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boundary="----------=_1469603282-27654-1" This is a multi-part message in MIME format... ------------=_1469603282-27654-1 Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8" Your bug report #24077: VS: bug in MAN page for data command which was filed against the coreutils package, has been closed. The explanation is attached below, along with your original report. If you require more details, please reply to 24077@debbugs.gnu.org. --=20 24077: http://debbugs.gnu.org/cgi/bugreport.cgi?bug=3D24077 GNU Bug Tracking System Contact help-debbugs@gnu.org with problems ------------=_1469603282-27654-1 Content-Type: message/rfc822 Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Received: (at 24077-done) by debbugs.gnu.org; 27 Jul 2016 07:07:28 +0000 Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:38621 helo=debbugs.gnu.org) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1bSIwC-0007BJ-7T for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Wed, 27 Jul 2016 03:07:28 -0400 Received: from zimbra.cs.ucla.edu ([131.179.128.68]:35061) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1bSIwA-0007B4-8F for 24077-done@debbugs.gnu.org; Wed, 27 Jul 2016 03:07:26 -0400 Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by zimbra.cs.ucla.edu (Postfix) with ESMTP id 44F86160095; Wed, 27 Jul 2016 00:07:20 -0700 (PDT) Received: from zimbra.cs.ucla.edu ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (zimbra.cs.ucla.edu [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10032) with ESMTP id MMlrEB-KL4aS; Wed, 27 Jul 2016 00:07:19 -0700 (PDT) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by zimbra.cs.ucla.edu (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9A408161123; Wed, 27 Jul 2016 00:07:19 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at zimbra.cs.ucla.edu Received: from zimbra.cs.ucla.edu ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (zimbra.cs.ucla.edu [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10026) with ESMTP id bQn8f_De3kF1; Wed, 27 Jul 2016 00:07:19 -0700 (PDT) Received: from [10.105.133.74] (unknown [88.128.80.140]) by zimbra.cs.ucla.edu (Postfix) with ESMTPSA id 9DB0D160095; Wed, 27 Jul 2016 00:07:18 -0700 (PDT) Subject: Re: bug#24077: VS: bug in MAN page for data command To: Lars Issing Sauer , 24077-done@debbugs.gnu.org References: From: Paul Eggert Message-ID: Date: Wed, 27 Jul 2016 09:07:07 +0200 User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; Linux i686; rv:45.0) Gecko/20100101 Thunderbird/45.2.0 MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Spam-Score: -1.3 (-) X-Debbugs-Envelope-To: 24077-done X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18 Precedence: list List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Sender: "Debbugs-submit" X-Spam-Score: -1.3 (-) On 07/26/2016 09:13 AM, Lars Issing Sauer wrote: > According to the description "%M" is minutes and "%m" is month... but > the command takes "%M" as month and "%m" as minutes ;) Sorry, I don't see any bug here. "date +%M" outputs the current number of minutes past the hour, and "date +%m" outputs the current month number, and that is what is documented. ------------=_1469603282-27654-1 Content-Type: message/rfc822 Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Received: (at submit) by debbugs.gnu.org; 26 Jul 2016 17:58:50 +0000 Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:38397 helo=debbugs.gnu.org) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1bS6cw-0003Om-HZ for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Tue, 26 Jul 2016 13:58:50 -0400 Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([208.118.235.92]:42093) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1bRwYj-000367-Ad for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Tue, 26 Jul 2016 03:13:45 -0400 Received: from Debian-exim by eggs.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1bRwYd-00087k-4u for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Tue, 26 Jul 2016 03:13:40 -0400 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.3.2 (2011-06-06) on eggs.gnu.org X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=0.8 required=5.0 tests=BAYES_50 autolearn=disabled version=3.3.2 Received: from lists.gnu.org ([2001:4830:134:3::11]:38030) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1bRwYd-00087d-1P for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; 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Wed, 27 Jul 2016 08:21:01 +0000 Received: (at 24077) by debbugs.gnu.org; 27 Jul 2016 08:20:35 +0000 Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:38664 helo=debbugs.gnu.org) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1bSK4x-0000XV-6L for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Wed, 27 Jul 2016 04:20:35 -0400 Received: from mout.kundenserver.de ([212.227.126.131]:59866) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1bSK4v-0000XF-8r for 24077@debbugs.gnu.org; Wed, 27 Jul 2016 04:20:33 -0400 Received: from [10.0.2.15] ([62.153.148.194]) by mrelayeu.kundenserver.de (mreue002) with ESMTPSA (Nemesis) id 0MJawd-1bQwE512Gh-0039BO; Wed, 27 Jul 2016 10:20:10 +0200 References: From: Bernhard Voelker Message-ID: <96f47187-f49a-e615-f1c8-6fef96b6fc4a@bernhard-voelker.de> Date: Wed, 27 Jul 2016 10:20:08 +0200 User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; Linux x86_64; rv:45.0) Gecko/20100101 Thunderbird/45.2 MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Provags-ID: V03:K0:4IY7OkUgtSeZB7tMU9aiLoBDs6L9NyIFgrwpmWYd/aEwQtjayyy 8aFF4GNhuYyE66gllkntQ4FCrNGAZHML8PUUSXqf27TEfMYpCO2pmmqR7TPy21xPeBjCcLP 46L4xxOHpSwTsl0nWPOtaZRwwdwWwXHF3w9mUh35yrcAC5+bcrPyPCskzoTWCEwIkMb/M7K Vr8z6Iw4uGNJiqK/qZWHQ== X-UI-Out-Filterresults: notjunk:1;V01:K0:+tRvWqn4Dxc=:VvcJnCUgQoezLiFODByCX+ rMovahlKOMyWgDDkD/m3fmsFmlEdl3ZbJ6qDovG1G0NAI9pO4RqmigsMQMPkdUYgi6BgMGHxe Lm7x993gAya1+/zxd/CDCnpf5L+CS1G7g76x92or9qABgU0b2xuipc9dV+FofGM/5dx4OM9En x82MdsQc7Fb9H0eVL//evHorctBBweU4tHl/kNK0XdN6zriO/EyM/l21XIcphdy+ZPcJmfz2o 7VvQOtk8CcAEaJlDuOeXeZatLiWFkGk/XOdPmefyzuiuyvrJiHevAaBX8KTY33u9Q3C1wWhLk dr2Qo6Z/ioMyQzgRN9TQQDfTNFXyBuoHWE0L3W5QswCrBU84IXKP6+dauU7BDE7LMja+fUpXX qzrLQO3EMZUgpfEDaq1DUlTkCWdvufEW53VCOqDk8C6Pkd+CvL1SeDBWpmxSk1EvUNLAvvpXY Jaefq+6aY4cLU+SwaS67ytUmJCkNlj2iP+e8u0eDuLsF+8Yzd0bMVi+E0T+Ob7SRS3bfQlo62 pIvR1hEYzxpYOPCrElVZz9T5qTgwyBE8n4mW8cKQ3p9JMHJYEXWhpQFgGCZbAJivx1NfW3NGA i964v+2VWVjj5ZC1MsxG2LBKJ6mcqUCPWTUNdfdV230q5TAaZT94E5WReKbJa6ig7fMYQJL7P IpGcgRpwKPCjhXA/ZMXiVKoE0s9T8GcrQCImAczcFsTg1dI2nKhlarFFuz8QCf4af94aeMWP9 LegnTP/hyuvi5ACO X-Spam-Score: -0.0 (/) X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18 Precedence: list List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Sender: "Debbugs-submit" X-Spam-Score: -0.0 (/) On 07/27/2016 09:07 AM, Paul Eggert wrote: > On 07/26/2016 09:13 AM, Lars Issing Sauer wrote: >> According to the description "%M" is minutes and "%m" is month... but >> the command takes "%M" as month and "%m" as minutes ;) > > Sorry, I don't see any bug here. "date +%M" outputs the current number of minutes > past the hour, and "date +%m" outputs the current month number, and that is what is documented. Hi Paul, I think it's regarding the MM vs. mm in the usage string: $ src/date --help | grep MM or: src/date [-u|--utc|--universal] [MMDDhhmm[[CC]YY][.ss]] __________________________________________^^____^^ $ src/date -u 072710132016 src/date: cannot set date: Operation not permitted Wed Jul 27 10:13:00 UTC 2016 The MM/mm here is inconsistent compared to the %M/%m modifiers. Usage | % mod | meaning ------+-------+-------- MM | %m | month mm | %M | minute Do you agree? Have a nice day, Berny From unknown Sat Jun 21 03:29:40 2025 X-Loop: help-debbugs@gnu.org Subject: bug#24077: VS: bug in MAN page for data command Resent-From: =?UTF-8?Q?P=C3=A1draig?= Brady Original-Sender: "Debbugs-submit" Resent-CC: bug-coreutils@gnu.org Resent-Date: Wed, 27 Jul 2016 09:14:02 +0000 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-Sender: help-debbugs@gnu.org X-GNU-PR-Message: followup 24077 X-GNU-PR-Package: coreutils X-GNU-PR-Keywords: To: Bernhard Voelker , 24077-done@debbugs.gnu.org, eggert@cs.ucla.edu, lsa@logos.dk Received: via spool by 24077-done@debbugs.gnu.org id=D24077.14696108277044 (code D ref 24077); Wed, 27 Jul 2016 09:14:02 +0000 Received: (at 24077-done) by debbugs.gnu.org; 27 Jul 2016 09:13:47 +0000 Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:38707 helo=debbugs.gnu.org) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1bSKuQ-0001pX-Qf for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Wed, 27 Jul 2016 05:13:47 -0400 Received: from mail.magicbluesmoke.com ([82.195.144.49]:53076) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1bSKuP-0001pO-2l for 24077-done@debbugs.gnu.org; Wed, 27 Jul 2016 05:13:45 -0400 Received: from [192.168.1.80] (unknown [109.76.143.177]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES128-GCM-SHA256 (128/128 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by mail.magicbluesmoke.com (Postfix) with ESMTPSA id 801CF949C; Wed, 27 Jul 2016 10:13:43 +0100 (IST) References: <96f47187-f49a-e615-f1c8-6fef96b6fc4a@bernhard-voelker.de> From: =?UTF-8?Q?P=C3=A1draig?= Brady Message-ID: <57987B46.20101@draigBrady.com> Date: Wed, 27 Jul 2016 10:13:42 +0100 User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; Linux x86_64; rv:38.0) Gecko/20100101 Thunderbird/38.3.0 MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: <96f47187-f49a-e615-f1c8-6fef96b6fc4a@bernhard-voelker.de> Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="------------040907000603060801070408" X-Spam-Score: 0.0 (/) X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18 Precedence: list List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Sender: "Debbugs-submit" X-Spam-Score: 0.0 (/) This is a multi-part message in MIME format. --------------040907000603060801070408 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit On 27/07/16 09:20, Bernhard Voelker wrote: > On 07/27/2016 09:07 AM, Paul Eggert wrote: >> On 07/26/2016 09:13 AM, Lars Issing Sauer wrote: >>> According to the description "%M" is minutes and "%m" is month... but >>> the command takes "%M" as month and "%m" as minutes ;) >> >> Sorry, I don't see any bug here. "date +%M" outputs the current number of minutes >> past the hour, and "date +%m" outputs the current month number, and that is what is documented. > > Hi Paul, > > I think it's regarding the MM vs. mm in the usage string: > > $ src/date --help | grep MM > or: src/date [-u|--utc|--universal] [MMDDhhmm[[CC]YY][.ss]] > __________________________________________^^____^^ > > $ src/date -u 072710132016 > src/date: cannot set date: Operation not permitted > Wed Jul 27 10:13:00 UTC 2016 > > The MM/mm here is inconsistent compared to the %M/%m modifiers. > > Usage | % mod | meaning > ------+-------+-------- > MM | %m | month > mm | %M | minute > > Do you agree? Yes it's more consistent to match this input representation with the output +FORMATs. I.E. use: [mmddHHMM[[CC]yy][.SS]] It's more natural to use uppercase for larger quantities, but being consistent with +FORMAT trumps that IMHO. Fixed in the attached. thanks Pádraig --------------040907000603060801070408 Content-Type: text/x-patch; name="date-synopsis.patch" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: attachment; filename="date-synopsis.patch" >From fcc32d0fc4450169f0654980e4c536ce47dd159e Mon Sep 17 00:00:00 2001 From: =?UTF-8?q?P=C3=A1draig=20Brady?= Date: Wed, 27 Jul 2016 10:05:20 +0100 Subject: [PATCH] doc: make date(1) synopsis consistent with output +FORMAT * src/date.c (usage): Make the characters used to summarize the input format, match the output +FORMAT characters. * doc/coreutils.texi (date invocation): Likewise. Fixes http://bugs.gnu.org/24077 --- doc/coreutils.texi | 2 +- src/date.c | 2 +- 2 files changed, 2 insertions(+), 2 deletions(-) diff --git a/doc/coreutils.texi b/doc/coreutils.texi index 914aec7..b85404b 100644 --- a/doc/coreutils.texi +++ b/doc/coreutils.texi @@ -15018,7 +15018,7 @@ Synopses: @example date [@var{option}]@dots{} [+@var{format}] date [-u|--utc|--universal] @c this avoids a newline in the output -[ MMDDhhmm[[CC]YY][.ss] ] +[ mmddHHMM[[CC]yy][.SS] ] @end example @vindex LC_TIME diff --git a/src/date.c b/src/date.c index e73196b..a9a580c 100644 --- a/src/date.c +++ b/src/date.c @@ -122,7 +122,7 @@ usage (int status) { printf (_("\ Usage: %s [OPTION]... [+FORMAT]\n\ - or: %s [-u|--utc|--universal] [MMDDhhmm[[CC]YY][.ss]]\n\ + or: %s [-u|--utc|--universal] [mmddHHMM[[CC]yy][.SS]]\n\ "), program_name, program_name); fputs (_("\ -- 2.5.5 --------------040907000603060801070408-- From unknown Sat Jun 21 03:29:40 2025 X-Loop: help-debbugs@gnu.org Subject: bug#24077: VS: bug in MAN page for data command Resent-From: Bernhard Voelker Original-Sender: "Debbugs-submit" Resent-CC: bug-coreutils@gnu.org Resent-Date: Wed, 27 Jul 2016 10:43:02 +0000 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-Sender: help-debbugs@gnu.org X-GNU-PR-Message: followup 24077 X-GNU-PR-Package: coreutils X-GNU-PR-Keywords: To: =?UTF-8?Q?P=C3=A1draig?= Brady , 24077-done@debbugs.gnu.org, eggert@cs.ucla.edu, lsa@logos.dk Received: via spool by 24077-done@debbugs.gnu.org id=D24077.146961612421503 (code D ref 24077); Wed, 27 Jul 2016 10:43:02 +0000 Received: (at 24077-done) by debbugs.gnu.org; 27 Jul 2016 10:42:04 +0000 Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:38758 helo=debbugs.gnu.org) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1bSMHs-0005ak-5b for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; 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Wed, 27 Jul 2016 11:40:08 -0700 (PDT) Received: from [100.68.254.135] (ip65-46-187-134.z187-46-65.customer.algx.net [65.46.187.134]) by zimbra.cs.ucla.edu (Postfix) with ESMTPSA id 685B7161193; Wed, 27 Jul 2016 11:40:08 -0700 (PDT) References: <96f47187-f49a-e615-f1c8-6fef96b6fc4a@bernhard-voelker.de> <57987B46.20101@draigBrady.com> From: Paul Eggert Message-ID: Date: Wed, 27 Jul 2016 14:39:56 -0400 User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; Linux i686; rv:45.0) Gecko/20100101 Thunderbird/45.2.0 MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: <57987B46.20101@draigBrady.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-Spam-Score: -1.3 (-) X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18 Precedence: list List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Sender: "Debbugs-submit" X-Spam-Score: -1.3 (-) On 07/27/2016 05:13 AM, P=C3=A1draig Brady wrote: > > It's more natural to use uppercase for larger quantities, > but being consistent with +FORMAT trumps that IMHO. > No, as it's now inconsistent with similar usage elsewhere, e.g.,=20 'touch', 'NEWS'. Please revert, as this change merely introduces new=20 confusion. The %h and %m etc. syntax is different from that of POSIX=20 'date' strings, that's all. From unknown Sat Jun 21 03:29:40 2025 X-Loop: help-debbugs@gnu.org Subject: bug#24077: VS: bug in MAN page for data command Resent-From: Eric Blake Original-Sender: "Debbugs-submit" Resent-CC: bug-coreutils@gnu.org Resent-Date: Wed, 27 Jul 2016 20:12:01 +0000 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-Sender: help-debbugs@gnu.org X-GNU-PR-Message: followup 24077 X-GNU-PR-Package: coreutils X-GNU-PR-Keywords: To: Paul Eggert , =?UTF-8?Q?P=C3=A1draig?= Brady , Bernhard Voelker , 24077-done@debbugs.gnu.org, lsa@logos.dk Received: via spool by 24077-done@debbugs.gnu.org id=D24077.14696502765943 (code D ref 24077); Wed, 27 Jul 2016 20:12:01 +0000 Received: (at 24077-done) by debbugs.gnu.org; 27 Jul 2016 20:11:16 +0000 Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:48498 helo=debbugs.gnu.org) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1bSVAi-0001Xm-IV for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Wed, 27 Jul 2016 16:11:16 -0400 Received: from mx1.redhat.com ([209.132.183.28]:59956) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1bSVAg-0001XX-L2 for 24077-done@debbugs.gnu.org; Wed, 27 Jul 2016 16:11:15 -0400 Received: from int-mx11.intmail.prod.int.phx2.redhat.com (int-mx11.intmail.prod.int.phx2.redhat.com [10.5.11.24]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES256-GCM-SHA384 (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by mx1.redhat.com (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 4FE3480F6B; Wed, 27 Jul 2016 20:11:08 +0000 (UTC) Received: from [10.3.116.179] (ovpn-116-179.phx2.redhat.com [10.3.116.179]) by int-mx11.intmail.prod.int.phx2.redhat.com (8.14.4/8.14.4) with ESMTP id u6RKB7g1027498; Wed, 27 Jul 2016 16:11:07 -0400 References: <96f47187-f49a-e615-f1c8-6fef96b6fc4a@bernhard-voelker.de> <57987B46.20101@draigBrady.com> From: Eric Blake Openpgp: url=http://people.redhat.com/eblake/eblake.gpg Organization: Red Hat, Inc. Message-ID: <5799155A.9040503@redhat.com> Date: Wed, 27 Jul 2016 14:11:06 -0600 User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; Linux x86_64; rv:38.0) Gecko/20100101 Thunderbird/38.3.0 MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: Content-Type: multipart/signed; micalg=pgp-sha256; protocol="application/pgp-signature"; boundary="dfTqgSB39iGiWMRWrOMmAnNiJbnEMsmQq" X-Scanned-By: MIMEDefang 2.68 on 10.5.11.24 X-Greylist: Sender IP whitelisted, not delayed by milter-greylist-4.5.16 (mx1.redhat.com [10.5.110.27]); Wed, 27 Jul 2016 20:11:08 +0000 (UTC) X-Spam-Score: -6.3 (------) X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18 Precedence: list List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Sender: "Debbugs-submit" X-Spam-Score: -6.3 (------) This is an OpenPGP/MIME signed message (RFC 4880 and 3156) --dfTqgSB39iGiWMRWrOMmAnNiJbnEMsmQq Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="1n4bBlTQsSc4Om5lmLsGoSTwOhm4fHEuN" From: Eric Blake To: Paul Eggert , =?UTF-8?Q?P=c3=a1draig_Brady?= , Bernhard Voelker , 24077-done@debbugs.gnu.org, lsa@logos.dk Message-ID: <5799155A.9040503@redhat.com> Subject: Re: bug#24077: VS: bug in MAN page for data command References: <96f47187-f49a-e615-f1c8-6fef96b6fc4a@bernhard-voelker.de> <57987B46.20101@draigBrady.com> In-Reply-To: --1n4bBlTQsSc4Om5lmLsGoSTwOhm4fHEuN Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable On 07/27/2016 12:39 PM, Paul Eggert wrote: > On 07/27/2016 05:13 AM, P=C3=A1draig Brady wrote: >> >> It's more natural to use uppercase for larger quantities, >> but being consistent with +FORMAT trumps that IMHO. >> >=20 > No, as it's now inconsistent with similar usage elsewhere, e.g., > 'touch', 'NEWS'. Please revert, as this change merely introduces new > confusion. The %h and %m etc. syntax is different from that of POSIX > 'date' strings, that's all. As a compromise, can we mention that MMDDhhmm[[CCYY][.ss]] output can be produced by the %m%d%H%M%C%y.%S format, as an additional line of text? --=20 Eric Blake eblake redhat com +1-919-301-3266 Libvirt virtualization library http://libvirt.org --1n4bBlTQsSc4Om5lmLsGoSTwOhm4fHEuN-- --dfTqgSB39iGiWMRWrOMmAnNiJbnEMsmQq Content-Type: application/pgp-signature; name="signature.asc" Content-Description: OpenPGP digital signature Content-Disposition: attachment; filename="signature.asc" -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v2 Comment: Public key at http://people.redhat.com/eblake/eblake.gpg Comment: Using GnuPG with Thunderbird - http://www.enigmail.net/ iQEcBAEBCAAGBQJXmRVaAAoJEKeha0olJ0NqQzwH/jGNVDs0+S0eeZRGibBnSwn3 9iz1DhrnS8YC0gG41HuU75H3Mr2fJP7hZBTXSx/pVGrryknR7DLqTBHq7U2slIlc DcYh1mCJe1tsNHnn1nvTm1DgVtdU5zKLNbngtj5IOa5TJafsyQ3cpiQAsrnEPlao J3/Dn7pFg3anriZWwaVjH0myEYUQuknM2sWToLbZY+jAc59Cg62Px6qI78tTIkPX eGl2Mx9qHeClHaW11CuSbs50YvT9t1RGphbitimAW+yK4VdpsRALKG5bcibBCo0U MiHI8Tln+yWZqzgP3l0bStzcPjV1BtZQ+YLqUoArcJAUgOO75idHyu5DKuCYV/k= =3XUY -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --dfTqgSB39iGiWMRWrOMmAnNiJbnEMsmQq-- From unknown Sat Jun 21 03:29:40 2025 X-Loop: help-debbugs@gnu.org Subject: bug#24077: VS: bug in MAN page for data command Resent-From: Paul Eggert Original-Sender: "Debbugs-submit" Resent-CC: bug-coreutils@gnu.org Resent-Date: Thu, 28 Jul 2016 05:28:01 +0000 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-Sender: help-debbugs@gnu.org X-GNU-PR-Message: followup 24077 X-GNU-PR-Package: coreutils X-GNU-PR-Keywords: To: Eric Blake , =?UTF-8?Q?P=C3=A1draig?= Brady , Bernhard Voelker , 24077-done@debbugs.gnu.org, lsa@logos.dk Received: via spool by 24077-done@debbugs.gnu.org id=D24077.146968366832196 (code D ref 24077); Thu, 28 Jul 2016 05:28:01 +0000 Received: (at 24077-done) by debbugs.gnu.org; 28 Jul 2016 05:27:48 +0000 Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:48771 helo=debbugs.gnu.org) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1bSdrI-0008ND-2y for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Thu, 28 Jul 2016 01:27:48 -0400 Received: from zimbra.cs.ucla.edu ([131.179.128.68]:51443) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1bSdrG-0008Mv-Jg for 24077-done@debbugs.gnu.org; Thu, 28 Jul 2016 01:27:47 -0400 Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by zimbra.cs.ucla.edu (Postfix) with ESMTP id CF615160E3A; Wed, 27 Jul 2016 22:27:40 -0700 (PDT) Received: from zimbra.cs.ucla.edu ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (zimbra.cs.ucla.edu [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10032) with ESMTP id VF2L1tTrCyt4; Wed, 27 Jul 2016 22:27:40 -0700 (PDT) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by zimbra.cs.ucla.edu (Postfix) with ESMTP id 31EEE1601CD; Wed, 27 Jul 2016 22:27:40 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at zimbra.cs.ucla.edu Received: from zimbra.cs.ucla.edu ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (zimbra.cs.ucla.edu [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10026) with ESMTP id DgtZ6MtRf5M7; Wed, 27 Jul 2016 22:27:40 -0700 (PDT) Received: from [192.168.1.9] (unknown [100.32.155.148]) by zimbra.cs.ucla.edu (Postfix) with ESMTPSA id 1098F1601A7; Wed, 27 Jul 2016 22:27:40 -0700 (PDT) References: <96f47187-f49a-e615-f1c8-6fef96b6fc4a@bernhard-voelker.de> <57987B46.20101@draigBrady.com> <5799155A.9040503@redhat.com> From: Paul Eggert Organization: UCLA Computer Science Department Message-ID: Date: Wed, 27 Jul 2016 22:27:39 -0700 User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; Linux x86_64; rv:45.0) Gecko/20100101 Thunderbird/45.2.0 MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: <5799155A.9040503@redhat.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-Spam-Score: -1.3 (-) X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18 Precedence: list List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Sender: "Debbugs-submit" X-Spam-Score: -1.3 (-) Eric Blake wrote: > As a compromise, can we mention that MMDDhhmm[[CCYY][.ss]] output can b= e > produced by the %m%d%H%M%C%y.%S format, as an additional line of text? Unfortunately that format does not work when the century is outside the r= ange 00-99. Whatever we do, we should do consistently in 'date' and 'touch' and etc. The POSIX spec uses all lower case, which is confusing in a different way= but is=20 at least standardized. From unknown Sat Jun 21 03:29:40 2025 X-Loop: help-debbugs@gnu.org Subject: bug#24077: VS: bug in MAN page for data command Resent-From: =?UTF-8?Q?P=C3=A1draig?= Brady Original-Sender: "Debbugs-submit" Resent-CC: bug-coreutils@gnu.org Resent-Date: Thu, 28 Jul 2016 11:37:01 +0000 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-Sender: help-debbugs@gnu.org X-GNU-PR-Message: followup 24077 X-GNU-PR-Package: coreutils X-GNU-PR-Keywords: To: Paul Eggert , Eric Blake , Bernhard Voelker , 24077@debbugs.gnu.org, lsa@logos.dk Received: via spool by 24077-submit@debbugs.gnu.org id=B24077.14697057646773 (code B ref 24077); Thu, 28 Jul 2016 11:37:01 +0000 Received: (at 24077) by debbugs.gnu.org; 28 Jul 2016 11:36:04 +0000 Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:48885 helo=debbugs.gnu.org) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1bSjbg-0001l9-CQ for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Thu, 28 Jul 2016 07:36:04 -0400 Received: from mail.magicbluesmoke.com ([82.195.144.49]:57310) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1bSjbe-0001kk-DX; Thu, 28 Jul 2016 07:36:02 -0400 Received: from [192.168.1.80] (unknown [109.79.104.150]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES128-GCM-SHA256 (128/128 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by mail.magicbluesmoke.com (Postfix) with ESMTPSA id 8A8159493; Thu, 28 Jul 2016 12:35:57 +0100 (IST) References: <96f47187-f49a-e615-f1c8-6fef96b6fc4a@bernhard-voelker.de> <57987B46.20101@draigBrady.com> <5799155A.9040503@redhat.com> From: =?UTF-8?Q?P=C3=A1draig?= Brady Message-ID: <5799EE1B.6050501@draigBrady.com> Date: Thu, 28 Jul 2016 12:35:55 +0100 User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; Linux x86_64; rv:38.0) Gecko/20100101 Thunderbird/38.3.0 MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-Spam-Score: 0.0 (/) X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18 Precedence: list List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Sender: "Debbugs-submit" X-Spam-Score: 0.0 (/) tag 24077 wontfix stop On 28/07/16 06:27, Paul Eggert wrote: > Eric Blake wrote: >> As a compromise, can we mention that MMDDhhmm[[CCYY][.ss]] output can be >> produced by the %m%d%H%M%C%y.%S format, as an additional line of text? > > Unfortunately that format does not work when the century is outside the range 00-99. :) > Whatever we do, we should do consistently in 'date' and 'touch' and etc. > The POSIX spec uses all lower case, which is confusing in a different way but is > at least standardized. Well it just a representation of placeholders for numbers. There's nothing "standard" about it. IMHO as long as it's unambiguous it's fine. Though I think overall ambiguity is reduced here, I don't feel strongly about it, so will revert.