From unknown Fri Aug 15 16:01:34 2025 X-Loop: help-debbugs@gnu.org Subject: bug#24484: 25.1; Wrong key for `dired-do-compress-to' Resent-From: Drew Adams Original-Sender: "Debbugs-submit" Resent-CC: bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org Resent-Date: Tue, 20 Sep 2016 18:04:01 +0000 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-Sender: help-debbugs@gnu.org X-GNU-PR-Message: report 24484 X-GNU-PR-Package: emacs X-GNU-PR-Keywords: To: 24484@debbugs.gnu.org X-Debbugs-Original-To: bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org Received: via spool by submit@debbugs.gnu.org id=B.14743946002281 (code B ref -1); Tue, 20 Sep 2016 18:04:01 +0000 Received: (at submit) by debbugs.gnu.org; 20 Sep 2016 18:03:20 +0000 Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:58454 helo=debbugs.gnu.org) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1bmPO3-0000ai-Ts for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Tue, 20 Sep 2016 14:03:20 -0400 Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([208.118.235.92]:40888) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1bmPO2-0000aT-8l for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Tue, 20 Sep 2016 14:03:18 -0400 Received: from Debian-exim by eggs.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1bmPNw-0005Ra-Fi for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Tue, 20 Sep 2016 14:03:13 -0400 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.3.2 (2011-06-06) on eggs.gnu.org X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=0.8 required=5.0 tests=BAYES_50 autolearn=disabled version=3.3.2 Received: from lists.gnu.org ([2001:4830:134:3::11]:50880) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1bmPNw-0005R3-Ct for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Tue, 20 Sep 2016 14:03:12 -0400 Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([2001:4830:134:3::10]:60090) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1bmPNu-0002UG-48 for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Tue, 20 Sep 2016 14:03:11 -0400 Received: from Debian-exim by eggs.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1bmPNp-0005OA-Vy for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Tue, 20 Sep 2016 14:03:09 -0400 Received: from aserp1040.oracle.com ([141.146.126.69]:25410) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1bmPNp-0005Nk-OE for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Tue, 20 Sep 2016 14:03:05 -0400 Received: from aserv0022.oracle.com (aserv0022.oracle.com [141.146.126.234]) by aserp1040.oracle.com (Sentrion-MTA-4.3.2/Sentrion-MTA-4.3.2) with ESMTP id u8KI34SI024194 (version=TLSv1.2 cipher=ECDHE-RSA-AES256-GCM-SHA384 bits=256 verify=OK) for ; Tue, 20 Sep 2016 18:03:04 GMT Received: from userv0121.oracle.com (userv0121.oracle.com [156.151.31.72]) by aserv0022.oracle.com (8.14.4/8.14.4) with ESMTP id u8KI3302022585 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA bits=256 verify=OK) for ; Tue, 20 Sep 2016 18:03:04 GMT Received: from abhmp0013.oracle.com (abhmp0013.oracle.com [141.146.116.19]) by userv0121.oracle.com (8.13.8/8.13.8) with ESMTP id u8KI2v1m001026 for ; Tue, 20 Sep 2016 18:03:03 GMT MIME-Version: 1.0 Message-ID: <1d676fa7-b331-4cd9-898e-626be5c7c7e0@default> Date: Tue, 20 Sep 2016 11:02:51 -0700 (PDT) From: Drew Adams X-Priority: 3 X-Mailer: Oracle Beehive Extensions for Outlook 2.0.1.9 (901082) [OL 12.0.6753.5000 (x86)] Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-Source-IP: aserv0022.oracle.com [141.146.126.234] X-detected-operating-system: by eggs.gnu.org: GNU/Linux 2.4.x-2.6.x [generic] X-detected-operating-system: by eggs.gnu.org: GNU/Linux 2.6.x X-Received-From: 2001:4830:134:3::11 X-Spam-Score: -4.0 (----) X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18 Precedence: list List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Sender: "Debbugs-submit" X-Spam-Score: -4.0 (----) Emacs 25.1 devotes `c' to the new command `dired-do-compress-to', unfortunately. Letter keys for`dired-do-*' commands are generally uppercase. There are few exceptions: `k', `l', and `x'. Please consider using `M-z' or `K' (uppercase k) instead for `dired-do-compress-to'. (Also, `c' is bound by Francis J. Wright's library `dired-sort-menu.el' to `dired-sort-menu-toggle-ignore-case', which toggles ls-lisp switch =E2=80=98ls-lisp-ignore-case=E2=80=99 and updates the buffer.) (There is also a typo in the doc string of `dired-compress-files-alist': "the the".) In GNU Emacs 25.1.1 (x86_64-w64-mingw32) of 2016-09-17 Windowing system distributor `Microsoft Corp.', version 6.1.7601 Configured using: `configure --without-dbus --without-compress-install CFLAGS=3D-static' From unknown Fri Aug 15 16:01:34 2025 X-Loop: help-debbugs@gnu.org Subject: bug#24484: 25.1; Wrong key for `dired-do-compress-to' Resent-From: Lars Ingebrigtsen Original-Sender: "Debbugs-submit" Resent-CC: bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org Resent-Date: Sat, 27 Jul 2019 14:41:02 +0000 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-Sender: help-debbugs@gnu.org X-GNU-PR-Message: followup 24484 X-GNU-PR-Package: emacs X-GNU-PR-Keywords: To: Drew Adams Cc: 24484@debbugs.gnu.org Received: via spool by 24484-submit@debbugs.gnu.org id=B24484.156423841527415 (code B ref 24484); Sat, 27 Jul 2019 14:41:02 +0000 Received: (at 24484) by debbugs.gnu.org; 27 Jul 2019 14:40:15 +0000 Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:45133 helo=debbugs.gnu.org) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1hrNrr-000786-3O for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Sat, 27 Jul 2019 10:40:15 -0400 Received: from quimby.gnus.org ([80.91.231.51]:39874) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1hrNro-00077u-6V for 24484@debbugs.gnu.org; Sat, 27 Jul 2019 10:40:13 -0400 Received: from cm-84.212.202.86.getinternet.no ([84.212.202.86] helo=marnie) by quimby.gnus.org with esmtpsa (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.89) (envelope-from ) id 1hrNrl-0001mH-0X; Sat, 27 Jul 2019 16:40:11 +0200 From: Lars Ingebrigtsen References: <1d676fa7-b331-4cd9-898e-626be5c7c7e0@default> Date: Sat, 27 Jul 2019 16:40:08 +0200 In-Reply-To: <1d676fa7-b331-4cd9-898e-626be5c7c7e0@default> (Drew Adams's message of "Tue, 20 Sep 2016 11:02:51 -0700 (PDT)") Message-ID: <87sgqrfsmv.fsf@mouse.gnus.org> User-Agent: Gnus/5.13 (Gnus v5.13) Emacs/27.0.50 (gnu/linux) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain X-Spam-Report: Spam detection software, running on the system "quimby.gnus.org", has NOT identified this incoming email as spam. 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Content preview: Drew Adams writes: > Emacs 25.1 devotes `c' to the new command > `dired-do-compress-to', unfortunately. > > Letter keys for`dired-do-*' commands are generally uppercase. > There are few exceptions: `k', `l', and `x'. > [...] Content analysis details: (-2.9 points, 5.0 required) pts rule name description ---- ---------------------- -------------------------------------------------- -1.0 ALL_TRUSTED Passed through trusted hosts only via SMTP -1.9 BAYES_00 BODY: Bayes spam probability is 0 to 1% [score: 0.0000] X-Spam-Score: 0.0 (/) X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18 Precedence: list List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Sender: "Debbugs-submit" X-Spam-Score: -1.0 (-) Drew Adams writes: > Emacs 25.1 devotes `c' to the new command > `dired-do-compress-to', unfortunately. > > Letter keys for`dired-do-*' commands are generally uppercase. > There are few exceptions: `k', `l', and `x'. > > Please consider using `M-z' or `K' (uppercase k) instead for > `dired-do-compress-to'. The binding has now been in place for years, so I think it's too late to change now; closing. > (There is also a typo in the doc string of `dired-compress-files-alist': > "the the".) Looks like this was fixed by: commit 8e40429c960a9dd42103be9c41db5a3af7f9ee25 Author: Glenn Morris Date: Wed Nov 22 17:52:11 2017 -0500 ; Fix some doc typos -- (domestic pets only, the antidote for overdose, milk.) bloggy blog: http://lars.ingebrigtsen.no From debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Sat Jul 27 10:40:20 2019 Received: (at control) by debbugs.gnu.org; 27 Jul 2019 14:40:20 +0000 Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:45136 helo=debbugs.gnu.org) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1hrNrw-00078Q-FO for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Sat, 27 Jul 2019 10:40:20 -0400 Received: from quimby.gnus.org ([80.91.231.51]:39888) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1hrNru-00078I-Tl for control@debbugs.gnu.org; Sat, 27 Jul 2019 10:40:19 -0400 Received: from cm-84.212.202.86.getinternet.no ([84.212.202.86] helo=marnie) by quimby.gnus.org with esmtpsa (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.89) (envelope-from ) id 1hrNrs-0001mP-9d for control@debbugs.gnu.org; Sat, 27 Jul 2019 16:40:18 +0200 Date: Sat, 27 Jul 2019 16:40:15 +0200 Message-Id: <87r26bfsmo.fsf@mouse.gnus.org> To: control@debbugs.gnu.org From: Lars Ingebrigtsen Subject: control message for bug #24484 X-Spam-Report: Spam detection software, running on the system "quimby.gnus.org", has NOT identified this incoming email as spam. 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Content preview: tags 24484 wontfix close 24484 quit Content analysis details: (-2.9 points, 5.0 required) pts rule name description ---- ---------------------- -------------------------------------------------- -1.0 ALL_TRUSTED Passed through trusted hosts only via SMTP -1.9 BAYES_00 BODY: Bayes spam probability is 0 to 1% [score: 0.0000] X-Spam-Score: 0.0 (/) X-Debbugs-Envelope-To: control X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18 Precedence: list List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Sender: "Debbugs-submit" X-Spam-Score: -1.0 (-) tags 24484 wontfix close 24484 quit From unknown Fri Aug 15 16:01:34 2025 X-Loop: help-debbugs@gnu.org Subject: bug#24484: 25.1; Wrong key for `dired-do-compress-to' Resent-From: Drew Adams Original-Sender: "Debbugs-submit" Resent-CC: bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org Resent-Date: Sat, 27 Jul 2019 16:30:02 +0000 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-Sender: help-debbugs@gnu.org X-GNU-PR-Message: followup 24484 X-GNU-PR-Package: emacs X-GNU-PR-Keywords: wontfix To: Lars Ingebrigtsen Cc: 24484@debbugs.gnu.org Received: via spool by 24484-submit@debbugs.gnu.org id=B24484.15642449879659 (code B ref 24484); 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charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-Proofpoint-Virus-Version: vendor=nai engine=6000 definitions=9331 signatures=668685 X-Proofpoint-Spam-Details: rule=notspam policy=default score=0 suspectscore=0 malwarescore=0 phishscore=0 bulkscore=0 spamscore=0 mlxscore=0 mlxlogscore=999 adultscore=0 classifier=spam adjust=0 reason=mlx scancount=1 engine=8.0.1-1906280000 definitions=main-1907270207 X-Proofpoint-Virus-Version: vendor=nai engine=6000 definitions=9331 signatures=668685 X-Proofpoint-Spam-Details: rule=notspam policy=default score=0 priorityscore=1501 malwarescore=0 suspectscore=0 phishscore=0 bulkscore=0 spamscore=0 clxscore=1011 lowpriorityscore=0 mlxscore=0 impostorscore=0 mlxlogscore=999 adultscore=0 classifier=spam adjust=0 reason=mlx scancount=1 engine=8.0.1-1906280000 definitions=main-1907270207 X-Spam-Score: -2.3 (--) X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18 Precedence: list List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Sender: "Debbugs-submit" X-Spam-Score: -3.3 (---) > > Emacs 25.1 devotes `c' to the new command > > `dired-do-compress-to', unfortunately. > > > > Letter keys for`dired-do-*' commands are generally uppercase. > > There are few exceptions: `k', `l', and `x'. > > > > Please consider using `M-z' or `K' (uppercase k) instead for > > `dired-do-compress-to'. >=20 > The binding has now been in place for years, so I think it's too late > to change now; closing. That's not a good enough reason, IMO. Emacs 25 is not very old, and it's unlikely that changing the _default_ binding of this command would impact users negatively. Keys involving character `c' are used, in Dired, for "copy", "comment", and "change" (marks). Keys for compressing/uncompressing use char `z'. And we use lowercase chars in Dired for other kinds of things than `dired-do-*'. In keeping with the use of char `z' for compressing and uncompressing. Dired+ uses `M-z' for `dired-do-compress-to'. I suggest that vanilla Dired do likewise.