From unknown Tue Jun 17 20:20:45 2025 Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: MIME-tools 5.509 (Entity 5.509) Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 From: bug#24716 <24716@debbugs.gnu.org> To: bug#24716 <24716@debbugs.gnu.org> Subject: Status: 24.3; time-subtract result is one hour off Reply-To: bug#24716 <24716@debbugs.gnu.org> Date: Wed, 18 Jun 2025 03:20:45 +0000 retitle 24716 24.3; time-subtract result is one hour off reassign 24716 emacs submitter 24716 Friedrich Delgado severity 24716 normal tag 24716 notabug thanks From debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Mon Oct 17 11:40:26 2016 Received: (at submit) by debbugs.gnu.org; 17 Oct 2016 15:40:26 +0000 Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:36936 helo=debbugs.gnu.org) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1bwA1Y-0006Kj-A7 for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Mon, 17 Oct 2016 11:40:26 -0400 Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([208.118.235.92]:57961) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1bw4ON-0001sZ-Nl for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Mon, 17 Oct 2016 05:39:37 -0400 Received: from Debian-exim by eggs.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1bw4OD-000068-Eg for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Mon, 17 Oct 2016 05:39:30 -0400 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.3.2 (2011-06-06) on eggs.gnu.org X-Spam-Level: ** X-Spam-Status: No, score=2.8 required=5.0 tests=AC_HTML_NONSENSE_TAGS, BAYES_50 autolearn=disabled version=3.3.2 Received: from lists.gnu.org ([2001:4830:134:3::11]:49980) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS1.0:RSA_AES_256_CBC_SHA1:32) (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1bw4OD-000064-AI for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Mon, 17 Oct 2016 05:39:25 -0400 Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([2001:4830:134:3::10]:48892) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1bw4O7-0000Y3-Td for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Mon, 17 Oct 2016 05:39:25 -0400 Received: from Debian-exim by eggs.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1bw4O2-0008Vg-BA for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Mon, 17 Oct 2016 05:39:19 -0400 Received: from mail1.dfn-cert.de ([193.174.13.200]:51049) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS1.0:DHE_RSA_AES_256_CBC_SHA1:32) (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1bw4O1-0008Ua-Q9 for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Mon, 17 Oct 2016 05:39:14 -0400 Received: by rosita.dfn-cert.de (Postfix, from userid 565) id 0BEC2C0; Mon, 17 Oct 2016 11:39:04 +0200 (CEST) Date: Mon, 17 Oct 2016 11:39:04 +0200 From: Friedrich Delgado To: bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org Subject: 24.3; time-subtract result is one hour off Message-ID: <20161017093904.GA29914@rosita.dfn-cert.de> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/signed; micalg=sha256; protocol="application/pkcs7-signature"; boundary="EVF5PPMfhYS0aIcm" Content-Disposition: inline Organization: DFN-CERT Services GmbH X-detected-operating-system: by eggs.gnu.org: GNU/Linux 2.2.x-3.x [generic] [fuzzy] X-detected-operating-system: by eggs.gnu.org: GNU/Linux 2.6.x X-Received-From: 2001:4830:134:3::11 X-Spam-Score: -3.0 (---) X-Debbugs-Envelope-To: submit X-Mailman-Approved-At: Mon, 17 Oct 2016 11:40:23 -0400 X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18 Precedence: list List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Sender: "Debbugs-submit" X-Spam-Score: -3.0 (---) --EVF5PPMfhYS0aIcm Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable In emacs 24.3, I found that time-subtract returns a time difference that is one hour to large. The same appears to be valid in 25.1. Evaluate the following: (decode-time (time-subtract (encode-time 0 10 18 10 10 2016 nil 3600) (enco= de-time 0 40 8 10 10 2016 nil 3600))) (decode-time (time-add (encode-time 0 40 8 10 10 2016 nil 3600) (time-subtr= act (encode-time 0 10 18 10 10 2016 nil 3600) (encode-time 0 40 8 10 10 201= 6 nil 3600)))) Results are: (0 30 10 1 1 1970 4 nil 3600) for the first expression and (0 10 19 10 10 2016 1 t 7200) I'd expect a list starting with (0 30 9 ...) for the first expression (because the duration from 8:40 in the morning to 18:10 in the evening is 9 hours and 30 minutes, NOT 10 hours and 30 minutes) and the second list to start with 0 10 18 (so we arrive back at the later time if we add the difference to the sooner time). chipping on #emacs tells me he gets a functionally equivalent result on a more recent emacs version: chipping > TauPan: what is your result for the time-subtract version? I ge= t (0 0 17 1 1 1970 4 nil 27000) on emacs 25.1.1 Since (format-time-string "%H:%M" (encode-time 0 0 17 1 1 1970 4 nil 27000)) is "10:30" they're basically the same (wrong) result. Kind regards Friedrich Delgado In GNU Emacs 24.3.1 (x86_64-suse-linux-gnu, GTK+ Version 3.10.9) of 2014-11-12 on cloud104 Windowing system distributor `The X.Org Foundation', version 11.0.11403901 System Description: openSUSE 13.1 (Bottle) (x86_64) Configured using: `configure '--with-pop' '--without-hesiod' '--with-kerberos' '--with-kerberos5' '--with-xim' '--with-wide-int' '--enable-autodepend' '--prefix=3D/usr' '--mandir=3D/usr/share/man' '--infodir=3D/usr/share/info' '--datadir=3D/usr/share' '--localstatedir=3D/var' '--sharedstatedir=3D/var/lib' '--libexecdir=3D/usr/lib' '--with-x' '--with-sound' '--with-xpm' '--with-jpeg' '--with-tiff' '--with-gif' '--with-png' '--with-rsvg' '--with-dbus' '--without-gpm' '--with-x-toolkit=3Dgtk3' '--x-includes=3D/usr/include' '--x-libraries=3D/usr/lib64' '--with-xft' '--with-libotf' '--with-m17n-flt' '--build=3Dx86_64-suse-linux' 'build_alias=3Dx86_64-suse-linux' 'CFLAGS=3D-fmessage-length=3D0 -grecord-gcc-switches -fstack-protector -O2 -Wall -D_FORTIFY_SOURCE=3D2 -funwind-tables -fasynchronous-unwind-tables -g -D_GNU_SOURCE -std=3Dgnu89 -pipe -Wno-pointer-sign -Wno-unused-variable -Wno-unused-label -Wno-unprototyped-calls -fno-optimize-sibling-calls -DSYSTEM_PURESIZE_EXTRA=3D55000 -DSITELOAD_PURESIZE_EXTRA=3D10000 ' 'LDFLAGS=3D-Wl,-O2 -Wl,--hash-size=3D65521'' Important settings: value of $LC_ALL: de_DE.utf8 value of $LC_NUMERIC: POSIX value of $LANG: de_DE.utf8 value of $XMODIFIERS:=20 locale-coding-system: utf-8-unix default enable-multibyte-characters: t Major mode: Fundamental Minor modes in effect: global-aggressive-indent-mode: t wrap-region-global-mode: t wrap-region-mode: t tdd-mode: t pyvenv-mode: t desktop-save-mode: t magit-auto-revert-mode: t shell-dirtrack-mode: t diff-auto-refine-mode: t winpoint-mode: t dired-omit-mode: t display-time-mode: t strokes-mode: t minibuffer-electric-default-mode: t ido-vertical-mode: t ido-everywhere: t global-git-gutter-mode: t auto-image-file-mode: t override-global-mode: t image-diredx-async-mode: t show-paren-mode: t tooltip-mode: t mouse-wheel-mode: t menu-bar-mode: t file-name-shadow-mode: t global-font-lock-mode: t font-lock-mode: t auto-composition-mode: t auto-encryption-mode: t auto-compression-mode: t size-indication-mode: t column-number-mode: t line-number-mode: t transient-mark-mode: t Recent input: C-d C-e M-: ( f o r m a t=20 - t i m e - s t r i n g SPC C-e ) M-: =20 =20 =20 " %=20 H : % z " S-SPC=20 C-e M-: =20 =20 =20 C-d Z =20 M-: =20 =20 =20 C-d t M-: =20 =20 =20 =20 C-d x M-: =20 =20 =20 C-d=20 X M-: M-: =20 =20 =20 C-d=20 H : % M M-: C-SPC C-e M-w C-g M-x =20 C-g M-x C-g C-g C-g M-: ( / SPC 2 7 0 0 0 SPC=20 3 6 0 0 . 0 ) M-: C-h C-g C-g C-x s y=20 C-x s C-x C-r =20 t m p a f d u d=20 g i t O =20 n o C-g C-x b C-g C-x b H a u C-x=20 s C-x k M-x r e p o C-s Recent messages: "10:30:00" [2 times] "10:30" Quit [5 times] 7.5 Quit [2 times] Saving file /afs/dfn-cert.de/user/delgado/Org/work/tagebuch.org... 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[220.100.92.57]) by smtp.gmail.com with ESMTPSA id s85sm65815046pfi.17.2016.10.19.12.56.39 (version=TLS1_2 cipher=ECDHE-RSA-CHACHA20-POLY1305 bits=256/256); Wed, 19 Oct 2016 12:56:41 -0700 (PDT) From: Tino Calancha To: Friedrich Delgado Subject: Re: bug#24716: 24.3; time-subtract result is one hour off In-Reply-To: <20161017093904.GA29914@rosita.dfn-cert.de> (Friedrich Delgado's message of "Mon, 17 Oct 2016 11:39:04 +0200") References: <20161017093904.GA29914@rosita.dfn-cert.de> User-Agent: Gnus/5.13 (Gnus v5.13) Emacs/26.0.50 (gnu/linux) Date: Thu, 20 Oct 2016 04:56:31 +0900 Message-ID: <87insom7tc.fsf@gmail.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain X-Spam-Score: 0.5 (/) X-Debbugs-Envelope-To: 24716 Cc: tino.calancha@gmail.com, 24716@debbugs.gnu.org X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18 Precedence: list List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Sender: "Debbugs-submit" X-Spam-Score: 0.5 (/) Friedrich Delgado writes: Thank you for your report. I don't see nothing wrong. See below. > In emacs 24.3, I found that time-subtract returns a time difference > that is one hour to large. The same appears to be valid in 25.1. > > Evaluate the following: > > (decode-time (time-subtract (encode-time 0 10 18 10 10 2016 nil 3600) (encode-time 0 40 8 10 10 2016 nil 3600))) > > (decode-time (time-add (encode-time 0 40 8 10 10 2016 nil 3600) (time-subtract (encode-time 0 10 18 10 10 2016 nil 3600) (encode-time 0 40 8 10 10 2016 nil 3600)))) > > Results are: > (0 30 10 1 1 1970 4 nil 3600) > > for the first expression and > > (0 10 19 10 10 2016 1 t 7200) Both results are correct. > I'd expect a list starting with (0 30 9 ...) for the first expression The list would start (0 30 9 ...) if the time zone correspond to Greenwich meridian, then you would get the equivalent value: (0 30 9 1 1 1970 4 nil 0). > (because the duration from 8:40 in the morning to 18:10 in the evening > is 9 hours and 30 minutes, NOT 10 hours and 30 minutes) For time zone 3600, the origin of the time is: (0 0 1 1 1 1970 4 nil 3600). > and the second > list to start with 0 10 18 (so we arrive back at the later time if we > add the difference to the sooner time). Indeed you have arrived back to the sooner time: it starts (0 10 19 ... 7200) instead of (0 10 18 ... 3600) just because it is expressed in your time zone, i.e., +02:00, instead of +01:00, but it's the same absolute time. > chipping on #emacs tells me he gets a functionally equivalent result > on a more recent emacs version: > > chipping > TauPan: what is your result for the time-subtract version? I get (0 0 17 1 1 1970 4 nil 27000) on emacs 25.1.1 > > Since (format-time-string "%H:%M" (encode-time 0 0 17 1 1 1970 4 nil > 27000)) is "10:30" they're basically the same (wrong) result. The value from 25.1.1 (0 0 17 1 1 1970 4 nil 27000) is also correct: 27000 s = 7.5 h, 3600 s = 1 h Then, to translate (0 30 10 1 1 1970 4 nil 3600) to 27000 time zone we need to add 7.5 - 1 = 6.5 h 10:30 + 6.5h --> 17:00 Try to pass t as third argument to display the universal time: (format-time-string "%H:%M %z" (encode-time 0 0 17 1 1 1970 4 nil 27000) t) => "09:30 +0000" From debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Wed Oct 19 16:00:06 2016 Received: (at control) by debbugs.gnu.org; 19 Oct 2016 20:00:06 +0000 Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:40085 helo=debbugs.gnu.org) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1bwx1y-00083U-6w for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Wed, 19 Oct 2016 16:00:06 -0400 Received: from mail-pf0-f177.google.com ([209.85.192.177]:36438) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1bwx1x-00081r-65 for control@debbugs.gnu.org; Wed, 19 Oct 2016 16:00:05 -0400 Received: by mail-pf0-f177.google.com with SMTP id e6so21307370pfk.3 for ; Wed, 19 Oct 2016 13:00:05 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20120113; h=from:to:date:message-id:mime-version; bh=MJNSzKifhHxVsl1PmPEYe6YRDBY4etE0OGALrgRBSsg=; b=e6vF/Z7NK7EynW8rmL4E0DI9Gc9n4DJt6rTEPHOgzK5Af7W+c1v6E2l5+TnWJwulW4 KCYjzsLinwIi5VTXrYIwxqGRudCo6m/RXDA2yqQwqE909baEKmaoHyFHYKRyOK9CVsPS ZSF8OAPRgCEZJwGcVmYDpCmNbCj0L9UnBMZJvd6eQ+KAhrrxxa7l9F3r8PeYPxUuiuD+ GZ2aC7x/QFLKq/3Ec+F9Xx/6lRG89WLCmnKzU4sr0Z7Sfp7LYCLAhQkoVE1ssUSkaSDV IQqkHGEJCrylXcWD8sUT8Y/+acjqy6MgJSvSs1+tknvkopRkPoHYliIqJzJxydVRMS1x GsyQ== X-Google-DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=1e100.net; s=20130820; h=x-gm-message-state:from:to:date:message-id:mime-version; bh=MJNSzKifhHxVsl1PmPEYe6YRDBY4etE0OGALrgRBSsg=; b=JKCR+dJFswCpEGrOrrKuolN23InViec9NrogbfzDjU3+gwqRpvxr4ASJ5sBOOcW4dn BiZ609BPFuSSlt4MOebJBlD/sNC9jRc1pb1HX7vK13wZYltEiNknTgfKYFHQY6ChThbK T8mZoZvk1sqsxyBnmhDQMdxqAAWbUE3UbLD40oUap0nxA9FRKwmBTVbB/jAHrBflrUvd owBWQCs92k07KXz7WxPocPgsVTSjLw6LQjzCeK8bo/EySznK+Ys90pDGwu/s16QEItpy QzSGTJiYIo89LsrhxZDLs+qzVO58eAI9NQIH8Z2uNwSFoEB2Sesb/kNqfAUBo3m9zQu5 IUWQ== X-Gm-Message-State: AA6/9RmOyS+t3xXptDGdTC2Tm2kHX+99FW/qy8R+KFgKz6DlMjcEmr94Dm79v7ejEMqOiA== X-Received: by 10.98.86.139 with SMTP id h11mr14446399pfj.73.1476907199247; Wed, 19 Oct 2016 12:59:59 -0700 (PDT) Received: from calancha-pc (57.92.100.220.dy.bbexcite.jp. 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Content preview: tags 24716 notabug [...] Content analysis details: (2.0 points, 10.0 required) pts rule name description ---- ---------------------- -------------------------------------------------- -0.0 RCVD_IN_DNSWL_NONE RBL: Sender listed at http://www.dnswl.org/, no trust [209.85.192.177 listed in list.dnswl.org] -0.0 RCVD_IN_MSPIKE_H2 RBL: Average reputation (+2) [209.85.192.177 listed in wl.mailspike.net] -0.0 SPF_PASS SPF: sender matches SPF record 0.0 FREEMAIL_FROM Sender email is commonly abused enduser mail provider (tino.calancha[at]gmail.com) 0.0 T_DKIM_INVALID DKIM-Signature header exists but is not valid 1.8 MISSING_SUBJECT Missing Subject: header 0.2 NO_SUBJECT Extra score for no subject tags 24716 notabug From debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Thu Oct 20 03:27:11 2016 Received: (at 24716) by debbugs.gnu.org; 20 Oct 2016 07:27:11 +0000 Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:40280 helo=debbugs.gnu.org) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1bx7ks-0000sZ-On for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Thu, 20 Oct 2016 03:27:10 -0400 Received: from mail1.dfn-cert.de ([193.174.13.200]:60642) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1bx7kr-0000sL-Nn for 24716@debbugs.gnu.org; Thu, 20 Oct 2016 03:27:10 -0400 Received: by rosita.dfn-cert.de (Postfix, from userid 565) id 4C411BF; Thu, 20 Oct 2016 09:27:02 +0200 (CEST) Date: Thu, 20 Oct 2016 09:27:02 +0200 From: Friedrich Delgado To: Tino Calancha Subject: Re: bug#24716: 24.3; time-subtract result is one hour off Message-ID: <20161020072702.GA20251@rosita.dfn-cert.de> References: <20161017093904.GA29914@rosita.dfn-cert.de> <87insom7tc.fsf@gmail.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit In-Reply-To: <87insom7tc.fsf@gmail.com> Organization: DFN-CERT Services GmbH X-Spam-Score: -5.3 (-----) X-Debbugs-Envelope-To: 24716 Cc: 24716@debbugs.gnu.org X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18 Precedence: list List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Sender: "Debbugs-submit" X-Spam-Score: -5.3 (-----) Ah, thanks for explaining this! I had the suspicion that I might have overlooked something, that's why I tried to get feedback on #emacs first before submitting this as a bug (unfortunately there weren't many people available at that time). I simply didn't think of checking the timezone and of course I didn't read the full documentation of these functions. :) Sorry for the noise! Kind regards Friedel Tino Calancha: %<--- %<--- %<--- %<--- %<--- > Friedrich Delgado writes: > > Thank you for your report. > I don't see nothing wrong. See below. > > In emacs 24.3, I found that time-subtract returns a time difference > > that is one hour to large. The same appears to be valid in 25.1. > > > > Evaluate the following: > > > > (decode-time (time-subtract (encode-time 0 10 18 10 10 2016 nil 3600) (encode-time 0 40 8 10 10 2016 nil 3600))) > > > > (decode-time (time-add (encode-time 0 40 8 10 10 2016 nil 3600) (time-subtract (encode-time 0 10 18 10 10 2016 nil 3600) (encode-time 0 40 8 10 10 2016 nil 3600)))) > > > > Results are: > > (0 30 10 1 1 1970 4 nil 3600) > > > > for the first expression and > > > > (0 10 19 10 10 2016 1 t 7200) > Both results are correct. > > > I'd expect a list starting with (0 30 9 ...) for the first expression > The list would start (0 30 9 ...) if the time zone correspond to > Greenwich meridian, then you would get the equivalent value: > (0 30 9 1 1 1970 4 nil 0). > > (because the duration from 8:40 in the morning to 18:10 in the evening > > is 9 hours and 30 minutes, NOT 10 hours and 30 minutes) > For time zone 3600, the origin of the time is: > (0 0 1 1 1 1970 4 nil 3600). > > and the second > > list to start with 0 10 18 (so we arrive back at the later time if we > > add the difference to the sooner time). > Indeed you have arrived back to the sooner time: it starts > (0 10 19 ... 7200) > instead of > (0 10 18 ... 3600) > just because it is expressed in your time zone, i.e., +02:00, > instead of +01:00, but it's the same absolute time. > > > chipping on #emacs tells me he gets a functionally equivalent result > > on a more recent emacs version: > > > > chipping > TauPan: what is your result for the time-subtract version? 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