From unknown Fri Aug 15 02:05:09 2025 Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: MIME-tools 5.509 (Entity 5.509) Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 From: bug#24563 <24563@debbugs.gnu.org> To: bug#24563 <24563@debbugs.gnu.org> Subject: Status: kill-region fails while dragging a selection Reply-To: bug#24563 <24563@debbugs.gnu.org> Date: Fri, 15 Aug 2025 09:05:09 +0000 retitle 24563 kill-region fails while dragging a selection reassign 24563 emacs submitter 24563 Phil Ruffwind severity 24563 normal tag 24563 notabug wontfix thanks From debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Wed Sep 28 19:31:12 2016 Received: (at submit) by debbugs.gnu.org; 28 Sep 2016 23:31:12 +0000 Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:38317 helo=debbugs.gnu.org) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1bpOJk-0005z7-BR for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Wed, 28 Sep 2016 19:31:12 -0400 Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([208.118.235.92]:37585) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1bpJdW-00048Q-JM for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Wed, 28 Sep 2016 14:31:18 -0400 Received: from Debian-exim by eggs.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1bpJdO-0001KR-CJ for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Wed, 28 Sep 2016 14:31:13 -0400 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.3.2 (2011-06-06) on eggs.gnu.org X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=0.8 required=5.0 tests=BAYES_50,T_DKIM_INVALID autolearn=disabled version=3.3.2 Received: from lists.gnu.org ([2001:4830:134:3::11]:50263) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1bpJdM-0001Jr-3g for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Wed, 28 Sep 2016 14:31:10 -0400 Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([2001:4830:134:3::10]:56727) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1bpJdF-0001x1-01 for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Wed, 28 Sep 2016 14:31:06 -0400 Received: from Debian-exim by eggs.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1bpJdB-0001Gp-IY for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Wed, 28 Sep 2016 14:31:00 -0400 Received: from out2-smtp.messagingengine.com ([66.111.4.26]:35423) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1bpJd9-0001Cz-7w for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Wed, 28 Sep 2016 14:30:57 -0400 Received: from compute2.internal (compute2.nyi.internal [10.202.2.42]) by mailout.nyi.internal (Postfix) with ESMTP id 29BBC20702 for ; Wed, 28 Sep 2016 14:30:45 -0400 (EDT) Received: from web4 ([10.202.2.214]) by compute2.internal (MEProxy); Wed, 28 Sep 2016 14:30:45 -0400 DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha1; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=rufflewind.com; h= content-transfer-encoding:content-type:date:from:message-id :mime-version:subject:to:x-sasl-enc:x-sasl-enc; s=mesmtp; bh=53g E2Hpvp8n9bXPO/uSqYo9jyCg=; b=RdZJwM7Wt5v9/KDr2IrUTyuwIVVkKzkWFSK Xdfh2vBa0kbYPu/4QzKawhPXTymNgeilE14v/8TycV3c45FemsgB9DieVqvwERce NxSUQw22PNDPuedqry/So0OtmzC3dVOKhV8qckCTMCBkrHKwrietXQKkIcoQ40hZ yoPsYBII= DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha1; c=relaxed/relaxed; d= messagingengine.com; h=content-transfer-encoding:content-type :date:from:message-id:mime-version:subject:to:x-sasl-enc :x-sasl-enc; s=smtpout; bh=53gE2Hpvp8n9bXPO/uSqYo9jyCg=; b=tFRiO D0onbrmKYsRKtQSgcvTtb0yVDSX8DD0T4ytZzFb15O3bE2W8qGV+U0Eoz9NZc32B EeczlGF+EWLLMC3aCbhWBX2FmlffIauJPy9ZogMbQ0mLJem0/oBv/TFz+aaDzR5Y pip+ntDVpEm3PnG5i+/VJQ1nXr4imlI3XsLWVU= Received: by mailuser.nyi.internal (Postfix, from userid 99) id EAF72CC2EC; Wed, 28 Sep 2016 14:30:44 -0400 (EDT) Message-Id: <1475087444.2530471.739981057.71960B2F@webmail.messagingengine.com> X-Sasl-Enc: E/g8rgtinLnNkEecPiSuv7uCvBOpN/EaY3jOiS+j7Bqv 1475087444 From: Phil Ruffwind To: bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Type: text/plain X-Mailer: MessagingEngine.com Webmail Interface - ajax-3ce3fca2 Subject: kill-region fails while dragging a selection Date: Wed, 28 Sep 2016 14:30:44 -0400 X-detected-operating-system: by eggs.gnu.org: GNU/Linux 2.2.x-3.x [generic] X-detected-operating-system: by eggs.gnu.org: GNU/Linux 2.6.x X-Received-From: 2001:4830:134:3::11 X-Spam-Score: -4.4 (----) X-Debbugs-Envelope-To: submit X-Mailman-Approved-At: Wed, 28 Sep 2016 19:31:10 -0400 X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18 Precedence: list List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Sender: "Debbugs-submit" X-Spam-Score: -4.4 (----) Emacs 25.1 seems to have changed the behavior of doing kill-region (C-w) while dragging a selection in GUI mode. Here are the steps to reproduce: 1. Run Emacs in GUI mode via: emacs -Q 2. Type: M-x set-variable mark-even-if-inactive nil 3. Open a file containing some text. 4. Make a selection using the mouse, but do NOT release the mouse button. 5. Type: C-w. In Emacs 24.5, this would initially do nothing, but pressing C-w a second time will kill the selected region correctly. In Emacs 25.1, this fails with "The mark is not active now" and deselects the region. Had I turned mark-even-if-inactive back on, it would cause the previously selected region to be killed instead, which can lead to lots of accidental killing. Naturally, one wouldn't do this on purpose: one should release the drag before doing C-w, but it's very easy to accidentally overlap the two operations when done in haste. --- In GNU Emacs 25.1.1 (x86_64-unknown-linux-gnu, GTK+ Version 3.20.9) of 2016-09-18 built on juergen Windowing system distributor 'The X.Org Foundation', version 11.0.11804000 System Description: Arch Linux Configured using: 'configure --prefix=/usr --sysconfdir=/etc --libexecdir=/usr/lib --localstatedir=/var --with-x-toolkit=gtk3 --with-xft 'CFLAGS=-march=x86-64 -mtune=generic -O2 -pipe -fstack-protector-strong' CPPFLAGS=-D_FORTIFY_SOURCE=2 LDFLAGS=-Wl,-O1,--sort-common,--as-needed,-z,relro' Configured features: XPM JPEG TIFF GIF PNG RSVG IMAGEMAGICK SOUND GPM DBUS GCONF GSETTINGS NOTIFY ACL GNUTLS LIBXML2 FREETYPE M17N_FLT LIBOTF XFT ZLIB TOOLKIT_SCROLL_BARS GTK3 X11 Important settings: value of $LC_COLLATE: C value of $LANG: en_US.UTF-8 value of $XMODIFIERS: @im=none locale-coding-system: utf-8-unix Major mode: Lisp Interaction Minor modes in effect: tooltip-mode: t global-eldoc-mode: t electric-indent-mode: t mouse-wheel-mode: t tool-bar-mode: t menu-bar-mode: t file-name-shadow-mode: t global-font-lock-mode: t font-lock-mode: t blink-cursor-mode: t auto-composition-mode: t auto-encryption-mode: t auto-compression-mode: t line-number-mode: t transient-mark-mode: t Load-path shadows: None found. 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Here are the steps to > reproduce: > > 1. Run Emacs in GUI mode via: emacs -Q > 2. Type: M-x set-variable mark-even-if-inactive nil > 3. Open a file containing some text. > 4. Make a selection using the mouse, but do NOT release the mouse > button. > 5. Type: C-w. > > In Emacs 24.5, this would initially do nothing, but pressing C-w a > second time will kill the selected region correctly. > > In Emacs 25.1, this fails with "The mark is not active now" and > deselects the region. Why is this a bug? Neither of the two behaviors is AFAIK documented, so either could be correct. I agree that the behavior changed, most probably because both the implementation of region highlight and the binding of commands to the mouse have changed in Emacs 25.1. But is there a reason not to get along with the new behavior? Thanks for reporting this. From debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Fri Sep 30 17:29:03 2016 Received: (at 24563) by debbugs.gnu.org; 30 Sep 2016 21:29:03 +0000 Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:40034 helo=debbugs.gnu.org) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1bq5Md-0007eK-Ki for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Fri, 30 Sep 2016 17:29:03 -0400 Received: from out3-smtp.messagingengine.com ([66.111.4.27]:47747) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1bq5Mc-0007dw-1f for 24563@debbugs.gnu.org; Fri, 30 Sep 2016 17:29:02 -0400 Received: from compute2.internal (compute2.nyi.internal [10.202.2.42]) by mailout.nyi.internal (Postfix) with ESMTP id A2AD020301; Fri, 30 Sep 2016 17:29:01 -0400 (EDT) Received: from web2 ([10.202.2.212]) by compute2.internal (MEProxy); Fri, 30 Sep 2016 17:29:01 -0400 DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha1; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=rufflewind.com; h= cc:content-transfer-encoding:content-type:date:from:in-reply-to :message-id:mime-version:references:subject:to:x-sasl-enc :x-sasl-enc; s=mesmtp; bh=QMijAutXNOFD85T/NgOI0MsIkJE=; b=O224jN mM1rqUP3pvUYfMIaeJh2VIWE0WvEIXo8+79RM4NcihMcVsmEe4B5lHwuj/BkOy8O z8PhkkXj1adVYQgBkSTwsWZmNpnGMoO4LC5Fz0jSmj/AjA9F9qL/5fmvMYWsqjCw qfv+qKKBqNZMeYMxm9/cVgRHzg29Ea78ZHxc4= DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha1; c=relaxed/relaxed; d= messagingengine.com; h=cc:content-transfer-encoding:content-type :date:from:in-reply-to:message-id:mime-version:references :subject:to:x-sasl-enc:x-sasl-enc; s=smtpout; bh=QMijAutXNOFD85T /NgOI0MsIkJE=; b=Zq8+tufRJKboU0MPAWc8FcKmjyNMBJLRptL7BsCkb6Dc4/S lBUHFKIhPYuyct4I5vOy2VU7scBZ5Yp3TzboAdln/HqhJ2/Gdp26bRWzFMYXP/Sz bunwJ08VxMxAKaqciV0O9/TntV5yqSkaRsfOPft+EpYFwT1jtJnCATZUt4do= Received: by mailuser.nyi.internal (Postfix, from userid 99) id 758ECD02D2; Fri, 30 Sep 2016 17:29:01 -0400 (EDT) Message-Id: <1475270941.1149562.742366889.33873F48@webmail.messagingengine.com> X-Sasl-Enc: ow3ZKXy3RL9oU78Y6boSKur8X7ptm6DjoybLfigoOBJp 1475270941 From: Phil Ruffwind To: Eli Zaretskii MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Type: text/plain X-Mailer: MessagingEngine.com Webmail Interface - ajax-334cb6bb In-Reply-To: <8360peoh0t.fsf@gnu.org> References: <1475087444.2530471.739981057.71960B2F@webmail.messagingengine.com> <8360peoh0t.fsf@gnu.org> Subject: Re: bug#24563: kill-region fails while dragging a selection Date: Fri, 30 Sep 2016 17:29:01 -0400 X-Spam-Score: -0.7 (/) X-Debbugs-Envelope-To: 24563 Cc: 24563@debbugs.gnu.org X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18 Precedence: list List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Sender: "Debbugs-submit" X-Spam-Score: -0.7 (/) > Why is this a bug? Neither of the two behaviors is AFAIK documented, > so either could be correct. I agree that the behavior changed, most > probably because both the implementation of region highlight and the > binding of commands to the mouse have changed in Emacs 25.1. But is > there a reason not to get along with the new behavior? It's easy to mistakenly hit C-w just before (instead of after) the mouse button is released, so the behavior of this scenario affects the UX for killing text quickly with the aid of the mouse. The old behavior mostly worked as expected. The new behavior does something totally different: - If mark-even-if-inactive is nil, then it will fail but also deselect the region, so the user has to start over. - If mark-even-if-inactive is non-nil, then it will succeed but will mostly likely kill the wrong region (the previously marked region). This makes killing text selected by the mouse unnecessarily fragile. Thanks. From debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Sat Oct 01 03:55:29 2016 Received: (at 24563) by debbugs.gnu.org; 1 Oct 2016 07:55:29 +0000 Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:40210 helo=debbugs.gnu.org) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1bqF8r-00085k-7f for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Sat, 01 Oct 2016 03:55:29 -0400 Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([208.118.235.92]:35909) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1bqF8p-00085W-TE for 24563@debbugs.gnu.org; Sat, 01 Oct 2016 03:55:28 -0400 Received: from Debian-exim by eggs.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1bqF8g-00052i-2J for 24563@debbugs.gnu.org; Sat, 01 Oct 2016 03:55:22 -0400 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.3.2 (2011-06-06) on eggs.gnu.org X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-2.2 required=5.0 tests=BAYES_50,RP_MATCHES_RCVD autolearn=disabled version=3.3.2 Received: from fencepost.gnu.org ([2001:4830:134:3::e]:60789) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1bqF8f-00052D-W5; Sat, 01 Oct 2016 03:55:18 -0400 Received: from 84.94.185.246.cable.012.net.il ([84.94.185.246]:1461 helo=home-c4e4a596f7) by fencepost.gnu.org with esmtpsa (TLS1.2:RSA_AES_128_CBC_SHA1:128) (Exim 4.82) (envelope-from ) id 1bqF8d-0000ca-Tk; Sat, 01 Oct 2016 03:55:16 -0400 Date: Sat, 01 Oct 2016 10:55:23 +0300 Message-Id: <837f9smrkk.fsf@gnu.org> From: Eli Zaretskii To: Phil Ruffwind In-reply-to: <1475270941.1149562.742366889.33873F48@webmail.messagingengine.com> (message from Phil Ruffwind on Fri, 30 Sep 2016 17:29:01 -0400) Subject: Re: bug#24563: kill-region fails while dragging a selection References: <1475087444.2530471.739981057.71960B2F@webmail.messagingengine.com> <8360peoh0t.fsf@gnu.org> <1475270941.1149562.742366889.33873F48@webmail.messagingengine.com> X-detected-operating-system: by eggs.gnu.org: GNU/Linux 2.2.x-3.x [generic] X-Received-From: 2001:4830:134:3::e X-Spam-Score: -8.0 (--------) X-Debbugs-Envelope-To: 24563 Cc: 24563@debbugs.gnu.org X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18 Precedence: list List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Reply-To: Eli Zaretskii Errors-To: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Sender: "Debbugs-submit" X-Spam-Score: -8.0 (--------) > From: Phil Ruffwind > Cc: 24563@debbugs.gnu.org > Date: Fri, 30 Sep 2016 17:29:01 -0400 > > > Why is this a bug? Neither of the two behaviors is AFAIK documented, > > so either could be correct. I agree that the behavior changed, most > > probably because both the implementation of region highlight and the > > binding of commands to the mouse have changed in Emacs 25.1. But is > > there a reason not to get along with the new behavior? > > It's easy to mistakenly hit C-w just before (instead of after) the mouse > button is released, so the behavior of this scenario affects the UX for > killing text quickly with the aid of the mouse. Since it's a user error, signaling an error is TRT, IMO. And recovering from the error is easy: "C-x C-x", then "C-w". > The old behavior mostly worked as expected. The new behavior does > something totally different: > > - If mark-even-if-inactive is nil, then it will fail but also deselect > the region, so the user has to start over. > > - If mark-even-if-inactive is non-nil, then it will succeed but will > mostly likely kill the wrong region (the previously marked region). What Emacs does when the user makes an error is not well defined. The above just shows that we changed one undefined behavior for another. > This makes killing text selected by the mouse unnecessarily fragile. I don't think it's right to call this fragile, as we are talking about reaction to a clear user error. It is IMO unreasonable to expect Emacs development to proceed with 100% bug-compatibility to previous undefined behaviors. So I think this is not a bug at all, but a reasonable consequence of Emacs development. I understand that it gets in the way with your muscle memory, but I think the way to overcome that is by changing your customizations and/or habits. Sorry, I see no other way. From debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Tue Nov 28 21:09:10 2017 Received: (at 24563) by debbugs.gnu.org; 29 Nov 2017 02:09:10 +0000 Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:35428 helo=debbugs.gnu.org) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1eJroE-0005m0-5K for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Tue, 28 Nov 2017 21:09:10 -0500 Received: from mail-io0-f171.google.com ([209.85.223.171]:33711) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1eJroB-0005le-Tv; Tue, 28 Nov 2017 21:09:08 -0500 Received: by mail-io0-f171.google.com with SMTP id t196so2128537iof.0; Tue, 28 Nov 2017 18:09:07 -0800 (PST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20161025; h=sender:from:to:cc:subject:references:date:in-reply-to:message-id :user-agent:mime-version; bh=+2apdvkTL71UWOnX2+49W3IWNLr6BljRIQ4WmXuinLc=; b=girjUJbm0Uday8BMDPQTGNOOThbB/zTIpST6IyW0VexvkHd0BvyiVA0jbAW92qW0mK 7SFHtfBSk85GP6dy2NgUSQr/p6Ict4Td1mA23diC1hUtOgW+KeNWaC+gsRKBnGIeLdHa fXHQux69sHc9q1hTcU0mT00hbPvW1/NXc1r9mFzJXWFm7n4J4js6WUYuSNDjIb2Uzmk2 08yEqIjXYGwtHaS1RDomhg+Ckx5VOzyVzybP1U2U9n5X5jL8AGfeKUxAYofOoX0OKpTp YnizkO/stFoeEfN0yFYk2BLPXMK7TEfghJ6fyIRxQrzg+v9/lkgMrGvsVl/MPgrnkden HndQ== X-Google-DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=1e100.net; s=20161025; h=x-gm-message-state:sender:from:to:cc:subject:references:date :in-reply-to:message-id:user-agent:mime-version; bh=+2apdvkTL71UWOnX2+49W3IWNLr6BljRIQ4WmXuinLc=; b=WUlKAt8wfinBkF3GMcZOXo5JG+6JpDs9VRPd4sZZ9o7Q4bOoOo6oAT72vhHC/wvRvg z9cWYMaZSvaMNajfAU/Xjrd8iubbNGSPszTUBbRp7BPacRxFApXZbDY2k9gCm07SX/9U uwU26409/dSsPUuzXl1H6APE4revJtUBBWDkKzrIgyFKf6+kyDfO3rb3PYsODPvulSU6 nqebymeXHfQ/gGCDkqk2Qwi5OYOfe0znZdC7vKbkFZxPLKQWHQ18odAP1qI0uxnZUqls BbeX+S59XOXw4BH9k1zcVGbDj7hur/JYO2udAUbio3kRmjjV5ZVZOKEQg6tJkd3O5sXN 1oww== X-Gm-Message-State: AJaThX4zdmC9Dp9QfpQhnbSyKlJ9h1n0qQF5kv5MYMtWkoW9s7hZ+ja9 9WgDmbaImhQNsAwuUWi8bEm+ByhN X-Google-Smtp-Source: AGs4zMb5K1m0boFXhMmi1K/1zImnhQHzegSx/oV8qXqzEqdBq+mco10WyG5MA90ktPLQZb4i7aqRkA== X-Received: by 10.107.16.206 with SMTP id 75mr1591336ioq.83.1511921342240; Tue, 28 Nov 2017 18:09:02 -0800 (PST) Received: from zebian ([45.2.119.34]) by smtp.googlemail.com with ESMTPSA id 128sm481078ite.4.2017.11.28.18.09.00 (version=TLS1_2 cipher=ECDHE-RSA-CHACHA20-POLY1305 bits=256/256); Tue, 28 Nov 2017 18:09:01 -0800 (PST) From: Noam Postavsky To: Eli Zaretskii Subject: Re: bug#24563: kill-region fails while dragging a selection References: <1475087444.2530471.739981057.71960B2F@webmail.messagingengine.com> <8360peoh0t.fsf@gnu.org> <1475270941.1149562.742366889.33873F48@webmail.messagingengine.com> <837f9smrkk.fsf@gnu.org> Date: Tue, 28 Nov 2017 21:09:00 -0500 In-Reply-To: <837f9smrkk.fsf@gnu.org> (Eli Zaretskii's message of "Sat, 01 Oct 2016 10:55:23 +0300") Message-ID: <87shcxlttv.fsf@users.sourceforge.net> User-Agent: Gnus/5.13 (Gnus v5.13) Emacs/26.0.90 (gnu/linux) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain X-Spam-Score: -0.0 (/) X-Debbugs-Envelope-To: 24563 Cc: 24563@debbugs.gnu.org, Phil Ruffwind X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18 Precedence: list List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Sender: "Debbugs-submit" X-Spam-Score: -0.0 (/) tags 24563 notabug wontfix close 24563 quit Eli Zaretskii writes: > Since it's a user error, signaling an error is TRT, IMO. And > recovering from the error is easy: "C-x C-x", then "C-w". > So I think this is not a bug at all, but a reasonable consequence of > Emacs development. I understand that it gets in the way with your > muscle memory, but I think the way to overcome that is by changing > your customizations and/or habits. Sorry, I see no other way. Seems there is nothing more to say. From unknown Fri Aug 15 02:05:09 2025 Received: (at fakecontrol) by fakecontrolmessage; To: internal_control@debbugs.gnu.org From: Debbugs Internal Request Subject: Internal Control Message-Id: bug archived. Date: Wed, 27 Dec 2017 12:24:06 +0000 User-Agent: Fakemail v42.6.9 # This is a fake control message. # # The action: # bug archived. thanks # This fakemail brought to you by your local debbugs # administrator