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emacs -Q -nw loads cl-lib

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From: Eli Zaretskii <eliz <at> gnu.org>
To: Glenn Morris <rgm <at> gnu.org>
Cc: 24802 <at> debbugs.gnu.org
Subject: Re: bug#24802: emacs -Q -nw loads cl-lib
Date: Mon, 31 Oct 2016 17:45:16 +0200

> From: Glenn Morris <rgm <at> gnu.org>
> Cc: 24802 <at> debbugs.gnu.org
> Date: Sun, 30 Oct 2016 19:49:26 -0400
> 
> As you said in
> 
> http://lists.gnu.org/archive/html/emacs-devel/2015-10/msg00095.html
> 
>     Up until now, the rules for pre-loading package X were that either
>     (a) some preloaded package requires X, or (b) X will be
>     auto-loaded at the beginning of every session by some very
>     frequent operation, like visiting the first file or creating a
>     window or a frame.
> 
> Here we have case b), without needing any operation at all.
> 
> OK, it's not "every session", it's "every -nw session in an
> xterm-like terminal", but IMO the same should apply.
> 
> [1] I don't count the actual term/*.el files themselves in this,
> because those that aren't preloaded have traditionally been trivial.
> Perhaps xterm.el has become so large, and is used (I guess) in such a
> large fraction of without-x builds, that it should be preloaded in
> such builds, as x-win.el is in with-x builds. I think that's a
> separate issue though. It would however make the issue in this report
> obvious.

That's exactly my line of reasoning: as long as we don't preload
xterm.el, we shouldn't regard its loading of other files a problem.

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