From unknown Mon Aug 11 21:15:07 2025 X-Loop: help-debbugs@gnu.org Subject: bug#25151: 26.0.50; read-char prompt does not minibuffer face Resent-From: Mark Oteiza Original-Sender: "Debbugs-submit" Resent-CC: bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org Resent-Date: Fri, 09 Dec 2016 20:41:02 +0000 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-Sender: help-debbugs@gnu.org X-GNU-PR-Message: report 25151 X-GNU-PR-Package: emacs X-GNU-PR-Keywords: To: 25151@debbugs.gnu.org X-Debbugs-Original-To: bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org Received: via spool by submit@debbugs.gnu.org id=B.148131601632275 (code B ref -1); Fri, 09 Dec 2016 20:41:02 +0000 Received: (at submit) by debbugs.gnu.org; 9 Dec 2016 20:40:16 +0000 Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:36290 helo=debbugs.gnu.org) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1cFRxn-0008ON-Dd for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Fri, 09 Dec 2016 15:40:15 -0500 Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([208.118.235.92]:57572) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1cFRnn-0007Wf-L4 for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Fri, 09 Dec 2016 15:29:56 -0500 Received: from Debian-exim by eggs.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1cFQDk-0002Bx-8a for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Fri, 09 Dec 2016 13:48:36 -0500 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.3.2 (2011-06-06) on eggs.gnu.org X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=0.8 required=5.0 tests=BAYES_50,T_DKIM_INVALID autolearn=disabled version=3.3.2 Received: from lists.gnu.org ([2001:4830:134:3::11]:40727) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS1.0:RSA_AES_256_CBC_SHA1:32) (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1cFQDk-0002Bt-5d for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Fri, 09 Dec 2016 13:48:36 -0500 Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([2001:4830:134:3::10]:56584) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1cFQDj-00026U-76 for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Fri, 09 Dec 2016 13:48:35 -0500 Received: from Debian-exim by eggs.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1cFQDf-0002B3-BK for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Fri, 09 Dec 2016 13:48:35 -0500 Received: from mail-qt0-f174.google.com ([209.85.216.174]:35434) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS1.0:RSA_AES_128_CBC_SHA1:16) (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1cFQDf-00026T-52 for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Fri, 09 Dec 2016 13:48:31 -0500 Received: by mail-qt0-f174.google.com with SMTP id c47so24265404qtc.2 for ; Fri, 09 Dec 2016 10:48:09 -0800 (PST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=udel-edu.20150623.gappssmtp.com; s=20150623; h=from:to:subject:date:message-id:mime-version; bh=jVBWlM7ri0I4sEsEGayNT14XmfX1o+UOyZzhDKckLR0=; b=BxiwIKyjaN2sb5dUdcheufpnJi7NF3PX5n6bPqtpQsxcDURM8/dN4zK4VSEkMk9usP qWZvzFwAcqnSfvLcUruTf3aIbU2/Uuv93EbHe5IL6Nm6qw2LzQYMkl2RhAmkbdeapy2N lU/AVrqY8cHv1v9RqqTdmLx/HAp3u2D88IRC2AuGUJAVL90XGCl5TE0ZlBg/3G7+I/Sx XjA5lEx67yfrl8Naez98yajrjOGt1X6oOTGzpSevcGZZXUXwuNFsQQJRwolyuOIgxk7+ 7HtobiAUZZRepblTuVheB4Kcw8LieY6laZcc1Gwjk0D1XzYavTUd//VqzTIM+d0fvfPN HDxw== X-Google-DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=1e100.net; s=20130820; h=x-gm-message-state:from:to:subject:date:message-id:mime-version; bh=jVBWlM7ri0I4sEsEGayNT14XmfX1o+UOyZzhDKckLR0=; b=ZLIOXsVWucxP0dhrlSZ+xQLBOZfFImICo7sjRs+lULGMpsEkUgt2mh26LvpyhG5Zu+ 3PQiB3L05M98wPFM2cs+TCIj3/UAJ/obbFOX9ViYgI4ASeZ6lscu/HwNiEM60y6QI8Uh /+s8y+ew3RcN5IynkQ+QqLwEMFN705U6k8OqdIinIbgqkq4qD3su8H9KJjF/mZVNM4ot QYIn9vuRHGaw3Ttan+x4/GhyqgwOLsKqLIud+p/PORx/T33xgWnf0QYzR1ZktklRpbPA WBahVb3sBt/ByhN5GqWwUVmARG2R0tUGh95U7bDxqLW53RDrwyzvdGewDwH7MEPMxga5 c+Sw== X-Gm-Message-State: AKaTC022X+beUie48vnYbuHOhKZ/3JVkR5Wv/QLHUXNbTnr9E0PLBuEHrs+e2eummddcVcqp X-Received: by 10.200.39.230 with SMTP id x35mr70437631qtx.259.1481309228747; Fri, 09 Dec 2016 10:47:08 -0800 (PST) Received: from holos.localdomain ([69.250.222.218]) by smtp.gmail.com with ESMTPSA id g79sm20306639qke.26.2016.12.09.10.47.07 for (version=TLS1_2 cipher=ECDHE-RSA-AES128-GCM-SHA256 bits=128/128); Fri, 09 Dec 2016 10:47:08 -0800 (PST) Received: by holos.localdomain (Postfix, from userid 1000) id 69BF060D63; Fri, 9 Dec 2016 13:47:07 -0500 (EST) From: Mark Oteiza Date: Fri, 09 Dec 2016 13:47:07 -0500 Message-ID: <87vautey8k.fsf@udel.edu> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain X-detected-operating-system: by eggs.gnu.org: GNU/Linux 2.2.x-3.x [generic] [fuzzy] X-detected-operating-system: by eggs.gnu.org: GNU/Linux 2.6.x X-Received-From: 2001:4830:134:3::11 X-Spam-Score: -4.4 (----) X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18 Precedence: list List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Sender: "Debbugs-submit" X-Spam-Score: -4.4 (----) Hi. From -Q: 1. M-z The zap-to-char (hence read-char) prompt is not in the minibuffer face. In GNU Emacs 26.0.50.1 (x86_64-unknown-linux-gnu, X toolkit, Xaw scroll bars) of 2016-12-07 built on logos Repository revision: 2766c607b0b0d201be5b9b1d5eb291415e5980d8 From unknown Mon Aug 11 21:15:07 2025 X-Loop: help-debbugs@gnu.org Subject: bug#25151: 26.0.50; read-char prompt does not minibuffer face Resent-From: Drew Adams Original-Sender: "Debbugs-submit" Resent-CC: bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org Resent-Date: Fri, 09 Dec 2016 21:11:02 +0000 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-Sender: help-debbugs@gnu.org X-GNU-PR-Message: followup 25151 X-GNU-PR-Package: emacs X-GNU-PR-Keywords: To: Mark Oteiza , 25151@debbugs.gnu.org Received: via spool by 25151-submit@debbugs.gnu.org id=B25151.148131781515784 (code B ref 25151); Fri, 09 Dec 2016 21:11:02 +0000 Received: (at 25151) by debbugs.gnu.org; 9 Dec 2016 21:10:15 +0000 Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:36310 helo=debbugs.gnu.org) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1cFSQp-00046R-DH for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Fri, 09 Dec 2016 16:10:15 -0500 Received: from aserp1050.oracle.com ([141.146.126.70]:22759) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1cFSQj-00045R-QI for 25151@debbugs.gnu.org; Fri, 09 Dec 2016 16:10:10 -0500 Received: from aserp1040.oracle.com (aserp1040.oracle.com [141.146.126.69]) by aserp1050.oracle.com (Sentrion-MTA-4.3.2/Sentrion-MTA-4.3.2) with ESMTP id uB9LA34U013791 (version=TLSv1.2 cipher=ECDHE-RSA-AES256-GCM-SHA384 bits=256 verify=OK) for <25151@debbugs.gnu.org>; Fri, 9 Dec 2016 21:10:03 GMT Received: from aserv0022.oracle.com (aserv0022.oracle.com [141.146.126.234]) by aserp1040.oracle.com (Sentrion-MTA-4.3.2/Sentrion-MTA-4.3.2) with ESMTP id uB9LA2PC023633 (version=TLSv1.2 cipher=ECDHE-RSA-AES256-GCM-SHA384 bits=256 verify=OK); Fri, 9 Dec 2016 21:10:02 GMT Received: from aserv0121.oracle.com (aserv0121.oracle.com [141.146.126.235]) by aserv0022.oracle.com (8.14.4/8.14.4) with ESMTP id uB9LA2uW021897 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA bits=256 verify=OK); Fri, 9 Dec 2016 21:10:02 GMT Received: from abhmp0010.oracle.com (abhmp0010.oracle.com [141.146.116.16]) by aserv0121.oracle.com (8.13.8/8.13.8) with ESMTP id uB9L9x59015135; Fri, 9 Dec 2016 21:10:00 GMT MIME-Version: 1.0 Message-ID: Date: Fri, 9 Dec 2016 13:09:58 -0800 (PST) From: Drew Adams References: <87vautey8k.fsf@udel.edu> In-Reply-To: <87vautey8k.fsf@udel.edu> X-Priority: 3 X-Mailer: Oracle Beehive Extensions for Outlook 2.0.1.9.1 (1003210) [OL 12.0.6753.5000 (x86)] Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-Source-IP: aserp1040.oracle.com [141.146.126.69] X-Spam-Score: -5.3 (-----) X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18 Precedence: list List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Sender: "Debbugs-submit" X-Spam-Score: -5.3 (-----) This raises a good question. I guess you are suggesting that face `minibuffer-prompt' should be used here? If so, is that face intended to be a prompt face in general (i.e., THE prompt face, by default) or just a _minibuffer_ prompt face? It might make sense for the faces for other kinds of prompt to look the same, by default, as `minibuffer-prompt'. (Or it might not.) But according to its name, face `minibuffer-prompt' is=20 specific to prompting when reading input in the minibuffer. (And that's not the case for `read-char', `y-or-n-p', etc.) It could be decided that `minibuffer-prompt' is to be used for prompting in general. In that case it really should be called something like `prompt'. But I think it would make more sense to create a separate face `prompt', and (perhaps) let `minibuffer-prompt' inherit from it. Some users might, in particular, want to see a difference when they are prompted and reading is NOT from the minibuffer. Functions that read characters without using the minibuffer can confuse users, and a difference in prompt face could give them an idea that input is being read differently. Recently Emacs Dev decided to just add face `minibuffer-prompt' to the prompt for `y-or-n-p'. I'd sooner see a separate face be used for non-minibuffer input prompting (even if the default appearance might be the same). From unknown Mon Aug 11 21:15:07 2025 X-Loop: help-debbugs@gnu.org Subject: bug#25151: 26.0.50; read-char prompt does not minibuffer face Resent-From: Lars Ingebrigtsen Original-Sender: "Debbugs-submit" Resent-CC: bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org Resent-Date: Sat, 06 Feb 2021 11:45:02 +0000 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-Sender: help-debbugs@gnu.org X-GNU-PR-Message: followup 25151 X-GNU-PR-Package: emacs X-GNU-PR-Keywords: To: Mark Oteiza Cc: 25151@debbugs.gnu.org Received: via spool by 25151-submit@debbugs.gnu.org id=B25151.161261190125428 (code B ref 25151); Sat, 06 Feb 2021 11:45:02 +0000 Received: (at 25151) by debbugs.gnu.org; 6 Feb 2021 11:45:01 +0000 Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:45289 helo=debbugs.gnu.org) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1l8M1N-0006c4-Az for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Sat, 06 Feb 2021 06:45:01 -0500 Received: from quimby.gnus.org ([95.216.78.240]:51954) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1l8M1L-0006br-Sp for 25151@debbugs.gnu.org; Sat, 06 Feb 2021 06:45:00 -0500 DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; q=dns/txt; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gnus.org; s=20200322; h=Content-Type:MIME-Version:Message-ID:In-Reply-To:Date: References:Subject:Cc:To:From:Sender:Reply-To:Content-Transfer-Encoding: Content-ID:Content-Description:Resent-Date:Resent-From:Resent-Sender: Resent-To:Resent-Cc:Resent-Message-ID:List-Id:List-Help:List-Unsubscribe: List-Subscribe:List-Post:List-Owner:List-Archive; bh=+eJgpdfbKGDpXsGgL0W0huDyoZzhmULG6Cww/7RbClM=; b=TGvQFjTv5iYqgdU4mqtoWtWbkc OnLzoZLdZ1rYAhfd3k0L6Sj6qitPNy+q1SpyLR0Dd6Bp394i7XtRI8utr6oqNm7JuXWaMz1z2pgVO ZZ2WmwCZWqGwOhASbk+nxEiRdILPZEeFZko8OystU8SsABhY+RMzzj/OnYkmz2rcFIu4=; Received: from cm-84.212.202.86.getinternet.no ([84.212.202.86] helo=xo) by quimby.gnus.org with esmtpsa (TLS1.3:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.92) (envelope-from ) id 1l8M1B-00058w-JA; Sat, 06 Feb 2021 12:44:53 +0100 From: Lars Ingebrigtsen References: <87vautey8k.fsf@udel.edu> X-Now-Playing: Thomas Mery's _Hallonsaft_: "Real Shift" Date: Sat, 06 Feb 2021 12:44:48 +0100 In-Reply-To: <87vautey8k.fsf@udel.edu> (Mark Oteiza's message of "Fri, 09 Dec 2016 13:47:07 -0500") Message-ID: <874kipcte7.fsf@gnus.org> User-Agent: Gnus/5.13 (Gnus v5.13) Emacs/28.0.50 (gnu/linux) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain X-Spam-Report: Spam detection software, running on the system "quimby.gnus.org", has NOT identified this incoming email as spam. The original message has been attached to this so you can view it or label similar future email. If you have any questions, see @@CONTACT_ADDRESS@@ for details. Content preview: Mark Oteiza writes: > Hi. From -Q: > > 1. M-z > > The zap-to-char (hence read-char) prompt is not in the minibuffer face. I can reproduce this in Emacs 26.1, but not in Emacs 28, so I guess this has been fixed in the years since this was reported, and I'm closing this bug report. If this is still an issue, please respond [...] Content analysis details: (-2.9 points, 5.0 required) pts rule name description ---- ---------------------- -------------------------------------------------- -1.0 ALL_TRUSTED Passed through trusted hosts only via SMTP -1.9 BAYES_00 BODY: Bayes spam probability is 0 to 1% [score: 0.0000] X-Spam-Score: 0.0 (/) X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18 Precedence: list List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Sender: "Debbugs-submit" X-Spam-Score: -1.0 (-) Mark Oteiza writes: > Hi. From -Q: > > 1. M-z > > The zap-to-char (hence read-char) prompt is not in the minibuffer face. I can reproduce this in Emacs 26.1, but not in Emacs 28, so I guess this has been fixed in the years since this was reported, and I'm closing this bug report. 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