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Mixed in with the normal text are protocol logs that have \r\n line endings. I have confirmed that replacement of those line endings will stop the bug from happening. The bug happens with all 25.x versions I have including master, the earliest one I can still test is from February 27th this year. To reproduce, set a mark (C-Space) somewhere in the file. Then extend/shrink the selection region by doing Shift-PgUp / Shift-PgDwn, going back and forth several times. Once you've crossed a portion of the file that has the "foreign" line endings, as soon as you take your finger off the Shift key Emacs becomes unresponsive (the cursor vanishes). Several seconds later it starts allocating memory in an apparently exponential fashion until it has exhausted both physical and swap, while maxing out one CPU core. The process must be killed. Trying the same recipe with Emacs 24.5 yields a short phase of unresponsiveness with the cursor vanished, then it returns with an error message "Timed out waiting for property-notify event". I consider this a blocker for the upcoming 25.1 release. Regards, Achim. -- +<[Q+ Matrix-12 WAVE#46+305 Neuron microQkb Andromeda XTk Blofeld]>+ SD adaptations for Waldorf Q V3.00R3 and Q+ V3.54R2: http://Synth.Stromeko.net/Downloads.html#WaldorfSDada --=-=-=-- From debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Sun Jul 17 10:20:04 2016 Received: (at 24013) by debbugs.gnu.org; 17 Jul 2016 14:20:04 +0000 Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:54648 helo=debbugs.gnu.org) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1bOmvL-00068J-Th for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Sun, 17 Jul 2016 10:20:04 -0400 Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([208.118.235.92]:44729) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1bOmvK-00067m-Ig for 24013@debbugs.gnu.org; Sun, 17 Jul 2016 10:20:03 -0400 Received: from Debian-exim by eggs.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1bOmvC-00029z-9n for 24013@debbugs.gnu.org; Sun, 17 Jul 2016 10:19:57 -0400 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.3.2 (2011-06-06) on eggs.gnu.org X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-0.5 required=5.0 tests=BAYES_50,RP_MATCHES_RCVD autolearn=disabled version=3.3.2 Received: from fencepost.gnu.org ([2001:4830:134:3::e]:35950) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1bOmvC-00029E-6N; Sun, 17 Jul 2016 10:19:54 -0400 Received: from 84.94.185.246.cable.012.net.il ([84.94.185.246]:1688 helo=home-c4e4a596f7) by fencepost.gnu.org with esmtpsa (TLS1.2:RSA_AES_128_CBC_SHA1:128) (Exim 4.82) (envelope-from ) id 1bOmvA-0003BN-A4; Sun, 17 Jul 2016 10:19:52 -0400 Date: Sun, 17 Jul 2016 17:19:46 +0300 Message-Id: <83eg6s2vp9.fsf@gnu.org> From: Eli Zaretskii To: Achim Gratz In-reply-to: <8737n88mm2.fsf@Rainer.invalid> (message from Achim Gratz on Sun, 17 Jul 2016 14:39:33 +0200) Subject: Re: bug#24013: 25.0.95; Emacs 25.x uses up all memory and needs to be killed References: <8737n88mm2.fsf@Rainer.invalid> X-detected-operating-system: by eggs.gnu.org: GNU/Linux 2.2.x-3.x [generic] X-Received-From: 2001:4830:134:3::e X-Spam-Score: -6.3 (------) X-Debbugs-Envelope-To: 24013 Cc: 24013@debbugs.gnu.org X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18 Precedence: list List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Reply-To: Eli Zaretskii Errors-To: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Sender: "Debbugs-submit" X-Spam-Score: -6.3 (------) > From: Achim Gratz > Date: Sun, 17 Jul 2016 14:39:33 +0200 > > To reproduce, set a mark (C-Space) somewhere in the file. Then > extend/shrink the selection region by doing Shift-PgUp / Shift-PgDwn, > going back and forth several times. Once you've crossed a portion of > the file that has the "foreign" line endings, as soon as you take your > finger off the Shift key Emacs becomes unresponsive (the cursor > vanishes). Several seconds later it starts allocating memory in an > apparently exponential fashion until it has exhausted both physical and > swap, while maxing out one CPU core. The process must be killed. > > Trying the same recipe with Emacs 24.5 yields a short phase of > unresponsiveness with the cursor vanished, then it returns with an error > message "Timed out waiting for property-notify event". That error message is related to X selections. Does the problem go away if you disable putting the selected text into the X selections? If it does, do you have some agent running that manages X selections? Also, what is your value of selection-coding-system? Thanks. From debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Sun Jul 17 10:46:48 2016 Received: (at submit) by debbugs.gnu.org; 17 Jul 2016 14:46:48 +0000 Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:54652 helo=debbugs.gnu.org) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1bOnLE-0006jL-5A for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Sun, 17 Jul 2016 10:46:48 -0400 Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([208.118.235.92]:47455) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1bOnLC-0006j7-VV for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Sun, 17 Jul 2016 10:46:47 -0400 Received: from Debian-exim by eggs.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1bOnL6-00061N-Rk for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Sun, 17 Jul 2016 10:46:41 -0400 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.3.2 (2011-06-06) on eggs.gnu.org X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=0.8 required=5.0 tests=BAYES_50 autolearn=disabled version=3.3.2 Received: from lists.gnu.org ([2001:4830:134:3::11]:39738) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1bOnL6-00061J-Oo for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Sun, 17 Jul 2016 10:46:40 -0400 Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([2001:4830:134:3::10]:38425) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1bOnL4-0000oy-Ee for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Sun, 17 Jul 2016 10:46:39 -0400 Received: from Debian-exim by eggs.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1bOnKz-00060r-GI for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Sun, 17 Jul 2016 10:46:37 -0400 Received: from plane.gmane.org ([80.91.229.3]:38083) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1bOnKz-00060b-95 for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Sun, 17 Jul 2016 10:46:33 -0400 Received: from list by plane.gmane.org with local (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1bOnKs-0001ie-Us for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Sun, 17 Jul 2016 16:46:27 +0200 Received: from p54b7fbb0.dip0.t-ipconnect.de ([84.183.251.176]) by main.gmane.org with esmtp (Gmexim 0.1 (Debian)) id 1AlnuQ-0007hv-00 for ; Sun, 17 Jul 2016 16:46:26 +0200 Received: from Stromeko by p54b7fbb0.dip0.t-ipconnect.de with local (Gmexim 0.1 (Debian)) id 1AlnuQ-0007hv-00 for ; Sun, 17 Jul 2016 16:46:26 +0200 X-Injected-Via-Gmane: http://gmane.org/ To: bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org From: Achim Gratz Subject: Re: bug#24013: 25.0.95; Emacs 25.x uses up all memory and needs to be killed Date: Sun, 17 Jul 2016 16:46:19 +0200 Organization: Linux Private Site Lines: 25 Message-ID: <87inw4726c.fsf@Rainer.invalid> References: <8737n88mm2.fsf@Rainer.invalid> <83eg6s2vp9.fsf@gnu.org> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain X-Complaints-To: usenet@ger.gmane.org X-Gmane-NNTP-Posting-Host: p54b7fbb0.dip0.t-ipconnect.de User-Agent: Gnus/5.13 (Gnus v5.13) Emacs/25.1.50 (gnu/linux) Cancel-Lock: sha1:xi/ZUgEvkvOBZNSkL3QjIdXdAmo= X-detected-operating-system: by eggs.gnu.org: Genre and OS details not recognized. X-detected-operating-system: by eggs.gnu.org: GNU/Linux 2.6.x X-Received-From: 2001:4830:134:3::11 X-Spam-Score: -4.1 (----) X-Debbugs-Envelope-To: submit X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18 Precedence: list List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Sender: "Debbugs-submit" X-Spam-Score: -4.1 (----) Eli Zaretskii writes: >> Trying the same recipe with Emacs 24.5 yields a short phase of >> unresponsiveness with the cursor vanished, then it returns with an error >> message "Timed out waiting for property-notify event". > > That error message is related to X selections. Does the problem go > away if you disable putting the selected text into the X selections? How do I do that? > If it does, do you have some agent running that manages X selections? Not that I know of, but maybe Plasma5 has something built-in that does that. > Also, what is your value of selection-coding-system? nil Regards, Achim. -- +<[Q+ Matrix-12 WAVE#46+305 Neuron microQkb Andromeda XTk Blofeld]>+ Waldorf MIDI Implementation & additional documentation: http://Synth.Stromeko.net/Downloads.html#WaldorfDocs From debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Sun Jul 17 11:34:48 2016 Received: (at 24013) by debbugs.gnu.org; 17 Jul 2016 15:34:48 +0000 Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:54673 helo=debbugs.gnu.org) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1bOo5g-0007op-I4 for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Sun, 17 Jul 2016 11:34:48 -0400 Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([208.118.235.92]:56426) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1bOo5d-0007ob-Oh for 24013@debbugs.gnu.org; Sun, 17 Jul 2016 11:34:47 -0400 Received: from Debian-exim by eggs.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1bOo5U-0006mf-Jb for 24013@debbugs.gnu.org; Sun, 17 Jul 2016 11:34:40 -0400 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.3.2 (2011-06-06) on eggs.gnu.org X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-1.3 required=5.0 tests=BAYES_20,RP_MATCHES_RCVD autolearn=disabled version=3.3.2 Received: from fencepost.gnu.org ([2001:4830:134:3::e]:36541) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1bOo5U-0006m4-FU; Sun, 17 Jul 2016 11:34:36 -0400 Received: from 84.94.185.246.cable.012.net.il ([84.94.185.246]:1968 helo=home-c4e4a596f7) by fencepost.gnu.org with esmtpsa (TLS1.2:RSA_AES_128_CBC_SHA1:128) (Exim 4.82) (envelope-from ) id 1bOo5S-00065e-Lk; Sun, 17 Jul 2016 11:34:35 -0400 Date: Sun, 17 Jul 2016 18:34:31 +0300 Message-Id: <83d1mc2s8o.fsf@gnu.org> From: Eli Zaretskii To: Achim Gratz In-reply-to: <87inw4726c.fsf@Rainer.invalid> (message from Achim Gratz on Sun, 17 Jul 2016 16:46:19 +0200) Subject: Re: bug#24013: 25.0.95; Emacs 25.x uses up all memory and needs to be killed References: <8737n88mm2.fsf@Rainer.invalid> <83eg6s2vp9.fsf@gnu.org> <87inw4726c.fsf@Rainer.invalid> X-detected-operating-system: by eggs.gnu.org: GNU/Linux 2.2.x-3.x [generic] X-Received-From: 2001:4830:134:3::e X-Spam-Score: -6.3 (------) X-Debbugs-Envelope-To: 24013 Cc: 24013@debbugs.gnu.org X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18 Precedence: list List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Reply-To: Eli Zaretskii Errors-To: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Sender: "Debbugs-submit" X-Spam-Score: -6.3 (------) > From: Achim Gratz > Date: Sun, 17 Jul 2016 16:46:19 +0200 > > > That error message is related to X selections. Does the problem go > > away if you disable putting the selected text into the X selections? > > How do I do that? Set select-active-regions to nil. > > If it does, do you have some agent running that manages X selections? > > Not that I know of, but maybe Plasma5 has something built-in that does that. If the above solves the issue, try disabling Plasma5 without disabling select-active-regions. Thanks. From debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Sun Jul 17 12:17:17 2016 Received: (at submit) by debbugs.gnu.org; 17 Jul 2016 16:17:18 +0000 Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:54689 helo=debbugs.gnu.org) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1bOokn-0000MM-No for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Sun, 17 Jul 2016 12:17:17 -0400 Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([208.118.235.92]:39312) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1bOokl-0000M9-Qe for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Sun, 17 Jul 2016 12:17:16 -0400 Received: from Debian-exim by eggs.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1bOokf-0007JV-K7 for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Sun, 17 Jul 2016 12:17:10 -0400 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.3.2 (2011-06-06) on eggs.gnu.org X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-0.0 required=5.0 tests=BAYES_20 autolearn=disabled version=3.3.2 Received: from lists.gnu.org ([2001:4830:134:3::11]:58109) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1bOokf-0007JP-Gp for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Sun, 17 Jul 2016 12:17:09 -0400 Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([2001:4830:134:3::10]:58515) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1bOokd-0002cs-BE for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Sun, 17 Jul 2016 12:17:08 -0400 Received: from Debian-exim by eggs.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1bOokX-0007Iq-AN for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Sun, 17 Jul 2016 12:17:06 -0400 Received: from plane.gmane.org ([80.91.229.3]:40861) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1bOokX-0007Ii-3L for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Sun, 17 Jul 2016 12:17:01 -0400 Received: from list by plane.gmane.org with local (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1bOokS-0006q4-V1 for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Sun, 17 Jul 2016 18:16:56 +0200 Received: from p54b7fbb0.dip0.t-ipconnect.de ([84.183.251.176]) by main.gmane.org with esmtp (Gmexim 0.1 (Debian)) id 1AlnuQ-0007hv-00 for ; Sun, 17 Jul 2016 18:16:56 +0200 Received: from Stromeko by p54b7fbb0.dip0.t-ipconnect.de with local (Gmexim 0.1 (Debian)) id 1AlnuQ-0007hv-00 for ; Sun, 17 Jul 2016 18:16:56 +0200 X-Injected-Via-Gmane: http://gmane.org/ To: bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org From: Achim Gratz Subject: Re: bug#24013: 25.0.95; Emacs 25.x uses up all memory and needs to be killed Date: Sun, 17 Jul 2016 18:16:42 +0200 Organization: Linux Private Site Lines: 24 Message-ID: <87eg6s6xzp.fsf@Rainer.invalid> References: <8737n88mm2.fsf@Rainer.invalid> <83eg6s2vp9.fsf@gnu.org> <87inw4726c.fsf@Rainer.invalid> <83d1mc2s8o.fsf@gnu.org> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain X-Complaints-To: usenet@ger.gmane.org X-Gmane-NNTP-Posting-Host: p54b7fbb0.dip0.t-ipconnect.de User-Agent: Gnus/5.13 (Gnus v5.13) Emacs/25.1.50 (gnu/linux) Cancel-Lock: sha1:6oaydPttDqGIJej7r7Friwc8y9w= X-detected-operating-system: by eggs.gnu.org: Genre and OS details not recognized. X-detected-operating-system: by eggs.gnu.org: GNU/Linux 2.6.x X-Received-From: 2001:4830:134:3::11 X-Spam-Score: -4.1 (----) X-Debbugs-Envelope-To: submit X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18 Precedence: list List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Sender: "Debbugs-submit" X-Spam-Score: -4.1 (----) Eli Zaretskii writes: >> How do I do that? > > Set select-active-regions to nil. Works. >> > If it does, do you have some agent running that manages X selections? >> >> Not that I know of, but maybe Plasma5 has something built-in that does that. > > If the above solves the issue, try disabling Plasma5 without disabling > select-active-regions. Uh? That runs my desktop, there's no way of disabling it. Regards, Achim. -- +<[Q+ Matrix-12 WAVE#46+305 Neuron microQkb Andromeda XTk Blofeld]>+ Samples for the Waldorf Blofeld: http://Synth.Stromeko.net/Downloads.html#BlofeldSamplesExtra From debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Sun Jul 17 12:42:21 2016 Received: (at 24013) by debbugs.gnu.org; 17 Jul 2016 16:42:21 +0000 Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:54702 helo=debbugs.gnu.org) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1bOp92-0000w8-QS for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Sun, 17 Jul 2016 12:42:21 -0400 Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([208.118.235.92]:44502) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1bOp91-0000vu-Cx for 24013@debbugs.gnu.org; Sun, 17 Jul 2016 12:42:19 -0400 Received: from Debian-exim by eggs.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1bOp8s-0003w7-9B for 24013@debbugs.gnu.org; Sun, 17 Jul 2016 12:42:14 -0400 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.3.2 (2011-06-06) on eggs.gnu.org X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-1.3 required=5.0 tests=BAYES_20,RP_MATCHES_RCVD autolearn=disabled version=3.3.2 Received: from fencepost.gnu.org ([2001:4830:134:3::e]:37737) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1bOp8s-0003va-68; Sun, 17 Jul 2016 12:42:10 -0400 Received: from 84.94.185.246.cable.012.net.il ([84.94.185.246]:2050 helo=home-c4e4a596f7) by fencepost.gnu.org with esmtpsa (TLS1.2:RSA_AES_128_CBC_SHA1:128) (Exim 4.82) (envelope-from ) id 1bOp8q-0003sb-Cm; Sun, 17 Jul 2016 12:42:08 -0400 Date: Sun, 17 Jul 2016 19:42:04 +0300 Message-Id: <83a8hg2p43.fsf@gnu.org> From: Eli Zaretskii To: Achim Gratz In-reply-to: <87eg6s6xzp.fsf@Rainer.invalid> (message from Achim Gratz on Sun, 17 Jul 2016 18:16:42 +0200) Subject: Re: bug#24013: 25.0.95; Emacs 25.x uses up all memory and needs to be killed References: <8737n88mm2.fsf@Rainer.invalid> <83eg6s2vp9.fsf@gnu.org> <87inw4726c.fsf@Rainer.invalid> <83d1mc2s8o.fsf@gnu.org> <87eg6s6xzp.fsf@Rainer.invalid> X-detected-operating-system: by eggs.gnu.org: GNU/Linux 2.2.x-3.x [generic] X-Received-From: 2001:4830:134:3::e X-Spam-Score: -6.3 (------) X-Debbugs-Envelope-To: 24013 Cc: 24013@debbugs.gnu.org X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18 Precedence: list List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Reply-To: Eli Zaretskii Errors-To: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Sender: "Debbugs-submit" X-Spam-Score: -6.3 (------) > From: Achim Gratz > Date: Sun, 17 Jul 2016 18:16:42 +0200 > > > Set select-active-regions to nil. > > Works. OK, so the problem, whatever it is, is directly related to putting text into the primary selection. > >> Not that I know of, but maybe Plasma5 has something built-in that does that. > > > > If the above solves the issue, try disabling Plasma5 without disabling > > select-active-regions. > > Uh? That runs my desktop, there's no way of disabling it. Ah, sorry, my misunderstanding, I thought Plasma5 was only handling the selections. I guess the next step is to see which memory allocation in xselect.c goes awry, and why. Unfortunately, I don't have access to a system where this could be reproduced. From debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Sun Jul 17 12:43:48 2016 Received: (at submit) by debbugs.gnu.org; 17 Jul 2016 16:43:48 +0000 Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:54706 helo=debbugs.gnu.org) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1bOpAS-0000y8-6h for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Sun, 17 Jul 2016 12:43:48 -0400 Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([208.118.235.92]:44803) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1bOpAQ-0000xu-9N for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Sun, 17 Jul 2016 12:43:46 -0400 Received: from Debian-exim by eggs.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1bOpAK-0004AP-AX for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Sun, 17 Jul 2016 12:43:41 -0400 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.3.2 (2011-06-06) on eggs.gnu.org X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=0.8 required=5.0 tests=BAYES_50 autolearn=disabled version=3.3.2 Received: from lists.gnu.org ([2001:4830:134:3::11]:60145) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1bOpAK-00049p-7s for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Sun, 17 Jul 2016 12:43:40 -0400 Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([2001:4830:134:3::10]:35762) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1bOpAH-0003Fe-VY for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Sun, 17 Jul 2016 12:43:38 -0400 Received: from Debian-exim by eggs.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1bOpAE-00049H-O9 for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Sun, 17 Jul 2016 12:43:37 -0400 Received: from plane.gmane.org ([80.91.229.3]:41746) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1bOpAE-00048x-Gp for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Sun, 17 Jul 2016 12:43:34 -0400 Received: from list by plane.gmane.org with local (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1bOpA9-0004Kn-JQ for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Sun, 17 Jul 2016 18:43:29 +0200 Received: from p54b7fbb0.dip0.t-ipconnect.de ([84.183.251.176]) by main.gmane.org with esmtp (Gmexim 0.1 (Debian)) id 1AlnuQ-0007hv-00 for ; Sun, 17 Jul 2016 18:43:29 +0200 Received: from Stromeko by p54b7fbb0.dip0.t-ipconnect.de with local (Gmexim 0.1 (Debian)) id 1AlnuQ-0007hv-00 for ; Sun, 17 Jul 2016 18:43:29 +0200 X-Injected-Via-Gmane: http://gmane.org/ To: bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org From: Achim Gratz Subject: Re: bug#24013: 25.0.95; Emacs 25.x uses up all memory and needs to be killed Date: Sun, 17 Jul 2016 18:43:17 +0200 Organization: Linux Private Site Lines: 21 Message-ID: <87a8hg6wre.fsf@Rainer.invalid> References: <8737n88mm2.fsf@Rainer.invalid> <83eg6s2vp9.fsf@gnu.org> <87inw4726c.fsf@Rainer.invalid> <83d1mc2s8o.fsf@gnu.org> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-Complaints-To: usenet@ger.gmane.org X-Gmane-NNTP-Posting-Host: p54b7fbb0.dip0.t-ipconnect.de User-Agent: Gnus/5.13 (Gnus v5.13) Emacs/25.1.50 (gnu/linux) Cancel-Lock: sha1:E+NW9fn01t+UhEeyslQQitQvIuA= X-detected-operating-system: by eggs.gnu.org: Genre and OS details not recognized. X-detected-operating-system: by eggs.gnu.org: GNU/Linux 2.6.x X-Received-From: 2001:4830:134:3::11 X-Spam-Score: -4.1 (----) X-Debbugs-Envelope-To: submit X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18 Precedence: list List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Sender: "Debbugs-submit" X-Spam-Score: -4.1 (----) Eli Zaretskii writes: >> Not that I know of, but maybe Plasma5 has something built-in that does that. > > If the above solves the issue, try disabling Plasma5 without disabling > select-active-regions. After a bit of digging, it turns out that "klipper" (which I've chucked out long ago due to it's uselessness to me) has indeed be replaced by something integrated directly into Plasma5 (at least I can't find any conspicously named process)… So, hunting down the configuration dialog for the Clipboard and setting the option to "Ignore Selection" seems to fix the problem. Regards, Achim. -- +<[Q+ Matrix-12 WAVE#46+305 Neuron microQkb Andromeda XTk Blofeld]>+ Wavetables for the Waldorf Blofeld: http://Synth.Stromeko.net/Downloads.html#BlofeldUserWavetables From debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Sun Jul 17 13:17:40 2016 Received: (at 24013) by debbugs.gnu.org; 17 Jul 2016 17:17:40 +0000 Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:54739 helo=debbugs.gnu.org) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1bOphE-0001ko-EM for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Sun, 17 Jul 2016 13:17:40 -0400 Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([208.118.235.92]:50072) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1bOphD-0001kb-Ns for 24013@debbugs.gnu.org; Sun, 17 Jul 2016 13:17:40 -0400 Received: from Debian-exim by eggs.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1bOph4-0001eq-CS for 24013@debbugs.gnu.org; Sun, 17 Jul 2016 13:17:34 -0400 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.3.2 (2011-06-06) on eggs.gnu.org X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-0.5 required=5.0 tests=BAYES_50,RP_MATCHES_RCVD autolearn=disabled version=3.3.2 Received: from fencepost.gnu.org ([2001:4830:134:3::e]:38513) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1bOph4-0001el-93; Sun, 17 Jul 2016 13:17:30 -0400 Received: from 84.94.185.246.cable.012.net.il ([84.94.185.246]:2081 helo=home-c4e4a596f7) by fencepost.gnu.org with esmtpsa (TLS1.2:RSA_AES_128_CBC_SHA1:128) (Exim 4.82) (envelope-from ) id 1bOph0-000343-DX; Sun, 17 Jul 2016 13:17:28 -0400 Date: Sun, 17 Jul 2016 20:17:12 +0300 Message-Id: <837fck2nhj.fsf@gnu.org> From: Eli Zaretskii To: Achim Gratz In-reply-to: <87a8hg6wre.fsf@Rainer.invalid> (message from Achim Gratz on Sun, 17 Jul 2016 18:43:17 +0200) Subject: Re: bug#24013: 25.0.95; Emacs 25.x uses up all memory and needs to be killed References: <8737n88mm2.fsf@Rainer.invalid> <83eg6s2vp9.fsf@gnu.org> <87inw4726c.fsf@Rainer.invalid> <83d1mc2s8o.fsf@gnu.org> <87a8hg6wre.fsf@Rainer.invalid> MIME-version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-detected-operating-system: by eggs.gnu.org: GNU/Linux 2.2.x-3.x [generic] X-Received-From: 2001:4830:134:3::e X-Spam-Score: -6.3 (------) X-Debbugs-Envelope-To: 24013 Cc: 24013@debbugs.gnu.org X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18 Precedence: list List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Reply-To: Eli Zaretskii Errors-To: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Sender: "Debbugs-submit" X-Spam-Score: -6.3 (------) > From: Achim Gratz > Date: Sun, 17 Jul 2016 18:43:17 +0200 > > After a bit of digging, it turns out that "klipper" (which I've chucked > out long ago due to it's uselessness to me) has indeed be replaced by > something integrated directly into Plasma5 (at least I can't find any > conspicously named process)… So, hunting down the configuration dialog > for the Clipboard and setting the option to "Ignore Selection" seems to > fix the problem. Thanks. But does this mean you cannot put active regions into the primary selection? Or is that functionality intact after setting the above option? From debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Sun Jul 17 13:58:59 2016 Received: (at submit) by debbugs.gnu.org; 17 Jul 2016 17:58:59 +0000 Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:54760 helo=debbugs.gnu.org) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1bOqLD-0002h1-M8 for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Sun, 17 Jul 2016 13:58:59 -0400 Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([208.118.235.92]:57006) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1bOqLB-0002gn-Ft for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Sun, 17 Jul 2016 13:58:57 -0400 Received: from Debian-exim by eggs.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1bOqL5-0000fB-GU for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Sun, 17 Jul 2016 13:58:52 -0400 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.3.2 (2011-06-06) on eggs.gnu.org X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=0.8 required=5.0 tests=BAYES_50 autolearn=disabled version=3.3.2 Received: from lists.gnu.org ([2001:4830:134:3::11]:54463) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1bOqL5-0000eu-DF for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Sun, 17 Jul 2016 13:58:51 -0400 Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([2001:4830:134:3::10]:47945) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1bOqL3-0006bA-G5 for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Sun, 17 Jul 2016 13:58:50 -0400 Received: from Debian-exim by eggs.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1bOqKx-0000cR-Jc for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Sun, 17 Jul 2016 13:58:48 -0400 Received: from plane.gmane.org ([80.91.229.3]:44334) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1bOqKx-0000cF-Cc for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Sun, 17 Jul 2016 13:58:43 -0400 Received: from list by plane.gmane.org with local (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1bOqKu-0002jm-Sh for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Sun, 17 Jul 2016 19:58:40 +0200 Received: from p54b7fbb0.dip0.t-ipconnect.de ([84.183.251.176]) by main.gmane.org with esmtp (Gmexim 0.1 (Debian)) id 1AlnuQ-0007hv-00 for ; Sun, 17 Jul 2016 19:58:40 +0200 Received: from Stromeko by p54b7fbb0.dip0.t-ipconnect.de with local (Gmexim 0.1 (Debian)) id 1AlnuQ-0007hv-00 for ; Sun, 17 Jul 2016 19:58:40 +0200 X-Injected-Via-Gmane: http://gmane.org/ To: bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org From: Achim Gratz Subject: Re: bug#24013: 25.0.95; Emacs 25.x uses up all memory and needs to be killed Date: Sun, 17 Jul 2016 19:58:34 +0200 Organization: Linux Private Site Lines: 22 Message-ID: <8760s46t9x.fsf@Rainer.invalid> References: <8737n88mm2.fsf@Rainer.invalid> <83eg6s2vp9.fsf@gnu.org> <87inw4726c.fsf@Rainer.invalid> <83d1mc2s8o.fsf@gnu.org> <87a8hg6wre.fsf@Rainer.invalid> <837fck2nhj.fsf@gnu.org> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain X-Complaints-To: usenet@ger.gmane.org X-Gmane-NNTP-Posting-Host: p54b7fbb0.dip0.t-ipconnect.de User-Agent: Gnus/5.13 (Gnus v5.13) Emacs/25.1.50 (gnu/linux) Cancel-Lock: sha1:Yp8nSjPqtBP2AsIJkZvW1fhO/8U= X-detected-operating-system: by eggs.gnu.org: Genre and OS details not recognized. X-detected-operating-system: by eggs.gnu.org: GNU/Linux 2.6.x X-Received-From: 2001:4830:134:3::11 X-Spam-Score: -4.1 (----) X-Debbugs-Envelope-To: submit X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18 Precedence: list List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Sender: "Debbugs-submit" X-Spam-Score: -4.1 (----) Eli Zaretskii writes: > Thanks. But does this mean you cannot put active regions into the > primary selection? Or is that functionality intact after setting the > above option? It doesn't seem to change anything I care about so far. In fact it brings back the behaviour that the clipboard only contains stuff that gets explicitly copied instead of just about anything that gets selected. You'd have to ask someone else how this is supposed to work in the other mode, I'm afraid. There are two more options when "Ignore Selection" is off: one is selected by default ("Text selections only") and the other is off ("Synchronize contents of selection and clipboard"). Regards, Achim. -- +<[Q+ Matrix-12 WAVE#46+305 Neuron microQkb Andromeda XTk Blofeld]>+ SD adaptation for Waldorf microQ V2.22R2: http://Synth.Stromeko.net/Downloads.html#WaldorfSDada From debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Sun Jul 17 14:31:27 2016 Received: (at 24013) by debbugs.gnu.org; 17 Jul 2016 18:31:27 +0000 Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:54768 helo=debbugs.gnu.org) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1bOqqd-0003RJ-A4 for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Sun, 17 Jul 2016 14:31:27 -0400 Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([208.118.235.92]:32966) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1bOqqc-0003R7-1z for 24013@debbugs.gnu.org; Sun, 17 Jul 2016 14:31:26 -0400 Received: from Debian-exim by eggs.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1bOqqR-0006CT-Tb for 24013@debbugs.gnu.org; Sun, 17 Jul 2016 14:31:20 -0400 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.3.2 (2011-06-06) on eggs.gnu.org X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-0.5 required=5.0 tests=BAYES_50,RP_MATCHES_RCVD autolearn=disabled version=3.3.2 Received: from fencepost.gnu.org ([2001:4830:134:3::e]:39704) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1bOqqR-0006CG-QZ; Sun, 17 Jul 2016 14:31:15 -0400 Received: from 84.94.185.246.cable.012.net.il ([84.94.185.246]:2113 helo=home-c4e4a596f7) by fencepost.gnu.org with esmtpsa (TLS1.2:RSA_AES_128_CBC_SHA1:128) (Exim 4.82) (envelope-from ) id 1bOqqN-0002uj-WF; Sun, 17 Jul 2016 14:31:14 -0400 Date: Sun, 17 Jul 2016 21:30:57 +0300 Message-Id: <834m7o2k2m.fsf@gnu.org> From: Eli Zaretskii To: Achim Gratz In-reply-to: <8760s46t9x.fsf@Rainer.invalid> (message from Achim Gratz on Sun, 17 Jul 2016 19:58:34 +0200) Subject: Re: bug#24013: 25.0.95; Emacs 25.x uses up all memory and needs to be killed References: <8737n88mm2.fsf@Rainer.invalid> <83eg6s2vp9.fsf@gnu.org> <87inw4726c.fsf@Rainer.invalid> <83d1mc2s8o.fsf@gnu.org> <87a8hg6wre.fsf@Rainer.invalid> <837fck2nhj.fsf@gnu.org> <8760s46t9x.fsf@Rainer.invalid> X-detected-operating-system: by eggs.gnu.org: GNU/Linux 2.2.x-3.x [generic] X-Received-From: 2001:4830:134:3::e X-Spam-Score: -6.3 (------) X-Debbugs-Envelope-To: 24013 Cc: 24013@debbugs.gnu.org X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18 Precedence: list List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Reply-To: Eli Zaretskii Errors-To: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Sender: "Debbugs-submit" X-Spam-Score: -6.3 (------) > From: Achim Gratz > Date: Sun, 17 Jul 2016 19:58:34 +0200 > > Eli Zaretskii writes: > > Thanks. But does this mean you cannot put active regions into the > > primary selection? Or is that functionality intact after setting the > > above option? > > It doesn't seem to change anything I care about so far. In fact it > brings back the behaviour that the clipboard only contains stuff that > gets explicitly copied instead of just about anything that gets > selected. You'd have to ask someone else how this is supposed to work > in the other mode, I'm afraid. There are two more options when "Ignore > Selection" is off: one is selected by default ("Text selections only") > and the other is off ("Synchronize contents of selection and > clipboard"). I see. Frankly, I feel a bit uneasy that Emacs somehow runs out of memory in any scenario, but other than that, would you consider describing this solution in PROBLEMS as good enough to go ahead with releasing Emacs 25.1? Perhaps even closing this bug? Thanks. From debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Sun Jul 17 14:52:04 2016 Received: (at submit) by debbugs.gnu.org; 17 Jul 2016 18:52:04 +0000 Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:54772 helo=debbugs.gnu.org) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1bOrAa-0003tA-45 for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Sun, 17 Jul 2016 14:52:04 -0400 Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([208.118.235.92]:35619) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1bOrAV-0003sc-Rh for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Sun, 17 Jul 2016 14:52:03 -0400 Received: from Debian-exim by eggs.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1bOrAP-000193-P0 for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Sun, 17 Jul 2016 14:51:54 -0400 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.3.2 (2011-06-06) on eggs.gnu.org X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-0.0 required=5.0 tests=BAYES_40 autolearn=disabled version=3.3.2 Received: from lists.gnu.org ([2001:4830:134:3::11]:33073) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1bOrAP-00018q-Ls for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Sun, 17 Jul 2016 14:51:53 -0400 Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([2001:4830:134:3::10]:54817) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1bOrAN-00035u-GA for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Sun, 17 Jul 2016 14:51:52 -0400 Received: from Debian-exim by eggs.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1bOrAJ-00018Z-Aq for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Sun, 17 Jul 2016 14:51:50 -0400 Received: from plane.gmane.org ([80.91.229.3]:45921) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1bOrAJ-00018V-3t for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Sun, 17 Jul 2016 14:51:47 -0400 Received: from list by plane.gmane.org with local (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1bOrAH-0003yV-UU for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Sun, 17 Jul 2016 20:51:45 +0200 Received: from p54b7fbb0.dip0.t-ipconnect.de ([84.183.251.176]) by main.gmane.org with esmtp (Gmexim 0.1 (Debian)) id 1AlnuQ-0007hv-00 for ; Sun, 17 Jul 2016 20:51:45 +0200 Received: from Stromeko by p54b7fbb0.dip0.t-ipconnect.de with local (Gmexim 0.1 (Debian)) id 1AlnuQ-0007hv-00 for ; Sun, 17 Jul 2016 20:51:45 +0200 X-Injected-Via-Gmane: http://gmane.org/ To: bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org From: Achim Gratz Subject: Re: bug#24013: 25.0.95; Emacs 25.x uses up all memory and needs to be killed Date: Sun, 17 Jul 2016 20:51:33 +0200 Organization: Linux Private Site Lines: 21 Message-ID: <871t2s6qtm.fsf@Rainer.invalid> References: <8737n88mm2.fsf@Rainer.invalid> <83eg6s2vp9.fsf@gnu.org> <87inw4726c.fsf@Rainer.invalid> <83d1mc2s8o.fsf@gnu.org> <87a8hg6wre.fsf@Rainer.invalid> <837fck2nhj.fsf@gnu.org> <8760s46t9x.fsf@Rainer.invalid> <834m7o2k2m.fsf@gnu.org> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain X-Complaints-To: usenet@ger.gmane.org X-Gmane-NNTP-Posting-Host: p54b7fbb0.dip0.t-ipconnect.de User-Agent: Gnus/5.13 (Gnus v5.13) Emacs/25.1.50 (gnu/linux) Cancel-Lock: sha1:nyIkaIxiLbr2xlWGRCMGy90HSFw= X-detected-operating-system: by eggs.gnu.org: Genre and OS details not recognized. X-detected-operating-system: by eggs.gnu.org: GNU/Linux 2.6.x X-Received-From: 2001:4830:134:3::11 X-Spam-Score: -4.1 (----) X-Debbugs-Envelope-To: submit X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18 Precedence: list List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Sender: "Debbugs-submit" X-Spam-Score: -4.1 (----) Eli Zaretskii writes: > I see. Frankly, I feel a bit uneasy that Emacs somehow runs out of > memory in any scenario, but other than that, would you consider > describing this solution in PROBLEMS as good enough to go ahead with > releasing Emacs 25.1? I'll make a proposal. > Perhaps even closing this bug? Emacs shouldn't bring the machine to a halt in any case, so unless we can show it's a fault in Qt5/Plasma5, I'd suggest to keep it open. Regards, Achim. -- +<[Q+ Matrix-12 WAVE#46+305 Neuron microQkb Andromeda XTk Blofeld]>+ SD adaptations for KORG EX-800 and Poly-800MkII V0.9: http://Synth.Stromeko.net/Downloads.html#KorgSDada From debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Sun Jul 17 15:01:46 2016 Received: (at 24013) by debbugs.gnu.org; 17 Jul 2016 19:01:46 +0000 Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:54778 helo=debbugs.gnu.org) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1bOrJy-00047W-3N for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Sun, 17 Jul 2016 15:01:46 -0400 Received: from smtp22.acens.net ([86.109.99.146]:29958 helo=smtp.movistar.es) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1bOrJv-00047G-Fv for 24013@debbugs.gnu.org; Sun, 17 Jul 2016 15:01:44 -0400 X-Junkmail-Premium-Raw: score=8/90, refid=2.7.2:2016.7.17.151216:17:8.317, ip=, rules=__HAS_FROM, __FRAUD_WEBMAIL_FROM, __TO_MALFORMED_2, __HAS_CC_HDR, __MULTIPLE_RCPTS_CC_X2, __BOUNCE_CHALLENGE_SUBJ, __BOUNCE_NDR_SUBJ_EXEMPT, __SUBJ_ALPHA_END, __REFERENCES, __IN_REP_TO, __HAS_MSGID, __SANE_MSGID, __USER_AGENT, __MIME_VERSION, __CT, __CT_TEXT_PLAIN, __UNUSABLE_MSGID, __ANY_URI, __URI_NO_WWW, __FRAUD_BADTHINGS, __SUBJ_ALPHA_NEGATE, BODYTEXTP_SIZE_3000_LESS, BODY_SIZE_400_499, __MIME_TEXT_ONLY, __URI_NS, HTML_00_01, HTML_00_10, BODY_SIZE_5000_LESS, __FRAUD_WEBMAIL, MULTIPLE_RCPTS, __PHISH_SPEAR_STRUCTURE_1, BODY_SIZE_1000_LESS, BODY_SIZE_2000_LESS, MULTIPLE_RCPTS_RND, IN_REP_TO, REFERENCES, BODY_SIZE_7000_LESS, NO_URI_HTTPS, MSG_THREAD, LEGITIMATE_NEGATE Received: from qcore (83.58.75.30) by smtp.movistar.es (8.6.122.03) (authenticated as 981711563$telefonica.net) id 5784FE460045408B; Sun, 17 Jul 2016 19:01:35 +0000 From: =?utf-8?Q?=C3=93scar_Fuentes?= To: Eli Zaretskii Subject: Re: bug#24013: 25.0.95; Emacs 25.x uses up all memory and needs to be killed References: <8737n88mm2.fsf@Rainer.invalid> <83eg6s2vp9.fsf@gnu.org> <87inw4726c.fsf@Rainer.invalid> <83d1mc2s8o.fsf@gnu.org> <87a8hg6wre.fsf@Rainer.invalid> <837fck2nhj.fsf@gnu.org> <8760s46t9x.fsf@Rainer.invalid> <834m7o2k2m.fsf@gnu.org> Date: Sun, 17 Jul 2016 21:01:34 +0200 In-Reply-To: <834m7o2k2m.fsf@gnu.org> (Eli Zaretskii's message of "Sun, 17 Jul 2016 21:30:57 +0300") Message-ID: <87y450m6lt.fsf@wanadoo.es> User-Agent: Gnus/5.13 (Gnus v5.13) Emacs/25.1.50 (gnu/linux) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain X-Spam-Score: 1.0 (+) X-Debbugs-Envelope-To: 24013 Cc: Achim Gratz , 24013@debbugs.gnu.org X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18 Precedence: list List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Sender: "Debbugs-submit" X-Spam-Score: 1.0 (+) Eli Zaretskii writes: [snip] > would you consider > describing this solution in PROBLEMS as good enough to go ahead with > releasing Emacs 25.1? Yes, please. As a KDE user, I'll like to see this problem described along the corresponding workaround. For some reason I also disabled Klipper long time ago and I was unaware that it was replaced. Looking at the KDE Settings panel it is not obvious at all how to disable the replacement. Thanks. From debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Sun Jul 17 16:07:15 2016 Received: (at 24013) by debbugs.gnu.org; 17 Jul 2016 20:07:15 +0000 Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:54815 helo=debbugs.gnu.org) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1bOsLL-0005as-0U for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Sun, 17 Jul 2016 16:07:15 -0400 Received: from mout.gmx.net ([212.227.17.20]:65399) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1bOsLI-0005ae-Ls for 24013@debbugs.gnu.org; Sun, 17 Jul 2016 16:07:13 -0400 Received: from rosalinde ([89.245.91.108]) by mail.gmx.com (mrgmx102) with ESMTPSA (Nemesis) id 0MNO33-1bQpDU3Iev-006t4S; Sun, 17 Jul 2016 22:07:05 +0200 From: Stephen Berman To: Achim Gratz Subject: Re: bug#24013: 25.0.95; Emacs 25.x uses up all memory and needs to be killed References: <8737n88mm2.fsf@Rainer.invalid> <83eg6s2vp9.fsf@gnu.org> <87inw4726c.fsf@Rainer.invalid> <83d1mc2s8o.fsf@gnu.org> <87a8hg6wre.fsf@Rainer.invalid> <837fck2nhj.fsf@gnu.org> <8760s46t9x.fsf@Rainer.invalid> <834m7o2k2m.fsf@gnu.org> <871t2s6qtm.fsf@Rainer.invalid> Date: Sun, 17 Jul 2016 22:07:05 +0200 In-Reply-To: <871t2s6qtm.fsf@Rainer.invalid> (Achim Gratz's message of "Sun, 17 Jul 2016 20:51:33 +0200") Message-ID: <87a8hgowpi.fsf@gmx.net> User-Agent: Gnus/5.13 (Gnus v5.13) Emacs/25.1.50 (gnu/linux) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain X-Provags-ID: V03:K0:Q37KkDrnrb06iDcbGZ4d/iQ8XPkvGmbYdlwnDltapPnbN+rw+bI URr45snO9AuoqrUsNvXap9qHkmVD5wGHWje4CU7u9Wv325T/JpmpNUj9odJV7E6lkqvBoc5 nUiZVWa8QjAbmvVY3ejjd8t0b4dpN7/cFkNTjqZyNJRG/erdBQHrj6xLf164Rqmo9CKtldz BsAKTQoPcD/97NW8TsMOg== X-UI-Out-Filterresults: notjunk:1;V01:K0:Yhz6hTKQ0cU=:Tu7RQR0aGGkVtmmj2ZcrmJ 5EiyQh0Ti6YNJqGEbdRVxQDdDrqD2Hxb+QZ3pKlbNyDRSrQ6ZmEnDdQFFuCs87wbwN0QLNBsh V4O44qPWr2fgmDfEGGkfMX6bTd4T0DB2lRhrvdTiHQaNY6PHc+v00EuVs1ZuAi3JDvgacTHGQ wUl7mev1bvITptVRLds2x13Og17mQjpOqDCBXOR74T2eWOdXUS+9o4ALgJMk1XyUCIMWTfB5a Hah7St3GvCoQFMW/A9MNmqZGqtMTdFieb4uLeD7IHskNyU8vOeKco4O7rkbMNeDdAZNi9fFSA lbbKDQRvLgTsehCddYnnEjA/DrDGbq3kVpSiYD1bKA+wuMQithZIHcvYVKSBfVd3LgQZRBSIR 6juXICoIA4yOKF3CWFeCQ6f8lhc4q8nzQ7JtNbRIQBbajsDll24mL7psT7Qzp2ZNn8YAnscbb u3fxgwnLEHKydt0neatvwheoLbtdYMRtWOVUAaMZ2+6o3O55I9M9x3j+bKqU+p/GpX6aXQCnN RkNUsR+QSv0bFteSy6m9yvnTgCtrrPyuqW2qCzzm24fM7Jr6D3+C5Ub746PbBT6vjOUEyQkuG TMOmgmjvHZvJDPPRAzz43k1e6nBb//zAwlr5NGMa4LLYJdbtSwbCrfJLsOqaImvd5jeTf4Qjv qFoN3n7tkQoB2OhoRl2FtG8biOtr/kqOLI1ubT0APjTaTdRPIcM1vlHLvoG7epJrhFTmomddY W7x+lizxBFyqxY6aOVST1SEd/wCBuk0F1C8giLeaRuLB8h2SGzacdgR1g6XMVHDjX6sda4dgb SqKXgl6 X-Spam-Score: -2.0 (--) X-Debbugs-Envelope-To: 24013 Cc: 24013@debbugs.gnu.org X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18 Precedence: list List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Sender: "Debbugs-submit" X-Spam-Score: -2.0 (--) On Sun, 17 Jul 2016 20:51:33 +0200 Achim Gratz wrote: > Eli Zaretskii writes: >> I see. Frankly, I feel a bit uneasy that Emacs somehow runs out of >> memory in any scenario, but other than that, would you consider >> describing this solution in PROBLEMS as good enough to go ahead with >> releasing Emacs 25.1? > > I'll make a proposal. > >> Perhaps even closing this bug? > > Emacs shouldn't bring the machine to a halt in any case, so unless we > can show it's a fault in Qt5/Plasma5, I'd suggest to keep it open. FWIW, I'm running Emacs under KDE4/Qt4/Plasma4 (openSUSE 13.2, with Klipper running) and I could not reproduce the problems you reported with the file you posted and the recipe you gave: no cursor vanishing, no rampant memory allocation with Emacs 25.x, and no timeout with 24.5. Steve Berman From debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Sun Jul 17 22:32:37 2016 Received: (at 24013) by debbugs.gnu.org; 18 Jul 2016 02:32:37 +0000 Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:54960 helo=debbugs.gnu.org) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1bOyMH-0005qd-79 for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Sun, 17 Jul 2016 22:32:37 -0400 Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([208.118.235.92]:43087) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1bOyMG-0005qO-8Z for 24013@debbugs.gnu.org; Sun, 17 Jul 2016 22:32:36 -0400 Received: from Debian-exim by eggs.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1bOyM7-0000Zb-Tg for 24013@debbugs.gnu.org; Sun, 17 Jul 2016 22:32:31 -0400 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.3.2 (2011-06-06) on eggs.gnu.org X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-0.5 required=5.0 tests=BAYES_50,RP_MATCHES_RCVD autolearn=disabled version=3.3.2 Received: from fencepost.gnu.org ([2001:4830:134:3::e]:45984) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1bOyM7-0000ZX-QK; Sun, 17 Jul 2016 22:32:27 -0400 Received: from 84.94.185.246.cable.012.net.il ([84.94.185.246]:2311 helo=home-c4e4a596f7) by fencepost.gnu.org with esmtpsa (TLS1.2:RSA_AES_128_CBC_SHA1:128) (Exim 4.82) (envelope-from ) id 1bOyM6-0000Hk-Vc; Sun, 17 Jul 2016 22:32:27 -0400 Date: Mon, 18 Jul 2016 05:32:25 +0300 Message-Id: <831t2r3ccm.fsf@gnu.org> From: Eli Zaretskii To: Stephen Berman In-reply-to: <87a8hgowpi.fsf@gmx.net> (message from Stephen Berman on Sun, 17 Jul 2016 22:07:05 +0200) Subject: Re: bug#24013: 25.0.95; Emacs 25.x uses up all memory and needs to be killed References: <8737n88mm2.fsf@Rainer.invalid> <83eg6s2vp9.fsf@gnu.org> <87inw4726c.fsf@Rainer.invalid> <83d1mc2s8o.fsf@gnu.org> <87a8hg6wre.fsf@Rainer.invalid> <837fck2nhj.fsf@gnu.org> <8760s46t9x.fsf@Rainer.invalid> <834m7o2k2m.fsf@gnu.org> <871t2s6qtm.fsf@Rainer.invalid> <87a8hgowpi.fsf@gmx.net> X-detected-operating-system: by eggs.gnu.org: GNU/Linux 2.2.x-3.x [generic] X-Received-From: 2001:4830:134:3::e X-Spam-Score: -6.3 (------) X-Debbugs-Envelope-To: 24013 Cc: Stromeko@nexgo.de, 24013@debbugs.gnu.org X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18 Precedence: list List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Reply-To: Eli Zaretskii Errors-To: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Sender: "Debbugs-submit" X-Spam-Score: -6.3 (------) > From: Stephen Berman > Date: Sun, 17 Jul 2016 22:07:05 +0200 > Cc: 24013@debbugs.gnu.org > > FWIW, I'm running Emacs under KDE4/Qt4/Plasma4 (openSUSE 13.2, with > Klipper running) and I could not reproduce the problems you reported > with the file you posted and the recipe you gave: no cursor vanishing, > no rampant memory allocation with Emacs 25.x, and no timeout with 24.5. Maybe it's a matter of specific versions of these packages? From debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Mon Jul 18 14:37:08 2016 Received: (at submit) by debbugs.gnu.org; 18 Jul 2016 18:37:08 +0000 Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:55991 helo=debbugs.gnu.org) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1bPDPg-0005UQ-7P for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Mon, 18 Jul 2016 14:37:08 -0400 Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([208.118.235.92]:53632) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1bPDPe-0005Tw-8E for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Mon, 18 Jul 2016 14:37:06 -0400 Received: from Debian-exim by eggs.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1bPDPX-0005gC-Sd for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Mon, 18 Jul 2016 14:37:00 -0400 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.3.2 (2011-06-06) on eggs.gnu.org X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=0.8 required=5.0 tests=BAYES_50 autolearn=disabled version=3.3.2 Received: from lists.gnu.org ([2001:4830:134:3::11]:41317) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1bPDPX-0005g6-Pu for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Mon, 18 Jul 2016 14:36:59 -0400 Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([2001:4830:134:3::10]:44595) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1bPDPV-0004pD-Gk for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Mon, 18 Jul 2016 14:36:58 -0400 Received: from Debian-exim by eggs.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1bPDPQ-0005ex-4u for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Mon, 18 Jul 2016 14:36:56 -0400 Received: from plane.gmane.org ([80.91.229.3]:51473) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1bPDPP-0005eq-U3 for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Mon, 18 Jul 2016 14:36:52 -0400 Received: from list by plane.gmane.org with local (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1bPDPM-0005Gj-Nf for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Mon, 18 Jul 2016 20:36:48 +0200 Received: from p54b7fbb0.dip0.t-ipconnect.de ([84.183.251.176]) by main.gmane.org with esmtp (Gmexim 0.1 (Debian)) id 1AlnuQ-0007hv-00 for ; Mon, 18 Jul 2016 20:36:48 +0200 Received: from Stromeko by p54b7fbb0.dip0.t-ipconnect.de with local (Gmexim 0.1 (Debian)) id 1AlnuQ-0007hv-00 for ; Mon, 18 Jul 2016 20:36:48 +0200 X-Injected-Via-Gmane: http://gmane.org/ To: bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org From: Achim Gratz Subject: Re: bug#24013: 25.0.95; Emacs 25.x uses up all memory and needs to be killed Date: Mon, 18 Jul 2016 20:36:28 +0200 Organization: Linux Private Site Lines: 20 Message-ID: <87eg6q23pv.fsf@Rainer.invalid> References: <8737n88mm2.fsf@Rainer.invalid> <83eg6s2vp9.fsf@gnu.org> <87inw4726c.fsf@Rainer.invalid> <83d1mc2s8o.fsf@gnu.org> <87a8hg6wre.fsf@Rainer.invalid> <837fck2nhj.fsf@gnu.org> <8760s46t9x.fsf@Rainer.invalid> <834m7o2k2m.fsf@gnu.org> <871t2s6qtm.fsf@Rainer.invalid> <87a8hgowpi.fsf@gmx.net> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain X-Complaints-To: usenet@ger.gmane.org X-Gmane-NNTP-Posting-Host: p54b7fbb0.dip0.t-ipconnect.de User-Agent: Gnus/5.13 (Gnus v5.13) Emacs/25.1.50 (gnu/linux) Cancel-Lock: sha1:nqzrZobN7klaS8H6VGJ7HxnSabc= X-detected-operating-system: by eggs.gnu.org: Genre and OS details not recognized. X-detected-operating-system: by eggs.gnu.org: GNU/Linux 2.6.x X-Received-From: 2001:4830:134:3::11 X-Spam-Score: -4.1 (----) X-Debbugs-Envelope-To: submit X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18 Precedence: list List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Sender: "Debbugs-submit" X-Spam-Score: -4.1 (----) Stephen Berman writes: > FWIW, I'm running Emacs under KDE4/Qt4/Plasma4 (openSUSE 13.2, with > Klipper running) and I could not reproduce the problems you reported > with the file you posted and the recipe you gave: no cursor vanishing, > no rampant memory allocation with Emacs 25.x, and no timeout with 24.5. I can't test KDE4 anymore and as I've said I never used klipper, but I seem to remember that klipper also had an option to consider all selections or just something that was copied or cut as something to deal with. Only in the case that klipper deals with selections the reported problem might occur. Regards, Achim. -- +<[Q+ Matrix-12 WAVE#46+305 Neuron microQkb Andromeda XTk Blofeld]>+ Factory and User Sound Singles for Waldorf Blofeld: http://Synth.Stromeko.net/Downloads.html#WaldorfSounds From debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Mon Jul 18 16:24:10 2016 Received: (at 24013) by debbugs.gnu.org; 18 Jul 2016 20:24:10 +0000 Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:56038 helo=debbugs.gnu.org) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1bPF5G-00085U-BI for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Mon, 18 Jul 2016 16:24:10 -0400 Received: from mout.gmx.net ([212.227.17.21]:56968) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1bPF5E-00085H-Os for 24013@debbugs.gnu.org; Mon, 18 Jul 2016 16:24:09 -0400 Received: from rosalinde ([89.245.125.98]) by mail.gmx.com (mrgmx103) with ESMTPSA (Nemesis) id 0MYOCL-1btmca3129-00V91z; Mon, 18 Jul 2016 22:24:01 +0200 From: Stephen Berman To: Achim Gratz Subject: Re: bug#24013: 25.0.95; Emacs 25.x uses up all memory and needs to be killed References: <8737n88mm2.fsf@Rainer.invalid> <83eg6s2vp9.fsf@gnu.org> <87inw4726c.fsf@Rainer.invalid> <83d1mc2s8o.fsf@gnu.org> <87a8hg6wre.fsf@Rainer.invalid> <837fck2nhj.fsf@gnu.org> <8760s46t9x.fsf@Rainer.invalid> <834m7o2k2m.fsf@gnu.org> <871t2s6qtm.fsf@Rainer.invalid> <87a8hgowpi.fsf@gmx.net> <87eg6q23pv.fsf@Rainer.invalid> Date: Mon, 18 Jul 2016 22:23:59 +0200 In-Reply-To: <87eg6q23pv.fsf@Rainer.invalid> (Achim Gratz's message of "Mon, 18 Jul 2016 20:36:28 +0200") Message-ID: <8760s28zkw.fsf@gmx.net> User-Agent: Gnus/5.13 (Gnus v5.13) Emacs/25.1.50 (gnu/linux) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain X-Provags-ID: V03:K0:bOrhkyVX+fjGhjxI9HzM9TISOAyDDCnHrmsnHfO5p8xgUM86tf+ 51VvhY+OWaYhIkO60XABhOZeCIAIHAJbY3UzHv5PPb7SgGM00/88OJ0wefGUwaRcv+kAopf 0zL6uVnxZj/izcTSiT91RdYqTmkiFUB0ZzTswOHCOBKYHGpKJf8qM6dr/tCT9XUgbHT0Zxx WXGIRhoY98u0nSFrfN3Dg== X-UI-Out-Filterresults: notjunk:1;V01:K0:kX9D4/Yax2Q=:7j8sa/r2NRdzXzy6sKmrTQ Y6uI/PIp+ZK6fgO+eV3+eOuHkNG+qWJjWB4VkeHF4skhS3UF6WD3pM333w6BgzkSFmiCSE23P QKB7PtU16CKBOWQLYVvVmuZtOYffqSlB+DEpL/6JO2hZDmOTwsHP0Pl1aT+ULWx61RCuVIeTI Nlkik49wTMQ/JMoAt8YFe+hNp8XH5wQg9FJPvAXXcTPQHmcHQjUIyaKlbw8T5PQ5LUWA5X1zw OYsJbA4OAhRCTAX8Lo8O4bp9REDQypNqTzSz5Jyva2b44mpfhc8cg9wmu7X9DV584v2x/dKQm +VO9AZBAcFI3MfRei3FmaZbVeUb7X2ny/UUxk64NEClW7U/WL6zdjug5+PdyiPnkU3CekAnWJ FVZmFSl8yLzi72HldAyTMb4impIl7mHXyU4pw4xZxY3EyYemdoDNubP0J6QC2tmTqAMlX6faY PpoanH2RgRCE2gtsi2sq7/zjNtXQNyeun0hxvhw2wlAQzxli/3g5Ow4fX26T6NqLLdrW9slYM W/f1QzFrmnWd9zx+yYuGYOydmW4F1SOfxrguBFr8vPsXrUz1AWScR820YUIplHUKQN8oVfDp7 oRqYiwKOKb+WjEEr2N1oyhFBru07guoh6kH6ixiMolLPqAXC+8FQ9KvMRwExefWnXeTtba16D jYFbH+QkRmtTQibvA4cbm8rsFQ4wTQiZyhHgakVzC16O004kz9vVuAZLkNmGZk5cfgC5WEQz2 gskMtZj8fdhbQiRMQVXwnvwp026Xf7Z7uOpyvMUxT9pEcl+R4RffOGDEZsa2NNnYiIiJ389ZP DfcI9Go X-Spam-Score: -2.0 (--) X-Debbugs-Envelope-To: 24013 Cc: 24013@debbugs.gnu.org X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18 Precedence: list List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Sender: "Debbugs-submit" X-Spam-Score: -2.0 (--) On Mon, 18 Jul 2016 20:36:28 +0200 Achim Gratz wrote: > Stephen Berman writes: >> FWIW, I'm running Emacs under KDE4/Qt4/Plasma4 (openSUSE 13.2, with >> Klipper running) and I could not reproduce the problems you reported >> with the file you posted and the recipe you gave: no cursor vanishing, >> no rampant memory allocation with Emacs 25.x, and no timeout with 24.5. > > I can't test KDE4 anymore and as I've said I never used klipper, but I > seem to remember that klipper also had an option to consider all > selections or just something that was copied or cut as something to deal > with. Only in the case that klipper deals with selections the reported > problem might occur. The Klipper General Configuration dialog has these options in the section "Selection and Clipboard": Ignore selection * Text selection only Synchronize contents of the clipboard and the selection Only the second one is checked (*) in my configuration. Are you suggesting to check the third one as well, or instead, or something else? Steve Berman From debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Mon Jul 18 16:47:48 2016 Received: (at submit) by debbugs.gnu.org; 18 Jul 2016 20:47:48 +0000 Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:56046 helo=debbugs.gnu.org) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1bPFS7-0000EB-S9 for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Mon, 18 Jul 2016 16:47:48 -0400 Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([208.118.235.92]:53164) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1bPFS6-0000Dy-Lf for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Mon, 18 Jul 2016 16:47:47 -0400 Received: from Debian-exim by eggs.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1bPFS0-0007iF-8o for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Mon, 18 Jul 2016 16:47:41 -0400 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.3.2 (2011-06-06) on eggs.gnu.org X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=0.8 required=5.0 tests=BAYES_50 autolearn=disabled version=3.3.2 Received: from lists.gnu.org ([2001:4830:134:3::11]:43728) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1bPFS0-0007iA-68 for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Mon, 18 Jul 2016 16:47:40 -0400 Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([2001:4830:134:3::10]:44130) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1bPFRy-0008ME-O3 for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Mon, 18 Jul 2016 16:47:39 -0400 Received: from Debian-exim by eggs.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1bPFRu-0007hT-FC for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Mon, 18 Jul 2016 16:47:37 -0400 Received: from plane.gmane.org ([80.91.229.3]:59129) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1bPFRu-0007hO-7j for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Mon, 18 Jul 2016 16:47:34 -0400 Received: from list by plane.gmane.org with local (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1bPFRs-0007zw-Qf for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Mon, 18 Jul 2016 22:47:32 +0200 Received: from p54b7fbb0.dip0.t-ipconnect.de ([84.183.251.176]) by main.gmane.org with esmtp (Gmexim 0.1 (Debian)) id 1AlnuQ-0007hv-00 for ; Mon, 18 Jul 2016 22:47:32 +0200 Received: from Stromeko by p54b7fbb0.dip0.t-ipconnect.de with local (Gmexim 0.1 (Debian)) id 1AlnuQ-0007hv-00 for ; Mon, 18 Jul 2016 22:47:32 +0200 X-Injected-Via-Gmane: http://gmane.org/ To: bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org From: Achim Gratz Subject: Re: bug#24013: 25.0.95; Emacs 25.x uses up all memory and needs to be killed Date: Mon, 18 Jul 2016 22:47:26 +0200 Organization: Linux Private Site Lines: 21 Message-ID: <87poqazna9.fsf@Rainer.invalid> References: <8737n88mm2.fsf@Rainer.invalid> <83eg6s2vp9.fsf@gnu.org> <87inw4726c.fsf@Rainer.invalid> <83d1mc2s8o.fsf@gnu.org> <87a8hg6wre.fsf@Rainer.invalid> <837fck2nhj.fsf@gnu.org> <8760s46t9x.fsf@Rainer.invalid> <834m7o2k2m.fsf@gnu.org> <871t2s6qtm.fsf@Rainer.invalid> <87a8hgowpi.fsf@gmx.net> <87eg6q23pv.fsf@Rainer.invalid> <8760s28zkw.fsf@gmx.net> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain X-Complaints-To: usenet@ger.gmane.org X-Gmane-NNTP-Posting-Host: p54b7fbb0.dip0.t-ipconnect.de User-Agent: Gnus/5.13 (Gnus v5.13) Emacs/25.1.50 (gnu/linux) Cancel-Lock: sha1:7oJBqMJtvhZ4A4FvNPSqSW41qlA= X-detected-operating-system: by eggs.gnu.org: Genre and OS details not recognized. X-detected-operating-system: by eggs.gnu.org: GNU/Linux 2.6.x X-Received-From: 2001:4830:134:3::11 X-Spam-Score: -4.1 (----) X-Debbugs-Envelope-To: submit X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18 Precedence: list List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Sender: "Debbugs-submit" X-Spam-Score: -4.1 (----) Stephen Berman writes: > The Klipper General Configuration dialog has these options in the > section "Selection and Clipboard": > Ignore selection > * Text selection only > Synchronize contents of the clipboard and the selection > Only the second one is checked (*) in my configuration. Are you > suggesting to check the third one as well, or instead, or something > else? No, that's the setting I've had the problems with. So it seems that it's confined to Qt5 or Plasma5 or something even more specific. Regards, Achim. -- +<[Q+ Matrix-12 WAVE#46+305 Neuron microQkb Andromeda XTk Blofeld]>+ Factory and User Sound Singles for Waldorf Q+, Q and microQ: http://Synth.Stromeko.net/Downloads.html#WaldorfSounds From debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Wed Jul 20 14:15:41 2016 Received: (at submit) by debbugs.gnu.org; 20 Jul 2016 18:15:41 +0000 Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:58903 helo=debbugs.gnu.org) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1bPw21-0008WJ-Ey for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Wed, 20 Jul 2016 14:15:41 -0400 Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([208.118.235.92]:34662) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1bPw1z-0008W5-Pi for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Wed, 20 Jul 2016 14:15:40 -0400 Received: from Debian-exim by eggs.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1bPw1t-0005UI-7U for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Wed, 20 Jul 2016 14:15:34 -0400 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.3.2 (2011-06-06) on eggs.gnu.org X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=0.8 required=5.0 tests=BAYES_50 autolearn=disabled version=3.3.2 Received: from lists.gnu.org ([2001:4830:134:3::11]:51675) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1bPw1t-0005UB-3Q for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Wed, 20 Jul 2016 14:15:33 -0400 Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([2001:4830:134:3::10]:53844) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1bPw1q-0004db-Lh for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Wed, 20 Jul 2016 14:15:31 -0400 Received: from Debian-exim by eggs.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1bPw1m-0005SC-E1 for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Wed, 20 Jul 2016 14:15:29 -0400 Received: from plane.gmane.org ([80.91.229.3]:60979) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1bPw1m-0005S4-6l for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Wed, 20 Jul 2016 14:15:26 -0400 Received: from list by plane.gmane.org with local (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1bPw1h-0005rt-Lf for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Wed, 20 Jul 2016 20:15:21 +0200 Received: from p54b7fbb0.dip0.t-ipconnect.de ([84.183.251.176]) by main.gmane.org with esmtp (Gmexim 0.1 (Debian)) id 1AlnuQ-0007hv-00 for ; Wed, 20 Jul 2016 20:15:21 +0200 Received: from Stromeko by p54b7fbb0.dip0.t-ipconnect.de with local (Gmexim 0.1 (Debian)) id 1AlnuQ-0007hv-00 for ; Wed, 20 Jul 2016 20:15:21 +0200 X-Injected-Via-Gmane: http://gmane.org/ To: bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org From: Achim Gratz Subject: Re: bug#24013: 25.0.95; Emacs 25.x uses up all memory and needs to be killed Date: Wed, 20 Jul 2016 20:15:12 +0200 Organization: Linux Private Site Lines: 52 Message-ID: <87eg6op45r.fsf@Rainer.invalid> References: <8737n88mm2.fsf@Rainer.invalid> <83eg6s2vp9.fsf@gnu.org> <87inw4726c.fsf@Rainer.invalid> <83d1mc2s8o.fsf@gnu.org> <87a8hg6wre.fsf@Rainer.invalid> <837fck2nhj.fsf@gnu.org> <8760s46t9x.fsf@Rainer.invalid> <834m7o2k2m.fsf@gnu.org> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain X-Complaints-To: usenet@ger.gmane.org X-Gmane-NNTP-Posting-Host: p54b7fbb0.dip0.t-ipconnect.de User-Agent: Gnus/5.13 (Gnus v5.13) Emacs/25.1.50 (gnu/linux) Cancel-Lock: sha1:HBMQnbjiH9Tutx2k5jQQV5oGS94= X-detected-operating-system: by eggs.gnu.org: Genre and OS details not recognized. X-detected-operating-system: by eggs.gnu.org: GNU/Linux 2.6.x X-Received-From: 2001:4830:134:3::11 X-Spam-Score: -4.1 (----) X-Debbugs-Envelope-To: submit X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18 Precedence: list List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Sender: "Debbugs-submit" X-Spam-Score: -4.1 (----) Eli Zaretskii writes: > I see. Frankly, I feel a bit uneasy that Emacs somehow runs out of > memory in any scenario, but other than that, would you consider > describing this solution in PROBLEMS as good enough to go ahead with > releasing Emacs 25.1? Perhaps even closing this bug? Here's my attempt at getting something into PROBLEMS. --8<---------------cut here---------------start------------->8--- diff --git a/etc/PROBLEMS b/etc/PROBLEMS index 2b3becf..b86b2b6 100644 --- a/etc/PROBLEMS +++ b/etc/PROBLEMS @@ -1070,6 +1070,28 @@ while, Emacs may print a message: A workaround is to not use 'klipper'. Upgrading 'klipper' to the one coming with KDE 3.3 or later also solves the problem. +*** KDE / Plasma 5: Emacs exhausts memory and needs to be killed + +This problem occurs when large selections contain mixed line endings +(i.e the buffer has LF line endings, but in some parts CRLF is used). +The source of the problem is currently under investigation, Emacs +versions up to 24.5 just hang for a few seconds and then return with +the message " Timed out waiting for property-notify event" as +described in the previous note. As a workaround, go to the settings +dialog for the Clipboard widget and select the option "Ignore +Selection". + +Note: Plasma 5 has replaced the separate klipper process from earlier +KDE versions with functionality directly integrated into plasmashell, +so even if you've previously did not use klipper this will affect you. +Also, all configuration you might have done to klipper is not used by +the new Clipboard widget / plasmoid since it uses it's own settings. +You can hide the Clipboard widget by removing it's entry from the +system tray settings "Extra Items", but it's not clear if the +underlying functionality in plasmashell gets fully disabled as well. +AT least a restart of plasmashell is required for the clipboard +history to be cleared. + *** CDE: Frames may cover dialogs they created when using CDE. This can happen if you have "Allow Primary Windows On Top" enabled which --8<---------------cut here---------------end--------------->8--- Regards, Achim. -- +<[Q+ Matrix-12 WAVE#46+305 Neuron microQkb Andromeda XTk Blofeld]>+ SD adaptations for Waldorf Q V3.00R3 and Q+ V3.54R2: http://Synth.Stromeko.net/Downloads.html#WaldorfSDada From debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Thu Jul 21 11:10:14 2016 Received: (at 24013) by debbugs.gnu.org; 21 Jul 2016 15:10:15 +0000 Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:60577 helo=debbugs.gnu.org) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1bQFc6-0001LS-NG for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Thu, 21 Jul 2016 11:10:14 -0400 Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([208.118.235.92]:59513) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1bQFc5-0001LC-Gg for 24013@debbugs.gnu.org; Thu, 21 Jul 2016 11:10:13 -0400 Received: from Debian-exim by eggs.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1bQFbu-00059g-Qp for 24013@debbugs.gnu.org; Thu, 21 Jul 2016 11:10:08 -0400 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.3.2 (2011-06-06) on eggs.gnu.org X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-1.3 required=5.0 tests=BAYES_40,RP_MATCHES_RCVD autolearn=disabled version=3.3.2 Received: from fencepost.gnu.org ([2001:4830:134:3::e]:49919) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1bQFbu-00059a-Nx; Thu, 21 Jul 2016 11:10:02 -0400 Received: from 84.94.185.246.cable.012.net.il ([84.94.185.246]:4966 helo=home-c4e4a596f7) by fencepost.gnu.org with esmtpsa (TLS1.2:RSA_AES_128_CBC_SHA1:128) (Exim 4.82) (envelope-from ) id 1bQFbt-0002vU-Mk; Thu, 21 Jul 2016 11:10:02 -0400 Date: Thu, 21 Jul 2016 18:10:08 +0300 Message-Id: <83twfjxc1b.fsf@gnu.org> From: Eli Zaretskii To: Achim Gratz In-reply-to: <87eg6op45r.fsf@Rainer.invalid> (message from Achim Gratz on Wed, 20 Jul 2016 20:15:12 +0200) Subject: Re: bug#24013: 25.0.95; Emacs 25.x uses up all memory and needs to be killed References: <8737n88mm2.fsf@Rainer.invalid> <83eg6s2vp9.fsf@gnu.org> <87inw4726c.fsf@Rainer.invalid> <83d1mc2s8o.fsf@gnu.org> <87a8hg6wre.fsf@Rainer.invalid> <837fck2nhj.fsf@gnu.org> <8760s46t9x.fsf@Rainer.invalid> <834m7o2k2m.fsf@gnu.org> <87eg6op45r.fsf@Rainer.invalid> X-detected-operating-system: by eggs.gnu.org: GNU/Linux 2.2.x-3.x [generic] X-Received-From: 2001:4830:134:3::e X-Spam-Score: -6.3 (------) X-Debbugs-Envelope-To: 24013 Cc: 24013@debbugs.gnu.org X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18 Precedence: list List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Reply-To: Eli Zaretskii Errors-To: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Sender: "Debbugs-submit" X-Spam-Score: -6.3 (------) > From: Achim Gratz > Date: Wed, 20 Jul 2016 20:15:12 +0200 > > Here's my attempt at getting something into PROBLEMS. Perfect, thanks. I've pushed in your name after fixing a couple of typos. 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Content analysis details: (-2.9 points, 5.0 required) pts rule name description ---- ---------------------- -------------------------------------------------- -1.0 ALL_TRUSTED Passed through trusted hosts only via SMTP -1.9 BAYES_00 BODY: Bayes spam probability is 0 to 1% [score: 0.0000] X-Spam-Score: -2.3 (--) X-Debbugs-Envelope-To: 24013 Cc: 24013@debbugs.gnu.org, 28146@debbugs.gnu.org X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18 Precedence: list List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Sender: "Debbugs-submit" X-Spam-Score: -3.3 (---) Achim Gratz writes: > +*** KDE / Plasma 5: Emacs exhausts memory and needs to be killed This was almost five years ago, and I can't recall seeing any recent bug reports about this (and I can't reproduce it myself, but I'm not using KDE). Is this problem still an issue in more recent versions of KDE/Plasma/Emacs? -- (domestic pets only, the antidote for overdose, milk.) bloggy blog: http://lars.ingebrigtsen.no From debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Mon Jul 05 09:42:09 2021 Received: (at control) by debbugs.gnu.org; 5 Jul 2021 13:42:09 +0000 Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:44508 helo=debbugs.gnu.org) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1m0OrQ-0006e7-Vj for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Mon, 05 Jul 2021 09:42:09 -0400 Received: from quimby.gnus.org ([95.216.78.240]:57640) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1m0OrP-0006dM-2o for control@debbugs.gnu.org; Mon, 05 Jul 2021 09:42:07 -0400 DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; q=dns/txt; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gnus.org; s=20200322; h=Subject:From:To:Message-Id:Date:Sender:Reply-To:Cc: MIME-Version:Content-Type:Content-Transfer-Encoding:Content-ID: Content-Description:Resent-Date:Resent-From:Resent-Sender:Resent-To:Resent-Cc :Resent-Message-ID:In-Reply-To:References:List-Id:List-Help:List-Unsubscribe: List-Subscribe:List-Post:List-Owner:List-Archive; bh=tSptOKfTLXazONv43z+mfiwDeul1sLyiPR6lRMnTV9Q=; b=IeRyayW0/clmMW/U+cAQVCmoBs VGYM+vjcRgaXVNy4tEM6duhxn+Tro0j5AM/qaF3aaamL4+WEOI6s0GIGYDpjQIu6q3B8ePIDtFmug Fr/kt9Bgqdk/LIOlUmPlkPtK+EHpnlE5Oa733I05VeLXASJBOdk4uQKhwWe2Milso780=; Received: from cm-84.212.220.105.getinternet.no ([84.212.220.105] helo=elva) by quimby.gnus.org with esmtpsa (TLS1.3:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.92) (envelope-from ) id 1m0OrH-0004pC-Ef for control@debbugs.gnu.org; Mon, 05 Jul 2021 15:42:01 +0200 Date: Mon, 05 Jul 2021 15:41:59 +0200 Message-Id: <87pmvwyj14.fsf@gnus.org> To: control@debbugs.gnu.org From: Lars Ingebrigtsen Subject: control message for bug #28146 X-Spam-Report: Spam detection software, running on the system "quimby.gnus.org", has NOT identified this incoming email as spam. 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Content preview: tags 28146 + moreinfo quit Content analysis details: (-2.9 points, 5.0 required) pts rule name description ---- ---------------------- -------------------------------------------------- -1.0 ALL_TRUSTED Passed through trusted hosts only via SMTP -1.9 BAYES_00 BODY: Bayes spam probability is 0 to 1% [score: 0.0000] X-Spam-Score: -2.3 (--) X-Debbugs-Envelope-To: control X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18 Precedence: list List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Sender: "Debbugs-submit" X-Spam-Score: -3.3 (---) tags 28146 + moreinfo quit From debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Wed Aug 04 07:29:17 2021 Received: (at 24013) by debbugs.gnu.org; 4 Aug 2021 11:29:18 +0000 Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:42922 helo=debbugs.gnu.org) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1mBF5J-0005le-Nz for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Wed, 04 Aug 2021 07:29:17 -0400 Received: from quimby.gnus.org ([95.216.78.240]:39718) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1mBF5H-0005lJ-Ty; Wed, 04 Aug 2021 07:29:16 -0400 DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; q=dns/txt; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gnus.org; s=20200322; h=Content-Type:MIME-Version:Message-ID:In-Reply-To:Date: References:Subject:Cc:To:From:Sender:Reply-To:Content-Transfer-Encoding: Content-ID:Content-Description:Resent-Date:Resent-From:Resent-Sender: Resent-To:Resent-Cc:Resent-Message-ID:List-Id:List-Help:List-Unsubscribe: List-Subscribe:List-Post:List-Owner:List-Archive; bh=KH6T8gTwC7TX1t5/9Hj67qlc3wJiY76BR58FoaZheCM=; b=K2Z8HYLul1iJKsl/RSazDUe6+s nMs++Yh+uBIcmR0iymxg6TfOMXNzwoa41uxLU7dL1kcboTqn4kldCQn63ODvMGsGhaf4u3f3wdEMq i5ZuDuQaz2eckoZo0WxH6zz3Wa6+CPgxLCGQoxKlRtUrULh3TdGIpgyaGN/s+mVQrEkU=; Received: from [84.212.220.105] (helo=elva) by quimby.gnus.org with esmtpsa (TLS1.3:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.92) (envelope-from ) id 1mBF59-00072L-9O; Wed, 04 Aug 2021 13:29:09 +0200 From: Lars Ingebrigtsen To: Achim Gratz Subject: Re: bug#24013: 25.0.95; [KDE/Plasma 5] Emacs 25.x uses up all memory and needs to be killed References: <8737n88mm2.fsf@Rainer.invalid> <83eg6s2vp9.fsf@gnu.org> <87inw4726c.fsf@Rainer.invalid> <83d1mc2s8o.fsf@gnu.org> <87a8hg6wre.fsf@Rainer.invalid> <837fck2nhj.fsf@gnu.org> <8760s46t9x.fsf@Rainer.invalid> <834m7o2k2m.fsf@gnu.org> <87eg6op45r.fsf@Rainer.invalid> <87r1gcyj1a.fsf_-_@gnus.org> Date: Wed, 04 Aug 2021 13:29:06 +0200 In-Reply-To: <87r1gcyj1a.fsf_-_@gnus.org> (Lars Ingebrigtsen's message of "Mon, 05 Jul 2021 15:41:53 +0200") Message-ID: <874kc5la7x.fsf_-_@gnus.org> User-Agent: Gnus/5.13 (Gnus v5.13) Emacs/28.0.50 (gnu/linux) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain X-Spam-Report: Spam detection software, running on the system "quimby.gnus.org", has NOT identified this incoming email as spam. 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Content preview: Lars Ingebrigtsen writes: > Achim Gratz writes: > >> +*** KDE / Plasma 5: Emacs exhausts memory and needs to be killed > > This was almost five years ago, and I can't recall seeing any recent bug > reports [...] Content analysis details: (-2.9 points, 5.0 required) pts rule name description ---- ---------------------- -------------------------------------------------- -1.0 ALL_TRUSTED Passed through trusted hosts only via SMTP -1.9 BAYES_00 BODY: Bayes spam probability is 0 to 1% [score: 0.0000] X-Spam-Score: -2.3 (--) X-Debbugs-Envelope-To: 24013 Cc: 24013@debbugs.gnu.org, 28146@debbugs.gnu.org X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18 Precedence: list List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Sender: "Debbugs-submit" X-Spam-Score: -3.3 (---) Lars Ingebrigtsen writes: > Achim Gratz writes: > >> +*** KDE / Plasma 5: Emacs exhausts memory and needs to be killed > > This was almost five years ago, and I can't recall seeing any recent bug > reports about this (and I can't reproduce it myself, but I'm not using > KDE). > > Is this problem still an issue in more recent versions of > KDE/Plasma/Emacs? More information was requested, but no response was given within a month, so I'm closing this bug report. If the problem still exists, please respond to this email and we'll reopen the bug report. -- (domestic pets only, the antidote for overdose, milk.) bloggy blog: http://lars.ingebrigtsen.no From debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Wed Aug 04 07:29:22 2021 Received: (at control) by debbugs.gnu.org; 4 Aug 2021 11:29:22 +0000 Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:42925 helo=debbugs.gnu.org) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1mBF5N-0005m1-V9 for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Wed, 04 Aug 2021 07:29:22 -0400 Received: from quimby.gnus.org ([95.216.78.240]:39732) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1mBF5N-0005lP-4J for control@debbugs.gnu.org; Wed, 04 Aug 2021 07:29:21 -0400 DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; q=dns/txt; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gnus.org; s=20200322; h=Subject:From:To:Message-Id:Date:Sender:Reply-To:Cc: MIME-Version:Content-Type:Content-Transfer-Encoding:Content-ID: Content-Description:Resent-Date:Resent-From:Resent-Sender:Resent-To:Resent-Cc :Resent-Message-ID:In-Reply-To:References:List-Id:List-Help:List-Unsubscribe: List-Subscribe:List-Post:List-Owner:List-Archive; bh=siAzRijSA4vtLMhQcWWB6O4WEVTQbS4g/B6gsZ3HOm4=; b=CGtMwXnYmrM21pftCJfz8KZOQM EFN96U9T4Oa7nbDsWfGTVUVsOrnoj681BZRIogf4hymsDnUJIIBY8vSzD9Klpunc75u+L8Rr11X1a k19HxYkw5pUgXioz2h9hDy3nGX7a63Uca7igKCchgQlRoGVEYGGOzAxJctHAHhqTnGh4=; Received: from [84.212.220.105] (helo=elva) by quimby.gnus.org with esmtpsa (TLS1.3:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.92) (envelope-from ) id 1mBF5F-00072S-9y for control@debbugs.gnu.org; Wed, 04 Aug 2021 13:29:15 +0200 Date: Wed, 04 Aug 2021 13:29:12 +0200 Message-Id: <8735rpla7r.fsf@gnus.org> To: control@debbugs.gnu.org From: Lars Ingebrigtsen Subject: control message for bug #24013 X-Spam-Report: Spam detection software, running on the system "quimby.gnus.org", has NOT identified this incoming email as spam. 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