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Braden Chancellor" Subject: Re: bug#24284: Few seconds hang on startup, even with emacs -Q References: Date: Thu, 01 Sep 2016 22:49:11 -0400 In-Reply-To: (J. Braden Chancellor's message of "Sun, 21 Aug 2016 16:28:29 -0400") Message-ID: <87fupjow2g.fsf@users.sourceforge.net> User-Agent: Gnus/5.13 (Gnus v5.13) Emacs/25.1 (gnu/linux) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain X-Spam-Score: 0.3 (/) X-Debbugs-Envelope-To: 24284 Cc: 24284@debbugs.gnu.org X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18 Precedence: list List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Sender: "Debbugs-submit" X-Spam-Score: 0.3 (/) "J. Braden Chancellor" writes: > Whenever I open a file, Emacs hangs for a few seconds on the *scratch* buffer before proceeding to the file. The hang is about two seconds on my very fast desktop, > about four seconds on my fast phone, and about six seconds on the decent servers I SSH into over satellite. It occurs whether I open the file normally (emacs > test.txt), open it as a client of the daemon (emacsclient test.txt), or open it without an init file (emacs -Q test.txt). I've encountered this problem on four systems so > far: a desktop running Bash on Ubuntu on Windows (emacs24-nox 24.3.1), a phone running Ubuntu via Termux on Android (emacs 25.0.95-1), a server running > Ubuntu (emacs24-nox 24.5-1), and a server running Arch (emacs-nox 24.5-4 AND emacs25-git 25.1.r125112-1). I haven't seen it on my Fedora desktop (emacs-nox > 25.1-0.2.rc1.fc24) or when using the unofficial emacs-w64 Windows client (emacs 25.0.94.2). I have already tried emacs -Q, completely removing my .emacs and > .emacs.d, mucking about with my /etc/hosts, etc, and building Emacs from source. The only way to avoid the issue is to minimize Emacs (C-z), restore it (%emacs), > and manually open the file I want to edit (C-x C-f). While it isn't a huge problem when staying around in a few files for a while, the seconds really add up when making a > lot of small edits to many different files. If you M-x toggle-debug-on-quit and then C-g during the pause do you get a backtrace? From debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Thu Sep 15 19:58:12 2016 Received: (at 24284) by debbugs.gnu.org; 15 Sep 2016 23:58:12 +0000 Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:60861 helo=debbugs.gnu.org) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1bkgXk-0004Rx-F1 for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Thu, 15 Sep 2016 19:58:12 -0400 Received: from mail-io0-f179.google.com ([209.85.223.179]:35128) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1bkgXi-0004Rd-Ni; Thu, 15 Sep 2016 19:58:11 -0400 Received: by mail-io0-f179.google.com with SMTP id m186so8809268ioa.2; Thu, 15 Sep 2016 16:58:10 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20120113; h=sender:from:to:cc:subject:references:date:in-reply-to:message-id :user-agent:mime-version; bh=yDC6kSIz3acAKknD8cBYthleFOQWS/NL2TlYrGF6UX4=; b=Wym9g+omwsEWSoA3j9skCZyjufFK9k+INnq4o8++jZZCfrmweI98Pj4rEe5Nqq5lFE fpKnpUWYQ0Ltixc0iDNJgkTt1KIVYRLE5RD/l3Z0yD2ocIix6atNRCRd4sJ4vt+WRTjI Kkr0ANmbGdNt/VAXXitaez4cjaBjDAgO+ZfrEQwRQiGGDXRmEY/QyUBjEGEfbpha6YUG YvBVu0soBIEEhnZ3WJmhaabXgX60C0qEcFSSovDAcAD8dSzVsaT86+ZQ5hEb8orovDO8 iSlrIDs8HZG5rSvPLWyKlJ+SeEBzPCAl46UCdCwnifL9uYJ3zx5OQLmwS9+f4b754m4y X1gQ== X-Google-DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=1e100.net; s=20130820; h=x-gm-message-state:sender:from:to:cc:subject:references:date :in-reply-to:message-id:user-agent:mime-version; bh=yDC6kSIz3acAKknD8cBYthleFOQWS/NL2TlYrGF6UX4=; b=CPlk+QgNhz9hIrAjK6/oQbUt4npZ6dIvPDBGpZfhFWVdHrM34tSigJu7LU70tX/6rJ sSw71y2k3+03q9fbe7s4+T76skJKzR+XT/sqL5/XnY1V/n9QpXk31mvIaXM1X5PALYxJ 91Fmsm/sA9xwCANOL8A77N/c9UOjq1/3BVEbEggLCIaWVUF1edz+fI3/LEEdfNbEdiUz EaIBm4/+o6M8eIF6vUngHB2C9Ms33eS4neaV2h/WzauHBZ3o59fa/gnl/aQThu/Uw7sA jfGxyVsCCN8Mf45K7/6UNlCu6Uu7CXTL2sgM2g/coyvNWDaoGnynYFsHS2JEqZfQuDCj tCkg== X-Gm-Message-State: AE9vXwMAyMiZeq1kg0grcBXUwIILqH5xn/tlZRxejBKx5lL7pWiLsvvFljaGeCEQoZSCxQ== X-Received: by 10.107.30.148 with SMTP id e142mr22685681ioe.82.1473983884939; Thu, 15 Sep 2016 16:58:04 -0700 (PDT) Received: from zony ([45.2.7.130]) by smtp.googlemail.com with ESMTPSA id j76sm2186242itb.2.2016.09.15.16.58.03 (version=TLS1_2 cipher=ECDHE-RSA-CHACHA20-POLY1305 bits=256/256); Thu, 15 Sep 2016 16:58:04 -0700 (PDT) From: npostavs@users.sourceforge.net To: "J. Braden Chancellor" Subject: Re: bug#24284: Few seconds hang on startup, even with emacs -Q References: <87fupjow2g.fsf@users.sourceforge.net> Date: Thu, 15 Sep 2016 19:58:28 -0400 In-Reply-To: <87fupjow2g.fsf@users.sourceforge.net> (npostavs@users.sourceforge.net's message of "Thu, 01 Sep 2016 22:49:11 -0400") Message-ID: <87sht0zpej.fsf@users.sourceforge.net> User-Agent: Gnus/5.13 (Gnus v5.13) Emacs/25.1 (gnu/linux) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain X-Spam-Score: -0.7 (/) X-Debbugs-Envelope-To: 24284 Cc: 24284@debbugs.gnu.org X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18 Precedence: list List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Sender: "Debbugs-submit" X-Spam-Score: -0.7 (/) tags 24284 unreproducible moreinfo quit npostavs@users.sourceforge.net writes: > > If you M-x toggle-debug-on-quit and then C-g during the pause do you get > a backtrace? Ping? From debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Wed Dec 07 15:35:10 2016 Received: (at control) by debbugs.gnu.org; 7 Dec 2016 20:35:10 +0000 Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:60253 helo=debbugs.gnu.org) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1cEivm-0003tf-9L for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Wed, 07 Dec 2016 15:35:10 -0500 Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([208.118.235.92]:46653) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1cEivk-0003t5-UT for control@debbugs.gnu.org; Wed, 07 Dec 2016 15:35:09 -0500 Received: from Debian-exim by eggs.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1cEivf-0004IL-7h for control@debbugs.gnu.org; Wed, 07 Dec 2016 15:35:03 -0500 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.3.2 (2011-06-06) on eggs.gnu.org X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-4.9 required=5.0 tests=BAYES_00,RP_MATCHES_RCVD autolearn=disabled version=3.3.2 Received: from fencepost.gnu.org ([2001:4830:134:3::e]:56484) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1cEivf-0004IB-4h for control@debbugs.gnu.org; Wed, 07 Dec 2016 15:35:03 -0500 Received: from rgm by fencepost.gnu.org with local (Exim 4.82) (envelope-from ) id 1cEive-0004Hx-RW for control@debbugs.gnu.org; Wed, 07 Dec 2016 15:35:02 -0500 Subject: control message for bug 24284 To: X-Mailer: mail (GNU Mailutils 2.99.98) Message-Id: From: Glenn Morris Date: Wed, 07 Dec 2016 15:35:02 -0500 X-detected-operating-system: by eggs.gnu.org: GNU/Linux 2.2.x-3.x [generic] X-Received-From: 2001:4830:134:3::e X-Spam-Score: -8.0 (--------) X-Debbugs-Envelope-To: control X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18 Precedence: list List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Sender: "Debbugs-submit" X-Spam-Score: -8.0 (--------) tag 24284 + wontfix From debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Wed Dec 07 15:35:05 2016 Received: (at 24284-done) by debbugs.gnu.org; 7 Dec 2016 20:35:05 +0000 Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:60250 helo=debbugs.gnu.org) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1cEivh-0003tH-0p for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Wed, 07 Dec 2016 15:35:05 -0500 Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([208.118.235.92]:46630) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1cEivf-0003s9-D3 for 24284-done@debbugs.gnu.org; Wed, 07 Dec 2016 15:35:03 -0500 Received: from Debian-exim by eggs.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1cEivZ-0004F6-PM for 24284-done@debbugs.gnu.org; Wed, 07 Dec 2016 15:34:58 -0500 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.3.2 (2011-06-06) on eggs.gnu.org X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-4.9 required=5.0 tests=BAYES_00,RP_MATCHES_RCVD autolearn=disabled version=3.3.2 Received: from fencepost.gnu.org ([2001:4830:134:3::e]:56483) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1cEivZ-0004Ew-Lm for 24284-done@debbugs.gnu.org; Wed, 07 Dec 2016 15:34:57 -0500 Received: from rgm by fencepost.gnu.org with local (Exim 4.82) (envelope-from ) id 1cEivZ-0004Gy-9p; Wed, 07 Dec 2016 15:34:57 -0500 From: Glenn Morris To: 24284-done@debbugs.gnu.org Subject: Re: bug#24284: Few seconds hang on startup, even with emacs -Q References: <87fupjow2g.fsf@users.sourceforge.net> <87sht0zpej.fsf@users.sourceforge.net> X-Spook: EuroFed White Powder North Korea Response JFK Human to X-Ran: L3Cd*`j8:\bc,6PP)itZNBjfR8rxUjtL$OZqk[/g_Tks*)82.m3("o{wlo{@hn$[I{!a/3 X-Hue: red X-Attribution: GM Date: Wed, 07 Dec 2016 15:34:57 -0500 In-Reply-To: <87sht0zpej.fsf@users.sourceforge.net> (npostavs@users.sourceforge.net's message of "Thu, 15 Sep 2016 19:58:28 -0400") Message-ID: User-Agent: Gnus (www.gnus.org), GNU Emacs (www.gnu.org/software/emacs/) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain X-detected-operating-system: by eggs.gnu.org: GNU/Linux 2.2.x-3.x [generic] X-Received-From: 2001:4830:134:3::e X-Spam-Score: -8.0 (--------) X-Debbugs-Envelope-To: 24284-done X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18 Precedence: list List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Sender: "Debbugs-submit" X-Spam-Score: -8.0 (--------) No response in months, closing. 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