From unknown Sat Jun 21 10:42:37 2025 Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: MIME-tools 5.509 (Entity 5.509) Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 From: bug#24551 <24551@debbugs.gnu.org> To: bug#24551 <24551@debbugs.gnu.org> Subject: Status: who doesn't read what man page says it does, so doesn't work Reply-To: bug#24551 <24551@debbugs.gnu.org> Date: Sat, 21 Jun 2025 17:42:37 +0000 retitle 24551 who doesn't read what man page says it does, so doesn't work reassign 24551 coreutils submitter 24551 "L. A. Walsh" severity 24551 normal tag 24551 notabug thanks From debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Mon Sep 26 21:41:04 2016 Received: (at submit) by debbugs.gnu.org; 27 Sep 2016 01:41:04 +0000 Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:36792 helo=debbugs.gnu.org) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1bohOK-0001Rj-KT for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Mon, 26 Sep 2016 21:41:04 -0400 Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([208.118.235.92]:46737) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1bohOJ-0001R6-2I for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Mon, 26 Sep 2016 21:41:03 -0400 Received: from Debian-exim by eggs.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1bohOC-00045W-VK for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Mon, 26 Sep 2016 21:40:57 -0400 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.3.2 (2011-06-06) on eggs.gnu.org X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=0.8 required=5.0 tests=BAYES_50 autolearn=disabled version=3.3.2 Received: from lists.gnu.org ([2001:4830:134:3::11]:58446) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1bohOC-00045B-SI for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Mon, 26 Sep 2016 21:40:56 -0400 Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([2001:4830:134:3::10]:37703) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1bohOA-0005wy-K1 for bug-coreutils@gnu.org; Mon, 26 Sep 2016 21:40:55 -0400 Received: from Debian-exim by eggs.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1bohO6-00043W-JO for bug-coreutils@gnu.org; Mon, 26 Sep 2016 21:40:54 -0400 Received: from ishtar.tlinx.org ([173.164.175.65]:33754 helo=Ishtar.sc.tlinx.org) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1bohO6-00040Z-49 for bug-coreutils@gnu.org; Mon, 26 Sep 2016 21:40:50 -0400 Received: from [192.168.3.12] (Athenae [192.168.3.12]) by Ishtar.sc.tlinx.org (8.14.7/8.14.4/SuSE Linux 0.8) with ESMTP id u8R8eLPq017277 for ; Tue, 27 Sep 2016 01:40:24 -0700 Message-ID: <57E9CE0D.9090004@tlinx.org> Date: Mon, 26 Sep 2016 18:40:29 -0700 From: "L. A. Walsh" User-Agent: Thunderbird MIME-Version: 1.0 To: bug-coreutils@gnu.org Subject: who doesn't read what man page says it does, so doesn't work Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-detected-operating-system: by eggs.gnu.org: GNU/Linux 2.2.x-3.x (no timestamps) [generic] X-detected-operating-system: by eggs.gnu.org: GNU/Linux 2.6.x X-Received-From: 2001:4830:134:3::11 X-Spam-Score: -5.0 (-----) X-Debbugs-Envelope-To: submit X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18 Precedence: list List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Sender: "Debbugs-submit" X-Spam-Score: -5.0 (-----) coreutils-8.23 x64 manpage says: If FILE is not specified, use /var/run/utmp. /var/log/wtmp as FILE is common. If ARG1 ARG2 given, -m presumed: 'am i' or 'mom likes' are usual. Behavior says: access("/var/run/utmpx", F_OK) = -1 ENOENT (No such file or directory) open("/var/run/utmp", O_RDONLY|O_CLOEXEC) = -1 ENOENT (No such file or directory) access("/var/run/utmpx", F_OK) = -1 ENOENT (No such file or directory) open("/var/run/utmp", O_RDONLY|O_CLOEXEC) = -1 ENOENT (No such file or directory) close(1) = 0 close(2) = 0 exit_group(0) = ? +++ exited with 0 +++ --- just so happens my 'who' record is in /var/log/wtmp, and hacking in a softlink on the ephemeral /var/run/utmp to the 2nd listed location will make the 'who' command function until the next reboot. Has this been fixed (or is this a suse special)? That it accesses the same file twice in a row instead of two separate files seems a bit odd. 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Walsh" , 24551@debbugs.gnu.org References: <57E9CE0D.9090004@tlinx.org> From: Assaf Gordon Message-ID: <0e6442ce-a9ff-7626-10d7-cedf312ff521@gmail.com> Date: Sun, 28 Oct 2018 01:01:28 -0600 User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; Linux x86_64; rv:60.0) Gecko/20100101 Thunderbird/60.2.1 MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: <57E9CE0D.9090004@tlinx.org> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8; format=flowed Content-Language: en-US Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-Spam-Score: -0.0 (/) X-Debbugs-Envelope-To: 24551 X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18 Precedence: list List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Sender: "Debbugs-submit" X-Spam-Score: -1.0 (-) tags 24551 notabug close 24551 stop (triaging old bugs) It seems your message was lost and not replied to in 2 years. Sorry about that. On 2016-09-26 7:40 p.m., L. A. Walsh wrote: > manpage says: >  If  FILE is not specified, use /var/run/utmp.  /var/log/wtmp as FILE is >  common. [...] >    Behavior says: > access("/var/run/utmpx", F_OK)          = -1 ENOENT (No such file or > directory) > open("/var/run/utmp", O_RDONLY|O_CLOEXEC) = -1 ENOENT (No such file or > directory) This seems like the behavior is exactly as described: The manual says "/var/run/utmp", and the open syscall was performed on "/var/run/utmp" As such, I'm marking this as 'notabug'. 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