From debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Thu Jul 07 03:56:56 2016 Received: (at submit) by debbugs.gnu.org; 7 Jul 2016 07:56:56 +0000 Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:40183 helo=debbugs.gnu.org) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1bL4B5-0001qx-Mi for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Thu, 07 Jul 2016 03:56:56 -0400 Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([208.118.235.92]:56697) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1bL4B4-0001ql-Bp for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Thu, 07 Jul 2016 03:56:54 -0400 Received: from Debian-exim by eggs.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1bL4Aw-00020G-Te for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Thu, 07 Jul 2016 03:56:49 -0400 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.3.2 (2011-06-06) on eggs.gnu.org X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=0.8 required=5.0 tests=BAYES_50,FREEMAIL_FROM, T_DKIM_INVALID autolearn=disabled version=3.3.2 Received: from lists.gnu.org ([2001:4830:134:3::11]:53233) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1bL4Aw-00020C-Po for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Thu, 07 Jul 2016 03:56:46 -0400 Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([2001:4830:134:3::10]:47614) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1bL4At-0005sr-L2 for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Thu, 07 Jul 2016 03:56:46 -0400 Received: from Debian-exim by eggs.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1bL4Ao-0001xL-JY for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Thu, 07 Jul 2016 03:56:42 -0400 Received: from mail-wm0-x231.google.com ([2a00:1450:400c:c09::231]:35880) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1bL4Ao-0001wm-5q for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Thu, 07 Jul 2016 03:56:38 -0400 Received: by mail-wm0-x231.google.com with SMTP id f126so199910120wma.1 for ; Thu, 07 Jul 2016 00:56:37 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20120113; h=user-agent:from:to:subject:date:message-id:mime-version; bh=rxMvcifw/6W6WsEwmrDbCijr6lX+caTILBquc5cGPaI=; b=Kl/E0OeTzyoOmyi1vEanv5430oQhKLOOARW+EBT8k/t/Vxb45zfa9CLb9qHhBZ/CUe WMrJ01xZJmcR9SxlTvQwAec18jdQyqOxLiTkGGNauPQhFhA+9hVx1EoqgXw80kH/E09A d4r7Wqqe7aDlQjSGZ+jYAPaCxsaEIvg5lmOuGRhfw5RALn7F+FP/NEaRqdv+sX+SsQeG y4VkRhLisATaglXP6A8wCpATCn4r49nxO1mGrcYNgrbLtzCLwyWUru6amlGbN4HyWnZN 0bWxGb2AnMXY5TyQib+QEL7RBCG9/3wR227/oiXDwtWGV41YlQBC5xXvTXk4p5GICEWN eG5g== X-Google-DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=1e100.net; s=20130820; h=x-gm-message-state:user-agent:from:to:subject:date:message-id :mime-version; bh=rxMvcifw/6W6WsEwmrDbCijr6lX+caTILBquc5cGPaI=; b=Lg0O3QJdEfEhp+f4iNg4iIjtJzgP0K1/B9lLgBQDljuvlK6MAkwG9zYV9DECZLijpU x2M5wZmFP/dviSmLDmRcEvEiy4SQ58v3wI/PMucPgWr61DvaZaT/YiEeL5CJRFlSkLDj ZqMDm5jMxHgxjRE45PZuWY0biqcywvael/8QNi/icxdSpwSiYebkGiEZospMhPS+DncH kRmTwpEEQkum+ghuXaeAPkwrhP8aphkMF2tURYx14RjX0ZEh0jQ+ItISE/nynBR7mu1T u3+SDgFDZI8hn2vNBaRbl49svmbyH6MAo5nEUbXhj/IVzCFxenbaB5Y8yoSx4BhTr1Zm 2cVQ== X-Gm-Message-State: ALyK8tJ5RupnnzvQScV9TtRNHmlcq6kamknlWd1cphJqvjdtQW4Wcq36P+0FRE/uhkuRBw== X-Received: by 10.194.123.166 with SMTP id mb6mr26866707wjb.94.1467878196546; Thu, 07 Jul 2016 00:56:36 -0700 (PDT) Received: from dell-14z ([37.162.119.118]) by smtp.gmail.com with ESMTPSA id a84sm3003845wma.0.2016.07.07.00.56.34 for (version=TLS1_2 cipher=AES128-SHA bits=128/128); Thu, 07 Jul 2016 00:56:35 -0700 (PDT) User-agent: mu4e 0.9.17; emacs 24.5.1 From: Thierry Volpiatto To: bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org Subject: 24.5; tramp-use-ssh-controlmaster-options default value Date: Thu, 07 Jul 2016 09:56:32 +0200 Message-ID: <87ziptop8v.fsf@gmail.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain X-detected-operating-system: by eggs.gnu.org: GNU/Linux 2.2.x-3.x [generic] X-detected-operating-system: by eggs.gnu.org: GNU/Linux 2.6.x X-Received-From: 2001:4830:134:3::11 X-Spam-Score: -4.0 (----) X-Debbugs-Envelope-To: submit X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18 Precedence: list List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Sender: "Debbugs-submit" X-Spam-Score: -4.0 (----) Hi, I see that `tramp-use-ssh-controlmaster-options` is still set to non-nil by default in emacs-25, for some reasons, this hang emacs when loading tramp with most recents versions of ubuntu and linuxmint and I have several bug reports about this in helm. What about disabling this by default ? Thanks. 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0M2ojS-1bbGC028JS-00sdoF; Thu, 07 Jul 2016 12:07:50 +0200 From: Michael Albinus To: Thierry Volpiatto Subject: Re: bug#23907: 24.5; tramp-use-ssh-controlmaster-options default value References: <87ziptop8v.fsf@gmail.com> Date: Thu, 07 Jul 2016 12:07:48 +0200 In-Reply-To: <87ziptop8v.fsf@gmail.com> (Thierry Volpiatto's message of "Thu, 07 Jul 2016 09:56:32 +0200") Message-ID: <87shvliwwb.fsf@gmx.de> User-Agent: Gnus/5.13 (Gnus v5.13) Emacs/25.1.50 (gnu/linux) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain X-Provags-ID: V03:K0:2yq35XICyM9nlP6qdMB90mzlWENCYiQ8pbHrPiRZLea8M3KA8Sk k9OZYEhzktdnYZc5Hq40at6fB3F820zkfNV/Vd9Y4ftsE/xMAcoPoC/Z/CQzbxPm2v8M3Ss /ZHrFpbrkRWa64tmLpAUHvU3Fb3XGf7dk+HthBgFmslJKj7hHd6IaFKjUXLrbRL95sMhklz +UjrsvmyOp0a7jk8D1hVg== X-UI-Out-Filterresults: notjunk:1;V01:K0:9cV+vUzfE7U=:/W2jndXmF4ra+2kfidmwcL RfPwHFy4yihoN0qkSgzcYClCQs2McaQONYFc8cY3UyoByeVsGdUi/VRs8bYbvxsWKqBUsLtFr vWZrUqo1ubec6zzyz+tCvUE+d+eMcO65r9Srn1MkB62irK234Uh3x6/7j3Lr9OIK3+AynKQU5 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X-Spam-Score: -0.7 (/) Thierry Volpiatto writes: Hi Thierry, > Hi, I see that `tramp-use-ssh-controlmaster-options` is still set to > non-nil by default in emacs-25, for some reasons, this hang emacs when > loading tramp with most recents versions of ubuntu and linuxmint and I > have several bug reports about this in helm. > > What about disabling this by default ? Before going to this, I would like to understand what happens. Could you, please, ask helm users to set tramp-verbose to 6, and to send us the Tramp debug buffer? > Thanks. Thanks, and best regards, Michael. From debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Thu Jul 07 07:03:30 2016 Received: (at 23907) by debbugs.gnu.org; 7 Jul 2016 11:03:30 +0000 Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:40260 helo=debbugs.gnu.org) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1bL75e-0007s3-Dt for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Thu, 07 Jul 2016 07:03:30 -0400 Received: from mail-wm0-f46.google.com ([74.125.82.46]:36557) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1bL75Z-0007ro-ST for 23907@debbugs.gnu.org; Thu, 07 Jul 2016 07:03:28 -0400 Received: by mail-wm0-f46.google.com with SMTP id f126so205981397wma.1 for <23907@debbugs.gnu.org>; Thu, 07 Jul 2016 04:03:25 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20120113; h=user-agent:from:to:cc:subject:in-reply-to:date:message-id :mime-version; bh=Ke929MsOiaqAygdbwtEX8m7cWrVIY0IqHqeAH8GuGWg=; b=vAovC6sPEHu3pl6tTL9c15toaQyorhn5te80epTOt4xNpmDxmj670668WVxq1E7x94 /L4d3dGx5x5kYnV1vtv7ijp89jQQ51IRE0uSOXR1084IyaPcXdCcRe8IL/AoqySKt8ry lA0YTkUX2fjyHSUSC7JTra9io16f98yBHodrwVZ/0Gh/fjGktaIBm9gGg68ttLhW/T5y v0uYMz26fxOHid40DEo8uQ9IywVwq27X4hQjnMgz7YlOuc0NgMfsxK+TFWVwt1npqDbZ 0RvSAVjFy/uUY0bfNDtgDQwH4uloCFUveAXRNHWfm1WXGVn2iPsN7YzvuJ7dnUyJqqoW cbTg== X-Google-DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=1e100.net; s=20130820; h=x-gm-message-state:user-agent:from:to:cc:subject:in-reply-to:date :message-id:mime-version; bh=Ke929MsOiaqAygdbwtEX8m7cWrVIY0IqHqeAH8GuGWg=; b=Kyfk+WHopEfLh8U+50SqsNgBJmGTXXPHqkKqi4uCoWLeE58KyXocJFvVXg8QNmKd4W WKs9K/+0SLVUcm1ZYwkguOGFkEX+AmYN+h761ACCPKs5/xl4J6DlZPiUDksQoEEvHZX8 cDPGTdFMwVghXUz3mVgzp79sNZaEe8aLRu2/NsmKgdyDUgMkAalkYOAKftfuXtODaEkF f6trJsrSLqaQBvqkmULTnU0dQpWcibgE8N4vNDpMKM1OdH9t04D/oA9cXe9gmbVkxHVt zayAR7//swRX9GDlPERZ7Pl5GE/Jurtg+jOWMBsgSF8YPvVbub/dFA+YayIXFRDzDtrq 0TVw== X-Gm-Message-State: ALyK8tI+2DUzeZa9Ubc/j7z1IhwmXNfxZo6HSgsyYxdnEa+AKqfQBirtcq5vu2pKeyWonA== X-Received: by 10.194.233.9 with SMTP id ts9mr27407818wjc.87.1467889400062; Thu, 07 Jul 2016 04:03:20 -0700 (PDT) Received: from dell-14z ([37.162.119.118]) by smtp.gmail.com with ESMTPSA id yo9sm4592154wjb.26.2016.07.07.04.03.18 (version=TLS1_2 cipher=AES128-SHA bits=128/128); Thu, 07 Jul 2016 04:03:18 -0700 (PDT) User-agent: mu4e 0.9.17; emacs 24.5.1 From: Thierry Volpiatto To: Michael Albinus Subject: Re: bug#23907: 24.5; tramp-use-ssh-controlmaster-options default value In-reply-to: <87shvliwwb.fsf@gmx.de> Date: Thu, 07 Jul 2016 13:03:16 +0200 Message-ID: <87y45diubv.fsf@gmail.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain X-Spam-Score: -0.7 (/) X-Debbugs-Envelope-To: 23907 Cc: 23907@debbugs.gnu.org X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18 Precedence: list List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Sender: "Debbugs-submit" X-Spam-Score: -0.7 (/) Michael Albinus writes: > Thierry Volpiatto writes: > > Hi Thierry, > >> Hi, I see that `tramp-use-ssh-controlmaster-options` is still set to >> non-nil by default in emacs-25, for some reasons, this hang emacs when >> loading tramp with most recents versions of ubuntu and linuxmint and I >> have several bug reports about this in helm. >> >> What about disabling this by default ? > > Before going to this, I would like to understand what happens. See https://github.com/emacs-helm/helm/issues/1000 However even if you see what is happening, don't you think such a check should happen when tramp kickin and not when it is loading ? IMHO it is not reasonable to make an ssh call when loading tramp.el or whatever. > Could you, please, ask helm users to set tramp-verbose to 6, and to > send us the Tramp debug buffer? Done, as soon as one send a debug buffer I will notify you here. You can also followup here: https://github.com/emacs-helm/helm/issues/1554 Thanks. -- Thierry From debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Thu Jul 07 07:12:30 2016 Received: (at 23907) by debbugs.gnu.org; 7 Jul 2016 11:12:30 +0000 Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:40264 helo=debbugs.gnu.org) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1bL7EM-00083t-BQ for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Thu, 07 Jul 2016 07:12:30 -0400 Received: from mail-oi0-f53.google.com ([209.85.218.53]:34587) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1bL7EK-00083h-U8 for 23907@debbugs.gnu.org; Thu, 07 Jul 2016 07:12:29 -0400 Received: by mail-oi0-f53.google.com with SMTP id s66so18442016oif.1 for <23907@debbugs.gnu.org>; Thu, 07 Jul 2016 04:12:28 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20120113; h=mime-version:sender:in-reply-to:references:from:date:message-id :subject:to:cc; bh=Eh0gFDfMV7iIg2WIfbALHj8DitgR+ZZYquP32fIV3TA=; b=HTBNebBn65ShTDfpLfo5mPc/NzagXTSgVUTw2k803Y0O1vZ7QZuPrHQBpChIFRmnXT kXiXK0LrExAhhF5r0PH8uEgkV29GzTGFsi9rRjnTn3lqqwcYFThVSgsGbzRHVI+AoVmx c2OQx/5tzZlxfRsyY0V+0aPeY90nzPeQbAd5n3PE6tQQm/iTPiPmr6PlERKFZXT9gGZ0 oV3AMRbxP0iOcPYy77c7dgN0s24vSXgQl07xl2MrfgBNekuqgs+/c2CF8ua4FPDLYmRb 9kmn9zfa6H3EzPNuL+lnk4yLNnc2shxhtBELM8MO+OABqy65OLzUwiSgNrEjULAYUyYE NUoQ== X-Google-DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=1e100.net; s=20130820; h=x-gm-message-state:mime-version:sender:in-reply-to:references:from :date:message-id:subject:to:cc; bh=Eh0gFDfMV7iIg2WIfbALHj8DitgR+ZZYquP32fIV3TA=; b=OggPFSvot7i99YUFsUHDeEkaaVwEXKD0u9BI150RPfF0xaOzO/dIcc+KOhLGNZK33F P+q+phrIb4+kc7UqZBD17pCZpalFsLGNq2irk/NNBvePSpG0cFkh3vae9zp06D++ugKw fegs9TEi1GStatRyoTmu6JoZe9fqM3ELo1cXvDLBSBH7K2gqtYTm9DNerFdSsRjLzJsf XGZ355iyj50TBwKZ/3C0g3kQCa9bHpViEyz449CmRGA/Z/UxgOqw/cb82SD2SqJ4swNF HaVjQrFi9JVE8C6sqkJoErIPtWqfbODejI1Vw+31Olujz1ZE8vzGKMP0LLQk7iQXD9PS ZFnA== X-Gm-Message-State: ALyK8tIwmV3dsj8Ri9g+Xc0qBFVGptA2v0nhs+gD2tnpxDD3NWldt9Bew89ZqjaS3rKz3ou7gBU5l+ZvtXb4nA== X-Received: by 10.157.24.118 with SMTP id t51mr16855831ott.92.1467889943398; Thu, 07 Jul 2016 04:12:23 -0700 (PDT) MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.157.4.197 with HTTP; Thu, 7 Jul 2016 04:12:22 -0700 (PDT) In-Reply-To: <87y45diubv.fsf@gmail.com> References: <87ziptop8v.fsf@gmail.com> <87shvliwwb.fsf@gmx.de> <87y45diubv.fsf@gmail.com> From: Noam Postavsky Date: Thu, 7 Jul 2016 07:12:22 -0400 X-Google-Sender-Auth: 4kFFLALtv9zMhZI3fPP4lugSMgE Message-ID: Subject: Re: bug#23907: 24.5; tramp-use-ssh-controlmaster-options default value To: Thierry Volpiatto Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 X-Spam-Score: -0.7 (/) X-Debbugs-Envelope-To: 23907 Cc: Michael Albinus , 23907@debbugs.gnu.org X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18 Precedence: list List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Sender: "Debbugs-submit" X-Spam-Score: -0.7 (/) On Thu, Jul 7, 2016 at 7:03 AM, Thierry Volpiatto wrote: > > See https://github.com/emacs-helm/helm/issues/1000 > [...] > https://github.com/emacs-helm/helm/issues/1554 Aren't both these reports about Emacs 24.5? From debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Thu Jul 07 07:20:16 2016 Received: (at 23907) by debbugs.gnu.org; 7 Jul 2016 11:20:16 +0000 Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:40269 helo=debbugs.gnu.org) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1bL7Ls-0008FA-3v for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Thu, 07 Jul 2016 07:20:16 -0400 Received: from mail-wm0-f42.google.com ([74.125.82.42]:38463) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1bL7Lq-0008Ew-FJ for 23907@debbugs.gnu.org; Thu, 07 Jul 2016 07:20:15 -0400 Received: by mail-wm0-f42.google.com with SMTP id n127so12154911wme.1 for <23907@debbugs.gnu.org>; Thu, 07 Jul 2016 04:20:14 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20120113; h=user-agent:from:to:subject:date:message-id:mime-version; bh=WpI0VjIzLEfz6fnzqa3E36MDFkxqef/J/DOd/vUOssQ=; b=i7ZaUpLb5Tam18UmzqP94a5PC3iM4hyI8i0MTD640xD77BH556HT4b9kkz3iEQucZv Tnj1xdz8pdc7uc40z5h93Aqi2mcVMNwT/nrXxC8P7iCodl4Ekx9TqYz0is97FAvN73G3 Pczne5RdMgwM1FxJRMnbcZ5tl8ySl8tfJC/8ho2qWPmrNX2lfoZLPijThn4eg9y12KeN /aLg3yyKZ/yKeDl2xm2+OuM8ifN1395LVKATT68vfYI33J+H1vHLXQK2p0QXTJ/gcaJj /XhQ1vZ7QIpWgHplLivWxVN8Ijwq+XNLX4ZXKSegcme+LWC2aIqATywhvqxXBup/sueS d1+w== X-Google-DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=1e100.net; s=20130820; h=x-gm-message-state:user-agent:from:to:subject:date:message-id :mime-version; bh=WpI0VjIzLEfz6fnzqa3E36MDFkxqef/J/DOd/vUOssQ=; b=dRcoIA7UVm968bxnONCOqocHDdKi9rqOQIMVOXA9UPuzfVk1bqk9Cd8AkdKfva/giS UpDN04mbQX9bAWMnHy2vvOB0+zjVhsz4U87mp++/I8KFvF6qP0vD+91EvdCt3IMdy662 2i1PQEv4+ltCV5YyLYq4se4X9szugYzne0az47LqWauoW6DJ3Q0FiDpLPRdhFHkuM1+9 qBbWbyaQUwkF5wsR08NkayHnCHHEtOERXfUesZ//n+3OVnCJ2qHRqRmDCzMiybcV+LQN aF4mG5y7xSV8V2OL/FmI+iUCADBX5XbWTamKKfJaWr+5UGKRIQ+S5I2hbriHj3es7GfE 2KrQ== X-Gm-Message-State: ALyK8tLu1MDhCl7RraBSYoMuUElh3+Uq/KcLzGZcOF8yNHCnr5s7fUtt39GZPCCGWQ/17g== X-Received: by 10.194.141.75 with SMTP id rm11mr26545007wjb.160.1467890408570; Thu, 07 Jul 2016 04:20:08 -0700 (PDT) Received: from dell-14z ([37.162.119.118]) by smtp.gmail.com with ESMTPSA id f193sm958357wme.11.2016.07.07.04.20.06 for <23907@debbugs.gnu.org> (version=TLS1_2 cipher=AES128-SHA bits=128/128); Thu, 07 Jul 2016 04:20:07 -0700 (PDT) User-agent: mu4e 0.9.17; emacs 24.5.1 From: Thierry Volpiatto To: 23907@debbugs.gnu.org Subject: Fwd: Re: bug#23907: 24.5; tramp-use-ssh-controlmaster-options default value Date: Thu, 07 Jul 2016 13:20:05 +0200 Message-ID: <87twg1itju.fsf@gmail.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain X-Spam-Score: -0.7 (/) X-Debbugs-Envelope-To: 23907 X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18 Precedence: list List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Sender: "Debbugs-submit" X-Spam-Score: -0.7 (/) Thierry Volpiatto writes: > Noam Postavsky writes: > >> On Thu, Jul 7, 2016 at 7:03 AM, Thierry Volpiatto >> wrote: >>> >>> See https://github.com/emacs-helm/helm/issues/1000 >>> [...] >>> https://github.com/emacs-helm/helm/issues/1554 >> >> Aren't both these reports about Emacs 24.5? Yes but we will soon have the same bugs report if the default value in emacs-25 is not changed. -- Thierry From debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Thu Jul 07 07:27:39 2016 Received: (at 23907) by debbugs.gnu.org; 7 Jul 2016 11:27:39 +0000 Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:40274 helo=debbugs.gnu.org) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1bL7T0-0008Pq-SS for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Thu, 07 Jul 2016 07:27:39 -0400 Received: from mail-oi0-f43.google.com ([209.85.218.43]:35518) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1bL7Sz-0008Pe-0r for 23907@debbugs.gnu.org; Thu, 07 Jul 2016 07:27:37 -0400 Received: by mail-oi0-f43.google.com with SMTP id r2so18788661oih.2 for <23907@debbugs.gnu.org>; Thu, 07 Jul 2016 04:27:36 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20120113; h=mime-version:sender:in-reply-to:references:from:date:message-id :subject:to:cc; bh=Pb/Ebmm/n+nhqUg8Lk2BPKQEmd5E9IVuolHDgo3urSk=; b=n5tlkdBzB+favHg99S6L9pZSOZS2Rbu4ojfScuBzO9FIUQiuvsOGTnd0tHU6x2hCB/ Z2NxQ5gsLG9wJLzfOZVCGf9s3naqcN3/sAFWp1/gbtuKhc7uxgen7Jl+YUB8P8OO9Jr1 cDwoLZEV3VzXstDlFp9cuexRLYoXWAMDvZV6gCxkUFmp5uxdhRa0o/1iKPXi+egqyIt8 FMKS4lWTAwz4TxUp2g3fkBtzXkndF80DuriaB7M+TriEjdInRlFLrLZZ4IqsQGXnpZ9Q OKEpJ+CTvREAqvfY3xCikED+Og7Qc1+uOWp7v8KJ/km3d7hmaGq0NFoboonLNoBdSgSQ dYeA== X-Google-DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=1e100.net; s=20130820; h=x-gm-message-state:mime-version:sender:in-reply-to:references:from :date:message-id:subject:to:cc; bh=Pb/Ebmm/n+nhqUg8Lk2BPKQEmd5E9IVuolHDgo3urSk=; b=LPkVtThZ178JNgl9v+g413/VEdQs6yzJvtzCICMF1DDmePr/FkPPoDoLBFs9JCDkM0 OjiXlPT8pEQVAbsjWG7iO6/zoo36aexoaeJMA8tsGDOOPZwANcp1qhC4mhmf1BBbEWsp BiUwWpDRk0EvDU0l3zlrf4M3RjMLk/BYRAeIykfYBE1SG6fPQcpgw8oY8+uYBUTR5KP3 zWqajvJddEFXM8PY+ohgxkPofugK/TgQSxuer2ljX3GnHK4RaWKI9Y2yJHbVGWtif1GX Zif1ScGnepqg1kVQZN61rUFo8Dr7eWOsjS00WP1vbzZc8Ehlpye+CPbUH8wW4+bTdqTQ NZvw== X-Gm-Message-State: ALyK8tK3XamrQoaLcwCA8EHPdplKJwxM++BuDkJEeRAIg9ZYlilZ7y49nUIOe1030ODEobOUdJBOhqCuvo4l/A== X-Received: by 10.202.73.140 with SMTP id w134mr14608977oia.35.1467890851585; Thu, 07 Jul 2016 04:27:31 -0700 (PDT) MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.157.4.197 with HTTP; Thu, 7 Jul 2016 04:27:31 -0700 (PDT) In-Reply-To: <87twg1itju.fsf@gmail.com> References: <87ziptop8v.fsf@gmail.com> <87twg1itju.fsf@gmail.com> From: Noam Postavsky Date: Thu, 7 Jul 2016 07:27:31 -0400 X-Google-Sender-Auth: pQZ_xRybCGbjdHdxNCqb92k09Cc Message-ID: Subject: Re: bug#23907: Fwd: Re: bug#23907: 24.5; tramp-use-ssh-controlmaster-options default value To: 23907@debbugs.gnu.org Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 X-Spam-Score: -0.7 (/) X-Debbugs-Envelope-To: 23907 Cc: Thierry Volpiatto X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18 Precedence: list List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Sender: "Debbugs-submit" X-Spam-Score: -0.7 (/) On Thu, Jul 7, 2016 at 7:20 AM, Thierry Volpiatto wrote: > > Thierry Volpiatto writes: > >> Noam Postavsky writes: >> >>> On Thu, Jul 7, 2016 at 7:03 AM, Thierry Volpiatto >>> wrote: >>>> >>>> See https://github.com/emacs-helm/helm/issues/1000 >>>> [...] >>>> https://github.com/emacs-helm/helm/issues/1554 >>> >>> Aren't both these reports about Emacs 24.5? > > Yes but we will soon have the same bugs report if the default value in > emacs-25 is not changed. AFAICT, this bug was reported and fixed in Emacs 25: https://debbugs.gnu.org/cgi/bugreport.cgi?bug=20015 https://debbugs.gnu.org/cgi/bugreport.cgi?bug=21504 From debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Thu Jul 07 07:37:18 2016 Received: (at 23907) by debbugs.gnu.org; 7 Jul 2016 11:37:18 +0000 Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:40278 helo=debbugs.gnu.org) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1bL7cL-0001nm-R2 for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Thu, 07 Jul 2016 07:37:17 -0400 Received: from mail-wm0-f46.google.com ([74.125.82.46]:36493) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1bL7cK-0001na-Df for 23907@debbugs.gnu.org; Thu, 07 Jul 2016 07:37:16 -0400 Received: by mail-wm0-f46.google.com with SMTP id f126so207042080wma.1 for <23907@debbugs.gnu.org>; Thu, 07 Jul 2016 04:37:16 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20120113; h=user-agent:from:to:cc:subject:in-reply-to:date:message-id :mime-version; bh=7eQ8TZmsLPn51/5tbRadRk7+iQp/VIWZIDFqLisU2Dc=; 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Thu, 07 Jul 2016 04:37:10 -0700 (PDT) Received: from dell-14z ([37.162.119.118]) by smtp.gmail.com with ESMTPSA id c74sm3328255wme.1.2016.07.07.04.37.09 (version=TLS1_2 cipher=AES128-SHA bits=128/128); Thu, 07 Jul 2016 04:37:09 -0700 (PDT) User-agent: mu4e 0.9.17; emacs 24.5.1 From: Thierry Volpiatto To: Noam Postavsky Subject: Re: bug#23907: Fwd: Re: bug#23907: 24.5; tramp-use-ssh-controlmaster-options default value In-reply-to: Date: Thu, 07 Jul 2016 13:37:07 +0200 Message-ID: <87shvlisrg.fsf@gmail.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain X-Spam-Score: -0.7 (/) X-Debbugs-Envelope-To: 23907 Cc: 23907@debbugs.gnu.org X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18 Precedence: list List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Sender: "Debbugs-submit" X-Spam-Score: -0.7 (/) Noam Postavsky writes: > AFAICT, this bug was reported and fixed in Emacs 25: I am not convinced by this fix, trying a ssh connection (with whatever as hostname) when loading a lisp file seems unsafe to me. -- Thierry From debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Thu Jul 07 10:13:19 2016 Received: (at 23907) by debbugs.gnu.org; 7 Jul 2016 14:13:19 +0000 Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:41329 helo=debbugs.gnu.org) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1bLA3L-0005fK-3E for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Thu, 07 Jul 2016 10:13:19 -0400 Received: from mout.gmx.net ([212.227.15.19]:58800) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1bLA3J-0005f8-6f for 23907@debbugs.gnu.org; Thu, 07 Jul 2016 10:13:17 -0400 Received: from detlef.gmx.de ([87.146.60.2]) by mail.gmx.com (mrgmx002) with ESMTPSA (Nemesis) id 0LdHqj-1blw8u07AP-00iVy1; Thu, 07 Jul 2016 16:12:57 +0200 From: Michael Albinus To: Thierry Volpiatto Subject: Re: bug#23907: Fwd: Re: bug#23907: 24.5; tramp-use-ssh-controlmaster-options default value References: <87ziptop8v.fsf@gmail.com> <87shvlisrg.fsf@gmail.com> Date: Thu, 07 Jul 2016 16:12:56 +0200 In-Reply-To: <87shvlisrg.fsf@gmail.com> (Thierry Volpiatto's message of "Thu, 07 Jul 2016 13:37:07 +0200") Message-ID: <87mvltiljr.fsf@gmx.de> User-Agent: Gnus/5.13 (Gnus v5.13) Emacs/25.1.50 (gnu/linux) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain X-Provags-ID: V03:K0:V5oGwJeO9oe0x0o7tgRu+9fqLvl1W68jt3ItpIzWWFOYbuu66Xx f69QEMT+86T/d2M5MfwvX2gFRFchSJJ7X0lRa2DqtO9lfk86yUTvawZHUBMZLodOnyIeR8f 4HWSxq9iKi0Nl3MB5zOC/ywE4Kg9g7JwLcpVX9gTjFfM2l9UTJITjL/vsvDFP7gR/zkCF3s R7PTJyfJwxEToBnjHJ9rQ== X-UI-Out-Filterresults: notjunk:1;V01:K0:OuLXY4YmrII=:eS5Com8s62tJMHM+747gLs 2Y453AcVEXj6ucC5wHpeW9GvoBPSydTiH2O6CfFQ6pSblf/o42F4D8rBkuUs2JuVciWQZlHIc j8RO5MmgRJZ8hY7T4Z++oG8zYTT4jBABr5zX0MRmO+W0Jy/SPGIbwO14UFqyUaFzkxDB/eFMQ GiKyIEXTgKWgOrkLKIPLcuDzt+O0zAzz/VbAgNRG2dROtAcYMylU+w7evg6Pl0GlVU1dg6Uwv a0zw8xUVDuJJU0HKrMtrxpkpc32iEaaM2m19Sr7IAFNqbH5AvPms4JqFrYaWMEpa3PbAieWU8 lA3K2nmBr5RxCy4ZW6tOe0af8ZXlgNhdYwOVA1IjYRce6v92U19S80yatov8NWDaocCwUgyXh 9Fkm+W42ox2KDX7ZB7Koigi6ll3yCOR4KzeYCJU53vwcW6f/HfugrC3hhE3gA0kDUXUCS7XR9 phmUk1LNJsUgBLg/tVwvLfNKfpkY/5ya49sNnYJx2ri+hDFNXm1VOJ16B5zgQnAH8xHzI4ioP SbjX5YloJ5UR5zMu8Uox0JLov4UvAe/eYSKBZARKNofYK7QopzstGqNiSddcZ0VpMaR+yI+8V mf7ezm9ZijHKjnjbD45k3rkk6HBkt1RYQW8xvte/Qc3WACQCUqbH6f0ezDomwF7Ygxv/bNToU ySW0yZXZ8o134iQlY2qEtXhfDn+CC6+bZFAqmc49cUdX5XsBOVoieftZfKZt/aLxBtgyncS3f cffrHHmi2qNzUJSeB/COxHBHlCTcqo56P+862h87b9LcrQhbDefxu81mKczmqnO0Za2Kza+A2 eihj8EV X-Spam-Score: -0.7 (/) X-Debbugs-Envelope-To: 23907 Cc: 23907@debbugs.gnu.org, Noam Postavsky X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18 Precedence: list List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Sender: "Debbugs-submit" X-Spam-Score: -0.7 (/) Thierry Volpiatto writes: Hi Thierry, > Noam Postavsky writes: > >> AFAICT, this bug was reported and fixed in Emacs 25: > > I am not convinced by this fix, trying a ssh connection (with whatever as > hostname) when loading a lisp file seems unsafe to me. The function `tramp-ssh-controlmaster-options' is not called "when loading a lisp file", but only when a new connection is established. And "0.0.0.1" is not "whatever as hostname", but the well defined IP address for "this host". What's your problem with this? Best regards, Michael. From debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Thu Jul 07 10:23:56 2016 Received: (at 23907) by debbugs.gnu.org; 7 Jul 2016 14:23:56 +0000 Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:41334 helo=debbugs.gnu.org) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1bLADc-0005vN-4A for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Thu, 07 Jul 2016 10:23:56 -0400 Received: from mx2.suse.de ([195.135.220.15]:42514) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1bLADX-0005vA-W2 for 23907@debbugs.gnu.org; Thu, 07 Jul 2016 10:23:54 -0400 X-Virus-Scanned: by amavisd-new at test-mx.suse.de Received: from relay1.suse.de (charybdis-ext.suse.de [195.135.220.254]) by mx2.suse.de (Postfix) with ESMTP id D032DAC35; Thu, 7 Jul 2016 14:23:50 +0000 (UTC) From: Andreas Schwab To: Michael Albinus Subject: Re: bug#23907: Fwd: Re: bug#23907: 24.5; tramp-use-ssh-controlmaster-options default value References: <87ziptop8v.fsf@gmail.com> <87shvlisrg.fsf@gmail.com> <87mvltiljr.fsf@gmx.de> X-Yow: The fact that 47 PEOPLE are yelling and sweat is cascading down my SPINAL COLUMN is fairly enjoyable!! Date: Thu, 07 Jul 2016 16:23:50 +0200 In-Reply-To: <87mvltiljr.fsf@gmx.de> (Michael Albinus's message of "Thu, 07 Jul 2016 16:12:56 +0200") Message-ID: User-Agent: Gnus/5.13 (Gnus v5.13) Emacs/24.5 (gnu/linux) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain X-Spam-Score: -3.6 (---) X-Debbugs-Envelope-To: 23907 Cc: Noam Postavsky , 23907@debbugs.gnu.org, Thierry Volpiatto X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18 Precedence: list List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Sender: "Debbugs-submit" X-Spam-Score: -3.6 (---) Michael Albinus writes: > And "0.0.0.1" is not "whatever as hostname", but the well defined IP > address for "this host". > > What's your problem with this? 0.0.0.1 is an invalid destination address. Andreas. -- Andreas Schwab, SUSE Labs, schwab@suse.de GPG Key fingerprint = 0196 BAD8 1CE9 1970 F4BE 1748 E4D4 88E3 0EEA B9D7 "And now for something completely different." From debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Thu Jul 07 10:38:06 2016 Received: (at 23907) by debbugs.gnu.org; 7 Jul 2016 14:38:06 +0000 Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:41339 helo=debbugs.gnu.org) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1bLARK-0006XX-CF for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Thu, 07 Jul 2016 10:38:06 -0400 Received: from mout.gmx.net ([212.227.17.22]:57325) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1bLARH-0006WM-Dv for 23907@debbugs.gnu.org; Thu, 07 Jul 2016 10:38:04 -0400 Received: from detlef.gmx.de ([87.146.60.2]) by mail.gmx.com (mrgmx103) with ESMTPSA (Nemesis) id 0LeNGL-1beFxJ3jTR-00q7aa; Thu, 07 Jul 2016 16:37:41 +0200 From: Michael Albinus To: Andreas Schwab Subject: Re: bug#23907: Fwd: Re: bug#23907: 24.5; tramp-use-ssh-controlmaster-options default value References: <87ziptop8v.fsf@gmail.com> <87shvlisrg.fsf@gmail.com> <87mvltiljr.fsf@gmx.de> Date: Thu, 07 Jul 2016 16:37:38 +0200 In-Reply-To: (Andreas Schwab's message of "Thu, 07 Jul 2016 16:23:50 +0200") Message-ID: <87inwhikel.fsf@gmx.de> User-Agent: Gnus/5.13 (Gnus v5.13) Emacs/25.1.50 (gnu/linux) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain X-Provags-ID: V03:K0:72adWMqEWfBRn7A0rutnsrA+VPpHc9GI2K7TIcKRPV4M++fDJEQ O4+BMzID67+be6eSMB6ckBIA38a10pT5yzYOpPZfPnRTuVauoOiuhY2yTkmXcW1tLg6z60C B5oXDnr3gIVqR0NCl6/1SpXciqchQtcINpiucUNazbOl+deL/Sfnhh97hOPjCAa7Qmt3996 Q3yyVJTbStMR+laldH+8w== X-UI-Out-Filterresults: notjunk:1;V01:K0:5f12sftynmo=:S1tJhToYhhRUmdkncCgt+J 4kN6Zr4Qmgvdb+bu2l8B+U2vzkpyF8H+9vFuqkWBbXaXGlEuLf6RYKPWQ4G+eXsmsqNQchQdM IXm/eFUAQ9hd1L8k35NwYBMSw0qIs74r9Yn/Q8ZQJESTiqaavDsk4ht1LFp+iAK4F0ocCW7s6 hlVfEdXQS4W8/Zb1w5xAtT1olFH12E/vuvctypAvGmkwoCmXuMx1dtwG5lh8HEhz6yciCWGUK 5darZkqe6c/G5NXi5Iz6fVvY7s1IjA9CyS5lbWYuLOAmGwGITLev0GLwSSKEObaDBvQyuukKO ZSM66Wx7+p+YMbO4Xkqm/rFLoD7g0pFzMZwee5P0JIf61F5aKZI0RrqA+rLHCLzJ0r+xmvync qx5Cv5YKHbdPC7fdCVBMr9YsO4ncxd+yqpLrAhYdpuwqTor1iX1hNGr+sCsUhNF6M7RNtxf7f 04fhYiX5ZKttnx4Q9Aoe8cHHpCg1QrKu7SxvS/Ycx6uVvGRxErot9x5frw5QHeF0h4NfGE3Ve s+iXSGL8QIdjxjrQvFtMUGic060mu7ADyikB6gIgUa2AYPumDIzp5jPns0LnZCuxLn5H/0/xW ELQDDCZUnr4YRm42QVmvunHeZPyGqiqCr4OZsZZAyi50nEBqH82K5dLfMJ4ABhXDkObZ5jSo/ qye7XoOb1IIoZUbzhnWT+A/IrWc3lVwl4ll2J6IKOwresRlmSzuSPActW7BwIDut2p7a5h6g7 fcCEV5u21HvlJC2pgIlACxNJHq/E61oYbdnfUwupDcwZUw/8H3P/K0ZKLtwj1U8MP2zaf+sFx Cc+tpYM X-Spam-Score: -0.7 (/) X-Debbugs-Envelope-To: 23907 Cc: Noam Postavsky , 23907@debbugs.gnu.org, Thierry Volpiatto X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18 Precedence: list List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Sender: "Debbugs-submit" X-Spam-Score: -0.7 (/) Andreas Schwab writes: Hi Andreas, > Michael Albinus writes: > >> And "0.0.0.1" is not "whatever as hostname", but the well defined IP >> address for "this host". >> >> What's your problem with this? > > 0.0.0.1 is an invalid destination address. It is not used as destination address. Tramp must probe ssh parameters, and it must use a syntactical valid IP address. 0.0.0.1 serves this purpose perfectly, without the fear to connect to a real host. > Andreas. Best regards, Michael. From debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Thu Jul 07 12:33:44 2016 Received: (at 23907) by debbugs.gnu.org; 7 Jul 2016 16:33:44 +0000 Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:41417 helo=debbugs.gnu.org) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1bLCFD-0000vw-Up for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Thu, 07 Jul 2016 12:33:44 -0400 Received: from mail-wm0-f44.google.com ([74.125.82.44]:36662) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1bLCFC-0000vk-Fi for 23907@debbugs.gnu.org; Thu, 07 Jul 2016 12:33:42 -0400 Received: by mail-wm0-f44.google.com with SMTP id f126so217533344wma.1 for <23907@debbugs.gnu.org>; Thu, 07 Jul 2016 09:33:42 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20120113; h=user-agent:from:to:cc:subject:in-reply-to:date:message-id :mime-version; bh=bdFbkwBXawhZvpm9PODUsXJLw2ZwHNJ0etooa7py7Pc=; b=nazY1zHtB3CQh4aD3BLn9nq+GFBYE+hPcmjhsiNDMoF0D0HWih3eg7i5NY51y87D5+ 2stkx/M28PBfx480zqgVoKWcer6BBqe0rBjO+bVNRr3dk7OE7xTSbrDU6ciJEGAOL64F XHkzY1F6Y9v5957SUEj1Zeir+x11lJfIm12WKvOVNHXcwtvmHzkXnhtCmrgRUSMmN/fw gZJ0MplnzYcS7L9kCUNRUnL5rPYtyyvYLUI1LwN8czXL5+WPjIxMMW79xyAO4CbZSN/b GGBRwsqcR8GmjIe5mx0RAlrJZnDviWKDFVGTpFLwtX+dl53oAf5hLQG/Im9RkRtCVfxh SORA== X-Google-DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=1e100.net; s=20130820; h=x-gm-message-state:user-agent:from:to:cc:subject:in-reply-to:date :message-id:mime-version; bh=bdFbkwBXawhZvpm9PODUsXJLw2ZwHNJ0etooa7py7Pc=; b=mBszE7kXKtaxwEKY0SpoNSMilnYjfbmaSYfINqjYR3zYu3cuNEDE49M/nPSAq2vB6r xnQ7ScUsmOOLwdvl8oMoZ0pN9vG3hcBOa3HQR1wPMZhqgrXonznnD/YOsAXKM7I3ic0l 9HJNt4g9eQTKRDFq9Kc21WeOPmpxTpUlU48/Kk1nTd26fZH9ZjXbnQSGUrr3RY7XS1JQ Lq1pvQPA5FksA7T8g4Ad/q4uxdGaYG3gnXSqk54+jeA1MrQlJF+fFKkrq075Dys2g3qO 6ljM9zxmCLM3qMv5Y9vyfHb2+3r3wMGZ9St88RfiJOUV7acrm62QeGlZWcfL6uJDs44K FN3Q== X-Gm-Message-State: ALyK8tKtnT9zenI145+x7s8/FCjO2m/R0MdZ/CTFYd2ZWv6to+8iIkOzl8WvLGBJ3BldZQ== X-Received: by 10.194.73.38 with SMTP id i6mr1069524wjv.173.1467909216820; Thu, 07 Jul 2016 09:33:36 -0700 (PDT) Received: from dell-14z ([37.166.4.9]) by smtp.gmail.com with ESMTPSA id bf5sm2826450wjc.12.2016.07.07.09.33.34 (version=TLS1_2 cipher=AES128-SHA bits=128/128); Thu, 07 Jul 2016 09:33:35 -0700 (PDT) User-agent: mu4e 0.9.17; emacs 24.5.1 From: Thierry Volpiatto To: Michael Albinus Subject: Re: bug#23907: Fwd: Re: bug#23907: 24.5; tramp-use-ssh-controlmaster-options default value In-reply-to: <87mvltiljr.fsf@gmx.de> Date: Thu, 07 Jul 2016 18:33:32 +0200 Message-ID: <8760sh4dcz.fsf@gmail.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain X-Spam-Score: -0.7 (/) X-Debbugs-Envelope-To: 23907 Cc: 23907@debbugs.gnu.org, Noam Postavsky X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18 Precedence: list List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Sender: "Debbugs-submit" X-Spam-Score: -0.7 (/) Michael Albinus writes: > The function `tramp-ssh-controlmaster-options' is not called "when > loading a lisp file", but only when a new connection is established. Ok, so that's good, happy to hear this. Thanks. -- Thierry From debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Thu Jul 07 12:37:41 2016 Received: (at 23907) by debbugs.gnu.org; 7 Jul 2016 16:37:41 +0000 Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:41421 helo=debbugs.gnu.org) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1bLCJ3-00011V-Fj for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Thu, 07 Jul 2016 12:37:41 -0400 Received: from mout.gmx.net ([212.227.17.20]:59723) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1bLCJ1-00011H-M7 for 23907@debbugs.gnu.org; Thu, 07 Jul 2016 12:37:40 -0400 Received: from detlef.gmx.de ([87.146.60.2]) by mail.gmx.com (mrgmx102) with ESMTPSA (Nemesis) id 0MDn8s-1b4Csg16LO-00H5ef; Thu, 07 Jul 2016 18:37:20 +0200 From: Michael Albinus To: Thierry Volpiatto Subject: Re: bug#23907: Fwd: Re: bug#23907: 24.5; tramp-use-ssh-controlmaster-options default value References: <8760sh4dcz.fsf@gmail.com> Date: Thu, 07 Jul 2016 18:37:18 +0200 In-Reply-To: <8760sh4dcz.fsf@gmail.com> (Thierry Volpiatto's message of "Thu, 07 Jul 2016 18:33:32 +0200") Message-ID: <87furl8kw1.fsf@gmx.de> User-Agent: Gnus/5.13 (Gnus v5.13) Emacs/25.1.50 (gnu/linux) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain X-Provags-ID: V03:K0:n9RxuIlxmWXY1wRjxqSkNWxo93H0G76INtNCA94g2x6YMRb6M/P CUbL0ZHHMqXV8lXaZmS5S60DJW9DzyEb3d93hcE/FKxytvrP4nq9FDo0oRed5nuEMk+hWsj KHQbtFccwgFHxwUIr3t6+AE4h3ZBiFL2PJ1sgiRjkYMVsVtA0vRlcj6+CG4uMYimNWbaUWA AK4k6Ih4spiOaLz13Em6Q== X-UI-Out-Filterresults: notjunk:1;V01:K0:9ypaA3j9cuA=:15/XC9AfQGOrfJiJweMM/d LSyFWagcwwIxsYXwoV409zrVnu04xklZ65WFgB9nHVEmB5NqUbuqlq8cdsVd0C+n90QYsVoqh ZTT7zvUhNIHVaXfVzC08koq5OCxaPvcMJ8f9TsmbtqEHhXvu0sycxdAD4yVkqFxabezN0SmOk ryLQiopnyrKvVqa45N6PIjGaWs9Qd9rD2NHKusPi9wxCShbxXCFeSsTWSyOWIU6RwvtD37SBU jA8MKfDHgBKE8XlTqd7fIbEyR6rNpMJZjarQuWobpasP1gdgEdIpopUIQF0uEBijceZyT+mpc 1q2wVXZ52kFxUfWn9ml06lVY+355uqz8KPGlGo9frNlD0tgmaATOASTWEj6FGo4ppzqbOEgZa CBJB+0bRh9LIzGBLxWm6cFlD0Jk3MWipKZhGzW8XbJ1jjsdeygfYA/gkVTijVX4HZY5ZFW2Zr ImIxPabVzXstxAu8FqFM22OikU/VByxXrd1xrU2JIIHD7G8UmYy2ijgwZaKeFBXBlfq1g8g7S eWre3zVgvQpto1VHjhXOjyPfz6n+ZjZutNLMpFXzTv692pPt+Rc/A31dT+q6FjA99dW8ydeao E1/4/TAFmiMR7Ahf2igl0DGmntsYMUAD8/NAq3MNx6vYG4/bEWmL6em5OoTukaMkrJx3twh+U bMeUr8Ax9z4TtD10xTqZoU5sHKPS3N0qVkrMduyrUArJtIXVjzleFXgYirXRS9XgTmlUizvOK r8IwcdZoXXIg5B/PoZRGWj78HqD5MVgZWksR4Sfo7E7rukoyV/KULVIp08rdkQ0RH1vBJcC+N uf8TYVQ X-Spam-Score: -0.7 (/) X-Debbugs-Envelope-To: 23907 Cc: 23907@debbugs.gnu.org, Noam Postavsky X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18 Precedence: list List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Sender: "Debbugs-submit" X-Spam-Score: -0.7 (/) Thierry Volpiatto writes: >> The function `tramp-ssh-controlmaster-options' is not called "when >> loading a lisp file", but only when a new connection is established. > > Ok, so that's good, happy to hear this. > Thanks. So I'm closing this bug. Best regards, Michael. 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