From debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Mon Sep 12 16:02:14 2016 Received: (at submit) by debbugs.gnu.org; 12 Sep 2016 20:02:14 +0000 Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:57962 helo=debbugs.gnu.org) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1bjXQj-0004Wh-NO for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Mon, 12 Sep 2016 16:02:13 -0400 Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([208.118.235.92]:45607) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1bjXMa-0004ON-NA for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Mon, 12 Sep 2016 15:57:57 -0400 Received: from Debian-exim by eggs.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1bjXMS-0000lw-5A for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Mon, 12 Sep 2016 15:57:51 -0400 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.3.2 (2011-06-06) on eggs.gnu.org X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-0.0 required=5.0 tests=BAYES_20 autolearn=disabled version=3.3.2 Received: from lists.gnu.org ([2001:4830:134:3::11]:36379) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1bjXMS-0000lj-2a for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Mon, 12 Sep 2016 15:57:48 -0400 Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([2001:4830:134:3::10]:36527) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1bjXML-0003E0-W2 for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Mon, 12 Sep 2016 15:57:47 -0400 Received: from Debian-exim by eggs.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1bjXMH-0000hc-Qz for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Mon, 12 Sep 2016 15:57:41 -0400 Received: from vaj.namazu.org ([202.221.179.42]:53732) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1bjXMH-0000eh-Hy for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Mon, 12 Sep 2016 15:57:37 -0400 Received: from vaj.namazu.org (vaj.namazu.org [202.221.179.42]) by vaj.namazu.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 24D9B263C46; Tue, 13 Sep 2016 04:57:27 +0900 (JST) From: TSUCHIYA Masatoshi To: bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org Subject: Proposal to create `sieve-manage-ignore-broken-tls' option User-Agent: Gnus/5.130014 (Ma Gnus v0.14) Emacs/24.4 (gnu/linux) X-Cite-Me: =?iso-2022-jp?B?GyRCRVobKEI=?= Date: Mon, 12 Sep 2016 15:57:24 -0400 Message-ID: <87k2egsxgb.fsf@tsuchiya.vaj.namazu.org> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/signed; boundary="==-=-="; micalg=pgp-sha1; protocol="application/pgp-signature" X-detected-operating-system: by eggs.gnu.org: GNU/Linux 2.2.x-3.x [generic] X-detected-operating-system: by eggs.gnu.org: GNU/Linux 2.6.x X-Received-From: 2001:4830:134:3::11 X-Spam-Score: -5.0 (-----) X-Debbugs-Envelope-To: submit X-Mailman-Approved-At: Mon, 12 Sep 2016 16:02:12 -0400 X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18 Precedence: list List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Sender: "Debbugs-submit" X-Spam-Score: -5.0 (-----) --==-=-= Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="=-=-=" --=-=-= Content-Type: text/plain Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Hi, When accessing a managesieve server which provides broken TLS connections, it is quite useful that sieve-manage-open-server() ignores STARTTLS capability. Therefore, I propose the following patch. Regards, =2D-=20 TSUCHIYA Masatoshi --=-=-= Content-Type: text/x-diff Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable =2D-- a/lisp/sieve-manage.el +++ b/lisp/sieve-manage.el @@ -147,6 +147,11 @@ for doing the actual authentication." :type 'symbol :group 'sieve-manage) =20 +(defcustom sieve-manage-ignore-broken-tls nil + "Ignore STARTTLS even if STARTTLS capability is provided." + :type 'boolean + :group 'sieve-manage) + ;; Internal variables: =20 (defconst sieve-manage-local-variables '(sieve-manage-server @@ -211,14 +216,16 @@ Return the buffer associated with the connection." :return-list t :starttls-function (lambda (capabilities) =2D (when (string-match "\\bSTARTTLS\\b" capabilities) =2D "STARTTLS\r\n"))) + (when (and (not sieve-manage-ignore-broken-tls) + (string-match "\\bSTARTTLS\\b" capabilities)) + "STARTTLS\r\n"))) (setq sieve-manage-process proc) (setq sieve-manage-capability (sieve-manage-parse-capability (plist-get props :capabilities)= )) ;; Ignore new capabilities issues after successful STARTTLS =2D (when (and (memq stream '(nil network starttls)) =2D (eq (plist-get props :type) 'tls)) + (when (or sieve-manage-ignore-broken-tls + (and (memq stream '(nil network starttls)) + (eq (plist-get props :type) 'tls))) (sieve-manage-drop-next-answer)) (current-buffer)))) =20 --=-=-=-- --==-=-= Content-Type: application/pgp-signature; name="signature.asc" -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v2 iEYEARECAAYFAlfXCKQACgkQ+Iw/tfZVWLLvogCfdZ1zwTk5kparVVy2amnLiAvd cd0AnRd1h0IbBoxYSVDZ8p/qzSRj89b8 =+o9u -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --==-=-=-- From debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Mon Sep 12 19:08:42 2016 Received: (at 24422-done) by debbugs.gnu.org; 12 Sep 2016 23:08:43 +0000 Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:58022 helo=debbugs.gnu.org) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1bjaLC-00025A-O8 for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Mon, 12 Sep 2016 19:08:42 -0400 Received: from mail-hampton.hostforweb.net ([205.234.186.191]:40791 helo=hampton.hostforweb.net) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1bjaLB-00024x-VE for 24422-done@debbugs.gnu.org; Mon, 12 Sep 2016 19:08:42 -0400 Received: from s70.gtokyofl21.vectant.ne.jp ([202.215.75.70]:60000 helo=localhost) by hampton.hostforweb.net with esmtpsa (TLSv1.2:ECDHE-RSA-AES128-GCM-SHA256:128) (Exim 4.87) (envelope-from ) id 1bjaL4-000mZA-5G; Mon, 12 Sep 2016 18:08:35 -0500 Date: Tue, 13 Sep 2016 08:08:37 +0900 Message-ID: From: Katsumi Yamaoka To: tsuchiya@namazu.org Subject: Re: bug#24422: Proposal to create `sieve-manage-ignore-broken-tls' option References: <87k2egsxgb.fsf@tsuchiya.vaj.namazu.org> Organization: Emacsen advocacy group X-Face: #kKnN,xUnmKia.'[pp`; Omh}odZK)?7wQSl"4o04=EixTF+V[""w~iNbM9ZL+.b*_CxUmFk B#Fu[*?MZZH@IkN:!"\w%I_zt>[$nm7nQosZ<3eu; B:$Q_:p!',P.c0-_Cy[dz4oIpw0ESA^D*1Lw= L&i*6&( User-Agent: Gnus/5.13 (Gnus v5.13) Emacs/25.1.50 (i686-pc-cygwin) Cancel-Lock: sha1:SKjtzmrfG2HUpNUC/pjc1X9Bnm4= MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-OutGoing-Spam-Status: No, score=-2.9 X-AntiAbuse: This header was added to track abuse, please include it with any abuse report X-AntiAbuse: Primary Hostname - hampton.hostforweb.net X-AntiAbuse: Original Domain - debbugs.gnu.org X-AntiAbuse: Originator/Caller UID/GID - [47 12] / [47 12] X-AntiAbuse: Sender Address Domain - jpl.org X-Get-Message-Sender-Via: hampton.hostforweb.net: authenticated_id: yamaoka/from_h X-Authenticated-Sender: hampton.hostforweb.net: yamaoka@jpl.org X-Source: X-Source-Args: X-Source-Dir: X-Spam-Score: -0.7 (/) X-Debbugs-Envelope-To: 24422-done Cc: 24422-done@debbugs.gnu.org X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18 Precedence: list List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Sender: "Debbugs-submit" X-Spam-Score: -0.7 (/) On Mon, 12 Sep 2016 15:57:24 -0400, TSUCHIYA Masatoshi wrote: > When accessing a managesieve server which provides broken TLS > connections, it is quite useful that sieve-manage-open-server() ignores > STARTTLS capability. Therefore, I propose the following patch. The patch looks fine and not likely to cause a trouble. I've committed it in the Emacs master with this log entry: sieve-manage.el: Allow user to avoid STARTTLS capability test (bug#24422) * lisp/net/sieve-manage.el (sieve-manage-ignore-broken-tls): New user option. (sieve-manage-open-server): Don't test STARTTLS capability if the option is set (bug#24422). Thanks. 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[98.229.60.157]) by smtp.gmail.com with ESMTPSA id p74sm31298286pfk.68.2016.09.13.06.21.51 (version=TLS1_2 cipher=ECDHE-RSA-AES128-GCM-SHA256 bits=128/128); Tue, 13 Sep 2016 06:21:53 -0700 (PDT) From: Ted Zlatanov To: 24422@debbugs.gnu.org Subject: Re: bug#24422: Proposal to create `sieve-manage-ignore-broken-tls' option Organization: =?utf-8?B?0KLQtdC+0LTQvtGAINCX0LvQsNGC0LDQvdC+0LI=?= @ Cienfuegos References: <87k2egsxgb.fsf@tsuchiya.vaj.namazu.org> X-Face: bd.DQ~'29fIs`T_%O%C\g%6jW)yi[zuz6; d4V0`@y-~$#3P_Ng{@m+e4o<4P'#(_GJQ%TT= D}[Ep*b!\e,fBZ'j_+#"Ps?s2!4H2-Y"sx" Mail-Copies-To: never Gmane-Reply-To-List: yes Date: Tue, 13 Sep 2016 09:21:48 -0400 In-Reply-To: (Katsumi Yamaoka's message of "Tue, 13 Sep 2016 08:08:37 +0900") Message-ID: <87fup4gck3.fsf@lifelogs.com> User-Agent: Gnus/5.13 (Gnus v5.13) Emacs/25.1.50 (gnu/linux) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain X-Spam-Score: -0.7 (/) X-Debbugs-Envelope-To: 24422 Cc: yamaoka@jpl.org, tsuchiya@namazu.org X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18 Precedence: list List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Sender: "Debbugs-submit" X-Spam-Score: -0.7 (/) On Tue, 13 Sep 2016 08:08:37 +0900 Katsumi Yamaoka wrote: KY> On Mon, 12 Sep 2016 15:57:24 -0400, TSUCHIYA Masatoshi wrote: >> When accessing a managesieve server which provides broken TLS >> connections, it is quite useful that sieve-manage-open-server() ignores >> STARTTLS capability. Therefore, I propose the following patch. KY> The patch looks fine and not likely to cause a trouble. I've KY> committed it in the Emacs master with this log entry: KY> sieve-manage.el: Allow user to avoid STARTTLS capability test (bug#24422) KY> * lisp/net/sieve-manage.el KY> (sieve-manage-ignore-broken-tls): New user option. KY> (sieve-manage-open-server): KY> Don't test STARTTLS capability if the option is set (bug#24422). I think the option is badly named. It doesn't ignore broken TLS (whatever that means), it avoids STARTTLS altogether. So maybe it should be `sieve-manage-ignore-starttls' or something like that. Ted From debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Tue Sep 13 20:08:25 2016 Received: (at 24422) by debbugs.gnu.org; 14 Sep 2016 00:08:25 +0000 Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:58996 helo=debbugs.gnu.org) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1bjxkX-0007rh-8u for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Tue, 13 Sep 2016 20:08:25 -0400 Received: from mail-hampton.hostforweb.net ([205.234.186.191]:36882 helo=hampton.hostforweb.net) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1bjxkW-0007rV-17 for 24422@debbugs.gnu.org; Tue, 13 Sep 2016 20:08:24 -0400 Received: from s70.gtokyofl21.vectant.ne.jp ([202.215.75.70]:60000 helo=localhost) by hampton.hostforweb.net with esmtpsa (TLSv1.2:ECDHE-RSA-AES128-GCM-SHA256:128) (Exim 4.87) (envelope-from ) id 1bjxkO-001rQN-9a; Tue, 13 Sep 2016 19:08:17 -0500 Date: Wed, 14 Sep 2016 09:08:17 +0900 Message-ID: From: Katsumi Yamaoka To: 24422@debbugs.gnu.org Subject: Re: bug#24422: Proposal to create `sieve-manage-ignore-broken-tls' option References: <87k2egsxgb.fsf@tsuchiya.vaj.namazu.org> <87fup4gck3.fsf@lifelogs.com> Organization: Emacsen advocacy group X-Face: #kKnN,xUnmKia.'[pp`; Omh}odZK)?7wQSl"4o04=EixTF+V[""w~iNbM9ZL+.b*_CxUmFk B#Fu[*?MZZH@IkN:!"\w%I_zt>[$nm7nQosZ<3eu; B:$Q_:p!',P.c0-_Cy[dz4oIpw0ESA^D*1Lw= L&i*6&( User-Agent: Gnus/5.13 (Gnus v5.13) Emacs/25.1.50 (i686-pc-cygwin) Cancel-Lock: sha1:BG4qskl9mZgb4BOrpFkbAVLJVq8= MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-OutGoing-Spam-Status: No, score=-2.9 X-AntiAbuse: This header was added to track abuse, please include it with any abuse report X-AntiAbuse: Primary Hostname - hampton.hostforweb.net X-AntiAbuse: Original Domain - debbugs.gnu.org X-AntiAbuse: Originator/Caller UID/GID - [47 12] / [47 12] X-AntiAbuse: Sender Address Domain - jpl.org X-Get-Message-Sender-Via: hampton.hostforweb.net: authenticated_id: yamaoka/from_h X-Authenticated-Sender: hampton.hostforweb.net: yamaoka@jpl.org X-Source: X-Source-Args: X-Source-Dir: X-Spam-Score: -0.7 (/) X-Debbugs-Envelope-To: 24422 Cc: tsuchiya@namazu.org X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18 Precedence: list List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Sender: "Debbugs-submit" X-Spam-Score: -0.7 (/) On Tue, 13 Sep 2016 09:21:48 -0400, Ted Zlatanov wrote: > On Tue, 13 Sep 2016 08:08:37 +0900 Katsumi Yamaoka wrote: KY> On Mon, 12 Sep 2016 15:57:24 -0400, TSUCHIYA Masatoshi wrote: >>> When accessing a managesieve server which provides broken TLS >>> connections, it is quite useful that sieve-manage-open-server() ignores >>> STARTTLS capability. Therefore, I propose the following patch. KY> The patch looks fine and not likely to cause a trouble. I've KY> committed it in the Emacs master with this log entry: KY> sieve-manage.el: Allow user to avoid STARTTLS capability test (bug#24422) KY> * lisp/net/sieve-manage.el KY> (sieve-manage-ignore-broken-tls): New user option. KY> (sieve-manage-open-server): KY> Don't test STARTTLS capability if the option is set (bug#24422). > I think the option is badly named. It doesn't ignore broken TLS > (whatever that means), it avoids STARTTLS altogether. So maybe it should > be `sieve-manage-ignore-starttls' or something like that. Agreed. I misunderstood what it tries to do. It is irrelevant if the one is broken or not, it simply makes it not use STARTTLS, and the docstring is correct: "Ignore STARTTLS even if STARTTLS capability is provided." I've renamed it as suggested, with this log entry: sieve-manage.el: Rename sieve-manage-ignore-broken-tls * lisp/net/sieve-manage.el (sieve-manage-ignore-starttls): Rename from sieve-manage-ignore-broken-tls. If it is set, sieve-manage will never use STARTTLS even if the server says it is capable (but may be broken). Thanks. 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[98.229.60.157]) by smtp.gmail.com with ESMTPSA id b88sm79233720pfe.66.2016.09.20.06.00.06 (version=TLS1_2 cipher=ECDHE-RSA-AES128-GCM-SHA256 bits=128/128); Tue, 20 Sep 2016 06:00:08 -0700 (PDT) From: Ted Zlatanov To: Katsumi Yamaoka Subject: Re: bug#24422: Proposal to create `sieve-manage-ignore-broken-tls' option Organization: =?utf-8?B?0KLQtdC+0LTQvtGAINCX0LvQsNGC0LDQvdC+0LI=?= @ Cienfuegos References: <87k2egsxgb.fsf@tsuchiya.vaj.namazu.org> <87fup4gck3.fsf@lifelogs.com> X-Face: bd.DQ~'29fIs`T_%O%C\g%6jW)yi[zuz6; d4V0`@y-~$#3P_Ng{@m+e4o<4P'#(_GJQ%TT= D}[Ep*b!\e,fBZ'j_+#"Ps?s2!4H2-Y"sx" Mail-Copies-To: never Gmane-Reply-To-List: yes Date: Tue, 20 Sep 2016 09:00:02 -0400 In-Reply-To: (Katsumi Yamaoka's message of "Wed, 14 Sep 2016 09:08:17 +0900") Message-ID: <87k2e6g20d.fsf@lifelogs.com> User-Agent: Gnus/5.13 (Gnus v5.13) Emacs/25.1.50 (gnu/linux) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain X-Spam-Score: -0.2 (/) X-Debbugs-Envelope-To: 24422 Cc: 24422@debbugs.gnu.org, tsuchiya@namazu.org X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18 Precedence: list List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Sender: "Debbugs-submit" X-Spam-Score: -0.2 (/) On Wed, 14 Sep 2016 09:08:17 +0900 Katsumi Yamaoka wrote: KY> On Tue, 13 Sep 2016 09:21:48 -0400, Ted Zlatanov wrote: >> I think the option is badly named. It doesn't ignore broken TLS >> (whatever that means), it avoids STARTTLS altogether. So maybe it should >> be `sieve-manage-ignore-starttls' or something like that. KY> Agreed. I misunderstood what it tries to do. It is irrelevant KY> if the one is broken or not, it simply makes it not use STARTTLS, KY> and the docstring is correct: KY> "Ignore STARTTLS even if STARTTLS capability is provided." KY> I've renamed it as suggested, with this log entry: KY> sieve-manage.el: Rename sieve-manage-ignore-broken-tls KY> * lisp/net/sieve-manage.el (sieve-manage-ignore-starttls): KY> Rename from sieve-manage-ignore-broken-tls. If it is set, KY> sieve-manage will never use STARTTLS even if the server says KY> it is capable (but may be broken). Thank you, as always!!! This can be marked as done? Ted From debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Tue Sep 20 19:40:30 2016 Received: (at 24422-done) by debbugs.gnu.org; 20 Sep 2016 23:40:31 +0000 Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:58595 helo=debbugs.gnu.org) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1bmUeM-0000T2-Q0 for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Tue, 20 Sep 2016 19:40:30 -0400 Received: from mail-hampton.hostforweb.net ([205.234.186.191]:55436 helo=hampton.hostforweb.net) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1bmUeL-0000Sq-1v for 24422-done@debbugs.gnu.org; Tue, 20 Sep 2016 19:40:29 -0400 Received: from s70.gtokyofl21.vectant.ne.jp ([202.215.75.70]:60000 helo=localhost) by hampton.hostforweb.net with esmtpsa (TLSv1.2:ECDHE-RSA-AES128-GCM-SHA256:128) (Exim 4.87) (envelope-from ) id 1bmUeC-002XPu-M6; Tue, 20 Sep 2016 18:40:21 -0500 Date: Wed, 21 Sep 2016 08:40:18 +0900 Message-ID: From: Katsumi Yamaoka To: 24422-done@debbugs.gnu.org Subject: Re: bug#24422: Proposal to create `sieve-manage-ignore-broken-tls' option References: <87k2egsxgb.fsf@tsuchiya.vaj.namazu.org> <87fup4gck3.fsf@lifelogs.com> <87k2e6g20d.fsf@lifelogs.com> Organization: Emacsen advocacy group X-Face: #kKnN,xUnmKia.'[pp`; Omh}odZK)?7wQSl"4o04=EixTF+V[""w~iNbM9ZL+.b*_CxUmFk B#Fu[*?MZZH@IkN:!"\w%I_zt>[$nm7nQosZ<3eu; B:$Q_:p!',P.c0-_Cy[dz4oIpw0ESA^D*1Lw= L&i*6&( User-Agent: Gnus/5.13 (Gnus v5.13) Emacs/25.1.50 (i686-pc-cygwin) Cancel-Lock: sha1:hgq4KnvhRSUQ/6+UpobLWJI+r1k= MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-OutGoing-Spam-Status: No, score=-2.9 X-AntiAbuse: This header was added to track abuse, please include it with any abuse report X-AntiAbuse: Primary Hostname - hampton.hostforweb.net X-AntiAbuse: Original Domain - debbugs.gnu.org X-AntiAbuse: Originator/Caller UID/GID - [47 12] / [47 12] X-AntiAbuse: Sender Address Domain - jpl.org X-Get-Message-Sender-Via: hampton.hostforweb.net: authenticated_id: yamaoka/from_h X-Authenticated-Sender: hampton.hostforweb.net: yamaoka@jpl.org X-Source: X-Source-Args: X-Source-Dir: X-Spam-Score: -0.7 (/) X-Debbugs-Envelope-To: 24422-done Cc: tsuchiya@namazu.org X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18 Precedence: list List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Sender: "Debbugs-submit" X-Spam-Score: -0.7 (/) On Tue, 20 Sep 2016 09:00:02 -0400, Ted Zlatanov wrote: > Thank you, as always!!! This can be marked as done? Tsuchiya-san seems to have no comment, so I'm closing this bug. Thanks. From unknown Sun Jun 22 11:45:56 2025 Received: (at fakecontrol) by fakecontrolmessage; To: internal_control@debbugs.gnu.org From: Debbugs Internal Request Subject: Internal Control Message-Id: bug archived. Date: Wed, 19 Oct 2016 11:24:03 +0000 User-Agent: Fakemail v42.6.9 # This is a fake control message. # # The action: # bug archived. thanks # This fakemail brought to you by your local debbugs # administrator