From unknown Sun Jun 22 15:25:59 2025 X-Loop: help-debbugs@gnu.org Subject: bug#23812: 25.0.95; Minor glitch in dired listing due to non English host language Resent-From: Lele Gaifax Original-Sender: "Debbugs-submit" Resent-CC: bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org Resent-Date: Tue, 21 Jun 2016 08:33:02 +0000 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-Sender: help-debbugs@gnu.org X-GNU-PR-Message: report 23812 X-GNU-PR-Package: emacs X-GNU-PR-Keywords: To: 23812@debbugs.gnu.org X-Debbugs-Original-To: bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org Received: via spool by submit@debbugs.gnu.org id=B.146649794310479 (code B ref -1); Tue, 21 Jun 2016 08:33:02 +0000 Received: (at submit) by debbugs.gnu.org; 21 Jun 2016 08:32:23 +0000 Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:48526 helo=debbugs.gnu.org) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1bFH6c-0002ix-RY for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Tue, 21 Jun 2016 04:32:23 -0400 Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([208.118.235.92]:58423) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1bFH6b-0002ik-AS for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Tue, 21 Jun 2016 04:32:22 -0400 Received: from Debian-exim by eggs.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1bFH6R-00068m-SP for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Tue, 21 Jun 2016 04:32:15 -0400 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.3.2 (2011-06-06) on eggs.gnu.org X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=0.8 required=5.0 tests=BAYES_50 autolearn=disabled version=3.3.2 Received: from lists.gnu.org ([2001:4830:134:3::11]:50159) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1bFH6R-00068B-Pq for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Tue, 21 Jun 2016 04:32:11 -0400 Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([2001:4830:134:3::10]:49372) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1bFH6P-0005sL-0j for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Tue, 21 Jun 2016 04:32:10 -0400 Received: from Debian-exim by eggs.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1bFH6K-00067V-PI for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Tue, 21 Jun 2016 04:32:07 -0400 Received: from mail.arstecnica.it ([144.76.81.238]:56200) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1bFH6K-00067A-Iv for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Tue, 21 Jun 2016 04:32:04 -0400 Received: from nautilus (assp.arstecnica.it [192.168.1.102]) by mail.arstecnica.it (Postfix) with ESMTPSA id 05D8583E8EB for ; Tue, 21 Jun 2016 08:31:59 +0000 (UTC) Received: from nautilus ([151.62.3.59] helo=nautilus) by assp.arstecnica.it with SMTPS(AES256-GCM-SHA384) (2.3.3); 21 Jun 2016 08:31:59 +0000 From: Lele Gaifax Date: Tue, 21 Jun 2016 10:31:59 +0200 Message-ID: <87a8ifhri8.fsf@metapensiero.it> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-Assp-Version: 2.3.3(14029) on assp.arstecnica.it X-Assp-ID: assp.arstecnica.it m1-97919-07187 X-Assp-Session: B407D56C (mail 1) X-Assp-Envelope-From: lele@metapensiero.it X-Assp-Intended-For: bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org X-Assp-Client-TLS: yes X-Assp-Server-TLS: yes X-detected-operating-system: by eggs.gnu.org: GNU/Linux 3.x X-detected-operating-system: by eggs.gnu.org: GNU/Linux 2.6.x X-Received-From: 2001:4830:134:3::11 X-Spam-Score: -4.1 (----) X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18 Precedence: list List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Sender: "Debbugs-submit" X-Spam-Score: -4.1 (----) When I enter in a `dired` mode, I see something like the following at the t= op of the buffer: /home/lele/something: total used in directorye 8 available 24407396 drwxrwxr-x 2 lele lele 4096 giu 21 10:02 . drwxr-xr-x 5 lele lele 4096 giu 21 10:02 .. Note the =E2=80=9Cdirectorye=E2=80=9D glitch: I think it is caused by the f= act that the function `insert-directory` in lisp/files.el assumes the underlying `ls` command operates in an English environment, in particular in the first line where it emits with the disk space usage, and perform a simple replace of "total" with "total used in directory". This is what I get with a plain `ls -la`: $ ls -la totale 8 drwxrwxr-x 2 lele lele 4096 giu 21 10:02 . drwxr-xr-x 5 lele lele 4096 giu 21 10:02 .. while it assumes an output like: $ LANG=3Den ls -la total 8 drwxrwxr-x 2 lele lele 4096 Jun 21 10:02 . drwxr-xr-x 5 lele lele 4096 Jun 21 10:02 .. Given that the function unconditionally inserts an English phrase, the easiest-but-consistent workaround could be explicitly executing `ls` with `$LANG` set to "en". A more elaborated approach could be extracting only the number in the first line of the `ls` output instead of matching "total": in this way it would support also languages that swap the order (that is, that translate that li= ne to something equivalent =E2=80=9C8 bytes in total=E2=80=9D). Thank you, ciao, lele. In GNU Emacs 25.0.95.2 (x86_64-pc-linux-gnu, GTK+ Version 3.20.6) of 2016-06-14 built on nautilus Repository revision: f5261917191336d052ad8586b2d9fd62ba46c3c4 Windowing system distributor 'The X.Org Foundation', version 11.0.11803000 System Description: Debian GNU/Linux unstable (sid) Configured using: 'configure --prefix /usr/local/emacs25' Configured features: XPM JPEG TIFF GIF PNG SOUND DBUS GSETTINGS NOTIFY GNUTLS LIBXML2 FREETYPE X= FT ZLIB TOOLKIT_SCROLL_BARS GTK3 X11 Important settings: value of $LANG: it_IT.UTF-8 locale-coding-system: utf-8-unix Major mode: Dired by name --=20 nickname: Lele Gaifax | Quando vivr=C3=B2 di quello che ho pensato ieri real: Emanuele Gaifas | comincer=C3=B2 ad aver paura di chi mi copia. lele@metapensiero.it | -- Fortunato Depero, 1929. From unknown Sun Jun 22 15:25:59 2025 X-Loop: help-debbugs@gnu.org Subject: bug#23812: 25.0.95; Minor glitch in dired listing due to non English host language Resent-From: Lars Ingebrigtsen Original-Sender: "Debbugs-submit" Resent-CC: bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org Resent-Date: Tue, 15 Dec 2020 07:10:01 +0000 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-Sender: help-debbugs@gnu.org X-GNU-PR-Message: followup 23812 X-GNU-PR-Package: emacs X-GNU-PR-Keywords: To: Lele Gaifax Cc: 23812@debbugs.gnu.org Received: via spool by 23812-submit@debbugs.gnu.org id=B23812.160801618826243 (code B ref 23812); Tue, 15 Dec 2020 07:10:01 +0000 Received: (at 23812) by debbugs.gnu.org; 15 Dec 2020 07:09:48 +0000 Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:55175 helo=debbugs.gnu.org) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1kp4Sy-0006pD-8a for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Tue, 15 Dec 2020 02:09:48 -0500 Received: from quimby.gnus.org ([95.216.78.240]:52632) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1kp4Sw-0006ov-CG for 23812@debbugs.gnu.org; Tue, 15 Dec 2020 02:09:47 -0500 DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; q=dns/txt; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gnus.org; s=20200322; h=Content-Type:MIME-Version:Message-ID:In-Reply-To:Date: References:Subject:Cc:To:From:Sender:Reply-To:Content-Transfer-Encoding: Content-ID:Content-Description:Resent-Date:Resent-From:Resent-Sender: Resent-To:Resent-Cc:Resent-Message-ID:List-Id:List-Help:List-Unsubscribe: List-Subscribe:List-Post:List-Owner:List-Archive; bh=ZNtKfhSFCxSsVCpwCPmq6Rn8rcOAi+7WlFSgJI/1ZgI=; b=BRQJYmHyVB46H9WBplCoIdlkuj 7eUlikGv26WWE0R64UV8aur71ncyRPCRjUzQfMLx344qOsCue7A0pFXSgxxqA7Nop1foeyn2NaEb5 N2jB2lICXU8d4TLxxehgNEO2CtWP+9btfqXQ17AWpWssIjjAgKKSV+PP1unL9R71EiPg=; Received: from cm-84.212.202.86.getinternet.no ([84.212.202.86] helo=xo) by quimby.gnus.org with esmtpsa (TLS1.3:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.92) (envelope-from ) id 1kp4Sh-0006P8-27; Tue, 15 Dec 2020 08:09:39 +0100 From: Lars Ingebrigtsen References: <87a8ifhri8.fsf@metapensiero.it> X-Now-Playing: AR Kane's _I_: "Snow Joke" Date: Tue, 15 Dec 2020 08:09:29 +0100 In-Reply-To: <87a8ifhri8.fsf@metapensiero.it> (Lele Gaifax's message of "Tue, 21 Jun 2016 10:31:59 +0200") Message-ID: <87lfdzzgt2.fsf@gnus.org> User-Agent: Gnus/5.13 (Gnus v5.13) Emacs/28.0.50 (gnu/linux) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain X-Spam-Report: Spam detection software, running on the system "quimby.gnus.org", has NOT identified this incoming email as spam. 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Content preview: Lele Gaifax writes: > When I enter in a `dired` mode, I see something like the following at the top > of the buffer: > > /home/lele/something: > total used in directorye 8 available 24407396 > drwxrwxr-x 2 lele lele 4096 [...] Content analysis details: (-2.9 points, 5.0 required) pts rule name description ---- ---------------------- -------------------------------------------------- -1.0 ALL_TRUSTED Passed through trusted hosts only via SMTP -1.9 BAYES_00 BODY: Bayes spam probability is 0 to 1% [score: 0.0000] X-Spam-Score: 0.0 (/) X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18 Precedence: list List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Sender: "Debbugs-submit" X-Spam-Score: -1.0 (-) Lele Gaifax writes: > When I enter in a `dired` mode, I see something like the following at the top > of the buffer: > > /home/lele/something: > total used in directorye 8 available 24407396 > drwxrwxr-x 2 lele lele 4096 giu 21 10:02 . > drwxr-xr-x 5 lele lele 4096 giu 21 10:02 .. (This bug report unfortunately got no response at the time.) This bug is still present. Steps to reproduce: LANGUAGE=it_IT.UTF-8 emacs -Q . (You need to have an Italian locale installed.) There's been a bit of discussion over the years about that summary line in Dired, but I'm not sure whether anybody came to any conclusions. I guess we do not want to run "ls" under the C locale? That would make all the lines be in English, including the dates... -- (domestic pets only, the antidote for overdose, milk.) bloggy blog: http://lars.ingebrigtsen.no From unknown Sun Jun 22 15:25:59 2025 X-Loop: help-debbugs@gnu.org Subject: bug#23812: 25.0.95; Minor glitch in dired listing due to non English host language Resent-From: Lele Gaifax Original-Sender: "Debbugs-submit" Resent-CC: bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org Resent-Date: Tue, 15 Dec 2020 07:49:01 +0000 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-Sender: help-debbugs@gnu.org X-GNU-PR-Message: followup 23812 X-GNU-PR-Package: emacs X-GNU-PR-Keywords: To: Lars Ingebrigtsen Cc: 23812@debbugs.gnu.org Received: via spool by 23812-submit@debbugs.gnu.org id=B23812.16080185246120 (code B ref 23812); Tue, 15 Dec 2020 07:49:01 +0000 Received: (at 23812) by debbugs.gnu.org; 15 Dec 2020 07:48:44 +0000 Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:55375 helo=debbugs.gnu.org) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1kp54e-0001ad-1V for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Tue, 15 Dec 2020 02:48:44 -0500 Received: from orphu.arstecnica.it ([178.63.97.204]:49538) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1kp54c-0001aU-Dm for 23812@debbugs.gnu.org; Tue, 15 Dec 2020 02:48:43 -0500 From: Lele Gaifax DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/simple; d=metapensiero.it; s=mail; t=1608018515; bh=f1opWmmOIaScnG9UTSnWZ5cz9WPEuebAH3rNdmmlhPE=; h=From:To:Cc:Subject:In-Reply-To:References:Date; b=cc7iE1MK7SIYNRQqsHh5bBTRcMD9qBTgyF9uI8XzICeJpqSFMRGRvg2AJqwwzWzCX Rb/BhlzUqellRhmGwNwuFa0nPdoNOcHysbdwwDsA30bD0T8ZAzjxIWXzpUjspirp63 UKKb3fkIDDHaSvEVLQhqYOT12FQST4RbbeBYa7xM= In-Reply-To: <87lfdzzgt2.fsf@gnus.org> References: <87a8ifhri8.fsf@metapensiero.it> <87lfdzzgt2.fsf@gnus.org> Date: Tue, 15 Dec 2020 08:48:34 +0100 Message-ID: <87ft47se5p.fsf@metapensiero.it> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-Spam-Score: 0.0 (/) X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18 Precedence: list List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Sender: "Debbugs-submit" X-Spam-Score: -1.0 (-) Lars Ingebrigtsen writes: > There's been a bit of discussion over the years about that summary line > in Dired, but I'm not sure whether anybody came to any conclusions. I > guess we do not want to run "ls" under the C locale? That would make > all the lines be in English, including the dates... IMHO, it should be simply removed, it carries so little information, especially nowadays. ciao, lele. --=20 nickname: Lele Gaifax | Quando vivr=C3=B2 di quello che ho pensato ieri real: Emanuele Gaifas | comincer=C3=B2 ad aver paura di chi mi copia. lele@metapensiero.it | -- Fortunato Depero, 1929. From unknown Sun Jun 22 15:25:59 2025 X-Loop: help-debbugs@gnu.org Subject: bug#23812: 25.0.95; Minor glitch in dired listing due to non English host language Resent-From: Eli Zaretskii Original-Sender: "Debbugs-submit" Resent-CC: bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org Resent-Date: Tue, 15 Dec 2020 16:51:01 +0000 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-Sender: help-debbugs@gnu.org X-GNU-PR-Message: followup 23812 X-GNU-PR-Package: emacs X-GNU-PR-Keywords: To: Lars Ingebrigtsen Cc: lele@metapensiero.it, 23812@debbugs.gnu.org Received: via spool by 23812-submit@debbugs.gnu.org id=B23812.160805102416317 (code B ref 23812); Tue, 15 Dec 2020 16:51:01 +0000 Received: (at 23812) by debbugs.gnu.org; 15 Dec 2020 16:50:24 +0000 Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:58966 helo=debbugs.gnu.org) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1kpDWp-0004F7-LC for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Tue, 15 Dec 2020 11:50:23 -0500 Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([209.51.188.92]:52070) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1kpDWn-0004Es-N0 for 23812@debbugs.gnu.org; Tue, 15 Dec 2020 11:50:22 -0500 Received: from fencepost.gnu.org ([2001:470:142:3::e]:54049) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1kpDWg-00078e-UG; Tue, 15 Dec 2020 11:50:14 -0500 Received: from [176.228.60.248] (port=3382 helo=home-c4e4a596f7) by fencepost.gnu.org with esmtpsa (TLS1.2:RSA_AES_256_CBC_SHA1:256) (Exim 4.82) (envelope-from ) id 1kpDWf-0001lK-KB; Tue, 15 Dec 2020 11:50:14 -0500 Date: Tue, 15 Dec 2020 18:50:07 +0200 Message-Id: <837dpjau9s.fsf@gnu.org> From: Eli Zaretskii In-Reply-To: <87lfdzzgt2.fsf@gnus.org> (message from Lars Ingebrigtsen on Tue, 15 Dec 2020 08:09:29 +0100) References: <87a8ifhri8.fsf@metapensiero.it> <87lfdzzgt2.fsf@gnus.org> X-Spam-Score: -2.3 (--) X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18 Precedence: list List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Sender: "Debbugs-submit" X-Spam-Score: -3.3 (---) > From: Lars Ingebrigtsen > Date: Tue, 15 Dec 2020 08:09:29 +0100 > Cc: 23812@debbugs.gnu.org > > > /home/lele/something: > > total used in directorye 8 available 24407396 > > drwxrwxr-x 2 lele lele 4096 giu 21 10:02 . > > drwxr-xr-x 5 lele lele 4096 giu 21 10:02 .. > > (This bug report unfortunately got no response at the time.) > > This bug is still present. Steps to reproduce: > > LANGUAGE=it_IT.UTF-8 emacs -Q . > > (You need to have an Italian locale installed.) > > There's been a bit of discussion over the years about that summary line > in Dired, but I'm not sure whether anybody came to any conclusions. I > guess we do not want to run "ls" under the C locale? That would make > all the lines be in English, including the dates... I think we should delete everything except the number at the end. From unknown Sun Jun 22 15:25:59 2025 X-Loop: help-debbugs@gnu.org Subject: bug#23812: 25.0.95; Minor glitch in dired listing due to non English host language Resent-From: Drew Adams Original-Sender: "Debbugs-submit" Resent-CC: bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org Resent-Date: Tue, 15 Dec 2020 16:57:01 +0000 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-Sender: help-debbugs@gnu.org X-GNU-PR-Message: followup 23812 X-GNU-PR-Package: emacs X-GNU-PR-Keywords: To: Lele Gaifax , Lars Ingebrigtsen Cc: 23812@debbugs.gnu.org Received: via spool by 23812-submit@debbugs.gnu.org id=B23812.160805138316872 (code B ref 23812); Tue, 15 Dec 2020 16:57:01 +0000 Received: (at 23812) by debbugs.gnu.org; 15 Dec 2020 16:56:23 +0000 Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:58975 helo=debbugs.gnu.org) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1kpDcc-0004O4-SL for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Tue, 15 Dec 2020 11:56:23 -0500 Received: from userp2130.oracle.com ([156.151.31.86]:58354) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1kpDca-0004No-7j for 23812@debbugs.gnu.org; Tue, 15 Dec 2020 11:56:21 -0500 Received: from pps.filterd (userp2130.oracle.com [127.0.0.1]) by userp2130.oracle.com (8.16.0.42/8.16.0.42) with SMTP id 0BFGsjaf117920; Tue, 15 Dec 2020 16:56:14 GMT DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=oracle.com; h=mime-version : message-id : date : from : sender : to : cc : subject : references : in-reply-to : content-type : content-transfer-encoding; s=corp-2020-01-29; bh=RIeINxWGsHrMs1c1NomcOlvVDzGtMSIdpxRuFGpkNws=; b=gDdCjqwKCw0PnhPa7e3TEe9QnC6eVa7/zHgr5aMttAzmyFHsAqRntRxGLFtaGXkwPru0 VT0EIaV/XG0FqX79ShhxdEispPuJ6apyE0m2GDe3rW59yeeAm124TP0oqtrx0wcVSC03 uCr/c8ZS0ydh749qKQo+O81aXd3aqahTLXX0K0cwLJRz21spn32C3Z9pBI5FQ+O+30fX lASthm4itBmrlNIlwNzIhWAwckQEpJUfbC+3TUCbF9W4ku7QnEZ6n0APvJG5heprclGQ +ruenhRp/agBQ5kYQm2pBn7AsQniW1hyp4b83rPdtp25CVCS45wUMv//Kq7mlMkvc1e5 kQ== Received: from userp3020.oracle.com (userp3020.oracle.com [156.151.31.79]) by userp2130.oracle.com with ESMTP id 35cn9rbny2-1 (version=TLSv1.2 cipher=ECDHE-RSA-AES256-GCM-SHA384 bits=256 verify=FAIL); Tue, 15 Dec 2020 16:56:14 +0000 Received: from pps.filterd (userp3020.oracle.com [127.0.0.1]) by userp3020.oracle.com (8.16.0.42/8.16.0.42) with SMTP id 0BFGp9vt056743; Tue, 15 Dec 2020 16:56:13 GMT Received: from aserv0121.oracle.com (aserv0121.oracle.com [141.146.126.235]) by userp3020.oracle.com with ESMTP id 35e6jre0mw-1 (version=TLSv1.2 cipher=ECDHE-RSA-AES256-GCM-SHA384 bits=256 verify=OK); Tue, 15 Dec 2020 16:56:13 +0000 Received: from abhmp0008.oracle.com (abhmp0008.oracle.com [141.146.116.14]) by aserv0121.oracle.com (8.14.4/8.13.8) with ESMTP id 0BFGuB0F026870; Tue, 15 Dec 2020 16:56:11 GMT MIME-Version: 1.0 Message-ID: <38927072-5832-4bbf-98c0-1ed9744ec8a3@default> Date: Tue, 15 Dec 2020 08:56:10 -0800 (PST) From: Drew Adams References: <87a8ifhri8.fsf@metapensiero.it> <87lfdzzgt2.fsf@gnus.org> <87ft47se5p.fsf@metapensiero.it> In-Reply-To: <87ft47se5p.fsf@metapensiero.it> X-Priority: 3 X-Mailer: Oracle Beehive Extensions for Outlook 2.0.1.9.1 (1003210) [OL 16.0.5071.0 (x86)] Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-Proofpoint-Virus-Version: vendor=nai engine=6000 definitions=9836 signatures=668683 X-Proofpoint-Spam-Details: rule=notspam policy=default score=0 spamscore=0 mlxscore=0 bulkscore=0 malwarescore=0 adultscore=0 mlxlogscore=999 phishscore=0 suspectscore=0 classifier=spam adjust=0 reason=mlx scancount=1 engine=8.12.0-2009150000 definitions=main-2012150113 X-Proofpoint-Virus-Version: vendor=nai engine=6000 definitions=9836 signatures=668683 X-Proofpoint-Spam-Details: rule=notspam policy=default score=0 adultscore=0 mlxlogscore=999 impostorscore=0 lowpriorityscore=0 clxscore=1011 spamscore=0 malwarescore=0 priorityscore=1501 phishscore=0 mlxscore=0 bulkscore=0 suspectscore=0 classifier=spam adjust=0 reason=mlx scancount=1 engine=8.12.0-2009150000 definitions=main-2012150113 X-Spam-Score: -2.3 (--) X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18 Precedence: list List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Sender: "Debbugs-submit" X-Spam-Score: -3.3 (---) > > There's been a bit of discussion over the years about that summary line > > in Dired, but I'm not sure whether anybody came to any conclusions. I > > guess we do not want to run "ls" under the C locale? That would make > > all the lines be in English, including the dates... >=20 > IMHO, it should be simply removed, it carries so little information, > especially nowadays. I disagree. Of course, it could be made optional. And the argument that it carries little info isn't an argument for showing no info. It's an argument for showing more or better info. ___ And yes, the info can be improved. In my case (Dired+, files+.el), it shows this, for any listing: z:/path/to/some/subdir: files 157/1659 space used 34111 available 101612836 `files 157/1659' shows the # of files currently shown (visible) in the current subdir listing (157), compared to the # of files in the main dir (1659). And that `files 157/1659' is a link/button. Mouseover tells you: Files shown / total in directory [RET, mouse-1: more info] And clicking or RET shows you complete info about that subdir. E.g.: z:/path/to/some/subdir ---------------------- File Type: Directory Permissions: drwxrwxrwx Time of last access: Wed Jul 25 08:26:24 2018 (Pacific Daylight Time= ) Time of last modification: Wed Jul 25 08:26:24 2018 (Pacific Daylight Time= ) Time of last status change: Wed Jul 25 08:26:16 2018 (Pacific Daylight Time= ) Number of links: 1 User ID (UID): 37686 Group ID (GID): 513 Inode: 281464976926869 Device number: 315264003 Similarly, "space used 34111 available 101612836" is a link/button. Mouseover tells you: Kbytes used in directory, Kbytes available on disk And the same info (see above) is shown when you click or use RET. ___ And let's not forget that when Dired details are hidden (`('), the line isn't shown at all. (IMO, details should be hidden, not shown, by default.) From unknown Sun Jun 22 15:25:59 2025 X-Loop: help-debbugs@gnu.org Subject: bug#23812: 25.0.95; Minor glitch in dired listing due to non English host language Resent-From: Lars Ingebrigtsen Original-Sender: "Debbugs-submit" Resent-CC: bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org Resent-Date: Thu, 17 Dec 2020 11:21:01 +0000 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-Sender: help-debbugs@gnu.org X-GNU-PR-Message: followup 23812 X-GNU-PR-Package: emacs X-GNU-PR-Keywords: To: Eli Zaretskii Cc: lele@metapensiero.it, 23812@debbugs.gnu.org Received: via spool by 23812-submit@debbugs.gnu.org id=B23812.16082040263535 (code B ref 23812); Thu, 17 Dec 2020 11:21:01 +0000 Received: (at 23812) by debbugs.gnu.org; 17 Dec 2020 11:20:26 +0000 Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:34835 helo=debbugs.gnu.org) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1kprKc-0000ux-8y for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Thu, 17 Dec 2020 06:20:26 -0500 Received: from quimby.gnus.org ([95.216.78.240]:50642) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1kprKX-0000uc-F8 for 23812@debbugs.gnu.org; Thu, 17 Dec 2020 06:20:25 -0500 DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; q=dns/txt; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gnus.org; s=20200322; h=Content-Type:MIME-Version:Message-ID:In-Reply-To:Date: References:Subject:Cc:To:From:Sender:Reply-To:Content-Transfer-Encoding: Content-ID:Content-Description:Resent-Date:Resent-From:Resent-Sender: Resent-To:Resent-Cc:Resent-Message-ID:List-Id:List-Help:List-Unsubscribe: List-Subscribe:List-Post:List-Owner:List-Archive; bh=e/F7mZTRbBAVt66RZAJUjBQC5/P+oeKIy/Qq156jbdU=; b=D2uuYXKt/1qhrpvzvm+9jRPCAb aBPUahopLArXIM0GjCWEqTM/zHdJPrAwoN8I6BClO5VDZXnbCzVNZc8a22YVsgGDvxBd27mt6zQP7 fHyCfxdBVNyElzBVsGisY1brYfrG6y8xHYaeF9fqRI3pc+mrPxsgNpaEfic2JjFvQa0g=; Received: from cm-84.212.202.86.getinternet.no ([84.212.202.86] helo=xo) by quimby.gnus.org with esmtpsa (TLS1.3:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.92) (envelope-from ) id 1kprKP-0006tI-Ar; Thu, 17 Dec 2020 12:20:15 +0100 From: Lars Ingebrigtsen References: <87a8ifhri8.fsf@metapensiero.it> <87lfdzzgt2.fsf@gnus.org> <837dpjau9s.fsf@gnu.org> Face: iVBORw0KGgoAAAANSUhEUgAAADAAAAAwAgMAAAAqbBEUAAAABGdBTUEAALGPC/xhBQAAACBj SFJNAAB6JgAAgIQAAPoAAACA6AAAdTAAAOpgAAA6mAAAF3CculE8AAAADFBMVEVMPz6tSELAp5r/ ///wg2LlAAAAAWJLR0QDEQxM8gAAAAd0SU1FB+QMEQsKDJNYZY8AAAGdSURBVCjPRZHNatwwFIWP xNh0tHKHcRhm5ZYQEj+FYlIoWanFGmhW3TQkfgrHq5KVY0JoZ+UGzxDfp+yRXajA+H7cc390BAAL u61xASRwib6yhsAvnE/eO7sJUQJEnudmQRiq+BDgG0inPsi8L7Ew6PNZVm6YyXIzyZgyyP41KIHl f1nu2DqduqXldsinOc6XKWU5eqgAWalcFfaMXFpmu/1bAe4UIdr9vsK7FdYTOM7PcsrU2qKQMVzh Lqy+KDZNpn8w4jD1eiESLhfzdy0iQeGMSPN49hNxnUA+5yzVinkLqc9NvYaeamQ4N00rzZx5oywL 8ED4paVOpKvuFeFRy8Pd8WmJyOLlpchZ2i1hmDkyVOUr4TmAsg6dIPaES91adD1Swlj09KGDP/Go Dl9bwkcjR2YO07OsYhkiVAOWyXvoWEbgZqB1Cf50Mn6BPNvwYomWkQ1axdDhKb7cEYLDgNXKw3+f QWldQvX4EBJFbBLEY3rLIquDPycyZLBwzQzjVLOaQfoAeYDtXgZOpW9iUe0nZ+krjZNKpJ3h8Bfz d5OVvNxeIQAAACV0RVh0ZGF0ZTpjcmVhdGUAMjAyMC0xMi0xN1QxMToxMDoxMiswMDowML0ynvcA AAAldEVYdGRhdGU6bW9kaWZ5ADIwMjAtMTItMTdUMTE6MTA6MTIrMDA6MDDMbyZLAAAAAElFTkSu QmCC X-Now-Playing: Themselves's _CrownsDown_: "gangster of disbelief" Date: Thu, 17 Dec 2020 12:20:11 +0100 In-Reply-To: <837dpjau9s.fsf@gnu.org> (Eli Zaretskii's message of "Tue, 15 Dec 2020 18:50:07 +0200") Message-ID: <87sg84llw4.fsf@gnus.org> User-Agent: Gnus/5.13 (Gnus v5.13) Emacs/28.0.50 (gnu/linux) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain X-Spam-Report: Spam detection software, running on the system "quimby.gnus.org", has NOT identified this incoming email as spam. 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Content preview: Eli Zaretskii writes: >> > /home/lele/something: >> > total used in directorye 8 available 24407396 [...] Content analysis details: (-2.9 points, 5.0 required) pts rule name description ---- ---------------------- -------------------------------------------------- -1.0 ALL_TRUSTED Passed through trusted hosts only via SMTP -1.9 BAYES_00 BODY: Bayes spam probability is 0 to 1% [score: 0.0000] X-Spam-Score: 0.0 (/) X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18 Precedence: list List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Sender: "Debbugs-submit" X-Spam-Score: -1.0 (-) Eli Zaretskii writes: >> > /home/lele/something: >> > total used in directorye 8 available 24407396 [...] > I think we should delete everything except the number at the end. I do, too. Well, I think the entire line should be removed, and the "free disk" number displayed somewhere else. -- (domestic pets only, the antidote for overdose, milk.) bloggy blog: http://lars.ingebrigtsen.no From unknown Sun Jun 22 15:25:59 2025 X-Loop: help-debbugs@gnu.org Subject: bug#23812: 25.0.95; Minor glitch in dired listing due to non English host language Resent-From: Lars Ingebrigtsen Original-Sender: "Debbugs-submit" Resent-CC: bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org Resent-Date: Wed, 01 Dec 2021 22:29:02 +0000 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-Sender: help-debbugs@gnu.org X-GNU-PR-Message: followup 23812 X-GNU-PR-Package: emacs X-GNU-PR-Keywords: To: Eli Zaretskii Cc: lele@metapensiero.it, 23812@debbugs.gnu.org Received: via spool by 23812-submit@debbugs.gnu.org id=B23812.163839772223598 (code B ref 23812); Wed, 01 Dec 2021 22:29:02 +0000 Received: (at 23812) by debbugs.gnu.org; 1 Dec 2021 22:28:42 +0000 Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:46002 helo=debbugs.gnu.org) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1msY5i-00068X-FB for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Wed, 01 Dec 2021 17:28:42 -0500 Received: from quimby.gnus.org ([95.216.78.240]:59586) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1msY5g-00068E-8e for 23812@debbugs.gnu.org; Wed, 01 Dec 2021 17:28:41 -0500 DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; q=dns/txt; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gnus.org; s=20200322; h=Content-Type:MIME-Version:Message-ID:In-Reply-To:Date: References:Subject:Cc:To:From:Sender:Reply-To:Content-Transfer-Encoding: Content-ID:Content-Description:Resent-Date:Resent-From:Resent-Sender: Resent-To:Resent-Cc:Resent-Message-ID:List-Id:List-Help:List-Unsubscribe: List-Subscribe:List-Post:List-Owner:List-Archive; bh=ycXmO0p3vKUaaOm3dwoI4lqv8YvB0biJs0FiecttO8g=; b=ZebyJtv4sGaWZsIQmcyRC6EcPn Tt1DrARD6R42+Zz3XVaa+0qFn0aS8EsDFC5pl5/nv48WmdZU+aoQy4lbm5jpNpasnFSlK8oqI/6du GUb21pqsHYE/iDVUuW66455h5V0M6uK6/K/1hwSjWG4EDwkDXX9CVPOHk/Ael9CPHp7w=; Received: from [84.212.220.105] (helo=xo) by quimby.gnus.org with esmtpsa (TLS1.3:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.92) (envelope-from ) id 1msY5W-0003HF-Qk; Wed, 01 Dec 2021 23:28:33 +0100 From: Lars Ingebrigtsen References: <87a8ifhri8.fsf@metapensiero.it> <87lfdzzgt2.fsf@gnus.org> <837dpjau9s.fsf@gnu.org> <87sg84llw4.fsf@gnus.org> X-Now-Playing: Sleaford Mods's _All That Glue (2)_: "Reef Of Grief" Date: Wed, 01 Dec 2021 23:28:28 +0100 In-Reply-To: <87sg84llw4.fsf@gnus.org> (Lars Ingebrigtsen's message of "Thu, 17 Dec 2020 12:20:11 +0100") Message-ID: <87zgpkdkoj.fsf@gnus.org> User-Agent: Gnus/5.13 (Gnus v5.13) Emacs/29.0.50 (gnu/linux) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain X-Spam-Report: Spam detection software, running on the system "quimby.gnus.org", has NOT identified this incoming email as spam. The original message has been attached to this so you can view it or label similar future email. If you have any questions, see @@CONTACT_ADDRESS@@ for details. Content preview: Lars Ingebrigtsen writes: >>> > /home/lele/something: >>> > total used in directorye 8 available 24407396 > > [...] > >> I think we should delete everything except the number at the end. > > I do, too. Well, I think the entire [...] Content analysis details: (-2.9 points, 5.0 required) pts rule name description ---- ---------------------- -------------------------------------------------- -1.0 ALL_TRUSTED Passed through trusted hosts only via SMTP -1.9 BAYES_00 BODY: Bayes spam probability is 0 to 1% [score: 0.0000] X-Spam-Score: -2.3 (--) X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18 Precedence: list List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Sender: "Debbugs-submit" X-Spam-Score: -3.3 (---) Lars Ingebrigtsen writes: >>> > /home/lele/something: >>> > total used in directorye 8 available 24407396 > > [...] > >> I think we should delete everything except the number at the end. > > I do, too. Well, I think the entire line should be removed, and the > "free disk" number displayed somewhere else. I've now introduced a new user option, `dired-free-space' to control this, and defaulting it to showing only the available space (in the first line). -- (domestic pets only, the antidote for overdose, milk.) bloggy blog: http://lars.ingebrigtsen.no From debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Wed Dec 01 17:28:46 2021 Received: (at control) by debbugs.gnu.org; 1 Dec 2021 22:28:47 +0000 Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:46005 helo=debbugs.gnu.org) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1msY5m-00068n-Lm for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Wed, 01 Dec 2021 17:28:46 -0500 Received: from quimby.gnus.org ([95.216.78.240]:59602) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1msY5k-00068N-Vf for control@debbugs.gnu.org; Wed, 01 Dec 2021 17:28:45 -0500 DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; q=dns/txt; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gnus.org; s=20200322; h=Subject:From:To:Message-Id:Date:Sender:Reply-To:Cc: MIME-Version:Content-Type:Content-Transfer-Encoding:Content-ID: Content-Description:Resent-Date:Resent-From:Resent-Sender:Resent-To:Resent-Cc :Resent-Message-ID:In-Reply-To:References:List-Id:List-Help:List-Unsubscribe: List-Subscribe:List-Post:List-Owner:List-Archive; bh=H0OZzJLC9pdMmIrYYzJkvojsR16iUZTxPoGPAlIZz7c=; b=CGtk0pH4GL52/dHr/PHTEXJRe+ VQhiv9WKqINSEwMem8xqu8DMOuuaYTAfv7gC9yr5RT0ogH7PMQXsr0jRnOMmb6vXCIKMZMMr3zxt+ Sux+HZ+uNI13G4T82c9sbQBZYZBTOobdigKUzs8Wwuq2/L/3U6Fyly+HuZu5Ixhh7NG8=; Received: from [84.212.220.105] (helo=xo) by quimby.gnus.org with esmtpsa (TLS1.3:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.92) (envelope-from ) id 1msY5d-0003HO-5y for control@debbugs.gnu.org; Wed, 01 Dec 2021 23:28:39 +0100 Date: Wed, 01 Dec 2021 23:28:36 +0100 Message-Id: <87y254dkob.fsf@gnus.org> To: control@debbugs.gnu.org From: Lars Ingebrigtsen Subject: control message for bug #23812 X-Spam-Report: Spam detection software, running on the system "quimby.gnus.org", has NOT identified this incoming email as spam. The original message has been attached to this so you can view it or label similar future email. If you have any questions, see @@CONTACT_ADDRESS@@ for details. Content preview: close 23812 29.1 quit Content analysis details: (-2.9 points, 5.0 required) pts rule name description ---- ---------------------- -------------------------------------------------- -1.0 ALL_TRUSTED Passed through trusted hosts only via SMTP -1.9 BAYES_00 BODY: Bayes spam probability is 0 to 1% [score: 0.0000] X-Spam-Score: -2.3 (--) X-Debbugs-Envelope-To: control X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18 Precedence: list List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Sender: "Debbugs-submit" X-Spam-Score: -3.3 (---) close 23812 29.1 quit