From unknown Thu Jun 19 16:24:19 2025 X-Loop: help-debbugs@gnu.org Subject: bug#25248: please, include Legacy Grub in your distro Resent-From: Gennadii Kondratiev Original-Sender: "Debbugs-submit" Resent-CC: bug-guix@gnu.org Resent-Date: Thu, 22 Dec 2016 17:11:01 +0000 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-Sender: help-debbugs@gnu.org X-GNU-PR-Message: report 25248 X-GNU-PR-Package: guix X-GNU-PR-Keywords: To: 25248@debbugs.gnu.org X-Debbugs-Original-To: bug-guix@gnu.org Received: via spool by submit@debbugs.gnu.org id=B.14824266235676 (code B ref -1); Thu, 22 Dec 2016 17:11:01 +0000 Received: (at submit) by debbugs.gnu.org; 22 Dec 2016 17:10:23 +0000 Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:51767 helo=debbugs.gnu.org) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1cK6sp-0001TU-1U for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Thu, 22 Dec 2016 12:10:23 -0500 Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([208.118.235.92]:53415) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1cK5kF-00082a-4d for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Thu, 22 Dec 2016 10:57:27 -0500 Received: from Debian-exim by eggs.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1cK5k9-00032j-90 for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Thu, 22 Dec 2016 10:57:22 -0500 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.3.2 (2011-06-06) on eggs.gnu.org X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=0.8 required=5.0 tests=BAYES_50,FREEMAIL_FROM, HTML_MESSAGE,T_DKIM_INVALID autolearn=disabled version=3.3.2 Received: from lists.gnu.org ([2001:4830:134:3::11]:37624) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS1.0:RSA_AES_256_CBC_SHA1:32) (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1cK5k9-00032b-5e for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Thu, 22 Dec 2016 10:57:21 -0500 Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([2001:4830:134:3::10]:44386) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1cK5k7-00050j-UJ for bug-guix@gnu.org; Thu, 22 Dec 2016 10:57:20 -0500 Received: from Debian-exim by eggs.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1cK5k7-00032F-8n for bug-guix@gnu.org; Thu, 22 Dec 2016 10:57:20 -0500 Received: from mail-oi0-x234.google.com ([2607:f8b0:4003:c06::234]:34685) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS1.0:RSA_AES_128_CBC_SHA1:16) (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1cK5k7-000320-3f for bug-guix@gnu.org; Thu, 22 Dec 2016 10:57:19 -0500 Received: by mail-oi0-x234.google.com with SMTP id 3so63041266oih.1 for ; Thu, 22 Dec 2016 07:57:18 -0800 (PST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20161025; h=mime-version:from:date:message-id:subject:to; bh=j8JzwlbufyOzxBVtcVELF1mgF0qKbV0tF25siIIBRI0=; b=LTQz6jckDaISk/pFqlJt1hUo3MWkvnaJsaeazaC1qFU4uliV+xF6RxNHIqiXzAUI1o bAq1rE77fMgjtsu9YQk3rs3gVMkJHjybb11WBzdRvYBWzZy2vulqL3mf1m4uaYvt0cmZ ArH/5lYzZYkL8rwLlSuBMlxYPNgLJcjpbTMMR9NtYr9jdT1mkNxvcXA29jy3PXH+18Tv CqBF1RSWcfyZF0LOQdMEw+TRcYj70/y0Hgr8+6aJY31lbnqajidjv7Tme9QD17XJv0aj PQt6tYmj1kkoUsH+UmjQ+g2ef6jzvQwQOtAnqWlAXjG3EIMGvAOGUpru0PL81ZifzvbQ cZdQ== X-Google-DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=1e100.net; s=20161025; h=x-gm-message-state:mime-version:from:date:message-id:subject:to; bh=j8JzwlbufyOzxBVtcVELF1mgF0qKbV0tF25siIIBRI0=; b=JdfRmAOgxiAos/KHMKawbJYUc4t1slzBQk79NVuum6x5n/36D9YA27HsZ2+4Van+z2 iu4jdpSPrS/mulfpPntUErPYpe4Kno3gyUfMu4A+S7aOZ4sTKKEb5lUy5+9Y9z4iIxJk 6sPp1lQ4rKaMebnM62O0A+D98VMHXxqFnZsqfyno9sTDyNrNDWorBs2vyztKRI3yBLq7 JH/9Ur2ltHmH5YUWgYq/M/duFkbvKtpLsuom80EFnhLMbaeS+4ltQ3WnQDPm592GtSSf lxwzkTE7EfmgwNFJEYuyRTXm5q9shmK4EAMPyQ7HJG9QmbHe11lL2kcHOCEFQ0SRQDuR s+tg== X-Gm-Message-State: AIkVDXIj+5bx4JCDv6I6/lFBcmTwVrE1QgMNu/TTRzZWLYSjTzlOKdt5BL+xUMA6D2gdM8HNsEEYdTB0RwEgKg== X-Received: by 10.157.35.35 with SMTP id j32mr4290401otb.90.1482422237751; Thu, 22 Dec 2016 07:57:17 -0800 (PST) MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.74.139.116 with HTTP; Thu, 22 Dec 2016 07:57:17 -0800 (PST) From: Gennadii Kondratiev Date: Thu, 22 Dec 2016 18:57:17 +0300 Message-ID: Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=001a113db210e36c0f05444152f9 X-detected-operating-system: by eggs.gnu.org: GNU/Linux 2.2.x-3.x [generic] X-detected-operating-system: by eggs.gnu.org: GNU/Linux 2.6.x X-Received-From: 2001:4830:134:3::11 X-Spam-Score: -4.0 (----) X-Mailman-Approved-At: Thu, 22 Dec 2016 12:10:22 -0500 X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18 Precedence: list List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Sender: "Debbugs-submit" X-Spam-Score: -4.0 (----) --001a113db210e36c0f05444152f9 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Hello! May I ask you and everybody in GNU organization to again include Legacy Grub as a normal package in GuixSD and in everything? The reason is that it is just terrible to install the system and after not to have access to it or invent something how to boot it. Grub2 is invalide. For what anybody does need such an entity which cannot install itself on a arbitrary prtition? Of course, people use different operating systems, which are on different partitions. I always install grub on the root partition. But Grub2 does not work, because you specially cut its ability. In Nix Grub2 does not work too, but they have Grub1, which is installable anywhere without any complications. If you are afraid that people will blame you when they spoil their computers, you, please, write a warning, that you should use Grub2, etc. !!!Please, include Legacy Grub in GuixSD!!! Thank you! Gennadii. --001a113db210e36c0f05444152f9 Content-Type: text/html; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
Hello!

May I as= k you and everybody in GNU organization to again include Legacy Grub as a n= ormal package in GuixSD and in everything? The reason is that it is just te= rrible to install the system and after not to have access to it or invent s= omething how to boot it. Grub2 is invalide. For what anybody does need such= an entity which cannot install itself on a arbitrary prtition?=C2=A0 Of co= urse, people use different operating systems, which are on different partit= ions. I always install grub on the root partition. But Grub2 does not work,= because you specially cut its ability.

In Nix Grub2 does not= work too, but they have Grub1, which is installable anywhere without any c= omplications.

If you are afraid that people will blame you whe= n they spoil their computers, you, please, write a warning, that you should= use Grub2, etc.

!!!Please, include Legacy Grub in GuixSD!!!
Thank you!

Gennadii.

--001a113db210e36c0f05444152f9-- From unknown Thu Jun 19 16:24:19 2025 X-Loop: help-debbugs@gnu.org Subject: bug#25248: please, include Legacy Grub in your distro Resent-From: ludo@gnu.org (Ludovic =?UTF-8?Q?Court=C3=A8s?=) Original-Sender: "Debbugs-submit" Resent-CC: bug-guix@gnu.org Resent-Date: Thu, 29 Dec 2016 21:59:01 +0000 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-Sender: help-debbugs@gnu.org X-GNU-PR-Message: followup 25248 X-GNU-PR-Package: guix X-GNU-PR-Keywords: To: Gennadii Kondratiev Cc: 25248@debbugs.gnu.org Received: via spool by 25248-submit@debbugs.gnu.org id=B25248.148304869730080 (code B ref 25248); Thu, 29 Dec 2016 21:59:01 +0000 Received: (at 25248) by debbugs.gnu.org; 29 Dec 2016 21:58:17 +0000 Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:59452 helo=debbugs.gnu.org) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1cMiiG-0007p6-Li for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Thu, 29 Dec 2016 16:58:16 -0500 Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([208.118.235.92]:55522) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1cMiiF-0007ou-8g for 25248@debbugs.gnu.org; Thu, 29 Dec 2016 16:58:15 -0500 Received: from Debian-exim by eggs.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1cMii7-00009W-0a for 25248@debbugs.gnu.org; Thu, 29 Dec 2016 16:58:10 -0500 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.3.2 (2011-06-06) on eggs.gnu.org X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-2.4 required=5.0 tests=BAYES_50,RP_MATCHES_RCVD autolearn=disabled version=3.3.2 Received: from fencepost.gnu.org ([2001:4830:134:3::e]:59624) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1cMii6-00009M-TK; Thu, 29 Dec 2016 16:58:06 -0500 Received: from reverse-83.fdn.fr ([80.67.176.83]:51584 helo=pluto) by fencepost.gnu.org with esmtpsa (TLS1.2:RSA_AES_256_CBC_SHA1:256) (Exim 4.82) (envelope-from ) id 1cMii6-0003sJ-AA; Thu, 29 Dec 2016 16:58:06 -0500 From: ludo@gnu.org (Ludovic =?UTF-8?Q?Court=C3=A8s?=) References: X-URL: http://www.fdn.fr/~lcourtes/ X-Revolutionary-Date: 9 =?UTF-8?Q?Niv=C3=B4se?= an 225 de la =?UTF-8?Q?R=C3=A9volution?= X-PGP-Key-ID: 0x090B11993D9AEBB5 X-PGP-Key: http://www.fdn.fr/~lcourtes/ludovic.asc X-PGP-Fingerprint: 3CE4 6455 8A84 FDC6 9DB4 0CFB 090B 1199 3D9A EBB5 X-OS: x86_64-unknown-linux-gnu Date: Thu, 29 Dec 2016 22:58:04 +0100 In-Reply-To: (Gennadii Kondratiev's message of "Thu, 22 Dec 2016 18:57:17 +0300") Message-ID: <87pokae6tv.fsf@gnu.org> User-Agent: Gnus/5.13 (Gnus v5.13) Emacs/25.1 (gnu/linux) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-detected-operating-system: by eggs.gnu.org: GNU/Linux 2.2.x-3.x [generic] X-Received-From: 2001:4830:134:3::e X-Spam-Score: -8.2 (--------) X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18 Precedence: list List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Sender: "Debbugs-submit" X-Spam-Score: -8.2 (--------) Hello! Gennadii Kondratiev skribis: > May I ask you and everybody in GNU organization to again include Legacy > Grub as a normal package in GuixSD and in everything? The reason is that = it > is just terrible to install the system and after not to have access to it > or invent something how to boot it. Grub2 is invalide. For what anybody > does need such an entity which cannot install itself on a arbitrary > prtition? Of course, people use different operating systems, which are on > different partitions. I always install grub on the root partition. But > Grub2 does not work, because you specially cut its ability. Could you explain how you installed GuixSD and what exactly goes wrong with GRUB (error messages, etc.)? > !!!Please, include Legacy Grub in GuixSD!!! GRUB 1.x is unmaintained AFAIK, and it=E2=80=99s incompatible and has a red= uced feature set. It=E2=80=99s unlikely that we=E2=80=99ll add it to GuixSD. However, if you have troubles with GuixSD and GRUB 2.x, then we should certainly fix them, either in GuixSD or in GRUB! Thanks, Ludo=E2=80=99. From unknown Thu Jun 19 16:24:19 2025 X-Loop: help-debbugs@gnu.org Subject: bug#25248: Merry Christmas and Happy New Year! GRUB1 and GRUB2 References: In-Reply-To: Resent-From: Gennadii Kondratiev Original-Sender: "Debbugs-submit" Resent-CC: bug-guix@gnu.org Resent-Date: Fri, 30 Dec 2016 17:52:02 +0000 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-Sender: help-debbugs@gnu.org X-GNU-PR-Message: followup 25248 X-GNU-PR-Package: guix X-GNU-PR-Keywords: To: 25248@debbugs.gnu.org Received: via spool by 25248-submit@debbugs.gnu.org id=B25248.148312031323449 (code B ref 25248); Fri, 30 Dec 2016 17:52:02 +0000 Received: (at 25248) by debbugs.gnu.org; 30 Dec 2016 17:51:53 +0000 Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:60575 helo=debbugs.gnu.org) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1cN1LM-000668-Gy for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Fri, 30 Dec 2016 12:51:52 -0500 Received: from mail-oi0-f54.google.com ([209.85.218.54]:33791) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1cN0qn-0005No-KL for 25248@debbugs.gnu.org; Fri, 30 Dec 2016 12:20:18 -0500 Received: by mail-oi0-f54.google.com with SMTP id 128so233534959oig.0 for <25248@debbugs.gnu.org>; Fri, 30 Dec 2016 09:20:17 -0800 (PST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20161025; h=mime-version:from:date:message-id:subject:to; bh=0iIX/21TNnC9RrhPiI4LtCuOKRoR8sPdwVDzUvqGZ9E=; b=sRFQLkP5XshwiQWppLXodyY9i6NVs0CBPhGjUUQlr6o2U7CL73zzyH88ZK4j1VG/st HOW0OmibjhkQ8it9SkSeicl96KXfyI9mNfaX6TV+LSG+nWSYaHDERqyxi1jdWB9j1CAL BjI9TkzcbPtfH9uKqzmjlu0FVMQrDXf7GjjyBFORe6t5NPjQ9lt46UoYF7/eaRiYa74Y YYdw+K95QeXjgXmEVnqvAmdngqpw/11FtyGjNKir/DY1Jjuo87LOEDQzgVgge6XajbjG OGUbQkCO3O95aNowl+VSGg4hM1gMzBnuZx76NGyYFcREbn+92wRP9nGwG9cq2c1q8oDX 39Dw== X-Google-DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=1e100.net; s=20161025; h=x-gm-message-state:mime-version:from:date:message-id:subject:to; bh=0iIX/21TNnC9RrhPiI4LtCuOKRoR8sPdwVDzUvqGZ9E=; b=nppm9aYmHYKqDDEukhgw2B7ysEipl4zrHH1YT2KYO93d5wBCWgHrm/22PKliZM2nGz w8iqYifUzkkWrjP0nmkue0qaPJAQSfs8AIfAlimwlBZ94rgZIjEQ7/sCZUNkjODX3AwS 0fb04BEEs2O9vaO/AbLE72xX/tH6OdV53LsH/ATeQl1StLT5K7pK7J7wQuNbs21iM/1P uerLW6COadWCw6FZQcSP14r1W0vMgksfZIG5UI017I3k77oGwNUXXFli+HyaJIEp1/X0 HtweIgAb2gBQ8sVrTMb3CPNXUUG2K1lewOB1TvsPVjtlCSgmRo5ekhrDgbbGCizCIUkb +tsg== X-Gm-Message-State: AIkVDXLwC8mcfqHXit7HGw41ilNKDvGvFJLjlFpEWgCGsEbIxNuNoNXk+EZeuInn9GdyKVHTi+YXg2AICZ6GuA== X-Received: by 10.202.205.71 with SMTP id d68mr19930231oig.120.1483118411707; Fri, 30 Dec 2016 09:20:11 -0800 (PST) MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.74.139.116 with HTTP; Fri, 30 Dec 2016 09:20:11 -0800 (PST) From: Gennadii Kondratiev Date: Fri, 30 Dec 2016 20:20:11 +0300 Message-ID: Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=001a1134f16c16f85e0544e36afc X-Spam-Score: 0.5 (/) X-Mailman-Approved-At: Fri, 30 Dec 2016 12:51:51 -0500 X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18 Precedence: list List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Sender: "Debbugs-submit" X-Spam-Score: 0.5 (/) --001a1134f16c16f85e0544e36afc Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable #Hello! # #Thanks for your kind words and encouragement! # #As far as GRUB is concerned, please email 25248@debbugs.gnu.org detailed #information about what you expected and what you get (wrong behavior, #error messages, etc.), and how one can reproduce it. This information #is crucial in allowing us to debug and fix the problems you experience. # #Thanks for your support! # #Ludo=E2=80=99. I wrote to Ludovic Cortes that you should include Legacy Grub into GNU packages, because it can be installed in any place (e.g., on the root partition), but Grub 2 has this feature blocked by default (at least, all people in the Internet say so). Or it would be better to unblock this feature in Grub2. Even with the powerful Grub people can make less harm to their conputers than, for example, with fdisk, which you like and include everywhere. I installed GuixSD with big difficulties, and at the end I could not boot it. Of course, I booted via Aptosid Grub, but it is not very nice to use a bootloader from another OS. You do very amazing and advanced things and do not worry about some simple things. A good bootloader is important. Just, please, recover the ability of Grub 2 to write on the disk. At now moment it says that it needs to calculate block sizes, something like that. When people write --force option, it says that everything is ok, but in reality it does not write on the disk. Happy New Year! Gennadii. --001a1134f16c16f85e0544e36afc Content-Type: text/html; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
#Hello!
#
#Thanks for your kind words and encouragement!
#
#As far as GRUB is concerned, please email 25248@debbugs.gnu.org detailed
#information about what you expected and what you get (wrong behavior,
#error messages, etc.), and how one can reproduce it.=C2=A0 This informatio= n
#is crucial in allowing us to debug and fix the problems you experience. #
#Thanks for your support!
#
#Ludo=E2=80=99.

I wrote to Ludovic Cortes that you should incl= ude Legacy Grub into GNU packages, because it can be installed in any place= (e.g., on the root partition), but Grub 2 has this feature blocked by defa= ult (at least, all people in the Internet say so). Or it would be better to= unblock this feature in Grub2. Even with the powerful Grub people can make= less harm to their conputers than, for example, with fdisk, which you like= and include everywhere.

I installed GuixSD with big difficul= ties, and at the end I could not boot it. Of course, I booted via Aptosid G= rub, but it is not very nice to use a bootloader from another OS.

You do very amazing and advanced things and do not worry about some sim= ple things. A good bootloader is important.

Just, please, reco= ver the ability of Grub 2 to write on the disk. At now moment it says that = it needs to calculate block sizes, something like that. When people write -= -force option, it says that everything is ok, but in reality it does not wr= ite on the disk.

Happy New Year!

Gennadii.
--001a1134f16c16f85e0544e36afc-- From unknown Thu Jun 19 16:24:19 2025 X-Loop: help-debbugs@gnu.org Subject: bug#25248: Merry Christmas and Happy New Year! GRUB1 and GRUB2 Resent-From: =?UTF-8?Q?Tom=C3=A1=C5=A1_?= =?UTF-8?Q?=C4=8Cech?= Original-Sender: "Debbugs-submit" Resent-CC: bug-guix@gnu.org Resent-Date: Sat, 31 Dec 2016 19:54:01 +0000 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-Sender: help-debbugs@gnu.org X-GNU-PR-Message: followup 25248 X-GNU-PR-Package: guix X-GNU-PR-Keywords: To: Gennadii Kondratiev Cc: 25248@debbugs.gnu.org Received: via spool by 25248-submit@debbugs.gnu.org id=B25248.148321403315414 (code B ref 25248); Sat, 31 Dec 2016 19:54:01 +0000 Received: (at 25248) by debbugs.gnu.org; 31 Dec 2016 19:53:53 +0000 Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:33499 helo=debbugs.gnu.org) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1cNPiz-00040X-J7 for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Sat, 31 Dec 2016 14:53:53 -0500 Received: from mx2.suse.de ([195.135.220.15]:40872) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1cNPix-00040O-OB for 25248@debbugs.gnu.org; Sat, 31 Dec 2016 14:53:52 -0500 X-Virus-Scanned: by amavisd-new at test-mx.suse.de Received: from relay2.suse.de (charybdis-ext.suse.de [195.135.220.254]) by mx2.suse.de (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7DE7BAC40; Sat, 31 Dec 2016 19:53:50 +0000 (UTC) Date: Sat, 31 Dec 2016 20:53:55 +0100 Message-ID: <87ful350z0.wl-tcech@suse.com> From: =?UTF-8?Q?Tom=C3=A1=C5=A1_?= =?UTF-8?Q?=C4=8Cech?= In-Reply-To: References: User-Agent: Wanderlust/2.15.9 (Almost Unreal) SEMI-EPG/1.14.7 (Harue) FLIM/1.14.9 (=?UTF-8?Q?Goj=C5=8D?=) APEL/10.8 EasyPG/1.0.0 Emacs/25.1 (x86_64-unknown-linux-gnu) MULE/6.0 (HANACHIRUSATO) MIME-Version: 1.0 (generated by SEMI-EPG 1.14.7 - "Harue") Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-7 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-Spam-Score: -5.5 (-----) X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18 Precedence: list List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Sender: "Debbugs-submit" X-Spam-Score: -5.5 (-----) On Fri, 30 Dec 2016 18:20:11 +0100, Gennadii Kondratiev wrote: >=20 > [1 ] > [2 ] > #Hello! > # > #Thanks for your kind words and encouragement! > # > #As far as GRUB is concerned, please email 25248@debbugs.gnu.org detailed > #information about what you expected and what you get (wrong behavior, > #error messages, etc.), and how one can reproduce it. This information > #is crucial in allowing us to debug and fix the problems you experience. > # > #Thanks for your support! > # > #Ludo=A2. >=20 > I wrote to Ludovic Cortes that you should include Legacy Grub into GNU pa= ckages, because it can be installed in any place (e.g., on the root partiti= on), but > Grub 2 has this feature blocked by default (at least, all people in the I= nternet say so). Or it would be better to unblock this feature in Grub2. Ev= en with the > powerful Grub people can make less harm to their conputers than, for exam= ple, with fdisk, which you like and include everywhere.=20 > > I installed GuixSD with big difficulties, and at the end I could not boot= it. Of course, I booted via Aptosid Grub, but it is not very nice to use a= bootloader from > another OS. >=20 > You do very amazing and advanced things and do not worry about some simpl= e things. A good bootloader is important. >=20 > Just, please, recover the ability of Grub 2 to write on the disk. At now = moment it says that it needs to calculate block sizes, something like that.= When people > write --force option, it says that everything is ok, but in reality it do= es not write on the disk. 1] If you want to put Grub2 into partition, you can use filesystem, which r= eserves enough space at the beginning like BtrFs. 2] You can also use calculated block size which is less safe but still work= s in most of cases In those cases you can use either `multiboot' to chainload GuixSD's bootloa= der or just load GuixSD's configuration with `source'. 3] You can use GuixSD's configured Grub2 as your default bootloader in MBR = of the disk which is the easiest way to deal with that. Relying on unmaintained Grub is probably not the right way for anything. HTH and happy New Year to you too! S_W From debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Wed Jan 25 05:59:13 2017 Received: (at control) by debbugs.gnu.org; 25 Jan 2017 10:59:13 +0000 Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:41578 helo=debbugs.gnu.org) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1cWLIH-00026k-6y for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Wed, 25 Jan 2017 05:59:13 -0500 Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([208.118.235.92]:58630) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1cWLIG-00026X-Bw for control@debbugs.gnu.org; Wed, 25 Jan 2017 05:59:12 -0500 Received: from Debian-exim by eggs.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1cWLI6-0003Qb-Fw for control@debbugs.gnu.org; Wed, 25 Jan 2017 05:59:07 -0500 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.3.2 (2011-06-06) on eggs.gnu.org X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-5.1 required=5.0 tests=BAYES_00,RP_MATCHES_RCVD autolearn=disabled version=3.3.2 Received: from fencepost.gnu.org ([2001:4830:134:3::e]:58602) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1cWLI6-0003QV-Dp for control@debbugs.gnu.org; Wed, 25 Jan 2017 05:59:02 -0500 Received: from reverse-83.fdn.fr ([80.67.176.83]:39274 helo=ribbon) by fencepost.gnu.org with esmtpsa (TLS1.2:RSA_AES_256_CBC_SHA1:256) (Exim 4.82) (envelope-from ) id 1cWLI5-0006kt-RO for control@debbugs.gnu.org; Wed, 25 Jan 2017 05:59:02 -0500 Date: Wed, 25 Jan 2017 11:58:59 +0100 Message-Id: <878tpz2yoc.fsf@gnu.org> To: control@debbugs.gnu.org From: ludo@gnu.org (Ludovic =?utf-8?Q?Court=C3=A8s?=) Subject: control message for bug #25248 MIME-version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-detected-operating-system: by eggs.gnu.org: GNU/Linux 2.2.x-3.x [generic] X-Received-From: 2001:4830:134:3::e X-Spam-Score: -8.2 (--------) X-Debbugs-Envelope-To: control X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18 Precedence: list List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Sender: "Debbugs-submit" X-Spam-Score: -8.2 (--------) tags 25248 notabug close 25248