From unknown Fri Jun 20 07:16:57 2025 Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: MIME-tools 5.509 (Entity 5.509) Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 From: bug#24917 <24917@debbugs.gnu.org> To: bug#24917 <24917@debbugs.gnu.org> Subject: Status: 24.5; M-x manual-entry caching Reply-To: bug#24917 <24917@debbugs.gnu.org> Date: Fri, 20 Jun 2025 14:16:57 +0000 retitle 24917 24.5; M-x manual-entry caching reassign 24917 emacs submitter 24917 Ed Avis severity 24917 wishlist tag 24917 wontfix thanks From debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Thu Nov 10 02:55:11 2016 Received: (at submit) by debbugs.gnu.org; 10 Nov 2016 07:55:11 +0000 Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:51599 helo=debbugs.gnu.org) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1c4kCU-00039f-Of for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Thu, 10 Nov 2016 02:55:11 -0500 Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([208.118.235.92]:35747) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1c4kCS-00039T-SZ for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Thu, 10 Nov 2016 02:55:09 -0500 Received: from Debian-exim by eggs.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1c4kCM-0000Xg-D1 for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Thu, 10 Nov 2016 02:55:03 -0500 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.3.2 (2011-06-06) on eggs.gnu.org X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=0.8 required=5.0 tests=BAYES_50 autolearn=disabled version=3.3.2 Received: from lists.gnu.org ([2001:4830:134:3::11]:43593) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS1.0:RSA_AES_256_CBC_SHA1:32) (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1c4kCM-0000Xa-9I for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Thu, 10 Nov 2016 02:55:02 -0500 Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([2001:4830:134:3::10]:54949) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1c4kCK-00051Z-Po for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Thu, 10 Nov 2016 02:55:01 -0500 Received: from Debian-exim by eggs.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1c4kCG-0000WN-TA for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Thu, 10 Nov 2016 02:55:00 -0500 Received: from mail1.bemta3.messagelabs.com ([195.245.230.177]:61028) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS1.0:DHE_RSA_AES_256_CBC_SHA1:32) (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1c4kCG-0000VD-MR for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Thu, 10 Nov 2016 02:54:56 -0500 Received: from [85.158.137.68] by server-17.bemta-3.messagelabs.com id 4B/07-31715-CC724285; Thu, 10 Nov 2016 07:54:52 +0000 X-Brightmail-Tracker: H4sIAAAAAAAAA+NgFvrILMWRWlGSWpSXmKPExsWi+sWpUve0ukq EQeMcM4vvB6ocGD3appkFMEaxZuYl5VcksGZsOnyUreCFcsWNnxdYGhiPy3cxcnIICaxilPhx Tb2LkQvIPsgo0fR1OjNIgk1AUaJtzjT2LkYODhEBaYmTfSwgYWEBdYmJ0w+wgdgsAqoSE97vZ wexeQW0JC4dO8YIYQtKnJz5BKyeWUBC4uCLF8wQu+Qk7rT9Yp7AyDULSdksJGULGJlWMWoUpx aVpRbpGlnoJRVlpmeU5CZm5ugaGhjr5aYWFyemp+YkJhXrJefnbmIEeryegYFxB2P7Cb9DjJI cTEqivOL3lCOE+JLyUyozEosz4otKc1KLDzHKcHAoSfAaq6lECAkWpaanVqRl5gBDDyYtwcGj JMKrAZLmLS5IzC3OTIdInWI05niz6+UDJo4pez8/YBJiycvPS5US5/0MUioAUppRmgc3CBYTl xhlpYR5GRkYGIR4ClKLcjNLUOVfMYpzMCoJ864BmcKTmVcCt+8V0ClMQKdUxSiAnFKSiJCSam BUqHr07y/fBAcDix8tO0tk/r8TNjJKNF2j5n/sgkOd/C7207G/r09Zo52kJeIeP0Hbp2rurMv PL1pMzRS8+y/gjHaTAXP3ra2LmlOPLPzK7ON+UOVY7W6hot3v5y9/GvmO+WCFzN7G/pOubRU+ 5S4Ge+/+dP62k2XTxcQVB/qnXnH4XXr8vrWEEktxRqKhFnNRcSIAhdG4woQCAAA= X-Env-Sender: eda@waniasset.com X-Msg-Ref: server-4.tower-31.messagelabs.com!1478764489!12078752!1 X-Originating-IP: [37.244.66.121] X-StarScan-Received: X-StarScan-Version: 9.0.13; banners=waniasset.com,-,- X-VirusChecked: Checked Received: (qmail 26885 invoked from network); 10 Nov 2016 07:54:50 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO smtp.waniasset.com) (37.244.66.121) by server-4.tower-31.messagelabs.com with AES256-SHA encrypted SMTP; 10 Nov 2016 07:54:50 -0000 Received: from WCL-EX13MBX.wcl.local (10.45.7.22) by WCL-EX13MBX.wcl.local (10.45.7.22) with Microsoft SMTP Server (TLS) id 15.0.1178.4; Thu, 10 Nov 2016 07:54:48 +0000 Received: from wcl-linux04.wcl.local (10.45.7.86) by WCL-EX13MBX.wcl.local (10.45.7.22) with Microsoft SMTP Server (TLS) id 15.0.1178.4 via Frontend Transport; Thu, 10 Nov 2016 07:54:47 +0000 From: Ed Avis To: Subject: 24.5; M-x manual-entry caching Date: Thu, 10 Nov 2016 07:54:47 +0000 Message-ID: <86shqz4vnc.fsf@waniasset.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain X-detected-operating-system: by eggs.gnu.org: GNU/Linux 2.6.x X-detected-operating-system: by eggs.gnu.org: GNU/Linux 2.6.x X-Received-From: 2001:4830:134:3::11 X-Spam-Score: -4.0 (----) X-Debbugs-Envelope-To: submit X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18 Precedence: list List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Sender: "Debbugs-submit" X-Spam-Score: -4.0 (----) M-x manual-entry will generate a formatted manual page. If you request the same page later then it will switch to the existing buffer if open. But the manual page might have changed in the meantime. Could Emacs check the timestamp on the file in /usr/share/man and rerun 'man' if so? In GNU Emacs 24.5.1 (x86_64-redhat-linux-gnu, GTK+ Version 3.18.9) of 2016-04-11 on buildvm-25.phx2.fedoraproject.org Configured using: `configure --build=x86_64-redhat-linux-gnu --host=x86_64-redhat-linux-gnu --program-prefix= --disable-dependency-tracking --prefix=/usr --exec-prefix=/usr --bindir=/usr/bin --sbindir=/usr/sbin --sysconfdir=/etc --datadir=/usr/share --includedir=/usr/include --libdir=/usr/lib64 --libexecdir=/usr/libexec --localstatedir=/var --sharedstatedir=/var/lib --mandir=/usr/share/man --infodir=/usr/share/info --with-dbus --with-gif --with-jpeg --with-png --with-rsvg --with-tiff --with-xft --with-xpm --with-x-toolkit=gtk3 --with-gpm=no build_alias=x86_64-redhat-linux-gnu host_alias=x86_64-redhat-linux-gnu 'CFLAGS=-DMAIL_USE_LOCKF -O2 -g -pipe -Wall -Werror=format-security -Wp,-D_FORTIFY_SOURCE=2 -fexceptions -fstack-protector-strong --param=ssp-buffer-size=4 -grecord-gcc-switches -specs=/usr/lib/rpm/redhat/redhat-hardened-cc1 -m64 -mtune=generic' LDFLAGS=-Wl,-z,relro' Important settings: value of $LC_COLLATE: C value of $LC_CTYPE: en_GB.UTF-8 value of $LC_MESSAGES: en_GB.UTF-8 value of $LC_MONETARY: en_GB.UTF-8 value of $LC_NUMERIC: en_GB.UTF-8 value of $LC_TIME: en_GB.UTF-8 value of $LANG: en_GB.UTF-8 locale-coding-system: utf-8-unix Major mode: Fundamental Minor modes in effect: diff-auto-refine-mode: t show-paren-mode: t shell-dirtrack-mode: t tooltip-mode: t mouse-wheel-mode: t file-name-shadow-mode: t global-font-lock-mode: t font-lock-mode: t auto-composition-mode: t auto-encryption-mode: t auto-compression-mode: t line-number-mode: t transient-mark-mode: t Recent messages: Mark set [3 times] Auto-saving...done Quit [2 times] Saving file /home/eda/git_working/repos/linux/crontab.tradingsystems.wcl-linux-live... Wrote /home/eda/git_working/repos/linux/crontab.tradingsystems.wcl-linux-live Finding changes in /home/eda/git_working/repos/linux/crontab.tradingsystems.wcl-linux-live...done Mark set Press C-c C-c when you are done editing. Enter a change comment. Type C-c C-c when done Checking in /home/eda/git_working/repos/linux/crontab.tradingsystems.wcl-linux-live...done Quit [2 times] Load-path shadows: None found. 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The original message has been attached to this so you can view it or label similar future email. If you have any questions, see @@CONTACT_ADDRESS@@ for details. Content preview: Ed Avis writes: > M-x manual-entry will generate a formatted manual page. If you request > the same page later then it will switch to the existing buffer if open. > But the manual page might have changed in the meant [...] Content analysis details: (-2.9 points, 5.0 required) pts rule name description ---- ---------------------- -------------------------------------------------- -1.0 ALL_TRUSTED Passed through trusted hosts only via SMTP -1.9 BAYES_00 BODY: Bayes spam probability is 0 to 1% [score: 0.0000] X-Spam-Score: 0.0 (/) X-Debbugs-Envelope-To: 24917 Cc: 24917@debbugs.gnu.org X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18 Precedence: list List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Sender: "Debbugs-submit" X-Spam-Score: -1.0 (-) Ed Avis writes: > M-x manual-entry will generate a formatted manual page. If you request > the same page later then it will switch to the existing buffer if open. > But the manual page might have changed in the meantime. Could Emacs > check the timestamp on the file in /usr/share/man and rerun 'man' if so? I don't think there's any practical way that manual-entry can do that -- it just calls the "man" command, and it roots out where the manual file actually is. So Emacs doesn't know the location of the man file. And it's a pretty obscure situation -- manual pages seldom change (unless you're writing one, and then you can kill the man buffer manually). So I'm closing this as a "wontfix". -- (domestic pets only, the antidote for overdose, milk.) bloggy blog: http://lars.ingebrigtsen.no From debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Sat Jul 27 08:30:24 2019 Received: (at control) by debbugs.gnu.org; 27 Jul 2019 12:30:24 +0000 Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:43827 helo=debbugs.gnu.org) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1hrLqC-0005jX-0j for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Sat, 27 Jul 2019 08:30:24 -0400 Received: from quimby.gnus.org ([80.91.231.51]:37506) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1hrLq9-0005gN-MV for control@debbugs.gnu.org; Sat, 27 Jul 2019 08:30:22 -0400 Received: from cm-84.212.202.86.getinternet.no ([84.212.202.86] helo=marnie) by quimby.gnus.org with esmtpsa (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.89) (envelope-from ) id 1hrLq7-0008Ib-4D for control@debbugs.gnu.org; Sat, 27 Jul 2019 14:30:21 +0200 Date: Sat, 27 Jul 2019 14:30:18 +0200 Message-Id: <878ssjirs5.fsf@mouse.gnus.org> To: control@debbugs.gnu.org From: Lars Ingebrigtsen Subject: control message for bug #24917 X-Spam-Report: Spam detection software, running on the system "quimby.gnus.org", has NOT identified this incoming email as spam. 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