From unknown Mon Jun 23 06:03:36 2025 X-Loop: owner@emacsbugs.donarmstrong.com Subject: bug#2420: 23.0.90; python-mode: Annoying skeletons Reply-To: Milan Zamazal , 2420@debbugs.gnu.org Resent-From: Milan Zamazal Resent-To: bug-submit-list@lists.donarmstrong.com Resent-CC: Emacs Bugs Resent-Date: Sat, 21 Feb 2009 10:30:04 +0000 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-Sender: help-debbugs@gnu.org X-Emacs-PR-Message: report 2420 X-Emacs-PR-Package: emacs X-Emacs-PR-Keywords: Received: via spool by submit@emacsbugs.donarmstrong.com id=B.123521189822618 (code B ref -1); Sat, 21 Feb 2009 10:30:04 +0000 Received: (at submit) by emacsbugs.donarmstrong.com; 21 Feb 2009 10:24:58 +0000 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.2.5-bugs.debian.org_2005_01_02 (2008-06-10) on rzlab.ucr.edu X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Bayes: score:0.5 Bayes not run. spammytokens:Tokens not available. hammytokens:Tokens not available. X-Spam-Status: No, score=0.0 required=4.0 tests=none autolearn=ham version=3.2.5-bugs.debian.org_2005_01_02 Received: from fencepost.gnu.org (fencepost.gnu.org [140.186.70.10]) by rzlab.ucr.edu (8.13.8/8.13.8/Debian-3) with ESMTP id n1LAOtCr022611 for ; Sat, 21 Feb 2009 02:24:56 -0800 Received: from mx10.gnu.org ([199.232.76.166]:32996) by fencepost.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.67) (envelope-from ) id 1Lap0O-0002M4-VH for emacs-pretest-bug@gnu.org; Sat, 21 Feb 2009 05:22:45 -0500 Received: from Debian-exim by monty-python.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.60) (envelope-from ) id 1Lap2U-0001Op-0V for emacs-pretest-bug@gnu.org; Sat, 21 Feb 2009 05:24:55 -0500 Received: from ip51.strelice.net ([217.66.176.51]:24474 helo=zamazal.org) by monty-python.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS-1.0:RSA_AES_256_CBC_SHA1:32) (Exim 4.60) (envelope-from ) id 1Lap2T-0001OT-Nl for emacs-pretest-bug@gnu.org; Sat, 21 Feb 2009 05:24:53 -0500 Received: from blackbird.nest.zamazal.org ([192.168.129.12]) by zamazal.org with esmtp (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1Lap2R-0001eo-PY for emacs-pretest-bug@gnu.org; Sat, 21 Feb 2009 11:24:51 +0100 Received: from pdm by blackbird.nest.zamazal.org with local (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1Lap2R-0001el-8p for emacs-pretest-bug@gnu.org; Sat, 21 Feb 2009 11:24:51 +0100 From: Milan Zamazal To: emacs-pretest-bug@gnu.org X-Hashcash: 1:20:090221:emacs-pretest-bug@gnu.org::SBrkyhYnhmz6OEw4:0000000000000000000000000000000000001mWp Date: Sat, 21 Feb 2009 11:24:51 +0100 Message-ID: <87ljs09jf0.fsf@blackbird.nest.zamazal.org> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-detected-operating-system: by monty-python.gnu.org: GNU/Linux 2.6 (newer, 3) In GNU Emacs 23.0.90.1 (x86_64-pc-linux-gnu, GTK+ Version 2.12.11) of 2009-02-03 on blackbird, modified by Debian (emacs-snapshot package, version 1:20090202-1) python-mode defines skeletons for some commands. This is very annoying when one wants to use abbrev-mode in python-mode but doesn't want to use the skeletons. I'm not sure whether enabling skeletons by default conforms to common Emacs practices. But what is more important, there should be an easy way to disable them at least. As far as I can see it isn't which is a bug. Regards, Milan Zamazal From unknown Mon Jun 23 06:03:36 2025 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: MIME-tools 5.420 (Entity 5.420) X-Loop: owner@emacsbugs.donarmstrong.com From: help-debbugs@gnu.org (Emacs bug Tracking System) To: Milan Zamazal Subject: bug#2420 closed by Glenn Morris (Re: bug#2420: 23.0.90; python-mode: Annoying skeletons) Message-ID: References: <87ljs09jf0.fsf@blackbird.nest.zamazal.org> X-Emacs-PR-Message: they-closed 2420 X-Emacs-PR-Package: emacs Reply-To: 2420@debbugs.gnu.org Date: Sat, 21 Feb 2009 19:45:04 +0000 Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="----------=_1235245504-3120-1" This is a multi-part message in MIME format... ------------=_1235245504-3120-1 Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8" This is an automatic notification regarding your bug report which was filed against the emacs package: #2420: 23.0.90; python-mode: Annoying skeletons It has been closed by Glenn Morris . Their explanation is attached below along with your original report. If this explanation is unsatisfactory and you have not received a better one in a separate message then please contact Glenn Morris by replying to this email. --=20 2420: http://debbugs.gnu.org/cgi/bugreport.cgi?bug=3D2420 Emacs Bug Tracking System Contact help-debbugs@gnu.org with problems ------------=_1235245504-3120-1 Content-Type: message/rfc822 Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Received: (at 2420-done) by emacsbugs.donarmstrong.com; 21 Feb 2009 19:35:40 +0000 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.2.5-bugs.debian.org_2005_01_02 (2008-06-10) on rzlab.ucr.edu X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Bayes: score:0.5 Bayes not run. spammytokens:Tokens not available. hammytokens:Tokens not available. X-Spam-Status: No, score=-6.0 required=4.0 tests=HAS_BUG_NUMBER, X_DEBBUGS_NO_ACK autolearn=ham version=3.2.5-bugs.debian.org_2005_01_02 Received: from fencepost.gnu.org (fencepost.gnu.org [140.186.70.10]) by rzlab.ucr.edu (8.13.8/8.13.8/Debian-3) with ESMTP id n1LJZbFf001704 for <2420-done@emacsbugs.donarmstrong.com>; Sat, 21 Feb 2009 11:35:39 -0800 Received: from rgm by fencepost.gnu.org with local (Exim 4.67) (envelope-from ) id 1LaxbJ-0005sg-9F; Sat, 21 Feb 2009 14:33:25 -0500 From: Glenn Morris To: 2420-done@debbugs.gnu.org Subject: Re: bug#2420: 23.0.90; python-mode: Annoying skeletons References: <87ljs09jf0.fsf@blackbird.nest.zamazal.org> X-Spook: Fortezza NATO AGT. AMME passwd IRA Bush Wired Lexis-Nexis X-Ran: qFkL9{s_Kh.V}bK>nVk'!ODh~uo1^V=& X-Hue: cyan X-Debbugs-No-Ack: yes X-Attribution: GM Date: Sat, 21 Feb 2009 14:33:25 -0500 In-Reply-To: <87ljs09jf0.fsf@blackbird.nest.zamazal.org> (Milan Zamazal's message of "Sat, 21 Feb 2009 11:24:51 +0100") Message-ID: User-Agent: Gnus (www.gnus.org), GNU Emacs (www.gnu.org/software/emacs/) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Milan Zamazal wrote: > python-mode defines skeletons for some commands. This is very annoying > when one wants to use abbrev-mode in python-mode but doesn't want to use > the skeletons. The current python.el has `python-use-skeletons', defaulting to nil. ------------=_1235245504-3120-1 Content-Type: message/rfc822 Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Received: (at submit) by emacsbugs.donarmstrong.com; 21 Feb 2009 10:24:58 +0000 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.2.5-bugs.debian.org_2005_01_02 (2008-06-10) on rzlab.ucr.edu X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Bayes: score:0.5 Bayes not run. spammytokens:Tokens not available. hammytokens:Tokens not available. X-Spam-Status: No, score=0.0 required=4.0 tests=none autolearn=ham version=3.2.5-bugs.debian.org_2005_01_02 Received: from fencepost.gnu.org (fencepost.gnu.org [140.186.70.10]) by rzlab.ucr.edu (8.13.8/8.13.8/Debian-3) with ESMTP id n1LAOtCr022611 for ; Sat, 21 Feb 2009 02:24:56 -0800 Received: from mx10.gnu.org ([199.232.76.166]:32996) by fencepost.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.67) (envelope-from ) id 1Lap0O-0002M4-VH for emacs-pretest-bug@gnu.org; Sat, 21 Feb 2009 05:22:45 -0500 Received: from Debian-exim by monty-python.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.60) (envelope-from ) id 1Lap2U-0001Op-0V for emacs-pretest-bug@gnu.org; Sat, 21 Feb 2009 05:24:55 -0500 Received: from ip51.strelice.net ([217.66.176.51]:24474 helo=zamazal.org) by monty-python.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS-1.0:RSA_AES_256_CBC_SHA1:32) (Exim 4.60) (envelope-from ) id 1Lap2T-0001OT-Nl for emacs-pretest-bug@gnu.org; Sat, 21 Feb 2009 05:24:53 -0500 Received: from blackbird.nest.zamazal.org ([192.168.129.12]) by zamazal.org with esmtp (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1Lap2R-0001eo-PY for emacs-pretest-bug@gnu.org; Sat, 21 Feb 2009 11:24:51 +0100 Received: from pdm by blackbird.nest.zamazal.org with local (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1Lap2R-0001el-8p for emacs-pretest-bug@gnu.org; Sat, 21 Feb 2009 11:24:51 +0100 From: Milan Zamazal To: emacs-pretest-bug@gnu.org Subject: 23.0.90; python-mode: Annoying skeletons X-Hashcash: 1:20:090221:emacs-pretest-bug@gnu.org::SBrkyhYnhmz6OEw4:0000000000000000000000000000000000001mWp Date: Sat, 21 Feb 2009 11:24:51 +0100 Message-ID: <87ljs09jf0.fsf@blackbird.nest.zamazal.org> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-detected-operating-system: by monty-python.gnu.org: GNU/Linux 2.6 (newer, 3) In GNU Emacs 23.0.90.1 (x86_64-pc-linux-gnu, GTK+ Version 2.12.11) of 2009-02-03 on blackbird, modified by Debian (emacs-snapshot package, version 1:20090202-1) python-mode defines skeletons for some commands. This is very annoying when one wants to use abbrev-mode in python-mode but doesn't want to use the skeletons. I'm not sure whether enabling skeletons by default conforms to common Emacs practices. But what is more important, there should be an easy way to disable them at least. As far as I can see it isn't which is a bug. Regards, Milan Zamazal ------------=_1235245504-3120-1--