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24.3; time-subtract result is one hour off

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From: Friedrich Delgado <delgado <at> dfn-cert.de>
To: bug-gnu-emacs <at> gnu.org
Subject: 24.3; time-subtract result is one hour off
Date: Mon, 17 Oct 2016 11:39:04 +0200

[Message part 1 (text/plain, inline)]

In emacs 24.3, I found that time-subtract returns a time difference
that is one hour to large. The same appears to be valid in 25.1.

Evaluate the following:

(decode-time (time-subtract (encode-time 0 10 18 10 10 2016 nil 3600) (encode-time 0 40 8 10 10 2016 nil 3600)))

(decode-time (time-add (encode-time 0 40 8 10 10 2016 nil 3600) (time-subtract (encode-time 0 10 18 10 10 2016 nil 3600) (encode-time 0 40 8 10 10 2016 nil 3600))))

Results are:
(0 30 10 1 1 1970 4 nil 3600)

for the first expression and

(0 10 19 10 10 2016 1 t 7200)

I'd expect a list starting with (0 30 9 ...) for the first expression
(because the duration from 8:40 in the morning to 18:10 in the evening
is 9 hours and 30 minutes, NOT 10 hours and 30 minutes) and the second
list to start with 0 10 18 (so we arrive back at the later time if we
add the difference to the sooner time).

chipping on #emacs tells me he gets a functionally equivalent result
on a more recent emacs version:

chipping >  TauPan: what is your result for the time-subtract version? I get (0 0 17 1 1 1970 4 nil 27000) on emacs 25.1.1

Since (format-time-string "%H:%M" (encode-time 0 0 17 1 1 1970 4 nil
27000)) is "10:30" they're basically the same (wrong) result.

Kind regards
Friedrich Delgado

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Message #8 received at 24716 <at> debbugs.gnu.org (full text, mbox):

From: Tino Calancha <tino.calancha <at> gmail.com>
To: Friedrich Delgado <delgado <at> dfn-cert.de>
Cc: tino.calancha <at> gmail.com, 24716 <at> debbugs.gnu.org
Subject: Re: bug#24716: 24.3; time-subtract result is one hour off
Date: Thu, 20 Oct 2016 04:56:31 +0900

Friedrich Delgado <delgado <at> dfn-cert.de> writes:

Thank you for your report.
I don't see nothing wrong.  See below.
> In emacs 24.3, I found that time-subtract returns a time difference
> that is one hour to large. The same appears to be valid in 25.1.
>
> Evaluate the following:
>
> (decode-time (time-subtract (encode-time 0 10 18 10 10 2016 nil 3600) (encode-time 0 40 8 10 10 2016 nil 3600)))
>
> (decode-time (time-add (encode-time 0 40 8 10 10 2016 nil 3600) (time-subtract (encode-time 0 10 18 10 10 2016 nil 3600) (encode-time 0 40 8 10 10 2016 nil 3600))))
>
> Results are:
> (0 30 10 1 1 1970 4 nil 3600)
>
> for the first expression and
>
> (0 10 19 10 10 2016 1 t 7200)
Both results are correct.

> I'd expect a list starting with (0 30 9 ...) for the first expression
The list would start (0 30 9 ...) if the time zone correspond to
Greenwich meridian, then you would get the equivalent value:
(0 30 9 1 1 1970 4 nil 0).
> (because the duration from 8:40 in the morning to 18:10 in the evening
> is 9 hours and 30 minutes, NOT 10 hours and 30 minutes)
For time zone 3600, the origin of the time is:
(0 0 1 1 1 1970 4 nil 3600).
> and the second
> list to start with 0 10 18 (so we arrive back at the later time if we
> add the difference to the sooner time).
Indeed you have arrived back to the sooner time: it starts
(0 10 19 ... 7200)
instead of
(0 10 18 ... 3600)
just because it is expressed in your time zone, i.e., +02:00,
instead of +01:00, but it's the same absolute time.

> chipping on #emacs tells me he gets a functionally equivalent result
> on a more recent emacs version:
>
> chipping >  TauPan: what is your result for the time-subtract version? I get (0 0 17 1 1 1970 4 nil 27000) on emacs 25.1.1
>
> Since (format-time-string "%H:%M" (encode-time 0 0 17 1 1 1970 4 nil
> 27000)) is "10:30" they're basically the same (wrong) result.
The value from 25.1.1
(0 0 17 1 1 1970 4 nil 27000)
is also correct: 27000 s = 7.5 h, 3600 s = 1 h
Then, to translate
(0 30 10 1 1 1970 4 nil 3600)
to 27000 time zone we need to add 7.5 - 1 = 6.5 h

10:30 + 6.5h --> 17:00

Try to pass t as third argument to display the universal time:
(format-time-string "%H:%M %z" (encode-time 0 0 17 1 1 1970 4 nil 27000) t)
=> "09:30 +0000"

Message #13 received at 24716 <at> debbugs.gnu.org (full text, mbox):

From: Friedrich Delgado <delgado <at> dfn-cert.de>
To: Tino Calancha <tino.calancha <at> gmail.com>
Cc: 24716 <at> debbugs.gnu.org
Subject: Re: bug#24716: 24.3; time-subtract result is one hour off
Date: Thu, 20 Oct 2016 09:27:02 +0200

Ah, thanks for explaining this!

I had the suspicion that I might have overlooked something, that's why
I tried to get feedback on #emacs first before submitting this as a
bug (unfortunately there weren't many people available at that time).

I simply didn't think of checking the timezone and of course I didn't
read the full documentation of these functions. :)

Sorry for the noise!

Kind regards
     Friedel

Tino Calancha: %<--- %<--- %<--- %<--- %<---
> Friedrich Delgado <delgado <at> dfn-cert.de> writes:
> 
> Thank you for your report.
> I don't see nothing wrong.  See below.
> > In emacs 24.3, I found that time-subtract returns a time difference
> > that is one hour to large. The same appears to be valid in 25.1.
> >
> > Evaluate the following:
> >
> > (decode-time (time-subtract (encode-time 0 10 18 10 10 2016 nil 3600) (encode-time 0 40 8 10 10 2016 nil 3600)))
> >
> > (decode-time (time-add (encode-time 0 40 8 10 10 2016 nil 3600) (time-subtract (encode-time 0 10 18 10 10 2016 nil 3600) (encode-time 0 40 8 10 10 2016 nil 3600))))
> >
> > Results are:
> > (0 30 10 1 1 1970 4 nil 3600)
> >
> > for the first expression and
> >
> > (0 10 19 10 10 2016 1 t 7200)
> Both results are correct.
> 
> > I'd expect a list starting with (0 30 9 ...) for the first expression
> The list would start (0 30 9 ...) if the time zone correspond to
> Greenwich meridian, then you would get the equivalent value:
> (0 30 9 1 1 1970 4 nil 0).
> > (because the duration from 8:40 in the morning to 18:10 in the evening
> > is 9 hours and 30 minutes, NOT 10 hours and 30 minutes)
> For time zone 3600, the origin of the time is:
> (0 0 1 1 1 1970 4 nil 3600).
> > and the second
> > list to start with 0 10 18 (so we arrive back at the later time if we
> > add the difference to the sooner time).
> Indeed you have arrived back to the sooner time: it starts
> (0 10 19 ... 7200)
> instead of
> (0 10 18 ... 3600)
> just because it is expressed in your time zone, i.e., +02:00,
> instead of +01:00, but it's the same absolute time.
> 
> > chipping on #emacs tells me he gets a functionally equivalent result
> > on a more recent emacs version:
> >
> > chipping >  TauPan: what is your result for the time-subtract version? I get (0 0 17 1 1 1970 4 nil 27000) on emacs 25.1.1
> >
> > Since (format-time-string "%H:%M" (encode-time 0 0 17 1 1 1970 4 nil
> > 27000)) is "10:30" they're basically the same (wrong) result.
> The value from 25.1.1
> (0 0 17 1 1 1970 4 nil 27000)
> is also correct: 27000 s = 7.5 h, 3600 s = 1 h
> Then, to translate
> (0 30 10 1 1 1970 4 nil 3600)
> to 27000 time zone we need to add 7.5 - 1 = 6.5 h
> 
> 10:30 + 6.5h --> 17:00
> 
> Try to pass t as third argument to display the universal time:
> (format-time-string "%H:%M %z" (encode-time 0 0 17 1 1 1970 4 nil 27000) t)
> => "09:30 +0000"
%<--- %<--- %<--- %<--- %<--- %<---

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Message #18 received at 24716-done <at> debbugs.gnu.org (full text, mbox):

From: Tino Calancha <tino.calancha <at> gmail.com>
To: 24716-done <at> debbugs.gnu.org
Cc: Friedrich Delgado <delgado <at> dfn-cert.de>
Subject: Re: bug#24716: 24.3; time-subtract result is one hour off
Date: Thu, 20 Oct 2016 16:42:02 +0900

Friedrich Delgado <delgado <at> dfn-cert.de> writes:

> I had the suspicion that I might have overlooked something
> Sorry for the noise!
No problem.  Thank you for report it anyway.
Since there is not a bug I will close this report.

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