From debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Fri Jun 10 04:23:20 2016 Received: (at submit) by debbugs.gnu.org; 10 Jun 2016 08:23:21 +0000 Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:35099 helo=debbugs.gnu.org) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1bBHiq-0004tB-Mt for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Fri, 10 Jun 2016 04:23:20 -0400 Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([208.118.235.92]:53313) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1bBHio-0004sx-Ng for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Fri, 10 Jun 2016 04:23:19 -0400 Received: from Debian-exim by eggs.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1bBHii-0001JX-OO for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Fri, 10 Jun 2016 04:23:13 -0400 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.3.2 (2011-06-06) on eggs.gnu.org X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=0.8 required=5.0 tests=BAYES_50 autolearn=disabled version=3.3.2 Received: from lists.gnu.org ([2001:4830:134:3::11]:46933) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1bBHii-0001J2-LV for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Fri, 10 Jun 2016 04:23:12 -0400 Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([2001:4830:134:3::10]:44283) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1bBHig-0008QC-Bn for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Fri, 10 Jun 2016 04:23:11 -0400 Received: from Debian-exim by eggs.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1bBHib-0001HC-9Q for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Fri, 10 Jun 2016 04:23:10 -0400 Received: from mout.kundenserver.de ([217.72.192.74]:60692) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1bBHia-0001H2-Ut for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Fri, 10 Jun 2016 04:23:05 -0400 Received: from [192.168.178.35] ([77.6.167.218]) by mrelayeu.kundenserver.de (mreue103) with ESMTPSA (Nemesis) id 0LtUuK-1bcowk3lcC-010ulI for ; Fri, 10 Jun 2016 10:23:03 +0200 To: bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org From: =?UTF-8?Q?Andreas_R=c3=b6hler?= Subject: [feature request] eww allow multiple buffer Message-ID: <575A79D9.9080200@easy-emacs.de> Date: Fri, 10 Jun 2016 10:27:05 +0200 User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; Linux i686; rv:38.0) Gecko/20100101 Icedove/38.8.0 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Provags-ID: V03:K0:8hJObEZoB3U/jKwkYuBZTdrl7vYVsxKp/phA1632GsvDZo/GV2v /UVt7kOtDzWqOnjlw9RsyQ3i6ntW8JRh6U/iNBRKKDAcO1fGZ5g6wABMM1wmmKdJ/Rllcwq N/kuim6jhC9Z+HFz8AhYkt5SsaXlU8bd2dDl7n6j+YKZeiMxrpgnUoFbmlXLHqZpq8HzheP fzQUNXtf28SkIMcDg9Y7A== X-UI-Out-Filterresults: notjunk:1;V01:K0:a93EnQun6wk=:UNqHe588cO48FrkfDrGoNo sn976bhEye3fFFNgR5eYskQVkUe1CJu8eMdy9zw5wOEWEBa5cPkZE6IGEE9pt9aYREtD4zD70 uGlQSA0gdMZwdxLqmAp/ANuPAP0eF5SJ2OLWFryjgR12q5rfOtt9KakniDD0+d97oSk/QUNMA b9PiS/tj/Abd+WkOI4toGcxFSgnxUthrCmK8uB06vpMSYsb6I9T1y0BtIfclabxGUcyoXiFHy vaSk7DuiUfgRAaXUv/P5fzuiuNoljps4POJjydErjUACw0RXTGkM5u5yKzWXiSq5nxbkIYEJ2 F00SsdUC4kgSgjNKPpls4XipGfmkp1Ku1XxtIxp6C441h/iiGsHZHiXroEaajC8UKp6EGLH0I 4AguqZ7XrBCNMq/9prhZ0n9AJz+89slpFeFQ3VxUrH/94pKAjPY7scN2aMdZIxQojbHmE7xqO skkPJHy74JX4UIZ0janZe9VB3Bw5FTm2EyBaAOBuBjTFXjkG7XayHFUKKMyHYVsZ2aE/Oe9vG eCNKYezGcHhgfV1oWyTqcKlAZdiZgxdLa3Z1DqmW+mXJBZmaY0toOyzrQgygNKkX3x+LWDusD egB4a8R+J9TbPvv+FM/+6ezUAUx1fitF7qxFNWpRnjI64kh0hqef18arqruqcPk7hX5Xu+VJl dH9vzEUP7Hv0ptbtSxCVO6aLiZWtoZqwuvTU9F/yHymLfzInLTHvVqN8cAI6HHx0FaKLmRfv5 Pebn7U8d2jy6E9Tm X-detected-operating-system: by eggs.gnu.org: GNU/Linux 2.2.x-3.x [generic] X-detected-operating-system: by eggs.gnu.org: GNU/Linux 2.6.x X-Received-From: 2001:4830:134:3::11 X-Spam-Score: -5.0 (-----) X-Debbugs-Envelope-To: submit X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18 Precedence: list List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Sender: "Debbugs-submit" X-Spam-Score: -5.0 (-----) Hi, I'm using eww to navigate running a test2speech app sentence-by-sentence. Thanks a lot enabling that! Now would like to open a bunch of stuff that way, not just a single page. The buffer name should indicate the source somehow. "Instead of hard-coded "*eww*", add some initials from URL for example. So when opening http://www.gnu.org/ buffer-name might appear as "*eww-go*" Thanks again, Andreas From debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Fri Jun 10 10:04:07 2016 Received: (at 23738) by debbugs.gnu.org; 10 Jun 2016 14:04:07 +0000 Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:35902 helo=debbugs.gnu.org) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1bBN2c-0001Dc-GH for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Fri, 10 Jun 2016 10:04:07 -0400 Received: from mail-pa0-f51.google.com ([209.85.220.51]:35708) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1bBN2X-0001D6-AI for 23738@debbugs.gnu.org; Fri, 10 Jun 2016 10:04:05 -0400 Received: by mail-pa0-f51.google.com with SMTP id hl6so23901584pac.2 for <23738@debbugs.gnu.org>; Fri, 10 Jun 2016 07:04:01 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=lifelogs.com; s=google; h=from:to:cc:subject:organization:references:mail-copies-to :gmane-reply-to-list:date:in-reply-to:message-id:user-agent :mime-version:content-transfer-encoding; bh=1pnP549H6ZeIj4nCgdB6+cNPMZ9f+p4BumzjituG1PI=; b=GfarB3GT3MTvZYzCb4htuljL/5insKRZNcLz1mlwhV0wCs2rRk+9ABpgL8CPV5WUnb wtxcvvVJBoiht1wlgGMY4ZHmhPLmphOtDrHZV06XGVgaegju8QzydxoP1DQHHLifutvX 7hGDrQnkzRwCD58UCvOpgrmOpCZ8VbDHZhqWU= X-Google-DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=1e100.net; s=20130820; h=x-gm-message-state:from:to:cc:subject:organization:references :mail-copies-to:gmane-reply-to-list:date:in-reply-to:message-id :user-agent:mime-version:content-transfer-encoding; bh=1pnP549H6ZeIj4nCgdB6+cNPMZ9f+p4BumzjituG1PI=; b=fdwjEqfNn3ULdcqEHpbuDc17qcyL2cvYamVuI1Vf9BQuMdOviSKj9WB5MW/tY16rmT Mqv2+xVhu69PDoh6pj5B8s79AZUoszgh+HS+5zZ2PlujUFnzX7m7YzKIy11WyG7aUTAy rCU56XL2havz6fYMe5RGoer4qAUOahpuwZBgmJ3CdTL7UfJZ2afFh1YeY+BjQF/SjqM3 D0PrZXqPbJRbxKXp/DtttKPlu00AGJF3wRk1qMYCPj/o1OXucvBvNYaNH8uSFmfkTmTi WTBAZKi8kpdLaXWT5YtDFvblG8oSdxWwvYwHfhicIeIukT1J179k4M1HIir3dLdYJtvv 8EFA== X-Gm-Message-State: ALyK8tIftWeOGwwjA+Yk+x1X4Uo/3xmdb1Iwm7qyJXdr7kpYD9R3Gh4sDFEpPTdVve1X3A== X-Received: by 10.66.27.80 with SMTP id r16mr2485538pag.102.1465567435465; Fri, 10 Jun 2016 07:03:55 -0700 (PDT) Received: from flea (c-98-229-60-157.hsd1.ma.comcast.net. [98.229.60.157]) by smtp.gmail.com with ESMTPSA id x67sm18112374pff.47.2016.06.10.07.03.52 (version=TLS1_2 cipher=ECDHE-RSA-AES128-GCM-SHA256 bits=128/128); Fri, 10 Jun 2016 07:03:54 -0700 (PDT) From: Ted Zlatanov To: Andreas =?iso-8859-1?Q?R=F6hler?= Subject: Re: bug#23738: [feature request] eww allow multiple buffer Organization: =?utf-8?B?0KLQtdC+0LTQvtGAINCX0LvQsNGC0LDQvdC+0LI=?= @ Cienfuegos References: <575A79D9.9080200@easy-emacs.de> X-Face: bd.DQ~'29fIs`T_%O%C\g%6jW)yi[zuz6; d4V0`@y-~$#3P_Ng{@m+e4o<4P'#(_GJQ%TT= D}[Ep*b!\e,fBZ'j_+#"Ps?s2!4H2-Y"sx" Mail-Copies-To: never Gmane-Reply-To-List: yes Date: Fri, 10 Jun 2016 10:03:49 -0400 In-Reply-To: <575A79D9.9080200@easy-emacs.de> ("Andreas \=\?iso-8859-1\?Q\?R\?\= \=\?iso-8859-1\?Q\?\=F6hler\=22's\?\= message of "Fri, 10 Jun 2016 10:27:05 +0200") Message-ID: <87inxhp2d6.fsf@lifelogs.com> User-Agent: Gnus/5.13 (Gnus v5.13) Emacs/25.1.50 (gnu/linux) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-Spam-Score: -0.7 (/) X-Debbugs-Envelope-To: 23738 Cc: 23738@debbugs.gnu.org X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18 Precedence: list List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Sender: "Debbugs-submit" X-Spam-Score: -0.7 (/) On Fri, 10 Jun 2016 10:27:05 +0200 Andreas R=F6hler wrote:=20 AR> I'm using eww to navigate running a test2speech app sentence-by-sentenc= e. Thanks AR> a lot enabling that! AR> Now would like to open a bunch of stuff that way, not just a single pag= e. The AR> buffer name should indicate the source somehow. "Instead of hard-coded = "*eww*", AR> add some initials from URL for example. AR> So when opening http://www.gnu.org/ AR> buffer-name might appear as "*eww-go*" You can currently use `rename-buffer' to do this manually and AFAICT things work fine. I'm not sure there's value in making it automatic because it would generate a lot of buffers and code complexity. Maybe it should be a tab system inside the EWW buffer instead, to keep things contained. Ted From debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Tue Jan 24 16:42:16 2017 Received: (at 23738) by debbugs.gnu.org; 24 Jan 2017 21:42:16 +0000 Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:40893 helo=debbugs.gnu.org) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1cW8r1-0003D6-RT for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Tue, 24 Jan 2017 16:42:16 -0500 Received: from hermes.netfonds.no ([80.91.224.195]:50876) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1cW8qz-0003Cx-BX for 23738@debbugs.gnu.org; Tue, 24 Jan 2017 16:42:14 -0500 Received: from 2.150.49.21.tmi.telenormobil.no ([2.150.49.21] helo=mouse) by hermes.netfonds.no with esmtpsa (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1cW8qu-0001RL-3b; Tue, 24 Jan 2017 22:42:10 +0100 From: Lars Ingebrigtsen To: Andreas =?utf-8?Q?R=C3=B6hler?= Subject: Re: bug#23738: [feature request] eww allow multiple buffer References: <575A79D9.9080200@easy-emacs.de> Date: Tue, 24 Jan 2017 22:42:02 +0100 In-Reply-To: <575A79D9.9080200@easy-emacs.de> ("Andreas \=\?utf-8\?Q\?R\=C3\=B6h\?\= \=\?utf-8\?Q\?ler\=22's\?\= message of "Fri, 10 Jun 2016 10:27:05 +0200") Message-ID: <87wpdkkudx.fsf@gnus.org> User-Agent: Gnus/5.13 (Gnus v5.13) Emacs/26.0.50 (gnu/linux) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-Spam-Score: 0.0 (/) X-Debbugs-Envelope-To: 23738 Cc: 23738@debbugs.gnu.org X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18 Precedence: list List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Sender: "Debbugs-submit" X-Spam-Score: 0.0 (/) Andreas R=C3=B6hler writes: > I'm using eww to navigate running a test2speech app > sentence-by-sentence. Thanks a lot enabling that! > > Now would like to open a bunch of stuff that way, not just a single > page. The buffer name should indicate the source somehow. "Instead of > hard-coded "*eww*", add some initials from URL for example. > > So when opening http://www.gnu.org/ > > buffer-name might appear as "*eww-go*" I've now altered `eww-browse-url' when used with a `new-window' parameter so that it'll create new buffer names based on the host. It'll look like *eww-www.gnu.org*, though. --=20 (domestic pets only, the antidote for overdose, milk.) bloggy blog: http://lars.ingebrigtsen.no From debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Tue Jan 24 16:42:22 2017 Received: (at control) by debbugs.gnu.org; 24 Jan 2017 21:42:22 +0000 Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:40896 helo=debbugs.gnu.org) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1cW8r8-0003DO-2p for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Tue, 24 Jan 2017 16:42:22 -0500 Received: from hermes.netfonds.no ([80.91.224.195]:50883) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1cW8r6-0003DH-Sj for control@debbugs.gnu.org; Tue, 24 Jan 2017 16:42:21 -0500 Received: from 2.150.49.21.tmi.telenormobil.no ([2.150.49.21] helo=mouse) by hermes.netfonds.no with esmtpsa (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1cW8r4-00023M-KY for control@debbugs.gnu.org; Tue, 24 Jan 2017 22:42:20 +0100 Date: Tue, 24 Jan 2017 22:42:12 +0100 Message-Id: <87vat4kudn.fsf@gnus.org> To: control@debbugs.gnu.org From: Lars Ingebrigtsen Subject: control message for bug #23738 X-Spam-Score: 0.0 (/) X-Debbugs-Envelope-To: control X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18 Precedence: list List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Sender: "Debbugs-submit" X-Spam-Score: 0.0 (/) tags 23738 fixed close 23738 From debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Tue Jan 24 17:39:02 2017 Received: (at 23738) by debbugs.gnu.org; 24 Jan 2017 22:39:02 +0000 Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:40978 helo=debbugs.gnu.org) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1cW9jv-0002w8-AM for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Tue, 24 Jan 2017 17:39:02 -0500 Received: from mail-qk0-f169.google.com ([209.85.220.169]:34443) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1cW9jq-0002vs-JI for 23738@debbugs.gnu.org; Tue, 24 Jan 2017 17:38:58 -0500 Received: by mail-qk0-f169.google.com with SMTP id j126so38260613qkf.1 for <23738@debbugs.gnu.org>; Tue, 24 Jan 2017 14:38:54 -0800 (PST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=udel-edu.20150623.gappssmtp.com; s=20150623; h=from:to:cc:subject:references:date:in-reply-to:message-id :user-agent:mime-version:content-transfer-encoding; bh=cWSlba2KiU9ofeV0E7+Lze3MdmEJynw7qlD5gx/BcNs=; b=rsFvopEkTLZ+HC3u9C9jMdJEcZl1vaHwatjt006kBOJVKBE/u8uYlTnvOqklZaU+57 jWXo0N6Kcaxwzv04s4rUa++qY6CHXV3gPcTwDhOKLdvhV3TCAPaaie7uQBvDJ/sszCdU eAB5QY8fVccoZEH7EcJTz2xosvCUwRLb9hV+fj5jbnzeLjvz+5fnhEBazzxJ5PpCbZ/c oDcFz+vNT6C0H7qYvUIIuQ2bvacpfC3pvReEPGixMGEFOUi0UqM3BWzav4HXCzYLDTCZ Q++pSU4klOCFAG3WkXpe4tguRgz6/B1IJhfxntlSVCCTcsDFUkNlQ7I/E1Qv59CgSvvW GkqA== X-Google-DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=1e100.net; s=20161025; h=x-gm-message-state:from:to:cc:subject:references:date:in-reply-to :message-id:user-agent:mime-version:content-transfer-encoding; bh=cWSlba2KiU9ofeV0E7+Lze3MdmEJynw7qlD5gx/BcNs=; b=VzFWxAaTkJrNKqDl1MODpgmHvBARsKtrJ82VRCruGrqQiJjaYU9nnaEPUL16jO/XzH F0KYLu1oaaCJ6MQ/Zt890/uiFMK+KUlz0n7DDbPVy8w4tditdF8xIdbPlwFmrL22wji+ DQBlMR6HTQF65Cb8kFcnAkj5BiTnlVuGIdhrttQWHKEUhajE1V7vhCELPbz5RFVwvJiA Rjw8ERR68zZTKhH/6AViUry3TYXrarDixeZydo4FCBvDNS6mReGCQ7fis3gWwpyNB7Wx vADjjoocahA6FAD+QdUg6fJCU/m9ewfwgEbT7P4hY6b6LA0uiTEK8S6wl9wo45SdISCl FDag== X-Gm-Message-State: AIkVDXLVfGdK88kpn5oSIv1oJTgcfPJ1D+HhiE0WrR/cNLnxeiGRSpeTN7Hg9Hg4ordDIgD9 X-Received: by 10.55.45.129 with SMTP id t123mr30400573qkh.311.1485297529119; Tue, 24 Jan 2017 14:38:49 -0800 (PST) Received: from holos.localdomain (pool-173-67-40-97.bltmmd.fios.verizon.net. [173.67.40.97]) by smtp.gmail.com with ESMTPSA id y189sm17144527qky.39.2017.01.24.14.38.47 (version=TLS1_2 cipher=ECDHE-RSA-AES128-GCM-SHA256 bits=128/128); Tue, 24 Jan 2017 14:38:48 -0800 (PST) Received: by holos.localdomain (Postfix, from userid 1000) id 4589966372; Tue, 24 Jan 2017 17:38:47 -0500 (EST) From: Mark Oteiza To: Lars Ingebrigtsen Subject: Re: bug#23738: [feature request] eww allow multiple buffer References: <575A79D9.9080200@easy-emacs.de> <87wpdkkudx.fsf@gnus.org> Date: Tue, 24 Jan 2017 17:38:47 -0500 In-Reply-To: <87wpdkkudx.fsf@gnus.org> (Lars Ingebrigtsen's message of "Tue, 24 Jan 2017 22:42:02 +0100") Message-ID: <877f5kgk20.fsf@udel.edu> User-Agent: Gnus/5.13 (Gnus v5.13) Emacs/26.0.50 (gnu/linux) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-Spam-Score: 0.5 (/) X-Debbugs-Envelope-To: 23738 Cc: Andreas =?utf-8?Q?R=C3=B6hler?= , 23738@debbugs.gnu.org X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18 Precedence: list List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Sender: "Debbugs-submit" X-Spam-Score: 0.5 (/) Lars Ingebrigtsen writes: > Andreas R=C3=B6hler writes: > >> I'm using eww to navigate running a test2speech app >> sentence-by-sentence. Thanks a lot enabling that! >> >> Now would like to open a bunch of stuff that way, not just a single >> page. The buffer name should indicate the source somehow. "Instead of >> hard-coded "*eww*", add some initials from URL for example. >> >> So when opening http://www.gnu.org/ >> >> buffer-name might appear as "*eww-go*" > > I've now altered `eww-browse-url' when used with a `new-window' > parameter so that it'll create new buffer names based on the host. > It'll look like *eww-www.gnu.org*, though. What happens when I navigate to another site in the same buffer? Then the buffer name is deceptive. Both s and S show the site and/or title, and the header line of the eww buffer always has both, so this change seems strange IMHO. From debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Tue Jan 24 17:41:51 2017 Received: (at 23738) by debbugs.gnu.org; 24 Jan 2017 22:41:52 +0000 Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:40999 helo=debbugs.gnu.org) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1cW9mh-00031t-Oe for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Tue, 24 Jan 2017 17:41:51 -0500 Received: from hermes.netfonds.no ([80.91.224.195]:51386) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1cW9mf-00031l-Nw for 23738@debbugs.gnu.org; Tue, 24 Jan 2017 17:41:50 -0500 Received: from 2.150.49.21.tmi.telenormobil.no ([2.150.49.21] helo=mouse) by hermes.netfonds.no with esmtpsa (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1cW9mc-0003r7-Gq; Tue, 24 Jan 2017 23:41:48 +0100 From: Lars Ingebrigtsen To: Mark Oteiza Subject: Re: bug#23738: [feature request] eww allow multiple buffer References: <575A79D9.9080200@easy-emacs.de> <87wpdkkudx.fsf@gnus.org> <877f5kgk20.fsf@udel.edu> Date: Tue, 24 Jan 2017 23:41:40 +0100 In-Reply-To: <877f5kgk20.fsf@udel.edu> (Mark Oteiza's message of "Tue, 24 Jan 2017 17:38:47 -0500") Message-ID: <87k29kdqsb.fsf@gnus.org> User-Agent: Gnus/5.13 (Gnus v5.13) Emacs/26.0.50 (gnu/linux) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain X-Spam-Score: 0.0 (/) X-Debbugs-Envelope-To: 23738 Cc: Andreas =?utf-8?Q?R=C3=B6hler?= , 23738@debbugs.gnu.org X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18 Precedence: list List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Sender: "Debbugs-submit" X-Spam-Score: 0.0 (/) Mark Oteiza writes: > What happens when I navigate to another site in the same buffer? Then > the buffer name is deceptive. Both s and S show the site and/or title, > and the header line of the eww buffer always has both, so this change seems > strange IMHO. Hm, yes, that's true. And changing the name of the buffer as you follow links isn't very nice, either. I think. Hm... so perhaps I should revert that change unless anybody has any other thoughts on this... -- (domestic pets only, the antidote for overdose, milk.) bloggy blog: http://lars.ingebrigtsen.no From unknown Sat Jun 14 03:55:26 2025 Received: (at fakecontrol) by fakecontrolmessage; To: internal_control@debbugs.gnu.org From: Debbugs Internal Request Subject: Internal Control Message-Id: Did not alter fixed versions and reopened. Date: Tue, 24 Jan 2017 23:55:02 +0000 User-Agent: Fakemail v42.6.9 # This is a fake control message. # # The action: # Did not alter fixed versions and reopened. thanks # This fakemail brought to you by your local debbugs # administrator From debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Wed Jan 25 14:50:17 2017 Received: (at 23738) by debbugs.gnu.org; 25 Jan 2017 19:50:17 +0000 Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:43435 helo=debbugs.gnu.org) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1cWTaD-0000FL-I2 for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Wed, 25 Jan 2017 14:50:17 -0500 Received: from hermes.netfonds.no ([80.91.224.195]:44262) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1cWTaC-0000FC-99 for 23738@debbugs.gnu.org; Wed, 25 Jan 2017 14:50:16 -0500 Received: from 2.150.50.220.tmi.telenormobil.no ([2.150.50.220] helo=mouse) by hermes.netfonds.no with esmtpsa (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1cWTa9-0000ht-8I; Wed, 25 Jan 2017 20:50:15 +0100 From: Lars Ingebrigtsen To: Mark Oteiza Subject: Re: bug#23738: [feature request] eww allow multiple buffer References: <575A79D9.9080200@easy-emacs.de> <87wpdkkudx.fsf@gnus.org> <877f5kgk20.fsf@udel.edu> Date: Wed, 25 Jan 2017 20:50:07 +0100 In-Reply-To: <877f5kgk20.fsf@udel.edu> (Mark Oteiza's message of "Tue, 24 Jan 2017 17:38:47 -0500") Message-ID: <8737g6ly1c.fsf@gnus.org> User-Agent: Gnus/5.13 (Gnus v5.13) Emacs/26.0.50 (gnu/linux) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain X-Spam-Score: 0.0 (/) X-Debbugs-Envelope-To: 23738 Cc: Andreas =?utf-8?Q?R=C3=B6hler?= , 23738@debbugs.gnu.org X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18 Precedence: list List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Sender: "Debbugs-submit" X-Spam-Score: 0.0 (/) Mark Oteiza writes: > What happens when I navigate to another site in the same buffer? Then > the buffer name is deceptive. Both s and S show the site and/or title, > and the header line of the eww buffer always has both, so this change seems > strange IMHO. On the other hand, we also have other buffers that have names that may become misleading after a while. For instance: (buffer-name) -> "*unsent wide reply to Mark Oteiza*" Even if I remove you from the headers, the buffer doesn't change name. :-) So there's precedence. Another option is to say that if the user has called eww in open-in-a-new-window-mode, then all further RETs in the buffer should also pop to new windows... Then the buffer name would always be correct. The third option is to always rename the buffer in these cases. The fourth is to revert to the previous meaningless buffer names, i.e., *eww*<254> etc. Opinions? -- (domestic pets only, the antidote for overdose, milk.) bloggy blog: http://lars.ingebrigtsen.no From debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Wed Jan 25 15:09:37 2017 Received: (at 23738) by debbugs.gnu.org; 25 Jan 2017 20:09:37 +0000 Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:43494 helo=debbugs.gnu.org) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1cWTsu-0002SC-Hl for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Wed, 25 Jan 2017 15:09:37 -0500 Received: from mail-ot0-f176.google.com ([74.125.82.176]:34125) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1cWTsp-0002Rw-49 for 23738@debbugs.gnu.org; Wed, 25 Jan 2017 15:09:34 -0500 Received: by mail-ot0-f176.google.com with SMTP id f9so160382093otd.1 for <23738@debbugs.gnu.org>; Wed, 25 Jan 2017 12:09:31 -0800 (PST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20161025; h=mime-version:sender:in-reply-to:references:from:date:message-id :subject:to:cc; bh=zFETLOGsWeq3QJIL3QK5udpo56mwrox9VA4zpasZ4Lg=; b=A9O4PTgexo9oT8SE42SWmeUOC5P22H2DJK6kzmGjC9BTK/Cu9TGgeN4VYqlHB5a5DU MZ38CeR1I1gLn3E4WAlNbU9ndfH7K4+dpeQmDp9rmVG9jh7+F78CSSYFwx0WYxOCQPPP wgUPW04tgByFS088t1uzXLgxNVsN4PXE1eglSzms+ODPFHU6OURVLk812uuahZuC32jm hShYWkiqMVpVeVKDO1kZmupXvTUqhA2LBky+Ncp+fUEKctcsiRMlLzMrRUasYwP5TJ/r AwNHWvFpiJc7gMzb263qYj6l8SSlvNtqMkpCbd2vvX/M5uVMn7jS+yJH86/rS9XDiy9w 11uA== X-Google-DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=1e100.net; s=20161025; h=x-gm-message-state:mime-version:sender:in-reply-to:references:from :date:message-id:subject:to:cc; bh=zFETLOGsWeq3QJIL3QK5udpo56mwrox9VA4zpasZ4Lg=; b=puIhctc4/9TauLBLHqqq2EgfxzzMC/JjFoj2o3MhkYQ2j3w/u0XiBcrxORWHBzHSq+ X2qDil7WD9PIgIuNdWaMPd8SLq79hb16OupNat2bcSgVDTDkhHzbuS4wO1FfrGaKhoo3 l/LSQKQ2/FtmSl5KWUSggSvTLSjRqj0D7hswbIYF6/Lj2PsU0ApKe9IiDRS2q5UGZc1q 7qgXra68lEqt+wPifHJR2O2Le8afsR6qftpDc5UW5KQgV5WfQ6wEQ81IfmIPdQZ2EIQk RhYOw+YajiG2B1l1/j3KbmEq6HZmRWuIrCxZFbiuZs9GflAmXslaUBwWC60mcSlMUaSw wwOw== X-Gm-Message-State: AIkVDXJ9viWggNGY7twCHyhMlphGchBUOjfk0vqUdoXDL1e2XDFfb17xHfJbHd8VttguGeGEbx/e2qSqJh7cOQ== X-Received: by 10.157.29.100 with SMTP id m91mr22897977otm.6.1485374965478; Wed, 25 Jan 2017 12:09:25 -0800 (PST) MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.157.21.117 with HTTP; Wed, 25 Jan 2017 12:09:24 -0800 (PST) In-Reply-To: <8737g6ly1c.fsf@gnus.org> References: <575A79D9.9080200@easy-emacs.de> <87wpdkkudx.fsf@gnus.org> <877f5kgk20.fsf@udel.edu> <8737g6ly1c.fsf@gnus.org> From: Noam Postavsky Date: Wed, 25 Jan 2017 15:09:24 -0500 X-Google-Sender-Auth: oF7hng8f8eUqvaKJ056XzAN2ivM Message-ID: Subject: Re: bug#23738: [feature request] eww allow multiple buffer To: Lars Ingebrigtsen Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 X-Spam-Score: 0.5 (/) X-Debbugs-Envelope-To: 23738 Cc: Mark Oteiza , 23738@debbugs.gnu.org X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18 Precedence: list List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Sender: "Debbugs-submit" X-Spam-Score: 0.5 (/) On Wed, Jan 25, 2017 at 2:50 PM, Lars Ingebrigtsen wrote: > Mark Oteiza writes: > >> What happens when I navigate to another site in the same buffer? Then >> the buffer name is deceptive. Both s and S show the site and/or title, >> and the header line of the eww buffer always has both, so this change seems >> strange IMHO. > > On the other hand, we also have other buffers that have names that > may become misleading after a while. For instance: > > (buffer-name) -> "*unsent wide reply to Mark Oteiza*" > > Even if I remove you from the headers, the buffer doesn't change name. > :-) So there's precedence. There's precedence in the other direction too: when you do dired-find-alternate-file the buffer name changes. > The fourth is to revert to the previous meaningless buffer names, i.e., > *eww*<254> etc. If the buffer name will be meaningless, setting `list-buffers-directory' to the url so it shows up in the buffer listing could be useful. 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[173.67.40.97]) by smtp.gmail.com with ESMTPSA id d191sm1825992qke.15.2017.01.26.10.06.11 (version=TLS1_2 cipher=ECDHE-RSA-AES128-GCM-SHA256 bits=128/128); Thu, 26 Jan 2017 10:06:11 -0800 (PST) Received: by holos.localdomain (Postfix, from userid 1000) id 259BB66372; Thu, 26 Jan 2017 13:06:11 -0500 (EST) Date: Thu, 26 Jan 2017 13:06:11 -0500 From: Mark Oteiza To: Lars Ingebrigtsen Subject: Re: bug#23738: [feature request] eww allow multiple buffer Message-ID: <20170126180611.GA7965@holos.localdomain> References: <575A79D9.9080200@easy-emacs.de> <87wpdkkudx.fsf@gnus.org> <877f5kgk20.fsf@udel.edu> <8737g6ly1c.fsf@gnus.org> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <8737g6ly1c.fsf@gnus.org> User-Agent: Mutt/1.7.2+23 (b57c695b7923) (2016-11-26) X-Spam-Score: 0.5 (/) X-Debbugs-Envelope-To: 23738 Cc: Andreas =?iso-8859-1?Q?R=F6hler?= , 23738@debbugs.gnu.org X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18 Precedence: list List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Sender: "Debbugs-submit" X-Spam-Score: 0.5 (/) On 25/01/17 at 08:50pm, Lars Ingebrigtsen wrote: > Mark Oteiza writes: > > > What happens when I navigate to another site in the same buffer? Then > > the buffer name is deceptive. Both s and S show the site and/or title, > > and the header line of the eww buffer always has both, so this change seems > > strange IMHO. > > On the other hand, we also have other buffers that have names that > may become misleading after a while. For instance: > > (buffer-name) -> "*unsent wide reply to Mark Oteiza*" > > Even if I remove you from the headers, the buffer doesn't change name. > :-) So there's precedence. > > Another option is to say that if the user has called eww in > open-in-a-new-window-mode, then all further RETs in the buffer should > also pop to new windows... Then the buffer name would always be > correct. > > The third option is to always rename the buffer in these cases. > > The fourth is to revert to the previous meaningless buffer names, i.e., > *eww*<254> etc. > > Opinions? I don't think I've ever used message-mode's buffer name to tell which email it is, looking at the subject is easier. I certainly have never used eww's buffer names to tell what website they are on, seeing how the urls or titles are presented plainly in 3 different ways. IMO The original report doesn't make sense. The buffer names have nothing to do with being able to use and manipulate multiple eww buffers. I'd just revert. Alternatively, it looks trivial to make customizeable. From debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Thu Jan 26 13:10:55 2017 Received: (at 23738) by debbugs.gnu.org; 26 Jan 2017 18:10:55 +0000 Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:45836 helo=debbugs.gnu.org) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1cWoVb-0005Mw-7k for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Thu, 26 Jan 2017 13:10:55 -0500 Received: from hermes.netfonds.no ([80.91.224.195]:55825) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1cWoVZ-0005Mo-Fj for 23738@debbugs.gnu.org; Thu, 26 Jan 2017 13:10:53 -0500 Received: from 2.150.50.220.tmi.telenormobil.no ([2.150.50.220] helo=mouse) by hermes.netfonds.no with esmtpsa (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1cWoVW-00031P-Ik; Thu, 26 Jan 2017 19:10:52 +0100 From: Lars Ingebrigtsen To: Noam Postavsky Subject: Re: bug#23738: [feature request] eww allow multiple buffer In-Reply-To: (Noam Postavsky's message of "Wed, 25 Jan 2017 15:09:24 -0500") Date: Thu, 26 Jan 2017 18:25:20 +0100 Message-ID: <87lgtxzqbj.fsf@gnus.org> References: <575A79D9.9080200@easy-emacs.de> <87wpdkkudx.fsf@gnus.org> <877f5kgk20.fsf@udel.edu> <8737g6ly1c.fsf@gnus.org> User-Agent: Gnus/5.13 (Gnus v5.13) Emacs/26.0.50 (gnu/linux) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain X-Spam-Score: 0.0 (/) X-Debbugs-Envelope-To: 23738 Cc: Mark Oteiza , 23738@debbugs.gnu.org X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18 Precedence: list List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Sender: "Debbugs-submit" X-Spam-Score: 0.0 (/) Noam Postavsky writes: > There's precedence in the other direction too: when you do > dired-find-alternate-file the buffer name changes. Hm, yeah... >> The fourth is to revert to the previous meaningless buffer names, i.e., >> *eww*<254> etc. > > If the buffer name will be meaningless, setting > `list-buffers-directory' to the url so it shows up in the buffer > listing could be useful. Oh, nice. I didn't know about that one. I don't think it quite solves the problem here, but eww should be setting that anyway. I'll make that change. -- (domestic pets only, the antidote for overdose, milk.) bloggy blog: http://lars.ingebrigtsen.no From debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Thu Jan 26 13:17:13 2017 Received: (at 23738) by debbugs.gnu.org; 26 Jan 2017 18:17:13 +0000 Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:45895 helo=debbugs.gnu.org) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1cWobg-0007I1-TT for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Thu, 26 Jan 2017 13:17:13 -0500 Received: from hermes.netfonds.no ([80.91.224.195]:55984) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1cWobf-0007FR-S8 for 23738@debbugs.gnu.org; Thu, 26 Jan 2017 13:17:12 -0500 Received: from 2.150.50.220.tmi.telenormobil.no ([2.150.50.220] helo=mouse) by hermes.netfonds.no with esmtpsa (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1cWobc-0008Ns-Mv; Thu, 26 Jan 2017 19:17:10 +0100 From: Lars Ingebrigtsen To: Mark Oteiza Subject: Re: bug#23738: [feature request] eww allow multiple buffer In-Reply-To: <20170126180611.GA7965@holos.localdomain> (Mark Oteiza's message of "Thu, 26 Jan 2017 13:06:11 -0500") Date: Thu, 26 Jan 2017 19:16:34 +0100 Message-ID: <87vat1vg8t.fsf@gnus.org> References: <575A79D9.9080200@easy-emacs.de> <87wpdkkudx.fsf@gnus.org> <877f5kgk20.fsf@udel.edu> <8737g6ly1c.fsf@gnus.org> <20170126180611.GA7965@holos.localdomain> User-Agent: Gnus/5.13 (Gnus v5.13) Emacs/26.0.50 (gnu/linux) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain X-Spam-Score: 0.0 (/) X-Debbugs-Envelope-To: 23738 Cc: Andreas =?utf-8?Q?R=C3=B6hler?= , 23738@debbugs.gnu.org X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18 Precedence: list List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Sender: "Debbugs-submit" X-Spam-Score: 0.0 (/) Mark Oteiza writes: > I don't think I've ever used message-mode's buffer name to tell which > email it is, looking at the subject is easier. I certainly have never > used eww's buffer names to tell what website they are on, seeing how the > urls or titles are presented plainly in 3 different ways. > > IMO The original report doesn't make sense. The buffer names have > nothing to do with being able to use and manipulate multiple eww > buffers. I think there's value in being able to type `C-x b fsf RET' to go the buffer that has the FSF web page, or whatever. Especially for people with disabilities. -- (domestic pets only, the antidote for overdose, milk.) bloggy blog: http://lars.ingebrigtsen.no From debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Thu Jan 26 14:17:46 2017 Received: (at 23738) by debbugs.gnu.org; 26 Jan 2017 19:17:46 +0000 Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:45993 helo=debbugs.gnu.org) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1cWpYI-0003jQ-1N for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Thu, 26 Jan 2017 14:17:46 -0500 Received: from mail-qt0-f178.google.com ([209.85.216.178]:35187) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1cWpYF-0003jC-Te for 23738@debbugs.gnu.org; Thu, 26 Jan 2017 14:17:44 -0500 Received: by mail-qt0-f178.google.com with SMTP id x49so91381349qtc.2 for <23738@debbugs.gnu.org>; Thu, 26 Jan 2017 11:17:43 -0800 (PST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=udel-edu.20150623.gappssmtp.com; s=20150623; h=date:from:to:cc:subject:message-id:references:mime-version :content-disposition:in-reply-to:user-agent; bh=wzseYVNnadSG9i8ibavgW9NdahV3gMj39v+9PdjPuGY=; b=r4SPEU2biKzhLBhGccuK0nBplPksyyfdHjusJ51fqcrGDGEnZUu4ye1kx8ITjrsyOc VdYR6YKG8afC/Im1jaaShb3pWbqgfkfwCp3+rLDwmDaVci19V8VJdng3UILOEw5TZIh4 di1dgRqyzTbKPDvT27FKCrWMt4sprXsgIp9SmmUBrW6PBSNq/f0NMHBBI8CtI7VR/ZMk U/6RHGOxMeo7KmUsRStDTarMsBqihEtq/9R9Xn8rz8mGXiQ7AhGlr0zTiyONi3XLjHBU /pS6N+xBjwErgbMGKkqJmSbsDyrw7tPuUeoQGideyQiY7qcrL/9r2JmPYb/RuDcjhHVR L5pg== X-Google-DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=1e100.net; s=20161025; h=x-gm-message-state:date:from:to:cc:subject:message-id:references :mime-version:content-disposition:in-reply-to:user-agent; bh=wzseYVNnadSG9i8ibavgW9NdahV3gMj39v+9PdjPuGY=; b=UDsZ8tvL0KfuNH2ldU5OjaQcwNA1dM1c40Vjx+HkruxbZPzPaa8OyRKGs/otO+ANKe y9uENzeJscxGadqJeWEo7uTagM9mYUs1H1G6P37w9MwCf7MwxdQSdxiWt/Dc84gHuNO/ 3sL7cGmoiMWoBE0t5hucoUVsP0CqxUExK0A9/fRWGOsaWWJV3qgDSWGw8vYz3yD1ynCJ KKXyEL1KzSMFaBWm3BMUu9SB6eEssl1J2QHQ8YRMqAuCn3qpEOZBaZAcKCS2+Kua4T1X cCFlVYcGJSV4zgkbUt+AF9EhhQMuLjX6hwc9sZnyxW8YRpOqr+/qm7FyJL7gNsX+sTr/ 9ABw== X-Gm-Message-State: AIkVDXJ7ADsjj7VZhf3iiRX0nAiEkjlH9bMbaX3K92ESfrsXo7CLbYUOca2j97hkzXgjcLhV X-Received: by 10.200.49.206 with SMTP id i14mr4310848qte.180.1485458257985; Thu, 26 Jan 2017 11:17:37 -0800 (PST) Received: from holos.localdomain (pool-173-67-40-97.bltmmd.fios.verizon.net. [173.67.40.97]) by smtp.gmail.com with ESMTPSA id b16sm1992128qka.9.2017.01.26.11.17.37 (version=TLS1_2 cipher=ECDHE-RSA-AES128-GCM-SHA256 bits=128/128); Thu, 26 Jan 2017 11:17:37 -0800 (PST) Received: by holos.localdomain (Postfix, from userid 1000) id 9D20466372; Thu, 26 Jan 2017 14:17:36 -0500 (EST) Date: Thu, 26 Jan 2017 14:17:36 -0500 From: Mark Oteiza To: Lars Ingebrigtsen Subject: Re: bug#23738: [feature request] eww allow multiple buffer Message-ID: <20170126191736.GA10021@holos.localdomain> References: <575A79D9.9080200@easy-emacs.de> <87wpdkkudx.fsf@gnus.org> <877f5kgk20.fsf@udel.edu> <8737g6ly1c.fsf@gnus.org> <20170126180611.GA7965@holos.localdomain> <87vat1vg8t.fsf@gnus.org> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <87vat1vg8t.fsf@gnus.org> User-Agent: Mutt/1.7.2+23 (b57c695b7923) (2016-11-26) X-Spam-Score: -0.2 (/) X-Debbugs-Envelope-To: 23738 Cc: Andreas =?iso-8859-1?Q?R=F6hler?= , 23738@debbugs.gnu.org X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18 Precedence: list List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Sender: "Debbugs-submit" X-Spam-Score: -0.2 (/) On 26/01/17 at 07:16pm, Lars Ingebrigtsen wrote: > Mark Oteiza writes: > > > I don't think I've ever used message-mode's buffer name to tell which > > email it is, looking at the subject is easier. I certainly have never > > used eww's buffer names to tell what website they are on, seeing how the > > urls or titles are presented plainly in 3 different ways. > > > > IMO The original report doesn't make sense. The buffer names have > > nothing to do with being able to use and manipulate multiple eww > > buffers. > > I think there's value in being able to type `C-x b fsf RET' to go the > buffer that has the FSF web page, or whatever. Especially for people > with disabilities. Unless you navigated to the FSF page from duckduckgo or any other host. From debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Thu Jan 26 14:27:21 2017 Received: (at 23738) by debbugs.gnu.org; 26 Jan 2017 19:27:21 +0000 Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:46031 helo=debbugs.gnu.org) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1cWphZ-0003zg-4J for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Thu, 26 Jan 2017 14:27:21 -0500 Received: from hermes.netfonds.no ([80.91.224.195]:56746) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1cWphX-0003zZ-Nr for 23738@debbugs.gnu.org; Thu, 26 Jan 2017 14:27:20 -0500 Received: from 2.150.50.220.tmi.telenormobil.no ([2.150.50.220] helo=mouse) by hermes.netfonds.no with esmtpsa (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1cWphQ-0001NK-PS; Thu, 26 Jan 2017 20:27:14 +0100 From: Lars Ingebrigtsen To: Mark Oteiza Subject: Re: bug#23738: [feature request] eww allow multiple buffer In-Reply-To: <20170126191736.GA10021@holos.localdomain> (Mark Oteiza's message of "Thu, 26 Jan 2017 14:17:36 -0500") Date: Thu, 26 Jan 2017 20:27:00 +0100 Message-ID: <87efzppqpn.fsf@gnus.org> References: <575A79D9.9080200@easy-emacs.de> <87wpdkkudx.fsf@gnus.org> <877f5kgk20.fsf@udel.edu> <8737g6ly1c.fsf@gnus.org> <20170126180611.GA7965@holos.localdomain> <87vat1vg8t.fsf@gnus.org> <20170126191736.GA10021@holos.localdomain> User-Agent: Gnus/5.13 (Gnus v5.13) Emacs/26.0.50 (gnu/linux) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain X-Spam-Score: 0.0 (/) X-Debbugs-Envelope-To: 23738 Cc: Andreas =?utf-8?Q?R=C3=B6hler?= , 23738@debbugs.gnu.org X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18 Precedence: list List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Sender: "Debbugs-submit" X-Spam-Score: 0.0 (/) Mark Oteiza writes: >> I think there's value in being able to type `C-x b fsf RET' to go the >> buffer that has the FSF web page, or whatever. Especially for people >> with disabilities. > > Unless you navigated to the FSF page from duckduckgo or any other host. The use case here is that you hit a link that opens a new window. Then you want to find that window after a while. There's no way for a blind person to do that without a lot of work without sensible eww buffer naming. -- (domestic pets only, the antidote for overdose, milk.) bloggy blog: http://lars.ingebrigtsen.no From debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Thu Jan 26 15:00:38 2017 Received: (at 23738) by debbugs.gnu.org; 26 Jan 2017 20:00:39 +0000 Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:46097 helo=debbugs.gnu.org) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1cWqDm-00073C-MV for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Thu, 26 Jan 2017 15:00:38 -0500 Received: from mail-qt0-f169.google.com ([209.85.216.169]:36776) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1cWqDl-0006x5-2t for 23738@debbugs.gnu.org; Thu, 26 Jan 2017 15:00:37 -0500 Received: by mail-qt0-f169.google.com with SMTP id k15so94447340qtg.3 for <23738@debbugs.gnu.org>; Thu, 26 Jan 2017 12:00:36 -0800 (PST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=udel-edu.20150623.gappssmtp.com; s=20150623; h=date:from:to:cc:subject:message-id:references:mime-version :content-disposition:in-reply-to:user-agent; bh=qjLnNLM0wPeN84AzZ0XH3e/zqS5JVCOnpEK2CZCzC5I=; b=ZAq2/ZxudH+ewPfVWQd2uLmdknw4q0On3TBrt+XGZgUlEJyqJwvNV7+tOfRH6Yndia 84+BRM3EtJkXalq4fAgWUbYU/gR7Kri+cqcudPiGVfPK+W/lasRUJvTVHci5lFnQnEyU CJXcW3sAni+At5y/UyYNF6Ztq4uLzjVGbLE3KpRp8MllHcxUKPBJYkP/yZPWUsdQdTyH AaFrZNXLIgRDEiU+miHJNt33rXCl5oSKRCeqo1YL53tSAze+3lpd51jm2t/Ov160e7L3 H+2Wly7UM2ZCMQiejjbeEzapfl4hIMKiyM9Gs/2E8UunFwKLvGZWUYQoSq0Ee5RqBHfO OhBg== X-Google-DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=1e100.net; s=20161025; h=x-gm-message-state:date:from:to:cc:subject:message-id:references :mime-version:content-disposition:in-reply-to:user-agent; bh=qjLnNLM0wPeN84AzZ0XH3e/zqS5JVCOnpEK2CZCzC5I=; b=AvZlPVJRD7uEIu0BcdRvc256/LgMiAzSH7KFmGUw94wLp1ImzDNK/33ckglHC8xbMg QnR8zYg+6FeSj1KHyfocV9x0TNqPH6aF7YDAot2dfnekPrakGaWjXpATeTxy9G5eDqoz 0T0MtTT80NcIcoWUCH/eu7ucJgyzFMygKpA1b6HOnYuElcy1W34NsBFVxoeGALDZ9blc 69HwdI2zfrUqgG524B70F2DtUwLTK1Skpa455LbPWWYQIZ2oInrx/bWf6G99J3cZlOgn Ao2p7I6V0/EvHzcLHRR35FPAEb+PwyTMljhYH96aBbWkf+hVMw43rh4rJiZNxakerMl0 cUCQ== X-Gm-Message-State: AIkVDXL5QBKS9NURr5uJYCpjw+yNHKswpIipHt0BG7TLlYG4mKFyOBMOb/YUMYtS//LmhFl5 X-Received: by 10.55.77.77 with SMTP id a74mr4927973qkb.265.1485460831184; Thu, 26 Jan 2017 12:00:31 -0800 (PST) Received: from holos.localdomain (pool-173-67-40-97.bltmmd.fios.verizon.net. [173.67.40.97]) by smtp.gmail.com with ESMTPSA id 12sm2064795qtv.31.2017.01.26.12.00.30 (version=TLS1_2 cipher=ECDHE-RSA-AES128-GCM-SHA256 bits=128/128); Thu, 26 Jan 2017 12:00:30 -0800 (PST) Received: by holos.localdomain (Postfix, from userid 1000) id DF23C66372; Thu, 26 Jan 2017 15:00:29 -0500 (EST) Date: Thu, 26 Jan 2017 15:00:29 -0500 From: Mark Oteiza To: Lars Ingebrigtsen Subject: Re: bug#23738: [feature request] eww allow multiple buffer Message-ID: <20170126200029.GA10082@holos.localdomain> References: <575A79D9.9080200@easy-emacs.de> <87wpdkkudx.fsf@gnus.org> <877f5kgk20.fsf@udel.edu> <8737g6ly1c.fsf@gnus.org> <20170126180611.GA7965@holos.localdomain> <87vat1vg8t.fsf@gnus.org> <20170126191736.GA10021@holos.localdomain> <87efzppqpn.fsf@gnus.org> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <87efzppqpn.fsf@gnus.org> User-Agent: Mutt/1.7.2+23 (b57c695b7923) (2016-11-26) X-Spam-Score: 0.5 (/) X-Debbugs-Envelope-To: 23738 Cc: Andreas =?iso-8859-1?Q?R=F6hler?= , 23738@debbugs.gnu.org X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18 Precedence: list List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Sender: "Debbugs-submit" X-Spam-Score: 0.5 (/) On 26/01/17 at 08:27pm, Lars Ingebrigtsen wrote: > Mark Oteiza writes: > > >> I think there's value in being able to type `C-x b fsf RET' to go the > >> buffer that has the FSF web page, or whatever. Especially for people > >> with disabilities. > > > > Unless you navigated to the FSF page from duckduckgo or any other host. > > The use case here is that you hit a link that opens a new window. Then > you want to find that window after a while. There's no way for a blind > person to do that without a lot of work without sensible eww buffer > naming. Then make it customizable so as to not shoehorn every user into this use case where no one ever navigates to different hosts in an eww buffer. Also, to suggest there is no other way to solve this problem is ridiculous, but you've dug in your feet and I'm not going to waste any more time arguing with you. From debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Thu Jan 26 15:16:29 2017 Received: (at 23738) by debbugs.gnu.org; 26 Jan 2017 20:16:29 +0000 Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:46137 helo=debbugs.gnu.org) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1cWqT6-0001MD-P0 for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Thu, 26 Jan 2017 15:16:28 -0500 Received: from hermes.netfonds.no ([80.91.224.195]:57246) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1cWqT4-0001KC-FU for 23738@debbugs.gnu.org; Thu, 26 Jan 2017 15:16:26 -0500 Received: from 2.150.50.220.tmi.telenormobil.no ([2.150.50.220] helo=mouse) by hermes.netfonds.no with esmtpsa (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1cWqT1-0002wF-F5; Thu, 26 Jan 2017 21:16:25 +0100 From: Lars Ingebrigtsen To: Mark Oteiza Subject: Re: bug#23738: [feature request] eww allow multiple buffer In-Reply-To: <20170126200029.GA10082@holos.localdomain> (Mark Oteiza's message of "Thu, 26 Jan 2017 15:00:29 -0500") Date: Thu, 26 Jan 2017 21:15:49 +0100 Message-ID: <87vat1k26i.fsf@gnus.org> References: <575A79D9.9080200@easy-emacs.de> <87wpdkkudx.fsf@gnus.org> <877f5kgk20.fsf@udel.edu> <8737g6ly1c.fsf@gnus.org> <20170126180611.GA7965@holos.localdomain> <87vat1vg8t.fsf@gnus.org> <20170126191736.GA10021@holos.localdomain> <87efzppqpn.fsf@gnus.org> <20170126200029.GA10082@holos.localdomain> User-Agent: Gnus/5.13 (Gnus v5.13) Emacs/26.0.50 (gnu/linux) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain X-Spam-Score: 0.0 (/) X-Debbugs-Envelope-To: 23738 Cc: Andreas =?utf-8?Q?R=C3=B6hler?= , 23738@debbugs.gnu.org X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18 Precedence: list List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Sender: "Debbugs-submit" X-Spam-Score: 0.0 (/) Mark Oteiza writes: > Then make it customizable so as to not shoehorn every user into this > use case where no one ever navigates to different hosts in an eww buffer. Well, this is only when you open a new window when using browse-url with eww (which is not the default behaviour anyway). > Also, to suggest there is no other way to solve this problem is > ridiculous, but you've dug in your feet and I'm not going to waste any > more time arguing with you. Uhm. I presented at least four different options here, one of which was reverting. 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[98.229.60.157]) by smtp.gmail.com with ESMTPSA id i5sm13109063qtb.9.2017.01.30.11.52.58 (version=TLS1_2 cipher=ECDHE-RSA-CHACHA20-POLY1305 bits=256/256); Mon, 30 Jan 2017 11:52:58 -0800 (PST) From: Ted Zlatanov To: Lars Ingebrigtsen Subject: Re: bug#23738: [feature request] eww allow multiple buffer Organization: =?utf-8?B?0KLQtdC+0LTQvtGAINCX0LvQsNGC0LDQvdC+0LI=?= @ Cienfuegos References: <575A79D9.9080200@easy-emacs.de> <87wpdkkudx.fsf@gnus.org> <877f5kgk20.fsf@udel.edu> <87k29kdqsb.fsf@gnus.org> X-Face: bd.DQ~'29fIs`T_%O%C\g%6jW)yi[zuz6; d4V0`@y-~$#3P_Ng{@m+e4o<4P'#(_GJQ%TT= D}[Ep*b!\e,fBZ'j_+#"Ps?s2!4H2-Y"sx" Mail-Copies-To: never Gmane-Reply-To-List: yes Date: Mon, 30 Jan 2017 14:52:58 -0500 In-Reply-To: <87k29kdqsb.fsf@gnus.org> (Lars Ingebrigtsen's message of "Tue, 24 Jan 2017 23:41:40 +0100") Message-ID: <87k29cpbol.fsf@lifelogs.com> User-Agent: Gnus/5.13 (Gnus v5.13) Emacs/26.0.50 (gnu/linux) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain X-Spam-Score: 0.5 (/) X-Debbugs-Envelope-To: 23738 Cc: Mark Oteiza , 23738@debbugs.gnu.org X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18 Precedence: list List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Sender: "Debbugs-submit" X-Spam-Score: 0.5 (/) On Tue, 24 Jan 2017 23:41:40 +0100 Lars Ingebrigtsen wrote: LI> Mark Oteiza writes: >> What happens when I navigate to another site in the same buffer? Then >> the buffer name is deceptive. Both s and S show the site and/or title, >> and the header line of the eww buffer always has both, so this change seems >> strange IMHO. LI> Hm, yes, that's true. And changing the name of the buffer as you follow LI> links isn't very nice, either. I think. LI> Hm... so perhaps I should revert that change unless anybody has any LI> other thoughts on this... I think there are several use cases. I've given my suggestions: 1) open a new buffer directly to a hostname or "go to" a URL: use that hostname in the buffer title 2) follow a link to the same host (or domain) in a EWW buffer: leave the buffer title 3) follow a link to a different host (or domain) in a EWW buffer: drop the buffer title and just make it a number or something unique Ted From debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Tue Jan 31 11:31:57 2017 Received: (at 23738) by debbugs.gnu.org; 31 Jan 2017 16:31:57 +0000 Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:52419 helo=debbugs.gnu.org) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1cYbLZ-0007Xv-3q for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Tue, 31 Jan 2017 11:31:57 -0500 Received: from hermes.netfonds.no ([80.91.224.195]:39106) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1cYbLX-0007Xn-Ki for 23738@debbugs.gnu.org; Tue, 31 Jan 2017 11:31:55 -0500 Received: from cm-84.215.1.64.getinternet.no ([84.215.1.64] helo=stories) by hermes.netfonds.no with esmtpsa (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_128_GCM_SHA256:128) (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1cYbLU-0000FN-U0 for 23738@debbugs.gnu.org; Tue, 31 Jan 2017 17:31:55 +0100 From: Lars Ingebrigtsen To: 23738@debbugs.gnu.org Subject: Re: bug#23738: [feature request] eww allow multiple buffer References: <575A79D9.9080200@easy-emacs.de> <87wpdkkudx.fsf@gnus.org> <877f5kgk20.fsf@udel.edu> <87k29kdqsb.fsf@gnus.org> <87k29cpbol.fsf@lifelogs.com> Face: iVBORw0KGgoAAAANSUhEUgAAADAAAAAwBAMAAAClLOS0AAAAKlBMVEWB/v4AAOAAAOMIMfsL e/wFBvo88/0HrP0AAO0IFvsBAN0LUfoAAOgAAP9eAcMbAAABpklEQVQ4jX3SMWuDQBQH8Df1Q5Qu 3ULJdukQHBWkZHaQInQIly8guSFTAgWHZgo3HCFDnIpkM5Dh6JBNAp2CoIPfpXfR04sxfYN4/rh7 /6dCJKsfJEFTc/kI5CX5TAutsnkFYZAzxuiQMsqYp8FueY45H3EzNkeDH7FFwdMyd1zHocylrtxR fD2WkHjFdWUlhEnRhpcLBMsbON2Do4RtcguLCwTt50VxgX47k8wrodcBIi9EidMBzxK6dhwj2AZd MI/gdu4yFoQdaWUs2N2M9y9kp3twhKiGVIuXzSH6VQvGGkgXDeQIsWJTd2+OWhlChg2EFaSIc4TQ poZvdZLBRcWqT1DDmVuWALUlg55qIUAQeq1OBvUO1/sSaLWuwbBsX7Svh1GQ723iu3EzIqgx1gKQ Dl51807IzDA1UKHsKZntzU0HYDzej2gDVQ82wBhPfR7TFhjGVMjkQKzhNQx8LIsQK/Z0cA53wLUJ /gDAY2KZeqqcCgCAhwnxTU+DtLAa2Ohz5Pb0Atj233RwnEM3MHbAJRA/1mHF7RqqjwvyZ09RXAJg X8EfRu0wFrq2O7cAAAAASUVORK5CYII= Date: Tue, 31 Jan 2017 17:31:52 +0100 In-Reply-To: <87k29cpbol.fsf@lifelogs.com> (Ted Zlatanov's message of "Mon, 30 Jan 2017 14:52:58 -0500") Message-ID: User-Agent: Gnus/5.13 (Gnus v5.13) Emacs/26.0.50 (gnu/linux) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain X-Spam-Score: 0.0 (/) X-Debbugs-Envelope-To: 23738 X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18 Precedence: list List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Sender: "Debbugs-submit" X-Spam-Score: 0.0 (/) Ted Zlatanov writes: > I think there are several use cases. I've given my suggestions: > > 1) open a new buffer directly to a hostname or "go to" a URL: use that > hostname in the buffer title > > 2) follow a link to the same host (or domain) in a EWW buffer: leave the > buffer title > > 3) follow a link to a different host (or domain) in a EWW buffer: drop > the buffer title and just make it a number or something unique Yeah, I think this is a probably the best way to deal with it. That is: If you've opened a "domain-named" eww buffer (which is now the case with NEW-WINDOW), then eww will have to change the name of the buffer if you follow a link to a different domain. But perhaps just keep renaming it based on the new domain instead of reverting to ? -- (domestic pets only, the antidote for overdose, milk.) bloggy blog: http://lars.ingebrigtsen.no From debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Tue Jan 31 13:44:35 2017 Received: (at 23738) by debbugs.gnu.org; 31 Jan 2017 18:44:35 +0000 Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:52546 helo=debbugs.gnu.org) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1cYdPr-0000cs-Vw for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Tue, 31 Jan 2017 13:44:35 -0500 Received: from mail-qt0-f174.google.com ([209.85.216.174]:34918) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1cYdPm-0000cb-LH for 23738@debbugs.gnu.org; Tue, 31 Jan 2017 13:44:30 -0500 Received: by mail-qt0-f174.google.com with SMTP id x49so241354083qtc.2 for <23738@debbugs.gnu.org>; Tue, 31 Jan 2017 10:44:26 -0800 (PST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=lifelogs.com; s=google; h=from:to:cc:subject:organization:references:mail-copies-to :gmane-reply-to-list:date:in-reply-to:message-id:user-agent :mime-version; bh=rcTkrLPITAHXEUsYcb0Uc5KSHjhctmYM7dzNZ8oTEJQ=; b=PI0bVWj5k+Vb3U6cbbBktMnWnynw80sLzW+RGvaUuYr2K6PJttPNnUHLTtwWGsu/KI l28PLaX1TpylbQv+m2G0YPgmFaC+SGiM2LGWcMReihXzWME5qDSnvsi8G74+fCDUVbJ2 1sDsvLdPTj0nb0k9e3lR4KwMthy2JamBfPpMY= X-Google-DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=1e100.net; s=20161025; h=x-gm-message-state:from:to:cc:subject:organization:references :mail-copies-to:gmane-reply-to-list:date:in-reply-to:message-id :user-agent:mime-version; bh=rcTkrLPITAHXEUsYcb0Uc5KSHjhctmYM7dzNZ8oTEJQ=; b=d/sT6Geuc0pSq7Hsd8BLaGXAapgPqosbtmR3u1LibjGaSUKdJfpVT2yNoZOcy3xoYN 8OatV3y822zcHjDgNj8g3vgzDnG17Ls+t5brafkPa3TLUHRvR6Pzz5AP2i8nplpnxK3N Ee8yPKJN6ZRpcO941if2J1wpxFE+9Eve7GO2m4q8ZbBPFlVl5H9EOGPm+cpdNT6puAlk K0Uzxj52tTIP/cvH1t6UnrgOcW+3gRZgr4jHbUPdzUWnYUQYaR63zwIUuV40epwgrwXM ub5hkghreHXbgSPdG3Arc1DeFHWUT92L3DbGhfxDViKC5OaXR7Nc7W0QJ0ZpcJsF1VZC o7Ag== X-Gm-Message-State: AIkVDXIsWI8WHQl3E6aNDDSNdqUTUr7AVT71frnD8kjhzDSB5Gz1nWMjiOXWm5wIB5xh6A== X-Received: by 10.200.40.45 with SMTP id 42mr25893943qtq.89.1485888260870; Tue, 31 Jan 2017 10:44:20 -0800 (PST) Received: from flea (c-98-229-60-157.hsd1.ma.comcast.net. [98.229.60.157]) by smtp.gmail.com with ESMTPSA id e3sm16001385qtg.7.2017.01.31.10.44.19 (version=TLS1_2 cipher=ECDHE-RSA-CHACHA20-POLY1305 bits=256/256); Tue, 31 Jan 2017 10:44:20 -0800 (PST) From: Ted Zlatanov To: Lars Ingebrigtsen Subject: Re: bug#23738: [feature request] eww allow multiple buffer Organization: =?utf-8?B?0KLQtdC+0LTQvtGAINCX0LvQsNGC0LDQvdC+0LI=?= @ Cienfuegos References: <575A79D9.9080200@easy-emacs.de> <87wpdkkudx.fsf@gnus.org> <877f5kgk20.fsf@udel.edu> <87k29kdqsb.fsf@gnus.org> <87k29cpbol.fsf@lifelogs.com> X-Face: bd.DQ~'29fIs`T_%O%C\g%6jW)yi[zuz6; d4V0`@y-~$#3P_Ng{@m+e4o<4P'#(_GJQ%TT= D}[Ep*b!\e,fBZ'j_+#"Ps?s2!4H2-Y"sx" Mail-Copies-To: never Gmane-Reply-To-List: yes Date: Tue, 31 Jan 2017 13:44:19 -0500 In-Reply-To: (Lars Ingebrigtsen's message of "Tue, 31 Jan 2017 17:31:52 +0100") Message-ID: <87k29bt6gs.fsf@flea> User-Agent: Gnus/5.13 (Gnus v5.13) Emacs/26.0.50 (gnu/linux) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain X-Spam-Score: -0.2 (/) X-Debbugs-Envelope-To: 23738 Cc: 23738@debbugs.gnu.org X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18 Precedence: list List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Sender: "Debbugs-submit" X-Spam-Score: -0.2 (/) On Tue, 31 Jan 2017 17:31:52 +0100 Lars Ingebrigtsen wrote: LI> Ted Zlatanov writes: >> I think there are several use cases. I've given my suggestions: >> >> 1) open a new buffer directly to a hostname or "go to" a URL: use that >> hostname in the buffer title >> >> 2) follow a link to the same host (or domain) in a EWW buffer: leave the >> buffer title >> >> 3) follow a link to a different host (or domain) in a EWW buffer: drop >> the buffer title and just make it a number or something unique LI> Yeah, I think this is a probably the best way to deal with it. That is: LI> If you've opened a "domain-named" eww buffer (which is now the case with LI> NEW-WINDOW), then eww will have to change the name of the buffer if you LI> follow a link to a different domain. But perhaps just keep renaming it LI> based on the new domain instead of reverting to ? Your call, as long as the logic is consistent and clear in the code, separately treating those three cases. Then it can be amended or even extracted into customizable hooks etc. Ted From debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Thu Apr 12 19:44:35 2018 Received: (at control) by debbugs.gnu.org; 12 Apr 2018 23:44:35 +0000 Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:48838 helo=debbugs.gnu.org) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1f6ltK-0002Od-Qf for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Thu, 12 Apr 2018 19:44:34 -0400 Received: from hermes.netfonds.no ([80.91.224.195]:45988) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1f6ltJ-0002OW-Nc for control@debbugs.gnu.org; Thu, 12 Apr 2018 19:44:33 -0400 Received: from 46.67.12.60.tmi.telenormobil.no ([46.67.12.60] helo=corrigan) by hermes.netfonds.no with esmtpsa (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1f6ltH-0006aX-FO for control@debbugs.gnu.org; Fri, 13 Apr 2018 01:44:33 +0200 Received: from larsi by corrigan with local (Exim 4.89) (envelope-from ) id 1f6ltB-0007EC-GB for control@debbugs.gnu.org; Fri, 13 Apr 2018 01:44:25 +0200 To: control@debbugs.gnu.org From: Lars Ingebrigtsen Subject: control message for bug #23738 Message-Id: Date: Fri, 13 Apr 2018 01:44:25 +0200 X-Spam-Score: 0.0 (/) X-Debbugs-Envelope-To: control X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18 Precedence: list List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Sender: "Debbugs-submit" X-Spam-Score: -1.0 (-) close 23738 From unknown Sat Jun 14 03:55:26 2025 Received: (at fakecontrol) by fakecontrolmessage; To: internal_control@debbugs.gnu.org From: Debbugs Internal Request Subject: Internal Control Message-Id: bug archived. 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