From debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Fri Aug 05 01:29:41 2016 Received: (at submit) by debbugs.gnu.org; 5 Aug 2016 05:29:41 +0000 Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:56044 helo=debbugs.gnu.org) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1bVXhV-0003Vm-6C for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Fri, 05 Aug 2016 01:29:41 -0400 Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([208.118.235.92]:40920) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1bVXhT-0003Va-Ed for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Fri, 05 Aug 2016 01:29:40 -0400 Received: from Debian-exim by eggs.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1bVXhN-0001gl-82 for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Fri, 05 Aug 2016 01:29:34 -0400 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.3.2 (2011-06-06) on eggs.gnu.org X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=0.8 required=5.0 tests=BAYES_50,FREEMAIL_FROM autolearn=disabled version=3.3.2 Received: from lists.gnu.org ([2001:4830:134:3::11]:56671) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1bVXhN-0001ge-5A for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Fri, 05 Aug 2016 01:29:33 -0400 Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([2001:4830:134:3::10]:60123) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1bVXhK-0000AT-UM for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Fri, 05 Aug 2016 01:29:31 -0400 Received: from Debian-exim by eggs.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1bVXhE-0001ch-U6 for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Fri, 05 Aug 2016 01:29:29 -0400 Received: from mout.kundenserver.de ([212.227.126.134]:63186) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1bVXhE-0001ca-Jw for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Fri, 05 Aug 2016 01:29:24 -0400 Received: from [18.189.62.146] ([18.189.62.146]) by mrelayeu.kundenserver.de (mreue005) with ESMTPSA (Nemesis) id 0LtjF3-1b4ULv3c5l-0116tj for ; Fri, 05 Aug 2016 07:29:23 +0200 To: bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org Subject: 25.1.50; (princ "..." t) does not go to stderr in batch mode From: =?UTF-8?Q?Cl=c3=a9ment_Pit--Claudel?= Message-ID: <304c8bc0-19f8-c69b-9617-f8ceb9c12d0c@live.com> Date: Fri, 5 Aug 2016 01:29:15 -0400 User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; Linux x86_64; rv:45.0) Gecko/20100101 Thunderbird/45.2.0 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/signed; micalg=pgp-sha256; protocol="application/pgp-signature"; boundary="7fLNLWvhhopfrxJCikeeqA3gHDKXBnHrr" X-Provags-ID: V03:K0:whktxQu1NhZcObkIa9gKhrBb5Vt/o9JZpCIcF7if2+6iEPPaFjK pGEBkK0vG3WNfg/QV4bLEQ2MFtJTtn2lx7pOT8XGNRUHq4gskN7kSuODiY4RpgBnSK2ARWf xQWf6nbRJ4VgOAbyBuhuIgNQIZuH+QtuWYDoOwBoK693/HWHqBZ3rqN7yJbAzB8eZSPl2GR P2RFbNC0zjypCdRjY1hTg== X-UI-Out-Filterresults: notjunk:1;V01:K0:3/bRC/wzPt0=:/kqXNOP9Q0q7tyJEaVYqVP w6R4iBlPE6f+YFxDFKdtdhVXKiB2lz01MnggkY/HcBEagrxnGnionCeX9wbrgTuOZ6soCA1x2 04qeNCaNH48+k5Xw1hrPjB3eq6WV/eBVnR4iyHe2l7FTgKvtsnjwbVscD4VJyE7azdYiWSwZ8 CN38ZAw1r+KTiWmPfYSRxXz2zSjeV+bWsbeOBBSecuwngK9DgsoMXCsWURT6HCBlMhAvyUp2t /qO3T3w4L8d8CuVzN1A8B14HHFWsTPXKZgNSZ3PyOkcRVzxoO4xAWGhaQTG7ReBSKMdvDETxI gAzOYZRGmq5+xWhn39kHWkNSfIjPRijuXR3TONyrHuQtqDLzeVrPdX3uoY6+fOKvwBzNMtm/K pYoYW+ReHuF6VgnGgJc4skxwozfoNUFWLSi00vlMuaSmeHvruEqsU/4DG1CgsjoDOUE2mi+DZ bdIom3MQeFxg7jWEsQHXcxgmuTK0Tknw1oaSf2JN0zVdVRlhoZlg1mmfs+WOuGB9zmZb2Qv03 wCOf1kfCL+bDQZjhNPoMzCpmHJW8zH0lNMqU8X5T9QlRw+MXteauuF0Mzj1VKkbXVfRJs4IL+ M60dkTb6PkjGQiYh+eEcOr+dqaASAc4YZiAoaMgpPb+B8R3jMKEhHsA8HGWxZpHGj/8dwYVbh l6E29ZuQKSDJQiiGAP09lOTD0Ko26RgW1CpJiDmkTQuKjDF4UGEAxbccxobONBWuE0uQ= X-detected-operating-system: by eggs.gnu.org: GNU/Linux 2.2.x-3.x [generic] X-detected-operating-system: by eggs.gnu.org: GNU/Linux 2.6.x X-Received-From: 2001:4830:134:3::11 X-Spam-Score: -4.0 (----) X-Debbugs-Envelope-To: submit X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18 Precedence: list List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Sender: "Debbugs-submit" X-Spam-Score: -4.0 (----) This is an OpenPGP/MIME signed message (RFC 4880 and 3156) --7fLNLWvhhopfrxJCikeeqA3gHDKXBnHrr Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="7qQfpxuxk9OK4TJ69d1lGoDP3hsAE1NOL" From: =?UTF-8?Q?Cl=c3=a9ment_Pit--Claudel?= To: bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org Message-ID: <304c8bc0-19f8-c69b-9617-f8ceb9c12d0c@live.com> Subject: 25.1.50; (princ "..." t) does not go to stderr in batch mode --7qQfpxuxk9OK4TJ69d1lGoDP3hsAE1NOL Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Contrast this: $ emacs --batch --eval '(message "to stderr.")' > /dev/null to stderr. With that (it produces no output): $ emacs --batch --eval '(princ "to stderr?" t)' > /dev/null And yet according to the docs: Any Lisp program output that would normally go to the echo area, either using message, or using prin1, etc., with t as the stream, goes instead to Emacs=E2=80=99s standard error descriptor when in batch mode= =2E -- https://www.gnu.org/software/emacs/manual/html_node/elisp/Batch-Mode= =2Ehtml What am I doing wrong? Cl=C3=A9ment. In GNU Emacs 25.1.50.7 (x86_64-pc-linux-gnu, GTK+ Version 3.18.9) of 2016-07-20 built on clem-w50-mint Repository revision: a1a0c208e3e895a6ea0942e8e5c4077faf12c7ad Windowing system distributor 'The X.Org Foundation', version 11.0.1180300= 0 System Description: Linux Mint 18 Sarah --7qQfpxuxk9OK4TJ69d1lGoDP3hsAE1NOL-- --7fLNLWvhhopfrxJCikeeqA3gHDKXBnHrr Content-Type: application/pgp-signature; name="signature.asc" Content-Description: OpenPGP digital signature Content-Disposition: attachment; filename="signature.asc" -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v2 iQIcBAEBCAAGBQJXpCQxAAoJEPqg+cTm90wjU10P/2uSa8ljCzngz30Nqd6EIUC+ CctoyDYXoizNQdOoZ1eZiab20CAEHpinFo5fBWjrJ0ADdjTAoGV+v4B4hUSbpnrQ Y9jnrdC2LIOmHqLqMS/3f97QOBCSA+L2eRX8/jD0cz2TOh9QXMruCcBQAfhjr+Qp ifIgeqdO/lGR+ei2SsNpPsxydwsWZe2DgqDugqkU3E2WP+/0L9JoFjscAY1IX9aG TUP9yEizBO7fpzZGuONvkJU5XzUjB+95fEp4NMps1RufTGqAdcKIoPKAyO7bI6SQ 5MC0t3jwr3pSAQg3AtkKbTzEztBk8kFU/1a2bJ6VhMih55IHukour9BDjricDEF0 Hu3ahIXn9TniclFjMp3wTqre3co8hke6sy7Wl7UipJW3gnzSpAo1cUArGiuTnkyf fKV56qcctiVErMUEmyfr4yK3oMxvqVj4/jPhoeqnrMqCqRH8zj0hl79nDxfbmcv4 CmKwkXLVLCkvZdaANPSjwtor6he9PQgfT8gR7cnQdW4Yfn3RJn5/MIPaY6Q68jZ6 n8FIu+mnysfLfpUyr5BL6tMmAiT6LWUjugeJ4qitc2lFvcz/jx+IhRinMBX9+mJi 09W57p10/93zeknRmQxNpGPsZzR9awQqebK5dCK+Cn0okQ3+nZ6IJlWM33Adyp07 Zhs0Z2z/qDa8aka0QM6q =GeEo -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --7fLNLWvhhopfrxJCikeeqA3gHDKXBnHrr-- From debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Fri Aug 05 01:37:46 2016 Received: (at 24157) by debbugs.gnu.org; 5 Aug 2016 05:37:46 +0000 Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:56050 helo=debbugs.gnu.org) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1bVXpK-0003m9-32 for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Fri, 05 Aug 2016 01:37:46 -0400 Received: from mout.kundenserver.de ([212.227.126.130]:55686) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1bVXpI-0003lw-Kb for 24157@debbugs.gnu.org; Fri, 05 Aug 2016 01:37:45 -0400 Received: from [18.189.62.146] ([18.189.62.146]) by mrelayeu.kundenserver.de (mreue002) with ESMTPSA (Nemesis) id 0Lj9fL-1ayPfR0Q4l-00dTM4 for <24157@debbugs.gnu.org>; Fri, 05 Aug 2016 07:37:38 +0200 Subject: Re: bug#24157: Acknowledgement (25.1.50; (princ "..." t) does not go to stderr in batch mode) To: 24157@debbugs.gnu.org References: <304c8bc0-19f8-c69b-9617-f8ceb9c12d0c@live.com> From: =?UTF-8?Q?Cl=c3=a9ment_Pit--Claudel?= Message-ID: Date: Fri, 5 Aug 2016 01:37:31 -0400 User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; Linux x86_64; rv:45.0) Gecko/20100101 Thunderbird/45.2.0 MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: Content-Type: multipart/signed; micalg=pgp-sha256; protocol="application/pgp-signature"; boundary="2LfEDr4JFu7Tr6sL5hqSThkIoF7s3MVR7" X-Provags-ID: V03:K0:PwJjXZQMxiP6TzQ8yFp11krXNlRXcriX0Xpp9GK54acdSnWZfMT 6CCL/+X1gBoVyOjAeo2A1JN5+VQlGF+Nn7u9xocijzlhcdHrovbHempvX2f4mAMDiGaVVFf F/G93qwkBYCXC3IvbyodeBqpX8KQvrho17wK9ohp7pFlWCGXBq6QGSkms6yfoY/f4MmAlrw hasp58fW/9f87qOozVjlA== X-UI-Out-Filterresults: notjunk:1;V01:K0:ADmiQXxBXnw=:MRMxllkW86QibALzYDQgZR pW295hRIjfTFuRPtOv906Th5G+7/ytc/265/1h/3Q797nHh1CquO4vmSFYIBz+kllKfEc8vQe aEUD6qtuOP4BYZLP3UyoTO+/vp+P8VQBdDBG7scYrLTr1pi4ZfN/kDYZ5LbfZN3JVKJkPs9nn vtgWOIOrfpaPFVwHpuPkEKT/8H6cE8xCXyrUfdZRSM+iEPv0efqmWeUarg82Ezio/GhPN78Yc U73WHSUrHxw/pR9coEwuw0zgLgEO8IVLxMRHLWbgxGSNmHzjmHeiDyh2/Z+R8BunGfKrySXUH TVtjFZQ2XUZeddy/GWc8f+qdChpPXbjTmILQcUfHlMoBVNPn4mc+ZOoe6VDnlhKwHopbofrSL BH8mzA7YqHacHH9yI94mo3K0uDz3Zv6SvzTaN8C3FeN80jny9ZmaODDtC4lzcSpgU9wrnYJJi 9Tg/jwdMLKHGVplZpZIUV9sx1gOS2skJnXJ2xD4Lt+luZ9ozlOB36IRsm0YwbbV15kWUUhWQ/ 9pTEfbooT0uR+dXSAy1DF5C/jB/6qXekA6FMJL0RXN4EfP/3AJ3Q4hHM0x2hMR5EmKvHVzjjV InKW7RER/IJIzSWt5jokpi0SftVEHi4CKkJ/UBziYfBURQkipdOlbByvxXNYDlIGLH2vg6aW+ kf1XUy9WDDXK+2QAIwTEtkASZJU7rJkrFc/uMgbCKXFSJ0flfESjZleN6uwVCGnSwtK4= X-Spam-Score: 1.0 (+) X-Debbugs-Envelope-To: 24157 X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18 Precedence: list List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Sender: "Debbugs-submit" X-Spam-Score: 1.0 (+) This is an OpenPGP/MIME signed message (RFC 4880 and 3156) --2LfEDr4JFu7Tr6sL5hqSThkIoF7s3MVR7 Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="fcKAOXJnKgm2G5n0hkIJIXQRGXwAMaQiQ" From: =?UTF-8?Q?Cl=c3=a9ment_Pit--Claudel?= To: 24157@debbugs.gnu.org Message-ID: Subject: Re: bug#24157: Acknowledgement (25.1.50; (princ "..." t) does not go to stderr in batch mode) References: <304c8bc0-19f8-c69b-9617-f8ceb9c12d0c@live.com> In-Reply-To: --fcKAOXJnKgm2G5n0hkIJIXQRGXwAMaQiQ Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Also: $ emacs --batch --eval '(progn (message "to stderr.") (princ "to stderr= ?" t))' > /dev/null to stderr. $ emacs --batch --eval '(progn (princ "to stderr?" t) (message "to stde= rr."))' > /dev/null to stderr. And worse: $ emacs --batch --eval '(progn (princ "to stdout!") (message "to stderr= =2E"))' > /dev/null to stderr. $ emacs --batch --eval '(progn (princ "to stdout!") (message "to stderr= =2E"))' 2> /dev/null to stdout! (which I guess suggests that 'message' is the one adding the newline, not= princ) Cl=C3=A9ment. 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You are reading stale documentation. The current (25.1RC1) manual says this instead: Any Lisp program output that would normally go to the echo area, either using ‘message’, or using ‘prin1’, etc., with ‘t’ as the stream, goes instead to Emacs’s standard descriptors when in batch mode: ‘message’ writes to the standard error descriptor, while ‘prin1’ and other print functions write to the standard output. OK to close this bug? From debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Fri Aug 05 03:12:24 2016 Received: (at submit) by debbugs.gnu.org; 5 Aug 2016 07:12:24 +0000 Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:56084 helo=debbugs.gnu.org) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1bVZIu-0005sG-5o for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Fri, 05 Aug 2016 03:12:24 -0400 Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([208.118.235.92]:54610) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1bVZIs-0005s3-Dd for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Fri, 05 Aug 2016 03:12:22 -0400 Received: from Debian-exim by eggs.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1bVZIm-00084P-6D for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Fri, 05 Aug 2016 03:12:17 -0400 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.3.2 (2011-06-06) on eggs.gnu.org X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=0.8 required=5.0 tests=BAYES_50,FREEMAIL_FROM autolearn=disabled version=3.3.2 Received: from lists.gnu.org ([2001:4830:134:3::11]:36674) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1bVZIm-000846-2h for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Fri, 05 Aug 2016 03:12:16 -0400 Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([2001:4830:134:3::10]:45560) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1bVZIj-0004M5-T2 for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Fri, 05 Aug 2016 03:12:14 -0400 Received: from Debian-exim by eggs.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1bVZId-00082x-TR for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Fri, 05 Aug 2016 03:12:12 -0400 Received: from mout.kundenserver.de ([212.227.126.134]:57224) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1bVZId-00082p-Iz for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Fri, 05 Aug 2016 03:12:07 -0400 Received: from [18.189.62.146] ([18.189.62.146]) by mrelayeu.kundenserver.de (mreue004) with ESMTPSA (Nemesis) id 0MIjAi-1bXl9y01X6-002J2e for ; Fri, 05 Aug 2016 09:12:06 +0200 Subject: Re: bug#24157: 25.1.50; (princ "..." t) does not go to stderr in batch mode To: bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org References: <304c8bc0-19f8-c69b-9617-f8ceb9c12d0c@live.com> <83popnlplu.fsf@gnu.org> From: =?UTF-8?Q?Cl=c3=a9ment_Pit--Claudel?= Message-ID: Date: Fri, 5 Aug 2016 03:11:59 -0400 User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; Linux x86_64; rv:45.0) Gecko/20100101 Thunderbird/45.2.0 MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: <83popnlplu.fsf@gnu.org> Content-Type: multipart/signed; micalg=pgp-sha256; protocol="application/pgp-signature"; boundary="p5jc7QKn5SiqSlWoNfqCpuAnxI9WNhE3H" X-Provags-ID: V03:K0:SsbFPYUj6Vpn+aJDW3LuFeDAsZ8azLzACcbyGjunh4r+3kqaNIZ eDUmDIEBZ1JMWP1S/Ww+m72wsOmOFK61/gMdlHPEJ7Ob8M0/86Bx0O3Z3XqKz2+74oibijy +66eln/oZYa+jZMeEprplucf9bqniKKBNmiuGlZkB1cSPd0HCe4cOaxLLWsImRDcdZPzWyr b5oeyD+IYEn3sbRmS0vUg== X-UI-Out-Filterresults: notjunk:1;V01:K0:zeYJBYe2bV8=:DMV/BraS5oFf1PzLBek/zI XPXCNa3LGV/gN1myucg3pBCDhPAmQqHL3Sw+io3xYfba+4yETHwFH6yKYQEHxs3znSW9dEpTY K/0lrC8p9rxqoloctndqI2vAqSMNRF/J0NLbEOl9+ak02t+W4C7lmBBsKXi36/fvH/sbjT4E+ 5ltEH6qevoFqHBLlDtInkEoyyyv4lGusybr/suOnjExuD1h2xmz4dTf5btOu/7iCGz5PHYKTD vmI6VqEeM/JYumS4JM++OHWBsJntdXKmb/0R3vbUr32zbpEWqkQnIZWzI3MUbVxV6TB/Pe/wN PUWD5ScJ7qRVEnTInYeSO2mZ8I4OwN7GrWhpCP8sgU4uRR1Z8gw95KWuD/jCAMCwwkCSF5W6/ Q7Eg9nR7W5KgYGNOIhlebuD+eQVWExsGj7Z1z0bv7OowDur/iOo0VBr0deekL5HRlXJ7CgEJn y+LreMkxDwShvgDM8+WJw8uMYH5dRElgN3x0RBNDx9bsW+mt8e5o0mjwONx+kjOhccRSmOuMc V0IYhrk1IhwP5SkW7NeX0UL87TktiUtDfWtDzMOgP0LEG/kqsdAXgkzsM3AcWAYzCUSF3Vq2B dG+1afKRw6CPatguSZkDUmZClHFc5IcdYwociZBORymzKw85yp30iQS5aIgseeq++S1ruGXBE 4OEs4ZHmy+BbT6cjdg0dKjCCiP48r36y4227yYODGrOq2gmvCQe6U/TY+PBaOWgn1G50= X-detected-operating-system: by eggs.gnu.org: GNU/Linux 2.2.x-3.x [generic] X-detected-operating-system: by eggs.gnu.org: GNU/Linux 2.6.x X-Received-From: 2001:4830:134:3::11 X-Spam-Score: -4.0 (----) X-Debbugs-Envelope-To: submit X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18 Precedence: list List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Sender: "Debbugs-submit" X-Spam-Score: -4.0 (----) This is an OpenPGP/MIME signed message (RFC 4880 and 3156) --p5jc7QKn5SiqSlWoNfqCpuAnxI9WNhE3H Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="MJpNPL5lN4s84vMb2mt2Bf4G6X0WcdkEk" From: =?UTF-8?Q?Cl=c3=a9ment_Pit--Claudel?= To: bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org Message-ID: Subject: Re: bug#24157: 25.1.50; (princ "..." t) does not go to stderr in batch mode References: <304c8bc0-19f8-c69b-9617-f8ceb9c12d0c@live.com> <83popnlplu.fsf@gnu.org> In-Reply-To: <83popnlplu.fsf@gnu.org> --MJpNPL5lN4s84vMb2mt2Bf4G6X0WcdkEk Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable On 2016-08-05 02:03, Eli Zaretskii wrote: > OK to close this bug? Thanks Eli. Sorry for the false alarm. This means that the only way to write to stderr without a newline is (let= ((cursor-in-echo-area t)) (message ...)), right? This is not ideal. Also, I still think that this is an issue: $ emacs --batch --eval '(progn (princ "to stdout!") (message "to stderr= =2E"))' > /dev/null to stderr. $ emacs --batch --eval '(progn (message "to stderr.") (princ "to stdout= !"))' > /dev/null to stderr. $ emacs --batch --eval '(progn (princ "to stdout!") (message "to stderr= =2E"))' 2> /dev/null to stdout! If I read what you sent correctly, the first two rpograms should produce = the same output, and the call to princ shouldn't cause 'message' to inser= t a newline before "to stderr.", right? 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Date: Fri, 05 Aug 2016 10:20:24 +0200 In-Reply-To: (=?utf-8?Q?=22Cl=C3=A9ment?= Pit--Claudel"'s message of "Fri, 5 Aug 2016 03:11:59 -0400") Message-ID: <87a8grlj93.fsf@linux-m68k.org> User-Agent: Gnus/5.13 (Gnus v5.13) Emacs/25.1 (gnu/linux) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-Spam-Score: -0.7 (/) X-Debbugs-Envelope-To: 24157 Cc: 24157@debbugs.gnu.org X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18 Precedence: list List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Sender: "Debbugs-submit" X-Spam-Score: -0.7 (/) On Fr, Aug 05 2016, Clément Pit--Claudel wrote: > This means that the only way to write to stderr without a newline is (let ((cursor-in-echo-area t)) (message ...)), right? This is not ideal. Use external-debugging-output. Andreas. -- Andreas Schwab, schwab@linux-m68k.org GPG Key fingerprint = 58CA 54C7 6D53 942B 1756 01D3 44D5 214B 8276 4ED5 "And now for something completely different." From debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Fri Aug 05 09:53:02 2016 Received: (at 24157) by debbugs.gnu.org; 5 Aug 2016 13:53:02 +0000 Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:56248 helo=debbugs.gnu.org) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1bVfYb-0001mm-TV for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Fri, 05 Aug 2016 09:53:02 -0400 Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([208.118.235.92]:56183) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1bVfYa-0001mW-CV for 24157@debbugs.gnu.org; Fri, 05 Aug 2016 09:53:00 -0400 Received: from Debian-exim by eggs.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1bVfYS-0005sv-7p for 24157@debbugs.gnu.org; Fri, 05 Aug 2016 09:52:55 -0400 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.3.2 (2011-06-06) on eggs.gnu.org X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-1.2 required=5.0 tests=BAYES_40,RP_MATCHES_RCVD autolearn=disabled version=3.3.2 Received: from fencepost.gnu.org ([2001:4830:134:3::e]:50487) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1bVfYS-0005so-4E; Fri, 05 Aug 2016 09:52:52 -0400 Received: from 84.94.185.246.cable.012.net.il ([84.94.185.246]:1110 helo=home-c4e4a596f7) by fencepost.gnu.org with esmtpsa (TLS1.2:RSA_AES_128_CBC_SHA1:128) (Exim 4.82) (envelope-from ) id 1bVfYO-0004Hv-9x; Fri, 05 Aug 2016 09:52:50 -0400 Date: Fri, 05 Aug 2016 16:52:20 +0300 Message-Id: <83eg63l3vv.fsf@gnu.org> From: Eli Zaretskii To: =?utf-8?Q?Cl=C3=A9ment?= Pit--Claudel In-reply-to: (message from =?utf-8?Q?Cl=C3=A9ment?= Pit--Claudel on Fri, 5 Aug 2016 03:11:59 -0400) Subject: Re: bug#24157: 25.1.50; (princ "..." t) does not go to stderr in batch mode References: <304c8bc0-19f8-c69b-9617-f8ceb9c12d0c@live.com> <83popnlplu.fsf@gnu.org> MIME-version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-detected-operating-system: by eggs.gnu.org: GNU/Linux 2.2.x-3.x [generic] X-Received-From: 2001:4830:134:3::e X-Spam-Score: -6.3 (------) X-Debbugs-Envelope-To: 24157 Cc: 24157@debbugs.gnu.org X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18 Precedence: list List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Reply-To: Eli Zaretskii Errors-To: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Sender: "Debbugs-submit" X-Spam-Score: -6.3 (------) > From: Clément Pit--Claudel > Date: Fri, 5 Aug 2016 03:11:59 -0400 > > This means that the only way to write to stderr without a newline is (let ((cursor-in-echo-area t)) (message ...)), right? This is not ideal. No, you also have external-debugging-output (as pointed out by Andreas) and append-to-file. > Also, I still think that this is an issue: > > $ emacs --batch --eval '(progn (princ "to stdout!") (message "to stderr."))' > /dev/null > > to stderr. > $ emacs --batch --eval '(progn (message "to stderr.") (princ "to stdout!"))' > /dev/null > to stderr. > $ emacs --batch --eval '(progn (princ "to stdout!") (message "to stderr."))' 2> /dev/null > to stdout! > > If I read what you sent correctly, the first two rpograms should produce the same output, and the call to princ shouldn't cause 'message' to insert a newline before "to stderr.", right? No, what you see is deliberate behavior, intended to avoid mixing output to stdout and stderr, when they are connected to the same device. You have redirected stdout, so the result looks surprising, but that behavior is explicitly coded in Emacs (grep the C sources for noninteractive_need_newline). 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