From unknown Thu Jun 19 12:32:23 2025 Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: MIME-tools 5.509 (Entity 5.509) Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 From: bug#23727 <23727@debbugs.gnu.org> To: bug#23727 <23727@debbugs.gnu.org> Subject: Status: Gnus doesn't always indicate successful posting Reply-To: bug#23727 <23727@debbugs.gnu.org> Date: Thu, 19 Jun 2025 19:32:23 +0000 retitle 23727 Gnus doesn't always indicate successful posting reassign 23727 emacs,gnus submitter 23727 Live System User severity 23727 minor thanks From debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Wed Jun 08 07:08:13 2016 Received: (at submit) by debbugs.gnu.org; 8 Jun 2016 11:08:13 +0000 Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:59845 helo=debbugs.gnu.org) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1bAbLJ-0002X7-1j for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Wed, 08 Jun 2016 07:08:13 -0400 Received: from omr-a011e.mx.aol.com ([204.29.186.59]:51014) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1bAbLG-0002Wt-Or for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Wed, 08 Jun 2016 07:08:11 -0400 Received: from mtaout-aad02.mx.aol.com (mtaout-aad02.mx.aol.com [172.26.127.226]) by omr-a011e.mx.aol.com (Outbound Mail Relay) with ESMTP id 86D7A380009A for ; Wed, 8 Jun 2016 07:08:05 -0400 (EDT) Received: from localhost.localdomain (c-50-163-96-131.hsd1.ma.comcast.net [50.163.96.131]) (using TLSv1 with cipher AES128-SHA (128/128 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by mtaout-aad02.mx.aol.com (MUA/Third Party Client Interface) with ESMTPSA id 3B4F738000087 for ; Wed, 8 Jun 2016 07:08:05 -0400 (EDT) From: Live System User To: submit@debbugs.gnu.org (The Gnus Bugfixing Girls + Boys) Subject: Gnus doesn't always indicate successful posting X-Debbugs-Version: 5.13 X-Debbugs-Package: gnus Date: Wed, 08 Jun 2016 07:07:42 -0400 Message-ID: <8760tk9bwh.fsf@aol.com> User-Agent: Gnus/5.13 (Gnus v5.13) Emacs/25.0.94 (gnu/linux) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain x-aol-global-disposition: G DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=mx.aol.com; s=20150623; t=1465384085; bh=wE5/HTC1h4bAmEdjuCRU4qZgRWGKtj0U2Kwokpj6uzM=; h=From:To:Subject:Message-ID:Date:MIME-Version:Content-Type; b=eOZQWVGe0ozVj17CV132SPqpIeysdbIhmJv5RNMghdnw/rhjRYojUqtXKHlsr8Hfg LyX8OTBKjx09WzQhT73PtGseav5UIio8Bp+oEUdzo6/duNbnjjaQc0fZMCLb04Yz68 pvVHxqBiJWuF4iIWNrXhgyvvkm+6RRMaKbI+JPiU= x-aol-sid: 3039ac1a7fe25757fc952ddc X-AOL-IP: 50.163.96.131 X-Spam-Score: -2.1 (--) X-Debbugs-Envelope-To: submit X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18 Precedence: list List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Sender: "Debbugs-submit" X-Spam-Score: -2.1 (--) Hi, I tried to follow up to a posting to gmane.emacs.devel by typing F `(gnus-summary-followup-with-original)'. After typing "C-u C-c C-c" `(message-send-and-exit)', I got the message: Wrote /home/liveuser/Mail/send-news/3 but Emacs was unresponsive and the "unsent..." buffer remained. After about 5 minutes, I typed C-g `(keyboard-quit)' and typed "C-u C-c C-c" again while in the "*unsent..." buffer and got no message but the "*unsent..." buffer remained. I then typed just "C-c C-c" and then got the message: Denied posting -- multiple copies So, presumably, the posting went through to Gmane the first time or else my Emacs/Gnus session was in a state that it believed the posting went through even though it didn't. (I'll have to check gmane.emacs.devel later to see if it did go through). In any event, I had no other indication of my posting's desposition. If it did go through, why didn't Gnus change the "*unsent..." buffer to "*sent..."? [UPDATE: The posing did NOT go through but I see the message in my "nndraft:queue" folder. I tried again by compsing a new message and this time it went through] Thanks. Gnus v5.13 GNU Emacs 25.0.94.1 (x86_64-redhat-linux-gnu, GTK+ Version 3.18.9) of 2016-05-18 200 news.gmane.org InterNetNews NNRP server INN 2.5.1 ready (posting ok) 100 Legal commands ARTICLE [message-ID|number] AUTHINFO USER name|PASS password|GENERIC program [argument ...] BODY [message-ID|number] CAPABILITIES [keyword] DATE GROUP newsgroup HDR header [message-ID|range] HEAD [message-ID|number] HELP IHAVE message-ID LAST LIST [ACTIVE [wildmat]|ACTIVE.TIMES [wildmat]|DISTRIB.PATS|DISTRIBUTIONS|HEADERS [MSGID|RANGE]|MODERATORS|MOTD|NEWSGROUPS [wildmat]|OVERVIEW.FMT|SUBSCRIPTIONS] LISTGROUP [newsgroup [range]] MODE READER NEWGROUPS [yy]yymmdd hhmmss [GMT] NEWNEWS wildmat [yy]yymmdd hhmmss [GMT] NEXT OVER [range] POST QUIT STARTTLS STAT [message-ID|number] XGTITLE [wildmat] XHDR header [message-ID|range] XOVER [range] XPAT header message-ID|range pattern [pattern ...] Report problems to . . 382 Begin TLS negotiation now 100 Legal commands ARTICLE [message-ID|number] AUTHINFO USER name|PASS password|GENERIC program [argument ...] BODY [message-ID|number] CAPABILITIES [keyword] DATE GROUP newsgroup HDR header [message-ID|range] HEAD [message-ID|number] HELP IHAVE message-ID LAST LIST [ACTIVE [wildmat]|ACTIVE.TIMES [wildmat]|DISTRIB.PATS|DISTRIBUTIONS|HEADERS [MSGID|RANGE]|MODERATORS|MOTD|NEWSGROUPS [wildmat]|OVERVIEW.FMT|SUBSCRIPTIONS] LISTGROUP [newsgroup [range]] MODE READER NEWGROUPS [yy]yymmdd hhmmss [GMT] NEWNEWS wildmat [yy]yymmdd hhmmss [GMT] NEXT OVER [range] POST QUIT STARTTLS STAT [message-ID|number] XGTITLE [wildmat] XHDR header [message-ID|range] XOVER [range] XPAT header message-ID|range pattern [pattern ...] Report problems to . . From debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Thu Jan 26 18:18:01 2017 Received: (at 23727) by debbugs.gnu.org; 26 Jan 2017 23:18:01 +0000 Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:46582 helo=debbugs.gnu.org) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1cWtIn-0004xA-0a for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Thu, 26 Jan 2017 18:18:01 -0500 Received: from hermes.netfonds.no ([80.91.224.195]:60264) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1cWtIl-0004x3-Sb for 23727@debbugs.gnu.org; Thu, 26 Jan 2017 18:18:00 -0500 Received: from 2.150.50.220.tmi.telenormobil.no ([2.150.50.220] helo=mouse) by hermes.netfonds.no with esmtpsa (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1cWtIi-0003o7-UZ; Fri, 27 Jan 2017 00:17:58 +0100 From: Lars Ingebrigtsen To: Live System User Subject: Re: bug#23727: Gnus doesn't always indicate successful posting In-Reply-To: <8760tk9bwh.fsf@aol.com> (Live System User's message of "Wed, 08 Jun 2016 07:07:42 -0400") Date: Fri, 27 Jan 2017 00:16:43 +0100 Message-ID: <87tw8l1kf8.fsf@gnus.org> References: <8760tk9bwh.fsf@aol.com> User-Agent: Gnus/5.13 (Gnus v5.13) Emacs/26.0.50 (gnu/linux) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain X-Spam-Score: 0.0 (/) X-Debbugs-Envelope-To: 23727 Cc: 23727@debbugs.gnu.org X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18 Precedence: list List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Sender: "Debbugs-submit" X-Spam-Score: 0.0 (/) Live System User writes: > I tried to follow up to a posting to gmane.emacs.devel by > typing F `(gnus-summary-followup-with-original)'. > > After typing "C-u C-c C-c" `(message-send-and-exit)', I got > the message: > > Wrote /home/liveuser/Mail/send-news/3 > > but Emacs was unresponsive and the "unsent..." buffer remained. I would guess that this means that the network connection timed out while posting. > After about 5 minutes, I typed C-g `(keyboard-quit)' and typed > "C-u C-c C-c" again while in the "*unsent..." buffer and got > no message but the "*unsent..." buffer remained. Does `C-u' do something with `C-c C-c'? I can't really see that it does? > I then typed just "C-c C-c" and then got the message: > > Denied posting -- multiple copies This is really odd. Because it was presumably hanging in `gnus-request-post', and your C-g should have ensured that result was nil, so it shouldn't have registered that it had sent the message, and you shouldn't have gotten the "multiple copies" message. (setq result (let ((mail-header-separator "")) (gnus-request-post method)))) (kill-buffer tembuf)) (set-buffer messbuf) (if result (push 'news message-sent-message-via) So very odd... But what happened at the second C-c C-c? Did it hang again and you C-g'd it again? -- (domestic pets only, the antidote for overdose, milk.) bloggy blog: http://lars.ingebrigtsen.no From debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Thu Jan 26 18:17:53 2017 Received: (at control) by debbugs.gnu.org; 26 Jan 2017 23:17:53 +0000 Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:46579 helo=debbugs.gnu.org) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1cWtIe-0004wq-Rr for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Thu, 26 Jan 2017 18:17:52 -0500 Received: from hermes.netfonds.no ([80.91.224.195]:60258) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1cWtId-0004wi-Du for control@debbugs.gnu.org; Thu, 26 Jan 2017 18:17:51 -0500 Received: from 2.150.50.220.tmi.telenormobil.no ([2.150.50.220] helo=mouse) by hermes.netfonds.no with esmtpsa (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1cWtIb-0003BK-4G for control@debbugs.gnu.org; Fri, 27 Jan 2017 00:17:50 +0100 From: Lars Ingebrigtsen To: control@debbugs.gnu.org Subject: control message for bug #23727 Message-ID: <87y3xx1kqu.fsf@totally-fudged-out-message-id> Date: Fri, 27 Jan 2017 00:17:43 +0100 User-Agent: Gnus/5.13 (Gnus v5.13) Emacs/26.0.50 (gnu/linux) X-Spam-Score: 0.0 (/) X-Debbugs-Envelope-To: control X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18 Precedence: list List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Sender: "Debbugs-submit" X-Spam-Score: 0.0 (/) reassign 23727 emacs,gnus From debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Sat Feb 11 05:44:08 2017 Received: (at 23727) by debbugs.gnu.org; 11 Feb 2017 10:44:09 +0000 Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:35342 helo=debbugs.gnu.org) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1ccV9x-0002zY-24 for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Sat, 11 Feb 2017 05:44:08 -0500 Received: from omr-a001e.mx.aol.com ([204.29.186.53]:54311) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1ccV9s-0002yv-6U for 23727@debbugs.gnu.org; Sat, 11 Feb 2017 05:44:04 -0500 Received: from mtaout-mca02.mx.aol.com (mtaout-mca02.mx.aol.com [172.26.221.78]) by omr-a001e.mx.aol.com (Outbound Mail Relay) with ESMTP id 5B1B43800084; Sat, 11 Feb 2017 05:43:54 -0500 (EST) Received: from localhost.localdomain (c-50-163-97-64.hsd1.ma.comcast.net [50.163.97.64]) (using TLSv1 with cipher AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by mtaout-mca02.mx.aol.com (MUA/Third Party Client Interface) with ESMTPSA id 0FD7A38000084; Sat, 11 Feb 2017 05:43:54 -0500 (EST) From: Live System User To: Lars Ingebrigtsen Subject: Re: bug#23727: Gnus doesn't always indicate successful posting In-Reply-To: <87tw8l1kf8.fsf@gnus.org> (Lars Ingebrigtsen's message of "Fri, 27 Jan 2017 00:16:43 +0100") References: <8760tk9bwh.fsf@aol.com> <87tw8l1kf8.fsf@gnus.org> User-Agent: Gnus/5.13 (Gnus v5.13) Emacs/25.1 (gnu/linux) Date: Sat, 11 Feb 2017 05:43:49 -0500 Message-ID: <87vash2eje.fsf@aol.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain x-aol-global-disposition: G DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=mx.aol.com; s=20150623; t=1486809834; bh=JZUeCr3cJS6muNmwH27KQ3HY58R5m5ytwjAtL5fwJHo=; h=From:To:Subject:Message-ID:Date:MIME-Version:Content-Type; b=0dEJXJLIjYBMCnuEGG8glhLF2B1vn9dYHtikySkINTwsmx4EF4FGM5ikLppVAp+Wp MwGWLil3Dps1lwBTfiy+cq2B7D5ZVzO0c9F938BJ94qfaoEwiaYLROggG3tKZkk5ET snTK5Athqks/mbCsetalZlJXiZNLuMY+B6PKRapk= x-aol-sid: 3039ac1add4e589eeaea3f55 X-AOL-IP: 50.163.97.64 X-Spam-Score: 0.0 (/) X-Debbugs-Envelope-To: 23727 Cc: 23727@debbugs.gnu.org X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18 Precedence: list List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Sender: "Debbugs-submit" X-Spam-Score: 0.0 (/) Lars Ingebrigtsen writes: > Live System User writes: > >> I tried to follow up to a posting to gmane.emacs.devel by >> typing F `(gnus-summary-followup-with-original)'. >> >> After typing "C-u C-c C-c" `(message-send-and-exit)', I got >> the message: >> >> Wrote /home/liveuser/Mail/send-news/3 >> >> but Emacs was unresponsive and the "unsent..." buffer remained. > > I would guess that this means that the network connection timed out > while posting. OK. > >> After about 5 minutes, I typed C-g `(keyboard-quit)' and typed >> "C-u C-c C-c" again while in the "*unsent..." buffer and got >> no message but the "*unsent..." buffer remained. > > Does `C-u' do something with `C-c C-c'? I can't really see that it > does? It's suppose to save the SMTP transaction buffer even if there is no SMTP error. > >> I then typed just "C-c C-c" and then got the message: >> >> Denied posting -- multiple copies > > This is really odd. Because it was presumably hanging in > `gnus-request-post', and your C-g should have ensured that result was > nil, so it shouldn't have registered that it had sent the message, and > you shouldn't have gotten the "multiple copies" message. > > (setq result (let ((mail-header-separator "")) > (gnus-request-post method)))) > (kill-buffer tembuf)) > (set-buffer messbuf) > (if result > (push 'news message-sent-message-via) > > So very odd... > > But what happened at the second C-c C-c? Did it hang again and you > C-g'd it again? It didn't hang but I got I got: >> Denied posting -- multiple copies Not sure if it's relevant, but I Gcc my messages via: Gcc: nnimap+aolSent" Thanks. From debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Thu Apr 12 12:00:01 2018 Received: (at 23727) by debbugs.gnu.org; 12 Apr 2018 16:00:01 +0000 Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:48102 helo=debbugs.gnu.org) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1f6edk-0000BD-U9 for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Thu, 12 Apr 2018 12:00:01 -0400 Received: from hermes.netfonds.no ([80.91.224.195]:56002) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1f6edj-0000B4-27 for 23727@debbugs.gnu.org; Thu, 12 Apr 2018 11:59:59 -0400 Received: from 46.67.12.60.tmi.telenormobil.no ([46.67.12.60] helo=corrigan) by hermes.netfonds.no with esmtpsa (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1f6edg-0001KL-5U; Thu, 12 Apr 2018 17:59:58 +0200 Received: from larsi by corrigan with local (Exim 4.89) (envelope-from ) id 1f6eda-0004ry-HR; Thu, 12 Apr 2018 17:59:50 +0200 From: Lars Ingebrigtsen To: Live System User Subject: Re: bug#23727: Gnus doesn't always indicate successful posting References: <8760tk9bwh.fsf@aol.com> <87tw8l1kf8.fsf@gnus.org> <87vash2eje.fsf@aol.com> Date: Thu, 12 Apr 2018 17:59:49 +0200 In-Reply-To: <87vash2eje.fsf@aol.com> (Live System User's message of "Sat, 11 Feb 2017 05:43:49 -0500") Message-ID: <87muy8s9e2.fsf@mouse.gnus.org> User-Agent: Gnus/5.13 (Gnus v5.13) Emacs/27.0.50 (gnu/linux) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain X-Spam-Score: 0.0 (/) X-Debbugs-Envelope-To: 23727 Cc: 23727@debbugs.gnu.org X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18 Precedence: list List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Sender: "Debbugs-submit" X-Spam-Score: -1.0 (-) I don't think it's likely we'll get further with this report, so I'm closing it. -- (domestic pets only, the antidote for overdose, milk.) bloggy blog: http://lars.ingebrigtsen.no From debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Thu Apr 12 12:00:05 2018 Received: (at control) by debbugs.gnu.org; 12 Apr 2018 16:00:05 +0000 Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:48107 helo=debbugs.gnu.org) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1f6edp-0000EV-6B for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Thu, 12 Apr 2018 12:00:05 -0400 Received: from hermes.netfonds.no ([80.91.224.195]:56009) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1f6edn-0000CC-5J for control@debbugs.gnu.org; Thu, 12 Apr 2018 12:00:03 -0400 Received: from 46.67.12.60.tmi.telenormobil.no ([46.67.12.60] helo=corrigan) by hermes.netfonds.no with esmtpsa (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1f6edk-0001eM-Na for control@debbugs.gnu.org; Thu, 12 Apr 2018 18:00:02 +0200 Received: from larsi by corrigan with local (Exim 4.89) (envelope-from ) id 1f6ede-0004s1-UK for control@debbugs.gnu.org; Thu, 12 Apr 2018 17:59:54 +0200 To: control@debbugs.gnu.org From: Lars Ingebrigtsen Subject: control message for bug #23727 Message-Id: Date: Thu, 12 Apr 2018 17:59:54 +0200 X-Spam-Score: 0.0 (/) X-Debbugs-Envelope-To: control X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18 Precedence: list List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Sender: "Debbugs-submit" X-Spam-Score: -1.0 (-) close 23727 From unknown Thu Jun 19 12:32:23 2025 Received: (at fakecontrol) by fakecontrolmessage; To: internal_control@debbugs.gnu.org From: Debbugs Internal Request Subject: Internal Control Message-Id: bug archived. 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