From unknown Sun Jun 22 08:02:47 2025 X-Loop: help-debbugs@gnu.org Subject: bug#25204: 25.1.50; I can't change the scroll-lock setting when Emacs has the focus Resent-From: Dani Moncayo Original-Sender: "Debbugs-submit" Resent-CC: bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org Resent-Date: Thu, 15 Dec 2016 15:20:02 +0000 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-Sender: help-debbugs@gnu.org X-GNU-PR-Message: report 25204 X-GNU-PR-Package: emacs X-GNU-PR-Keywords: To: 25204@debbugs.gnu.org X-Debbugs-Original-To: bug-gnu-emacs Received: via spool by submit@debbugs.gnu.org id=B.148181517421046 (code B ref -1); Thu, 15 Dec 2016 15:20:02 +0000 Received: (at submit) by debbugs.gnu.org; 15 Dec 2016 15:19:34 +0000 Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:43001 helo=debbugs.gnu.org) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1cHXok-0005TO-0J for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Thu, 15 Dec 2016 10:19:34 -0500 Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([208.118.235.92]:50309) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1cHXoi-0005TA-MV for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Thu, 15 Dec 2016 10:19:32 -0500 Received: from Debian-exim by eggs.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1cHXoZ-0003Cq-JO for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Thu, 15 Dec 2016 10:19:27 -0500 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.3.2 (2011-06-06) on eggs.gnu.org X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=0.8 required=5.0 tests=BAYES_50,FREEMAIL_FROM, T_DKIM_INVALID autolearn=disabled version=3.3.2 Received: from lists.gnu.org ([2001:4830:134:3::11]:60005) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS1.0:RSA_AES_256_CBC_SHA1:32) (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1cHXoZ-0003Cd-G4 for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Thu, 15 Dec 2016 10:19:23 -0500 Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([2001:4830:134:3::10]:41277) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1cHXoR-00047K-KS for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Thu, 15 Dec 2016 10:19:23 -0500 Received: from Debian-exim by eggs.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1cHXoN-00038v-Kb for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Thu, 15 Dec 2016 10:19:15 -0500 Received: from mail-ua0-f182.google.com ([209.85.217.182]:34519) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS1.0:RSA_AES_128_CBC_SHA1:16) (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1cHXoN-00032o-G3 for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Thu, 15 Dec 2016 10:19:11 -0500 Received: by mail-ua0-f182.google.com with SMTP id 51so10017049uai.1 for ; Thu, 15 Dec 2016 07:18:48 -0800 (PST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20161025; h=mime-version:from:date:message-id:subject:to; bh=b3FVFg3X+AmXfhTtyVRMavmedyGmgOlyPnLRLnbFnNY=; b=gaWLQKmS8ZbVVF3k7sf0k62E2tb83+0HUpSfLngECRsb2enE6ywi5u3xYwI2953Moz LpQ2LJUJxILNWShYu+l+WXjXKRIPoNAMHOcEr6pK7N5M/Q7iuA6NP+WtW9A0CvTes+3w DLB13JZKL6kZi2GZfg+S92nUOQ/fO/H1HXsy0lDRw1enRbW8za6qdsJ9ouTC3T4NjewT WRudoWM5KFoTK8FXVypeXZxXhZEuAYcyoLUUd4g4/4igFNM347mPqos+wATm2n5/OzdZ Dh1+mZjcncF4r9hFxX98Ersjb0+Fdspf0ZVQPF+7O6pjCASraGjODrmTTkenZbdiKtId HRRA== X-Google-DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=1e100.net; s=20161025; h=x-gm-message-state:mime-version:from:date:message-id:subject:to; bh=b3FVFg3X+AmXfhTtyVRMavmedyGmgOlyPnLRLnbFnNY=; b=h3ZvNP9kXjCsvJNviFWOk1gcL3GwaVqM7V5coPnTkqS2ozlOcLFjRVo2M8JrzYd+70 pM0QF1593g/LcW015pwOxpnqkWGoISUKOsRQddBTLA5JIrCfb0YmHAvFktHR7YyyGEeB EwrlG99dkvlxqv1wJ5sqbbfdhvpcYDBUG/qguWX/2zZ3Bg1CmUL2cyf+bhFwHPyKo+kF mvq6VSGBhdV/wZn4kSasAnEYFZV14cArIr6NgQW+STtJJf9pNiUZ+Q/Cj3PQo5IvKDEz YfzzOanybAa9owpP2MlRADZmoCrfX8E17Ut4iyz4OLC6c6/im8mqixRS+96E5Yha3KHt qM9A== X-Gm-Message-State: AKaTC02l9FL3PH5NptUvkKyDtNd+VzqKJbr5yYCbicIZQxNkkdkJNJjzrgPeLJLMFspLqIrkAYhZuDW9Ab/jww== X-Received: by 10.176.1.17 with SMTP id 17mr1488801uak.143.1481815067992; Thu, 15 Dec 2016 07:17:47 -0800 (PST) MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.31.88.5 with HTTP; Thu, 15 Dec 2016 07:17:47 -0800 (PST) From: Dani Moncayo Date: Thu, 15 Dec 2016 16:17:47 +0100 Message-ID: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 X-detected-operating-system: by eggs.gnu.org: GNU/Linux 2.2.x-3.x [generic] [fuzzy] X-detected-operating-system: by eggs.gnu.org: GNU/Linux 2.6.x X-Received-From: 2001:4830:134:3::11 X-Spam-Score: -4.0 (----) X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18 Precedence: list List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Sender: "Debbugs-submit" X-Spam-Score: -4.0 (----) When Emacs has the focus, pressing the key (usually labelled "scroll lock") has no effect, i.e., if scroll-lock was enabled at that moment, it remains enabled (and vice-versa). If I select another application, then the above problem disappears, i.e., I can't switch on/off the scroll-lock setting. Tested with "emacs -Q". In GNU Emacs 25.1.50.1 (i686-pc-mingw32) of 2016-11-12 built on LEG570 Repository revision: 9ad2ae7757b96d5887c3c0547fcd62e558cadd23 Windowing system distributor 'Microsoft Corp.', version 6.1.7601 Configured using: 'configure --host=i686-pc-mingw32' -- Dani Moncayo From unknown Sun Jun 22 08:02:47 2025 X-Loop: help-debbugs@gnu.org Subject: bug#25204: 25.1.50; I can't change the scroll-lock setting when Emacs has the focus Resent-From: Dani Moncayo Original-Sender: "Debbugs-submit" Resent-CC: bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org Resent-Date: Thu, 15 Dec 2016 15:23:02 +0000 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-Sender: help-debbugs@gnu.org X-GNU-PR-Message: followup 25204 X-GNU-PR-Package: emacs X-GNU-PR-Keywords: To: 25204@debbugs.gnu.org Received: via spool by 25204-submit@debbugs.gnu.org id=B25204.148181535421372 (code B ref 25204); Thu, 15 Dec 2016 15:23:02 +0000 Received: (at 25204) by debbugs.gnu.org; 15 Dec 2016 15:22:34 +0000 Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:43007 helo=debbugs.gnu.org) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1cHXre-0005Ye-Hi for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; 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I can't change the scroll-lock setting when Emacs has the focus Resent-From: Eli Zaretskii Original-Sender: "Debbugs-submit" Resent-CC: bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org Resent-Date: Thu, 15 Dec 2016 16:13:01 +0000 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-Sender: help-debbugs@gnu.org X-GNU-PR-Message: followup 25204 X-GNU-PR-Package: emacs X-GNU-PR-Keywords: To: Dani Moncayo Cc: 25204@debbugs.gnu.org Reply-To: Eli Zaretskii Received: via spool by 25204-submit@debbugs.gnu.org id=B25204.148181835026090 (code B ref 25204); Thu, 15 Dec 2016 16:13:01 +0000 Received: (at 25204) by debbugs.gnu.org; 15 Dec 2016 16:12:30 +0000 Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:43069 helo=debbugs.gnu.org) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1cHYdy-0006mj-Cs for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Thu, 15 Dec 2016 11:12:30 -0500 Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([208.118.235.92]:37535) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1cHYdx-0006mT-Dh for 25204@debbugs.gnu.org; Thu, 15 Dec 2016 11:12:29 -0500 Received: from Debian-exim by eggs.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1cHYdn-0003US-By for 25204@debbugs.gnu.org; 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When I do that, I see Emacs bitching at me, saying that is undefined. Don't you see that? From unknown Sun Jun 22 08:02:47 2025 X-Loop: help-debbugs@gnu.org Subject: bug#25204: 25.1.50; I can't change the scroll-lock setting when Emacs has the focus Resent-From: Dani Moncayo Original-Sender: "Debbugs-submit" Resent-CC: bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org Resent-Date: Thu, 15 Dec 2016 16:23:01 +0000 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-Sender: help-debbugs@gnu.org X-GNU-PR-Message: followup 25204 X-GNU-PR-Package: emacs X-GNU-PR-Keywords: To: Eli Zaretskii Cc: 25204@debbugs.gnu.org Received: via spool by 25204-submit@debbugs.gnu.org id=B25204.148181894527010 (code B ref 25204); Thu, 15 Dec 2016 16:23:01 +0000 Received: (at 25204) by debbugs.gnu.org; 15 Dec 2016 16:22:25 +0000 Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:43080 helo=debbugs.gnu.org) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1cHYnZ-00071a-MS for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Thu, 15 Dec 2016 11:22:25 -0500 Received: from mail-ua0-f169.google.com ([209.85.217.169]:32812) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1cHYnY-00071M-As for 25204@debbugs.gnu.org; Thu, 15 Dec 2016 11:22:24 -0500 Received: by mail-ua0-f169.google.com with SMTP id 20so11925503uak.0 for <25204@debbugs.gnu.org>; Thu, 15 Dec 2016 08:22:24 -0800 (PST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20161025; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:from:date:message-id:subject:to :cc; bh=ZbKFUYUvdmk/0WSnWZ6MuVsu7JJrsz8RwAJMoeSvFxM=; b=iyP6c/ep3ZGFTtQx2Otf70JekjJwuYb2CoMtjvPIXv5z0Wl8CL8xC1tk9n31qR1siH +e/ZpPMvCy5g+mMzQUSpeeBUh2RYZwAceBWrNTxaQsTqLCHMjl5NySRVg4kODbLVgakz 2pMy18SPfCWqs4ELAqcXzcqWm82qmvahaJdpZdm9JNIxjaRqSP/tP6eKuBcYHZd3VrP+ enlUfJc+KyafO1V59TQwIdAmDc+fADNZTjuqlQVDcjlMKNe0gFDs4J6uCZ0H2tfOKl8a dqT/AfHeBVHNLVbUQq6vmKi2vN16bnkdiJQzYwTjMH2rn7NCDIFtrFiuHo19HEflLcui UldQ== X-Google-DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=1e100.net; s=20161025; h=x-gm-message-state:mime-version:in-reply-to:references:from:date :message-id:subject:to:cc; bh=ZbKFUYUvdmk/0WSnWZ6MuVsu7JJrsz8RwAJMoeSvFxM=; b=iH1coZjGIMBkSKLx4EM3zz6/L7znBVoKj3itRQgH0aBZqIbzFCUsrVP/RgOCp+E18d OGNiwaaLmpSGQy4M4mst8zNEwQ8F320RcQ6uOf5QJrVwpUleV96f3JAkaTftG580Cd/1 VzMLesdV3B2omgX8xUaLVYWwjZlbNKLJZRpRWIZdmgjK0jE1X7azvrlOZdOeMz1T0RpF m6Eoa+sumNmA7aBaIWBmCXvvF+VlyLFBUrZnEN2KUSa8dY3FX8ThfdmJBz8h1VkLHvZg Tvy51pb7f2L6CJLJgc672fVfEANSFKeEQcn4+FLefGiYbgeofHBDPtJ2aGEgIt02znkZ A02A== X-Gm-Message-State: AKaTC00AvKQ1aYgyk5bFbwtc/Ec1FQ0f7ryZRy//7eYOPZl1p/NmZhVQ8LDVViP46ynxS/A5dmsdeMJ9udxIVQ== X-Received: by 10.176.86.23 with SMTP id y23mr2014115uaa.88.1481818938855; Thu, 15 Dec 2016 08:22:18 -0800 (PST) MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.31.88.5 with HTTP; Thu, 15 Dec 2016 08:22:18 -0800 (PST) In-Reply-To: <838trh9npo.fsf@gnu.org> References: <838trh9npo.fsf@gnu.org> From: Dani Moncayo Date: Thu, 15 Dec 2016 17:22:18 +0100 Message-ID: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 X-Spam-Score: -0.0 (/) X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18 Precedence: list List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Sender: "Debbugs-submit" X-Spam-Score: -0.0 (/) >> When Emacs has the focus, pressing the key (usually labelled >> "scroll lock") has no effect, i.e., if scroll-lock was enabled at that >> moment, it remains enabled (and vice-versa). > > When I do that, I see Emacs bitching at me, saying that is > undefined. Don't you see that? Yes, I do. And the scroll-lock led of my keyboard blinks as if the setting was changed but restored after a fraction of a second. -- Dani Moncayo From unknown Sun Jun 22 08:02:47 2025 X-Loop: help-debbugs@gnu.org Subject: bug#25204: 25.1.50; I can't change the scroll-lock setting when Emacs has the focus Resent-From: Eli Zaretskii Original-Sender: "Debbugs-submit" Resent-CC: bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org Resent-Date: Fri, 16 Dec 2016 14:05:02 +0000 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-Sender: help-debbugs@gnu.org X-GNU-PR-Message: followup 25204 X-GNU-PR-Package: emacs X-GNU-PR-Keywords: To: Dani Moncayo Cc: 25204@debbugs.gnu.org Reply-To: Eli Zaretskii Received: via spool by 25204-submit@debbugs.gnu.org id=B25204.148189710129311 (code B ref 25204); Fri, 16 Dec 2016 14:05:02 +0000 Received: (at 25204) by debbugs.gnu.org; 16 Dec 2016 14:05:01 +0000 Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:43697 helo=debbugs.gnu.org) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1cHt89-0007ch-1q for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Fri, 16 Dec 2016 09:05:01 -0500 Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([208.118.235.92]:43181) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1cHt87-0007cV-Pz for 25204@debbugs.gnu.org; Fri, 16 Dec 2016 09:05:00 -0500 Received: from Debian-exim by eggs.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1cHt7z-00057z-IV for 25204@debbugs.gnu.org; Fri, 16 Dec 2016 09:04:54 -0500 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.3.2 (2011-06-06) on eggs.gnu.org X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-2.3 required=5.0 tests=BAYES_50,RP_MATCHES_RCVD autolearn=disabled version=3.3.2 Received: from fencepost.gnu.org ([2001:4830:134:3::e]:53903) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1cHt7z-00057u-FH; Fri, 16 Dec 2016 09:04:51 -0500 Received: from 84.94.185.246.cable.012.net.il ([84.94.185.246]:2767 helo=home-c4e4a596f7) by fencepost.gnu.org with esmtpsa (TLS1.2:RSA_AES_256_CBC_SHA1:256) (Exim 4.82) (envelope-from ) id 1cHt7y-0006lO-CF; Fri, 16 Dec 2016 09:04:51 -0500 Date: Fri, 16 Dec 2016 16:04:06 +0200 Message-Id: <83bmwc7yy1.fsf@gnu.org> From: Eli Zaretskii In-reply-to: (message from Dani Moncayo on Thu, 15 Dec 2016 17:22:18 +0100) References: <838trh9npo.fsf@gnu.org> X-detected-operating-system: by eggs.gnu.org: GNU/Linux 2.2.x-3.x [generic] X-Received-From: 2001:4830:134:3::e X-Spam-Score: -8.1 (--------) X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18 Precedence: list List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Sender: "Debbugs-submit" X-Spam-Score: -8.1 (--------) > From: Dani Moncayo > Date: Thu, 15 Dec 2016 17:22:18 +0100 > Cc: 25204@debbugs.gnu.org > > >> When Emacs has the focus, pressing the key (usually labelled > >> "scroll lock") has no effect, i.e., if scroll-lock was enabled at that > >> moment, it remains enabled (and vice-versa). > > > > When I do that, I see Emacs bitching at me, saying that is > > undefined. Don't you see that? > > Yes, I do. And the scroll-lock led of my keyboard blinks as if the > setting was changed but restored after a fraction of a second. That's the intended behavior, since Emacs receives and by default ignores that key. Why is that a problem? What did you expect this key to do inside Emacs, when it is not bound to any key? AFAIK, it has no system-wide default behavior, each application does whatever it pleases with it. From unknown Sun Jun 22 08:02:47 2025 X-Loop: help-debbugs@gnu.org Subject: bug#25204: 25.1.50; I can't change the scroll-lock setting when Emacs has the focus Resent-From: Dani Moncayo Original-Sender: "Debbugs-submit" Resent-CC: bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org Resent-Date: Fri, 16 Dec 2016 15:53:02 +0000 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-Sender: help-debbugs@gnu.org X-GNU-PR-Message: followup 25204 X-GNU-PR-Package: emacs X-GNU-PR-Keywords: To: Eli Zaretskii Cc: 25204@debbugs.gnu.org Received: via spool by 25204-submit@debbugs.gnu.org id=B25204.14819035728116 (code B ref 25204); Fri, 16 Dec 2016 15:53:02 +0000 Received: (at 25204) by debbugs.gnu.org; 16 Dec 2016 15:52:52 +0000 Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:44448 helo=debbugs.gnu.org) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1cHuoW-00026q-5G for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Fri, 16 Dec 2016 10:52:52 -0500 Received: from mail-vk0-f53.google.com ([209.85.213.53]:34810) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1cHuoU-00026d-IY for 25204@debbugs.gnu.org; Fri, 16 Dec 2016 10:52:50 -0500 Received: by mail-vk0-f53.google.com with SMTP id x186so90739101vkd.1 for <25204@debbugs.gnu.org>; Fri, 16 Dec 2016 07:52:50 -0800 (PST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20161025; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:from:date:message-id:subject:to :cc; bh=dZGx9/mohLHl2CuBwZDXmvxL0qLcOa3TPJR5j0wBw1o=; b=oAeFPMDI+UnlfnqovsKKbCvva22y7FDQgTgCiEyEQPWta5xI4FNjgxuzM+nEtLDMFz AIL+7l+7hlmYUb8BWlyqjam/P7StNcBG1kvY6MDglX3Is2I1GMg26p0h0K83uoftaSdG rUzRJCQgtco1s1xC/zvamP8JQxYPvu4utxTzP871VhbrIoQ1XeBl6SO5YMZdkXrAYrEk LBFctlI98N791rBwht7Ob16PPk2l2I1OfFEBYZ5+aNgnxJqTk/OUNGJzpuIGh6epDCEL TNQc8UswrwvfiERshkQTdTqY+iTUNBliYoBCKMNhZ3fKQ6Alz/ZpQPy9jjPEbrwfKzTH Rqhw== X-Google-DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=1e100.net; s=20161025; h=x-gm-message-state:mime-version:in-reply-to:references:from:date :message-id:subject:to:cc; bh=dZGx9/mohLHl2CuBwZDXmvxL0qLcOa3TPJR5j0wBw1o=; b=bnrxbRooi8cmenpDYgTRg1GHM7UUAWzX+1FYqhc9RSSOsLZkn5YcFqN2WrDpgEBLwl fVJ7XKMd/C7/AFCN8XdilE6i25M9UXN7gZzEJ3L9sf+g3Arox40wNbVx0tdl5LZHrSYG 2OcNrJsPtsXuJO+6J1ovjCnmG5H6JG8UDQaI60BrYNU5Qj81f5tJXu/h2qEBRvGrg/RP +UEeibI/2yk+hQjTfLwDD4WuHh6cETfZHkn09WS50BXmkC8cWpl8v+cl3aPafIRb0OHX 1P2AkxRK1UECozdHjOc7/vJNyfFVwDjCAKOEJ//8bZQ0fQkwVQKjm0O8DFCjA91Y77x8 uYEA== X-Gm-Message-State: AIkVDXLyqT6AcNVzqbIp8gTcGsaqxcvoPGDsOCcdunPEdiCrchy18/D0o4CeHqZXQYa3NMFviiaXHyawvpyHjA== X-Received: by 10.31.49.216 with SMTP id x207mr1536198vkx.82.1481903564742; Fri, 16 Dec 2016 07:52:44 -0800 (PST) MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.31.88.5 with HTTP; Fri, 16 Dec 2016 07:52:44 -0800 (PST) In-Reply-To: <83bmwc7yy1.fsf@gnu.org> References: <838trh9npo.fsf@gnu.org> <83bmwc7yy1.fsf@gnu.org> From: Dani Moncayo Date: Fri, 16 Dec 2016 16:52:44 +0100 Message-ID: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 X-Spam-Score: -0.0 (/) X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18 Precedence: list List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Sender: "Debbugs-submit" X-Spam-Score: -0.0 (/) >> >> When Emacs has the focus, pressing the key (usually labelled >> >> "scroll lock") has no effect, i.e., if scroll-lock was enabled at that >> >> moment, it remains enabled (and vice-versa). >> > >> > When I do that, I see Emacs bitching at me, saying that is >> > undefined. Don't you see that? >> >> Yes, I do. And the scroll-lock led of my keyboard blinks as if the >> setting was changed but restored after a fraction of a second. > > That's the intended behavior, since Emacs receives and by default > ignores that key. > > Why is that a problem? That (Emacs ignoring the key) is not the problem I reported. > What did you expect this key to do inside > Emacs, when it is not bound to any key? AFAIK, it has no system-wide > default behavior, each application does whatever it pleases with it. I expect the key to *always* toggle the "scroll lock" (system-wide) state, which is the behavior I've ever seen, with the only exception reported here. It doesn't make any sense to me that Emacs, when focused, blocks the current "scroll lock" state. To me, this is definitely unexpected (annoying) behavior. -- Dani Moncayo From unknown Sun Jun 22 08:02:47 2025 X-Loop: help-debbugs@gnu.org Subject: bug#25204: 25.1.50; I can't change the scroll-lock setting when Emacs has the focus Resent-From: Eli Zaretskii Original-Sender: "Debbugs-submit" Resent-CC: bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org Resent-Date: Sat, 17 Dec 2016 14:46:01 +0000 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-Sender: help-debbugs@gnu.org X-GNU-PR-Message: followup 25204 X-GNU-PR-Package: emacs X-GNU-PR-Keywords: To: Dani Moncayo Cc: 25204@debbugs.gnu.org Reply-To: Eli Zaretskii Received: via spool by 25204-submit@debbugs.gnu.org id=B25204.148198594125702 (code B ref 25204); Sat, 17 Dec 2016 14:46:01 +0000 Received: (at 25204) by debbugs.gnu.org; 17 Dec 2016 14:45:41 +0000 Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:44837 helo=debbugs.gnu.org) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1cIGF3-0006gU-8I for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Sat, 17 Dec 2016 09:45:41 -0500 Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([208.118.235.92]:48440) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1cIGF2-0006gI-Dd for 25204@debbugs.gnu.org; Sat, 17 Dec 2016 09:45:40 -0500 Received: from Debian-exim by eggs.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1cIGEu-00012C-2J for 25204@debbugs.gnu.org; Sat, 17 Dec 2016 09:45:35 -0500 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.3.2 (2011-06-06) on eggs.gnu.org X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-2.3 required=5.0 tests=BAYES_50,RP_MATCHES_RCVD autolearn=disabled version=3.3.2 Received: from fencepost.gnu.org ([2001:4830:134:3::e]:47125) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1cIGEt-000126-Ut; Sat, 17 Dec 2016 09:45:31 -0500 Received: from 84.94.185.246.cable.012.net.il ([84.94.185.246]:3714 helo=home-c4e4a596f7) by fencepost.gnu.org with esmtpsa (TLS1.2:RSA_AES_256_CBC_SHA1:256) (Exim 4.82) (envelope-from ) id 1cIGEt-0008DW-8M; Sat, 17 Dec 2016 09:45:31 -0500 Date: Sat, 17 Dec 2016 16:44:53 +0200 Message-Id: <83bmwa7gyi.fsf@gnu.org> From: Eli Zaretskii In-reply-to: (message from Dani Moncayo on Fri, 16 Dec 2016 16:52:44 +0100) References: <838trh9npo.fsf@gnu.org> <83bmwc7yy1.fsf@gnu.org> X-detected-operating-system: by eggs.gnu.org: GNU/Linux 2.2.x-3.x [generic] X-Received-From: 2001:4830:134:3::e X-Spam-Score: -8.1 (--------) X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18 Precedence: list List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Sender: "Debbugs-submit" X-Spam-Score: -8.1 (--------) > From: Dani Moncayo > Date: Fri, 16 Dec 2016 16:52:44 +0100 > Cc: 25204@debbugs.gnu.org > > I expect the key to *always* toggle the "scroll lock" > (system-wide) state, which is the behavior I've ever seen, with the > only exception reported here. > > It doesn't make any sense to me that Emacs, when focused, blocks the > current "scroll lock" state. To me, this is definitely unexpected > (annoying) behavior. That was the default behavior since Emacs 23.2; I guess very few users really press that key or care about the results. If you set w32-scroll-lock-modifier to t, does that produce the behavior you expect? If so, I prefer to update the doc string to mention this setting, rather than change back 7-year old behavior. Thanks. From unknown Sun Jun 22 08:02:47 2025 X-Loop: help-debbugs@gnu.org Subject: bug#25204: 25.1.50; I can't change the scroll-lock setting when Emacs has the focus Resent-From: Dani Moncayo Original-Sender: "Debbugs-submit" Resent-CC: bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org Resent-Date: Sun, 18 Dec 2016 21:41:01 +0000 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-Sender: help-debbugs@gnu.org X-GNU-PR-Message: followup 25204 X-GNU-PR-Package: emacs X-GNU-PR-Keywords: To: Eli Zaretskii Cc: 25204@debbugs.gnu.org Received: via spool by 25204-submit@debbugs.gnu.org id=B25204.14820972332309 (code B ref 25204); Sun, 18 Dec 2016 21:41:01 +0000 Received: (at 25204) by debbugs.gnu.org; 18 Dec 2016 21:40:33 +0000 Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:46490 helo=debbugs.gnu.org) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1cIjC4-0000bA-Tb for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Sun, 18 Dec 2016 16:40:33 -0500 Received: from mail-vk0-f45.google.com ([209.85.213.45]:33958) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1cIjC3-0000ax-I9 for 25204@debbugs.gnu.org; Sun, 18 Dec 2016 16:40:31 -0500 Received: by mail-vk0-f45.google.com with SMTP id x186so112392327vkd.1 for <25204@debbugs.gnu.org>; Sun, 18 Dec 2016 13:40:31 -0800 (PST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20161025; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:from:date:message-id:subject:to :cc; bh=fwP7AYQ+sf8IU12p6TfKc4fNys36jLb+WsTkHqJpx7w=; b=uGQt/axM+KdF3FCva8QPmd5F/PVkHPpSGWM7CRJUR4PRGIEO8Ct7J0/6UIV5IMjRk9 KAUYSGhyauhw+pLzudSIYySx6ZscrDnp/nTy/Qj3Kbol1AfbARNT2DK9vgoVeG9nDVAn 7AEwA4JmhmdxcXz3Sf5DrbnYZ0UiB2SqGpyduIGsq6jo1207IBqa89YqNzCzGlyYTAgh PeBWJnz2DQFlzVjk/AudgCDBJcIll977nM3tlsGsqYA1cSQ+A1F+oNcL7oceESTfYjpR 9v2aT3QpxaJUFL89KJlE0FVrYYmJMexuEoB3Lm2qOP21wdb1NDuqeWMYUcfGmmHVs+tN 5/EA== X-Google-DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=1e100.net; s=20161025; h=x-gm-message-state:mime-version:in-reply-to:references:from:date :message-id:subject:to:cc; bh=fwP7AYQ+sf8IU12p6TfKc4fNys36jLb+WsTkHqJpx7w=; b=GxGDC2PwYwuSdWwr5CSdAnMBhM2DaeIzIo1xpHdvVMs6GZewlhqt0Jv+lvEicZlJqv YIYBqim0QyWbp67AIb+gMG+XLnJBd5fxJDfLKDhTgGSs/qwwVomNqCZ6aHhQde2FdwaT rXXDe1+P0iY1esedXQUsbfH0Ub3hGcnZLkyZ4dIEAVi/OAsgPRrK9RZnIlAJ+u2VukA9 zuN6cmFgwNgyA+xlUEqB3en26kn3DvYO0Him6vjV/TeEBga53TYfCLJCPZLktuzHDAbq Rg2CtJ63c8eUJjfnGa4JYcPqJUhoRs54lwM7sc24RLxaP45UalN4imKjvr6u15Oz8BSc RgXg== X-Gm-Message-State: AIkVDXJeIDCFfOKFUR/GBpY4Ucu3IiAoK0mtnLrcZjKYpFH+KFbKjgMEP1tHz8dutoHxrForQrSQSvRQM81ytQ== X-Received: by 10.31.52.5 with SMTP id b5mr5272866vka.65.1482097225862; Sun, 18 Dec 2016 13:40:25 -0800 (PST) MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.31.88.5 with HTTP; Sun, 18 Dec 2016 13:40:25 -0800 (PST) In-Reply-To: <83bmwa7gyi.fsf@gnu.org> References: <838trh9npo.fsf@gnu.org> <83bmwc7yy1.fsf@gnu.org> <83bmwa7gyi.fsf@gnu.org> From: Dani Moncayo Date: Sun, 18 Dec 2016 22:40:25 +0100 Message-ID: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 X-Spam-Score: -0.0 (/) X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18 Precedence: list List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Sender: "Debbugs-submit" X-Spam-Score: -0.0 (/) > That was the default behavior since Emacs 23.2; I guess very few users > really press that key or care about the results. I agree, because otherwise a bug report like this would have been filed earlier. In fact, I also don't use that key for anything. I found this bug while investigating another problem: In my office PC, the scroll-lock state sometimes, somehow, ends up being "ON" (without pressing the scroll-lock key). That annoys me while working in MS-Excel, and I suspect that Emacs has something to do with that phenomenon. But I still haven't found a recipe to report that problem. > If you set w32-scroll-lock-modifier to t, does that produce the > behavior you expect? Yes. > If so, I prefer to update the doc string to > mention this setting, rather than change back 7-year old behavior. FWIW: IMO, the default behavior should be let the scroll-lock key toggle the scroll-lock status. Definitely. Thanks. -- Dani Moncayo From unknown Sun Jun 22 08:02:47 2025 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: MIME-tools 5.505 (Entity 5.505) X-Loop: help-debbugs@gnu.org From: help-debbugs@gnu.org (GNU bug Tracking System) To: Dani Moncayo Subject: bug#25204: closed (Re: bug#25204: 25.1.50; I can't change the scroll-lock setting when Emacs has the focus) Message-ID: References: <83lgvb4wzk.fsf@gnu.org> X-Gnu-PR-Message: they-closed 25204 X-Gnu-PR-Package: emacs Reply-To: 25204@debbugs.gnu.org Date: Mon, 19 Dec 2016 18:05:01 +0000 Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="----------=_1482170701-10509-1" This is a multi-part message in MIME format... ------------=_1482170701-10509-1 Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8" Your bug report #25204: 25.1.50; I can't change the scroll-lock setting when Emacs has the = focus which was filed against the emacs package, has been closed. The explanation is attached below, along with your original report. If you require more details, please reply to 25204@debbugs.gnu.org. --=20 25204: http://debbugs.gnu.org/cgi/bugreport.cgi?bug=3D25204 GNU Bug Tracking System Contact help-debbugs@gnu.org with problems ------------=_1482170701-10509-1 Content-Type: message/rfc822 Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Received: (at 25204-done) by debbugs.gnu.org; 19 Dec 2016 18:04:27 +0000 Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:47897 helo=debbugs.gnu.org) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1cJ2IV-0002ib-3a for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Mon, 19 Dec 2016 13:04:27 -0500 Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([208.118.235.92]:60528) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1cJ2IS-0002iL-To for 25204-done@debbugs.gnu.org; Mon, 19 Dec 2016 13:04:25 -0500 Received: from Debian-exim by eggs.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1cJ2IK-0004LI-RY for 25204-done@debbugs.gnu.org; Mon, 19 Dec 2016 13:04:19 -0500 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.3.2 (2011-06-06) on eggs.gnu.org X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-3.1 required=5.0 tests=BAYES_20,RP_MATCHES_RCVD autolearn=disabled version=3.3.2 Received: from fencepost.gnu.org ([2001:4830:134:3::e]:47781) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1cJ2IK-0004LE-Na; Mon, 19 Dec 2016 13:04:16 -0500 Received: from 84.94.185.246.cable.012.net.il ([84.94.185.246]:1841 helo=home-c4e4a596f7) by fencepost.gnu.org with esmtpsa (TLS1.2:RSA_AES_256_CBC_SHA1:256) (Exim 4.82) (envelope-from ) id 1cJ2IJ-0001ru-M4; Mon, 19 Dec 2016 13:04:16 -0500 Date: Mon, 19 Dec 2016 20:03:43 +0200 Message-Id: <83lgvb4wzk.fsf@gnu.org> From: Eli Zaretskii To: Dani Moncayo In-reply-to: (message from Dani Moncayo on Sun, 18 Dec 2016 22:40:25 +0100) Subject: Re: bug#25204: 25.1.50; I can't change the scroll-lock setting when Emacs has the focus References: <838trh9npo.fsf@gnu.org> <83bmwc7yy1.fsf@gnu.org> <83bmwa7gyi.fsf@gnu.org> X-detected-operating-system: by eggs.gnu.org: GNU/Linux 2.2.x-3.x [generic] X-Received-From: 2001:4830:134:3::e X-Spam-Score: -8.1 (--------) X-Debbugs-Envelope-To: 25204-done Cc: 25204-done@debbugs.gnu.org X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18 Precedence: list List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Reply-To: Eli Zaretskii Errors-To: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Sender: "Debbugs-submit" X-Spam-Score: -8.1 (--------) > From: Dani Moncayo > Date: Sun, 18 Dec 2016 22:40:25 +0100 > Cc: 25204@debbugs.gnu.org > > > If you set w32-scroll-lock-modifier to t, does that produce the > > behavior you expect? > > Yes. OK, I documented how to get the behavior you wanted, and I'm marking this bug done. > FWIW: IMO, the default behavior should be let the scroll-lock key > toggle the scroll-lock status. Definitely. Well, as I said, this was changed from t to nil 7 years ago, see bug#2827. The reason that was done seems no longer be pertinent, but still, we had this default since then, so I don't think we should change it. 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If I select another application, then the above problem disappears, i.e., I can't switch on/off the scroll-lock setting. Tested with "emacs -Q". In GNU Emacs 25.1.50.1 (i686-pc-mingw32) of 2016-11-12 built on LEG570 Repository revision: 9ad2ae7757b96d5887c3c0547fcd62e558cadd23 Windowing system distributor 'Microsoft Corp.', version 6.1.7601 Configured using: 'configure --host=i686-pc-mingw32' -- Dani Moncayo ------------=_1482170701-10509-1-- From unknown Sun Jun 22 08:02:47 2025 X-Loop: help-debbugs@gnu.org Subject: bug#25204: 25.1.50; I can't change the scroll-lock setting when Emacs has the focus Resent-From: Dani Moncayo Original-Sender: "Debbugs-submit" Resent-CC: bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org Resent-Date: Tue, 20 Dec 2016 09:14:01 +0000 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-Sender: help-debbugs@gnu.org X-GNU-PR-Message: followup 25204 X-GNU-PR-Package: emacs X-GNU-PR-Keywords: To: Eli Zaretskii Cc: 25204@debbugs.gnu.org Received: via spool by 25204-submit@debbugs.gnu.org id=B25204.148222520231958 (code B ref 25204); Tue, 20 Dec 2016 09:14:01 +0000 Received: (at 25204) by debbugs.gnu.org; 20 Dec 2016 09:13:22 +0000 Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:48259 helo=debbugs.gnu.org) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1cJGU5-0008JO-PY for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Tue, 20 Dec 2016 04:13:21 -0500 Received: from mail-vk0-f52.google.com ([209.85.213.52]:34898) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1cJGU4-0008J6-AA for 25204@debbugs.gnu.org; Tue, 20 Dec 2016 04:13:20 -0500 Received: by mail-vk0-f52.google.com with SMTP id w194so131649558vkw.2 for <25204@debbugs.gnu.org>; Tue, 20 Dec 2016 01:13:20 -0800 (PST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20161025; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:from:date:message-id:subject:to :cc; bh=mWtqFigPyPAM3gDVeWrdBhVKzLGaiHVCWL+VKfCG/5M=; b=u7912eTRIBCIVDbWL3ZdUKTvNuxwalJqztOkzT4Iz7y25d0HTcDCyqfHztM0amkRNx IkqSKEkksBpx82ZPfovHOa87ZRlYqmkrTnpybqps+5yYusl8EsHr2gTu4GieWHeIqOL/ 6KYXsR+kb/4LVxpxC3xkB9CzHDiHCYOQqOkVpOEHEWFuHk2SlhlNssHUE0G+NWbjJTb4 hzcH0uC3zikJwipupwLEawa1fVoEukYnf9vBEvjh8YD1RdFTfdFz5nKhkUnYvgsSQ/8m Qh/MvnC9z5729S3ckKYXLuA2rAYU27/HOW/hfpH1Fo/GWGSnHSjloyHR8UjN8ocK2GRr zbqg== X-Google-DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=1e100.net; s=20161025; h=x-gm-message-state:mime-version:in-reply-to:references:from:date :message-id:subject:to:cc; bh=mWtqFigPyPAM3gDVeWrdBhVKzLGaiHVCWL+VKfCG/5M=; b=bMxnc1duKVnKvHk8F028glIztF/P+GhaHx4Gx/OaCM2SoWrDhVWTyMM6+jHNuvv6S0 qw+yjgJ2VrQ6acrOkobJZnRBEkdqfOIgKlU0gTC8AzWp53zMsrjRIGLUSaojxMR34svM zGntoKI6WHoKtNdy21m0YyKlGvPz0mQZXDB7vossiPnD7wuQght6AQf4whY2ltqiWq7V 7YvBERWOw7QYAQmZMPk2rIBcUpc7CZHxur5WzIi3ywZ4ndcn7fqOyfYZmWJ9rUCRlfis TGVvnfGtTj9Ag1ZjyYMuX3mPS/AnSpY+IAPevK/fG8Mx+kek4bN5lU7iI68SZK1QZqoB UCNg== X-Gm-Message-State: AIkVDXJLaJvBl3Sh8T76Kv1JLe2e4gwJv9vWTFPBYshBywlEs2R0zsM4dCtymCykkBENUOSiQydMVWFaObhGuw== X-Received: by 10.31.142.21 with SMTP id q21mr7677165vkd.157.1482225194629; Tue, 20 Dec 2016 01:13:14 -0800 (PST) MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.31.88.5 with HTTP; Tue, 20 Dec 2016 01:13:14 -0800 (PST) In-Reply-To: References: <838trh9npo.fsf@gnu.org> <83bmwc7yy1.fsf@gnu.org> <83bmwa7gyi.fsf@gnu.org> From: Dani Moncayo Date: Tue, 20 Dec 2016 10:13:14 +0100 Message-ID: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 X-Spam-Score: -0.0 (/) X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18 Precedence: list List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Sender: "Debbugs-submit" X-Spam-Score: -0.0 (/) > FWIW: IMO, the default behavior should be let the scroll-lock key > toggle the scroll-lock status. Definitely. For the record: I've just noticed the following inconsistency: The same Emacs (-Q) binary[1] have different behaviors on different MS-Windows variants. With w32-scroll-modifier set to nil: * On Windows 7 and 10, the scroll-lock key does _not_ toggle the setting. * On Windows 2003 server, the scroll-lock key _does_ toggle the setting. -- Dani Moncayo [1] Build from the emacs-25 branch on 2016-11-12. From unknown Sun Jun 22 08:02:47 2025 X-Loop: help-debbugs@gnu.org Subject: bug#25204: 25.1.50; I can't change the scroll-lock setting when Emacs has the focus Resent-From: Eli Zaretskii Original-Sender: "Debbugs-submit" Resent-CC: bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org Resent-Date: Tue, 20 Dec 2016 15:56:02 +0000 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-Sender: help-debbugs@gnu.org X-GNU-PR-Message: followup 25204 X-GNU-PR-Package: emacs X-GNU-PR-Keywords: To: Dani Moncayo Cc: 25204@debbugs.gnu.org Reply-To: Eli Zaretskii Received: via spool by 25204-submit@debbugs.gnu.org id=B25204.148224934117211 (code B ref 25204); Tue, 20 Dec 2016 15:56:02 +0000 Received: (at 25204) by debbugs.gnu.org; 20 Dec 2016 15:55:41 +0000 Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:49150 helo=debbugs.gnu.org) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1cJMlR-0004TX-7i for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Tue, 20 Dec 2016 10:55:41 -0500 Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([208.118.235.92]:40578) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1cJMlQ-0004TJ-Bm for 25204@debbugs.gnu.org; Tue, 20 Dec 2016 10:55:40 -0500 Received: from Debian-exim by eggs.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1cJMlG-0001h1-2p for 25204@debbugs.gnu.org; Tue, 20 Dec 2016 10:55:35 -0500 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.3.2 (2011-06-06) on eggs.gnu.org X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-3.1 required=5.0 tests=BAYES_20,RP_MATCHES_RCVD autolearn=disabled version=3.3.2 Received: from fencepost.gnu.org ([2001:4830:134:3::e]:33358) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1cJMlF-0001gw-Vi; Tue, 20 Dec 2016 10:55:30 -0500 Received: from 84.94.185.246.cable.012.net.il ([84.94.185.246]:2967 helo=home-c4e4a596f7) by fencepost.gnu.org with esmtpsa (TLS1.2:RSA_AES_256_CBC_SHA1:256) (Exim 4.82) (envelope-from ) id 1cJMlF-0003NW-Au; Tue, 20 Dec 2016 10:55:29 -0500 Date: Tue, 20 Dec 2016 17:55:24 +0200 Message-Id: <83zijq389f.fsf@gnu.org> From: Eli Zaretskii In-reply-to: (message from Dani Moncayo on Tue, 20 Dec 2016 10:13:14 +0100) References: <838trh9npo.fsf@gnu.org> <83bmwc7yy1.fsf@gnu.org> <83bmwa7gyi.fsf@gnu.org> X-detected-operating-system: by eggs.gnu.org: GNU/Linux 2.2.x-3.x [generic] X-Received-From: 2001:4830:134:3::e X-Spam-Score: -8.1 (--------) X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18 Precedence: list List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Sender: "Debbugs-submit" X-Spam-Score: -8.1 (--------) > From: Dani Moncayo > Date: Tue, 20 Dec 2016 10:13:14 +0100 > Cc: 25204@debbugs.gnu.org > > For the record: I've just noticed the following inconsistency: > > The same Emacs (-Q) binary[1] have different behaviors on different > MS-Windows variants. With w32-scroll-modifier set to nil: > * On Windows 7 and 10, the scroll-lock key does _not_ toggle the setting. > * On Windows 2003 server, the scroll-lock key _does_ toggle the setting. I cannot reproduce this here. I tried on XP and Windows 7, and on both I see the LED blink for a small fraction of a second. Maybe it's so fast on your systems that you don't notice? From unknown Sun Jun 22 08:02:47 2025 X-Loop: help-debbugs@gnu.org Subject: bug#25204: 25.1.50; I can't change the scroll-lock setting when Emacs has the focus Resent-From: Dani Moncayo Original-Sender: "Debbugs-submit" Resent-CC: bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org Resent-Date: Wed, 21 Dec 2016 07:56:01 +0000 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-Sender: help-debbugs@gnu.org X-GNU-PR-Message: followup 25204 X-GNU-PR-Package: emacs X-GNU-PR-Keywords: To: Eli Zaretskii Cc: 25204@debbugs.gnu.org Received: via spool by 25204-submit@debbugs.gnu.org id=B25204.14823069111454 (code B ref 25204); Wed, 21 Dec 2016 07:56:01 +0000 Received: (at 25204) by debbugs.gnu.org; 21 Dec 2016 07:55:11 +0000 Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:49625 helo=debbugs.gnu.org) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1cJbjz-0000NO-ID for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Wed, 21 Dec 2016 02:55:11 -0500 Received: from mail-ua0-f178.google.com ([209.85.217.178]:35452) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1cJbjy-0000N9-4y for 25204@debbugs.gnu.org; Wed, 21 Dec 2016 02:55:10 -0500 Received: by mail-ua0-f178.google.com with SMTP id 2so71020995uax.2 for <25204@debbugs.gnu.org>; Tue, 20 Dec 2016 23:55:10 -0800 (PST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20161025; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:from:date:message-id:subject:to :cc; bh=E33DgGQBhCoE+phzn1ypS6USbNXm/7afJEr9l1JP8+w=; b=CXRi8Dkcehe/85xWJhaD/bt4YDWUgoIr1rDkUBtAIlg5KiQ0evihCSxE4J3iQ1HdAY IfehlM6K/sx/AWOYD4+oZd2rMetXuhBhZpjCDk3OpC9ZRzD5v2/est+ji6umCRMviSZa kxtk47q67Ni82QnvJ6WEduIivbaYPWIyE65aOJaXu03/UxSJ8KbdFSNd/Yay1cIn/ZaM +iBnMtdha9WLXyVO0wW70kidZ0LOjcWEhTjrW58tVVymaCU+J4e008hHUAOWcqy9np+A gpWea0XuEFZaBSVXgza30rfo7MBXyl4iY01575ntwoddfdMAkdP11dZcfzK1mtwv0AcQ hhuQ== X-Google-DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=1e100.net; s=20161025; h=x-gm-message-state:mime-version:in-reply-to:references:from:date :message-id:subject:to:cc; bh=E33DgGQBhCoE+phzn1ypS6USbNXm/7afJEr9l1JP8+w=; b=MzD9Vu7SIych73lqogjnE8PeYjERqh6tHGK7a2dmBCjFqaJp27S7Oe0TwpIfnZmobP KNsDfkCELVC159mEClOW4D/Nz/fg/W5JIpD8AYTYHf8S/u/4gYURyGgupPysXI9r1N88 MaTS4bK9XQJEty66JKqqVU6ckGRiTTvTsqqc/MkyOdNpUtCzIxLyJkGaEBzUJS4sWKcB XQefTIF8UJd6cjRfORE/4Lm9kKougmBqUtt3cQsGCC5Tx12YoF5FqmaM/on9iy5/R7Fy KeLgjsjjvR4UKBDnDzveARkvFLymtdUCapJRDMpLI+VvUso/QLwFyCv8MNr2LA6BgiEL KPXg== X-Gm-Message-State: AIkVDXJHV65smn62khNhebONUz252zNJdQbaMqwQrGPB4iD8ofTXi5A0F2HZ9JWpOQCD9N5lnJ+vLDF8weKcxA== X-Received: by 10.176.4.101 with SMTP id 92mr2324847uav.15.1482306904434; Tue, 20 Dec 2016 23:55:04 -0800 (PST) MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.31.88.5 with HTTP; Tue, 20 Dec 2016 23:55:03 -0800 (PST) In-Reply-To: <83zijq389f.fsf@gnu.org> References: <838trh9npo.fsf@gnu.org> <83bmwc7yy1.fsf@gnu.org> <83bmwa7gyi.fsf@gnu.org> <83zijq389f.fsf@gnu.org> From: Dani Moncayo Date: Wed, 21 Dec 2016 08:55:03 +0100 Message-ID: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 X-Spam-Score: -0.0 (/) X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18 Precedence: list List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Sender: "Debbugs-submit" X-Spam-Score: -0.0 (/) >> For the record: I've just noticed the following inconsistency: >> >> The same Emacs (-Q) binary[1] have different behaviors on different >> MS-Windows variants. With w32-scroll-modifier set to nil: >> * On Windows 7 and 10, the scroll-lock key does _not_ toggle the setting. >> * On Windows 2003 server, the scroll-lock key _does_ toggle the setting. > > I cannot reproduce this here. I tried on XP and Windows 7, and on > both I see the LED blink for a small fraction of a second. Maybe it's > so fast on your systems that you don't notice? No. What you see is the same I see on Windows 7 and 10. When I said that the key "does not toggle the setting", I was referring to the final outcome. But the LED indeed blinks. But as I said, from a Windows 2003 server[1], the scroll-lock key _does_ toggle the key. Hence the inconsistency. -- Dani Moncayo [1] FWIW: the windows 2003 server is a remote machine I access to, via remote desktop, from my local windows 7 system. From unknown Sun Jun 22 08:02:47 2025 X-Loop: help-debbugs@gnu.org Subject: bug#25204: 25.1.50; I can't change the scroll-lock setting when Emacs has the focus Resent-From: Eli Zaretskii Original-Sender: "Debbugs-submit" Resent-CC: bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org Resent-Date: Wed, 21 Dec 2016 17:22:01 +0000 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-Sender: help-debbugs@gnu.org X-GNU-PR-Message: followup 25204 X-GNU-PR-Package: emacs X-GNU-PR-Keywords: To: Dani Moncayo Cc: 25204@debbugs.gnu.org Reply-To: Eli Zaretskii Received: via spool by 25204-submit@debbugs.gnu.org id=B25204.14823408845355 (code B ref 25204); Wed, 21 Dec 2016 17:22:01 +0000 Received: (at 25204) by debbugs.gnu.org; 21 Dec 2016 17:21:24 +0000 Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:50450 helo=debbugs.gnu.org) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1cJkZw-0001OI-7g for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Wed, 21 Dec 2016 12:21:24 -0500 Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([208.118.235.92]:45612) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1cJkZu-0001O4-5N for 25204@debbugs.gnu.org; Wed, 21 Dec 2016 12:21:22 -0500 Received: from Debian-exim by eggs.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1cJkZl-0005bc-Of for 25204@debbugs.gnu.org; Wed, 21 Dec 2016 12:21:16 -0500 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.3.2 (2011-06-06) on eggs.gnu.org X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-2.3 required=5.0 tests=BAYES_50,RP_MATCHES_RCVD autolearn=disabled version=3.3.2 Received: from fencepost.gnu.org ([2001:4830:134:3::e]:52042) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1cJkZl-0005bY-LI; Wed, 21 Dec 2016 12:21:13 -0500 Received: from 84.94.185.246.cable.012.net.il ([84.94.185.246]:4170 helo=home-c4e4a596f7) by fencepost.gnu.org with esmtpsa (TLS1.2:RSA_AES_256_CBC_SHA1:256) (Exim 4.82) (envelope-from ) id 1cJkZj-0005lE-6f; Wed, 21 Dec 2016 12:21:13 -0500 Date: Wed, 21 Dec 2016 19:20:34 +0200 Message-Id: <837f6t2o7x.fsf@gnu.org> From: Eli Zaretskii In-reply-to: (message from Dani Moncayo on Wed, 21 Dec 2016 08:55:03 +0100) References: <838trh9npo.fsf@gnu.org> <83bmwc7yy1.fsf@gnu.org> <83bmwa7gyi.fsf@gnu.org> <83zijq389f.fsf@gnu.org> X-detected-operating-system: by eggs.gnu.org: GNU/Linux 2.2.x-3.x [generic] X-Received-From: 2001:4830:134:3::e X-Spam-Score: -8.1 (--------) X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18 Precedence: list List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Sender: "Debbugs-submit" X-Spam-Score: -8.1 (--------) > From: Dani Moncayo > Date: Wed, 21 Dec 2016 08:55:03 +0100 > Cc: 25204@debbugs.gnu.org > > >> For the record: I've just noticed the following inconsistency: > >> > >> The same Emacs (-Q) binary[1] have different behaviors on different > >> MS-Windows variants. With w32-scroll-modifier set to nil: > >> * On Windows 7 and 10, the scroll-lock key does _not_ toggle the setting. > >> * On Windows 2003 server, the scroll-lock key _does_ toggle the setting. > > > > I cannot reproduce this here. I tried on XP and Windows 7, and on > > both I see the LED blink for a small fraction of a second. Maybe it's > > so fast on your systems that you don't notice? > > No. What you see is the same I see on Windows 7 and 10. When I said > that the key "does not toggle the setting", I was referring to the > final outcome. But the LED indeed blinks. > > But as I said, from a Windows 2003 server[1], the scroll-lock key > _does_ toggle the key. Hence the inconsistency. There's no inconsistency on my machines, including XP (which is roughly equivalent to your Windows 2003). On all of the machines I tried, the LED blinks and Scroll Lock remains in its previous state, as long as w32-scroll-modifier is nil. Maybe that W2003 system has some software installed that causes this? From unknown Sun Jun 22 08:02:47 2025 X-Loop: help-debbugs@gnu.org Subject: bug#25204: 25.1.50; I can't change the scroll-lock setting when Emacs has the focus Resent-From: Dani Moncayo Original-Sender: "Debbugs-submit" Resent-CC: bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org Resent-Date: Wed, 21 Dec 2016 18:56:01 +0000 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-Sender: help-debbugs@gnu.org X-GNU-PR-Message: followup 25204 X-GNU-PR-Package: emacs X-GNU-PR-Keywords: To: Eli Zaretskii Cc: 25204@debbugs.gnu.org Received: via spool by 25204-submit@debbugs.gnu.org id=B25204.148234650414005 (code B ref 25204); Wed, 21 Dec 2016 18:56:01 +0000 Received: (at 25204) by debbugs.gnu.org; 21 Dec 2016 18:55:04 +0000 Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:50507 helo=debbugs.gnu.org) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1cJm2a-0003dp-8P for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Wed, 21 Dec 2016 13:55:04 -0500 Received: from mail-vk0-f42.google.com ([209.85.213.42]:33726) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1cJm2Y-0003dG-JO for 25204@debbugs.gnu.org; Wed, 21 Dec 2016 13:55:02 -0500 Received: by mail-vk0-f42.google.com with SMTP id 137so154337038vkl.0 for <25204@debbugs.gnu.org>; Wed, 21 Dec 2016 10:55:02 -0800 (PST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20161025; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:from:date:message-id:subject:to :cc; bh=Xq54msNyLeFWVqw2zlYXUHKRF1Z1m/GoIOMcIYSVCBg=; b=q5OTRZSNofJC0WO9xm9bxMSfwW02qZ7mOrEw7d0cgpG+9sih5QJJ13MPLq+OZ9tbFM IwFt9KpML8J0C17uiACbhSr0rRQIyV0oIJ3BIfuO74ZrCbNCrtrvV4b0noeRpCbeRyr/ 18tAJviK+TuWITCAlKrX40q+7e5cWSMpPQ4HORUe8TBmbXb+vkW0/OI4mJZLYXIkIRos Fqb1H6W0OP3KkPOKRU28r4A/01tlJOhhnvuMjc05MGDjG0FtAmJXwpGyoX8X6cxrNkRj T6yza2Q2P91x5zOivtFHsun11W8dvbDV3epDiItVkGVTBS5LJY9gcbEmwsnGibOanpDK v0Yg== X-Google-DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=1e100.net; s=20161025; h=x-gm-message-state:mime-version:in-reply-to:references:from:date :message-id:subject:to:cc; bh=Xq54msNyLeFWVqw2zlYXUHKRF1Z1m/GoIOMcIYSVCBg=; b=kWUtCg1YZzE8Ilja2pBpGoB5Xg0WRgYekvZjw3kCH/sQtw4Bi1df/kEVt39w1yTZs6 5y9FWF8G5iYOwh5xEKscfJ2Py/KVQlaZatXnks0r+HW31GHl6wbWPkOS8I/WeSymDkRN RUdU4VIv6/H+Ko9mpG/5EDSv4uIhbIICn49t2nu9IBjd7hheL0OpW5bbZNQE29vqzTh3 csmajKasYTHeiva1aJiFaHN4bNh2iE/0oJ3t1yy/sRInb/q/HyC6yJ6kgVz2caWlOoFH 7l67oqttawyCA/9RvAADw5OIDulqgLD3RugA88qjqQDtWLJf0BES+9tNPIiBI1Ub5XlL w/OA== X-Gm-Message-State: AIkVDXK6FV2VaiyVVSbeC8qaZsd1U3DF/sfrzW90hd87+ufMKVJWRuiOOU6uKPvboDYNBOSkF41SbkmepRx3Mw== X-Received: by 10.31.49.216 with SMTP id x207mr2499164vkx.82.1482346496941; Wed, 21 Dec 2016 10:54:56 -0800 (PST) MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.31.88.5 with HTTP; Wed, 21 Dec 2016 10:54:56 -0800 (PST) In-Reply-To: <837f6t2o7x.fsf@gnu.org> References: <838trh9npo.fsf@gnu.org> <83bmwc7yy1.fsf@gnu.org> <83bmwa7gyi.fsf@gnu.org> <83zijq389f.fsf@gnu.org> <837f6t2o7x.fsf@gnu.org> From: Dani Moncayo Date: Wed, 21 Dec 2016 19:54:56 +0100 Message-ID: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 X-Spam-Score: -0.0 (/) X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18 Precedence: list List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Sender: "Debbugs-submit" X-Spam-Score: -0.0 (/) > There's no inconsistency on my machines, including XP (which is > roughly equivalent to your Windows 2003). On all of the machines I > tried, the LED blinks and Scroll Lock remains in its previous state, > as long as w32-scroll-modifier is nil. > > Maybe that W2003 system has some software installed that causes this? Could be (I don't know). Or maybe being a remote system managed via remote desktop could make a difference. Anyway, if no one else can reproduce this, let's forget about it (at least for now). Thanks. -- Dani Moncayo