From unknown Sun Aug 10 16:49:38 2025 Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: MIME-tools 5.509 (Entity 5.509) Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 From: bug#23966 <23966@debbugs.gnu.org> To: bug#23966 <23966@debbugs.gnu.org> Subject: Status: 25.1.50; Frame resizing due to tool bar + Gnus Reply-To: bug#23966 <23966@debbugs.gnu.org> Date: Sun, 10 Aug 2025 23:49:38 +0000 retitle 23966 25.1.50; Frame resizing due to tool bar + Gnus reassign 23966 emacs submitter 23966 Stephen Berman severity 23966 normal thanks From debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Wed Jul 13 08:16:54 2016 Received: (at submit) by debbugs.gnu.org; 13 Jul 2016 12:16:54 +0000 Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:49137 helo=debbugs.gnu.org) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1bNJ5y-0008B4-Ak for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Wed, 13 Jul 2016 08:16:54 -0400 Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([208.118.235.92]:42663) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1bNJ5w-0008As-I4 for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Wed, 13 Jul 2016 08:16:52 -0400 Received: from Debian-exim by eggs.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1bNJ5q-0003rh-3I for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Wed, 13 Jul 2016 08:16:47 -0400 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.3.2 (2011-06-06) on eggs.gnu.org X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=0.8 required=5.0 tests=BAYES_50,FREEMAIL_FROM autolearn=disabled version=3.3.2 Received: from lists.gnu.org ([2001:4830:134:3::11]:44411) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1bNJ5q-0003rU-04 for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Wed, 13 Jul 2016 08:16:46 -0400 Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([2001:4830:134:3::10]:33625) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1bNJ5n-0007Lo-IO for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Wed, 13 Jul 2016 08:16:44 -0400 Received: from Debian-exim by eggs.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1bNJ5h-0003qX-Gv for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Wed, 13 Jul 2016 08:16:41 -0400 Received: from mout.gmx.net ([212.227.17.22]:60871) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1bNJ5h-0003qJ-6o for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Wed, 13 Jul 2016 08:16:37 -0400 Received: from rosalinde ([89.245.86.246]) by mail.gmx.com (mrgmx102) with ESMTPSA (Nemesis) id 0MIyCj-1bPmzz3RqT-002VUd for ; Wed, 13 Jul 2016 14:16:35 +0200 From: Stephen Berman To: bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org Subject: 25.1.50; Frame resizing due to tool bar + Gnus Date: Wed, 13 Jul 2016 14:16:33 +0200 Message-ID: <87vb09u40u.fsf@gmx.net> User-Agent: Gnus/5.13 (Gnus v5.13) Emacs/25.1.50 (gnu/linux) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain X-Provags-ID: V03:K0:z7N1FR9SK3ZHbrNb0DF1BpmP1IL/AX7fvH1QHncFKA9S3LK1i1S jp82bju8HZMpYEJNDI7qSteBXEflfJoNmbu5haVU8nFDVdGaxgTJ3J/EWdMp6UyspDu9BDF e0DkOuHsz53uw543OQ54wLSdSb+n6ypbhiOOojqfvwWmM69qZdKHnX81b7FBZIULlWPRWuO 85vkPP+H7aBfBY4WJ1yhw== X-UI-Out-Filterresults: notjunk:1;V01:K0:VJfn7UsTBw8=:UyRPgw+dOf2msGeVUO+ZEx rm3UPF2DEqTyFKr7CR1nCtJVFlq53uB95TGxdYITEoT4EuCIxzktAijJDJi+nMeTaVaA7smSS IPPzce1NkyCjbhNDtiqU/lYs+Hl5+T/9RcVcSO+fjZdEWePjJaJCE9+LEp/YRc49TAV0ed6vo ZMtj0Mpu8BVaS6WCCBwIIln0mxoiXrJGu5zYXf2orl/SDmmjitvz3YeRx+4taqJ9Sf8/feCKf h7DhTR8iIs9pOQmqkdC+CxS54at89QJUUY4R2UJXnAly9l92nygqIBoqheZAfXcBXf6snDOyC 6mfaplW1nmDJKKjDgkaV7b6p315K+yL64GKfc83jAYuZT2YQgahUNXMhif2K+EzdyMYyjdoo6 oboM5+psIb2gUqwKFFP8pIfL3N4dVXrilMYKdQmfsE9wlCwg4TpICxOiJ9MVYD1disS0pKvqS Vy5ufJW5CMnMwd4Q1o134TaiFcp7eRNmjVcvB8Fn7PvUZp6gcBsz2sQFZGk+VjxTOgO2qztOC s0SbwHj7nRZ5vCHVXdPnoU7kX9jXmW3krqkSULzvHEBFIELlpc/EfLOtDTvFx7qbosocxFY4Y lc1P1FWNFr8yG+fsmseZpcf/13ri9nFZOD6TMcOQxYm14R8gkkeKdsLcPhbbxrnAZHTMG4vSn 4XqECbh7Y9TeQhdh09tnZwgJGuTc5v1sVdj/CPiK6SmGjucnYFChsb/NUVGWuJcOFt5HqC1Tu TkMZyQKFx02bKfFyvm1kf+FfI60mEO2sE5Bi4tEwL/h4uutO587GQ5VIVp19uC9bt8G9YGcf/ gZSJ2vh X-detected-operating-system: by eggs.gnu.org: GNU/Linux 2.2.x-3.x [generic] X-detected-operating-system: by eggs.gnu.org: GNU/Linux 2.6.x X-Received-From: 2001:4830:134:3::11 X-Spam-Score: -4.1 (----) X-Debbugs-Envelope-To: submit X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18 Precedence: list List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Sender: "Debbugs-submit" X-Spam-Score: -4.1 (----) When I disable the tool bar before entering the Gnus Summary buffer and then re-enable it while in that buffer, it appears as an 8-pixel high empty strip below the menu bar. When I switch to another buffer, the tool bar is displayed normally but the frame height increases by two lines, and when I switch back to the Gnus Summary buffer the tool bar again appears as an empty strip and the frame height stays at the new height; this pattern can be repeated and each time the frame height increases. I see the same thing when the tool bar is displayed at the bottom of the frame; if it is displayed on the left or right side of the frame, the frame width increases instead of the height. I see this in builds from emacs-25 and master, as well as in 24.5, all 64-bit GNU/Linux, GTK+ Version 3.14.15 (not built --with-cairo). In the 24.5 build, when switching back to the Gnus Summary buffer, the console displays a message like this: (emacs:4487): Gtk-WARNING **: GtkToolbar 0x313ca90 reported min size 42 and natural size 8 in get_preferred_width(); natural size must be >= min size There is no such message with the emacs-25 or master builds. (In the latter two builds, the initial frame height is 36 and increases to 38; in the 24.5 build, the initial height is 35 and increases to 37.) I haven't seen this issue with any other buffer than the Gnus Summary buffer. Moreover, if I disable the tool bar only after entering the Gnus Summary buffer and then re-enable it there, the tool bar is displayed in that buffer normally and there is no resizing after switching away and back. To reproduce, start emacs with -Q and evaluate the following sexp in *scratch*: (let ((testfile "~/tool-bar-Gnus-frame-bug")) (with-temp-file testfile (insert "From nobody Wed Jul 13 13:55:54 CEST 2016 To: stephen.berman@gmx.net Subject: bug test message From: Stephen Berman Date: Wed Jul 13 13:55:54 CEST 2016 Message-ID: <87twg9y16a.fsf@gmx.net> User-Agent: Gnus/5.13 (Gnus v5.13) Emacs/25.1.50 (gnu/linux) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Lines: 1 test ")) (message "Emacs started; frame height: %d" (frame-height)) (require 'gnus) (let ((gnus-select-method '(nnnil ""))) (message "Gnus started; frame height: %d" (frame-height)) (gnus-1) (gnus-group-make-doc-group testfile 'mbox) (tool-bar-mode -1) (message "Tool bar disabled; frame height: %d" (frame-height)) (sit-for 1) (gnus-group-select-group) (message "Entered Summary buffer; frame height: %d" (frame-height)) (sit-for 1) ;; Uncommenting these three lines and commenting out the same three ;; lines above results in a normal tool bar and no resizing. ;; (tool-bar-mode -1) ;; (message "Tool bar disabled; frame height: %d" (frame-height)) ;; (sit-for 1) (tool-bar-mode 1) (message "Tool bar enabled; frame height: %d" (frame-height)) (sit-for 2) (switch-to-buffer (other-buffer)) (message "Other buffer; frame height: %d" (frame-height)) (sit-for 1) (switch-to-buffer (other-buffer)) (message "Back to Summary buffer; frame height: %d" (frame-height))) (sit-for 1) ;; Suppress further messages and clean up in order to repeat the test ;; simply by evaluating this sexp. (let (message-log-max) (gnus-summary-exit-no-update t) (goto-char (point-min)) (gnus-group-kill-group) (let ((gnus-expert-user t)) (gnus-group-quit)) (delete-file testfile) (when (file-exists-p (gnus-dribble-file-name)) (delete-file (gnus-dribble-file-name)))) (switch-to-buffer "*Messages*")) From debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Wed Jul 13 13:35:03 2016 Received: (at 23966) by debbugs.gnu.org; 13 Jul 2016 17:35:03 +0000 Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:50098 helo=debbugs.gnu.org) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1bNO3r-0001A4-F8 for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Wed, 13 Jul 2016 13:35:03 -0400 Received: from mout.gmx.net ([212.227.17.22]:51989) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1bNO3p-00019Q-I1 for 23966@debbugs.gnu.org; Wed, 13 Jul 2016 13:35:01 -0400 Received: from [192.168.1.100] ([212.95.7.59]) by mail.gmx.com (mrgmx101) with ESMTPSA (Nemesis) id 0MZPer-1bgHqs2Sez-00LEug; Wed, 13 Jul 2016 19:34:55 +0200 Message-ID: <57867BB6.1020601@gmx.at> Date: Wed, 13 Jul 2016 19:34:46 +0200 From: martin rudalics MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Stephen Berman , 23966@debbugs.gnu.org Subject: Re: bug#23966: 25.1.50; Frame resizing due to tool bar + Gnus References: <87vb09u40u.fsf@gmx.net> In-Reply-To: <87vb09u40u.fsf@gmx.net> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Provags-ID: V03:K0:kPHs0t2rjWoJxJAN9c1VyyU9fDwULKyGO2lMkJb384vItb2Qnat izTbRhLKUziH8JZpE/fYhKNUQ0kvFbmMlOtHSYdqcKMwRrDKV8SQPsl3GgMOw1BfHAw41fJ raxEvFtEu8pZg97EHiqCQaeASMO7MnFUMJChCT9K029IfX99y4qnDLeV7ydw/luAzA1tpfi lEqy3O89WoQrlLKqP1FRg== X-UI-Out-Filterresults: notjunk:1;V01:K0:2YQRbo5/s4k=:C0bt4PrKykOde/2xktLQ+X Vk0CduOu61sYHg0q8ev8PVkd7P/zIVWlUL7R4axnxvFUwxxSONkxI/DGd2bcUvDNFNkcFVO7V HYR6+udcKTQQo7rJO5bp+1nhWkNlMApiSflncuk1dkBjkuzpdZRtfj2b5FgmplTjR732JTMlg c3+gGYj/YJs3nQeWg3pvdDuN91ynIWzXTsJAeUSj2SDOuTod8ERRp3IqLIJ7LkaU0CRDB/yd1 vKf9X5ExjUjAgFAoV6a44Xw0SabCpJO4pEeRDRWaTFE6H3c5kxb/NQLs2NqxLhkwsjlUNN4ng arS4zv7PjGxU1c/OHD/fQqTWYLt7GFyKismG/blrrQ66fxL0L9ZVVhlrlRK7lB2hDNqpNKlIH GPOv409gpkyk8QaGkgGkTc++aBix+LmtPgdOEXIM7iTQSBeZm5kPSrQkgXOft6PE0G5eVwiLs +xJg5kk4UxlrHSosCE2DDy1pJRPE6cda7DakgUpBAy3d2daHYNf5YHkhPRjEj45GnGDngkSTV mowNhOEN62EYl7In6ok2K/vuwVpHf9oLnDp9ZjG/J2/4FKbwEBQLG7AfAc4RaE1xGlW9TOp9G txD/sA/ZJIACUUuF4ltgm2d++2CiVAvwFws8YxuTgZfeXbFfkvpzY29YKqEXqGO18uSJ3l5MJ AEAXm5d2dzmmmOx1d+h4xtrkBdvKjLyCAb2XuqqGGUh1I+EC68qRjzoORNcQXNq+ZbTb4/fM2 Pdcg9bcVb8CzSUmRG8+VOlA+BD7etGHUBGR04NHS3XeVKdLqfrHdBE2n25Ptxr5XpfstR8YWy f+CHo9nXliJ3CnGJLqW06gYxfCBOQ== X-Spam-Score: -0.1 (/) X-Debbugs-Envelope-To: 23966 X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18 Precedence: list List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Sender: "Debbugs-submit" X-Spam-Score: -0.1 (/) > To reproduce, start emacs with -Q and evaluate the following sexp in > *scratch*: Here this gets me the following text written to *Messages*: Emacs started; frame height: 36 Gnus started; frame height: 36 Opening nnfolder server on archive...done No new newsgroups Checking new news... Reading active file via nnnil...done Checking new news...done No news is good news Opening nndoc server on /home/martin/tool-bar-Gnus-frame-bug...done Tool bar disabled; frame height: 36 Entered Summary buffer; frame height: 36 Tool bar enabled; frame height: 36 Other buffer; frame height: 36 Back to Summary buffer; frame height: 36 Tested with both release version and current master/trunk. With GTK version 3.4.2 (IIRC). Is this expected and/or what you get? In any case, the frame has the same height before and after executing this form. martin From debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Wed Jul 13 15:21:45 2016 Received: (at 23966) by debbugs.gnu.org; 13 Jul 2016 19:21:45 +0000 Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:50147 helo=debbugs.gnu.org) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1bNPj7-0003iE-DP for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Wed, 13 Jul 2016 15:21:45 -0400 Received: from mout.gmx.net ([212.227.15.18]:56096) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1bNPj6-0003hz-97 for 23966@debbugs.gnu.org; Wed, 13 Jul 2016 15:21:44 -0400 Received: from rosalinde ([89.245.86.246]) by mail.gmx.com (mrgmx002) with ESMTPSA (Nemesis) id 0LjIel-1aouWU2iat-00dXX1; Wed, 13 Jul 2016 21:21:37 +0200 From: Stephen Berman To: martin rudalics Subject: Re: bug#23966: 25.1.50; Frame resizing due to tool bar + Gnus References: <87vb09u40u.fsf@gmx.net> <57867BB6.1020601@gmx.at> Date: Wed, 13 Jul 2016 21:21:36 +0200 In-Reply-To: <57867BB6.1020601@gmx.at> (martin rudalics's message of "Wed, 13 Jul 2016 19:34:46 +0200") Message-ID: <87r3axtkcf.fsf@gmx.net> User-Agent: Gnus/5.13 (Gnus v5.13) Emacs/25.1.50 (gnu/linux) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain X-Provags-ID: V03:K0:EMPVKEuGrHqoAEXzIB35hcs946pQvPDnyGff4ViuZiWMFFS+sbe 2H5Ip9jT0uxTiQ0h5tofTZ0KjgB4HWf3YNOoik2WBnmaBLunh9P2pdc7gHAw+yX7jQ1uxdt aZ4GD7c+rSx2GMOsuc3lJf9KrqlhA48EMZjAluFMS/iK8jC2Ho+7g1QQM31D55IXjrfENyd wdJRkAllPRd7wfLbCCL+A== X-UI-Out-Filterresults: notjunk:1;V01:K0:TRJzxvGxphA=:WAAs0GgsD0O9+g/bbDkYoE 7dEJ4AIsdZnQMosK/VLw2oMZn4si/R6A1jWQq9Eumx90RghIztCh+UNARmM8p4f7AggIzEHt0 SnoGdt2HxxYDNg92MsGwpk3FR8n0wGMDhoK92yG8MAlxYks04HlYEntFiJRn9+I9enCL+9/De ynt/ut6Q1X7vP/ySg3g+QNbqzl9KPivC0a8QEzAtPJ66N9aoByNLLHTkNMD0EaKrabKL2voqE oZYKvDEoIlOcddrYavrFX2ONqidjWRLN3Cqssn1OC5jwaBubcAPTx+1nhtWskBu7KwiaNTyap 8v5au/mWhfweLjM06+H5TLXmAfZwJSFdm09oGvIyxX9YEMjJlcQIjfPACP4D4A9yIOT2Gj7Dq Zb2a4ozmGMiJsEVyV4Pm6znWrlbnY0ud9UYuMEeGIaWgKOfqyj8IGzePYyPRgIpnGWJAyToFE GzT+ChhGaYtQb5gZjMrY4FFWWHwU95uOTu4bMCW4nxkSvQqSwi37dlpw2WRo0WJbD3OGBWoEP 2vwvEAI50YJYkY45tNE8Z08KNjrEyO5+awqGKEcRJw1gDapvKDZYvCuSeAkzaN8wvA+XpQzRa fc6mAU9StiFoN9rCyHyPvA7Atx7jcCAO2URzk6WXRGlRaBfIlEpNPxYipNddc6gC1L4u7TJCG AZnkroZzgyczMS/Bn3lW7NLBTEKzlJX0e6FuK6l40Ic/CeRsyAKtdPDHTNAH+X83hhnPHO5do hd+H1KtOReEuIwqt448hZx4/KVNgLwra7d0MDfQL/hNRFQ6GVce3HPMnK1MNVh1C/9AdLUNF5 nZhjVL3 X-Spam-Score: -2.0 (--) X-Debbugs-Envelope-To: 23966 Cc: 23966@debbugs.gnu.org X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18 Precedence: list List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Sender: "Debbugs-submit" X-Spam-Score: -2.0 (--) On Wed, 13 Jul 2016 19:34:46 +0200 martin rudalics wrote: >> To reproduce, start emacs with -Q and evaluate the following sexp in >> *scratch*: > > Here this gets me the following text written to *Messages*: > > Emacs started; frame height: 36 > Gnus started; frame height: 36 > Opening nnfolder server on archive...done > No new newsgroups > Checking new news... > Reading active file via nnnil...done > Checking new news...done > No news is good news > Opening nndoc server on /home/martin/tool-bar-Gnus-frame-bug...done > Tool bar disabled; frame height: 36 > Entered Summary buffer; frame height: 36 > Tool bar enabled; frame height: 36 > Other buffer; frame height: 36 > Back to Summary buffer; frame height: 36 > > Tested with both release version and current master/trunk. With GTK > version 3.4.2 (IIRC). Is this expected and/or what you get? In any > case, the frame has the same height before and after executing this > form. I did in fact see this lack of height change, but only once among the probably dozens of times I executed that code before filing the bug report; I was surprised but since I couldn't reproduce it, I thought it was a fluke. All the other times, *Messages* showed this with emacs-25 and master: Emacs started; frame height: 36 Gnus started; frame height: 36 Reading /home/steve/.newsrc.eld... Opening nnfolder server on archive...done No new newsgroups Checking new news... Reading active file via nnnil...done Reading active file from archive via nnfolder...done Reading active file via nndraft...done Checking new news...done Opening nndoc server on /home/steve/tool-bar-Gnus-frame-bug...done Tool bar disabled; frame height: 36 Entered Summary buffer; frame height: 36 Tool bar enabled; frame height: 36 Other buffer; frame height: 38 Back to Summary buffer; frame height: 38 With 24.5 the frame height numbers were 35 (five times) followed by 37 (twice). When the tool bar was enabled in the Gnus Summary buffer, did you see it displayed as I describe in the OP: an empty 8-pixel high strip? Steve Berman From debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Thu Jul 14 05:01:49 2016 Received: (at 23966) by debbugs.gnu.org; 14 Jul 2016 09:01:49 +0000 Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:50519 helo=debbugs.gnu.org) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1bNcWj-0008S9-D0 for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Thu, 14 Jul 2016 05:01:49 -0400 Received: from mout.gmx.net ([212.227.15.19]:50159) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1bNcWg-0008Rq-PI for 23966@debbugs.gnu.org; Thu, 14 Jul 2016 05:01:47 -0400 Received: from [192.168.1.100] ([212.95.7.23]) by mail.gmx.com (mrgmx002) with ESMTPSA (Nemesis) id 0M3igT-1b5ocn1zFp-00rDIj; Thu, 14 Jul 2016 11:01:40 +0200 Message-ID: <578754F3.9060800@gmx.at> Date: Thu, 14 Jul 2016 11:01:39 +0200 From: martin rudalics MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Stephen Berman Subject: Re: bug#23966: 25.1.50; Frame resizing due to tool bar + Gnus References: <87vb09u40u.fsf@gmx.net> <57867BB6.1020601@gmx.at> <87r3axtkcf.fsf@gmx.net> In-Reply-To: <87r3axtkcf.fsf@gmx.net> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-Provags-ID: V03:K0:Pa9/FQGkIkRbKgYrTFrOKbgXm3a3WpSm2eTyxdN2rUcsXZ4xO44 /qrHc7CI1AuJryj0tZSY5T4AIrVXpVIdHsr3YiJg0tAeIs+SYa36TxnVuxL4iunte7cGNs9 kloOcpfcAkdMDgyf9SOCzG93ldSEGAgXZSPULDQkLv5MKh1MgPXeyRyLBS87LJ8jdjRzEpL UvR2qZA0b+a6xt35yDtJQ== X-UI-Out-Filterresults: notjunk:1;V01:K0:uxrizLxTsEA=:mC+RraiAa8s+D/ZjjlmbE9 86hZVbxAu/i4CnOhef7o/QzyQEXx3zSpSY54XylTNvvR+h72xDytdIY1B/R+lQDwJ99S1Otuw S+EHpZ++t8S2WHA+skENkX3AEJEsY2mntcYJbIIZsaprFmYTq77bygHosnDQAgfa0BqtW+ErI PqZSvBHnTEwOJDD9dgHz+onOqVqUrAT9VAEwIeyXgIBAPmeGxbmYeR+ozZTu25bjjNqEKxKDj 3zT/p3j4oyrpVHRAnWKXRbO2iC4gsk6wQT+VH+mYKm21jQzqTYvAW1jHA9BNniiNiHAQaX1ey 9Np6IzT1WiIFFWJ2K2hQ3D5jbjIA9ZpEIfcNP9PL1Nwd3Y3J+z9YWEnp/yauGlPBiCMu0zu4s CYhdCQTllXrMCXNFZwObPJ+sqMpEkn4YafoB2tujlKNbg1RY9pVncsbTIqgF+ijgSnRoPC9ne HsTywEnTm/A92kytvH433vs2HlqRLGlSlgETp8HNHvZG7O/fP8orgcP4JxX3b8ScGLzLGouv2 otnhevCasU9T/X7gp8ozropFm85iu+CYc8ZDTB1YnLEEUC9V9Mlr5jEcuMm0SrFTw8j3wBmFW V4nxiHc7eEGm5dyw0H5ogMu2YYS9B57b1CTvmXHvWhjX9dYPs95mt4P6pe7ThpMi7ZN7SaXGm 4KYnv+Jf59J3sK968XQBmaiajYPNF3PZBh07WVophoH7TMpajwvK4OUUvePBSC5LnGKsP/7Si vF8r6WQ+th3LUaQnbkA9it45XBwvLYkBPnAVYYNhMCd+LFdjfLkc67cXpiEThCXhadDwp0hgT UeRQX9L6B01/GSZx4yZBE5FO4hDTw== X-Spam-Score: -0.7 (/) X-Debbugs-Envelope-To: 23966 Cc: 23966@debbugs.gnu.org X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18 Precedence: list List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Sender: "Debbugs-submit" X-Spam-Score: -0.7 (/) > I did in fact see this lack of height change, but only once among the > probably dozens of times I executed that code before filing the bug > report; I was surprised but since I couldn't reproduce it, I thought i= t > was a fluke. All the other times, *Messages* showed this with emacs-2= 5 > and master: > > Emacs started; frame height: 36 > Gnus started; frame height: 36 > Reading /home/steve/.newsrc.eld... > Opening nnfolder server on archive...done > No new newsgroups > Checking new news... > Reading active file via nnnil...done > Reading active file from archive via nnfolder...done > Reading active file via nndraft...done > Checking new news...done > Opening nndoc server on /home/steve/tool-bar-Gnus-frame-bug...done > Tool bar disabled; frame height: 36 > Entered Summary buffer; frame height: 36 > Tool bar enabled; frame height: 36 > Other buffer; frame height: 38 > Back to Summary buffer; frame height: 38 =E2=80=98frame-height=E2=80=99 is not necessarily a reliable reflection o= f what you see on screen. > With 24.5 the frame height numbers were 35 (five times) followed by 37= > (twice). > > When the tool bar was enabled in the Gnus Summary buffer, did you see = it > displayed as I describe in the OP: an empty 8-pixel high strip? No. I see a 35-pixel high strip. With the following definitions adapted from yours (defun gtk-tool-bar-height (&optional frame) (let* ((frame (window-normalize-frame frame)) (geometry (frame-geometry frame))) (cddr (assq 'tool-bar-size geometry)))) (let ((testfile "~/tool-bar-Gnus-frame-bug")) (with-temp-file testfile (insert "From nobody Wed Jul 13 13:55:54 CEST 2016 To: stephen.berman@gmx.net Subject: bug test message From: Stephen Berman Date: Wed Jul 13 13:55:54 CEST 2016 Message-ID: <87twg9y16a.fsf@gmx.net> User-Agent: Gnus/5.13 (Gnus v5.13) Emacs/25.1.50 (gnu/linux) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=3Dus-ascii Lines: 1 test ")) (sit-for 0.1) (message "Emacs started; frame pixel height: %d toolbar= height: %d" (frame-pixel-height) (gtk-tool-bar-height)) (require 'gnus) (let ((gnus-select-method '(nnnil ""))) (sit-for 0.1) (message "Gnus started; frame pixel height: %d toolba= r height: %d" (frame-pixel-height) (gtk-tool-bar-height)) (gnus-1) (gnus-group-make-doc-group testfile 'mbox) (tool-bar-mode -1) (sit-for 0.1) (message "Tool bar disabled; frame pixel height: %d t= oolbar height: %d" (frame-pixel-height) (gtk-tool-bar-height)) (sit-for 1) (gnus-group-select-group) (sit-for 0.1) (message "Entered Summary buffer; frame pixel height: = %d toolbar height: %d" (frame-pixel-height) (gtk-tool-bar-height)) (sit-for 1) ;; Uncommenting these three lines and commenting out the same three ;; lines above results in a normal tool bar and no resizing. ;; (tool-bar-mode -1) ;; (sit-for 0.1) (message "Tool bar disabled; frame pixel height: %d= toolbar height: %d" (frame-pixel-height) (gtk-tool-bar-height)) ;; (sit-for 1) (tool-bar-mode 1) (sit-for 0.1) (message "Tool bar enabled; frame pixel height: %d to= olbar height: %d" (frame-pixel-height) (gtk-tool-bar-height)) (sit-for 3) (switch-to-buffer (other-buffer)) (sit-for 0.1) (message "Other buffer; frame pixel height: %d toolba= r height: %d" (frame-pixel-height) (gtk-tool-bar-height)) (sit-for 3) (switch-to-buffer (other-buffer)) (sit-for 0.1) (message "Back to Summary buffer; frame pixel height: = %d toolbar height: %d" (frame-pixel-height) (gtk-tool-bar-height))) (sit-for 3) ;; Suppress further messages and clean up in order to repeat the test ;; simply by evaluating this sexp. (let (message-log-max) (gnus-summary-exit-no-update t) (goto-char (point-min)) (gnus-group-kill-group) (let ((gnus-expert-user t)) (gnus-group-quit)) (delete-file testfile) (when (file-exists-p (gnus-dribble-file-name)) (delete-file (gnus-dribble-file-name)))) (sit-for 0.1) (message "Final; frame pixel height: %d toolbar height:= %d" (frame-pixel-height) (gtk-tool-bar-height)) (sit-for 5) (switch-to-buffer "*Messages*")) and `eval-buffer' of these in an emacs -Q of the release version I get Emacs started; frame pixel height: 648 toolbar height: 44 Gnus started; frame pixel height: 648 toolbar height: 44 Opening nnfolder server on archive...done No new newsgroups Checking new news... Reading active file via nnnil...done Checking new news...done No news is good news Opening nndoc server on /home/martin/tool-bar-Gnus-frame-bug...done Tool bar disabled; frame pixel height: 648 toolbar height: 0 Entered Summary buffer; frame pixel height: 648 toolbar height: 0 Tool bar enabled; frame pixel height: 657 toolbar height: 35 Other buffer; frame pixel height: 648 toolbar height: 44 Back to Summary buffer; frame pixel height: 657 toolbar height: 35 Final; frame pixel height: 648 toolbar height: 44 You can run the command =E2=80=98eval-buffer=E2=80=99 with M-x ev-b RET Final; frame pixel height: 648 toolbar height: 44 So the "empty strips" here have a height of 35 pixels while the "normal" toolbar has 44 pixels. BTW, before getting the "Tool bar enabled" message I briefly see some toolbar contents flashing and getting erased immediately thereafter. The entire frame height doesn't change here probably due to rounding and size hints. However, when I set `frame-resize-pixelwise' to t it changes as follows: Emacs started; frame pixel height: 648 toolbar height: 44 Gnus started; frame pixel height: 648 toolbar height: 44 Opening nnfolder server on archive...done No new newsgroups Checking new news... Reading active file via nnnil...done Checking new news...done No news is good news Opening nndoc server on /home/martin/tool-bar-Gnus-frame-bug...done Tool bar disabled; frame pixel height: 648 toolbar height: 0 Entered Summary buffer; frame pixel height: 648 toolbar height: 0 Tool bar enabled; frame pixel height: 657 toolbar height: 35 Other buffer; frame pixel height: 657 toolbar height: 44 Back to Summary buffer; frame pixel height: 666 toolbar height: 35 Final; frame pixel height: 666 toolbar height: 44 So the pixel height of my frame has increased by 18 (2 times 9 pixels from the difference between 44 and 35). What do you get with my modifications? martin From debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Thu Jul 14 05:56:11 2016 Received: (at 23966) by debbugs.gnu.org; 14 Jul 2016 09:56:11 +0000 Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:50553 helo=debbugs.gnu.org) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1bNdNL-0001UY-5O for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Thu, 14 Jul 2016 05:56:11 -0400 Received: from mout.gmx.net ([212.227.17.22]:53007) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1bNdNI-0001UK-MY for 23966@debbugs.gnu.org; Thu, 14 Jul 2016 05:56:09 -0400 Received: from rosalinde ([89.245.72.63]) by mail.gmx.com (mrgmx103) with ESMTPSA (Nemesis) id 0Lkwpt-1anCYn3oFp-00akqM; Thu, 14 Jul 2016 11:56:01 +0200 From: Stephen Berman To: martin rudalics Subject: Re: bug#23966: 25.1.50; Frame resizing due to tool bar + Gnus References: <87vb09u40u.fsf@gmx.net> <57867BB6.1020601@gmx.at> <87r3axtkcf.fsf@gmx.net> <578754F3.9060800@gmx.at> Date: Thu, 14 Jul 2016 11:55:59 +0200 In-Reply-To: <578754F3.9060800@gmx.at> (martin rudalics's message of "Thu, 14 Jul 2016 11:01:39 +0200") Message-ID: <87a8hkpmq8.fsf@gmx.net> User-Agent: Gnus/5.13 (Gnus v5.13) Emacs/25.1.50 (gnu/linux) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-Provags-ID: V03:K0:wYDvp21wclCsVtBLeW/hS1226SA8oduSyN6g6wkPC3sY0i2lJzx 2IuQ6lvv62w0Ym9N4harbJowCRw7922pmhxmwKcy4wHjJhlfEdWVgbl8N70A+VLzu//eOsG A86npNgL0ZDYEduVaZhR8WpVq8cgwLZZfQG06wyhyrvOWJ4Lnwa7f9975XnzsZpTWD1Y/PS yclAsJnJZfy1ry1Lqf3OA== X-UI-Out-Filterresults: notjunk:1;V01:K0:tX7vWEqsSfU=:GgHIsxsj5Zh+OAm4ox4ZpI BOkiLw5/XqSWZ16WT9dJ01r1athnOW/TIOyzunP/TukLl0ZCGVwxjJjfiKCQb4Zf14SKtotyP 6vU41P/HWEEwACGPj4ElyM73eUQdulzV7DoJjQOqn30/BJTURxbLbNK4agZSztORbFZ3RuymS uyOH9HSyxH5tT1KWILZiLM5/IY6RAnMVPx4fPun5yHXQGuXvRCmvWWj1XpagmnofvAxksiLIM 8qeugwqCj8UtZtBbL0mUwS6lY/u7i4Q7Sc6KR0O6T032syDfW7KNmC9erFf4mW3UbI4DIvXAH UfD3/B5k9tD9cXAOj73wLGXDstQ3ps1lVEzZfBlxq/6L3xgRrKs9DPkil3soamghIk/qqpdK+ npHf53Qr7i2UzrqEG2n3zcN7KUeYP0pVQzmSe+cOcOlQWSpwSlajesK+Pf1XHKANwArwUlShC nfQj5JBKNiobU/2S1GK0vlp8JpT+q0YMJeY+3BgIO7PuppTBbPxe9/SuWXEn5dxipcz7K9fpX 449UtQ3nY0dZVYIH34RfCd4bDmoImWwHDc9/2W1mMzylEY/ipNrS52w7pEnsvhV9YfLHxryJX rROuJ/hzsS8SlZzHJw2sXnCNloW/9YGH8LHtmVbPXhHv/qylDbG8WZ8unBm7SmTybf5sxaEEd cDRYhBDOIYYmk2jOVjfUX5GHAl8Gqz1oRrB6B0CXRBEvfKCQ/6bPFGlEV3uWwVvb8kVHuZPwk sat8UZUKk7tXQe54xh15CETn9M2BR4BRx+CmdqVrx85IqERtWRyNGbv+sF4dc0R3wzp3TdLLS h2yHJjq X-Spam-Score: -2.0 (--) X-Debbugs-Envelope-To: 23966 Cc: 23966@debbugs.gnu.org X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18 Precedence: list List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Sender: "Debbugs-submit" X-Spam-Score: -2.0 (--) On Thu, 14 Jul 2016 11:01:39 +0200 martin rudalics wrote: > =E2=80=98frame-height=E2=80=99 is not necessarily a reliable reflection o= f what you see > on screen. Why not? What's more reliable? >> When the tool bar was enabled in the Gnus Summary buffer, did you see it >> displayed as I describe in the OP: an empty 8-pixel high strip? > > No. I see a 35-pixel high strip. With the following definitions > adapted from yours [...] > and `eval-buffer' of these in an emacs -Q of the release version I get I assume you mean from emacs-25? With 24.5 I get "Symbol's function definition is void: frame-geometry". > Emacs started; frame pixel height: 648 toolbar height: 44 > Gnus started; frame pixel height: 648 toolbar height: 44 > Opening nnfolder server on archive...done > No new newsgroups > Checking new news... > Reading active file via nnnil...done > Checking new news...done > No news is good news > Opening nndoc server on /home/martin/tool-bar-Gnus-frame-bug...done > Tool bar disabled; frame pixel height: 648 toolbar height: 0 > Entered Summary buffer; frame pixel height: 648 toolbar height: 0 > Tool bar enabled; frame pixel height: 657 toolbar height: 35 > Other buffer; frame pixel height: 648 toolbar height: 44 > Back to Summary buffer; frame pixel height: 657 toolbar height: 35 > Final; frame pixel height: 648 toolbar height: 44 > You can run the command =E2=80=98eval-buffer=E2=80=99 with M-x ev-b RET > Final; frame pixel height: 648 toolbar height: 44 > > > So the "empty strips" here have a height of 35 pixels while the "normal" > toolbar has 44 pixels. BTW, before getting the "Tool bar enabled" > message I briefly see some toolbar contents flashing and getting erased > immediately thereafter. I didn't consciously notice that before, but now that you mention it, I do see that too. > The entire frame height doesn't change here probably due to rounding and > size hints. However, when I set `frame-resize-pixelwise' to t it > changes as follows: > > > Emacs started; frame pixel height: 648 toolbar height: 44 > Gnus started; frame pixel height: 648 toolbar height: 44 > Opening nnfolder server on archive...done > No new newsgroups > Checking new news... > Reading active file via nnnil...done > Checking new news...done > No news is good news > Opening nndoc server on /home/martin/tool-bar-Gnus-frame-bug...done > Tool bar disabled; frame pixel height: 648 toolbar height: 0 > Entered Summary buffer; frame pixel height: 648 toolbar height: 0 > Tool bar enabled; frame pixel height: 657 toolbar height: 35 > Other buffer; frame pixel height: 657 toolbar height: 44 > Back to Summary buffer; frame pixel height: 666 toolbar height: 35 > Final; frame pixel height: 666 toolbar height: 44 > > > So the pixel height of my frame has increased by 18 (2 times 9 pixels > from the difference between 44 and 35). > > What do you get with my modifications? On emacs-25 with -Q and frame-resize-pixelwise nil: Emacs started; frame pixel height: 576 toolbar height: 53 Gnus started; frame pixel height: 576 toolbar height: 53 Reading /home/steve/.newsrc.eld... Opening nnfolder server on archive...done No new newsgroups Checking new news... Reading active file via nnnil...done Reading active file from archive via nnfolder...done Reading active file via nndraft...done Checking new news...done Opening nndoc server on /home/steve/tool-bar-Gnus-frame-bug...done Tool bar disabled; frame pixel height: 576 toolbar height: 0 Entered Summary buffer; frame pixel height: 576 toolbar height: 0 Tool bar enabled; frame pixel height: 621 toolbar height: 8 Other buffer; frame pixel height: 608 toolbar height: 53 Back to Summary buffer; frame pixel height: 645 toolbar height: 8 Final; frame pixel height: 640 toolbar height: 53 On master with -Q and frame-resize-pixelwise nil the results were the same except for the third to last line: Other buffer; frame pixel height: 608 toolbar height: 45 On emacs-25 with -Q frame-resize-pixelwise t: Emacs started; frame pixel height: 576 toolbar height: 53 Gnus started; frame pixel height: 576 toolbar height: 53 Reading /home/steve/.newsrc.eld... Opening nnfolder server on archive...done No new newsgroups Checking new news... Reading active file via nnnil...done Reading active file from archive via nnfolder...done Reading active file via nndraft...done Checking new news...done Opening nndoc server on /home/steve/tool-bar-Gnus-frame-bug...done Tool bar disabled; frame pixel height: 576 toolbar height: 0 Entered Summary buffer; frame pixel height: 576 toolbar height: 0 Tool bar enabled; frame pixel height: 621 toolbar height: 8 Other buffer; frame pixel height: 621 toolbar height: 53 Back to Summary buffer; frame pixel height: 666 toolbar height: 8 Final; frame pixel height: 666 toolbar height: 53 On master with -Q and frame-resize-pixelwise t the results were the same except for the last three lines: Other buffer; frame pixel height: 621 toolbar height: 45 Back to Summary buffer; frame pixel height: 658 toolbar height: 8 Final; frame pixel height: 658 toolbar height: 53 Steve Berman From debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Thu Jul 14 13:33:50 2016 Received: (at 23966) by debbugs.gnu.org; 14 Jul 2016 17:33:50 +0000 Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:51707 helo=debbugs.gnu.org) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1bNkWE-0001Rx-E2 for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Thu, 14 Jul 2016 13:33:50 -0400 Received: from mout.gmx.net ([212.227.15.15]:61962) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1bNkWD-0001Rj-0h for 23966@debbugs.gnu.org; Thu, 14 Jul 2016 13:33:49 -0400 Received: from [192.168.1.100] ([212.95.7.23]) by mail.gmx.com (mrgmx003) with ESMTPSA (Nemesis) id 0M86jp-1bA5Pb0xWb-00vgBH; Thu, 14 Jul 2016 19:33:42 +0200 Message-ID: <5787CCF5.3000404@gmx.at> Date: Thu, 14 Jul 2016 19:33:41 +0200 From: martin rudalics MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Stephen Berman Subject: Re: bug#23966: 25.1.50; Frame resizing due to tool bar + Gnus References: <87vb09u40u.fsf@gmx.net> <57867BB6.1020601@gmx.at> <87r3axtkcf.fsf@gmx.net> <578754F3.9060800@gmx.at> <87a8hkpmq8.fsf@gmx.net> In-Reply-To: <87a8hkpmq8.fsf@gmx.net> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-Provags-ID: V03:K0:0THd2luiL3Y+lgaJDDSRkrPtt9RzQC6KUw35CYfJwQPydVJj/ww 7dOfjFVcpV1+IHZXG83YwO/4lMfqCwo/22QCyh1hHIjqcW2SwAm1oG8uxN9Zz9PVZMcSliU 4eZv5MgVIhZ1N+Uh/ad0zVS1kOJ6tFKxp4rM6195575jyXBn8OKr3thGppnSIm7e/k+Cj5e CSgDrFZvD6V/eSVK+9Lpg== X-UI-Out-Filterresults: notjunk:1;V01:K0:t/4vvIfdQ4s=:emPPKU5aOh0H63WZWN9Q5L WpGtTkwnMvU5MJxcG2KeH1sbIsGf+F1IWqW4DF4P7DXeKUJFE3TdM4/h/OD5y6K+7Vf8T8iWh Ma+63aR1/7Zjn3CrXMYZ2qlWw3p+wElC31m6XMsJCMwh3OwZrReMyHTiovkx5a8K6pVszGUpa KUkDZ2zSTsmlhAibAJATpYnjEXyG6Z9g/raWOCAtvE47PtURDIeDMWTalOpSVCFFPj76aXc9k XDMAJx4PSbl5x5Jr2BABr+jCCcdtFkE4nb1lJefDenzKOfgLWPwtTYLlb9blp0cMHgIWPOtQc EZlbgWl0/Z/heDNqyrcOJkuYKvYVZa9Yw0JRYJlfQljvQHmYz1ci/jfEf7VXcIVY8Je27mt2w SrtCR5W67gTBw9yJRCiJOd55ZdAylTLd7l27oMgSTR6zeIJ8ATmgjNEdWUh58B3aD9SWwdMo4 ym48HarMn/qNAZGkWC9yKsGNNCMR8r4vsP1V66GMULaKPo8+5IyXRde8DTY3Z96bSQ81YaGUA eI4m/TBpkw949RFW4BqhkOyeGGLh5uXUQ4Oj2BZnavzdmC/cHiOSE6aVrzJHhFQx662XVystm FqN7Ij4ZvC9p6g87+PgHgi9CqojiEy+ATRQbhOpb/DQMzBFFxzIRERUrjXt7dxA7cXCo7/ZE8 Z8KDOJRfgLbPcoxpUuxcAilw0nqf0TM0l0195Wkoh4nyAyEsq36JjrKLfdrM9iYDJykAAluzp qbtDElrmK3TXIFdCcZarQlN1HTfKmf3Ta7RnOeqUYdwMBiUWflS1wQkUr3Mblr0wsMdBC4VJw bEqgRwYq4zJ2h56T6pLJ2NXKPbB0w== X-Spam-Score: -0.7 (/) X-Debbugs-Envelope-To: 23966 Cc: 23966@debbugs.gnu.org X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18 Precedence: list List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Sender: "Debbugs-submit" X-Spam-Score: -0.7 (/) >> =E2=80=98frame-height=E2=80=99 is not necessarily a reliable reflecti= on of what you see >> on screen. > > Why not? Because of rounding. Tool bar, menu bar and scroll bars do not have necessarily sizes that are multiples of a frame's default character size. And often you're losing pixels when the frame gets maximized or =E2=80=98frame-resize-pixelwise=E2=80=99 is non-nil during resizing. > What's more reliable? Everything that counts in pixels like =E2=80=98frame-pixel-height=E2=80=99= =2E >> ... in an emacs -Q of the release version I get > > I assume you mean from emacs-25? Yes. > With 24.5 I get "Symbol's function > definition is void: frame-geometry". Indeed. >> What do you get with my modifications? > > On emacs-25 with -Q and frame-resize-pixelwise nil: [...] > Other buffer; frame pixel height: 608 toolbar height: 53 [...] > > On master with -Q and frame-resize-pixelwise nil the results were the > same except for the third to last line: > > Other buffer; frame pixel height: 608 toolbar height: 45 Not here. I get 648 and 44 in both cases. > On emacs-25 with -Q frame-resize-pixelwise t: > > Emacs started; frame pixel height: 576 toolbar height: 53 [...] > Final; frame pixel height: 666 toolbar height: 53 So your frame has grown by 90 pixels. Remarkable. BTW setting =E2=80=98frame-inhibit-implied-resize=E2=80=99 to t would avoid that. > On master with -Q and frame-resize-pixelwise t the results were the > same except for the last three lines: > > Other buffer; frame pixel height: 621 toolbar height: 45 > Back to Summary buffer; frame pixel height: 658 toolbar height: 8 > Final; frame pixel height: 658 toolbar height: 53 Here all lines are the same, again. The problem is not GTK specific. Lucid and Motif behave similarly. I suppose that just enabling =E2=80=98tool-bar-mode=E2=80=99 is not suffici= ent to make a gnus tool bar once gnus has started. Maybe this deficiency is inherent to =E2=80=98tool-bar-mode=E2=80=99 itself. But it would be interesting t= o find out who's responsible for making such small (8 pixels in your, 35 pixels in my case) tool bars in the first place. martin From debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Thu Jul 14 15:14:44 2016 Received: (at 23966) by debbugs.gnu.org; 14 Jul 2016 19:14:44 +0000 Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:51754 helo=debbugs.gnu.org) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1bNm5s-00040o-1L for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Thu, 14 Jul 2016 15:14:44 -0400 Received: from mout.gmx.net ([212.227.15.19]:59210) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1bNm5q-00040Z-Dt for 23966@debbugs.gnu.org; Thu, 14 Jul 2016 15:14:42 -0400 Received: from rosalinde ([89.245.72.63]) by mail.gmx.com (mrgmx002) with ESMTPSA (Nemesis) id 0MS5Dm-1bpjNJ3WOo-00TCHu; Thu, 14 Jul 2016 21:14:36 +0200 From: Stephen Berman To: martin rudalics Subject: Re: bug#23966: 25.1.50; Frame resizing due to tool bar + Gnus References: <87vb09u40u.fsf@gmx.net> <57867BB6.1020601@gmx.at> <87r3axtkcf.fsf@gmx.net> <578754F3.9060800@gmx.at> <87a8hkpmq8.fsf@gmx.net> <5787CCF5.3000404@gmx.at> Date: Thu, 14 Jul 2016 21:14:34 +0200 In-Reply-To: <5787CCF5.3000404@gmx.at> (martin rudalics's message of "Thu, 14 Jul 2016 19:33:41 +0200") Message-ID: <87eg6wghgl.fsf@gmx.net> User-Agent: Gnus/5.13 (Gnus v5.13) Emacs/25.1.50 (gnu/linux) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-Provags-ID: V03:K0:Xr2ut/jlMwkqYuuZeorE6HLBT+BuD9entOFeJGurmg+M+J7Drfi qXAnk/FydDWYLilpsfeIFm25JDrDxlkyb7dkEqSBJ3XMfPX+fdKPCNJF/HDJT6tyZn3+Z5R sDjLY84lxm/ce1IwMaqbDMhfcOyrbV3ug8rvadMBGTBrJ2qnJG8ycwIya0UEZnhU3BMuovK 0HsJhs6A+MdRkhTIFpZOQ== X-UI-Out-Filterresults: notjunk:1;V01:K0:HnRQSdFH9Xs=:RfSOl3dlPTVXTwk23g0w4q i9RGqJKrGcv4riUAIKcAtSbmm6wOhpqDUTT2dy87yIEvs/TWhp0n/a9fDD8AvS9hs0GC3hDVP EO3MNWi2iGIfhq0PSnCmCo+uaCF4oczNfhizOvEhYDNkFG8bFnXe3+LOYrBqsHshdngc9pLxu caRturranRg7kfwylTQ3Z/tLlPXaQayM6q+K+vg3ePJhDgQPfYvUsQVpqLdpa1PvBcl8Oyt+2 H38KM11G1R5Vgoqg9lPTaGWtC/I5Mkz0dxXxFJ+/kSoHviR3cZ9MmN6dtbFkd10fZJDmuQpeI 2RGq7xPN2YPBMVoeyXcK/Ecnuyh26vB5C7Xc9TFqMvMeGUKxiFH5TO3xsiZYGfjJicbukQPFS sQmH8MPAFcZSKc/UGcImwUNg5NUtcsWqHdVqOxBgUN6BCjWr+Qh3ebdXBupffIobZB3+DIKMJ AUiw7/EeyfUeo0X1sOFcLjGPro8DWDi8qLWpLTzHCo5s7Wnp3rPF1CLpRhpmOlUuIP5OUx4SO 163PUSmkjw7LoM0GPT1NJHQml4xDn18c+D0Wsd7xgW40yZdjNK6pBLu52QvNW9RqfK4VxqZpb s/Fhq8SmsUUxCuRI7R0kntxLYCoKXEuK5/uFhKoruwQF2HXDElaRQa+/SMhxdBVKXWKJXVcw+ ulJqRN9B1IAAGp5cdX7KySmTqVCtCR7WU+31MQT5YHCgcKFG0hh7w03E3UZjt3FTwx/0IgXpO z/8HWSEo2OLoVgY3IzgFhuNVGK7P5wcHxSga3HRccS29suX294TsZ2Cgnjn5EgSQ7Xoq9YIfy NLF8mZ5 X-Spam-Score: -2.0 (--) X-Debbugs-Envelope-To: 23966 Cc: 23966@debbugs.gnu.org X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18 Precedence: list List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Sender: "Debbugs-submit" X-Spam-Score: -2.0 (--) On Thu, 14 Jul 2016 19:33:41 +0200 martin rudalics wrote: >>> =E2=80=98frame-height=E2=80=99 is not necessarily a reliable reflection= of what you see >>> on screen. >> >> Why not? > > Because of rounding. Tool bar, menu bar and scroll bars do not have > necessarily sizes that are multiples of a frame's default character > size. And often you're losing pixels when the frame gets maximized or > =E2=80=98frame-resize-pixelwise=E2=80=99 is non-nil during resizing. > >> What's more reliable? > > Everything that counts in pixels like =E2=80=98frame-pixel-height=E2=80= =99. Thanks. >>> What do you get with my modifications? >> >> On emacs-25 with -Q and frame-resize-pixelwise nil: > [...] >> Other buffer; frame pixel height: 608 toolbar height: 53 > [...] >> >> On master with -Q and frame-resize-pixelwise nil the results were the >> same except for the third to last line: >> >> Other buffer; frame pixel height: 608 toolbar height: 45 > > Not here. I get 648 and 44 in both cases. > >> On emacs-25 with -Q frame-resize-pixelwise t: >> >> Emacs started; frame pixel height: 576 toolbar height: 53 > [...] >> Final; frame pixel height: 666 toolbar height: 53 > > So your frame has grown by 90 pixels. Remarkable. BTW setting > =E2=80=98frame-inhibit-implied-resize=E2=80=99 to t would avoid that. Ah, indeed. I didn't know about that variable, thanks. > The problem is not GTK specific. Lucid and Motif behave similarly. I Interesting; I had suspected it was just a GTK issue. > suppose that just enabling =E2=80=98tool-bar-mode=E2=80=99 is not suffici= ent to make a > gnus tool bar once gnus has started. Maybe this deficiency is inherent > to =E2=80=98tool-bar-mode=E2=80=99 itself. But it would be interesting t= o find out > who's responsible for making such small (8 pixels in your, 35 pixels in > my case) tool bars in the first place. Indeed. Steve Berman From debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Thu Apr 12 11:01:50 2018 Received: (at 23966) by debbugs.gnu.org; 12 Apr 2018 15:01:50 +0000 Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:48061 helo=debbugs.gnu.org) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1f6djS-00051j-59 for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Thu, 12 Apr 2018 11:01:50 -0400 Received: from hermes.netfonds.no ([80.91.224.195]:37411) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1f6djQ-0004zv-DG for 23966@debbugs.gnu.org; Thu, 12 Apr 2018 11:01:48 -0400 Received: from 46.67.12.60.tmi.telenormobil.no ([46.67.12.60] helo=corrigan) by hermes.netfonds.no with esmtpsa (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1f6djJ-0003Jt-N0; Thu, 12 Apr 2018 17:01:47 +0200 Received: from larsi by corrigan with local (Exim 4.89) (envelope-from ) id 1f6djD-0004ks-UR; Thu, 12 Apr 2018 17:01:35 +0200 From: Lars Ingebrigtsen To: Stephen Berman Subject: Re: bug#23966: 25.1.50; Frame resizing due to tool bar + Gnus References: <87vb09u40u.fsf@gmx.net> <57867BB6.1020601@gmx.at> <87r3axtkcf.fsf@gmx.net> <578754F3.9060800@gmx.at> <87a8hkpmq8.fsf@gmx.net> <5787CCF5.3000404@gmx.at> <87eg6wghgl.fsf@gmx.net> Date: Thu, 12 Apr 2018 17:01:35 +0200 In-Reply-To: <87eg6wghgl.fsf@gmx.net> (Stephen Berman's message of "Thu, 14 Jul 2016 21:14:34 +0200") Message-ID: <874lkgtqnk.fsf@mouse.gnus.org> User-Agent: Gnus/5.13 (Gnus v5.13) Emacs/27.0.50 (gnu/linux) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-Spam-Score: 0.0 (/) X-Debbugs-Envelope-To: 23966 Cc: martin rudalics , 23966@debbugs.gnu.org X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18 Precedence: list List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Sender: "Debbugs-submit" X-Spam-Score: -1.0 (-) Stephen Berman writes: >> suppose that just enabling =E2=80=98tool-bar-mode=E2=80=99 is not suffic= ient to make a >> gnus tool bar once gnus has started. Maybe this deficiency is inherent >> to =E2=80=98tool-bar-mode=E2=80=99 itself. But it would be interesting = to find out >> who's responsible for making such small (8 pixels in your, 35 pixels in >> my case) tool bars in the first place. > > Indeed. Do you still see this on Emacs master now? There have been quite a few pixel-sizing fixes applied to Emacs over the past year... --=20 (domestic pets only, the antidote for overdose, milk.) bloggy blog: http://lars.ingebrigtsen.no From debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Fri Apr 13 05:16:31 2018 Received: (at 23966) by debbugs.gnu.org; 13 Apr 2018 09:16:31 +0000 Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:49090 helo=debbugs.gnu.org) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1f6uol-0004vP-8F for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Fri, 13 Apr 2018 05:16:31 -0400 Received: from mout.gmx.net ([212.227.15.15]:42653) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1f6uof-0004v5-EM for 23966@debbugs.gnu.org; Fri, 13 Apr 2018 05:16:25 -0400 Received: from rosalinde ([83.135.16.16]) by mail.gmx.com (mrgmx002 [212.227.17.190]) with ESMTPSA (Nemesis) id 0LyF3F-1eLuCh1Y61-015Y31; Fri, 13 Apr 2018 11:16:14 +0200 From: Stephen Berman To: Lars Ingebrigtsen Subject: Re: bug#23966: 25.1.50; Frame resizing due to tool bar + Gnus References: <87vb09u40u.fsf@gmx.net> <57867BB6.1020601@gmx.at> <87r3axtkcf.fsf@gmx.net> <578754F3.9060800@gmx.at> <87a8hkpmq8.fsf@gmx.net> <5787CCF5.3000404@gmx.at> <87eg6wghgl.fsf@gmx.net> <874lkgtqnk.fsf@mouse.gnus.org> Date: Fri, 13 Apr 2018 11:16:12 +0200 In-Reply-To: <874lkgtqnk.fsf@mouse.gnus.org> (Lars Ingebrigtsen's message of "Thu, 12 Apr 2018 17:01:35 +0200") Message-ID: <87h8ofcvqb.fsf@gmx.net> User-Agent: Gnus/5.13 (Gnus v5.13) Emacs/27.0.50 (gnu/linux) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-Provags-ID: V03:K1:2ZBv2p7gSfzUwfZ87mFCiVgeF0EmqyvgT3RW0TaDT8A7CFFhOa5 vJ8bkcLnL3AGDKc4V9MwUT0wEYE5/ZfLqRcT3NkAYlGAZTJ274lsnoIs8/LodVfigs7ebNT i3OzmAPlau4+6hAMbPII2Of4UfuYl2QG2CNQpAJgxSLsFrD7T/tHf2ZLb0OjhAo+mBrV7oO eMNzbrpEuni3G4FnLAZ4A== X-UI-Out-Filterresults: notjunk:1;V01:K0:MjY4GArHgp8=:VrdtnaNEKj7cxCC18TNwsa yq31fe9KFH5rCy7L+oiNW8KIEstNsslB7enDh17+LtkBoYwOzG5fC/tTYCq4FTGCOq9b2hfKv xUSvfeCNNDhx1G7jeRecu5tBT5f3xWRFkFESaKXEKoKiygm+f+NGAdTWXlwREaTa5XDNIcFAl EYuYkrq60xtXhvnxoJ8JS6b/laTWnVxyLFNkOD+33/RgPkiX1IaIAW951mJ05M1QmaRahDgEf sjtae2AuwxyNdLku0tGCCmFBvBRfednsV2Vx0P0C6+cvODhCzI7p8wYBZsw2uGwscveQ7MjQI FuggNxeD7BiBVlefX+etPbZjBYsSDj+Y6frlG8o1L0oj581bQZWq7tzFGWMaAYyAJZ0jJjxX5 kS9Im1uYXYjrur6lE0RQbJ7iPzVCQWxMaNBBNiHcLKrb0paASLIkpNKcXf9dmcAmV+2YGAG17 gTFNgp47yJ4EcNTm86G1WjDpO94gyDHI4IP//cSXS4Dpe0vIRL9Cqr1FvRRw1r7asEnbtZ+mi BYYnmMjnOgzDhE8Q+TC5oLANgIJIv4frtyz0KXmhWDP2saBpC5XjvugjzcMal9S8WcclxL2yS PYUn6FcHIJI2JgMxR/bQTmgmGsj6WPyIYyHkNQZaREQw13PnaitiVW76aiW70vP8UFbeWXJRz srXMIXwJJ7lLCoxEo1kGr8tEDSj6iwVkXwn3HbYvGc0X+URJy8P5Edt3V+M/99fbsdSut8e02 ZyRFHcz0yJLuMEqM9haDE/3Q5rSxLk69CEBBRXBriZOE5saCrh4z6UO3CPpEzgSWWonPEv/s5 kcX6liVAk2JZjhvAe6SYGIhRhnX5uwjhYnLVlX/Om/V8Pn9YWs= X-Spam-Score: -0.7 (/) X-Debbugs-Envelope-To: 23966 Cc: martin rudalics , 23966@debbugs.gnu.org X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18 Precedence: list List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Sender: "Debbugs-submit" X-Spam-Score: -1.7 (-) On Thu, 12 Apr 2018 17:01:35 +0200 Lars Ingebrigtsen wrote: > Stephen Berman writes: > >>> suppose that just enabling =E2=80=98tool-bar-mode=E2=80=99 is not suffi= cient to make a >>> gnus tool bar once gnus has started. Maybe this deficiency is inherent >>> to =E2=80=98tool-bar-mode=E2=80=99 itself. But it would be interesting= to find out >>> who's responsible for making such small (8 pixels in your, 35 pixels in >>> my case) tool bars in the first place. >> >> Indeed. > > Do you still see this on Emacs master now? There have been quite a few > pixel-sizing fixes applied to Emacs over the past year... Yes, with (a gtk3 build of) current master I still get frame resizing both with my original recipe and with Martin's pixelwise adjustment. For the latter, here are the outputs with frame-resize-pixelwise nil: Emacs started; frame pixel height: 648 toolbar height: 42 Gnus started; frame pixel height: 648 toolbar height: 42 Opening nnfolder server on archive...done Subscribe newsgroup: nnfolder+archive:sent Subscribe newsgroup: nnfolder+archive:emacs-personal 2 new newsgroups have arrived Checking new news... Reading active file via nnnil...done Reading active file from archive via nnfolder...done Checking new news...done Opening nndoc server on /home/steve/tool-bar-Gnus-frame-bug...done Tool bar disabled; frame pixel height: 648 toolbar height: 0 Entered Summary buffer; frame pixel height: 648 toolbar height: 0 Tool bar enabled; frame pixel height: 683 toolbar height: 7 Other buffer; frame pixel height: 666 toolbar height: 42 Back to Summary buffer; frame pixel height: 701 toolbar height: 7 Final; frame pixel height: 684 toolbar height: 42 and with frame-resize-pixelwise t: Emacs started; frame pixel height: 648 toolbar height: 42 Gnus started; frame pixel height: 648 toolbar height: 42 Opening nnfolder server on archive...done Subscribe newsgroup: nnfolder+archive:sent Subscribe newsgroup: nnfolder+archive:emacs-personal 2 new newsgroups have arrived Checking new news... Reading active file via nnnil...done Reading active file from archive via nnfolder...done Checking new news...done Opening nndoc server on /home/steve/tool-bar-Gnus-frame-bug...done Tool bar disabled; frame pixel height: 648 toolbar height: 0 Entered Summary buffer; frame pixel height: 648 toolbar height: 0 Tool bar enabled; frame pixel height: 683 toolbar height: 7 Other buffer; frame pixel height: 683 toolbar height: 42 Back to Summary buffer; frame pixel height: 718 toolbar height: 7 Final; frame pixel height: 718 toolbar height: 42 Steve Berman From debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Sun Jul 19 12:02:32 2020 Received: (at 23966) by debbugs.gnu.org; 19 Jul 2020 16:02:33 +0000 Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:32865 helo=debbugs.gnu.org) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1jxBlo-0008KS-Nt for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Sun, 19 Jul 2020 12:02:32 -0400 Received: from quimby.gnus.org ([95.216.78.240]:35232) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1jxBlk-0008DD-C9 for 23966@debbugs.gnu.org; Sun, 19 Jul 2020 12:02:31 -0400 DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; q=dns/txt; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gnus.org; s=20200322; h=Content-Type:MIME-Version:Message-ID:In-Reply-To:Date: References:Subject:Cc:To:From:Sender:Reply-To:Content-Transfer-Encoding: Content-ID:Content-Description:Resent-Date:Resent-From:Resent-Sender: Resent-To:Resent-Cc:Resent-Message-ID:List-Id:List-Help:List-Unsubscribe: List-Subscribe:List-Post:List-Owner:List-Archive; bh=1YERqSpRNl/OyZSIS4rY7IhALf7m3SL71HMP+IZFji4=; b=RDTtkqc0bCtUdhE/k747G4NqE/ 76/r0bQrOvA0ELMgE6LIcC0GGodAn+SUZq5jzxV3WvYuYCaSF/pyHk6qM3HvMT6cpY+2LK4OmMDwT lfWrvNFlezd4QumGXBBYu85p6V+/1+vtY8HQTNDGbLf6PzddkVw8AVNkzSX40OLrZsok=; Received: from cm-84.212.202.86.getinternet.no ([84.212.202.86] helo=xo) by quimby with esmtpsa (TLS1.3:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.92) (envelope-from ) id 1jxBlY-0008D1-KA; Sun, 19 Jul 2020 18:02:22 +0200 From: Lars Ingebrigtsen To: Stephen Berman Subject: Re: bug#23966: 25.1.50; Frame resizing due to tool bar + Gnus References: <87vb09u40u.fsf@gmx.net> <57867BB6.1020601@gmx.at> <87r3axtkcf.fsf@gmx.net> <578754F3.9060800@gmx.at> <87a8hkpmq8.fsf@gmx.net> <5787CCF5.3000404@gmx.at> <87eg6wghgl.fsf@gmx.net> <874lkgtqnk.fsf@mouse.gnus.org> <87h8ofcvqb.fsf@gmx.net> Date: Sun, 19 Jul 2020 18:02:15 +0200 In-Reply-To: <87h8ofcvqb.fsf@gmx.net> (Stephen Berman's message of "Fri, 13 Apr 2018 11:16:12 +0200") Message-ID: <87wo2zmr20.fsf@gnus.org> User-Agent: Gnus/5.13 (Gnus v5.13) Emacs/28.0.50 (gnu/linux) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain X-Spam-Report: Spam detection software, running on the system "quimby.gnus.org", has NOT identified this incoming email as spam. The original message has been attached to this so you can view it or label similar future email. If you have any questions, see @@CONTACT_ADDRESS@@ for details. Content preview: OK, I'm trying to reproduce this in Emacs 28, and... I'm getting all kinds of strangeness. I usually don't use tool bars, but if I just enter a summary mode buffer and say M-x tool-bar-mode, then I don't actually get a tool bar -- I just get a ~10-pixel high grey stripe at the top. Content analysis details: (-2.9 points, 5.0 required) pts rule name description ---- ---------------------- -------------------------------------------------- -1.0 ALL_TRUSTED Passed through trusted hosts only via SMTP -1.9 BAYES_00 BODY: Bayes spam probability is 0 to 1% [score: 0.0000] X-Spam-Score: 0.0 (/) X-Debbugs-Envelope-To: 23966 Cc: martin rudalics , 23966@debbugs.gnu.org X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18 Precedence: list List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Sender: "Debbugs-submit" X-Spam-Score: -1.0 (-) OK, I'm trying to reproduce this in Emacs 28, and... I'm getting all kinds of strangeness. I usually don't use tool bars, but if I just enter a summary mode buffer and say M-x tool-bar-mode, then I don't actually get a tool bar -- I just get a ~10-pixel high grey stripe at the top. This may be because gnus-summary-tool-bar is 'gnus-summary-tool-bar-retro? If, on the other hand, I switch tool-bar-mode on before starting Gnus, then I do get a tool bar, and that variable is 'gnus-summary-tool-bar-gnome. This is because (defcustom gnus-summary-tool-bar (if (eq gmm-tool-bar-style 'gnome) 'gnus-summary-tool-bar-gnome 'gnus-summary-tool-bar-retro) and (defcustom gmm-tool-bar-style (if (and (boundp 'tool-bar-mode) tool-bar-mode (not (memq (display-visual-class) (list 'static-gray 'gray-scale 'static-color 'pseudo-color)))) 'gnome 'retro) "Preferred tool bar style." :type '(choice (const :tag "GNOME style" gnome) (const :tag "Retro look" retro)) :group 'gmm) so that's set at load time, and depends on whether you've switched tool bar mode on or not before loading the file. Which seems less than optimal... Anyway, is this a different bug than what you were all talking about? :-) -- (domestic pets only, the antidote for overdose, milk.) bloggy blog: http://lars.ingebrigtsen.no From debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Mon Jul 20 05:10:57 2020 Received: (at 23966) by debbugs.gnu.org; 20 Jul 2020 09:10:57 +0000 Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:33730 helo=debbugs.gnu.org) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1jxRp3-0002V9-9q for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Mon, 20 Jul 2020 05:10:57 -0400 Received: from mout.gmx.net ([212.227.17.21]:47201) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1jxRp1-0002Uv-H2 for 23966@debbugs.gnu.org; Mon, 20 Jul 2020 05:10:56 -0400 DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/simple; d=gmx.net; s=badeba3b8450; t=1595236249; bh=RE12zq4PfIne4Ym4V9aEqurqFUu0Il3bKiTZ2mQ1ROE=; h=X-UI-Sender-Class:From:To:Cc:Subject:References:Date:In-Reply-To; b=NnwfNiyToB/1KiqxNHn/tZdQJk35VzM7pfasOuMBc8eYIkIpQ+L0E+Ymzm1j1I4A8 Xq1ZO3kynuJTBRriAjEz+yPAkVjolqgonvQ9HtLhgTMJN89PE9zIT5N/pT9WYZxaKh P31Gtyzg3QwYvluKvzFE4GPOg2NO/+fwl4vjhdVE= X-UI-Sender-Class: 01bb95c1-4bf8-414a-932a-4f6e2808ef9c Received: from strobe-jhalfs ([178.9.98.4]) by mail.gmx.com (mrgmx105 [212.227.17.168]) with ESMTPSA (Nemesis) id 1MnakX-1keEhQ0suz-00jdZ8; Mon, 20 Jul 2020 11:10:49 +0200 From: Stephen Berman To: Lars Ingebrigtsen Subject: Re: bug#23966: 25.1.50; Frame resizing due to tool bar + Gnus References: <87vb09u40u.fsf@gmx.net> <57867BB6.1020601@gmx.at> <87r3axtkcf.fsf@gmx.net> <578754F3.9060800@gmx.at> <87a8hkpmq8.fsf@gmx.net> <5787CCF5.3000404@gmx.at> <87eg6wghgl.fsf@gmx.net> <874lkgtqnk.fsf@mouse.gnus.org> <87h8ofcvqb.fsf@gmx.net> <87wo2zmr20.fsf@gnus.org> Date: Mon, 20 Jul 2020 11:10:48 +0200 In-Reply-To: <87wo2zmr20.fsf@gnus.org> (Lars Ingebrigtsen's message of "Sun, 19 Jul 2020 18:02:15 +0200") Message-ID: <87eep6a6w7.fsf@rub.de> User-Agent: Gnus/5.13 (Gnus v5.13) Emacs/28.0.50 (gnu/linux) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain X-Provags-ID: V03:K1:+2Q274Gi9fV1xmnPsgig9M6BS4Rj1XwFcu/mnn2+pW8k7k57yj2 UM4Xt7h/B6lMlkGVyx9Y61nBjaPP8Bbb4YFjzAzXNWVvKUStUsx0mfhdIw77t/BE8XMuqez lmwW5P159ORei9dkxb9KleNRAQoQqt9swyv2pT/wlCawYNfwS9fwq/sOX798NT6ejJN2hyf gt0QAdBp9gzvNDW1cOaLA== X-Spam-Flag: NO X-UI-Out-Filterresults: notjunk:1;V03:K0:2b2hmpCfjDE=:N/xCd6Eq0L37mGOHENkvDb fxrpcFuDexa67RorIAWMyRzWC0W/bFOpZmXr+mZxZIxGhvFU6SiUVNXRI21wi3TFM7kljrMjE /yXKSmPdMYhC5Qf/CFOB4nz+3KRCL3nF8/2Wfl2N9m2IUlFouLqBN3SV8J9zsJdmEbEQ4j9V5 26HyGpdrEkqGoSo+sUEiUzL3k2Quq0HbRBpCJBs7JptjoSVuhQ9AvlPJuBo5ueXaiIRY1XZCu 7dj/LORSPdNUq4JCx+LFEwnsn9v8uWhwmAspmxF5JMe+pCtUn6FQMyuYdjBw2SUe/ftqgFInE ylvQ0TNokAb/vcchS3/Oo16XhCaUCY97Bzp2A255ABG7Z7KAQOGHBiH8fvVp1Fu+yBroLM/6H WB9RhMAVFjIlM0H7mtEWmSN3QitS4FvLaZlo0TiSXeG8J2TxgXNC3pNC9d0ASoj7XPCYSNSiS x+SPDdnzNYsVEai95r04ggW8e9V/ZWyUgArBJh9G/aFlpR+duHJSBaZsp7CD3ktDWgJ0CNnpa cKJU56FBPELAE+I56vVxoq7+U1DYhD1JpPvZEHnckNXUpEDZRtJ203QJVfpzcZU99w+Xj1MOo wRUCgLzTkeWkd/niP8cRkH2PzwDhllqFWyBKQs39v5vNqLx6hpg4F+RnU+p3AVFrKbDOLSoQe fJdT0iRov3DVKQm7KiHnGgoa82+LWdpA9pWvjxVFALxf4qgO/BBXIfy2j/VZZgng+Yf3rfUlj CL3HPaHuqye/Sl0Di6GS7SpnOqWAD7e8Gt6YK14FYTBAVPy961/O4BtOpYQllpwjgLKGzffVT +aG27E89JL2DowrNMCB2v3dZVyMRL+HA7APZq/bO13hTy+tpwt6pHDr15K6JUNop/of4tswSz +M0lyqvZMp88l41YvuDTeHIpf4yguXPwCX6phR2JwRiPtfV29aNasAVBooQNijFJdAu86U/iV 5Rsh+g3N8TNIjakJLXhLuol1ltMMYO7ugV726SsPt6aJQjEXasZdsE8SmsW/QCMSj/wi16EP8 PXPoksDcmdTxYkE0jOPDR3L1OKth/vj0nZHegP941C/Rzn+F3va0Dfgx9iuTObHgYkc3yCmgu YUMap+sVG/J7MpiEGPWRdXCMwX2KAghUwim6s/e3iKPZKmvANLTb6L9uT2ajmqf/fEBUJJZSo stOotfybcxrDDZeoHdGxGRIFfWqP6JqL7ItGIsbjkPsaUVfObRZ7PhqPQSOlKfupWQ73GvEas tsd4aLohUhYt1ELSaZqi6sEqRPHyhjsOWKY5w8Q== X-Spam-Score: -0.7 (/) X-Debbugs-Envelope-To: 23966 Cc: martin rudalics , 23966@debbugs.gnu.org X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18 Precedence: list List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Sender: "Debbugs-submit" X-Spam-Score: -1.7 (-) On Sun, 19 Jul 2020 18:02:15 +0200 Lars Ingebrigtsen wrote: > OK, I'm trying to reproduce this in Emacs 28, and... I'm getting all > kinds of strangeness. > > I usually don't use tool bars, but if I just enter a summary mode buffer > and say M-x tool-bar-mode, then I don't actually get a tool bar -- I > just get a ~10-pixel high grey stripe at the top. > > This may be because gnus-summary-tool-bar is > 'gnus-summary-tool-bar-retro? > > If, on the other hand, I switch tool-bar-mode on before starting Gnus, > then I do get a tool bar, and that variable is > 'gnus-summary-tool-bar-gnome. > > This is because > > (defcustom gnus-summary-tool-bar (if (eq gmm-tool-bar-style 'gnome) > 'gnus-summary-tool-bar-gnome > 'gnus-summary-tool-bar-retro) > > and > > (defcustom gmm-tool-bar-style > (if (and (boundp 'tool-bar-mode) > tool-bar-mode > (not (memq (display-visual-class) > (list 'static-gray 'gray-scale > 'static-color 'pseudo-color)))) > 'gnome > 'retro) > "Preferred tool bar style." > :type '(choice (const :tag "GNOME style" gnome) > (const :tag "Retro look" retro)) > :group 'gmm) > > so that's set at load time, and depends on whether you've switched tool > bar mode on or not before loading the file. Which seems less than > optimal... > > Anyway, is this a different bug than what you were all talking about? > :-) It seems like the same bug, or at least related. In any case, when I run the test code Martin posted in <578754F3.9060800@gmx.at> on a currentish (2020-07-01) build from master, I get similar but not identical results to those I got two years ago: Emacs started; frame pixel height: 612 toolbar height: 41 Gnus started; frame pixel height: 612 toolbar height: 41 Opening nnfolder server on archive...done Subscribe newsgroup: nnfolder+archive:sent Subscribe newsgroup: nnfolder+archive:## Subscribe newsgroup: nnfolder+archive:emacs-personal 3 new newsgroups have arrived Checking new news... Reading active file via nnnil...done Reading active file from archive via nnfolder...done Checking new news...done Opening nndoc server on /home/steve/tool-bar-Gnus-frame-bug...done Tool bar disabled; frame pixel height: 612 toolbar height: 0 Entered Summary buffer; frame pixel height: 612 toolbar height: 0 Tool bar enabled; frame pixel height: 646 toolbar height: 7 Other buffer; frame pixel height: 646 toolbar height: 41 Back to Summary buffer; frame pixel height: 680 toolbar height: 7 Final; frame pixel height: 680 toolbar height: 41 Moreover, I get these exact same results regardless of whether frame-resize-pixelwise it nil or t, which is different from two years ago, and also when I set gmm-tool-bar-style to 'gnome or gnus-summary-tool-bar to 'gnus-summary-tool-bar-gnome before evaluating the test code. Steve Berman From debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Mon Jul 20 05:31:29 2020 Received: (at 23966) by debbugs.gnu.org; 20 Jul 2020 09:31:29 +0000 Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:33783 helo=debbugs.gnu.org) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1jxS8u-00032M-MN for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Mon, 20 Jul 2020 05:31:29 -0400 Received: from quimby.gnus.org ([95.216.78.240]:42876) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1jxS8t-000328-6j for 23966@debbugs.gnu.org; Mon, 20 Jul 2020 05:31:28 -0400 DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; q=dns/txt; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gnus.org; s=20200322; h=Content-Type:MIME-Version:Message-ID:In-Reply-To:Date: References:Subject:Cc:To:From:Sender:Reply-To:Content-Transfer-Encoding: Content-ID:Content-Description:Resent-Date:Resent-From:Resent-Sender: Resent-To:Resent-Cc:Resent-Message-ID:List-Id:List-Help:List-Unsubscribe: List-Subscribe:List-Post:List-Owner:List-Archive; bh=P2haEPu7gbqMAf9QJV32eK+W3foZ7ckcRuqvWI9jOWI=; b=U8w4zeQ3cEsIaPwZTyxq26uYHE U2dHhq+nFcHw5d39qPcFl4exFORIX11bSWTDLvcBKsXu0Twq8S3UnuUrGY8Azj8OWodSXgDu51Bf2 j0VHbWMSfVaeacQnkRD7A6/ohmOGBuAfyFD4aJHSh3lE2yQeFQj5zNFLa+XV98rTvhZc=; Received: from cm-84.212.202.86.getinternet.no ([84.212.202.86] helo=xo) by quimby with esmtpsa (TLS1.3:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.92) (envelope-from ) id 1jxS8j-0006p6-Hg; Mon, 20 Jul 2020 11:31:20 +0200 From: Lars Ingebrigtsen To: Stephen Berman Subject: Re: bug#23966: 25.1.50; Frame resizing due to tool bar + Gnus References: <87vb09u40u.fsf@gmx.net> <57867BB6.1020601@gmx.at> <87r3axtkcf.fsf@gmx.net> <578754F3.9060800@gmx.at> <87a8hkpmq8.fsf@gmx.net> <5787CCF5.3000404@gmx.at> <87eg6wghgl.fsf@gmx.net> <874lkgtqnk.fsf@mouse.gnus.org> <87h8ofcvqb.fsf@gmx.net> <87wo2zmr20.fsf@gnus.org> <87eep6a6w7.fsf@rub.de> Date: Mon, 20 Jul 2020 11:31:16 +0200 In-Reply-To: <87eep6a6w7.fsf@rub.de> (Stephen Berman's message of "Mon, 20 Jul 2020 11:10:48 +0200") Message-ID: <87blkajzx7.fsf@gnus.org> User-Agent: Gnus/5.13 (Gnus v5.13) Emacs/28.0.50 (gnu/linux) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain X-Spam-Report: Spam detection software, running on the system "quimby.gnus.org", has NOT identified this incoming email as spam. The original message has been attached to this so you can view it or label similar future email. If you have any questions, see @@CONTACT_ADDRESS@@ for details. Content preview: Stephen Berman writes: > Moreover, I get these exact same results regardless of whether > frame-resize-pixelwise it nil or t, which is different from two years > ago, and also when I set gmm-tool-bar-style to 'gnome or > gn [...] Content analysis details: (-2.9 points, 5.0 required) pts rule name description ---- ---------------------- -------------------------------------------------- -1.0 ALL_TRUSTED Passed through trusted hosts only via SMTP -1.9 BAYES_00 BODY: Bayes spam probability is 0 to 1% [score: 0.0000] X-Spam-Score: 0.0 (/) X-Debbugs-Envelope-To: 23966 Cc: martin rudalics , 23966@debbugs.gnu.org X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18 Precedence: list List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Sender: "Debbugs-submit" X-Spam-Score: -1.0 (-) Stephen Berman writes: > Moreover, I get these exact same results regardless of whether > frame-resize-pixelwise it nil or t, which is different from two years > ago, and also when I set gmm-tool-bar-style to 'gnome or > gnus-summary-tool-bar to 'gnus-summary-tool-bar-gnome before evaluating > the test code. If you switch tool-bar-mode on before starting Gnus (well, before loading anything else), do you get a proper tool bar in Gnus buffers? In that case, I think we're seeing the same thing... -- (domestic pets only, the antidote for overdose, milk.) bloggy blog: http://lars.ingebrigtsen.no From debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Mon Jul 20 05:34:08 2020 Received: (at 23966) by debbugs.gnu.org; 20 Jul 2020 09:34:08 +0000 Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:33792 helo=debbugs.gnu.org) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1jxSBU-00036r-Fh for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Mon, 20 Jul 2020 05:34:08 -0400 Received: from quimby.gnus.org ([95.216.78.240]:42904) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1jxSBS-00036D-Do for 23966@debbugs.gnu.org; Mon, 20 Jul 2020 05:34:06 -0400 DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; q=dns/txt; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gnus.org; s=20200322; h=Content-Type:MIME-Version:Message-ID:In-Reply-To:Date: References:Subject:Cc:To:From:Sender:Reply-To:Content-Transfer-Encoding: Content-ID:Content-Description:Resent-Date:Resent-From:Resent-Sender: Resent-To:Resent-Cc:Resent-Message-ID:List-Id:List-Help:List-Unsubscribe: List-Subscribe:List-Post:List-Owner:List-Archive; bh=7KzkIOGs6avGgyoK/uUC18/hkCIyQ4y2NjgHhyobBXw=; b=ACQDf+70JY1XDAZRfhKu8eYu1x gePMk9hQg1yKFsxyPKfISmGjnJHPOCCQTOPVh4vPUl9HpQK1kfqIo9Y5bDaaMfqLELt8gGhxECU2X 7ilGehjwmt4wqf0az6uISuIvW51jc76Gc9hjMKCGRXYyj72+P07DQaKmh4hO02PM6mjc=; Received: from cm-84.212.202.86.getinternet.no ([84.212.202.86] helo=xo) by quimby with esmtpsa (TLS1.3:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.92) (envelope-from ) id 1jxSBK-0006pl-3e; Mon, 20 Jul 2020 11:34:00 +0200 From: Lars Ingebrigtsen To: Stephen Berman Subject: Re: bug#23966: 25.1.50; Frame resizing due to tool bar + Gnus References: <87vb09u40u.fsf@gmx.net> <57867BB6.1020601@gmx.at> <87r3axtkcf.fsf@gmx.net> <578754F3.9060800@gmx.at> <87a8hkpmq8.fsf@gmx.net> <5787CCF5.3000404@gmx.at> <87eg6wghgl.fsf@gmx.net> <874lkgtqnk.fsf@mouse.gnus.org> <87h8ofcvqb.fsf@gmx.net> <87wo2zmr20.fsf@gnus.org> <87eep6a6w7.fsf@rub.de> Date: Mon, 20 Jul 2020 11:33:56 +0200 In-Reply-To: <87eep6a6w7.fsf@rub.de> (Stephen Berman's message of "Mon, 20 Jul 2020 11:10:48 +0200") Message-ID: <877duyjzsr.fsf@gnus.org> User-Agent: Gnus/5.13 (Gnus v5.13) Emacs/28.0.50 (gnu/linux) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain X-Spam-Report: Spam detection software, running on the system "quimby.gnus.org", has NOT identified this incoming email as spam. The original message has been attached to this so you can view it or label similar future email. If you have any questions, see @@CONTACT_ADDRESS@@ for details. Content preview: Hm! If I call (gnus-summary-make-tool-bar) after switching tool-bar-mode on (in the summary buffer), I then get a proper tool bar. Content analysis details: (-2.9 points, 5.0 required) pts rule name description ---- ---------------------- -------------------------------------------------- -1.0 ALL_TRUSTED Passed through trusted hosts only via SMTP -1.9 BAYES_00 BODY: Bayes spam probability is 0 to 1% [score: 0.0000] X-Spam-Score: 0.0 (/) X-Debbugs-Envelope-To: 23966 Cc: martin rudalics , 23966@debbugs.gnu.org X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18 Precedence: list List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Sender: "Debbugs-submit" X-Spam-Score: -1.0 (-) Hm! If I call (gnus-summary-make-tool-bar) after switching tool-bar-mode on (in the summary buffer), I then get a proper tool bar. -- (domestic pets only, the antidote for overdose, milk.) bloggy blog: http://lars.ingebrigtsen.no From debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Mon Jul 20 05:43:17 2020 Received: (at 23966) by debbugs.gnu.org; 20 Jul 2020 09:43:17 +0000 Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:33822 helo=debbugs.gnu.org) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1jxSKL-0003LU-IT for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Mon, 20 Jul 2020 05:43:17 -0400 Received: from quimby.gnus.org ([95.216.78.240]:43402) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1jxSKK-0003LI-1t for 23966@debbugs.gnu.org; Mon, 20 Jul 2020 05:43:16 -0400 DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; q=dns/txt; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gnus.org; s=20200322; h=Content-Type:MIME-Version:Message-ID:In-Reply-To:Date: References:Subject:Cc:To:From:Sender:Reply-To:Content-Transfer-Encoding: Content-ID:Content-Description:Resent-Date:Resent-From:Resent-Sender: Resent-To:Resent-Cc:Resent-Message-ID:List-Id:List-Help:List-Unsubscribe: List-Subscribe:List-Post:List-Owner:List-Archive; bh=sJ+oVpWXG86BeVEHUUwTW5i+jhyyJruvqvBRQ+TPlhk=; b=WCxnxWiCsMD+KARe69kZg1HQE4 jJmHQH2YSJ6o0w+BD6AYEHZATrG7oip+eg9IOwaq05cgRKjbZK1zGajGw+o3h02+VoLJx3y5cghIu AIQVwsPUjFdb92GI0RQxcFbpDCGwtvON0RCl6rqE/X4cdYeusjHYvrmtz0fGgw+0ghl0=; Received: from cm-84.212.202.86.getinternet.no ([84.212.202.86] helo=xo) by quimby with esmtpsa (TLS1.3:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.92) (envelope-from ) id 1jxSKB-000729-Pz; Mon, 20 Jul 2020 11:43:10 +0200 From: Lars Ingebrigtsen To: Stephen Berman Subject: Re: bug#23966: 25.1.50; Frame resizing due to tool bar + Gnus References: <87vb09u40u.fsf@gmx.net> <57867BB6.1020601@gmx.at> <87r3axtkcf.fsf@gmx.net> <578754F3.9060800@gmx.at> <87a8hkpmq8.fsf@gmx.net> <5787CCF5.3000404@gmx.at> <87eg6wghgl.fsf@gmx.net> <874lkgtqnk.fsf@mouse.gnus.org> <87h8ofcvqb.fsf@gmx.net> <87wo2zmr20.fsf@gnus.org> <87eep6a6w7.fsf@rub.de> <877duyjzsr.fsf@gnus.org> Date: Mon, 20 Jul 2020 11:43:06 +0200 In-Reply-To: <877duyjzsr.fsf@gnus.org> (Lars Ingebrigtsen's message of "Mon, 20 Jul 2020 11:33:56 +0200") Message-ID: <87y2neikt1.fsf@gnus.org> User-Agent: Gnus/5.13 (Gnus v5.13) Emacs/28.0.50 (gnu/linux) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain X-Spam-Report: Spam detection software, running on the system "quimby.gnus.org", has NOT identified this incoming email as spam. The original message has been attached to this so you can view it or label similar future email. If you have any questions, see @@CONTACT_ADDRESS@@ for details. Content preview: As somebody who doesn't use tool bars normally, I'm wondering -- do we really need two different tool bar styles in Gnus? Can't we just rip out the `retro' stuff and thing will possibly be less confus [...] Content analysis details: (-2.9 points, 5.0 required) pts rule name description ---- ---------------------- -------------------------------------------------- -1.0 ALL_TRUSTED Passed through trusted hosts only via SMTP -1.9 BAYES_00 BODY: Bayes spam probability is 0 to 1% [score: 0.0000] X-Spam-Score: 0.0 (/) X-Debbugs-Envelope-To: 23966 Cc: 23966@debbugs.gnu.org X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18 Precedence: list List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Sender: "Debbugs-submit" X-Spam-Score: -1.0 (-) As somebody who doesn't use tool bars normally, I'm wondering -- do we really need two different tool bar styles in Gnus? Can't we just rip out the `retro' stuff and thing will possibly be less confusing? -- (domestic pets only, the antidote for overdose, milk.) bloggy blog: http://lars.ingebrigtsen.no From debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Mon Jul 20 05:51:10 2020 Received: (at 23966) by debbugs.gnu.org; 20 Jul 2020 09:51:10 +0000 Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:33866 helo=debbugs.gnu.org) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1jxSRy-0003ZC-Ds for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Mon, 20 Jul 2020 05:51:10 -0400 Received: from mout.gmx.net ([212.227.15.18]:58511) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1jxSRt-0003YG-71 for 23966@debbugs.gnu.org; Mon, 20 Jul 2020 05:51:08 -0400 DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/simple; d=gmx.net; s=badeba3b8450; t=1595238658; bh=MODNB40Xx2b8Lrrlu+gPZBrQcWccu69ZdYlwXo8FkkE=; h=X-UI-Sender-Class:From:To:Cc:Subject:References:Date:In-Reply-To; b=elmvPfxSjIWw/Q4ZapJhXBs+SBboKOnhvdx+gZJ6fAGcdYPWL4tBtY4KGTK54xD8Q H9131CVtcFy9ARz0bKGoCuqIsQCpS0t2OwpH6jTVsQNugk5wMCTTl9sZGtr9Uf0vr6 oM3N0iRAcAposk/H+75N3Z91td36bKv9aBeZCGUM= X-UI-Sender-Class: 01bb95c1-4bf8-414a-932a-4f6e2808ef9c Received: from strobe-jhalfs ([178.9.98.4]) by mail.gmx.com (mrgmx004 [212.227.17.190]) with ESMTPSA (Nemesis) id 1MqJqD-1kbS6r1ljP-00nUIh; Mon, 20 Jul 2020 11:50:58 +0200 From: Stephen Berman To: Lars Ingebrigtsen Subject: Re: bug#23966: 25.1.50; Frame resizing due to tool bar + Gnus References: <87vb09u40u.fsf@gmx.net> <57867BB6.1020601@gmx.at> <87r3axtkcf.fsf@gmx.net> <578754F3.9060800@gmx.at> <87a8hkpmq8.fsf@gmx.net> <5787CCF5.3000404@gmx.at> <87eg6wghgl.fsf@gmx.net> <874lkgtqnk.fsf@mouse.gnus.org> <87h8ofcvqb.fsf@gmx.net> <87wo2zmr20.fsf@gnus.org> <87eep6a6w7.fsf@rub.de> <87blkajzx7.fsf@gnus.org> Date: Mon, 20 Jul 2020 11:50:57 +0200 In-Reply-To: <87blkajzx7.fsf@gnus.org> (Lars Ingebrigtsen's message of "Mon, 20 Jul 2020 11:31:16 +0200") Message-ID: <877duya51a.fsf@rub.de> User-Agent: Gnus/5.13 (Gnus v5.13) Emacs/28.0.50 (gnu/linux) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain X-Provags-ID: V03:K1:1e8sBvNVdQo8T6Jpztg2yjCPKQSCQa9ZukAn7sAS3ZnrqKswU3m u244J5L+4VJJjwzqLPDghWuyxQSkG1/pWd3iojcYpEUb6ke+Kuu9HR8giMjDyY7Vdp9McrI d/Cr9/ahAdrZPFlFvGVdZWMX7fZA3K/SVb/spFKNe0PsV2sTwJ+O6cF/vrEtIK0pK/qF1g7 TrFE0PnvoCqDNxCVs7U9A== X-Spam-Flag: NO X-UI-Out-Filterresults: notjunk:1;V03:K0:++4aMbjYZQM=:sV5sVcUPjGdGJL7Nu4zLuP J4mXqsVfaRwIvdIn243JLIi7g706aKH7F4PFy0oqKMFCQIKLm5nq+Fpxp5Veskb+KFaDsKRVX nlJdboAPR7rFQwtRJo5m+iWhqxUsP9JAN4rSZbl9LtrJYFRWGg4Ix2sBNpFqn9Jei/COhU37Q Le7qebeRuZ8hPF2vG2m+WyROTFnf4AdKmnHRIMUT7bIOqZf8ZcImPWdhjdzvschnNBcl8hpXU dBGmu3noQLA6Wu4sIQ1lYn9shNEV9Jwl/ISCyeeDpeOK0tguqKlpiGwsdNU0R2Nnle3BRDaVQ jGwfwvsKbVHhDgD9p0DWCJGMOX4APFicCek/ptrpQfhy6iGXdkn8jNf7nKd7OA8XKSFV8iTHF z5PU6QMumx89Hzogg27m9UbXDwYcSJCaDkag8pD8/anSFfI+ME6Qv/Y6X0p3aCSR/P1SatW9o NKdA2RWTnHJTnKarM4FpPn9jpZLJIQG4w7ujWczgqT8ng4CIoPaJ9iDxs5aCV3a0lq/uO9FcO PrCK1In0SEnFvPv4UqiQaSUAO4ZHN5ShO/27qz2zFP7mh9RMKBVIaw9mpQGiQ2KW1bNJ10U/S doMZG/ctVhZVGYItRRoscQb6A2Ld4MLplYS6qh0B4Y7MpBOSE8sJns1pjh8gTMSl43XiYIdCl 3KSNjate61CUvAO+ZWLQkzYd+brFWFbnSSIMBsVNOop2FxVqR3hkQgdLLkdsgqhwayp992PvI ZGsBcOQdJ7EMRlS3rs8sYnFWSLaixdLNRXEJcc8lxyCFuGLr5MYV3G9ZC5DNLw6Uc534S70nz WdqT8I6p8PQUKRY/QdQExy6m6tgVGP50NCcUjnDi584DVfEhHveNQ7PDPLmb41D5spQ0OSGbD HyqbSii92rF4Ln7wD2gNcHs+r+DOpVZ2N0yc3M9gKpX6yDBGoJR+60YvFDySCRwK7IiXCQzxO gEBVfmWDnke0ZK6zTsC820CAdH2i/tx/RSRMLfzKZJIiHoQ45ngacB7NEJOlqdKHhzgrmB45Y dTpQXLkiKBNP/82uATNCia4sd9laJmjFBPM6/obc7gmh1P1ZgsrvhDszCc6cPeIKMu1pLTWNB bq1UQXg5RtOSAsd6nFcJ9oV7e3lzhGomdR7xU1Kpq2ZPd7SSYhRgGhpGb8Mz6r9rTlGeVOHZ4 yBGWlH72Z7G/T5F2KgmXe54tgBUqluGJ9r4jm1VPoW0KJZR0T/F6RiqXLc/vto1jkZsn6oK3m 5sAFj5G7WEJNa/DlNke0n5Xi/wxLZH/LR7rD5Tw== X-Spam-Score: -0.7 (/) X-Debbugs-Envelope-To: 23966 Cc: martin rudalics , Stephen Berman , 23966@debbugs.gnu.org X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18 Precedence: list List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Sender: "Debbugs-submit" X-Spam-Score: -1.7 (-) On Mon, 20 Jul 2020 11:31:16 +0200 Lars Ingebrigtsen wrote: > Stephen Berman writes: > >> Moreover, I get these exact same results regardless of whether >> frame-resize-pixelwise it nil or t, which is different from two years >> ago, and also when I set gmm-tool-bar-style to 'gnome or >> gnus-summary-tool-bar to 'gnus-summary-tool-bar-gnome before evaluating >> the test code. > > If you switch tool-bar-mode on before starting Gnus (well, before > loading anything else), do you get a proper tool bar in Gnus buffers? Yes. > In that case, I think we're seeing the same thing... On Mon, 20 Jul 2020 11:33:56 +0200 Lars Ingebrigtsen wrote: > Hm! If I call > > (gnus-summary-make-tool-bar) > > after switching tool-bar-mode on (in the summary buffer), I then get a > proper tool bar. Me too. On Mon, 20 Jul 2020 11:43:06 +0200 Lars Ingebrigtsen wrote: > As somebody who doesn't use tool bars normally, I'm wondering -- do we > really need two different tool bar styles in Gnus? Can't we just rip > out the `retro' stuff and thing will possibly be less confusing? I stopped regularly using tool bars a while ago, and even before I don't think I knew about the Gnus retro tool bar... so as far as I'm concerned, rip away! Steve Berman From debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Thu Jul 23 11:26:11 2020 Received: (at 23966) by debbugs.gnu.org; 23 Jul 2020 15:26:11 +0000 Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:45848 helo=debbugs.gnu.org) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1jyd6p-0004Bw-1U for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Thu, 23 Jul 2020 11:26:11 -0400 Received: from quimby.gnus.org ([95.216.78.240]:53908) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1jyd6m-0004Bh-Lb for 23966@debbugs.gnu.org; Thu, 23 Jul 2020 11:26:09 -0400 DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; q=dns/txt; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gnus.org; s=20200322; h=Content-Type:MIME-Version:Message-ID:In-Reply-To:Date: References:Subject:Cc:To:From:Sender:Reply-To:Content-Transfer-Encoding: Content-ID:Content-Description:Resent-Date:Resent-From:Resent-Sender: Resent-To:Resent-Cc:Resent-Message-ID:List-Id:List-Help:List-Unsubscribe: List-Subscribe:List-Post:List-Owner:List-Archive; bh=1GdOFg0sIj6cG/RbShCR6Gv6M1kWe1eFMqvLaU2Bn1k=; b=bXAhTsg53AQXROPOh94LVCt07n uSs9clRuRcs+MgWgOw16cMHaHgPjAYu1JuSJeMVkLsj592QAqf1NONrmlRX1w6rIxY39RNiVS0NR8 Ki5qPd/1TPGLNw5PJAtQp+aH0xl7q7Bm0bhOoUls/eL/MP/MkvNxCvyOuJ1mA1wbdtgc=; Received: from cm-84.212.202.86.getinternet.no ([84.212.202.86] helo=xo) by quimby with esmtpsa (TLS1.3:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.92) (envelope-from ) id 1jyd6Y-0007Oi-7R; Thu, 23 Jul 2020 17:26:02 +0200 From: Lars Ingebrigtsen To: Stephen Berman Subject: Re: bug#23966: 25.1.50; Frame resizing due to tool bar + Gnus References: <87vb09u40u.fsf@gmx.net> <57867BB6.1020601@gmx.at> <87r3axtkcf.fsf@gmx.net> <578754F3.9060800@gmx.at> <87a8hkpmq8.fsf@gmx.net> <5787CCF5.3000404@gmx.at> <87eg6wghgl.fsf@gmx.net> <874lkgtqnk.fsf@mouse.gnus.org> <87h8ofcvqb.fsf@gmx.net> <87wo2zmr20.fsf@gnus.org> <87eep6a6w7.fsf@rub.de> <87blkajzx7.fsf@gnus.org> <877duya51a.fsf@rub.de> Date: Thu, 23 Jul 2020 17:25:53 +0200 In-Reply-To: <877duya51a.fsf@rub.de> (Stephen Berman's message of "Mon, 20 Jul 2020 11:50:57 +0200") Message-ID: <87blk6l0ce.fsf@gnus.org> User-Agent: Gnus/5.13 (Gnus v5.13) Emacs/28.0.50 (gnu/linux) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain X-Spam-Report: Spam detection software, running on the system "quimby.gnus.org", has NOT identified this incoming email as spam. The original message has been attached to this so you can view it or label similar future email. If you have any questions, see @@CONTACT_ADDRESS@@ for details. Content preview: Stephen Berman writes: >> As somebody who doesn't use tool bars normally, I'm wondering -- do we >> really need two different tool bar styles in Gnus? Can't we just rip >> out the `retro' stuff and thing will possibly be le [...] Content analysis details: (-2.9 points, 5.0 required) pts rule name description ---- ---------------------- -------------------------------------------------- -1.0 ALL_TRUSTED Passed through trusted hosts only via SMTP -1.9 BAYES_00 BODY: Bayes spam probability is 0 to 1% [score: 0.0000] X-Spam-Score: 0.0 (/) X-Debbugs-Envelope-To: 23966 Cc: martin rudalics , 23966@debbugs.gnu.org X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18 Precedence: list List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Sender: "Debbugs-submit" X-Spam-Score: -1.0 (-) Stephen Berman writes: >> As somebody who doesn't use tool bars normally, I'm wondering -- do we >> really need two different tool bar styles in Gnus? Can't we just rip >> out the `retro' stuff and thing will possibly be less confusing? > > I stopped regularly using tool bars a while ago, and even before I don't > think I knew about the Gnus retro tool bar... so as far as I'm > concerned, rip away! I'm wondering whether the -gnome tool bare really are connected to Gnome in any way (i.e., they can only be used when Emacs is compiled with the gtk toolkit), or whether they're just "Gnome-style". If it's the latter, we can rip out the other ones, I guess, but not if it's the former... -- (domestic pets only, the antidote for overdose, milk.) bloggy blog: http://lars.ingebrigtsen.no From debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Tue Aug 04 05:29:57 2020 Received: (at 23966) by debbugs.gnu.org; 4 Aug 2020 09:29:58 +0000 Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:46820 helo=debbugs.gnu.org) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1k2tGf-0001uJ-Lk for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Tue, 04 Aug 2020 05:29:57 -0400 Received: from quimby.gnus.org ([95.216.78.240]:53952) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1k2tGe-0001u5-3R for 23966@debbugs.gnu.org; Tue, 04 Aug 2020 05:29:56 -0400 DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; q=dns/txt; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gnus.org; s=20200322; h=Content-Type:MIME-Version:Message-ID:In-Reply-To:Date: References:Subject:Cc:To:From:Sender:Reply-To:Content-Transfer-Encoding: Content-ID:Content-Description:Resent-Date:Resent-From:Resent-Sender: Resent-To:Resent-Cc:Resent-Message-ID:List-Id:List-Help:List-Unsubscribe: List-Subscribe:List-Post:List-Owner:List-Archive; bh=mOrGi6ArycXsN7fX5WSjcrsu3Y/JWuhfDyZTsefrAZo=; b=GDcA2xxGABKV5kOkg8iGgWjI2m F6tfnVUhTVOdrVoq9IVLQwo+CLlmA5gDOm7hjDMHmL0t5SWg/Kzsv0p4N6jvrBh3CrawgqJTKMV5S ixkA5IT8nPLsl7PYCqLoforF/7bRhYgB0iqMEY7a6Q5Nonczf/nxl20ZeEadm0tbhNfY=; Received: from cm-84.212.202.86.getinternet.no ([84.212.202.86] helo=xo) by quimby with esmtpsa (TLS1.3:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.92) (envelope-from ) id 1k2tGU-0006Ar-St; Tue, 04 Aug 2020 11:29:49 +0200 From: Lars Ingebrigtsen To: Stephen Berman Subject: Re: bug#23966: 25.1.50; Frame resizing due to tool bar + Gnus References: <87vb09u40u.fsf@gmx.net> <57867BB6.1020601@gmx.at> <87r3axtkcf.fsf@gmx.net> <578754F3.9060800@gmx.at> <87a8hkpmq8.fsf@gmx.net> <5787CCF5.3000404@gmx.at> <87eg6wghgl.fsf@gmx.net> <874lkgtqnk.fsf@mouse.gnus.org> <87h8ofcvqb.fsf@gmx.net> <87wo2zmr20.fsf@gnus.org> <87eep6a6w7.fsf@rub.de> <877duyjzsr.fsf@gnus.org> <87y2neikt1.fsf@gnus.org> Date: Tue, 04 Aug 2020 11:29:45 +0200 In-Reply-To: <87y2neikt1.fsf@gnus.org> (Lars Ingebrigtsen's message of "Mon, 20 Jul 2020 11:43:06 +0200") Message-ID: <87mu3arc6u.fsf@gnus.org> User-Agent: Gnus/5.13 (Gnus v5.13) Emacs/28.0.50 (gnu/linux) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain X-Spam-Report: Spam detection software, running on the system "quimby.gnus.org", has NOT identified this incoming email as spam. The original message has been attached to this so you can view it or label similar future email. If you have any questions, see @@CONTACT_ADDRESS@@ for details. Content preview: Lars Ingebrigtsen writes: > As somebody who doesn't use tool bars normally, I'm wondering -- do we > really need two different tool bar styles in Gnus? Can't we just rip > out the `retro' stuff and thing will possibly be less [...] Content analysis details: (-2.9 points, 5.0 required) pts rule name description ---- ---------------------- -------------------------------------------------- -1.0 ALL_TRUSTED Passed through trusted hosts only via SMTP -1.9 BAYES_00 BODY: Bayes spam probability is 0 to 1% [score: 0.0000] X-Spam-Score: 0.0 (/) X-Debbugs-Envelope-To: 23966 Cc: 23966@debbugs.gnu.org, ding@gnus.org X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18 Precedence: list List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Sender: "Debbugs-submit" X-Spam-Score: -1.0 (-) Lars Ingebrigtsen writes: > As somebody who doesn't use tool bars normally, I'm wondering -- do we > really need two different tool bar styles in Gnus? Can't we just rip > out the `retro' stuff and thing will possibly be less confusing? Perhaps somebody on the Gnus mailing list has some input here. To recap -- there's some bugs in enabling the Summary mode tool bar, because there's some setup being done at Gnus load time. This can be fixed, I'm just wondering whether the proper fix here is to simplify the code. There's currently two tool bars for Gnus summary mode: gnus-summary-tool-bar-retro gnus-summary-tool-bar-gnome I propose to get rid of the -retro one. Does anybody object to that? Or is the -gnome tool bar really specific to Gnome, and it won't work on other OS-es or something? -- (domestic pets only, the antidote for overdose, milk.) bloggy blog: http://lars.ingebrigtsen.no From debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Sat Apr 30 12:18:21 2022 Received: (at 23966) by debbugs.gnu.org; 30 Apr 2022 16:18:21 +0000 Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:58909 helo=debbugs.gnu.org) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1nkpnZ-0004YP-1c for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Sat, 30 Apr 2022 12:18:21 -0400 Received: from quimby.gnus.org ([95.216.78.240]:49714) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1nkpnW-0004Y6-S0 for 23966@debbugs.gnu.org; Sat, 30 Apr 2022 12:18:19 -0400 DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; q=dns/txt; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gnus.org; s=20200322; h=Content-Type:MIME-Version:Message-ID:In-Reply-To:Date: References:Subject:Cc:To:From:Sender:Reply-To:Content-Transfer-Encoding: Content-ID:Content-Description:Resent-Date:Resent-From:Resent-Sender: Resent-To:Resent-Cc:Resent-Message-ID:List-Id:List-Help:List-Unsubscribe: List-Subscribe:List-Post:List-Owner:List-Archive; bh=kSJeJbsJCsL/eJ8fTwpVsP/axZo+WUVmSyD+uJi8Bho=; b=PI1c7285yIzhdRIyZ8yLQugvkh zmDm21wnH099MrN+uHDjZ/pSot/3l9hj7EYxcy/GsnSmagDm/svj21p10XJdUDaWxgsgoUHw3SAtb qdbtJbWneEVLukz+mPZqJ3Nsf5+1q5LPT5t0Cemld3zwyf1Y1TM9GCxKjNSBgrcLl2PA=; Received: from [84.212.220.105] (helo=xo) by quimby.gnus.org with esmtpsa (TLS1.3:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.92) (envelope-from ) id 1nkpnM-0001Wx-Tm; Sat, 30 Apr 2022 18:18:11 +0200 From: Lars Ingebrigtsen To: Stephen Berman Subject: Re: bug#23966: 25.1.50; Frame resizing due to tool bar + Gnus References: <87vb09u40u.fsf@gmx.net> <57867BB6.1020601@gmx.at> <87r3axtkcf.fsf@gmx.net> <578754F3.9060800@gmx.at> <87a8hkpmq8.fsf@gmx.net> <5787CCF5.3000404@gmx.at> <87eg6wghgl.fsf@gmx.net> <874lkgtqnk.fsf@mouse.gnus.org> <87h8ofcvqb.fsf@gmx.net> <87wo2zmr20.fsf@gnus.org> <87eep6a6w7.fsf@rub.de> <877duyjzsr.fsf@gnus.org> <87y2neikt1.fsf@gnus.org> <87mu3arc6u.fsf@gnus.org> X-Now-Playing: Talking Heads's _The Name Of This Band Is Talking Heads_: "track" Date: Sat, 30 Apr 2022 18:18:06 +0200 In-Reply-To: <87mu3arc6u.fsf@gnus.org> (Lars Ingebrigtsen's message of "Tue, 04 Aug 2020 11:29:45 +0200") Message-ID: <87h76azgsh.fsf@gnus.org> User-Agent: Gnus/5.13 (Gnus v5.13) Emacs/29.0.50 (gnu/linux) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain X-Spam-Report: Spam detection software, running on the system "quimby.gnus.org", has NOT identified this incoming email as spam. The original message has been attached to this so you can view it or label similar future email. If you have any questions, see @@CONTACT_ADDRESS@@ for details. Content preview: Lars Ingebrigtsen writes: > I propose to get rid of the -retro one. Does anybody object to that? Nobody objected in a year, so I've now done so in Emacs 29. Content analysis details: (-2.9 points, 5.0 required) pts rule name description ---- ---------------------- -------------------------------------------------- -1.0 ALL_TRUSTED Passed through trusted hosts only via SMTP -1.9 BAYES_00 BODY: Bayes spam probability is 0 to 1% [score: 0.0000] X-Spam-Score: -2.3 (--) X-Debbugs-Envelope-To: 23966 Cc: 23966@debbugs.gnu.org, ding@gnus.org X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18 Precedence: list List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Sender: "Debbugs-submit" X-Spam-Score: -3.3 (---) Lars Ingebrigtsen writes: > I propose to get rid of the -retro one. Does anybody object to that? 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