Unsubscribe:List-Subscribe:List-Post:List-Owner:List-Archive; bh=hu+fBjkyFQjtbbnr44SViSfT/PvkT3sV91iUEtHGdC0=; b=CjvhblDY/UMxW9lTsG4xsfn2Q aL8MHgKfpIfuGXFoQy+SjV2lZInkA1xExUansWk3yEMx/xhgNqDa4McTtxEcrwG7LVchCOdN+gYn1 b3IfPo2aqNKmgPIVw560JeNIq2jGUJe3Vgg03Bv+WDwA+zkTbLuvV8MXOtOYLHUaLKB5byqlgWBXT thotL5V/BY+fXWyZa0W7zrX5TRMtitSs2xK/UVNENnUYU59flutL2U4SpW3QdtH/uCmBJIOzisGIG uIXobXmDEmYVii1+TArCMVB7Ms+XEQf1ULkh3LfCJL6pTjxcwzkFCBrokpwyjt6WqcVZPjMG6YcvC sPfq9Hbtw==; Received: from janus-nat-128-240-225-37.ncl.ac.uk ([128.240.225.37]:55834 helo=russet.org.uk) by cloud103.planethippo.com with esmtpsa (TLSv1.2:ECDHE-RSA-AES128-GCM-SHA256:128) (Exim 4.87) (envelope-from ) id 1cW0Yv-0010Hm-Aa; Tue, 24 Jan 2017 12:51:01 +0000 From: phillip.lord@russet.org.uk (Phillip Lord) References: <8760lndxlz.fsf@russet.org.uk> <83bmvfdk2r.fsf@gnu.org> <8737gqsqqr.fsf@russet.org.uk> <83ziiyda4y.fsf@gnu.org> <87inpj1288.fsf@russet.org.uk> <834m13caay.fsf@gnu.org> <87k29ylk8h.fsf@russet.org.uk> <87mvest1vz.fsf@russet.org.uk> <87h94zyj5s.fsf@users.sourceforge.net> <1760ldfurw.fsf@fencepost.gnu.org> <87k29t4a3d.fsf@russet.org.uk> <8737ghxjce.fsf@users.sourceforge.net> <8737gf8h0g.fsf@russet.org.uk> <83k29r6nnw.fsf@gnu.org> <87lgu4qfst.fsf@russet.org.uk> <874m0q7xo6.fsf@russet.org.uk> <83a8ah4wh8.fsf@gnu.org> Date: Tue, 24 Jan 2017 12:51:00 +0000 In-Reply-To: <83a8ah4wh8.fsf@gnu.org> (Eli Zaretskii's message of "Mon, 23 Jan 2017 17:38:59 +0200") Message-ID: <87fuk839l7.fsf@russet.org.uk> User-Agent: Gnus/5.13 (Gnus v5.13) Emacs/25.1.91 (gnu/linux) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain X-AntiAbuse: This header was added to track abuse, please include it with any abuse report X-AntiAbuse: Primary Hostname - cloud103.planethippo.com X-AntiAbuse: Original Domain - debbugs.gnu.org X-AntiAbuse: Originator/Caller UID/GID - [47 12] / [47 12] X-AntiAbuse: Sender Address Domain - russet.org.uk X-Get-Message-Sender-Via: cloud103.planethippo.com: authenticated_id: phillip.lord@russet.org.uk X-Authenticated-Sender: cloud103.planethippo.com: phillip.lord@russet.org.uk X-Spam-Score: 0.0 (/) X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18 Precedence: list List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Sender: "Debbugs-submit" X-Spam-Score: 0.0 (/) Eli Zaretskii writes: >> From: phillip.lord@russet.org.uk (Phillip Lord) >> Date: Mon, 23 Jan 2017 12:44:57 +0000 >> Cc: 25360@debbugs.gnu.org >> >> The final version of this is on fix/bootstrap-build-minimize-squash, >> tested on windows and gnu/linux. Comments welcome or I'll push this to >> master tomorrow. > > Thanks, but please leave more time for people to comment; one day is > not enough. At least one week, or, better, two, should be reserved > for that. Okay, I will wait till next week, although Noam has already commented. Phil From unknown Mon Jun 23 00:36:20 2025 X-Loop: help-debbugs@gnu.org Subject: bug#25360: File mode specification errors during building Resent-From: npostavs@users.sourceforge.net Original-Sender: "Debbugs-submit" Resent-CC: bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org Resent-Date: Tue, 24 Jan 2017 13:12:02 +0000 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-Sender: help-debbugs@gnu.org X-GNU-PR-Message: followup 25360 X-GNU-PR-Package: emacs X-GNU-PR-Keywords: To: phillip.lord@russet.org.uk (Phillip Lord) Cc: 25360@debbugs.gnu.org Received: via spool by 25360-submit@debbugs.gnu.org id=B25360.148526348824166 (code B ref 25360); Tue, 24 Jan 2017 13:12:02 +0000 Received: (at 25360) by debbugs.gnu.org; 24 Jan 2017 13:11:28 +0000 Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:39874 helo=debbugs.gnu.org) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1cW0sh-0006Hi-PN for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Tue, 24 Jan 2017 08:11:27 -0500 Received: from mail-io0-f193.google.com ([209.85.223.193]:34524) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1cW0sg-0006HV-7w for 25360@debbugs.gnu.org; Tue, 24 Jan 2017 08:11:26 -0500 Received: by mail-io0-f193.google.com with SMTP id c80so18461610iod.1 for <25360@debbugs.gnu.org>; Tue, 24 Jan 2017 05:11:26 -0800 (PST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20161025; h=sender:from:to:cc:subject:references:date:in-reply-to:message-id :user-agent:mime-version; bh=4L0mt9TOu1cFbZhF6Kfhx7if1jYdCBpQUG9SfRgURp0=; b=NAJ6jMVYiulNQMDIIc1wma1cvFPeAXsSacIqWZ6rLGS2x38X4NPTTzKsat9xz+nj/L BFf8aA7nyW/igR1geIYiKV4+S6uyHZbgic3CQVzYSsDLwZ8e5a3c5rYITRl1TV1nhGXQ gjgIR39ftATyQ3zxf4zpscXlxxZE7JY7SzTNyyjBKpqFyx48vyRx8aYvi8YYVaJL49jh ZyW2XwSFTqPdp1Ma5hf9eUJoSV2zqg1+2bDzVaiIkV0qF+KI2qE43OkKLP2hZgzvTRW7 uDgip4+EB2h4EX6IKIRTyno+JMER6DwOhQtvORPUgbxS2XCw1fEraGZyM57XwNTBp5fT p6rw== X-Google-DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=1e100.net; s=20161025; h=x-gm-message-state:sender:from:to:cc:subject:references:date :in-reply-to:message-id:user-agent:mime-version; bh=4L0mt9TOu1cFbZhF6Kfhx7if1jYdCBpQUG9SfRgURp0=; b=J9UsKcyW3QqcTREgMFDSIKyP2zTbZ8ZF/uIZP+3jao0sof97O3i4PV1zmKMx8iselb 2RonZCzeylG/TnFY7+RST6Wm1DOrwi5Wr4FkWlTSIn3JliKSHgeqXbpsVDjz9nxObAeU ZBoHutpxCXjlQwcSOe5ZlAHTe+DC4hinOwOtPk5B+sga/qabnuuJtr+Q2XRl4iZWq+RR JeeLKcmA+zAGhRMfqVXSPWicxsuKi7fmPKbrqj70BHEDFc8NrMBdCSwyGfgBqXXNnkFz Zk+VdEqgwaoJd82CnlZsXgijYHuVkKMsw3l8g98KoWCepaFEV47FToMIRtJzRfNzxv28 i6cg== X-Gm-Message-State: AIkVDXIMj4rmWKOGVNCmaGdHo+n3HNZX93pr2+Fwt2E5oPLPKIYw21pVpotkQqM7CV9wrQ== X-Received: by 10.107.59.201 with SMTP id i192mr31936268ioa.196.1485263480457; Tue, 24 Jan 2017 05:11:20 -0800 (PST) Received: from zony ([45.2.7.65]) by smtp.googlemail.com with ESMTPSA id 62sm10187029itl.1.2017.01.24.05.11.19 (version=TLS1_2 cipher=ECDHE-RSA-CHACHA20-POLY1305 bits=256/256); Tue, 24 Jan 2017 05:11:19 -0800 (PST) From: npostavs@users.sourceforge.net References: <8760lndxlz.fsf@russet.org.uk> <83bmvfdk2r.fsf@gnu.org> <8737gqsqqr.fsf@russet.org.uk> <83ziiyda4y.fsf@gnu.org> <87inpj1288.fsf@russet.org.uk> <834m13caay.fsf@gnu.org> <87k29ylk8h.fsf@russet.org.uk> <87mvest1vz.fsf@russet.org.uk> <87h94zyj5s.fsf@users.sourceforge.net> <1760ldfurw.fsf@fencepost.gnu.org> <87k29t4a3d.fsf@russet.org.uk> <8737ghxjce.fsf@users.sourceforge.net> <8737gf8h0g.fsf@russet.org.uk> <83k29r6nnw.fsf@gnu.org> <87lgu4qfst.fsf@russet.org.uk> <874m0q7xo6.fsf@russet.org.uk> <87d1fdvp31.fsf@users.sourceforge.net> <87lgu039zy.fsf@russet.org.uk> Date: Tue, 24 Jan 2017 08:12:26 -0500 In-Reply-To: <87lgu039zy.fsf@russet.org.uk> (Phillip Lord's message of "Tue, 24 Jan 2017 12:42:09 +0000") Message-ID: <87y3y0txdx.fsf@users.sourceforge.net> User-Agent: Gnus/5.13 (Gnus v5.13) Emacs/25.1 (gnu/linux) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain X-Spam-Score: -0.6 (/) X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18 Precedence: list List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Sender: "Debbugs-submit" X-Spam-Score: -0.6 (/) phillip.lord@russet.org.uk (Phillip Lord) writes: >> >> Sentences should end in double space, and summary should before >> ChangeLog entry. > > The summary before the changelog, I am a bit less sure on. I see both > forms in use. Well, CONTRIBUTE says this: - Explaining the rationale for a design choice is best done in comments in the source code. However, sometimes it is useful to describe just the rationale for a change; that can be done in the commit message between the summary line and the file entries. > > Did you have chance to check this on a bootstrap build? Would be good to > know I am not the only one. I did have a successful bootstrap with your previous fix/bootstrap-build-minimize branch on Arch GNU/Linux, --with-x-toolkit=lucid. Haven't built the new branch yet, though it seems to have the same diffs. From unknown Mon Jun 23 00:36:20 2025 X-Loop: help-debbugs@gnu.org Subject: bug#25360: File mode specification errors during building Resent-From: Eli Zaretskii Original-Sender: "Debbugs-submit" Resent-CC: bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org Resent-Date: Tue, 24 Jan 2017 15:54:02 +0000 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-Sender: help-debbugs@gnu.org X-GNU-PR-Message: followup 25360 X-GNU-PR-Package: emacs X-GNU-PR-Keywords: To: phillip.lord@russet.org.uk (Phillip Lord) Cc: 25360@debbugs.gnu.org, npostavs@users.sourceforge.net Reply-To: Eli Zaretskii Received: via spool by 25360-submit@debbugs.gnu.org id=B25360.14852731966543 (code B ref 25360); Tue, 24 Jan 2017 15:54:02 +0000 Received: (at 25360) by debbugs.gnu.org; 24 Jan 2017 15:53:16 +0000 Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:40498 helo=debbugs.gnu.org) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1cW3PI-0001hS-Kd for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Tue, 24 Jan 2017 10:53:16 -0500 Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([208.118.235.92]:42286) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1cW3PH-0001hF-3z for 25360@debbugs.gnu.org; Tue, 24 Jan 2017 10:53:15 -0500 Received: from Debian-exim by eggs.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1cW3P8-0000zi-PN for 25360@debbugs.gnu.org; Tue, 24 Jan 2017 10:53:09 -0500 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.3.2 (2011-06-06) on eggs.gnu.org X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-3.2 required=5.0 tests=BAYES_40,RP_MATCHES_RCVD autolearn=disabled version=3.3.2 Received: from fencepost.gnu.org ([2001:4830:134:3::e]:44514) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1cW3P8-0000ze-Mr; Tue, 24 Jan 2017 10:53:06 -0500 Received: from 84.94.185.246.cable.012.net.il ([84.94.185.246]:1349 helo=home-c4e4a596f7) by fencepost.gnu.org with esmtpsa (TLS1.2:RSA_AES_256_CBC_SHA1:256) (Exim 4.82) (envelope-from ) id 1cW3P7-00037S-My; Tue, 24 Jan 2017 10:53:06 -0500 Date: Tue, 24 Jan 2017 17:52:46 +0200 Message-Id: <83tw8o3169.fsf@gnu.org> From: Eli Zaretskii In-reply-to: <87fuk839l7.fsf@russet.org.uk> (phillip.lord@russet.org.uk) References: <8760lndxlz.fsf@russet.org.uk> <83bmvfdk2r.fsf@gnu.org> <8737gqsqqr.fsf@russet.org.uk> <83ziiyda4y.fsf@gnu.org> <87inpj1288.fsf@russet.org.uk> <834m13caay.fsf@gnu.org> <87k29ylk8h.fsf@russet.org.uk> <87mvest1vz.fsf@russet.org.uk> <87h94zyj5s.fsf@users.sourceforge.net> <1760ldfurw.fsf@fencepost.gnu.org> <87k29t4a3d.fsf@russet.org.uk> <8737ghxjce.fsf@users.sourceforge.net> <8737gf8h0g.fsf@russet.org.uk> <83k29r6nnw.fsf@gnu.org> <87lgu4qfst.fsf@russet.org.uk> <874m0q7xo6.fsf@russet.org.uk> <83a8ah4wh8.fsf@gnu.org> <87fuk839l7.fsf@russet.org.uk> X-detected-operating-system: by eggs.gnu.org: GNU/Linux 2.2.x-3.x [generic] X-Received-From: 2001:4830:134:3::e X-Spam-Score: -8.2 (--------) X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18 Precedence: list List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Sender: "Debbugs-submit" X-Spam-Score: -8.2 (--------) > From: phillip.lord@russet.org.uk (Phillip Lord) > Cc: npostavs@users.sourceforge.net, 25360@debbugs.gnu.org > Date: Tue, 24 Jan 2017 12:51:00 +0000 > > > Thanks, but please leave more time for people to comment; one day is > > not enough. At least one week, or, better, two, should be reserved > > for that. > > Okay, I will wait till next week, although Noam has already commented. Yes, Noam is lightning-fast ;-) Others might need more time. Thanks. From unknown Mon Jun 23 00:36:20 2025 X-Loop: help-debbugs@gnu.org Subject: bug#25360: File mode specification errors during building Resent-From: Glenn Morris Original-Sender: "Debbugs-submit" Resent-CC: bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org Resent-Date: Wed, 25 Jan 2017 22:48:02 +0000 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-Sender: help-debbugs@gnu.org X-GNU-PR-Message: followup 25360 X-GNU-PR-Package: emacs X-GNU-PR-Keywords: To: phillip.lord@russet.org.uk (Phillip Lord) Cc: 25360@debbugs.gnu.org, Noam Postavsky Received: via spool by 25360-submit@debbugs.gnu.org id=B25360.148538443812404 (code B ref 25360); Wed, 25 Jan 2017 22:48:02 +0000 Received: (at 25360) by debbugs.gnu.org; 25 Jan 2017 22:47:18 +0000 Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:43886 helo=debbugs.gnu.org) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1cWWLV-0003E0-Lw for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Wed, 25 Jan 2017 17:47:17 -0500 Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([208.118.235.92]:55568) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1cWWLT-0003Dl-Ob for 25360@debbugs.gnu.org; Wed, 25 Jan 2017 17:47:15 -0500 Received: from Debian-exim by eggs.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1cWWLN-0001k4-PO for 25360@debbugs.gnu.org; Wed, 25 Jan 2017 17:47:10 -0500 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.3.2 (2011-06-06) on eggs.gnu.org X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-2.4 required=5.0 tests=BAYES_50,RP_MATCHES_RCVD autolearn=disabled version=3.3.2 Received: from fencepost.gnu.org ([2001:4830:134:3::e]:39578) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1cWWKV-0001UU-BY; Wed, 25 Jan 2017 17:46:15 -0500 Received: from rgm by fencepost.gnu.org with local (Exim 4.82) (envelope-from ) id 1cWWKU-0004ws-S5; Wed, 25 Jan 2017 17:46:14 -0500 From: Glenn Morris References: <8760lndxlz.fsf@russet.org.uk> <83bmvfdk2r.fsf@gnu.org> <8737gqsqqr.fsf@russet.org.uk> <83ziiyda4y.fsf@gnu.org> <87inpj1288.fsf@russet.org.uk> <834m13caay.fsf@gnu.org> <87k29ylk8h.fsf@russet.org.uk> <87mvest1vz.fsf@russet.org.uk> <87h94zyj5s.fsf@users.sourceforge.net> <1760ldfurw.fsf@fencepost.gnu.org> <87k29t4a3d.fsf@russet.org.uk> <8737ghxjce.fsf@users.sourceforge.net> <8737gf8h0g.fsf@russet.org.uk> <83k29r6nnw.fsf@gnu.org> <87lgu4qfst.fsf@russet.org.uk> <874m0q7xo6.fsf@russet.org.uk> X-Spook: halcon Smart WMATA fundamentalist STARLAN Blizzard Plume X-Ran: #P/KlFiDAr3X~62w`9[5wUrwve|LN82$-Bx]}sG%~3$8~/rf.Kd;|{'!MNXAhRDGr^jon_ X-Hue: cyan X-Attribution: GM Date: Wed, 25 Jan 2017 17:46:14 -0500 In-Reply-To: <874m0q7xo6.fsf@russet.org.uk> (Phillip Lord's message of "Mon, 23 Jan 2017 12:44:57 +0000") Message-ID: User-Agent: Gnus (www.gnus.org), GNU Emacs (www.gnu.org/software/emacs/) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain X-detected-operating-system: by eggs.gnu.org: GNU/Linux 2.2.x-3.x [generic] X-Received-From: 2001:4830:134:3::e X-Spam-Score: -8.2 (--------) X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18 Precedence: list List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Sender: "Debbugs-submit" X-Spam-Score: -8.2 (--------) Thanks. I can't decide whether modifying loadup.el for bootstrap-emacs in all cases is good, bad, or neither... :) Does it have any impact on the speed of builds, either way? (Eg no longer loading something that wasn't needed; or now autoloading every time something that used to be dumped.) BTW, did you consider using a non-Emacs method to generate the basic loaddefs? Eg maybe find + awk would be good enough to extract the necessary autoloads to get a bootstrap going? From unknown Mon Jun 23 00:36:20 2025 X-Loop: help-debbugs@gnu.org Subject: bug#25360: File mode specification errors during building Resent-From: phillip.lord@russet.org.uk (Phillip Lord) Original-Sender: "Debbugs-submit" Resent-CC: bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org Resent-Date: Fri, 27 Jan 2017 16:26:02 +0000 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-Sender: help-debbugs@gnu.org X-GNU-PR-Message: followup 25360 X-GNU-PR-Package: emacs X-GNU-PR-Keywords: To: Glenn Morris Cc: 25360@debbugs.gnu.org, Noam Postavsky Received: via spool by 25360-submit@debbugs.gnu.org id=B25360.14855343159736 (code B ref 25360); Fri, 27 Jan 2017 16:26:02 +0000 Received: (at 25360) by debbugs.gnu.org; 27 Jan 2017 16:25:15 +0000 Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:48510 helo=debbugs.gnu.org) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1cX9Kt-0002Wx-Fr for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Fri, 27 Jan 2017 11:25:15 -0500 Received: from mailgw.mycpanelcloud.co.uk ([185.116.214.205]:28034) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1cX9Kr-0002Wl-St for 25360@debbugs.gnu.org; Fri, 27 Jan 2017 11:25:14 -0500 Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mailgw.mycpanelcloud.co.uk (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3B88EC6475 for <25360@debbugs.gnu.org>; Fri, 27 Jan 2017 16:24:43 +0000 (GMT) X-Virus-Scanned: by SpamTitan at mycpanelcloud.co.uk Received: from mailgw.mycpanelcloud.co.uk (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mailgw.mycpanelcloud.co.uk (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1647EC6433 for <25360@debbugs.gnu.org>; Fri, 27 Jan 2017 16:24:41 +0000 (GMT) Received: from cloud103.planethippo.com (cloud103.planethippo.com [31.216.48.48]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES256-GCM-SHA384 (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by mailgw.mycpanelcloud.co.uk (Postfix) with ESMTPS id EEE9AC66C6 for <25360@debbugs.gnu.org>; Fri, 27 Jan 2017 16:24:40 +0000 (GMT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; q=dns/txt; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=russet.org.uk; s=default; h=Content-Type:MIME-Version:Message-ID:Date: References:In-Reply-To:Subject:Cc:To:From:Sender:Reply-To: Content-Transfer-Encoding:Content-ID:Content-Description:Resent-Date: Resent-From:Resent-Sender:Resent-To:Resent-Cc:Resent-Message-ID:List-Id: List-Help:List-Unsubscribe:List-Subscribe:List-Post:List-Owner:List-Archive; bh=Os36LVXrVo2hJiHdCAOne+NEK+6Bu/M9BoIbVOD7RHM=; b=HaBykmmT+G61p6MeIzQK8CnAe 0JTCzizjd0nJwDxbuqRF8Z4patCgDJ5+cTyyz8YD/kx0X7tSjD1hOh+Arwiqjt0ewOEpCAZ9IZboK RS5MfsGjCEMH3iA+cC8MSvCYGicGnFo03CO7iP2iHbXQblZrn8wQcbmJZ3MW4WOiLVhcvdCa8onmI NmV+Sf6aaQtbRGydqz3+mRAajzqJYavih7WQ4MEZ9kwDCOpGNW7chgA5Dit5XoIyR+wKLsLbpUWFN 6hwFMDEHCl3bP4i/jkfUCLtWNPrLQvfYRgmfNsRAM5FzKeJYQSWFujnIVR5L/S24EbfDvEr1XOmW/ MSILfnhHg==; Received: from janus-nat-128-240-225-37.ncl.ac.uk ([128.240.225.37]:61953 helo=russet.org.uk) by cloud103.planethippo.com with esmtpsa (TLSv1.2:ECDHE-RSA-AES128-GCM-SHA256:128) (Exim 4.87) (envelope-from ) id 1cX9Ki-0009qM-Ap; Fri, 27 Jan 2017 16:25:04 +0000 From: phillip.lord@russet.org.uk (Phillip Lord) In-Reply-To: (Glenn Morris's message of "Wed, 25 Jan 2017 17:46:14 -0500") References: <8760lndxlz.fsf@russet.org.uk> <83bmvfdk2r.fsf@gnu.org> <8737gqsqqr.fsf@russet.org.uk> <83ziiyda4y.fsf@gnu.org> <87inpj1288.fsf@russet.org.uk> <834m13caay.fsf@gnu.org> <87k29ylk8h.fsf@russet.org.uk> <87mvest1vz.fsf@russet.org.uk> <87h94zyj5s.fsf@users.sourceforge.net> <1760ldfurw.fsf@fencepost.gnu.org> <87k29t4a3d.fsf@russet.org.uk> <8737ghxjce.fsf@users.sourceforge.net> <8737gf8h0g.fsf@russet.org.uk> <83k29r6nnw.fsf@gnu.org> <87lgu4qfst.fsf@russet.org.uk> <874m0q7xo6.fsf@russet.org.uk> User-Agent: Gnus/5.13 (Gnus v5.13) Emacs/25.1.91 (gnu/linux) Date: Fri, 27 Jan 2017 16:25:04 +0000 Message-ID: <87tw8k8o7z.fsf@russet.org.uk> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain X-AntiAbuse: This header was added to track abuse, please include it with any abuse report X-AntiAbuse: Primary Hostname - cloud103.planethippo.com X-AntiAbuse: Original Domain - debbugs.gnu.org X-AntiAbuse: Originator/Caller UID/GID - [47 12] / [47 12] X-AntiAbuse: Sender Address Domain - russet.org.uk X-Get-Message-Sender-Via: cloud103.planethippo.com: authenticated_id: phillip.lord@russet.org.uk X-Authenticated-Sender: cloud103.planethippo.com: phillip.lord@russet.org.uk X-Spam-Score: 0.0 (/) X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18 Precedence: list List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Sender: "Debbugs-submit" X-Spam-Score: 0.0 (/) Glenn Morris writes: > Thanks. > I can't decide whether modifying loadup.el for bootstrap-emacs in all > cases is good, bad, or neither... :) I worry about it slightly mostly because I'd rather not modify loadup.el, especially given that the motivation is an error message that isn't really causing any harm. > Does it have any impact on the speed of builds, either way? I checked whether my original modification made any difference, and the answer is a few seconds. bootstrap-emacs is replaced by emacs after the bootstrap build anyway (not sure why since actually, since I don't think bootstrap-emacs is used again). > (Eg no longer loading something that wasn't needed; or now autoloading > every time something that used to be dumped.) The former is true, but this *should* speed up the build (albeit only a little). I don't think we are doing the latter, except for 'w32-convert-standard-filename and only on windows. > BTW, did you consider using a non-Emacs method to generate the basic > loaddefs? Eg maybe find + awk would be good enough to extract the > necessary autoloads to get a bootstrap going? Yes, I did, but wasn't sure what extra dependencies the Emacs makefile was allowed to have. I guess it already uses find and awk. Also, I thought about building a bootstrap-emacs to generate loaddefs.el (and nothing else), then another bootstrap-emacs to do what the current one does. Or, split the loads and the bit which does the dump in loadup.el and see if I could get temacs to do what bootstrap-emacs currently does. I was trying to be as conservative as possible, especially as the dumping proceedure may change significantly soon. I guess my changes to loadup.el do not qualify as that conservative now. Phil From unknown Mon Jun 23 00:36:20 2025 X-Loop: help-debbugs@gnu.org Subject: bug#25360: File mode specification errors during building Resent-From: phillip.lord@russet.org.uk (Phillip Lord) Original-Sender: "Debbugs-submit" Resent-CC: bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org Resent-Date: Mon, 06 Feb 2017 10:32:01 +0000 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-Sender: help-debbugs@gnu.org X-GNU-PR-Message: followup 25360 X-GNU-PR-Package: emacs X-GNU-PR-Keywords: To: Eli Zaretskii Cc: 25360@debbugs.gnu.org, npostavs@users.sourceforge.net Received: via spool by 25360-submit@debbugs.gnu.org id=B25360.148637709325799 (code B ref 25360); Mon, 06 Feb 2017 10:32:01 +0000 Received: (at 25360) by debbugs.gnu.org; 6 Feb 2017 10:31:33 +0000 Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:57183 helo=debbugs.gnu.org) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1caga4-0006i2-PY for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Mon, 06 Feb 2017 05:31:32 -0500 Received: from mailgw.mycpanelcloud.co.uk ([185.116.214.213]:41416) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1caga2-0006ho-9m for 25360@debbugs.gnu.org; Mon, 06 Feb 2017 05:31:31 -0500 Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mailgw.mycpanelcloud.co.uk (Postfix) with ESMTP id B4C79C8189 for <25360@debbugs.gnu.org>; Mon, 6 Feb 2017 10:30:58 +0000 (GMT) X-Virus-Scanned: by SpamTitan at mycpanelcloud.co.uk Received: from mailgw.mycpanelcloud.co.uk (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mailgw.mycpanelcloud.co.uk (Postfix) with ESMTP id C4988C81C5 for <25360@debbugs.gnu.org>; Mon, 6 Feb 2017 10:30:57 +0000 (GMT) Received: from cloud103.planethippo.com (cloud103.planethippo.com [31.216.48.48]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES256-GCM-SHA384 (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by mailgw.mycpanelcloud.co.uk (Postfix) with ESMTPS id B9940C81C0 for <25360@debbugs.gnu.org>; Mon, 6 Feb 2017 10:30:57 +0000 (GMT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; q=dns/txt; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=russet.org.uk; s=default; h=Content-Type:MIME-Version:Message-ID: In-Reply-To:Date:References:Subject:Cc:To:From:Sender:Reply-To: Content-Transfer-Encoding:Content-ID:Content-Description:Resent-Date: Resent-From:Resent-Sender:Resent-To:Resent-Cc:Resent-Message-ID:List-Id: List-Help:List-Unsubscribe:List-Subscribe:List-Post:List-Owner:List-Archive; bh=eflb9ik713Rac50U/xiKcKCRBdjhmKGcazCPsgeJLSM=; b=LZDlntfI78oe/qZXowLrlbR2i FRtGVT6bcUQhhj2+MwSKq0e7lg3SrgYxkrWL27qzTQ5c9syylearDLQGy/KnsjISxoD6QbDtwdtxy 9FoK681TQLeHw7TuFluCquroMYdXBhtEztnfu/GKnDEEQ1A7GkpqvRJ25AzQTvlvdEWYjkgsnoiv5 j/DXET4k2DRcE4r0p3AmeeiWz4/tVaoOQvjYn8amW7sHK+FKRFtJkCF0+g0VdxMVRQfTj4RRHRP98 ITvJAsNhN8Ib9hHEKVJCMrZurIJebkKX1OgoBXKxFbZZ5QiHsdhgPFRLor/0Tcg1R/iHgy7+Wc467 oYRBg0Upg==; Received: from [176.12.107.140] (port=58198 helo=russet.org.uk) by cloud103.planethippo.com with esmtpsa (TLSv1.2:ECDHE-RSA-AES128-GCM-SHA256:128) (Exim 4.87) (envelope-from ) id 1cagZt-002SKy-N6; Mon, 06 Feb 2017 10:31:22 +0000 From: phillip.lord@russet.org.uk (Phillip Lord) References: <83bmvfdk2r.fsf@gnu.org> <8737gqsqqr.fsf@russet.org.uk> <83ziiyda4y.fsf@gnu.org> <87inpj1288.fsf@russet.org.uk> <834m13caay.fsf@gnu.org> <87k29ylk8h.fsf@russet.org.uk> <87mvest1vz.fsf@russet.org.uk> <87h94zyj5s.fsf@users.sourceforge.net> <1760ldfurw.fsf@fencepost.gnu.org> <87k29t4a3d.fsf@russet.org.uk> <8737ghxjce.fsf@users.sourceforge.net> <8737gf8h0g.fsf@russet.org.uk> <83k29r6nnw.fsf@gnu.org> <87lgu4qfst.fsf@russet.org.uk> <874m0q7xo6.fsf@russet.org.uk> <83a8ah4wh8.fsf@gnu.org> <87fuk839l7.fsf@russet.org.uk> <83tw8o3169.fsf@gnu.org> Date: Mon, 06 Feb 2017 10:31:12 +0000 In-Reply-To: <83tw8o3169.fsf@gnu.org> (Eli Zaretskii's message of "Tue, 24 Jan 2017 17:52:46 +0200") Message-ID: <87o9yfzk3z.fsf@russet.org.uk> User-Agent: Gnus/5.13 (Gnus v5.13) Emacs/25.1.50 (gnu/linux) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain X-AntiAbuse: This header was added to track abuse, please include it with any abuse report X-AntiAbuse: Primary Hostname - cloud103.planethippo.com X-AntiAbuse: Original Domain - debbugs.gnu.org X-AntiAbuse: Originator/Caller UID/GID - [47 12] / [47 12] X-AntiAbuse: Sender Address Domain - russet.org.uk X-Get-Message-Sender-Via: cloud103.planethippo.com: authenticated_id: phillip.lord@russet.org.uk X-Authenticated-Sender: cloud103.planethippo.com: phillip.lord@russet.org.uk X-Spam-Score: 0.5 (/) X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18 Precedence: list List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Sender: "Debbugs-submit" X-Spam-Score: 0.5 (/) Eli Zaretskii writes: >> From: phillip.lord@russet.org.uk (Phillip Lord) >> Cc: npostavs@users.sourceforge.net, 25360@debbugs.gnu.org >> Date: Tue, 24 Jan 2017 12:51:00 +0000 >> >> > Thanks, but please leave more time for people to comment; one day is >> > not enough. At least one week, or, better, two, should be reserved >> > for that. >> >> Okay, I will wait till next week, although Noam has already commented. > > Yes, Noam is lightning-fast ;-) Others might need more time. > > Thanks. Are you happy for me to install this now? Phil From unknown Mon Jun 23 00:36:20 2025 X-Loop: help-debbugs@gnu.org Subject: bug#25360: File mode specification errors during building Resent-From: Eli Zaretskii Original-Sender: "Debbugs-submit" Resent-CC: bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org Resent-Date: Mon, 06 Feb 2017 15:42:01 +0000 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-Sender: help-debbugs@gnu.org X-GNU-PR-Message: followup 25360 X-GNU-PR-Package: emacs X-GNU-PR-Keywords: To: phillip.lord@russet.org.uk (Phillip Lord) Cc: 25360@debbugs.gnu.org, npostavs@users.sourceforge.net Reply-To: Eli Zaretskii Received: via spool by 25360-submit@debbugs.gnu.org id=B25360.148639571728026 (code B ref 25360); Mon, 06 Feb 2017 15:42:01 +0000 Received: (at 25360) by debbugs.gnu.org; 6 Feb 2017 15:41:57 +0000 Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:57957 helo=debbugs.gnu.org) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1calQT-0007Hy-A5 for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Mon, 06 Feb 2017 10:41:57 -0500 Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([208.118.235.92]:49446) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1calQS-0007Hm-HH for 25360@debbugs.gnu.org; Mon, 06 Feb 2017 10:41:56 -0500 Received: from Debian-exim by eggs.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1calQK-0004Gd-8B for 25360@debbugs.gnu.org; Mon, 06 Feb 2017 10:41:51 -0500 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.3.2 (2011-06-06) on eggs.gnu.org X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-1.9 required=5.0 tests=BAYES_00,RP_MATCHES_RCVD autolearn=disabled version=3.3.2 Received: from fencepost.gnu.org ([2001:4830:134:3::e]:50559) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1calQK-0004GY-4u; Mon, 06 Feb 2017 10:41:48 -0500 Received: from 84.94.185.246.cable.012.net.il ([84.94.185.246]:4610 helo=home-c4e4a596f7) by fencepost.gnu.org with esmtpsa (TLS1.2:RSA_AES_256_CBC_SHA1:256) (Exim 4.82) (envelope-from ) id 1calQJ-0000E3-Cm; Mon, 06 Feb 2017 10:41:47 -0500 Date: Mon, 06 Feb 2017 17:41:45 +0200 Message-Id: <83h94772di.fsf@gnu.org> From: Eli Zaretskii In-reply-to: <87o9yfzk3z.fsf@russet.org.uk> (phillip.lord@russet.org.uk) References: <83bmvfdk2r.fsf@gnu.org> <8737gqsqqr.fsf@russet.org.uk> <83ziiyda4y.fsf@gnu.org> <87inpj1288.fsf@russet.org.uk> <834m13caay.fsf@gnu.org> <87k29ylk8h.fsf@russet.org.uk> <87mvest1vz.fsf@russet.org.uk> <87h94zyj5s.fsf@users.sourceforge.net> <1760ldfurw.fsf@fencepost.gnu.org> <87k29t4a3d.fsf@russet.org.uk> <8737ghxjce.fsf@users.sourceforge.net> <8737gf8h0g.fsf@russet.org.uk> <83k29r6nnw.fsf@gnu.org> <87lgu4qfst.fsf@russet.org.uk> <874m0q7xo6.fsf@russet.org.uk> <83a8ah4wh8.fsf@gnu.org> <87fuk839l7.fsf@russet.org.uk> <83tw8o3169.fsf@gnu.org> <87o9yfzk3z.fsf@russet.org.uk> X-detected-operating-system: by eggs.gnu.org: GNU/Linux 2.2.x-3.x [generic] X-Received-From: 2001:4830:134:3::e X-Spam-Score: -5.0 (-----) X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18 Precedence: list List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Sender: "Debbugs-submit" X-Spam-Score: -5.0 (-----) > From: phillip.lord@russet.org.uk (Phillip Lord) > Cc: npostavs@users.sourceforge.net, 25360@debbugs.gnu.org > Date: Mon, 06 Feb 2017 10:31:12 +0000 > > Are you happy for me to install this now? Sure, go ahead. Thanks. From unknown Mon Jun 23 00:36:20 2025 X-Loop: help-debbugs@gnu.org Subject: bug#25360: File mode specification errors during building Resent-From: Glenn Morris Original-Sender: "Debbugs-submit" Resent-CC: bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org Resent-Date: Mon, 13 Feb 2017 02:08:02 +0000 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-Sender: help-debbugs@gnu.org X-GNU-PR-Message: followup 25360 X-GNU-PR-Package: emacs X-GNU-PR-Keywords: To: Eli Zaretskii Cc: 25360@debbugs.gnu.org, npostavs@users.sourceforge.net, Phillip Lord Received: via spool by 25360-submit@debbugs.gnu.org id=B25360.148695164329236 (code B ref 25360); Mon, 13 Feb 2017 02:08:02 +0000 Received: (at 25360) by debbugs.gnu.org; 13 Feb 2017 02:07:23 +0000 Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:37598 helo=debbugs.gnu.org) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1cd631-0007bU-6U for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Sun, 12 Feb 2017 21:07:23 -0500 Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([208.118.235.92]:39582) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1cd62z-0007bH-Ex for 25360@debbugs.gnu.org; Sun, 12 Feb 2017 21:07:21 -0500 Received: from Debian-exim by eggs.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1cd62t-00058T-9T for 25360@debbugs.gnu.org; Sun, 12 Feb 2017 21:07:16 -0500 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.3.2 (2011-06-06) on eggs.gnu.org X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-1.9 required=5.0 tests=BAYES_00,RP_MATCHES_RCVD autolearn=disabled version=3.3.2 Received: from fencepost.gnu.org ([2001:4830:134:3::e]:52622) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1cd61r-00054S-T0; Sun, 12 Feb 2017 21:06:11 -0500 Received: from rgm by fencepost.gnu.org with local (Exim 4.82) (envelope-from ) id 1cd61q-0003fk-QL; Sun, 12 Feb 2017 21:06:10 -0500 From: Glenn Morris References: <83ziiyda4y.fsf@gnu.org> <87inpj1288.fsf@russet.org.uk> <834m13caay.fsf@gnu.org> <87k29ylk8h.fsf@russet.org.uk> <87mvest1vz.fsf@russet.org.uk> <87h94zyj5s.fsf@users.sourceforge.net> <1760ldfurw.fsf@fencepost.gnu.org> <87k29t4a3d.fsf@russet.org.uk> <8737ghxjce.fsf@users.sourceforge.net> <8737gf8h0g.fsf@russet.org.uk> <83k29r6nnw.fsf@gnu.org> <87lgu4qfst.fsf@russet.org.uk> <874m0q7xo6.fsf@russet.org.uk> <83a8ah4wh8.fsf@gnu.org> <87fuk839l7.fsf@russet.org.uk> <83tw8o3169.fsf@gnu.org> <87o9yfzk3z.fsf@russet.org.uk> <83h94772di.fsf@gnu.org> X-Spook: Keylogger SEAL Team 6 Bomb threat AVN Baranyi class X-Ran: Ls>K6V/!5uHuj[7ehC{GF>N~q^reof9Qdi0VEiPw}FZ1PFlE:.@`(lB X-Hue: magenta X-Attribution: GM Date: Sun, 12 Feb 2017 21:06:10 -0500 In-Reply-To: <83h94772di.fsf@gnu.org> (Eli Zaretskii's message of "Mon, 06 Feb 2017 17:41:45 +0200") Message-ID: User-Agent: Gnus (www.gnus.org), GNU Emacs (www.gnu.org/software/emacs/) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain X-detected-operating-system: by eggs.gnu.org: GNU/Linux 2.2.x-3.x [generic] X-Received-From: 2001:4830:134:3::e X-Spam-Score: -5.0 (-----) X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18 Precedence: list List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Sender: "Debbugs-submit" X-Spam-Score: -5.0 (-----) BTW, I think this loaddefs stuff is now giving a bootstrap failure related to the "used to be in ldefs-boot" string-to-list. http://hydra.nixos.org/build/48432485 From unknown Mon Jun 23 00:36:20 2025 X-Loop: help-debbugs@gnu.org Subject: bug#25360: File mode specification errors during building Resent-From: Glenn Morris Original-Sender: "Debbugs-submit" Resent-CC: bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org Resent-Date: Mon, 13 Feb 2017 02:09:02 +0000 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-Sender: help-debbugs@gnu.org X-GNU-PR-Message: followup 25360 X-GNU-PR-Package: emacs X-GNU-PR-Keywords: To: phillip.lord@russet.org.uk (Phillip Lord) Cc: 25360@debbugs.gnu.org, Noam Postavsky Received: via spool by 25360-submit@debbugs.gnu.org id=B25360.148695171929366 (code B ref 25360); 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Sun, 12 Feb 2017 21:07:34 -0500 Received: from rgm by fencepost.gnu.org with local (Exim 4.82) (envelope-from ) id 1cd63B-0003jV-U4; Sun, 12 Feb 2017 21:07:33 -0500 From: Glenn Morris References: <8760lndxlz.fsf@russet.org.uk> <83bmvfdk2r.fsf@gnu.org> <8737gqsqqr.fsf@russet.org.uk> <83ziiyda4y.fsf@gnu.org> <87inpj1288.fsf@russet.org.uk> <834m13caay.fsf@gnu.org> <87k29ylk8h.fsf@russet.org.uk> <87mvest1vz.fsf@russet.org.uk> <87h94zyj5s.fsf@users.sourceforge.net> <1760ldfurw.fsf@fencepost.gnu.org> <87k29t4a3d.fsf@russet.org.uk> <8737ghxjce.fsf@users.sourceforge.net> <8737gf8h0g.fsf@russet.org.uk> <83k29r6nnw.fsf@gnu.org> <87lgu4qfst.fsf@russet.org.uk> <874m0q7xo6.fsf@russet.org.uk> <87tw8k8o7z.fsf@russet.org.uk> X-Spook: Commecen NASA Centro KGB warfare Federal Bureau of X-Ran: #'!Cuug (Phillip Lord's message of "Fri, 27 Jan 2017 16:25:04 +0000") Message-ID: <3pr3327sii.fsf@fencepost.gnu.org> User-Agent: Gnus (www.gnus.org), GNU Emacs (www.gnu.org/software/emacs/) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain X-detected-operating-system: by eggs.gnu.org: GNU/Linux 2.2.x-3.x [generic] X-Received-From: 2001:4830:134:3::e X-Spam-Score: -5.0 (-----) X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18 Precedence: list List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Sender: "Debbugs-submit" X-Spam-Score: -5.0 (-----) Phillip Lord wrote: >> I can't decide whether modifying loadup.el for bootstrap-emacs in all >> cases is good, bad, or neither... :) > > I worry about it slightly mostly because I'd rather not modify > loadup.el, especially given that the motivation is an error message that > isn't really causing any harm. Yes, that was my concern too. >> BTW, did you consider using a non-Emacs method to generate the basic >> loaddefs? Eg maybe find + awk would be good enough to extract the >> necessary autoloads to get a bootstrap going? > > Yes, I did, but wasn't sure what extra dependencies the Emacs makefile > was allowed to have. I guess it already uses find and awk. Yes, find and (portable) awk is ok and already used eg for charsets stuff. From unknown Mon Jun 23 00:36:20 2025 X-Loop: help-debbugs@gnu.org Subject: bug#25360: File mode specification errors during building Resent-From: Glenn Morris Original-Sender: "Debbugs-submit" Resent-CC: bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org Resent-Date: Mon, 13 Feb 2017 02:17:02 +0000 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-Sender: help-debbugs@gnu.org X-GNU-PR-Message: followup 25360 X-GNU-PR-Package: emacs X-GNU-PR-Keywords: To: Eli Zaretskii Cc: 25360@debbugs.gnu.org, Phillip Lord , npostavs@users.sourceforge.net Received: via spool by 25360-submit@debbugs.gnu.org id=B25360.148695218330051 (code B ref 25360); Mon, 13 Feb 2017 02:17:02 +0000 Received: (at 25360) by debbugs.gnu.org; 13 Feb 2017 02:16:23 +0000 Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:37611 helo=debbugs.gnu.org) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1cd6Bj-0007od-Ai for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Sun, 12 Feb 2017 21:16:23 -0500 Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([208.118.235.92]:40883) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1cd6Bi-0007oR-5E for 25360@debbugs.gnu.org; Sun, 12 Feb 2017 21:16:22 -0500 Received: from Debian-exim by eggs.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1cd6Bb-0006kZ-Gt for 25360@debbugs.gnu.org; Sun, 12 Feb 2017 21:16:16 -0500 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.3.2 (2011-06-06) on eggs.gnu.org X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=0.8 required=5.0 tests=BAYES_50,RP_MATCHES_RCVD autolearn=disabled version=3.3.2 Received: from fencepost.gnu.org ([2001:4830:134:3::e]:52683) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1cd6AZ-0006bA-UN; Sun, 12 Feb 2017 21:15:11 -0500 Received: from rgm by fencepost.gnu.org with local (Exim 4.82) (envelope-from ) id 1cd6AZ-0004D6-6L; Sun, 12 Feb 2017 21:15:11 -0500 From: Glenn Morris References: <87inpj1288.fsf@russet.org.uk> <834m13caay.fsf@gnu.org> <87k29ylk8h.fsf@russet.org.uk> <87mvest1vz.fsf@russet.org.uk> <87h94zyj5s.fsf@users.sourceforge.net> <1760ldfurw.fsf@fencepost.gnu.org> <87k29t4a3d.fsf@russet.org.uk> <8737ghxjce.fsf@users.sourceforge.net> <8737gf8h0g.fsf@russet.org.uk> <83k29r6nnw.fsf@gnu.org> <87lgu4qfst.fsf@russet.org.uk> <874m0q7xo6.fsf@russet.org.uk> <83a8ah4wh8.fsf@gnu.org> <87fuk839l7.fsf@russet.org.uk> <83tw8o3169.fsf@gnu.org> <87o9yfzk3z.fsf@russet.org.uk> <83h94772di.fsf@gnu.org> X-Spook: Al Qaida Arellano-Felix president jihad Black out Stuck X-Ran: [f9d>B'Lgx,vX|X$aRWy)CWC=%(Pd{4A6MGMjb! X-Hue: brightwhite X-Attribution: GM Date: Sun, 12 Feb 2017 21:15:11 -0500 In-Reply-To: (Glenn Morris's message of "Sun, 12 Feb 2017 21:06:10 -0500") Message-ID: User-Agent: Gnus (www.gnus.org), GNU Emacs (www.gnu.org/software/emacs/) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain X-detected-operating-system: by eggs.gnu.org: GNU/Linux 2.2.x-3.x [generic] X-Received-From: 2001:4830:134:3::e X-Spam-Score: -5.0 (-----) X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18 Precedence: list List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Sender: "Debbugs-submit" X-Spam-Score: -5.0 (-----) Glenn Morris wrote: > BTW, I think this loaddefs stuff is now giving a bootstrap failure > related to the "used to be in ldefs-boot" string-to-list. > > http://hydra.nixos.org/build/48432485 Since it's impossible to predict which autoloaded functions are going to be needed in future bootstraps, no longer having a comprehensive ldefs-boot seems to mean more cryptic failures of this sort are inevitable. (Previously, this kind of thing could only happen if a new autoload was added that was needed for bootstrap, which was rare and hopefully obvious.) From unknown Mon Jun 23 00:36:20 2025 X-Loop: help-debbugs@gnu.org Subject: bug#25360: File mode specification errors during building Resent-From: Glenn Morris Original-Sender: "Debbugs-submit" Resent-CC: bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org Resent-Date: Mon, 13 Feb 2017 02:24:01 +0000 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-Sender: help-debbugs@gnu.org X-GNU-PR-Message: followup 25360 X-GNU-PR-Package: emacs X-GNU-PR-Keywords: To: Eli Zaretskii Cc: 25360@debbugs.gnu.org, Phillip Lord , npostavs@users.sourceforge.net Received: via spool by 25360-submit@debbugs.gnu.org id=B25360.148695261130677 (code B ref 25360); Mon, 13 Feb 2017 02:24:01 +0000 Received: (at 25360) by debbugs.gnu.org; 13 Feb 2017 02:23:31 +0000 Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:37617 helo=debbugs.gnu.org) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1cd6Id-0007yj-1e for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Sun, 12 Feb 2017 21:23:31 -0500 Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([208.118.235.92]:41923) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1cd6Ib-0007yV-U4 for 25360@debbugs.gnu.org; Sun, 12 Feb 2017 21:23:30 -0500 Received: from Debian-exim by eggs.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1cd6IV-0007lH-TK for 25360@debbugs.gnu.org; Sun, 12 Feb 2017 21:23:24 -0500 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.3.2 (2011-06-06) on eggs.gnu.org X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-1.9 required=5.0 tests=BAYES_00,RP_MATCHES_RCVD autolearn=disabled version=3.3.2 Received: from fencepost.gnu.org ([2001:4830:134:3::e]:52722) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1cd6Hb-0007Xv-KC; Sun, 12 Feb 2017 21:22:27 -0500 Received: from rgm by fencepost.gnu.org with local (Exim 4.82) (envelope-from ) id 1cd6Ha-0004f2-4o; Sun, 12 Feb 2017 21:22:26 -0500 From: Glenn Morris References: <834m13caay.fsf@gnu.org> <87k29ylk8h.fsf@russet.org.uk> <87mvest1vz.fsf@russet.org.uk> <87h94zyj5s.fsf@users.sourceforge.net> <1760ldfurw.fsf@fencepost.gnu.org> <87k29t4a3d.fsf@russet.org.uk> <8737ghxjce.fsf@users.sourceforge.net> <8737gf8h0g.fsf@russet.org.uk> <83k29r6nnw.fsf@gnu.org> <87lgu4qfst.fsf@russet.org.uk> <874m0q7xo6.fsf@russet.org.uk> <83a8ah4wh8.fsf@gnu.org> <87fuk839l7.fsf@russet.org.uk> <83tw8o3169.fsf@gnu.org> <87o9yfzk3z.fsf@russet.org.uk> <83h94772di.fsf@gnu.org> X-Spook: Palestine Liberation Organization defense information X-Ran: &|+Gm!Q7hYY (Glenn Morris's message of "Sun, 12 Feb 2017 21:15:11 -0500") Message-ID: User-Agent: Gnus (www.gnus.org), GNU Emacs (www.gnu.org/software/emacs/) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain X-detected-operating-system: by eggs.gnu.org: GNU/Linux 2.2.x-3.x [generic] X-Received-From: 2001:4830:134:3::e X-Spam-Score: -5.0 (-----) X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18 Precedence: list List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Sender: "Debbugs-submit" X-Spam-Score: -5.0 (-----) Actually, now that I think a bit more, maybe this would have always failed, with "attempt to autoload while preparing to dump". 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The original message has been attached to this so you can view it or label similar future email. If you have any questions, see the administrator of that system for details. Content preview: Glenn Morris writes: > Glenn Morris wrote: > >> BTW, I think this loaddefs stuff is now giving a bootstrap failure >> related to the "used to be in ldefs-boot" string-to-list. >> >> http://hydra.nixos.org/build/48432485 > > Since it's impossible to predict which autoloaded functions are going to > be needed in future bootstraps, no longer having a comprehensive > ldefs-boot seems to mean more cryptic failures of this sort are inevitable. > (Previously, this kind of thing could only happen if a new autoload > was added that was needed for bootstrap, which was rare and hopefully > obvious.) 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Content preview: Glenn Morris writes: > Glenn Morris wrote: > >> BTW, I think this loaddefs stuff is now giving a bootstrap failure >> related to the "used to be in ldefs-boot" string-to-list. >> >> http://hydra.nixos.org/build/48432485 > > Since it's impossible to predict which autoloaded functions are going to > be needed in future bootstraps, no longer having a comprehensive > ldefs-boot seems to mean more cryptic failures of this sort are inevitable. > (Previously, this kind of thing could only happen if a new autoload > was added that was needed for bootstrap, which was rare and hopefully > obvious.) [...] Content analysis details: (1.1 points, 10.0 required) pts rule name description ---- ---------------------- -------------------------------------------------- 1.1 TRACKER_ID BODY: Incorporates a tracking ID number 0.0 T_DKIM_INVALID DKIM-Signature header exists but is not valid Glenn Morris writes: > Glenn Morris wrote: > >> BTW, I think this loaddefs stuff is now giving a bootstrap failure >> related to the "used to be in ldefs-boot" string-to-list. >> >> http://hydra.nixos.org/build/48432485 > > Since it's impossible to predict which autoloaded functions are going to > be needed in future bootstraps, no longer having a comprehensive > ldefs-boot seems to mean more cryptic failures of this sort are inevitabl= e. > (Previously, this kind of thing could only happen if a new autoload > was added that was needed for bootstrap, which was rare and hopefully > obvious.) Yes, you are correct; how often this would happen was the unknown question. I have checked this bug. I got it to reproduce after I realised that you'd fixed it on master. First, "make generate-ldefs-boot" does work correctly update ldefs-boot-auto.el, actually by including "with-coding-priority". This isn't as clean as I would hope because make generate-ldefs-boot won't run from a clean checkout in these circumstances. Second, I tracked down the cause of the problem -- in this case, it's d8cca4d8c56a90ec9215d7bfb0b0edfa3a36ad4f Specifically, it's here: -(defcustom query-replace-from-to-separator - (propertize (if (char-displayable-p ?=E2=86=92) " =E2=86=92 " " -> ") - 'face 'minibuffer-prompt) - "String that separates FROM and TO in the history of replacement pairs." - ;; Avoids error when attempt to autoload char-displayable-p fails - ;; while preparing to dump, also stops customize-rogue listing this. - :initialize 'custom-initialize-delay +(defcustom query-replace-from-to-separator " =E2=86=92 " + "String that separates FROM and TO in the history of replacement pairs. +When nil, the pair will not be added to the history (same behavior +as in emacs 24.5)." :group 'matching - :type '(choice string (sexp :tag "Display specification")) + :type '(choice + (const :tag "Disabled" nil) + string) Before this, the call to char-displayable-p would have forced loading of mule-utils.el. Unfortunately, as you say this is not predictable from the commit. You have to know that char-displayable-p is autoloaded *and* that it is this call to it which is forcing load of mule-utils (and also the associated functions). It's also not possible to detect without a bootstrap build: hydra gives this feedback pretty quickly, but obviously having trunk broken for any time is not ideal. Solutions: 1) Wait -- it's possible that this will be a rare occurence, and it leaves us with a better understanding of how bootstrap works. My code is mostly working as intended. 2) Revert and replace with a non-emacs mechanism for generated ldefs-boot.el, which is likely to be awk. This would solve this issue (as well as the "new autoload for bootstrap" problem). It might introduce a problem because we'd have two different mechanisms for making autoload files. 3) Revert and decide this is more effort than it's worth 4) Add "make ldefs-generate-boot" to the git commit hook. I'm wavering between 1 and 2; for the latter I'll have to learn awk. Number 4 wasn't a serious suggestion. Phil From unknown Mon Jun 23 00:36:20 2025 X-Loop: help-debbugs@gnu.org Subject: bug#25360: File mode specification errors during building Resent-From: Glenn Morris Original-Sender: "Debbugs-submit" Resent-CC: bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org Resent-Date: Sun, 19 Feb 2017 00:38:01 +0000 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-Sender: help-debbugs@gnu.org X-GNU-PR-Message: followup 25360 X-GNU-PR-Package: emacs X-GNU-PR-Keywords: To: phillip.lord@russet.org.uk (Phillip Lord) Cc: Eli Zaretskii , 25360@debbugs.gnu.org, npostavs@users.sourceforge.net Received: via spool by 25360-submit@debbugs.gnu.org id=B25360.148746463320963 (code B ref 25360); Sun, 19 Feb 2017 00:38:01 +0000 Received: (at 25360) by debbugs.gnu.org; 19 Feb 2017 00:37:13 +0000 Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:45477 helo=debbugs.gnu.org) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1cfFV3-0005S3-NH for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Sat, 18 Feb 2017 19:37:13 -0500 Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([208.118.235.92]:46397) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1cfFV2-0005Rp-Cn for 25360@debbugs.gnu.org; Sat, 18 Feb 2017 19:37:12 -0500 Received: from Debian-exim by eggs.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1cfFUw-0003FW-Gc for 25360@debbugs.gnu.org; Sat, 18 Feb 2017 19:37:07 -0500 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.3.2 (2011-06-06) on eggs.gnu.org X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-1.9 required=5.0 tests=BAYES_00,RP_MATCHES_RCVD autolearn=disabled version=3.3.2 Received: from fencepost.gnu.org ([2001:4830:134:3::e]:53145) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1cfFTx-00036F-3y; Sat, 18 Feb 2017 19:36:05 -0500 Received: from rgm by fencepost.gnu.org with local (Exim 4.82) (envelope-from ) id 1cfFTw-0005XA-9l; Sat, 18 Feb 2017 19:36:04 -0500 From: Glenn Morris References: <87k29ylk8h.fsf@russet.org.uk> <87mvest1vz.fsf@russet.org.uk> <87h94zyj5s.fsf@users.sourceforge.net> <1760ldfurw.fsf@fencepost.gnu.org> <87k29t4a3d.fsf@russet.org.uk> <8737ghxjce.fsf@users.sourceforge.net> <8737gf8h0g.fsf@russet.org.uk> <83k29r6nnw.fsf@gnu.org> <87lgu4qfst.fsf@russet.org.uk> <874m0q7xo6.fsf@russet.org.uk> <83a8ah4wh8.fsf@gnu.org> <87fuk839l7.fsf@russet.org.uk> <83tw8o3169.fsf@gnu.org> <87o9yfzk3z.fsf@russet.org.uk> <83h94772di.fsf@gnu.org> <878tp8sx4l.fsf@russet.org.uk> X-Spook: clandestine Air Marshal Gang spies AQAP Disaster X-Ran: ncn0Wpf*{u_\aX$h?+s~e9rSOE`~D|}C++!s#:3N6[&f'$z;c5lG (Phillip Lord's message of "Tue, 14 Feb 2017 13:46:50 +0000") Message-ID: User-Agent: Gnus (www.gnus.org), GNU Emacs (www.gnu.org/software/emacs/) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain X-detected-operating-system: by eggs.gnu.org: GNU/Linux 2.2.x-3.x [generic] X-Received-From: 2001:4830:134:3::e X-Spam-Score: -5.0 (-----) X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18 Precedence: list List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Sender: "Debbugs-submit" X-Spam-Score: -5.0 (-----) Another issue that I think is related to this: Now there are lots of free variable (and unused lexical, due to missing defvars) warnings during bootstrapping, about autoloaded variables. The new ldefs stuff doesn't seem to handle variables at all? Ref eg http://hydra.nixos.org/build/48993155/log/raw In toplevel form: files.el:750:1:Warning: Unused lexical variable `tramp-mode' In directory-files-recursively: files.el:761:10:Warning: reference to free variable `tramp-mode' In find-alternate-file: files.el:1740:17:Warning: reference to free variable `dired-directory' files.el:1750:15:Warning: assignment to free variable `dired-directory' etc From unknown Mon Jun 23 00:36:20 2025 X-Loop: help-debbugs@gnu.org Subject: bug#25360: File mode specification errors during building Resent-From: phillip.lord@russet.org.uk (Phillip Lord) Original-Sender: "Debbugs-submit" Resent-CC: bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org Resent-Date: Sun, 19 Feb 2017 21:42:02 +0000 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-Sender: help-debbugs@gnu.org X-GNU-PR-Message: followup 25360 X-GNU-PR-Package: emacs X-GNU-PR-Keywords: To: Glenn Morris Cc: Eli Zaretskii , 25360@debbugs.gnu.org, npostavs@users.sourceforge.net Received: via spool by 25360-submit@debbugs.gnu.org id=B25360.14875404679849 (code B ref 25360); Sun, 19 Feb 2017 21:42:02 +0000 Received: (at 25360) by debbugs.gnu.org; 19 Feb 2017 21:41:07 +0000 Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:46555 helo=debbugs.gnu.org) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1cfZEA-0002Yn-Vl for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Sun, 19 Feb 2017 16:41:07 -0500 Received: from mailgw.mycpanelcloud.co.uk ([185.116.214.213]:45686) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1cfZE9-0002YB-0J for 25360@debbugs.gnu.org; Sun, 19 Feb 2017 16:41:05 -0500 Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mailgw.mycpanelcloud.co.uk (Postfix) with ESMTP id E9C7AC4E9E for <25360@debbugs.gnu.org>; Sun, 19 Feb 2017 21:40:32 +0000 (GMT) X-Virus-Scanned: by SpamTitan at mycpanelcloud.co.uk Received: from mailgw.mycpanelcloud.co.uk (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mailgw.mycpanelcloud.co.uk (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5E83CC4E73 for <25360@debbugs.gnu.org>; Sun, 19 Feb 2017 21:40:31 +0000 (GMT) Received: from cloud103.planethippo.com (cloud103.planethippo.com [31.216.48.48]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES256-GCM-SHA384 (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by mailgw.mycpanelcloud.co.uk (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 4ED77C4E33 for <25360@debbugs.gnu.org>; Sun, 19 Feb 2017 21:40:31 +0000 (GMT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; q=dns/txt; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=russet.org.uk; s=default; h=Content-Type:MIME-Version:Message-ID: In-Reply-To:Date:References:Subject:Cc:To:From:Sender:Reply-To: Content-Transfer-Encoding:Content-ID:Content-Description:Resent-Date: Resent-From:Resent-Sender:Resent-To:Resent-Cc:Resent-Message-ID:List-Id: List-Help:List-Unsubscribe:List-Subscribe:List-Post:List-Owner:List-Archive; bh=/6QUDUomVDGRjZOe5dIxDiJLKlj9bVA1rZFC0UGU7Os=; b=2hHuSQsEq1MLuc1EndraBD2pN DiBmJi5OJF+vqhPK7T4D6XeaNTSdws1M6+8DKyj/QH9/o1/HCM4F894VAN6lGzrH+5pB2eGcxVkTL lNzOC+GNjMcX0t4vCqInuU/lKb9T2xdEPJfA3C1rA9iAlbFW2L13B65fWP+EzI7GDvUFpJCBsGrHA 1c+Ad+yAcZTroMILYhQpoRHtYFNzl8cM4iZPk4OSCxPqySypa988+DCLs3EnMIJ1QAvr76xtN6ATF dkSTBHejFUmDHjhNh94P9KhYojdwbiru+L88ujNpbOiYNxouKV8/2Rf1V8EuwhEUDSm2nkcKQbd+X S7t0KfWeg==; Received: from cpc6-benw10-2-0-cust167.gate.cable.virginm.net ([92.238.179.168]:37950 helo=russet.org.uk) by cloud103.planethippo.com with esmtpsa (TLSv1.2:ECDHE-RSA-AES128-GCM-SHA256:128) (Exim 4.87) (envelope-from ) id 1cfZE0-0026Mv-GT; Sun, 19 Feb 2017 21:40:57 +0000 From: phillip.lord@russet.org.uk (Phillip Lord) References: <87mvest1vz.fsf@russet.org.uk> <87h94zyj5s.fsf@users.sourceforge.net> <1760ldfurw.fsf@fencepost.gnu.org> <87k29t4a3d.fsf@russet.org.uk> <8737ghxjce.fsf@users.sourceforge.net> <8737gf8h0g.fsf@russet.org.uk> <83k29r6nnw.fsf@gnu.org> <87lgu4qfst.fsf@russet.org.uk> <874m0q7xo6.fsf@russet.org.uk> <83a8ah4wh8.fsf@gnu.org> <87fuk839l7.fsf@russet.org.uk> <83tw8o3169.fsf@gnu.org> <87o9yfzk3z.fsf@russet.org.uk> <83h94772di.fsf@gnu.org> <878tp8sx4l.fsf@russet.org.uk> Date: Sun, 19 Feb 2017 21:40:53 +0000 In-Reply-To: (Glenn Morris's message of "Sat, 18 Feb 2017 19:36:04 -0500") Message-ID: <87k28loo4a.fsf@russet.org.uk> User-Agent: Gnus/5.13 (Gnus v5.13) Emacs/25.1.50 (gnu/linux) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain X-AntiAbuse: This header was added to track abuse, please include it with any abuse report X-AntiAbuse: Primary Hostname - cloud103.planethippo.com X-AntiAbuse: Original Domain - debbugs.gnu.org X-AntiAbuse: Originator/Caller UID/GID - [47 12] / [47 12] X-AntiAbuse: Sender Address Domain - russet.org.uk X-Get-Message-Sender-Via: cloud103.planethippo.com: authenticated_id: phillip.lord@russet.org.uk X-Authenticated-Sender: cloud103.planethippo.com: phillip.lord@russet.org.uk X-Spam-Score: 0.0 (/) X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18 Precedence: list List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Sender: "Debbugs-submit" X-Spam-Score: 0.0 (/) No, it doesn't, and I can see no obvious way of achieving this. Perhaps it doesn't matter. These warnings will only occur during a full bootstrap. So just switching the warnings off during bootstrap would solve the problem. But this is also unsatisfying in other ways, and probably more unsatisfying that just having ldefs-boot.el as before. I have thought about the awk solution also. This seems to me to be pretty hard, simply because the rules for doing autoloads are complicated. Another possibility is to shrink loadup.el so that bootstrap-emacs is more limited in functionality still. At this point, though, I have to admit that I am leaning toward just reverting. Phil Glenn Morris writes: > Another issue that I think is related to this: > Now there are lots of free variable (and unused lexical, due to missing > defvars) warnings during bootstrapping, about autoloaded variables. The > new ldefs stuff doesn't seem to handle variables at all? > > Ref eg > http://hydra.nixos.org/build/48993155/log/raw > > In toplevel form: > files.el:750:1:Warning: Unused lexical variable `tramp-mode' > > In directory-files-recursively: > files.el:761:10:Warning: reference to free variable `tramp-mode' > > In find-alternate-file: > files.el:1740:17:Warning: reference to free variable `dired-directory' > files.el:1750:15:Warning: assignment to free variable `dired-directory' > > etc From unknown Mon Jun 23 00:36:20 2025 X-Loop: help-debbugs@gnu.org Subject: bug#25360: File mode specification errors during building Resent-From: Glenn Morris Original-Sender: "Debbugs-submit" Resent-CC: bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org Resent-Date: Wed, 22 Feb 2017 19:10:02 +0000 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-Sender: help-debbugs@gnu.org X-GNU-PR-Message: followup 25360 X-GNU-PR-Package: emacs X-GNU-PR-Keywords: To: phillip.lord@russet.org.uk (Phillip Lord) Cc: Eli Zaretskii , 25360@debbugs.gnu.org, npostavs@users.sourceforge.net Received: via spool by 25360-submit@debbugs.gnu.org id=B25360.148779054525146 (code B ref 25360); Wed, 22 Feb 2017 19:10:02 +0000 Received: (at 25360) by debbugs.gnu.org; 22 Feb 2017 19:09:05 +0000 Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:51530 helo=debbugs.gnu.org) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1cgcHh-0006XW-5C for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Wed, 22 Feb 2017 14:09:05 -0500 Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([208.118.235.92]:48188) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1cgcHf-0006WJ-32 for 25360@debbugs.gnu.org; Wed, 22 Feb 2017 14:09:03 -0500 Received: from Debian-exim by eggs.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1cgcHZ-0007KL-3Y for 25360@debbugs.gnu.org; Wed, 22 Feb 2017 14:08:58 -0500 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.3.2 (2011-06-06) on eggs.gnu.org X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=0.8 required=5.0 tests=BAYES_50,RP_MATCHES_RCVD autolearn=disabled version=3.3.2 Received: from fencepost.gnu.org ([2001:4830:134:3::e]:55528) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1cgcGl-00072R-L8; Wed, 22 Feb 2017 14:08:07 -0500 Received: from rgm by fencepost.gnu.org with local (Exim 4.82) (envelope-from ) id 1cgcGk-0005iT-WA; Wed, 22 Feb 2017 14:08:07 -0500 From: Glenn Morris References: <87mvest1vz.fsf@russet.org.uk> <87h94zyj5s.fsf@users.sourceforge.net> <1760ldfurw.fsf@fencepost.gnu.org> <87k29t4a3d.fsf@russet.org.uk> <8737ghxjce.fsf@users.sourceforge.net> <8737gf8h0g.fsf@russet.org.uk> <83k29r6nnw.fsf@gnu.org> <87lgu4qfst.fsf@russet.org.uk> <874m0q7xo6.fsf@russet.org.uk> <83a8ah4wh8.fsf@gnu.org> <87fuk839l7.fsf@russet.org.uk> <83tw8o3169.fsf@gnu.org> <87o9yfzk3z.fsf@russet.org.uk> <83h94772di.fsf@gnu.org> <878tp8sx4l.fsf@russet.org.uk> <87k28loo4a.fsf@russet.org.uk> X-Spook: Erosion Vince Foster INS Weapons cache Human to Human X-Ran: zpwSpg>u"CCmY5k1M.lF{lIlLsJQILX)"hP[=ry"3`Msy#zp5nJrt!$t%(BothK^2nw7PD X-Hue: blue X-Attribution: GM Date: Wed, 22 Feb 2017 14:08:06 -0500 In-Reply-To: <87k28loo4a.fsf@russet.org.uk> (Phillip Lord's message of "Sun, 19 Feb 2017 21:40:53 +0000") Message-ID: User-Agent: Gnus (www.gnus.org), GNU Emacs (www.gnu.org/software/emacs/) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain X-detected-operating-system: by eggs.gnu.org: GNU/Linux 2.2.x-3.x [generic] X-Received-From: 2001:4830:134:3::e X-Spam-Score: -5.0 (-----) X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18 Precedence: list List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Sender: "Debbugs-submit" X-Spam-Score: -5.0 (-----) Phillip Lord wrote: > These warnings will only occur during a full bootstrap. IMO that's the only way to do a proper build with informative warnings. > So just switching the warnings off during bootstrap would solve the > problem. But then we can't spot when a "real" warning appears. > But this is also unsatisfying in other ways, and probably more > unsatisfying that just having ldefs-boot.el as before. Agreed. > I have thought about the awk solution also. This seems to me to be > pretty hard, simply because the rules for doing autoloads are > complicated. Agreed. > At this point, though, I have to admit that I am leaning toward just > reverting. I feel the same. I don't think the old system was causing any problems. 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Received: from janus-nat-128-240-225-75.ncl.ac.uk ([128.240.225.75]:48609 helo=russet.org.uk) by cloud103.planethippo.com with esmtpsa (TLSv1.2:ECDHE-RSA-AES256-GCM-SHA384:256) (Exim 4.88) (envelope-from ) id 1cj7Xf-0002bc-0Q; Wed, 01 Mar 2017 16:55:55 +0000 From: phillip.lord@russet.org.uk (Phillip Lord) References: <87mvest1vz.fsf@russet.org.uk> <87h94zyj5s.fsf@users.sourceforge.net> <1760ldfurw.fsf@fencepost.gnu.org> <87k29t4a3d.fsf@russet.org.uk> <8737ghxjce.fsf@users.sourceforge.net> <8737gf8h0g.fsf@russet.org.uk> <83k29r6nnw.fsf@gnu.org> <87lgu4qfst.fsf@russet.org.uk> <874m0q7xo6.fsf@russet.org.uk> <83a8ah4wh8.fsf@gnu.org> <87fuk839l7.fsf@russet.org.uk> <83tw8o3169.fsf@gnu.org> <87o9yfzk3z.fsf@russet.org.uk> <83h94772di.fsf@gnu.org> <878tp8sx4l.fsf@russet.org.uk> <87k28loo4a.fsf@russet.org.uk> Date: Wed, 01 Mar 2017 16:55:54 +0000 In-Reply-To: <87k28loo4a.fsf@russet.org.uk> (Phillip Lord's message of "Sun, 19 Feb 2017 21:40:53 +0000") Message-ID: <8737ex0wdh.fsf@russet.org.uk> User-Agent: Gnus/5.13 (Gnus v5.13) Emacs/25.2 (gnu/linux) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain X-AntiAbuse: This header was added to track abuse, please include it with any abuse report X-AntiAbuse: Primary Hostname - cloud103.planethippo.com X-AntiAbuse: Original Domain - debbugs.gnu.org X-AntiAbuse: Originator/Caller UID/GID - [47 12] / [47 12] X-AntiAbuse: Sender Address Domain - russet.org.uk X-Get-Message-Sender-Via: cloud103.planethippo.com: authenticated_id: phillip.lord@russet.org.uk X-Authenticated-Sender: cloud103.planethippo.com: phillip.lord@russet.org.uk X-Source: X-Source-Args: X-Source-Dir: X-Spam-Score: 0.0 (/) X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18 Precedence: list List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Sender: "Debbugs-submit" X-Spam-Score: 0.0 (/) I've added changes to master which means that ldefs-boot-auto can be regenerated without a bootstrap build. If the build breaks again, it can be refixed rapidly now. I'll leave this for a while. If it breaks often, I'll revert, but only time can tell. Phil phillip.lord@russet.org.uk (Phillip Lord) writes: > No, it doesn't, and I can see no obvious way of achieving this. > > Perhaps it doesn't matter. These warnings will only occur during a full > bootstrap. So just switching the warnings off during bootstrap would > solve the problem. But this is also unsatisfying in other ways, and > probably more unsatisfying that just having ldefs-boot.el as before. > > I have thought about the awk solution also. This seems to me to be > pretty hard, simply because the rules for doing autoloads are > complicated. Another possibility is to shrink loadup.el so that > bootstrap-emacs is more limited in functionality still. > > At this point, though, I have to admit that I am leaning toward just > reverting. > > Phil > > Glenn Morris writes: > >> Another issue that I think is related to this: >> Now there are lots of free variable (and unused lexical, due to missing >> defvars) warnings during bootstrapping, about autoloaded variables. The >> new ldefs stuff doesn't seem to handle variables at all? >> >> Ref eg >> http://hydra.nixos.org/build/48993155/log/raw >> >> In toplevel form: >> files.el:750:1:Warning: Unused lexical variable `tramp-mode' >> >> In directory-files-recursively: >> files.el:761:10:Warning: reference to free variable `tramp-mode' >> >> In find-alternate-file: >> files.el:1740:17:Warning: reference to free variable `dired-directory' >> files.el:1750:15:Warning: assignment to free variable `dired-directory' >> >> etc From unknown Mon Jun 23 00:36:20 2025 X-Loop: help-debbugs@gnu.org Subject: bug#25360: File mode specification errors during building Resent-From: Eli Zaretskii Original-Sender: "Debbugs-submit" Resent-CC: bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org Resent-Date: Thu, 02 Mar 2017 15:22:02 +0000 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-Sender: help-debbugs@gnu.org X-GNU-PR-Message: followup 25360 X-GNU-PR-Package: emacs X-GNU-PR-Keywords: To: phillip.lord@russet.org.uk (Phillip Lord) Cc: rgm@gnu.org, 25360@debbugs.gnu.org, npostavs@users.sourceforge.net Reply-To: Eli Zaretskii Received: via spool by 25360-submit@debbugs.gnu.org id=B25360.148846808425589 (code B ref 25360); Thu, 02 Mar 2017 15:22:02 +0000 Received: (at 25360) by debbugs.gnu.org; 2 Mar 2017 15:21:24 +0000 Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:36709 helo=debbugs.gnu.org) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1cjSXk-0006ef-3A for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Thu, 02 Mar 2017 10:21:24 -0500 Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([208.118.235.92]:38505) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1cjSXi-0006eT-R0 for 25360@debbugs.gnu.org; Thu, 02 Mar 2017 10:21:23 -0500 Received: from Debian-exim by eggs.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1cjSXY-0002Ku-Sl for 25360@debbugs.gnu.org; Thu, 02 Mar 2017 10:21:17 -0500 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.3.2 (2011-06-06) on eggs.gnu.org X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=0.8 required=5.0 tests=BAYES_50,RP_MATCHES_RCVD autolearn=disabled version=3.3.2 Received: from fencepost.gnu.org ([2001:4830:134:3::e]:57413) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1cjSXY-0002Kq-P9; Thu, 02 Mar 2017 10:21:12 -0500 Received: from 84.94.185.246.cable.012.net.il ([84.94.185.246]:1804 helo=home-c4e4a596f7) by fencepost.gnu.org with esmtpsa (TLS1.2:RSA_AES_256_CBC_SHA1:256) (Exim 4.82) (envelope-from ) id 1cjSXX-0003Q1-Ii; Thu, 02 Mar 2017 10:21:12 -0500 Date: Thu, 02 Mar 2017 17:20:52 +0200 Message-Id: <83tw7bn1rf.fsf@gnu.org> From: Eli Zaretskii In-reply-to: <8737ex0wdh.fsf@russet.org.uk> (phillip.lord@russet.org.uk) References: <87mvest1vz.fsf@russet.org.uk> <87h94zyj5s.fsf@users.sourceforge.net> <1760ldfurw.fsf@fencepost.gnu.org> <87k29t4a3d.fsf@russet.org.uk> <8737ghxjce.fsf@users.sourceforge.net> <8737gf8h0g.fsf@russet.org.uk> <83k29r6nnw.fsf@gnu.org> <87lgu4qfst.fsf@russet.org.uk> <874m0q7xo6.fsf@russet.org.uk> <83a8ah4wh8.fsf@gnu.org> <87fuk839l7.fsf@russet.org.uk> <83tw8o3169.fsf@gnu.org> <87o9yfzk3z.fsf@russet.org.uk> <83h94772di.fsf@gnu.org> <878tp8sx4l.fsf@russet.org.uk> <87k28loo4a.fsf@russet.org.uk> <8737ex0wdh.fsf@russet.org.uk> X-detected-operating-system: by eggs.gnu.org: GNU/Linux 2.2.x-3.x [generic] X-Received-From: 2001:4830:134:3::e X-Spam-Score: -5.0 (-----) X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18 Precedence: list List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Sender: "Debbugs-submit" X-Spam-Score: -5.0 (-----) > From: phillip.lord@russet.org.uk (Phillip Lord) > Date: Wed, 01 Mar 2017 16:55:54 +0000 > Cc: npostavs@users.sourceforge.net, 25360@debbugs.gnu.org > > > I've added changes to master which means that ldefs-boot-auto can be > regenerated without a bootstrap build. If the build breaks again, it can > be refixed rapidly now. I'll leave this for a while. If it breaks often, > I'll revert, but only time can tell. I see multiple error messages about w32-convert-standard-filename during a normal build: Loading d:/gnu/git/emacs/trunk/lisp/leim/leim-list.el (source)... Finding pointers to doc strings... Finding pointers to doc strings...done Dumping under the name emacs Dump memory usage: Heap: 9953280 Large blocks(0/1): 0/786448 Dumping from d:/gnu/git/emacs/trunk/src/temacs.exe to d:/gnu/git/emacs/trunk/src/emacs.exe 49515 pure bytes used mv -f emacs.exe bootstrap-emacs.exe make -C ../lisp compile-first EMACS="../src/bootstrap-emacs.exe" make[2]: Entering directory `/d/gnu/git/emacs/trunk/lisp' GEN mh-e/mh-loaddefs.el Symbol's function definition is void: w32-convert-standard-filename Directories for loaddefs: . ./calc ./calendar ./cedet ./cedet/ede ./cedet/semantic ./cedet/semantic/analyze ./cedet/semantic/bovine ./cedet/semantic/decorate ./cedet/semantic/symref ./cedet/semantic/wisent ./cedet/srecode ./emacs-lisp ./emulation ./erc ./eshell ./gnus ./image ./international ./language ./leim ./leim/ja-dic ./leim/quail ./mail ./mh-e ./net ./nxml ./org ./play ./progmodes ./textmodes ./url ./vc GEN loaddefs.el Symbol's function definition is void: w32-convert-standard-filename make[2]: Leaving directory `/d/gnu/git/emacs/trunk/lisp' make -C ../lisp autoloads EMACS="../src/bootstrap-emacs.exe" make -C ../admin/unidata all EMACS="../../src/bootstrap-emacs.exe" make -C ../leim leim-list.el EMACS="../src/bootstrap-emacs.exe" make[2]: Entering directory `/d/gnu/git/emacs/trunk/admin/unidata' make[2]: Entering directory `/d/gnu/git/emacs/trunk/leim' make[2]: Nothing to be done for `leim-list.el'. make[2]: Leaving directory `/d/gnu/git/emacs/trunk/leim' make[2]: Leaving directory `/d/gnu/git/emacs/trunk/admin/unidata' make[2]: Entering directory `/d/gnu/git/emacs/trunk/lisp' make[2]: Entering directory `/d/gnu/git/emacs/trunk/lisp' ELC ../lisp/files.elc GEN mh-e/mh-loaddefs.el make[2]: Entering directory `/d/gnu/git/emacs/trunk/lisp' ELC ../lisp/international/mule.elc Symbol's function definition is void: w32-convert-standard-filename Symbol's function definition is void: w32-convert-standard-filename make[2]: Leaving directory `/d/gnu/git/emacs/trunk/lisp' Symbol's function definition is void: w32-convert-standard-filename make[2]: Leaving directory `/d/gnu/git/emacs/trunk/lisp' Directories for loaddefs: . ./calc ./calendar ./cedet ./cedet/ede ./cedet/semantic ./cedet/semantic/analyze ./cedet/semantic/bovine ./cedet/semantic/decorate ./cedet/semantic/symref ./cedet/semantic/wisent ./cedet/srecode ./emacs-lisp ./emulation ./erc ./eshell ./gnus ./image ./international ./language ./leim ./leim/ja-dic ./leim/quail ./mail ./mh-e ./net ./nxml ./org ./play ./progmodes ./textmodes ./url ./vc GEN loaddefs.el Symbol's function definition is void: w32-convert-standard-filename From unknown Mon Jun 23 00:36:20 2025 X-Loop: help-debbugs@gnu.org Subject: bug#25360: File mode specification errors during building Resent-From: martin rudalics Original-Sender: "Debbugs-submit" Resent-CC: bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org Resent-Date: Thu, 02 Mar 2017 17:58:01 +0000 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-Sender: help-debbugs@gnu.org X-GNU-PR-Message: followup 25360 X-GNU-PR-Package: emacs X-GNU-PR-Keywords: To: Eli Zaretskii , Phillip Lord Cc: 25360@debbugs.gnu.org, npostavs@users.sourceforge.net Received: via spool by 25360-submit@debbugs.gnu.org id=B25360.14884774807975 (code B ref 25360); 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The original message has been attached to this so you can view it or label similar future email. If you have any questions, see the administrator of that system for details. Content preview: > I see multiple error messages about w32-convert-standard-filename > during a normal build: I've seen them as well but eventually my build failed. During the subsequent bootstrap I don't recall seeing them. BTW, in the failing build I also saw some completely misspelled sentences with words like "Fffuuunctiiioonss" or the like. Queer. 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The original message has been attached to this so you can view it or label similar future email. If you have any questions, see the administrator of that system for details. Content preview: > I see multiple error messages about w32-convert-standard-filename > during a normal build: I've seen them as well but eventually my build failed. During the subsequent bootstrap I don't recall seeing them. BTW, in the failing build I also saw some completely misspelled sentences with words like "Fffuuunctiiioonss" or the like. Queer. [...] Content analysis details: (1.6 points, 10.0 required) pts rule name description ---- ---------------------- -------------------------------------------------- 2.4 RCVD_IN_SORBS_WEB RBL: SORBS: sender is an abusable web server [213.162.68.106 listed in dnsbl.sorbs.net] -0.1 RCVD_IN_MSPIKE_H2 RBL: Average reputation (+2) [212.227.15.19 listed in wl.mailspike.net] -0.7 RCVD_IN_DNSWL_LOW RBL: Sender listed at http://www.dnswl.org/, low trust [212.227.15.19 listed in list.dnswl.org] 0.0 FREEMAIL_FROM Sender email is commonly abused enduser mail provider (rudalics[at]gmx.at) -0.0 SPF_PASS SPF: sender matches SPF record > I see multiple error messages about w32-convert-standard-filename > during a normal build: I've seen them as well but eventually my build failed. During the subsequent bootstrap I don't recall seeing them. BTW, in the failing build I also saw some completely misspelled sentences with words like "Fffuuunctiiioonss" or the like. Queer. martin From unknown Mon Jun 23 00:36:20 2025 X-Loop: help-debbugs@gnu.org Subject: bug#25360: File mode specification errors during building Resent-From: Eli Zaretskii Original-Sender: "Debbugs-submit" Resent-CC: bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org Resent-Date: Thu, 02 Mar 2017 20:13:02 +0000 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-Sender: help-debbugs@gnu.org X-GNU-PR-Message: followup 25360 X-GNU-PR-Package: emacs X-GNU-PR-Keywords: To: martin rudalics Cc: 25360@debbugs.gnu.org, npostavs@users.sourceforge.net, phillip.lord@russet.org.uk Reply-To: Eli Zaretskii Received: via spool by 25360-submit@debbugs.gnu.org id=B25360.148848556327611 (code B ref 25360); Thu, 02 Mar 2017 20:13:02 +0000 Received: (at 25360) by debbugs.gnu.org; 2 Mar 2017 20:12:43 +0000 Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:36919 helo=debbugs.gnu.org) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1cjX5f-0007BG-JG for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Thu, 02 Mar 2017 15:12:43 -0500 Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([208.118.235.92]:47077) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1cjX5e-0007B2-8T for 25360@debbugs.gnu.org; Thu, 02 Mar 2017 15:12:42 -0500 Received: from Debian-exim by eggs.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1cjX5Y-0003dV-1y for 25360@debbugs.gnu.org; Thu, 02 Mar 2017 15:12:37 -0500 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.3.2 (2011-06-06) on eggs.gnu.org X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-1.9 required=5.0 tests=BAYES_00,RP_MATCHES_RCVD autolearn=disabled version=3.3.2 Received: from fencepost.gnu.org ([2001:4830:134:3::e]:33403) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1cjX5X-0003dL-Vl; Thu, 02 Mar 2017 15:12:36 -0500 Received: from 84.94.185.246.cable.012.net.il ([84.94.185.246]:2050 helo=home-c4e4a596f7) by fencepost.gnu.org with esmtpsa (TLS1.2:RSA_AES_256_CBC_SHA1:256) (Exim 4.82) (envelope-from ) id 1cjX5X-0001cD-Af; Thu, 02 Mar 2017 15:12:35 -0500 Date: Thu, 02 Mar 2017 22:12:17 +0200 Message-Id: <83innrmo9q.fsf@gnu.org> From: Eli Zaretskii In-reply-to: <58B85D12.5020209@gmx.at> (message from martin rudalics on Thu, 02 Mar 2017 18:57:38 +0100) References: <87mvest1vz.fsf@russet.org.uk> <87h94zyj5s.fsf@users.sourceforge.net> <1760ldfurw.fsf@fencepost.gnu.org> <87k29t4a3d.fsf@russet.org.uk> <8737ghxjce.fsf@users.sourceforge.net> <8737gf8h0g.fsf@russet.org.uk> <83k29r6nnw.fsf@gnu.org> <87lgu4qfst.fsf@russet.org.uk> <874m0q7xo6.fsf@russet.org.uk> <83a8ah4wh8.fsf@gnu.org> <87fuk839l7.fsf@russet.org.uk> <83tw8o3169.fsf@gnu.org> <87o9yfzk3z.fsf@russet.org.uk> <83h94772di.fsf@gnu.org> <878tp8sx4l.fsf@russet.org.uk> <87k28loo4a.fsf@russet.org.uk> <8737ex0wdh.fsf@russet.org.uk> <83tw7bn1rf.fsf@gnu.org> <58B85D12.5020209@gmx.at> X-detected-operating-system: by eggs.gnu.org: GNU/Linux 2.2.x-3.x [generic] X-Received-From: 2001:4830:134:3::e X-Spam-Score: -5.0 (-----) X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18 Precedence: list List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Sender: "Debbugs-submit" X-Spam-Score: -5.0 (-----) > Date: Thu, 02 Mar 2017 18:57:38 +0100 > From: martin rudalics > CC: npostavs@users.sourceforge.net, 25360@debbugs.gnu.org > > BTW, in the failing build I also saw some completely misspelled > sentences with words like "Fffuuunctiiioonss" or the like. Queer. That happens with parallel builds, when more than one instance of byte compilation displays the same text. Quite normal. From unknown Mon Jun 23 00:36:20 2025 X-Loop: help-debbugs@gnu.org Subject: bug#25360: File mode specification errors during building Resent-From: Eli Zaretskii Original-Sender: "Debbugs-submit" Resent-CC: bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org Resent-Date: Sat, 04 Mar 2017 10:03:01 +0000 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-Sender: help-debbugs@gnu.org X-GNU-PR-Message: followup 25360 X-GNU-PR-Package: emacs X-GNU-PR-Keywords: To: phillip.lord@russet.org.uk Cc: 25360@debbugs.gnu.org, npostavs@users.sourceforge.net Reply-To: Eli Zaretskii Received: via spool by 25360-submit@debbugs.gnu.org id=B25360.14886217753584 (code B ref 25360); Sat, 04 Mar 2017 10:03:01 +0000 Received: (at 25360) by debbugs.gnu.org; 4 Mar 2017 10:02:55 +0000 Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:39132 helo=debbugs.gnu.org) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1ck6Wb-0000vj-TS for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Sat, 04 Mar 2017 05:02:55 -0500 Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([208.118.235.92]:37012) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1ck6WZ-0000vS-MW for 25360@debbugs.gnu.org; Sat, 04 Mar 2017 05:02:52 -0500 Received: from Debian-exim by eggs.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1ck6WR-0007fm-Ex for 25360@debbugs.gnu.org; Sat, 04 Mar 2017 05:02:46 -0500 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.3.2 (2011-06-06) on eggs.gnu.org X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=0.8 required=5.0 tests=BAYES_50,RP_MATCHES_RCVD autolearn=disabled version=3.3.2 Received: from fencepost.gnu.org ([2001:4830:134:3::e]:44697) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1ck6WR-0007fi-Bo; Sat, 04 Mar 2017 05:02:43 -0500 Received: from 84.94.185.246.cable.012.net.il ([84.94.185.246]:3644 helo=home-c4e4a596f7) by fencepost.gnu.org with esmtpsa (TLS1.2:RSA_AES_256_CBC_SHA1:256) (Exim 4.82) (envelope-from ) id 1ck6WQ-000341-IO; Sat, 04 Mar 2017 05:02:43 -0500 Date: Sat, 04 Mar 2017 12:02:28 +0200 Message-Id: <83d1dxl5qj.fsf@gnu.org> From: Eli Zaretskii In-reply-to: <83tw7bn1rf.fsf@gnu.org> (message from Eli Zaretskii on Thu, 02 Mar 2017 17:20:52 +0200) References: <87mvest1vz.fsf@russet.org.uk> <87h94zyj5s.fsf@users.sourceforge.net> <1760ldfurw.fsf@fencepost.gnu.org> <87k29t4a3d.fsf@russet.org.uk> <8737ghxjce.fsf@users.sourceforge.net> <8737gf8h0g.fsf@russet.org.uk> <83k29r6nnw.fsf@gnu.org> <87lgu4qfst.fsf@russet.org.uk> <874m0q7xo6.fsf@russet.org.uk> <83a8ah4wh8.fsf@gnu.org> <87fuk839l7.fsf@russet.org.uk> <83tw8o3169.fsf@gnu.org> <87o9yfzk3z.fsf@russet.org.uk> <83h94772di.fsf@gnu.org> <878tp8sx4l.fsf@russet.org.uk> <87k28loo4a.fsf@russet.org.uk> <8737ex0wdh.fsf@russet.org.uk> <83tw7bn1rf.fsf@gnu.org> X-detected-operating-system: by eggs.gnu.org: GNU/Linux 2.2.x-3.x [generic] X-Received-From: 2001:4830:134:3::e X-Spam-Score: -5.0 (-----) X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18 Precedence: list List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Sender: "Debbugs-submit" X-Spam-Score: -5.0 (-----) > Date: Thu, 02 Mar 2017 17:20:52 +0200 > From: Eli Zaretskii > Cc: npostavs@users.sourceforge.net, 25360@debbugs.gnu.org > > make[2]: Entering directory `/d/gnu/git/emacs/trunk/lisp' > ELC ../lisp/files.elc > GEN mh-e/mh-loaddefs.el > make[2]: Entering directory `/d/gnu/git/emacs/trunk/lisp' > ELC ../lisp/international/mule.elc > Symbol's function definition is void: w32-convert-standard-filename > Symbol's function definition is void: w32-convert-standard-filename > make[2]: Leaving directory `/d/gnu/git/emacs/trunk/lisp' > Symbol's function definition is void: w32-convert-standard-filename > make[2]: Leaving directory `/d/gnu/git/emacs/trunk/lisp' > Directories for loaddefs: . ./calc ./calendar ./cedet ./cedet/ede ./cedet/semantic ./cedet/semantic/analyze ./cedet/semantic/bovine ./cedet/semantic/decorate ./cedet/semantic/symref ./cedet/semantic/wisent ./cedet/srecode ./emacs-lisp ./emulation ./erc ./eshell ./gnus ./image ./international ./language ./leim ./leim/ja-dic ./leim/quail ./mail ./mh-e ./net ./nxml ./org ./play ./progmodes ./textmodes ./url ./vc > GEN loaddefs.el > Symbol's function definition is void: w32-convert-standard-filename I still see these errors while building master. Here's the latest incarnation: Finding pointers to doc strings... Finding pointers to doc strings...done Dumping under the name emacs Dump memory usage: Heap: 9498624 Large blocks(0/1): 0/786448 Dumping from d:/gnu/git/emacs/trunk/src/temacs.exe to d:/gnu/git/emacs/trunk/src/emacs.exe 49515 pure bytes used mv -f emacs.exe bootstrap-emacs.exe make -C ../lisp compile-first EMACS="../src/bootstrap-emacs.exe" make[2]: Entering directory `/d/gnu/git/emacs/trunk/lisp' GEN mh-e/mh-loaddefs.el Symbol's function definition is void: w32-convert-standard-filename Directories for loaddefs: . ./calc ./calendar ./cedet ./cedet/ede ./cedet/semantic ./cedet/semantic/analyze ./cedet/semantic/bovine ./cedet/semantic/decorate ./cedet/semantic/symref ./cedet/semantic/wisent ./cedet/srecode ./emacs-lisp ./emulation ./erc ./eshell ./gnus ./image ./international ./language ./leim ./leim/ja-dic ./leim/quail ./mail ./mh-e ./net ./nxml ./org ./play ./progmodes ./textmodes ./url ./vc GEN loaddefs.el Symbol's function definition is void: w32-convert-standard-filename make[2]: Leaving directory `/d/gnu/git/emacs/trunk/lisp' The build succeeds nonetheless. Moreover, if I repeat the offending command ("make autoloads") manually, there are no error messages. w32-convert-standard-filename is defined in w32-fns.el, which is preloaded by loadup.el, so I don't understand this error message, and am unable to debug it because I cannot reproduce if if I run the same commands by hand. It could be related to the fact that we use an emacs executable that overflowed the pure storage (see the "49515 pure bytes used" message). Can we please fix this annoyance? (And no, I don't want to bootstrap, because this deletes all the old binaries I keep for testing. And I already tried "make generate-ldefs-boot", it didn't help.) Thanks. From unknown Mon Jun 23 00:36:20 2025 X-Loop: help-debbugs@gnu.org Subject: bug#25360: File mode specification errors during building Resent-From: "Phillip Lord" Original-Sender: "Debbugs-submit" Resent-CC: bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org Resent-Date: Sat, 04 Mar 2017 10:33:01 +0000 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-Sender: help-debbugs@gnu.org X-GNU-PR-Message: followup 25360 X-GNU-PR-Package: emacs X-GNU-PR-Keywords: To: "Eli Zaretskii" Cc: 25360@debbugs.gnu.org, npostavs@users.sourceforge.net, phillip.lord@russet.org.uk Received: via spool by 25360-submit@debbugs.gnu.org id=B25360.14886235506384 (code B ref 25360); Sat, 04 Mar 2017 10:33:01 +0000 Received: (at 25360) by debbugs.gnu.org; 4 Mar 2017 10:32:30 +0000 Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:39160 helo=debbugs.gnu.org) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1ck6zF-0001et-LT for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Sat, 04 Mar 2017 05:32:30 -0500 Received: from cloud103.planethippo.com ([78.129.138.110]:56824) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1ck6zE-0001eg-4A for 25360@debbugs.gnu.org; Sat, 04 Mar 2017 05:32:28 -0500 DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; q=dns/txt; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=russet.org.uk; s=default; h=Content-Transfer-Encoding:Content-Type: MIME-Version:Cc:To:From:Subject:Date:References:In-Reply-To:Message-ID:Sender :Reply-To:Content-ID:Content-Description:Resent-Date:Resent-From: Resent-Sender:Resent-To:Resent-Cc:Resent-Message-ID:List-Id:List-Help: List-Unsubscribe:List-Subscribe:List-Post:List-Owner:List-Archive; bh=E3B2BZERnRsZVEysn7yfpJf7wbiBtyIDEWuHAiKUaBw=; b=KHdvIs20AKieiI5oIWDY9xyKCy Kbd7KA5gNRgJyqODkAAlPX2jwAJIk948w7MtfLwpR0rfYyW0fV0Oi1cDejXvYxyQkV0bIG13HbzOd 3g8s95OCTHtOyVM1Btu9eFAAEnn/y8XWvWz85T8oTy92BlJStJj8kcAKJ/zCGF9vJTVJNkwfxuM60 goX/qFBi0nrV2x5dFHNSAxIZuJkzEBlk0706m8RN4FwFQbzFAX081E3v5IdcCqz97Mz2NzBbD6RcQ 41dGPQ+977RaBewWsdw6cq2xYWq3kKhAIJgWKrrdlnSn4xzQ0pO+/2c86CvxWlyaGTRuHpCv73X/s lA4kPNyg==; Received: from [127.0.0.1] (port=44188 helo=cloud103.planethippo.com) by cloud103.planethippo.com with esmtpa (Exim 4.88) (envelope-from ) id 1ck6z7-0005h6-1I; Sat, 04 Mar 2017 10:32:21 +0000 Received: from 92.238.179.168 ([92.238.179.168]) (SquirrelMail authenticated user phillip.lord@russet.org.uk) by cloud103.planethippo.com with HTTP; Sat, 4 Mar 2017 10:32:21 -0000 Message-ID: <99bc74ba0694143cac8ff0e33f076a2a.squirrel@cloud103.planethippo.com> In-Reply-To: <83d1dxl5qj.fsf@gnu.org> References: <87mvest1vz.fsf@russet.org.uk> <87h94zyj5s.fsf@users.sourceforge.net> <1760ldfurw.fsf@fencepost.gnu.org> <87k29t4a3d.fsf@russet.org.uk> <8737ghxjce.fsf@users.sourceforge.net> <8737gf8h0g.fsf@russet.org.uk> <83k29r6nnw.fsf@gnu.org> <87lgu4qfst.fsf@russet.org.uk> <874m0q7xo6.fsf@russet.org.uk> <83a8ah4wh8.fsf@gnu.org> <87fuk839l7.fsf@russet.org.uk> <83tw8o3169.fsf@gnu.org> <87o9yfzk3z.fsf@russet.org.uk> <83h94772di.fsf@gnu.org> <878tp8sx4l.fsf@russet.org.uk> <87k28loo4a.fsf@russet.org.uk> <8737ex0wdh.fsf@russet.org.uk> <83tw7bn1rf.fsf@gnu.org> <83d1dxl5qj.fsf@gnu.org> Date: Sat, 4 Mar 2017 10:32:21 -0000 From: "Phillip Lord" User-Agent: SquirrelMail/1.5.2 [SVN] MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain;charset=utf-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-AntiAbuse: This header was added to track abuse, please include it with any abuse report X-AntiAbuse: Primary Hostname - cloud103.planethippo.com X-AntiAbuse: Original Domain - debbugs.gnu.org X-AntiAbuse: Originator/Caller UID/GID - [47 12] / [47 12] X-AntiAbuse: Sender Address Domain - russet.org.uk X-Get-Message-Sender-Via: cloud103.planethippo.com: authenticated_id: phillip.lord@russet.org.uk X-Authenticated-Sender: cloud103.planethippo.com: phillip.lord@russet.org.uk X-Source: X-Source-Args: X-Source-Dir: X-Spam-Score: 0.0 (/) X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18 Precedence: list List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Sender: "Debbugs-submit" X-Spam-Score: 0.0 (/) >> > > I still see these errors while building master. Here's the latest > incarnation: > > > Finding pointers to doc strings... > Finding pointers to doc strings...done > Dumping under the name emacs > Dump memory usage: Heap: 9498624 Large blocks(0/1): 0/786448 > Dumping from d:/gnu/git/emacs/trunk/src/temacs.exe > to d:/gnu/git/emacs/trunk/src/emacs.exe 49515 pure bytes used > mv -f emacs.exe bootstrap-emacs.exe make -C ../lisp compile-first > EMACS="../src/bootstrap-emacs.exe" > make[2]: Entering directory `/d/gnu/git/emacs/trunk/lisp' > GEN mh-e/mh-loaddefs.el > Symbol's function definition is void: w32-convert-standard-filename > Directories for loaddefs: . ./calc ./calendar ./cedet ./cedet/ede > ./cedet/semantic ./cedet/semantic/analyze ./cedet/semantic/bovine > ./cedet/semantic/decorate ./cedet/semantic/symref ./cedet/semantic/wisent > ./cedet/srecode ./emacs-lisp ./emulation ./erc ./eshell ./gnus ./image > ./international ./language ./leim ./leim/ja-dic ./leim/quail ./mail > ./mh-e ./net ./nxml ./org ./play ./progmodes ./textmodes ./url ./vc > GEN loaddefs.el > Symbol's function definition is void: w32-convert-standard-filename > make[2]: Leaving directory `/d/gnu/git/emacs/trunk/lisp' > > > The build succeeds nonetheless. Moreover, if I repeat the offending > command ("make autoloads") manually, there are no error messages. > w32-convert-standard-filename is defined in w32-fns.el, which is preloaded > by loadup.el, so I don't understand this error message, and am unable to > debug it because I cannot reproduce if if I run the same commands by hand. > It could be related to the fact that we use an > emacs executable that overflowed the pure storage (see the "49515 pure > bytes used" message). > > Can we please fix this annoyance? (And no, I don't want to bootstrap, > because this deletes all the old binaries I keep for testing. And I > already tried "make generate-ldefs-boot", it didn't help.) Yes, I will revert to the old system. Nice idea, but it isn't working. I'll try and find time as quickly as possible. Phil From unknown Mon Jun 23 00:36:20 2025 X-Loop: help-debbugs@gnu.org Subject: bug#25360: File mode specification errors during building Resent-From: Eli Zaretskii Original-Sender: "Debbugs-submit" Resent-CC: bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org Resent-Date: Sat, 04 Mar 2017 11:12:02 +0000 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-Sender: help-debbugs@gnu.org X-GNU-PR-Message: followup 25360 X-GNU-PR-Package: emacs X-GNU-PR-Keywords: To: "Phillip Lord" Cc: 25360@debbugs.gnu.org, npostavs@users.sourceforge.net Reply-To: Eli Zaretskii Received: via spool by 25360-submit@debbugs.gnu.org id=B25360.14886259019817 (code B ref 25360); Sat, 04 Mar 2017 11:12:02 +0000 Received: (at 25360) by debbugs.gnu.org; 4 Mar 2017 11:11:41 +0000 Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:39180 helo=debbugs.gnu.org) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1ck7bB-0002YH-JN for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Sat, 04 Mar 2017 06:11:41 -0500 Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([208.118.235.92]:50663) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1ck7b9-0002Y3-N8 for 25360@debbugs.gnu.org; Sat, 04 Mar 2017 06:11:40 -0500 Received: from Debian-exim by eggs.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1ck7b1-0005SR-9n for 25360@debbugs.gnu.org; Sat, 04 Mar 2017 06:11:34 -0500 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.3.2 (2011-06-06) on eggs.gnu.org X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-0.0 required=5.0 tests=BAYES_40,RP_MATCHES_RCVD autolearn=disabled version=3.3.2 Received: from fencepost.gnu.org ([2001:4830:134:3::e]:45373) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1ck7b1-0005SF-5o; Sat, 04 Mar 2017 06:11:31 -0500 Received: from 84.94.185.246.cable.012.net.il ([84.94.185.246]:3813 helo=home-c4e4a596f7) by fencepost.gnu.org with esmtpsa (TLS1.2:RSA_AES_256_CBC_SHA1:256) (Exim 4.82) (envelope-from ) id 1ck7b0-0003aM-B2; Sat, 04 Mar 2017 06:11:30 -0500 Date: Sat, 04 Mar 2017 13:11:16 +0200 Message-Id: <8360jpl2jv.fsf@gnu.org> From: Eli Zaretskii In-reply-to: <99bc74ba0694143cac8ff0e33f076a2a.squirrel@cloud103.planethippo.com> (phillip.lord@russet.org.uk) References: <87mvest1vz.fsf@russet.org.uk> <87h94zyj5s.fsf@users.sourceforge.net> <1760ldfurw.fsf@fencepost.gnu.org> <87k29t4a3d.fsf@russet.org.uk> <8737ghxjce.fsf@users.sourceforge.net> <8737gf8h0g.fsf@russet.org.uk> <83k29r6nnw.fsf@gnu.org> <87lgu4qfst.fsf@russet.org.uk> <874m0q7xo6.fsf@russet.org.uk> <83a8ah4wh8.fsf@gnu.org> <87fuk839l7.fsf@russet.org.uk> <83tw8o3169.fsf@gnu.org> <87o9yfzk3z.fsf@russet.org.uk> <83h94772di.fsf@gnu.org> <878tp8sx4l.fsf@russet.org.uk> <87k28loo4a.fsf@russet.org.uk> <8737ex0wdh.fsf@russet.org.uk> <83tw7bn1rf.fsf@gnu.org> <83d1dxl5qj.fsf@gnu.org> <99bc74ba0694143cac8ff0e33f076a2a.squirrel@cloud103.planethippo.com> X-detected-operating-system: by eggs.gnu.org: GNU/Linux 2.2.x-3.x [generic] X-Received-From: 2001:4830:134:3::e X-Spam-Score: -5.0 (-----) X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18 Precedence: list List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Sender: "Debbugs-submit" X-Spam-Score: -5.0 (-----) > Date: Sat, 4 Mar 2017 10:32:21 -0000 > From: "Phillip Lord" > Cc: phillip.lord@russet.org.uk, > npostavs@users.sourceforge.net, > 25360@debbugs.gnu.org > > > Symbol's function definition is void: w32-convert-standard-filename > > make[2]: Leaving directory `/d/gnu/git/emacs/trunk/lisp' > > > > > > The build succeeds nonetheless. Moreover, if I repeat the offending > > command ("make autoloads") manually, there are no error messages. > > w32-convert-standard-filename is defined in w32-fns.el, which is preloaded > > by loadup.el, so I don't understand this error message, and am unable to > > debug it because I cannot reproduce if if I run the same commands by hand. > > It could be related to the fact that we use an > > emacs executable that overflowed the pure storage (see the "49515 pure > > bytes used" message). > > > > Can we please fix this annoyance? (And no, I don't want to bootstrap, > > because this deletes all the old binaries I keep for testing. And I > > already tried "make generate-ldefs-boot", it didn't help.) > > > Yes, I will revert to the old system. Nice idea, but it isn't working. > I'll try and find time as quickly as possible. Thanks. I'm making a few small changes in the current system, so please wait for a while until I'm done. If that doesn't solve the above issue, at the very least it will fix a few minor gotcha's, in case someone else will want to pick up this idea in the future. From unknown Mon Jun 23 00:36:20 2025 X-Loop: help-debbugs@gnu.org Subject: bug#25360: File mode specification errors during building Resent-From: Eli Zaretskii Original-Sender: "Debbugs-submit" Resent-CC: bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org Resent-Date: Sat, 04 Mar 2017 11:30:02 +0000 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-Sender: help-debbugs@gnu.org X-GNU-PR-Message: followup 25360 X-GNU-PR-Package: emacs X-GNU-PR-Keywords: To: phillip.lord@russet.org.uk Cc: 25360@debbugs.gnu.org, npostavs@users.sourceforge.net Reply-To: Eli Zaretskii Received: via spool by 25360-submit@debbugs.gnu.org id=B25360.148862695811707 (code B ref 25360); Sat, 04 Mar 2017 11:30:02 +0000 Received: (at 25360) by debbugs.gnu.org; 4 Mar 2017 11:29:18 +0000 Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:39195 helo=debbugs.gnu.org) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1ck7sD-00032l-NK for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Sat, 04 Mar 2017 06:29:17 -0500 Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([208.118.235.92]:54048) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1ck7sC-00032Z-7M for 25360@debbugs.gnu.org; Sat, 04 Mar 2017 06:29:16 -0500 Received: from Debian-exim by eggs.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1ck7s3-0002E5-0Y for 25360@debbugs.gnu.org; Sat, 04 Mar 2017 06:29:10 -0500 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.3.2 (2011-06-06) on eggs.gnu.org X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-0.5 required=5.0 tests=BAYES_05,RP_MATCHES_RCVD autolearn=disabled version=3.3.2 Received: from fencepost.gnu.org ([2001:4830:134:3::e]:45536) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1ck7s2-0002Dx-TO; Sat, 04 Mar 2017 06:29:06 -0500 Received: from 84.94.185.246.cable.012.net.il ([84.94.185.246]:3831 helo=home-c4e4a596f7) by fencepost.gnu.org with esmtpsa (TLS1.2:RSA_AES_256_CBC_SHA1:256) (Exim 4.82) (envelope-from ) id 1ck7s2-0008Ve-5y; Sat, 04 Mar 2017 06:29:06 -0500 Date: Sat, 04 Mar 2017 13:28:52 +0200 Message-Id: <8337etl1qj.fsf@gnu.org> From: Eli Zaretskii In-reply-to: <8360jpl2jv.fsf@gnu.org> (message from Eli Zaretskii on Sat, 04 Mar 2017 13:11:16 +0200) References: <87mvest1vz.fsf@russet.org.uk> <87h94zyj5s.fsf@users.sourceforge.net> <1760ldfurw.fsf@fencepost.gnu.org> <87k29t4a3d.fsf@russet.org.uk> <8737ghxjce.fsf@users.sourceforge.net> <8737gf8h0g.fsf@russet.org.uk> <83k29r6nnw.fsf@gnu.org> <87lgu4qfst.fsf@russet.org.uk> <874m0q7xo6.fsf@russet.org.uk> <83a8ah4wh8.fsf@gnu.org> <87fuk839l7.fsf@russet.org.uk> <83tw8o3169.fsf@gnu.org> <87o9yfzk3z.fsf@russet.org.uk> <83h94772di.fsf@gnu.org> <878tp8sx4l.fsf@russet.org.uk> <87k28loo4a.fsf@russet.org.uk> <8737ex0wdh.fsf@russet.org.uk> <83tw7bn1rf.fsf@gnu.org> <83d1dxl5qj.fsf@gnu.org> <99bc74ba0694143cac8ff0e33f076a2a.squirrel@cloud103.planethippo.com> <8360jpl2jv.fsf@gnu.org> X-detected-operating-system: by eggs.gnu.org: GNU/Linux 2.2.x-3.x [generic] X-Received-From: 2001:4830:134:3::e X-Spam-Score: -5.0 (-----) X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18 Precedence: list List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Sender: "Debbugs-submit" X-Spam-Score: -5.0 (-----) > Date: Sat, 04 Mar 2017 13:11:16 +0200 > From: Eli Zaretskii > Cc: npostavs@users.sourceforge.net, 25360@debbugs.gnu.org > > > Yes, I will revert to the old system. Nice idea, but it isn't working. > > I'll try and find time as quickly as possible. > > Thanks. I'm making a few small changes in the current system, so > please wait for a while until I'm done. If that doesn't solve the > above issue, at the very least it will fix a few minor gotcha's, in > case someone else will want to pick up this idea in the future. I've committed those changes. They didn't solve the problem. I'm quite sure the problem happens because we use an emacs executable which overflowed the pure space when it was dumped, FWIW. Thanks. From unknown Mon Jun 23 00:36:20 2025 X-Loop: help-debbugs@gnu.org Subject: bug#25360: File mode specification errors during building In-Reply-To: Resent-From: Andy Moreton Original-Sender: "Debbugs-submit" Resent-CC: bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org Resent-Date: Sun, 05 Mar 2017 18:28:01 +0000 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-Sender: help-debbugs@gnu.org X-GNU-PR-Message: followup 25360 X-GNU-PR-Package: emacs X-GNU-PR-Keywords: To: 25360@debbugs.gnu.org X-Debbugs-Original-To: bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org Received: via spool by submit@debbugs.gnu.org id=B.148873843914374 (code B ref -1); Sun, 05 Mar 2017 18:28:01 +0000 Received: (at submit) by debbugs.gnu.org; 5 Mar 2017 18:27:19 +0000 Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:41271 helo=debbugs.gnu.org) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1ckasI-0003jl-M3 for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Sun, 05 Mar 2017 13:27:18 -0500 Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([208.118.235.92]:58723) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1ckasG-0003jY-JA for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Sun, 05 Mar 2017 13:27:16 -0500 Received: from Debian-exim by eggs.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1ckasA-0002Lq-J6 for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Sun, 05 Mar 2017 13:27:11 -0500 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.3.2 (2011-06-06) on eggs.gnu.org X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=0.8 required=5.0 tests=BAYES_50,FREEMAIL_FROM autolearn=disabled version=3.3.2 Received: from lists.gnu.org ([2001:4830:134:3::11]:56073) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS1.0:RSA_AES_256_CBC_SHA1:32) (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1ckasA-0002Lm-Gf for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Sun, 05 Mar 2017 13:27:10 -0500 Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([2001:4830:134:3::10]:49694) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1ckas9-0007kd-F4 for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Sun, 05 Mar 2017 13:27:10 -0500 Received: from Debian-exim by eggs.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1ckas4-0002KX-IP for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Sun, 05 Mar 2017 13:27:09 -0500 Received: from [195.159.176.226] (port=49046 helo=blaine.gmane.org) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS1.0:RSA_AES_128_CBC_SHA1:16) (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1ckas4-0002JC-Az for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Sun, 05 Mar 2017 13:27:04 -0500 Received: from list by blaine.gmane.org with local (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1ckarr-0008RR-QE for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Sun, 05 Mar 2017 19:26:51 +0100 X-Injected-Via-Gmane: http://gmane.org/ From: Andy Moreton Date: Sun, 05 Mar 2017 18:26:44 +0000 Lines: 51 Message-ID: <86fuir60m3.fsf@gmail.com> References: <8737ghxjce.fsf@users.sourceforge.net> <8737gf8h0g.fsf@russet.org.uk> <83k29r6nnw.fsf@gnu.org> <87lgu4qfst.fsf@russet.org.uk> <874m0q7xo6.fsf@russet.org.uk> <83a8ah4wh8.fsf@gnu.org> <87fuk839l7.fsf@russet.org.uk> <83tw8o3169.fsf@gnu.org> <87o9yfzk3z.fsf@russet.org.uk> <83h94772di.fsf@gnu.org> <878tp8sx4l.fsf@russet.org.uk> <87k28loo4a.fsf@russet.org.uk> <8737ex0wdh.fsf@russet.org.uk> <83tw7bn1rf.fsf@gnu.org> <83d1dxl5qj.fsf@gnu.org> <99bc74ba0694143cac8ff0e33f076a2a.squirrel@cloud103.planethippo.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain X-Complaints-To: usenet@blaine.gmane.org User-Agent: Gnus/5.13 (Gnus v5.13) Emacs/25.2 (windows-nt) Cancel-Lock: sha1:Wj3h4X8Fcb70b4GOsTrg4HRDPr8= X-detected-operating-system: by eggs.gnu.org: GNU/Linux 2.2.x-3.x [generic] [fuzzy] X-detected-operating-system: by eggs.gnu.org: GNU/Linux 2.6.x X-Received-From: 2001:4830:134:3::11 X-Spam-Score: -4.8 (----) X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18 Precedence: list List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Sender: "Debbugs-submit" X-Spam-Score: -4.8 (----) On Sat 04 Mar 2017, Phillip Lord wrote: >>> >> >> I still see these errors while building master. Here's the latest >> incarnation: >> >> >> Finding pointers to doc strings... >> Finding pointers to doc strings...done >> Dumping under the name emacs >> Dump memory usage: Heap: 9498624 Large blocks(0/1): 0/786448 >> Dumping from d:/gnu/git/emacs/trunk/src/temacs.exe >> to d:/gnu/git/emacs/trunk/src/emacs.exe 49515 pure bytes used >> mv -f emacs.exe bootstrap-emacs.exe make -C ../lisp compile-first >> EMACS="../src/bootstrap-emacs.exe" >> make[2]: Entering directory `/d/gnu/git/emacs/trunk/lisp' >> GEN mh-e/mh-loaddefs.el >> Symbol's function definition is void: w32-convert-standard-filename >> Directories for loaddefs: . ./calc ./calendar ./cedet ./cedet/ede >> ./cedet/semantic ./cedet/semantic/analyze ./cedet/semantic/bovine >> ./cedet/semantic/decorate ./cedet/semantic/symref ./cedet/semantic/wisent >> ./cedet/srecode ./emacs-lisp ./emulation ./erc ./eshell ./gnus ./image >> ./international ./language ./leim ./leim/ja-dic ./leim/quail ./mail >> ./mh-e ./net ./nxml ./org ./play ./progmodes ./textmodes ./url ./vc >> GEN loaddefs.el >> Symbol's function definition is void: w32-convert-standard-filename >> make[2]: Leaving directory `/d/gnu/git/emacs/trunk/lisp' >> >> >> The build succeeds nonetheless. Moreover, if I repeat the offending >> command ("make autoloads") manually, there are no error messages. >> w32-convert-standard-filename is defined in w32-fns.el, which is preloaded >> by loadup.el, so I don't understand this error message, and am unable to >> debug it because I cannot reproduce if if I run the same commands by hand. >> It could be related to the fact that we use an >> emacs executable that overflowed the pure storage (see the "49515 pure >> bytes used" message). >> >> Can we please fix this annoyance? (And no, I don't want to bootstrap, >> because this deletes all the old binaries I keep for testing. And I >> already tried "make generate-ldefs-boot", it didn't help.) > > > Yes, I will revert to the old system. Nice idea, but it isn't working. > I'll try and find time as quickly as possible. Please do. I see the same messages about w32-convert-standard-filename, but in my case the build always fails. AndyM From unknown Mon Jun 23 00:36:20 2025 X-Loop: help-debbugs@gnu.org Subject: bug#25360: File mode specification errors during building Resent-From: "Phillip Lord" Original-Sender: "Debbugs-submit" Resent-CC: bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org Resent-Date: Sun, 05 Mar 2017 18:59:02 +0000 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-Sender: help-debbugs@gnu.org X-GNU-PR-Message: followup 25360 X-GNU-PR-Package: emacs X-GNU-PR-Keywords: To: "Andy Moreton" Cc: 25360@debbugs.gnu.org Received: via spool by 25360-submit@debbugs.gnu.org id=B25360.148874034117410 (code B ref 25360); Sun, 05 Mar 2017 18:59:02 +0000 Received: (at 25360) by debbugs.gnu.org; 5 Mar 2017 18:59:01 +0000 Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:41304 helo=debbugs.gnu.org) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1ckbMy-0004Wk-O2 for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Sun, 05 Mar 2017 13:59:00 -0500 Received: from cloud103.planethippo.com ([78.129.138.110]:52104) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1ckbMw-0004WW-OC for 25360@debbugs.gnu.org; Sun, 05 Mar 2017 13:58:59 -0500 DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; q=dns/txt; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=russet.org.uk; s=default; h=Content-Transfer-Encoding:Content-Type: MIME-Version:Cc:To:From:Subject:Date:References:In-Reply-To:Message-ID:Sender :Reply-To:Content-ID:Content-Description:Resent-Date:Resent-From: Resent-Sender:Resent-To:Resent-Cc:Resent-Message-ID:List-Id:List-Help: List-Unsubscribe:List-Subscribe:List-Post:List-Owner:List-Archive; bh=YwVdf//TIT+PC7sVcDzXMYW1juWgr0xpxKV9P95UzZc=; b=iP9iPQJu1I5lLLD5eF3mRcD5qx Gp3QyFYczNTS2ic66HUrn+dBJwBs4gkKVub/q6+wn66JLo26PsoMFQUBaUeZ/Ze98WPnkeCdxUn4Y KfiLeQr+wf8QuBfsLYrpZrjXq/7ZRVRKqbKT8ZrsjFYnXFp5cipaFtx3SotQsWccpQG+LxvGh/At8 61ZKVB8XxapKG//SsZlvoYWZmec5Wgn7sR9RGwtyCdq+pcoCbPyWUKHBtjfmhETBa2luCi/4Iie4B N0GupRFLVe2eDLRyiBwu3AjpclZcw7MNPLhybRoB5B6OFrbhHMLdgVwlsWJrsIuDosRJCtzX8ot7f iL8h0xjQ==; Received: from [127.0.0.1] (port=39474 helo=cloud103.planethippo.com) by cloud103.planethippo.com with esmtpa (Exim 4.88) (envelope-from ) id 1ckbMq-0007dn-Dp; Sun, 05 Mar 2017 18:58:52 +0000 Received: from 92.238.179.168 ([92.238.179.168]) (SquirrelMail authenticated user phillip.lord@russet.org.uk) by cloud103.planethippo.com with HTTP; Sun, 5 Mar 2017 18:58:52 -0000 Message-ID: <1c546ac847c33d8cb0a789d43eca4ec2.squirrel@cloud103.planethippo.com> In-Reply-To: <86fuir60m3.fsf@gmail.com> References: <8737ghxjce.fsf@users.sourceforge.net> <8737gf8h0g.fsf@russet.org.uk> <83k29r6nnw.fsf@gnu.org> <87lgu4qfst.fsf@russet.org.uk> <874m0q7xo6.fsf@russet.org.uk> <83a8ah4wh8.fsf@gnu.org> <87fuk839l7.fsf@russet.org.uk> <83tw8o3169.fsf@gnu.org> <87o9yfzk3z.fsf@russet.org.uk> <83h94772di.fsf@gnu.org> <878tp8sx4l.fsf@russet.org.uk> <87k28loo4a.fsf@russet.org.uk> <8737ex0wdh.fsf@russet.org.uk> <83tw7bn1rf.fsf@gnu.org> <83d1dxl5qj.fsf@gnu.org> <99bc74ba0694143cac8ff0e33f076a2a.squirrel@cloud103.planethippo.com> <86fuir60m3.fsf@gmail.com> Date: Sun, 5 Mar 2017 18:58:52 -0000 From: "Phillip Lord" User-Agent: SquirrelMail/1.5.2 [SVN] MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain;charset=utf-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-AntiAbuse: This header was added to track abuse, please include it with any abuse report X-AntiAbuse: Primary Hostname - cloud103.planethippo.com X-AntiAbuse: Original Domain - debbugs.gnu.org X-AntiAbuse: Originator/Caller UID/GID - [47 12] / [47 12] X-AntiAbuse: Sender Address Domain - russet.org.uk X-Get-Message-Sender-Via: cloud103.planethippo.com: authenticated_id: phillip.lord@russet.org.uk X-Authenticated-Sender: cloud103.planethippo.com: phillip.lord@russet.org.uk X-Source: X-Source-Args: X-Source-Dir: X-Spam-Score: 0.0 (/) X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18 Precedence: list List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Sender: "Debbugs-submit" X-Spam-Score: 0.0 (/) On Sun, March 5, 2017 6:26 pm, Andy Moreton wrote: > On Sat 04 Mar 2017, Phillip Lord wrote: > > >>>> >>> >>> I still see these errors while building master. Here's the latest >>> incarnation: >>> >>> >>> >>> Finding pointers to doc strings... >>> Finding pointers to doc strings...done >>> Dumping under the name emacs >>> Dump memory usage: Heap: 9498624 Large blocks(0/1): 0/786448 >>> Dumping from d:/gnu/git/emacs/trunk/src/temacs.exe >>> to d:/gnu/git/emacs/trunk/src/emacs.exe 49515 pure bytes used mv -f >>> emacs.exe bootstrap-emacs.exe make -C ../lisp compile-first >>> EMACS="../src/bootstrap-emacs.exe" >>> make[2]: Entering directory `/d/gnu/git/emacs/trunk/lisp' >>> GEN mh-e/mh-loaddefs.el >>> Symbol's function definition is void: w32-convert-standard-filename >>> Directories for loaddefs: . ./calc ./calendar ./cedet ./cedet/ede >>> ./cedet/semantic ./cedet/semantic/analyze ./cedet/semantic/bovine >>> ./cedet/semantic/decorate ./cedet/semantic/symref >>> ./cedet/semantic/wisent >>> ./cedet/srecode ./emacs-lisp ./emulation ./erc ./eshell ./gnus ./image >>> ./international ./language ./leim ./leim/ja-dic ./leim/quail ./mail >>> ./mh-e ./net ./nxml ./org ./play ./progmodes ./textmodes ./url ./vc >>> GEN loaddefs.el >>> Symbol's function definition is void: w32-convert-standard-filename >>> make[2]: Leaving directory `/d/gnu/git/emacs/trunk/lisp' >>> >>> >>> >>> The build succeeds nonetheless. Moreover, if I repeat the offending >>> command ("make autoloads") manually, there are no error messages. >>> w32-convert-standard-filename is defined in w32-fns.el, which is >>> preloaded by loadup.el, so I don't understand this error message, and >>> am unable to debug it because I cannot reproduce if if I run the same >>> commands by hand. It could be related to the fact that we use an >>> emacs executable that overflowed the pure storage (see the "49515 pure >>> bytes used" message). >>> >>> Can we please fix this annoyance? (And no, I don't want to >>> bootstrap, because this deletes all the old binaries I keep for >>> testing. And I already tried "make generate-ldefs-boot", it didn't >>> help.) >> >> >> Yes, I will revert to the old system. Nice idea, but it isn't working. >> I'll try and find time as quickly as possible. >> > > Please do. I see the same messages about w32-convert-standard-filename, > but in my case the build always fails. > In the mean time, try stuffing this: (autoload 'w32-convert-standard-filename "w32-fns.el" nil nil nil) into ldefs-boot-auto.el. generate-ldefs-boot adds this for me anyway. If it works for you, I can add this to master quicker than I can revert. Phil From unknown Mon Jun 23 00:36:20 2025 X-Loop: help-debbugs@gnu.org Subject: bug#25360: File mode specification errors during building Resent-From: Eli Zaretskii Original-Sender: "Debbugs-submit" Resent-CC: bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org Resent-Date: Sun, 05 Mar 2017 20:10:01 +0000 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-Sender: help-debbugs@gnu.org X-GNU-PR-Message: followup 25360 X-GNU-PR-Package: emacs X-GNU-PR-Keywords: To: "Phillip Lord" Cc: andrewjmoreton@gmail.com, 25360@debbugs.gnu.org Reply-To: Eli Zaretskii Received: via spool by 25360-submit@debbugs.gnu.org id=B25360.148874455824130 (code B ref 25360); Sun, 05 Mar 2017 20:10:01 +0000 Received: (at 25360) by debbugs.gnu.org; 5 Mar 2017 20:09:18 +0000 Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:41354 helo=debbugs.gnu.org) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1ckcT0-0006H7-7V for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Sun, 05 Mar 2017 15:09:18 -0500 Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([208.118.235.92]:44068) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1ckcSy-0006Gr-Ry for 25360@debbugs.gnu.org; Sun, 05 Mar 2017 15:09:17 -0500 Received: from Debian-exim by eggs.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1ckcSq-000686-F7 for 25360@debbugs.gnu.org; Sun, 05 Mar 2017 15:09:11 -0500 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.3.2 (2011-06-06) on eggs.gnu.org X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-0.5 required=5.0 tests=BAYES_05,RP_MATCHES_RCVD autolearn=disabled version=3.3.2 Received: from fencepost.gnu.org ([2001:4830:134:3::e]:34812) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1ckcSq-000682-BX; Sun, 05 Mar 2017 15:09:08 -0500 Received: from 84.94.185.246.cable.012.net.il ([84.94.185.246]:1647 helo=home-c4e4a596f7) by fencepost.gnu.org with esmtpsa (TLS1.2:RSA_AES_256_CBC_SHA1:256) (Exim 4.82) (envelope-from ) id 1ckcSo-0000Mi-Ba; Sun, 05 Mar 2017 15:09:08 -0500 Date: Sun, 05 Mar 2017 22:08:49 +0200 Message-Id: <83zigziizy.fsf@gnu.org> From: Eli Zaretskii In-reply-to: <1c546ac847c33d8cb0a789d43eca4ec2.squirrel@cloud103.planethippo.com> (phillip.lord@russet.org.uk) References: <8737ghxjce.fsf@users.sourceforge.net> <8737gf8h0g.fsf@russet.org.uk> <83k29r6nnw.fsf@gnu.org> <87lgu4qfst.fsf@russet.org.uk> <874m0q7xo6.fsf@russet.org.uk> <83a8ah4wh8.fsf@gnu.org> <87fuk839l7.fsf@russet.org.uk> <83tw8o3169.fsf@gnu.org> <87o9yfzk3z.fsf@russet.org.uk> <83h94772di.fsf@gnu.org> <878tp8sx4l.fsf@russet.org.uk> <87k28loo4a.fsf@russet.org.uk> <8737ex0wdh.fsf@russet.org.uk> <83tw7bn1rf.fsf@gnu.org> <83d1dxl5qj.fsf@gnu.org> <99bc74ba0694143cac8ff0e33f076a2a.squirrel@cloud103.planethippo.com> <86fuir60m3.fsf@gmail.com> <1c546ac847c33d8cb0a789d43eca4ec2.squirrel@cloud103.planethippo.com> X-detected-operating-system: by eggs.gnu.org: GNU/Linux 2.2.x-3.x [generic] X-Received-From: 2001:4830:134:3::e X-Spam-Score: -5.0 (-----) X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18 Precedence: list List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Sender: "Debbugs-submit" X-Spam-Score: -5.0 (-----) > Date: Sun, 5 Mar 2017 18:58:52 -0000 > From: "Phillip Lord" > Cc: 25360@debbugs.gnu.org > > In the mean time, try stuffing this: > > (autoload 'w32-convert-standard-filename "w32-fns.el" nil nil nil) > > into ldefs-boot-auto.el. generate-ldefs-boot adds this for me anyway. If > it works for you, I can add this to master quicker than I can revert. Why would that change anything? ldefs-boot-manual.el already includes that line, so ldefs-boot-auto.el doesn't have to, right? From unknown Mon Jun 23 00:36:20 2025 X-Loop: help-debbugs@gnu.org Subject: bug#25360: File mode specification errors during building In-Reply-To: Resent-From: Andy Moreton Original-Sender: "Debbugs-submit" Resent-CC: bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org Resent-Date: Mon, 06 Mar 2017 12:09:02 +0000 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-Sender: help-debbugs@gnu.org X-GNU-PR-Message: followup 25360 X-GNU-PR-Package: emacs X-GNU-PR-Keywords: To: 25360@debbugs.gnu.org X-Debbugs-Original-To: bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org Received: via spool by submit@debbugs.gnu.org id=B.148880208930292 (code B ref -1); Mon, 06 Mar 2017 12:09:02 +0000 Received: (at submit) by debbugs.gnu.org; 6 Mar 2017 12:08:09 +0000 Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:41795 helo=debbugs.gnu.org) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1ckrQv-0007sW-An for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Mon, 06 Mar 2017 07:08:09 -0500 Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([208.118.235.92]:45390) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1ckrQu-0007sK-Cm for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Mon, 06 Mar 2017 07:08:08 -0500 Received: from Debian-exim by eggs.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1ckrQn-0002tN-Vi for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Mon, 06 Mar 2017 07:08:02 -0500 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.3.2 (2011-06-06) on eggs.gnu.org X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=0.0 required=5.0 tests=BAYES_40,FREEMAIL_FROM autolearn=disabled version=3.3.2 Received: from lists.gnu.org ([2001:4830:134:3::11]:51311) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS1.0:RSA_AES_256_CBC_SHA1:32) (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1ckrQn-0002tJ-Ti for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Mon, 06 Mar 2017 07:08:01 -0500 Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([2001:4830:134:3::10]:36358) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1ckrQm-00043i-Sy for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Mon, 06 Mar 2017 07:08:01 -0500 Received: from Debian-exim by eggs.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1ckrQi-0002rR-Ub for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Mon, 06 Mar 2017 07:08:00 -0500 Received: from [195.159.176.226] (port=57986 helo=blaine.gmane.org) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS1.0:RSA_AES_128_CBC_SHA1:16) (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1ckrQi-0002r1-Nv for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Mon, 06 Mar 2017 07:07:56 -0500 Received: from list by blaine.gmane.org with local (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1ckrQU-0001ty-6p for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Mon, 06 Mar 2017 13:07:42 +0100 X-Injected-Via-Gmane: http://gmane.org/ From: Andy Moreton Date: Mon, 06 Mar 2017 12:07:41 +0000 Lines: 22 Message-ID: References: <87lgu4qfst.fsf@russet.org.uk> <874m0q7xo6.fsf@russet.org.uk> <83a8ah4wh8.fsf@gnu.org> <87fuk839l7.fsf@russet.org.uk> <83tw8o3169.fsf@gnu.org> <87o9yfzk3z.fsf@russet.org.uk> <83h94772di.fsf@gnu.org> <878tp8sx4l.fsf@russet.org.uk> <87k28loo4a.fsf@russet.org.uk> <8737ex0wdh.fsf@russet.org.uk> <83tw7bn1rf.fsf@gnu.org> <83d1dxl5qj.fsf@gnu.org> <99bc74ba0694143cac8ff0e33f076a2a.squirrel@cloud103.planethippo.com> <86fuir60m3.fsf@gmail.com> <1c546ac847c33d8cb0a789d43eca4ec2.squirrel@cloud103.planethippo.com> <83zigziizy.fsf@gnu.org> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain X-Complaints-To: usenet@blaine.gmane.org User-Agent: Gnus/5.13 (Gnus v5.13) Emacs/25.2 (windows-nt) Cancel-Lock: sha1:HHkqkugaGOlmpSK3FYpW8jRvLbs= X-detected-operating-system: by eggs.gnu.org: GNU/Linux 2.2.x-3.x [generic] [fuzzy] X-detected-operating-system: by eggs.gnu.org: GNU/Linux 2.6.x X-Received-From: 2001:4830:134:3::11 X-Spam-Score: -4.8 (----) X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18 Precedence: list List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Sender: "Debbugs-submit" X-Spam-Score: -4.8 (----) On Sun 05 Mar 2017, Eli Zaretskii wrote: >> Date: Sun, 5 Mar 2017 18:58:52 -0000 >> From: "Phillip Lord" >> Cc: 25360@debbugs.gnu.org >> >> In the mean time, try stuffing this: >> >> (autoload 'w32-convert-standard-filename "w32-fns.el" nil nil nil) >> >> into ldefs-boot-auto.el. generate-ldefs-boot adds this for me anyway. If >> it works for you, I can add this to master quicker than I can revert. > > Why would that change anything? ldefs-boot-manual.el already includes > that line, so ldefs-boot-auto.el doesn't have to, right? Adding this to does not remove the build failures, so Eli is correct. What is needed is to revert the changes that caused this regression in the build machinery. AndyM From unknown Mon Jun 23 00:36:20 2025 X-Loop: help-debbugs@gnu.org Subject: bug#25360: File mode specification errors during building Resent-From: phillip.lord@russet.org.uk (Phillip Lord) Original-Sender: "Debbugs-submit" Resent-CC: bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org Resent-Date: Mon, 06 Mar 2017 15:34:02 +0000 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-Sender: help-debbugs@gnu.org X-GNU-PR-Message: followup 25360 X-GNU-PR-Package: emacs X-GNU-PR-Keywords: To: Eli Zaretskii Cc: 25360@debbugs.gnu.org, npostavs@users.sourceforge.net Received: via spool by 25360-submit@debbugs.gnu.org id=B25360.148881438825345 (code B ref 25360); Mon, 06 Mar 2017 15:34:02 +0000 Received: (at 25360) by debbugs.gnu.org; 6 Mar 2017 15:33:08 +0000 Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:42940 helo=debbugs.gnu.org) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1ckudI-0006aj-LT for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Mon, 06 Mar 2017 10:33:08 -0500 Received: from cloud103.planethippo.com ([78.129.138.110]:48696) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1ckudH-0006aJ-Jy for 25360@debbugs.gnu.org; Mon, 06 Mar 2017 10:33:08 -0500 DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; q=dns/txt; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=russet.org.uk; s=default; h=Content-Type:MIME-Version:Message-ID: In-Reply-To:Date:References:Subject:Cc:To:From:Sender:Reply-To: Content-Transfer-Encoding:Content-ID:Content-Description:Resent-Date: Resent-From:Resent-Sender:Resent-To:Resent-Cc:Resent-Message-ID:List-Id: List-Help:List-Unsubscribe:List-Subscribe:List-Post:List-Owner:List-Archive; bh=IBZtcX7ajJgos5EfGV7JRzgJnJ3PkR/md4WAe9/HqR4=; b=Y/omHh9u6lityyskPX2jZk4PT sg//i0EVOCbY+9jTmbs7KifzoXqfrxRQlLo7d6YzR4E3NeOoEkQDtWQTSQRvJoGqvi8yIYqwyNXcs YDrTEGvf1QPeuhz61k1wmSEDJqqC+BQrgCq+Vh3TfTvnshSmQP5W6RWCux1U3u/tnuipl0j1Uj3+A yefL71eiz2tjg/2JBZOop+nP13lwgkWlj2UO5WyJw8QIZ8WyflfSxxooWu50itkyDgdX3jJImQke2 J8y59qQK/FXSkjK0Eo9dwNEVcKc0Eub0vF8+tV9e53V6u1grNsGWQUPKZtpDtqchuwSSyK+xRKpHF RNA4JvJJQ==; Received: from janus-nat-128-240-225-75.ncl.ac.uk ([128.240.225.75]:55072 helo=russet.org.uk) by cloud103.planethippo.com with esmtpsa (TLSv1.2:ECDHE-RSA-AES256-GCM-SHA384:256) (Exim 4.88) (envelope-from ) id 1ckudB-0000p1-Ix; Mon, 06 Mar 2017 15:33:01 +0000 From: phillip.lord@russet.org.uk (Phillip Lord) References: <83k29r6nnw.fsf@gnu.org> <87lgu4qfst.fsf@russet.org.uk> <874m0q7xo6.fsf@russet.org.uk> <83a8ah4wh8.fsf@gnu.org> <87fuk839l7.fsf@russet.org.uk> <83tw8o3169.fsf@gnu.org> <87o9yfzk3z.fsf@russet.org.uk> <83h94772di.fsf@gnu.org> <878tp8sx4l.fsf@russet.org.uk> <87k28loo4a.fsf@russet.org.uk> <8737ex0wdh.fsf@russet.org.uk> <83tw7bn1rf.fsf@gnu.org> <83d1dxl5qj.fsf@gnu.org> <99bc74ba0694143cac8ff0e33f076a2a.squirrel@cloud103.planethippo.com> <8360jpl2jv.fsf@gnu.org> <8337etl1qj.fsf@gnu.org> Date: Mon, 06 Mar 2017 15:33:01 +0000 In-Reply-To: <8337etl1qj.fsf@gnu.org> (Eli Zaretskii's message of "Sat, 04 Mar 2017 13:28:52 +0200") Message-ID: <87zigymnde.fsf@russet.org.uk> User-Agent: Gnus/5.13 (Gnus v5.13) Emacs/25.2 (gnu/linux) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain X-AntiAbuse: This header was added to track abuse, please include it with any abuse report X-AntiAbuse: Primary Hostname - cloud103.planethippo.com X-AntiAbuse: Original Domain - debbugs.gnu.org X-AntiAbuse: Originator/Caller UID/GID - [47 12] / [47 12] X-AntiAbuse: Sender Address Domain - russet.org.uk X-Get-Message-Sender-Via: cloud103.planethippo.com: authenticated_id: phillip.lord@russet.org.uk X-Authenticated-Sender: cloud103.planethippo.com: phillip.lord@russet.org.uk X-Source: X-Source-Args: X-Source-Dir: X-Spam-Score: 0.0 (/) X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18 Precedence: list List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Sender: "Debbugs-submit" X-Spam-Score: 0.0 (/) I've pushed the reversion to git. http://git.savannah.gnu.org/cgit/emacs.git/log/?h=fix/great-revert-bill Be happy if someone could try it and see if removes the problem. Phil From unknown Mon Jun 23 00:36:20 2025 X-Loop: help-debbugs@gnu.org Subject: bug#25360: File mode specification errors during building Resent-From: phillip.lord@russet.org.uk (Phillip Lord) Original-Sender: "Debbugs-submit" Resent-CC: bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org Resent-Date: Mon, 06 Mar 2017 16:31:02 +0000 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-Sender: help-debbugs@gnu.org X-GNU-PR-Message: followup 25360 X-GNU-PR-Package: emacs X-GNU-PR-Keywords: To: Eli Zaretskii Cc: andrewjmoreton@gmail.com, 25360@debbugs.gnu.org Received: via spool by 25360-submit@debbugs.gnu.org id=B25360.148881782730815 (code B ref 25360); Mon, 06 Mar 2017 16:31:02 +0000 Received: (at 25360) by debbugs.gnu.org; 6 Mar 2017 16:30:27 +0000 Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:42998 helo=debbugs.gnu.org) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1ckvWl-00080v-5N for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Mon, 06 Mar 2017 11:30:27 -0500 Received: from cloud103.planethippo.com ([78.129.138.110]:55104) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1ckvWj-00080h-JZ for 25360@debbugs.gnu.org; Mon, 06 Mar 2017 11:30:26 -0500 DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; q=dns/txt; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=russet.org.uk; s=default; h=Content-Type:MIME-Version:Message-ID: In-Reply-To:Date:References:Subject:Cc:To:From:Sender:Reply-To: Content-Transfer-Encoding:Content-ID:Content-Description:Resent-Date: Resent-From:Resent-Sender:Resent-To:Resent-Cc:Resent-Message-ID:List-Id: List-Help:List-Unsubscribe:List-Subscribe:List-Post:List-Owner:List-Archive; bh=X6k1qW3IaLyevi8l8yzI2mW4WcYnXrkj3DYn/gzTRMY=; b=B7mZ+wo8s1EyEzWetd8+jDpMW icHwbwBSpj5MH9xaGKkgNBXlQ1sFpCgXPFhVZ+7sKM8fpxn+ym6le0Rj6BvtT8tBOHm/t4IC9YCRT SV4wv/NrUT+/k4uIkaKv6CEnV78A0KkgoCNdaEQgqSJkv/zD+jh7oLbx47cIOJbmcH9P4g8zMpeHT nv72+SoOxqqm/hrbpWu7A3XpW+36jckiax/VQGMVBoorN/ARu0M1EbMKvhC+2LLFK7FiGTb3KGRDE QNJDQ8H5im1d8we77yR2y2oqtlvTcJdvWRDxuQYi73A8ZO5gb7aHtRWGLeI/qmnooHn7hbyiGmdWC AaAs7RnDA==; Received: from janus-nat-128-240-225-75.ncl.ac.uk ([128.240.225.75]:44672 helo=russet.org.uk) by cloud103.planethippo.com with esmtpsa (TLSv1.2:ECDHE-RSA-AES256-GCM-SHA384:256) (Exim 4.88) (envelope-from ) id 1ckvWd-00008J-KM; Mon, 06 Mar 2017 16:30:19 +0000 From: phillip.lord@russet.org.uk (Phillip Lord) References: <87lgu4qfst.fsf@russet.org.uk> <874m0q7xo6.fsf@russet.org.uk> <83a8ah4wh8.fsf@gnu.org> <87fuk839l7.fsf@russet.org.uk> <83tw8o3169.fsf@gnu.org> <87o9yfzk3z.fsf@russet.org.uk> <83h94772di.fsf@gnu.org> <878tp8sx4l.fsf@russet.org.uk> <87k28loo4a.fsf@russet.org.uk> <8737ex0wdh.fsf@russet.org.uk> <83tw7bn1rf.fsf@gnu.org> <83d1dxl5qj.fsf@gnu.org> <99bc74ba0694143cac8ff0e33f076a2a.squirrel@cloud103.planethippo.com> <86fuir60m3.fsf@gmail.com> <1c546ac847c33d8cb0a789d43eca4ec2.squirrel@cloud103.planethippo.com> <83zigziizy.fsf@gnu.org> Date: Mon, 06 Mar 2017 16:30:19 +0000 In-Reply-To: <83zigziizy.fsf@gnu.org> (Eli Zaretskii's message of "Sun, 05 Mar 2017 22:08:49 +0200") Message-ID: <874lz6mkpw.fsf@russet.org.uk> User-Agent: Gnus/5.13 (Gnus v5.13) Emacs/25.2 (gnu/linux) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain X-AntiAbuse: This header was added to track abuse, please include it with any abuse report X-AntiAbuse: Primary Hostname - cloud103.planethippo.com X-AntiAbuse: Original Domain - debbugs.gnu.org X-AntiAbuse: Originator/Caller UID/GID - [47 12] / [47 12] X-AntiAbuse: Sender Address Domain - russet.org.uk X-Get-Message-Sender-Via: cloud103.planethippo.com: authenticated_id: phillip.lord@russet.org.uk X-Authenticated-Sender: cloud103.planethippo.com: phillip.lord@russet.org.uk X-Source: X-Source-Args: X-Source-Dir: X-Spam-Score: 0.0 (/) X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18 Precedence: list List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Sender: "Debbugs-submit" X-Spam-Score: 0.0 (/) Eli Zaretskii writes: >> Date: Sun, 5 Mar 2017 18:58:52 -0000 >> From: "Phillip Lord" >> Cc: 25360@debbugs.gnu.org >> >> In the mean time, try stuffing this: >> >> (autoload 'w32-convert-standard-filename "w32-fns.el" nil nil nil) >> >> into ldefs-boot-auto.el. generate-ldefs-boot adds this for me anyway. If >> it works for you, I can add this to master quicker than I can revert. > > Why would that change anything? ldefs-boot-manual.el already includes > that line, so ldefs-boot-auto.el doesn't have to, right? Ah, yes, missed that, sorry. Can't we just drop windows builds? That would make life easier. Phil From unknown Mon Jun 23 00:36:20 2025 X-Loop: help-debbugs@gnu.org Subject: bug#25360: File mode specification errors during building Resent-From: phillip.lord@russet.org.uk (Phillip Lord) Original-Sender: "Debbugs-submit" Resent-CC: bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org Resent-Date: Mon, 06 Mar 2017 16:32:01 +0000 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-Sender: help-debbugs@gnu.org X-GNU-PR-Message: followup 25360 X-GNU-PR-Package: emacs X-GNU-PR-Keywords: To: Andy Moreton Cc: 25360@debbugs.gnu.org Received: via spool by 25360-submit@debbugs.gnu.org id=B25360.148881787130894 (code B ref 25360); Mon, 06 Mar 2017 16:32:01 +0000 Received: (at 25360) by debbugs.gnu.org; 6 Mar 2017 16:31:11 +0000 Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:43003 helo=debbugs.gnu.org) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1ckvXT-00082E-E9 for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Mon, 06 Mar 2017 11:31:11 -0500 Received: from cloud103.planethippo.com ([78.129.138.110]:55238) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1ckvXS-000822-BV for 25360@debbugs.gnu.org; Mon, 06 Mar 2017 11:31:10 -0500 DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; q=dns/txt; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=russet.org.uk; s=default; h=Content-Type:MIME-Version:Message-ID: In-Reply-To:Date:References:Subject:Cc:To:From:Sender:Reply-To: Content-Transfer-Encoding:Content-ID:Content-Description:Resent-Date: Resent-From:Resent-Sender:Resent-To:Resent-Cc:Resent-Message-ID:List-Id: List-Help:List-Unsubscribe:List-Subscribe:List-Post:List-Owner:List-Archive; bh=ralu7ha2NEt3OXFJZ09grjEmElyPLF85sl7uxTIpNhE=; b=I8Ohx0N7vtEyF9jB04oWeBK9i j6iG4C9mbwETz1M8nCd+UD7MyHeLbIVwLQQfgHEsRjnxB67LPDsZMCI062P2TV2fuZXfJUFDWlr+r YhAvzVjqDUe6ACIjLlvrXTpbwGsk1aS8WeoXFztKc0XxIQCevywbXllBCkZYFp8BeTK6XLDpg2yzF 4R8rf/vURtO4HeXddyvqUE2b7yk/5xgk5Mkr2adCttu2YQjqu4TaM9Ysrm8jIzf3lCZ1T6p4F4dQa qhKy+BipO+NVmj+kVmyAcV1QiqCyThv1ommutInlt7TsPYd9V0HW1BTEzItwRSy4Rr9Gnyx11AU3e mByhfrodw==; Received: from janus-nat-128-240-225-75.ncl.ac.uk ([128.240.225.75]:39873 helo=russet.org.uk) by cloud103.planethippo.com with esmtpsa (TLSv1.2:ECDHE-RSA-AES256-GCM-SHA384:256) (Exim 4.88) (envelope-from ) id 1ckvXM-0001Q0-Pu; Mon, 06 Mar 2017 16:31:04 +0000 From: phillip.lord@russet.org.uk (Phillip Lord) References: <87lgu4qfst.fsf@russet.org.uk> <874m0q7xo6.fsf@russet.org.uk> <83a8ah4wh8.fsf@gnu.org> <87fuk839l7.fsf@russet.org.uk> <83tw8o3169.fsf@gnu.org> <87o9yfzk3z.fsf@russet.org.uk> <83h94772di.fsf@gnu.org> <878tp8sx4l.fsf@russet.org.uk> <87k28loo4a.fsf@russet.org.uk> <8737ex0wdh.fsf@russet.org.uk> <83tw7bn1rf.fsf@gnu.org> <83d1dxl5qj.fsf@gnu.org> <99bc74ba0694143cac8ff0e33f076a2a.squirrel@cloud103.planethippo.com> <86fuir60m3.fsf@gmail.com> <1c546ac847c33d8cb0a789d43eca4ec2.squirrel@cloud103.planethippo.com> <83zigziizy.fsf@gnu.org> Date: Mon, 06 Mar 2017 16:31:04 +0000 In-Reply-To: (Andy Moreton's message of "Mon, 06 Mar 2017 12:07:41 +0000") Message-ID: <87zigyl647.fsf@russet.org.uk> User-Agent: Gnus/5.13 (Gnus v5.13) Emacs/25.2 (gnu/linux) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain X-AntiAbuse: This header was added to track abuse, please include it with any abuse report X-AntiAbuse: Primary Hostname - cloud103.planethippo.com X-AntiAbuse: Original Domain - debbugs.gnu.org X-AntiAbuse: Originator/Caller UID/GID - [47 12] / [47 12] X-AntiAbuse: Sender Address Domain - russet.org.uk X-Get-Message-Sender-Via: cloud103.planethippo.com: authenticated_id: phillip.lord@russet.org.uk X-Authenticated-Sender: cloud103.planethippo.com: phillip.lord@russet.org.uk X-Source: X-Source-Args: X-Source-Dir: X-Spam-Score: 0.0 (/) X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18 Precedence: list List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Sender: "Debbugs-submit" X-Spam-Score: 0.0 (/) Andy Moreton writes: >>> (autoload 'w32-convert-standard-filename "w32-fns.el" nil nil nil) >>> >>> into ldefs-boot-auto.el. generate-ldefs-boot adds this for me anyway. If >>> it works for you, I can add this to master quicker than I can revert. >> >> Why would that change anything? ldefs-boot-manual.el already includes >> that line, so ldefs-boot-auto.el doesn't have to, right? > > Adding this to does not remove the build failures, so Eli is correct. > > What is needed is to revert the changes that caused this regression in > the build machinery. That is on the branch that I emailed earlier. Will be happy to hear if it solves the issue. Phil From unknown Mon Jun 23 00:36:20 2025 X-Loop: help-debbugs@gnu.org Subject: bug#25360: File mode specification errors during building Resent-From: Eli Zaretskii Original-Sender: "Debbugs-submit" Resent-CC: bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org Resent-Date: Mon, 06 Mar 2017 18:39:02 +0000 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-Sender: help-debbugs@gnu.org X-GNU-PR-Message: followup 25360 X-GNU-PR-Package: emacs X-GNU-PR-Keywords: To: phillip.lord@russet.org.uk (Phillip Lord) Cc: andrewjmoreton@gmail.com, 25360@debbugs.gnu.org Reply-To: Eli Zaretskii Received: via spool by 25360-submit@debbugs.gnu.org id=B25360.148882552924293 (code B ref 25360); Mon, 06 Mar 2017 18:39:02 +0000 Received: (at 25360) by debbugs.gnu.org; 6 Mar 2017 18:38:49 +0000 Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:43132 helo=debbugs.gnu.org) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1ckxWz-0006Jl-K7 for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Mon, 06 Mar 2017 13:38:49 -0500 Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([208.118.235.92]:46113) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1ckxWx-0006JU-Le for 25360@debbugs.gnu.org; Mon, 06 Mar 2017 13:38:47 -0500 Received: from Debian-exim by eggs.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1ckxWo-0003qh-MV for 25360@debbugs.gnu.org; Mon, 06 Mar 2017 13:38:42 -0500 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.3.2 (2011-06-06) on eggs.gnu.org X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-0.0 required=5.0 tests=BAYES_40,RP_MATCHES_RCVD autolearn=disabled version=3.3.2 Received: from fencepost.gnu.org ([2001:4830:134:3::e]:51843) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1ckxWo-0003qd-Jj; Mon, 06 Mar 2017 13:38:38 -0500 Received: from 84.94.185.246.cable.012.net.il ([84.94.185.246]:2298 helo=home-c4e4a596f7) by fencepost.gnu.org with esmtpsa (TLS1.2:RSA_AES_256_CBC_SHA1:256) (Exim 4.82) (envelope-from ) id 1ckxWn-0007S5-O5; Mon, 06 Mar 2017 13:38:38 -0500 Date: Mon, 06 Mar 2017 20:38:25 +0200 Message-Id: <83d1dui732.fsf@gnu.org> From: Eli Zaretskii In-reply-to: <874lz6mkpw.fsf@russet.org.uk> (phillip.lord@russet.org.uk) References: <87lgu4qfst.fsf@russet.org.uk> <874m0q7xo6.fsf@russet.org.uk> <83a8ah4wh8.fsf@gnu.org> <87fuk839l7.fsf@russet.org.uk> <83tw8o3169.fsf@gnu.org> <87o9yfzk3z.fsf@russet.org.uk> <83h94772di.fsf@gnu.org> <878tp8sx4l.fsf@russet.org.uk> <87k28loo4a.fsf@russet.org.uk> <8737ex0wdh.fsf@russet.org.uk> <83tw7bn1rf.fsf@gnu.org> <83d1dxl5qj.fsf@gnu.org> <99bc74ba0694143cac8ff0e33f076a2a.squirrel@cloud103.planethippo.com> <86fuir60m3.fsf@gmail.com> <1c546ac847c33d8cb0a789d43eca4ec2.squirrel@cloud103.planethippo.com> <83zigziizy.fsf@gnu.org> <874lz6mkpw.fsf@russet.org.uk> X-detected-operating-system: by eggs.gnu.org: GNU/Linux 2.2.x-3.x [generic] X-Received-From: 2001:4830:134:3::e X-Spam-Score: -5.0 (-----) X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18 Precedence: list List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Sender: "Debbugs-submit" X-Spam-Score: -5.0 (-----) > From: phillip.lord@russet.org.uk (Phillip Lord) > Cc: andrewjmoreton@gmail.com, 25360@debbugs.gnu.org > Date: Mon, 06 Mar 2017 16:30:19 +0000 > > Can't we just drop windows builds? That would make life easier. We indeed intend to do that, on April 1st. From unknown Mon Jun 23 00:36:20 2025 X-Loop: help-debbugs@gnu.org Subject: bug#25360: File mode specification errors during building Resent-From: Noam Postavsky Original-Sender: "Debbugs-submit" Resent-CC: bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org Resent-Date: Mon, 06 Mar 2017 19:57:02 +0000 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-Sender: help-debbugs@gnu.org X-GNU-PR-Message: followup 25360 X-GNU-PR-Package: emacs X-GNU-PR-Keywords: To: Phillip Lord Cc: Eli Zaretskii , 25360@debbugs.gnu.org Received: via spool by 25360-submit@debbugs.gnu.org id=B25360.14888302045951 (code B ref 25360); Mon, 06 Mar 2017 19:57:02 +0000 Received: (at 25360) by debbugs.gnu.org; 6 Mar 2017 19:56:44 +0000 Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:43216 helo=debbugs.gnu.org) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1ckykN-0001Xv-V6 for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Mon, 06 Mar 2017 14:56:44 -0500 Received: from mail-oi0-f41.google.com ([209.85.218.41]:35019) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1ckykM-0001Xj-4D for 25360@debbugs.gnu.org; Mon, 06 Mar 2017 14:56:42 -0500 Received: by mail-oi0-f41.google.com with SMTP id 62so91271245oih.2 for <25360@debbugs.gnu.org>; Mon, 06 Mar 2017 11:56:42 -0800 (PST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20161025; h=mime-version:sender:in-reply-to:references:from:date:message-id :subject:to:cc; bh=gAHDWepKStW2+9lzOHrDxUQyElgf9cQZo4ol3ZYTywc=; b=H2D2+V6WOJOjiaOoK0KSMrXlZwumD36c/n2vIa1On36B/dBWdjfOjsrw5gPSmAwOHU rO+XC/zF/3oxNO9iQsv5qNneT3fXLPDqEQ8qNHKz6iG0mHKF5FYPBwkjBEi4Wz1aqmal cfJ8AJ1VL1vQaA88ZJCcZhBGtrl3jjNMwG3JK2YEqJgn3GFmxtEdZTv/NWgVd/0f0F95 lqskxY7coRxCUOhF5I3RhFkDSloyibsOdl7U3Cw2+3uQJPbXJ49oclxvIfsDhm6RULWX 9bKM5wYVurdOZ0SX9KzkQwjuMmiAWKJCsBBJwY+QnzVo3g0hiHcICoFD63A41jB5NTXU QICg== X-Google-DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=1e100.net; s=20161025; h=x-gm-message-state:mime-version:sender:in-reply-to:references:from :date:message-id:subject:to:cc; bh=gAHDWepKStW2+9lzOHrDxUQyElgf9cQZo4ol3ZYTywc=; b=FgFXpcX7j9D/9IQochHRcE9mKcXm4eAyklf9/68tJxjV9CfyjBhmIljgMsvEqbtOXo oc5113/vlETa4DT6isGNXmHJXLAJCcxkDWA0QF1ATJrROlVHtaaAX2FlOHaOCegv65u5 dvFMAH68LutdAzFc7lBjxZviftsDItsTj+BIvcZbxELx98N5IPr/0d5Lo3yMdR4vF2NH GFV1VGVeij5SxzP29OeDSDriQcDah5X0QB07HdQA59+TTaCEB4497w8I0g5rhjo6Qqez leJ0fksikCaoBqC+DslMqYBjPpuMAlD69RPiCgvd9ahxurNr8AJu8wAZ/24G6QF+V/wB 4bSg== X-Gm-Message-State: AMke39mx+QyEKmLwEYXqQrkB0N/HnBh3eR7Y4FJSWBfvq+faYCdlLD+TPKMNg9uWo2slTxlstjeKoumpMWjuNg== X-Received: by 10.202.89.139 with SMTP id n133mr8512735oib.70.1488830196297; Mon, 06 Mar 2017 11:56:36 -0800 (PST) MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.157.80.172 with HTTP; Mon, 6 Mar 2017 11:56:35 -0800 (PST) In-Reply-To: <87zigymnde.fsf@russet.org.uk> References: <83k29r6nnw.fsf@gnu.org> <87lgu4qfst.fsf@russet.org.uk> <874m0q7xo6.fsf@russet.org.uk> <83a8ah4wh8.fsf@gnu.org> <87fuk839l7.fsf@russet.org.uk> <83tw8o3169.fsf@gnu.org> <87o9yfzk3z.fsf@russet.org.uk> <83h94772di.fsf@gnu.org> <878tp8sx4l.fsf@russet.org.uk> <87k28loo4a.fsf@russet.org.uk> <8737ex0wdh.fsf@russet.org.uk> <83tw7bn1rf.fsf@gnu.org> <83d1dxl5qj.fsf@gnu.org> <99bc74ba0694143cac8ff0e33f076a2a.squirrel@cloud103.planethippo.com> <8360jpl2jv.fsf@gnu.org> <8337etl1qj.fsf@gnu.org> <87zigymnde.fsf@russet.org.uk> From: Noam Postavsky Date: Mon, 6 Mar 2017 14:56:35 -0500 X-Google-Sender-Auth: TyA6HSLxkl_JlP9rZHMa277iT_0 Message-ID: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 X-Spam-Score: 0.0 (/) X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18 Precedence: list List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Sender: "Debbugs-submit" X-Spam-Score: 0.0 (/) On Mon, Mar 6, 2017 at 10:33 AM, Phillip Lord wrote: > > > I've pushed the reversion to git. > > http://git.savannah.gnu.org/cgit/emacs.git/log/?h=fix/great-revert-bill > > Be happy if someone could try it and see if removes the problem. > This still fails on Windows with GEN ../../lisp/net/tramp-loaddefs.el Symbol's function definition is void: w32-convert-standard-filename make[2]: *** [Makefile:404: ../../lisp/net/tramp-loaddefs.el] Error 127 After reverting 1b9463051823 "Remove conditional includes from bootstrap" and deleting bootstrap-emacs.exe, I was able to build successfully. From unknown Mon Jun 23 00:36:20 2025 X-Loop: help-debbugs@gnu.org Subject: bug#25360: File mode specification errors during building Resent-From: Eli Zaretskii Original-Sender: "Debbugs-submit" Resent-CC: bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org Resent-Date: Mon, 06 Mar 2017 20:55:02 +0000 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-Sender: help-debbugs@gnu.org X-GNU-PR-Message: followup 25360 X-GNU-PR-Package: emacs X-GNU-PR-Keywords: To: Noam Postavsky Cc: 25360@debbugs.gnu.org, phillip.lord@russet.org.uk Reply-To: Eli Zaretskii Received: via spool by 25360-submit@debbugs.gnu.org id=B25360.148883365211336 (code B ref 25360); Mon, 06 Mar 2017 20:55:02 +0000 Received: (at 25360) by debbugs.gnu.org; 6 Mar 2017 20:54:12 +0000 Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:43246 helo=debbugs.gnu.org) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1ckzdz-0002wl-Oz for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Mon, 06 Mar 2017 15:54:11 -0500 Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([208.118.235.92]:60221) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1ckzdy-0002wa-Gt for 25360@debbugs.gnu.org; Mon, 06 Mar 2017 15:54:10 -0500 Received: from Debian-exim by eggs.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1ckzdp-0003gn-0j for 25360@debbugs.gnu.org; Mon, 06 Mar 2017 15:54:05 -0500 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.3.2 (2011-06-06) on eggs.gnu.org X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-0.0 required=5.0 tests=BAYES_20,RP_MATCHES_RCVD autolearn=disabled version=3.3.2 Received: from fencepost.gnu.org ([2001:4830:134:3::e]:53839) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1ckzdo-0003gj-Tl; Mon, 06 Mar 2017 15:54:00 -0500 Received: from 84.94.185.246.cable.012.net.il ([84.94.185.246]:3542 helo=home-c4e4a596f7) by fencepost.gnu.org with esmtpsa (TLS1.2:RSA_AES_256_CBC_SHA1:256) (Exim 4.82) (envelope-from ) id 1ckzdo-0005EA-3X; Mon, 06 Mar 2017 15:54:00 -0500 Date: Mon, 06 Mar 2017 22:53:44 +0200 Message-Id: <8360jmi0tj.fsf@gnu.org> From: Eli Zaretskii In-reply-to: (message from Noam Postavsky on Mon, 6 Mar 2017 14:56:35 -0500) References: <83k29r6nnw.fsf@gnu.org> <87lgu4qfst.fsf@russet.org.uk> <874m0q7xo6.fsf@russet.org.uk> <83a8ah4wh8.fsf@gnu.org> <87fuk839l7.fsf@russet.org.uk> <83tw8o3169.fsf@gnu.org> <87o9yfzk3z.fsf@russet.org.uk> <83h94772di.fsf@gnu.org> <878tp8sx4l.fsf@russet.org.uk> <87k28loo4a.fsf@russet.org.uk> <8737ex0wdh.fsf@russet.org.uk> <83tw7bn1rf.fsf@gnu.org> <83d1dxl5qj.fsf@gnu.org> <99bc74ba0694143cac8ff0e33f076a2a.squirrel@cloud103.planethippo.com> <8360jpl2jv.fsf@gnu.org> <8337etl1qj.fsf@gnu.org> <87zigymnde.fsf@russet.org.uk> X-detected-operating-system: by eggs.gnu.org: GNU/Linux 2.2.x-3.x [generic] X-Received-From: 2001:4830:134:3::e X-Spam-Score: -5.0 (-----) X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18 Precedence: list List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Sender: "Debbugs-submit" X-Spam-Score: -5.0 (-----) > From: Noam Postavsky > Date: Mon, 6 Mar 2017 14:56:35 -0500 > Cc: Eli Zaretskii , 25360@debbugs.gnu.org > > This still fails on Windows with > > GEN ../../lisp/net/tramp-loaddefs.el > Symbol's function definition is void: w32-convert-standard-filename > make[2]: *** [Makefile:404: ../../lisp/net/tramp-loaddefs.el] Error 127 > > After reverting 1b9463051823 "Remove conditional includes from > bootstrap" and deleting bootstrap-emacs.exe, I was able to build > successfully. Hmm... I don't get it: why did that commit make Emacs bypass loading important packages when invoked with "loadup bootstrap"? Phillip, can you explain the rationale? From unknown Mon Jun 23 00:36:20 2025 X-Loop: help-debbugs@gnu.org Subject: bug#25360: File mode specification errors during building Resent-From: Noam Postavsky Original-Sender: "Debbugs-submit" Resent-CC: bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org Resent-Date: Mon, 06 Mar 2017 21:11:02 +0000 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-Sender: help-debbugs@gnu.org X-GNU-PR-Message: followup 25360 X-GNU-PR-Package: emacs X-GNU-PR-Keywords: To: Eli Zaretskii Cc: 25360@debbugs.gnu.org, Phillip Lord Received: via spool by 25360-submit@debbugs.gnu.org id=B25360.148883461012888 (code B ref 25360); Mon, 06 Mar 2017 21:11:02 +0000 Received: (at 25360) by debbugs.gnu.org; 6 Mar 2017 21:10:10 +0000 Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:43257 helo=debbugs.gnu.org) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1ckztS-0003Ln-EQ for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Mon, 06 Mar 2017 16:10:10 -0500 Received: from mail-ot0-f169.google.com ([74.125.82.169]:35079) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1ckztQ-0003La-B0 for 25360@debbugs.gnu.org; Mon, 06 Mar 2017 16:10:08 -0500 Received: by mail-ot0-f169.google.com with SMTP id x37so77761917ota.2 for <25360@debbugs.gnu.org>; Mon, 06 Mar 2017 13:10:08 -0800 (PST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20161025; h=mime-version:sender:in-reply-to:references:from:date:message-id :subject:to:cc; bh=Gyz3yqmYP99Tt+VfN9RkDdULSmjMjldICVzfdGHt0ko=; b=vMqxj3zj4HQ4Zygv5y2gvfQ/3E9i/Lwu49kDg9M5FtnDUDnmQc5WEo8ScHW9p5mGDe RBJI3TBP3xqhSfbllm/Ku5IbGO4cEHya3ERPabar4EpbZxK1bLBqGCtO4r0DT7ZQNuxe 4W/f6C9wgJziEb3wkWcJqZdB8YuJdHIU46zDfd5Sf0CJblmyoZhrpb3ABc2IU5nkOdqv 7U4827Ed5LjCAgWRwKSUdrOqJbiCBQeQvjE8vmFcZe0zcbWrh0Ei1nq7pWZDmOx+5Gb+ jfetEnnYYx3l/jK9KUmVAtAfwFyVzKsuTglNKnSEynyUqYn9rzP395VOx4rx9Xj2Gbnt MoRw== X-Google-DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=1e100.net; s=20161025; h=x-gm-message-state:mime-version:sender:in-reply-to:references:from :date:message-id:subject:to:cc; bh=Gyz3yqmYP99Tt+VfN9RkDdULSmjMjldICVzfdGHt0ko=; b=UA38wYAf6gLWkyi2NaIDe1vRZfLQ7tkRMFbDJlD5yhpGIXY9YrYShSy/mWNYycCaz+ ho+3eiYHZr25wF60f9b/zXJEYLiKWiTCz9P/RIXsoEqC945quuz4sW44VhlSxPLvMuCy 3nKzZphg3QkiIXQroamHN7K4NeshXUCEWin+klqBJTATXP6/NEecTjurc7BttBvUT2bn L8h+g9s6a4QHU5JMQl7dyYkz8G4KeLVY6AjS1n6thBrklIhKGvbl2r9dbaJWqrWIkeEY 93xkCrKu0dfZtkQEx4qbi5cB5K+Q4fKUcmCFi3RgP585VgBhRxSyLhfttcgU9jMMf6jR 1aVg== X-Gm-Message-State: AMke39ldLVy/TodBjSpo0sVGxR+b9fmU8ZzakYgLaWwdfqvb6+eg7NPBwiv3eK3luBzX0RM8nQ3OipmO3UcfvA== X-Received: by 10.157.68.163 with SMTP id v35mr8580797ote.55.1488834602434; Mon, 06 Mar 2017 13:10:02 -0800 (PST) MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.157.80.172 with HTTP; Mon, 6 Mar 2017 13:10:01 -0800 (PST) In-Reply-To: <8360jmi0tj.fsf@gnu.org> References: <83k29r6nnw.fsf@gnu.org> <87lgu4qfst.fsf@russet.org.uk> <874m0q7xo6.fsf@russet.org.uk> <83a8ah4wh8.fsf@gnu.org> <87fuk839l7.fsf@russet.org.uk> <83tw8o3169.fsf@gnu.org> <87o9yfzk3z.fsf@russet.org.uk> <83h94772di.fsf@gnu.org> <878tp8sx4l.fsf@russet.org.uk> <87k28loo4a.fsf@russet.org.uk> <8737ex0wdh.fsf@russet.org.uk> <83tw7bn1rf.fsf@gnu.org> <83d1dxl5qj.fsf@gnu.org> <99bc74ba0694143cac8ff0e33f076a2a.squirrel@cloud103.planethippo.com> <8360jpl2jv.fsf@gnu.org> <8337etl1qj.fsf@gnu.org> <87zigymnde.fsf@russet.org.uk> <8360jmi0tj.fsf@gnu.org> From: Noam Postavsky Date: Mon, 6 Mar 2017 16:10:01 -0500 X-Google-Sender-Auth: r_VlO8L04qAluXwy-Vr-5DyZjaQ Message-ID: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 X-Spam-Score: 0.2 (/) X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18 Precedence: list List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Sender: "Debbugs-submit" X-Spam-Score: 0.2 (/) On Mon, Mar 6, 2017 at 3:53 PM, Eli Zaretskii wrote: >> >> After reverting 1b9463051823 "Remove conditional includes from >> bootstrap" and deleting bootstrap-emacs.exe, I was able to build >> successfully. > > Hmm... I don't get it: why did that commit make Emacs bypass loading > important packages when invoked with "loadup bootstrap"? Phillip, can > you explain the rationale? It's discussed upthread, it has to do with making one of the ldefs files consistent across configurations. https://debbugs.gnu.org/cgi/bugreport.cgi?bug=25360#72 https://debbugs.gnu.org/cgi/bugreport.cgi?bug=25360#93 It should not be needed now that we're going back to the old system, AFAIK. From unknown Mon Jun 23 00:36:20 2025 X-Loop: help-debbugs@gnu.org Subject: bug#25360: File mode specification errors during building Resent-From: "Phillip Lord" Original-Sender: "Debbugs-submit" Resent-CC: bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org Resent-Date: Mon, 06 Mar 2017 21:26:02 +0000 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-Sender: help-debbugs@gnu.org X-GNU-PR-Message: followup 25360 X-GNU-PR-Package: emacs X-GNU-PR-Keywords: To: "Eli Zaretskii" Cc: 25360@debbugs.gnu.org, phillip.lord@russet.org.uk, Noam Postavsky Received: via spool by 25360-submit@debbugs.gnu.org id=B25360.148883556114446 (code B ref 25360); Mon, 06 Mar 2017 21:26:02 +0000 Received: (at 25360) by debbugs.gnu.org; 6 Mar 2017 21:26:01 +0000 Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:43272 helo=debbugs.gnu.org) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1cl08n-0003kt-BM for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Mon, 06 Mar 2017 16:26:01 -0500 Received: from cloud103.planethippo.com ([78.129.138.110]:51782) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1cl08m-0003ki-76 for 25360@debbugs.gnu.org; Mon, 06 Mar 2017 16:26:00 -0500 DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; q=dns/txt; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=russet.org.uk; s=default; h=Content-Transfer-Encoding:Content-Type: MIME-Version:Cc:To:From:Subject:Date:References:In-Reply-To:Message-ID:Sender :Reply-To:Content-ID:Content-Description:Resent-Date:Resent-From: Resent-Sender:Resent-To:Resent-Cc:Resent-Message-ID:List-Id:List-Help: List-Unsubscribe:List-Subscribe:List-Post:List-Owner:List-Archive; bh=iBxHdhH+tvEcNLCoQiv+BmzZCXxZ9zQ/OS7atqFhLDg=; b=lDMaF3tsHLTg6jBLR2xrpBlfnq HbRwkdQ5lafpxhg80Rds5b/8N2M5WYDj4T/hx31LhjrxVhBP+83CByyUAoD7KpQm4QGK4FXqLveTc wduiUfZP2nv9tWFN/hLs9cJRU/7MtqLRcuGZXtmpJpWslw4f0XMWEnbuLa+BRopJUyVcpIDR4QRcb eofDuYnDNzbZlO2L5PAAXeIdUS1PqEukX43R1cm9cwfMM+5DoawcfsE5+W+dwGuZmd+vYNS2AStNn jvT/XNx80eUwTw8xG5K/z3WJvT73gVtPAMYVfx4lr2Tq0QktOU57hIr5Nrj5Qv5Vft5+p+/h+w66J bwE2RXcA==; Received: from [127.0.0.1] (port=39150 helo=cloud103.planethippo.com) by cloud103.planethippo.com with esmtpa (Exim 4.88) (envelope-from ) id 1cl08g-0007a4-56; Mon, 06 Mar 2017 21:25:54 +0000 Received: from 92.238.179.168 ([92.238.179.168]) (SquirrelMail authenticated user phillip.lord@russet.org.uk) by cloud103.planethippo.com with HTTP; Mon, 6 Mar 2017 21:25:54 -0000 Message-ID: <74d51970ac3619bcd58831e79d195937.squirrel@cloud103.planethippo.com> In-Reply-To: <8360jmi0tj.fsf@gnu.org> References: <83k29r6nnw.fsf@gnu.org> <87lgu4qfst.fsf@russet.org.uk> <874m0q7xo6.fsf@russet.org.uk> <83a8ah4wh8.fsf@gnu.org> <87fuk839l7.fsf@russet.org.uk> <83tw8o3169.fsf@gnu.org> <87o9yfzk3z.fsf@russet.org.uk> <83h94772di.fsf@gnu.org> <878tp8sx4l.fsf@russet.org.uk> <87k28loo4a.fsf@russet.org.uk> <8737ex0wdh.fsf@russet.org.uk> <83tw7bn1rf.fsf@gnu.org> <83d1dxl5qj.fsf@gnu.org> <99bc74ba0694143cac8ff0e33f076a2a.squirrel@cloud103.planethippo.com> <8360jpl2jv.fsf@gnu.org> <8337etl1qj.fsf@gnu.org> <87zigymnde.fsf@russet.org.uk> <8360jmi0tj.fsf@gnu.org> Date: Mon, 6 Mar 2017 21:25:54 -0000 From: "Phillip Lord" User-Agent: SquirrelMail/1.5.2 [SVN] MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain;charset=utf-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-AntiAbuse: This header was added to track abuse, please include it with any abuse report X-AntiAbuse: Primary Hostname - cloud103.planethippo.com X-AntiAbuse: Original Domain - debbugs.gnu.org X-AntiAbuse: Originator/Caller UID/GID - [47 12] / [47 12] X-AntiAbuse: Sender Address Domain - russet.org.uk X-Get-Message-Sender-Via: cloud103.planethippo.com: authenticated_id: phillip.lord@russet.org.uk X-Authenticated-Sender: cloud103.planethippo.com: phillip.lord@russet.org.uk X-Source: X-Source-Args: X-Source-Dir: X-Spam-Score: 0.0 (/) X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18 Precedence: list List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Sender: "Debbugs-submit" X-Spam-Score: 0.0 (/) On Mon, March 6, 2017 8:53 pm, Eli Zaretskii wrote: >> From: Noam Postavsky >> Date: Mon, 6 Mar 2017 14:56:35 -0500 >> Cc: Eli Zaretskii , 25360@debbugs.gnu.org >> >> >> This still fails on Windows with >> >> >> GEN ../../lisp/net/tramp-loaddefs.el >> Symbol's function definition is void: w32-convert-standard-filename >> make[2]: *** [Makefile:404: ../../lisp/net/tramp-loaddefs.el] Error 127 >> >> >> After reverting 1b9463051823 "Remove conditional includes from >> bootstrap" and deleting bootstrap-emacs.exe, I was able to build >> successfully. > > Hmm... I don't get it: why did that commit make Emacs bypass loading > important packages when invoked with "loadup bootstrap"? Phillip, can you > explain the rationale? Long story. Don't bother, it's going anyway, I just missed that one. Here's a question, though. Why does files.el use w32-convert-standard-filename, a function which is not actually autoloaded? Ditto dos-convert-standard-filename. From unknown Mon Jun 23 00:36:20 2025 X-Loop: help-debbugs@gnu.org Subject: bug#25360: File mode specification errors during building In-Reply-To: Resent-From: Andy Moreton Original-Sender: "Debbugs-submit" Resent-CC: bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org Resent-Date: Mon, 06 Mar 2017 23:28:01 +0000 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-Sender: help-debbugs@gnu.org X-GNU-PR-Message: followup 25360 X-GNU-PR-Package: emacs X-GNU-PR-Keywords: To: 25360@debbugs.gnu.org X-Debbugs-Original-To: bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org Received: via spool by submit@debbugs.gnu.org id=B.148884285332437 (code B ref -1); Mon, 06 Mar 2017 23:28:01 +0000 Received: (at submit) by debbugs.gnu.org; 6 Mar 2017 23:27:33 +0000 Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:43374 helo=debbugs.gnu.org) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1cl22P-0008R7-85 for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Mon, 06 Mar 2017 18:27:33 -0500 Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([208.118.235.92]:38539) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1cl22O-0008Qu-17 for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Mon, 06 Mar 2017 18:27:32 -0500 Received: from Debian-exim by eggs.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1cl22H-0002aJ-Ul for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Mon, 06 Mar 2017 18:27:26 -0500 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.3.2 (2011-06-06) on eggs.gnu.org X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=0.8 required=5.0 tests=BAYES_50,FREEMAIL_FROM autolearn=disabled version=3.3.2 Received: from lists.gnu.org ([2001:4830:134:3::11]:46183) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS1.0:RSA_AES_256_CBC_SHA1:32) (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1cl22H-0002aF-Rl for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Mon, 06 Mar 2017 18:27:25 -0500 Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([2001:4830:134:3::10]:57739) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1cl22G-0000nv-Kz for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Mon, 06 Mar 2017 18:27:25 -0500 Received: from Debian-exim by eggs.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1cl22D-0002ZO-Gf for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Mon, 06 Mar 2017 18:27:24 -0500 Received: from [195.159.176.226] (port=52927 helo=blaine.gmane.org) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS1.0:RSA_AES_128_CBC_SHA1:16) (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1cl22D-0002Z1-AD for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Mon, 06 Mar 2017 18:27:21 -0500 Received: from list by blaine.gmane.org with local (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1cl223-0007aT-TD for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Tue, 07 Mar 2017 00:27:11 +0100 X-Injected-Via-Gmane: http://gmane.org/ From: Andy Moreton Date: Mon, 06 Mar 2017 23:26:58 +0000 Lines: 25 Message-ID: <86varm2dh9.fsf@gmail.com> References: <874m0q7xo6.fsf@russet.org.uk> <83a8ah4wh8.fsf@gnu.org> <87fuk839l7.fsf@russet.org.uk> <83tw8o3169.fsf@gnu.org> <87o9yfzk3z.fsf@russet.org.uk> <83h94772di.fsf@gnu.org> <878tp8sx4l.fsf@russet.org.uk> <87k28loo4a.fsf@russet.org.uk> <8737ex0wdh.fsf@russet.org.uk> <83tw7bn1rf.fsf@gnu.org> <83d1dxl5qj.fsf@gnu.org> <99bc74ba0694143cac8ff0e33f076a2a.squirrel@cloud103.planethippo.com> <86fuir60m3.fsf@gmail.com> <1c546ac847c33d8cb0a789d43eca4ec2.squirrel@cloud103.planethippo.com> <83zigziizy.fsf@gnu.org> <87zigyl647.fsf@russet.org.uk> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain X-Complaints-To: usenet@blaine.gmane.org User-Agent: Gnus/5.13 (Gnus v5.13) Emacs/25.2 (windows-nt) Cancel-Lock: sha1:D8SdZ+L8We0FzWKBNtTZ1sIITSw= X-detected-operating-system: by eggs.gnu.org: GNU/Linux 2.2.x-3.x [generic] [fuzzy] X-detected-operating-system: by eggs.gnu.org: GNU/Linux 2.6.x X-Received-From: 2001:4830:134:3::11 X-Spam-Score: -4.8 (----) X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18 Precedence: list List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Sender: "Debbugs-submit" X-Spam-Score: -4.8 (----) On Mon 06 Mar 2017, Phillip Lord wrote: > Andy Moreton writes: >>>> (autoload 'w32-convert-standard-filename "w32-fns.el" nil nil nil) >>>> >>>> into ldefs-boot-auto.el. generate-ldefs-boot adds this for me anyway. If >>>> it works for you, I can add this to master quicker than I can revert. >>> >>> Why would that change anything? ldefs-boot-manual.el already includes >>> that line, so ldefs-boot-auto.el doesn't have to, right? >> >> Adding this to does not remove the build failures, so Eli is correct. >> >> What is needed is to revert the changes that caused this regression in >> the build machinery. > > > That is on the branch that I emailed earlier. Will be happy to hear if > it solves the issue. I've tried building from a clean tree at commit be85e271 for 64bit Windows (msys2). Bootstraps ok, and making trivial changes to C and lisp files seems to also produce working builds thereafter. AndyM From unknown Mon Jun 23 00:36:20 2025 X-Loop: help-debbugs@gnu.org Subject: bug#25360: File mode specification errors during building Resent-From: Eli Zaretskii Original-Sender: "Debbugs-submit" Resent-CC: bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org Resent-Date: Tue, 07 Mar 2017 03:32:02 +0000 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-Sender: help-debbugs@gnu.org X-GNU-PR-Message: followup 25360 X-GNU-PR-Package: emacs X-GNU-PR-Keywords: To: "Phillip Lord" Cc: 25360@debbugs.gnu.org, npostavs@users.sourceforge.net Reply-To: Eli Zaretskii Received: via spool by 25360-submit@debbugs.gnu.org id=B25360.148885751122318 (code B ref 25360); Tue, 07 Mar 2017 03:32:02 +0000 Received: (at 25360) by debbugs.gnu.org; 7 Mar 2017 03:31:51 +0000 Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:43433 helo=debbugs.gnu.org) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1cl5qp-0005nu-Ax for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Mon, 06 Mar 2017 22:31:51 -0500 Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([208.118.235.92]:36093) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1cl5qm-0005nh-OZ for 25360@debbugs.gnu.org; Mon, 06 Mar 2017 22:31:49 -0500 Received: from Debian-exim by eggs.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1cl5qc-0007rO-Vo for 25360@debbugs.gnu.org; Mon, 06 Mar 2017 22:31:43 -0500 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.3.2 (2011-06-06) on eggs.gnu.org X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-0.0 required=5.0 tests=BAYES_20,RP_MATCHES_RCVD autolearn=disabled version=3.3.2 Received: from fencepost.gnu.org ([2001:4830:134:3::e]:58280) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1cl5qc-0007rK-Sa; Mon, 06 Mar 2017 22:31:38 -0500 Received: from 84.94.185.246.cable.012.net.il ([84.94.185.246]:3711 helo=home-c4e4a596f7) by fencepost.gnu.org with esmtpsa (TLS1.2:RSA_AES_256_CBC_SHA1:256) (Exim 4.82) (envelope-from ) id 1cl5qc-00084E-0J; Mon, 06 Mar 2017 22:31:38 -0500 Date: Tue, 07 Mar 2017 05:31:12 +0200 Message-Id: <834lz5iwzj.fsf@gnu.org> From: Eli Zaretskii In-reply-to: <74d51970ac3619bcd58831e79d195937.squirrel@cloud103.planethippo.com> (phillip.lord@russet.org.uk) References: <83k29r6nnw.fsf@gnu.org> <87lgu4qfst.fsf@russet.org.uk> <874m0q7xo6.fsf@russet.org.uk> <83a8ah4wh8.fsf@gnu.org> <87fuk839l7.fsf@russet.org.uk> <83tw8o3169.fsf@gnu.org> <87o9yfzk3z.fsf@russet.org.uk> <83h94772di.fsf@gnu.org> <878tp8sx4l.fsf@russet.org.uk> <87k28loo4a.fsf@russet.org.uk> <8737ex0wdh.fsf@russet.org.uk> <83tw7bn1rf.fsf@gnu.org> <83d1dxl5qj.fsf@gnu.org> <99bc74ba0694143cac8ff0e33f076a2a.squirrel@cloud103.planethippo.com> <8360jpl2jv.fsf@gnu.org> <8337etl1qj.fsf@gnu.org> <87zigymnde.fsf@russet.org.uk> <8360jmi0tj.fsf@gnu.org> <74d51970ac3619bcd58831e79d195937.squirrel@cloud103.planethippo.com> X-detected-operating-system: by eggs.gnu.org: GNU/Linux 2.2.x-3.x [generic] X-Received-From: 2001:4830:134:3::e X-Spam-Score: -5.0 (-----) X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18 Precedence: list List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Sender: "Debbugs-submit" X-Spam-Score: -5.0 (-----) > Date: Mon, 6 Mar 2017 21:25:54 -0000 > From: "Phillip Lord" > Cc: "Noam Postavsky" , > phillip.lord@russet.org.uk, > 25360@debbugs.gnu.org > > Here's a question, though. Why does files.el use > w32-convert-standard-filename, a function which is not actually > autoloaded? Ditto dos-convert-standard-filename. They are in files that are preloaded on the platforms which need them, so they are always available. From unknown Mon Jun 23 00:36:20 2025 X-Loop: help-debbugs@gnu.org Subject: bug#25360: File mode specification errors during building Resent-From: phillip.lord@russet.org.uk (Phillip Lord) Original-Sender: "Debbugs-submit" Resent-CC: bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org Resent-Date: Tue, 07 Mar 2017 12:27:01 +0000 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-Sender: help-debbugs@gnu.org X-GNU-PR-Message: followup 25360 X-GNU-PR-Package: emacs X-GNU-PR-Keywords: To: Eli Zaretskii Cc: 25360@debbugs.gnu.org, npostavs@users.sourceforge.net Received: via spool by 25360-submit@debbugs.gnu.org id=B25360.148888957622287 (code B ref 25360); Tue, 07 Mar 2017 12:27:01 +0000 Received: (at 25360) by debbugs.gnu.org; 7 Mar 2017 12:26:16 +0000 Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:43676 helo=debbugs.gnu.org) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1clEBz-0005nP-TD for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Tue, 07 Mar 2017 07:26:16 -0500 Received: from cloud103.planethippo.com ([78.129.138.110]:44536) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1clEBy-0005nC-Db for 25360@debbugs.gnu.org; Tue, 07 Mar 2017 07:26:14 -0500 DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; q=dns/txt; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=russet.org.uk; s=default; h=Content-Type:MIME-Version:Message-ID: In-Reply-To:Date:References:Subject:Cc:To:From:Sender:Reply-To: Content-Transfer-Encoding:Content-ID:Content-Description:Resent-Date: Resent-From:Resent-Sender:Resent-To:Resent-Cc:Resent-Message-ID:List-Id: List-Help:List-Unsubscribe:List-Subscribe:List-Post:List-Owner:List-Archive; bh=oPGMW5p037sqEZ7Ka0sW09UO5mhqXX9Z8CKOPcRorbI=; b=J2n4odA9D6kxn/viVWt1i1Oxc 4XGBp9pOmmcADvFOktBdDDY6mY1WCko2hNNmB9x33yBCjtFeEWrt9aFdDWGw0F1HHVPbvjcnW9+0p /8tnkH0NJMd+dF3ij0PiNTf2NEshhQJTJNNG7DttcTCQ3cBu/43NnnwElMYpck2hOlksf6DlLPkQb yW/Bj7IHJkvqP3TkSFRoouqunVIfLoUs3+XEZ1K2fQw/p0zhYaeAjMCPNGzS6urDknJHt4m5lw1XX R6+B98EZThbWTUgzRoFbLtqk7jnLLcoiZJMoKpx79aUBBs2+LN7LTDb/DyB5xBROsTMzy/TbfZ3Ej jizhcFcfw==; Received: from janus-nat-128-240-225-75.ncl.ac.uk ([128.240.225.75]:47812 helo=russet.org.uk) by cloud103.planethippo.com with esmtpsa (TLSv1.2:ECDHE-RSA-AES256-GCM-SHA384:256) (Exim 4.88) (envelope-from ) id 1clEBs-0004EL-Bl; Tue, 07 Mar 2017 12:26:08 +0000 From: phillip.lord@russet.org.uk (Phillip Lord) References: <87fuk839l7.fsf@russet.org.uk> <83tw8o3169.fsf@gnu.org> <87o9yfzk3z.fsf@russet.org.uk> <83h94772di.fsf@gnu.org> <878tp8sx4l.fsf@russet.org.uk> <87k28loo4a.fsf@russet.org.uk> <8737ex0wdh.fsf@russet.org.uk> <83tw7bn1rf.fsf@gnu.org> <83d1dxl5qj.fsf@gnu.org> <99bc74ba0694143cac8ff0e33f076a2a.squirrel@cloud103.planethippo.com> <8360jpl2jv.fsf@gnu.org> <8337etl1qj.fsf@gnu.org> <87zigymnde.fsf@russet.org.uk> <8360jmi0tj.fsf@gnu.org> <74d51970ac3619bcd58831e79d195937.squirrel@cloud103.planethippo.com> <834lz5iwzj.fsf@gnu.org> Date: Tue, 07 Mar 2017 12:26:08 +0000 In-Reply-To: <834lz5iwzj.fsf@gnu.org> (Eli Zaretskii's message of "Tue, 07 Mar 2017 05:31:12 +0200") Message-ID: <874lz5cly7.fsf@russet.org.uk> User-Agent: Gnus/5.13 (Gnus v5.13) Emacs/25.2 (gnu/linux) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain X-AntiAbuse: This header was added to track abuse, please include it with any abuse report X-AntiAbuse: Primary Hostname - cloud103.planethippo.com X-AntiAbuse: Original Domain - debbugs.gnu.org X-AntiAbuse: Originator/Caller UID/GID - [47 12] / [47 12] X-AntiAbuse: Sender Address Domain - russet.org.uk X-Get-Message-Sender-Via: cloud103.planethippo.com: authenticated_id: phillip.lord@russet.org.uk X-Authenticated-Sender: cloud103.planethippo.com: phillip.lord@russet.org.uk X-Source: X-Source-Args: X-Source-Dir: X-Spam-Score: 0.0 (/) X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18 Precedence: list List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Sender: "Debbugs-submit" X-Spam-Score: 0.0 (/) Eli Zaretskii writes: >> Date: Mon, 6 Mar 2017 21:25:54 -0000 >> From: "Phillip Lord" >> Cc: "Noam Postavsky" , >> phillip.lord@russet.org.uk, >> 25360@debbugs.gnu.org >> >> Here's a question, though. Why does files.el use >> w32-convert-standard-filename, a function which is not actually >> autoloaded? Ditto dos-convert-standard-filename. > > They are in files that are preloaded on the platforms which need them, > so they are always available. Eech, three different ways of specifying dependencies between lisp files? Ah, well, something for a different time. Phil From unknown Mon Jun 23 00:36:20 2025 X-Loop: help-debbugs@gnu.org Subject: bug#25360: File mode specification errors during building Resent-From: phillip.lord@russet.org.uk (Phillip Lord) Original-Sender: "Debbugs-submit" Resent-CC: bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org Resent-Date: Tue, 07 Mar 2017 15:29:01 +0000 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-Sender: help-debbugs@gnu.org X-GNU-PR-Message: followup 25360 X-GNU-PR-Package: emacs X-GNU-PR-Keywords: To: Eli Zaretskii Cc: 25360@debbugs.gnu.org, npostavs@users.sourceforge.net Received: via spool by 25360-submit@debbugs.gnu.org id=B25360.148890053314511 (code B ref 25360); Tue, 07 Mar 2017 15:29:01 +0000 Received: (at 25360) by debbugs.gnu.org; 7 Mar 2017 15:28:53 +0000 Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:44736 helo=debbugs.gnu.org) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1clH2j-0003lz-II for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Tue, 07 Mar 2017 10:28:53 -0500 Received: from cloud103.planethippo.com ([78.129.138.110]:36924) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1clH2i-0003ln-1g for 25360@debbugs.gnu.org; Tue, 07 Mar 2017 10:28:52 -0500 DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; q=dns/txt; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=russet.org.uk; s=default; h=Content-Type:MIME-Version:Message-ID: In-Reply-To:Date:References:Subject:Cc:To:From:Sender:Reply-To: Content-Transfer-Encoding:Content-ID:Content-Description:Resent-Date: Resent-From:Resent-Sender:Resent-To:Resent-Cc:Resent-Message-ID:List-Id: List-Help:List-Unsubscribe:List-Subscribe:List-Post:List-Owner:List-Archive; bh=dO71vnfMI1V2Y7x5m2hu0+bCJY4HPFqqNZkjJt1JNw4=; b=ipYxhXEwA5jf7NFI/5EMxn8Sh W2GHTm21SaH1wgQU8mwEDTe91ltbyKw4KfXBJiT6bY6Ld7BzeFP5Z4LKrB3rm9tMj+bNdux7/XNC8 kIme8HZyyaXzRFY16lHpQBmODnrTMoUuCizMgPuMgSoGnDR+7mLaOSvtglkOIc89DQVSJ1aTMAQID 9YA7lNzoJFYZ1ZGSTOBIrtIx+8I/rf9I3KER7nQNLA/nmtHuQBbBp4mFLc8sABQiK3Hs2lH5L5OwO 4vCJ/X9/o40Bhk4SqLMXQ08gQKvohIEd+4H8nKk8y2rBOIuC1kfnZiqCbz4t2zHJNOLGRq0D+ZqqO Kh+6u0PTw==; Received: from janus-nat-128-240-225-75.ncl.ac.uk ([128.240.225.75]:52609 helo=russet.org.uk) by cloud103.planethippo.com with esmtpsa (TLSv1.2:ECDHE-RSA-AES256-GCM-SHA384:256) (Exim 4.88) (envelope-from ) id 1clH2b-0001vg-1C; Tue, 07 Mar 2017 15:28:45 +0000 From: phillip.lord@russet.org.uk (Phillip Lord) References: <83tw8o3169.fsf@gnu.org> <87o9yfzk3z.fsf@russet.org.uk> <83h94772di.fsf@gnu.org> <878tp8sx4l.fsf@russet.org.uk> <87k28loo4a.fsf@russet.org.uk> <8737ex0wdh.fsf@russet.org.uk> <83tw7bn1rf.fsf@gnu.org> <83d1dxl5qj.fsf@gnu.org> <99bc74ba0694143cac8ff0e33f076a2a.squirrel@cloud103.planethippo.com> <8360jpl2jv.fsf@gnu.org> <8337etl1qj.fsf@gnu.org> <87zigymnde.fsf@russet.org.uk> <8360jmi0tj.fsf@gnu.org> <74d51970ac3619bcd58831e79d195937.squirrel@cloud103.planethippo.com> <834lz5iwzj.fsf@gnu.org> <874lz5cly7.fsf@russet.org.uk> Date: Tue, 07 Mar 2017 15:28:44 +0000 In-Reply-To: <874lz5cly7.fsf@russet.org.uk> (Phillip Lord's message of "Tue, 07 Mar 2017 12:26:08 +0000") Message-ID: <87shmp3y37.fsf@russet.org.uk> User-Agent: Gnus/5.13 (Gnus v5.13) Emacs/25.2 (gnu/linux) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain X-AntiAbuse: This header was added to track abuse, please include it with any abuse report X-AntiAbuse: Primary Hostname - cloud103.planethippo.com X-AntiAbuse: Original Domain - debbugs.gnu.org X-AntiAbuse: Originator/Caller UID/GID - [47 12] / [47 12] X-AntiAbuse: Sender Address Domain - russet.org.uk X-Get-Message-Sender-Via: cloud103.planethippo.com: authenticated_id: phillip.lord@russet.org.uk X-Authenticated-Sender: cloud103.planethippo.com: phillip.lord@russet.org.uk X-Source: X-Source-Args: X-Source-Dir: X-Spam-Score: 0.0 (/) X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18 Precedence: list List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Sender: "Debbugs-submit" X-Spam-Score: 0.0 (/) phillip.lord@russet.org.uk (Phillip Lord) writes: > Eli Zaretskii writes: > >>> Date: Mon, 6 Mar 2017 21:25:54 -0000 >>> From: "Phillip Lord" >>> Cc: "Noam Postavsky" , >>> phillip.lord@russet.org.uk, >>> 25360@debbugs.gnu.org >>> >>> Here's a question, though. Why does files.el use >>> w32-convert-standard-filename, a function which is not actually >>> autoloaded? Ditto dos-convert-standard-filename. >> >> They are in files that are preloaded on the platforms which need them, >> so they are always available. > > > Eech, three different ways of specifying dependencies between lisp > files? Ah, well, something for a different time. I have reverted these changes on master now. I had to redo the reversions in a different order to get a clean rebase against master, which means its not quite the same thing. I can't test this build against windows until later in the evening; it did build fine before I reordered things, so I thought it reasonable to commit. Phil From unknown Mon Jun 23 00:36:20 2025 X-Loop: help-debbugs@gnu.org Subject: bug#25360: File mode specification errors during building Resent-From: Eli Zaretskii Original-Sender: "Debbugs-submit" Resent-CC: bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org Resent-Date: Tue, 07 Mar 2017 15:52:01 +0000 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-Sender: help-debbugs@gnu.org X-GNU-PR-Message: followup 25360 X-GNU-PR-Package: emacs X-GNU-PR-Keywords: To: phillip.lord@russet.org.uk (Phillip Lord) Cc: 25360@debbugs.gnu.org, npostavs@users.sourceforge.net Reply-To: Eli Zaretskii Received: via spool by 25360-submit@debbugs.gnu.org id=B25360.148890191216712 (code B ref 25360); Tue, 07 Mar 2017 15:52:01 +0000 Received: (at 25360) by debbugs.gnu.org; 7 Mar 2017 15:51:52 +0000 Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:44756 helo=debbugs.gnu.org) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1clHOy-0004LU-CC for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Tue, 07 Mar 2017 10:51:52 -0500 Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([208.118.235.92]:55249) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1clHOw-0004LG-Se for 25360@debbugs.gnu.org; Tue, 07 Mar 2017 10:51:51 -0500 Received: from Debian-exim by eggs.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1clHOo-00069a-E9 for 25360@debbugs.gnu.org; Tue, 07 Mar 2017 10:51:45 -0500 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.3.2 (2011-06-06) on eggs.gnu.org X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-0.0 required=5.0 tests=BAYES_40,RP_MATCHES_RCVD autolearn=disabled version=3.3.2 Received: from fencepost.gnu.org ([2001:4830:134:3::e]:38917) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1clHOo-00069S-AC; Tue, 07 Mar 2017 10:51:42 -0500 Received: from 84.94.185.246.cable.012.net.il ([84.94.185.246]:4025 helo=home-c4e4a596f7) by fencepost.gnu.org with esmtpsa (TLS1.2:RSA_AES_256_CBC_SHA1:256) (Exim 4.82) (envelope-from ) id 1clHOn-0008EE-E7; Tue, 07 Mar 2017 10:51:41 -0500 Date: Tue, 07 Mar 2017 17:51:14 +0200 Message-Id: <83varlgk5p.fsf@gnu.org> From: Eli Zaretskii In-reply-to: <874lz5cly7.fsf@russet.org.uk> (phillip.lord@russet.org.uk) References: <87fuk839l7.fsf@russet.org.uk> <83tw8o3169.fsf@gnu.org> <87o9yfzk3z.fsf@russet.org.uk> <83h94772di.fsf@gnu.org> <878tp8sx4l.fsf@russet.org.uk> <87k28loo4a.fsf@russet.org.uk> <8737ex0wdh.fsf@russet.org.uk> <83tw7bn1rf.fsf@gnu.org> <83d1dxl5qj.fsf@gnu.org> <99bc74ba0694143cac8ff0e33f076a2a.squirrel@cloud103.planethippo.com> <8360jpl2jv.fsf@gnu.org> <8337etl1qj.fsf@gnu.org> <87zigymnde.fsf@russet.org.uk> <8360jmi0tj.fsf@gnu.org> <74d51970ac3619bcd58831e79d195937.squirrel@cloud103.planethippo.com> <834lz5iwzj.fsf@gnu.org> <874lz5cly7.fsf@russet.org.uk> X-detected-operating-system: by eggs.gnu.org: GNU/Linux 2.2.x-3.x [generic] X-Received-From: 2001:4830:134:3::e X-Spam-Score: -5.0 (-----) X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18 Precedence: list List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Sender: "Debbugs-submit" X-Spam-Score: -5.0 (-----) > From: phillip.lord@russet.org.uk (Phillip Lord) > Cc: npostavs@users.sourceforge.net, 25360@debbugs.gnu.org > Date: Tue, 07 Mar 2017 12:26:08 +0000 > > Eli Zaretskii writes: > > >> Date: Mon, 6 Mar 2017 21:25:54 -0000 > >> From: "Phillip Lord" > >> Cc: "Noam Postavsky" , > >> phillip.lord@russet.org.uk, > >> 25360@debbugs.gnu.org > >> > >> Here's a question, though. Why does files.el use > >> w32-convert-standard-filename, a function which is not actually > >> autoloaded? Ditto dos-convert-standard-filename. > > > > They are in files that are preloaded on the platforms which need them, > > so they are always available. > > > Eech, three different ways of specifying dependencies between lisp > files? Ah, well, something for a different time. It's not a dependency. Emacs is full of code that doesn't bother to auto-load functions which are known to be preloaded. We preload Lisp packages for several decades, and that's got to leave its impression on the code which uses those packages. bootstrap-emacs is not supposed to be different from emacs in that regard, with a single exception: the Lisp packages it preloads might be uncompiled, i.e. will work slower. But it should have all the same packages that emacs has. From unknown Mon Jun 23 00:36:20 2025 X-Loop: help-debbugs@gnu.org Subject: bug#25360: File mode specification errors during building Resent-From: Eli Zaretskii Original-Sender: "Debbugs-submit" Resent-CC: bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org Resent-Date: Tue, 07 Mar 2017 16:02:02 +0000 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-Sender: help-debbugs@gnu.org X-GNU-PR-Message: followup 25360 X-GNU-PR-Package: emacs X-GNU-PR-Keywords: To: phillip.lord@russet.org.uk (Phillip Lord) Cc: 25360@debbugs.gnu.org, npostavs@users.sourceforge.net Reply-To: Eli Zaretskii Received: via spool by 25360-submit@debbugs.gnu.org id=B25360.148890252017699 (code B ref 25360); Tue, 07 Mar 2017 16:02:02 +0000 Received: (at 25360) by debbugs.gnu.org; 7 Mar 2017 16:02:00 +0000 Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:44770 helo=debbugs.gnu.org) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1clHYl-0004bP-Rt for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Tue, 07 Mar 2017 11:02:00 -0500 Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([208.118.235.92]:58770) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1clHYk-0004bC-3Q for 25360@debbugs.gnu.org; Tue, 07 Mar 2017 11:01:58 -0500 Received: from Debian-exim by eggs.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1clHYZ-0000os-3C for 25360@debbugs.gnu.org; Tue, 07 Mar 2017 11:01:52 -0500 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.3.2 (2011-06-06) on eggs.gnu.org X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=0.8 required=5.0 tests=BAYES_50,RP_MATCHES_RCVD autolearn=disabled version=3.3.2 Received: from fencepost.gnu.org ([2001:4830:134:3::e]:39059) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1clHYZ-0000oo-0d; Tue, 07 Mar 2017 11:01:47 -0500 Received: from 84.94.185.246.cable.012.net.il ([84.94.185.246]:4038 helo=home-c4e4a596f7) by fencepost.gnu.org with esmtpsa (TLS1.2:RSA_AES_256_CBC_SHA1:256) (Exim 4.82) (envelope-from ) id 1clHYY-0007QD-EO; Tue, 07 Mar 2017 11:01:46 -0500 Date: Tue, 07 Mar 2017 18:01:18 +0200 Message-Id: <83shmpgjox.fsf@gnu.org> From: Eli Zaretskii In-reply-to: <87shmp3y37.fsf@russet.org.uk> (phillip.lord@russet.org.uk) References: <83tw8o3169.fsf@gnu.org> <87o9yfzk3z.fsf@russet.org.uk> <83h94772di.fsf@gnu.org> <878tp8sx4l.fsf@russet.org.uk> <87k28loo4a.fsf@russet.org.uk> <8737ex0wdh.fsf@russet.org.uk> <83tw7bn1rf.fsf@gnu.org> <83d1dxl5qj.fsf@gnu.org> <99bc74ba0694143cac8ff0e33f076a2a.squirrel@cloud103.planethippo.com> <8360jpl2jv.fsf@gnu.org> <8337etl1qj.fsf@gnu.org> <87zigymnde.fsf@russet.org.uk> <8360jmi0tj.fsf@gnu.org> <74d51970ac3619bcd58831e79d195937.squirrel@cloud103.planethippo.com> <834lz5iwzj.fsf@gnu.org> <874lz5cly7.fsf@russet.org.uk> <87shmp3y37.fsf@russet.org.uk> X-detected-operating-system: by eggs.gnu.org: GNU/Linux 2.2.x-3.x [generic] X-Received-From: 2001:4830:134:3::e X-Spam-Score: -5.0 (-----) X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18 Precedence: list List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Sender: "Debbugs-submit" X-Spam-Score: -5.0 (-----) > From: phillip.lord@russet.org.uk (Phillip Lord) > Cc: npostavs@users.sourceforge.net, 25360@debbugs.gnu.org > Date: Tue, 07 Mar 2017 15:28:44 +0000 > > I have reverted these changes on master now. I had to redo the > reversions in a different order to get a clean rebase against master, > which means its not quite the same thing. Thanks. > I can't test this build against windows until later in the evening; it > did build fine before I reordered things, so I thought it reasonable to > commit. It builds OK for me on Windows, although I didn't (and won't) try bootstrapping any time soon. Thank you for your work on this, Phillip. From unknown Mon Jun 23 00:36:20 2025 X-Loop: help-debbugs@gnu.org Subject: bug#25360: File mode specification errors during building Resent-From: Noam Postavsky Original-Sender: "Debbugs-submit" Resent-CC: bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org Resent-Date: Tue, 07 Mar 2017 18:26:01 +0000 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-Sender: help-debbugs@gnu.org X-GNU-PR-Message: followup 25360 X-GNU-PR-Package: emacs X-GNU-PR-Keywords: To: Eli Zaretskii Cc: 25360@debbugs.gnu.org, Phillip Lord Received: via spool by 25360-submit@debbugs.gnu.org id=B25360.14889111226376 (code B ref 25360); Tue, 07 Mar 2017 18:26:01 +0000 Received: (at 25360) by debbugs.gnu.org; 7 Mar 2017 18:25:22 +0000 Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:44952 helo=debbugs.gnu.org) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1clJnW-0001em-Hs for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Tue, 07 Mar 2017 13:25:22 -0500 Received: from mail-ot0-f172.google.com ([74.125.82.172]:35002) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1clJnU-0001eU-T2 for 25360@debbugs.gnu.org; Tue, 07 Mar 2017 13:25:21 -0500 Received: by mail-ot0-f172.google.com with SMTP id x37so12509552ota.2 for <25360@debbugs.gnu.org>; Tue, 07 Mar 2017 10:25:20 -0800 (PST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20161025; h=mime-version:sender:in-reply-to:references:from:date:message-id :subject:to:cc; bh=uNS9ZfNHZPYjMpuM/3qrvdnasNJEaWADKTfiPN/QQWk=; b=lBQHLcrrztAbJ/TvfHEdDaBZSFfybqPRQ/jyoGlsVY9iAbTY9uVvFl8kW1+o0IBFHj zdumnLsJpnXt5U6Nwc5H7mjjNLC3T64U0VW9gYylfMd3X72xY5N0DrQmHXBl/ZvkU6fv X0BsraFe3BwfQDXE+jt0+PHr6RX0Zz7vQo5tBe/Et/bg70NiIYjEzrcP/fJtvAQ40y+B DQrSMjDVNA9Z/UOZzJY0fjUwi2k7XmlTEtUAMOHqKj3Y+GL/C9jzhg4VjA8LgaUUbFsN QW45SVzWyCjdN4k0YtCTC8FrFZmVvk5yco4PwNuRN8Fmir5l4yHY0zscjwkU46e5hqS6 OPPA== X-Google-DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=1e100.net; s=20161025; h=x-gm-message-state:mime-version:sender:in-reply-to:references:from :date:message-id:subject:to:cc; bh=uNS9ZfNHZPYjMpuM/3qrvdnasNJEaWADKTfiPN/QQWk=; b=UuS5JMVqirhJbtkp8cVVcgTKBSQvyP7A21cFJJ9BdWkPkf3oq1VRA/GUqjEjlGXHCB 4z0XZFu9c5Ghq6RV1VgzLOnZLzJcgN1uvoNIscAPZmboGiXHQ1alxJWSz5riaifE/EwL hXNqPF+9CrL50/gTRSBPxWIYIEW6DUW8HvDIi2lsyKpoXSiif5GPkETYFajDSj4+bKqs 8hStKQxrwvWLxD+7qUYMuEeopOAYodtIw5Q6R5zVduQW6O1eRI+jInLr0rgWeeF77pzG 0D/m3O3nnacIyj4V9N6pP21FYilit3kFHDb22khgoEcvy3lzpl+d+SL9BeV7+3X7FL71 xmvA== X-Gm-Message-State: AFeK/H0dwExUII3kvmy5R5ef/3PUrixGu/ALdrxNth2evY8X4ZmO/MGa5NuDukdmCI8BunViHcc6eQbDZ9q9CA== X-Received: by 10.157.68.163 with SMTP id v35mr967583ote.55.1488911115178; Tue, 07 Mar 2017 10:25:15 -0800 (PST) MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.157.80.172 with HTTP; Tue, 7 Mar 2017 10:25:14 -0800 (PST) In-Reply-To: <83shmpgjox.fsf@gnu.org> References: <83tw8o3169.fsf@gnu.org> <87o9yfzk3z.fsf@russet.org.uk> <83h94772di.fsf@gnu.org> <878tp8sx4l.fsf@russet.org.uk> <87k28loo4a.fsf@russet.org.uk> <8737ex0wdh.fsf@russet.org.uk> <83tw7bn1rf.fsf@gnu.org> <83d1dxl5qj.fsf@gnu.org> <99bc74ba0694143cac8ff0e33f076a2a.squirrel@cloud103.planethippo.com> <8360jpl2jv.fsf@gnu.org> <8337etl1qj.fsf@gnu.org> <87zigymnde.fsf@russet.org.uk> <8360jmi0tj.fsf@gnu.org> <74d51970ac3619bcd58831e79d195937.squirrel@cloud103.planethippo.com> <834lz5iwzj.fsf@gnu.org> <874lz5cly7.fsf@russet.org.uk> <87shmp3y37.fsf@russet.org.uk> <83shmpgjox.fsf@gnu.org> From: Noam Postavsky Date: Tue, 7 Mar 2017 13:25:14 -0500 X-Google-Sender-Auth: T4w3fp9Ml3cnF300TqymBXA86yw Message-ID: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 X-Spam-Score: 0.7 (/) X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18 Precedence: list List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Sender: "Debbugs-submit" X-Spam-Score: 0.7 (/) On Tue, Mar 7, 2017 at 11:01 AM, Eli Zaretskii wrote: > >> I can't test this build against windows until later in the evening; it >> did build fine before I reordered things, so I thought it reasonable to >> commit. > > It builds OK for me on Windows, although I didn't (and won't) try > bootstrapping any time soon. > A bootstrap succeeded here (Windows 10, msys2, 64bit, out-of-tree). From unknown Mon Jun 23 00:36:20 2025 X-Loop: help-debbugs@gnu.org Subject: bug#25360: File mode specification errors during building Resent-From: "Phillip Lord" Original-Sender: "Debbugs-submit" Resent-CC: bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org Resent-Date: Tue, 07 Mar 2017 19:36:01 +0000 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-Sender: help-debbugs@gnu.org X-GNU-PR-Message: followup 25360 X-GNU-PR-Package: emacs X-GNU-PR-Keywords: To: "Noam Postavsky" Cc: Eli Zaretskii , 25360@debbugs.gnu.org, Phillip Lord Received: via spool by 25360-submit@debbugs.gnu.org id=B25360.148891534213303 (code B ref 25360); Tue, 07 Mar 2017 19:36:01 +0000 Received: (at 25360) by debbugs.gnu.org; 7 Mar 2017 19:35:42 +0000 Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:45008 helo=debbugs.gnu.org) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1clKtZ-0003SV-M8 for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Tue, 07 Mar 2017 14:35:41 -0500 Received: from cloud103.planethippo.com ([78.129.138.110]:37020) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1clKtX-0003SF-RM for 25360@debbugs.gnu.org; Tue, 07 Mar 2017 14:35:40 -0500 DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; q=dns/txt; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=russet.org.uk; s=default; h=Content-Transfer-Encoding:Content-Type: MIME-Version:Cc:To:From:Subject:Date:References:In-Reply-To:Message-ID:Sender :Reply-To:Content-ID:Content-Description:Resent-Date:Resent-From: Resent-Sender:Resent-To:Resent-Cc:Resent-Message-ID:List-Id:List-Help: List-Unsubscribe:List-Subscribe:List-Post:List-Owner:List-Archive; bh=Bv3I3BxenExJiHUGwV8NrZ6WxVoQ8zSTi0SKB8MJYVs=; b=Fy9qGdwxcPJVB9V2fhqjNUCSbb zC6vIQiLo2C7jqnUsnbCsoZ7jOdVUVIv/1+hC9+g+tIas6KjUMcx+fi824L3zwEIgkYSdQO4dg/MU eyTDkA+JKIDDhGE9La4Th8rZdzjKHMyVW/Ia7fyKXYD7g7yVOH6Q1HqxqlyvOxilSG9CtchKoDuy2 Kn3psl5lLLyxnqimD0yo3UreekOe1GO5MDFjIvwq9ZrVLUgp3BYe2LPzL1zftp/ejpMBUNXsWv6KH Hn2bvl6C/jhR8uyckb45GVZ4w9jhqr499JOh/7g7TXJssrsrmm5JjnKrzGYYeWfxlGShVzl11nsu5 vFPUGh1g==; Received: from [127.0.0.1] (port=52620 helo=cloud103.planethippo.com) by cloud103.planethippo.com with esmtpa (Exim 4.88) (envelope-from ) id 1clKtR-0003l1-MU; Tue, 07 Mar 2017 19:35:33 +0000 Received: from 92.238.179.168 ([92.238.179.168]) (SquirrelMail authenticated user phillip.lord@russet.org.uk) by cloud103.planethippo.com with HTTP; Tue, 7 Mar 2017 19:35:33 -0000 Message-ID: In-Reply-To: References: <83tw8o3169.fsf@gnu.org> <87o9yfzk3z.fsf@russet.org.uk> <83h94772di.fsf@gnu.org> <878tp8sx4l.fsf@russet.org.uk> <87k28loo4a.fsf@russet.org.uk> <8737ex0wdh.fsf@russet.org.uk> <83tw7bn1rf.fsf@gnu.org> <83d1dxl5qj.fsf@gnu.org> <99bc74ba0694143cac8ff0e33f076a2a.squirrel@cloud103.planethippo.com> <8360jpl2jv.fsf@gnu.org> <8337etl1qj.fsf@gnu.org> <87zigymnde.fsf@russet.org.uk> <8360jmi0tj.fsf@gnu.org> <74d51970ac3619bcd58831e79d195937.squirrel@cloud103.planethippo.com> <834lz5iwzj.fsf@gnu.org> <874lz5cly7.fsf@russet.org.uk> <87shmp3y37.fsf@russet.org.uk> <83shmpgjox.fsf@gnu.org> Date: Tue, 7 Mar 2017 19:35:33 -0000 From: "Phillip Lord" User-Agent: SquirrelMail/1.5.2 [SVN] MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain;charset=utf-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-AntiAbuse: This header was added to track abuse, please include it with any abuse report X-AntiAbuse: Primary Hostname - cloud103.planethippo.com X-AntiAbuse: Original Domain - debbugs.gnu.org X-AntiAbuse: Originator/Caller UID/GID - [47 12] / [47 12] X-AntiAbuse: Sender Address Domain - russet.org.uk X-Get-Message-Sender-Via: cloud103.planethippo.com: authenticated_id: phillip.lord@russet.org.uk X-Authenticated-Sender: cloud103.planethippo.com: phillip.lord@russet.org.uk X-Source: X-Source-Args: X-Source-Dir: X-Spam-Score: 0.0 (/) X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18 Precedence: list List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Sender: "Debbugs-submit" X-Spam-Score: 0.0 (/) On Tue, March 7, 2017 6:25 pm, Noam Postavsky wrote: > On Tue, Mar 7, 2017 at 11:01 AM, Eli Zaretskii wrote: > >> >>> I can't test this build against windows until later in the evening; >>> it did build fine before I reordered things, so I thought it >>> reasonable to commit. >> >> It builds OK for me on Windows, although I didn't (and won't) try >> bootstrapping any time soon. >> > > A bootstrap succeeded here (Windows 10, msys2, 64bit, out-of-tree). Also for me. From unknown Mon Jun 23 00:36:20 2025 X-Loop: help-debbugs@gnu.org Subject: bug#25360: File mode specification errors during building Resent-From: phillip.lord@russet.org.uk (Phillip Lord) Original-Sender: "Debbugs-submit" Resent-CC: bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org Resent-Date: Wed, 08 Mar 2017 12:32:02 +0000 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-Sender: help-debbugs@gnu.org X-GNU-PR-Message: followup 25360 X-GNU-PR-Package: emacs X-GNU-PR-Keywords: To: Eli Zaretskii Cc: 25360@debbugs.gnu.org, npostavs@users.sourceforge.net Received: via spool by 25360-submit@debbugs.gnu.org id=B25360.148897630422275 (code B ref 25360); Wed, 08 Mar 2017 12:32:02 +0000 Received: (at 25360) by debbugs.gnu.org; 8 Mar 2017 12:31:44 +0000 Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:45444 helo=debbugs.gnu.org) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1clakp-0005mq-Up for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Wed, 08 Mar 2017 07:31:44 -0500 Received: from cloud103.planethippo.com ([78.129.138.110]:44862) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1clakn-0005fe-8E for 25360@debbugs.gnu.org; Wed, 08 Mar 2017 07:31:42 -0500 DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; q=dns/txt; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=russet.org.uk; s=default; h=Content-Type:MIME-Version:Message-ID: In-Reply-To:Date:References:Subject:Cc:To:From:Sender:Reply-To: Content-Transfer-Encoding:Content-ID:Content-Description:Resent-Date: Resent-From:Resent-Sender:Resent-To:Resent-Cc:Resent-Message-ID:List-Id: List-Help:List-Unsubscribe:List-Subscribe:List-Post:List-Owner:List-Archive; bh=6HkGbxLbMrrzcs2l2njudURc+f8lHWui+mD9a5X5EI0=; b=IR15YDz2cLfT5tjVacaA5AeeC y0w5F8tT+n2wCJlpbW3HaJUEPLIG4nsNNd3P0GLPNk1fIjup6kOgUbX2b8qxZZy0/Hsc2ExWOEKnb WZIcmzxyPbMvWBdZJIE8IdqxRnXNjqDCuSE6rT1dzUehqBRx0P3UYUzfDFrSR7aGN0373Jl5E02a4 AMEW6xfcG3gp2R1mfKrcgOmqb3/pFoITj1a3uEjiXq2yCJkpUrUPKjbmGdQsJrd4yFVYmpxPEdg5k 8NbA5n0hSVZ7qgS/gdfxvJLkTZ7ClZxfphMGZhj84iQ/qS7TaiDqvvw1Sl4VdjIjOWFJhq6hrlEDT HuxLI2aEA==; Received: from janus-nat-128-240-225-75.ncl.ac.uk ([128.240.225.75]:44227 helo=russet.org.uk) by cloud103.planethippo.com with esmtpsa (TLSv1.2:ECDHE-RSA-AES256-GCM-SHA384:256) (Exim 4.88) (envelope-from ) id 1clakg-0005iO-9I; Wed, 08 Mar 2017 12:31:34 +0000 From: phillip.lord@russet.org.uk (Phillip Lord) References: <83h94772di.fsf@gnu.org> <878tp8sx4l.fsf@russet.org.uk> <87k28loo4a.fsf@russet.org.uk> <8737ex0wdh.fsf@russet.org.uk> <83tw7bn1rf.fsf@gnu.org> <83d1dxl5qj.fsf@gnu.org> <99bc74ba0694143cac8ff0e33f076a2a.squirrel@cloud103.planethippo.com> <8360jpl2jv.fsf@gnu.org> <8337etl1qj.fsf@gnu.org> <87zigymnde.fsf@russet.org.uk> <8360jmi0tj.fsf@gnu.org> <74d51970ac3619bcd58831e79d195937.squirrel@cloud103.planethippo.com> <834lz5iwzj.fsf@gnu.org> <874lz5cly7.fsf@russet.org.uk> <87shmp3y37.fsf@russet.org.uk> <83shmpgjox.fsf@gnu.org> Date: Wed, 08 Mar 2017 12:31:34 +0000 In-Reply-To: <83shmpgjox.fsf@gnu.org> (Eli Zaretskii's message of "Tue, 07 Mar 2017 18:01:18 +0200") Message-ID: <87wpc02bmh.fsf@russet.org.uk> User-Agent: Gnus/5.13 (Gnus v5.13) Emacs/25.2 (gnu/linux) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain X-AntiAbuse: This header was added to track abuse, please include it with any abuse report X-AntiAbuse: Primary Hostname - cloud103.planethippo.com X-AntiAbuse: Original Domain - debbugs.gnu.org X-AntiAbuse: Originator/Caller UID/GID - [47 12] / [47 12] X-AntiAbuse: Sender Address Domain - russet.org.uk X-Get-Message-Sender-Via: cloud103.planethippo.com: authenticated_id: phillip.lord@russet.org.uk X-Authenticated-Sender: cloud103.planethippo.com: phillip.lord@russet.org.uk X-Source: X-Source-Args: X-Source-Dir: X-Spam-Score: 0.0 (/) X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18 Precedence: list List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Sender: "Debbugs-submit" X-Spam-Score: 0.0 (/) Eli Zaretskii writes: >> From: phillip.lord@russet.org.uk (Phillip Lord) >> Cc: npostavs@users.sourceforge.net, 25360@debbugs.gnu.org >> Date: Tue, 07 Mar 2017 15:28:44 +0000 >> >> I have reverted these changes on master now. I had to redo the >> reversions in a different order to get a clean rebase against master, >> which means its not quite the same thing. > > Thanks. > >> I can't test this build against windows until later in the evening; it >> did build fine before I reordered things, so I thought it reasonable to >> commit. > > It builds OK for me on Windows, although I didn't (and won't) try > bootstrapping any time soon. > > Thank you for your work on this, Phillip. No worries. Was hoping that this would have made Emacs better, but it doesn't, so it has to come out. I may revisit the issue after the current discussions about dumping have been completed. Phil From debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Fri Mar 10 13:08:08 2017 Received: (at control) by debbugs.gnu.org; 10 Mar 2017 18:08:08 +0000 Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:49946 helo=debbugs.gnu.org) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1cmOxU-0007No-2w for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Fri, 10 Mar 2017 13:08:08 -0500 Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([208.118.235.92]:56324) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1cmOxS-0007NL-I7 for control@debbugs.gnu.org; Fri, 10 Mar 2017 13:08:06 -0500 Received: from Debian-exim by eggs.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1cmOxM-0000Cn-J5 for control@debbugs.gnu.org; Fri, 10 Mar 2017 13:08:01 -0500 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.3.2 (2011-06-06) on eggs.gnu.org X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-1.9 required=5.0 tests=BAYES_00,RP_MATCHES_RCVD autolearn=disabled version=3.3.2 Received: from fencepost.gnu.org ([2001:4830:134:3::e]:52873) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1cmOxM-0000Cd-FE for control@debbugs.gnu.org; Fri, 10 Mar 2017 13:08:00 -0500 Received: from rgm by fencepost.gnu.org with local (Exim 4.82) (envelope-from ) id 1cmOxM-0004Vx-6D for control@debbugs.gnu.org; Fri, 10 Mar 2017 13:08:00 -0500 Subject: control message for bug 25360 To: X-Mailer: mail (GNU Mailutils 2.99.98) Message-Id: From: Glenn Morris Date: Fri, 10 Mar 2017 13:08:00 -0500 X-detected-operating-system: by eggs.gnu.org: GNU/Linux 2.2.x-3.x [generic] X-Received-From: 2001:4830:134:3::e X-Spam-Score: -5.0 (-----) X-Debbugs-Envelope-To: control X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18 Precedence: list List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Sender: "Debbugs-submit" X-Spam-Score: -5.0 (-----) # 7f5ad6b close 25360 26.0.50