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Gnus doesn't always indicate successful posting

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From: Live System User <nyc4bos <at> aol.com>
To: submit <at> debbugs.gnu.org (The Gnus Bugfixing Girls + Boys)
Subject: Gnus doesn't always indicate successful posting
Date: Wed, 08 Jun 2016 07:07:42 -0400

Hi,

        I tried to follow up to a posting to gmane.emacs.devel by
        typing F `(gnus-summary-followup-with-original)'.

        After typing "C-u C-c C-c" `(message-send-and-exit)', I got
        the message:

            Wrote /home/liveuser/Mail/send-news/3

       but Emacs was unresponsive and the "unsent..." buffer remained.

       After about 5 minutes, I typed C-g `(keyboard-quit)' and typed
       "C-u C-c C-c" again while in the "*unsent..." buffer and got
       no message but the "*unsent..." buffer remained.

       I then typed just "C-c C-c" and then got the message:

             Denied posting -- multiple copies

       So, presumably, the posting went through to Gmane the first
       time or else my Emacs/Gnus session was in a state that it
       believed the posting went through even though it didn't.
       (I'll have to check gmane.emacs.devel later to see if it did
       go through).  In any event, I had no other indication of my
       posting's desposition.

       If it did go through, why didn't Gnus change the "*unsent..."
       buffer to "*sent..."?

       [UPDATE: The posing did NOT go through but I see the message
                in my "nndraft:queue" folder.  I tried again by
                compsing a new message and this time it went through]

       Thanks.



Gnus v5.13
GNU Emacs 25.0.94.1 (x86_64-redhat-linux-gnu, GTK+ Version 3.18.9)
 of 2016-05-18
200 news.gmane.org InterNetNews NNRP server INN 2.5.1 ready (posting ok)
100 Legal commands
  ARTICLE [message-ID|number]
  AUTHINFO USER name|PASS password|GENERIC program [argument ...]
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  CAPABILITIES [keyword]
  DATE
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  HDR header [message-ID|range]
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  LIST [ACTIVE [wildmat]|ACTIVE.TIMES [wildmat]|DISTRIB.PATS|DISTRIBUTIONS|HEADERS [MSGID|RANGE]|MODERATORS|MOTD|NEWSGROUPS [wildmat]|OVERVIEW.FMT|SUBSCRIPTIONS]
  LISTGROUP [newsgroup [range]]
  MODE READER
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  NEWNEWS wildmat [yy]yymmdd hhmmss [GMT]
  NEXT
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  STARTTLS
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  XPAT header message-ID|range pattern [pattern ...]
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  HEAD [message-ID|number]
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Message #8 received at 23727 <at> debbugs.gnu.org (full text, mbox):

From: Lars Ingebrigtsen <larsi <at> gnus.org>
To: Live System User <nyc4bos <at> aol.com>
Cc: 23727 <at> debbugs.gnu.org
Subject: Re: bug#23727: Gnus doesn't always indicate successful posting
Date: Fri, 27 Jan 2017 00:16:43 +0100

Live System User <nyc4bos <at> aol.com> writes:

> I tried to follow up to a posting to gmane.emacs.devel by
> typing F `(gnus-summary-followup-with-original)'.
>
> After typing "C-u C-c C-c" `(message-send-and-exit)', I got
> the message:
>
> Wrote /home/liveuser/Mail/send-news/3
>
> but Emacs was unresponsive and the "unsent..." buffer remained.

I would guess that this means that the network connection timed out
while posting.

> After about 5 minutes, I typed C-g `(keyboard-quit)' and typed
> "C-u C-c C-c" again while in the "*unsent..." buffer and got
> no message but the "*unsent..." buffer remained.

Does `C-u' do something with `C-c C-c'?  I can't really see that it
does?

> I then typed just "C-c C-c" and then got the message:
>
> Denied posting -- multiple copies

This is really odd.  Because it was presumably hanging in
`gnus-request-post', and your C-g should have ensured that result was
nil, so it shouldn't have registered that it had sent the message, and
you shouldn't have gotten the "multiple copies" message. 

	      (setq result (let ((mail-header-separator ""))
			     (gnus-request-post method))))
	  (kill-buffer tembuf))
	(set-buffer messbuf)
	(if result
	    (push 'news message-sent-message-via)

So very odd...

But what happened at the second C-c C-c?  Did it hang again and you
C-g'd it again?

-- 
(domestic pets only, the antidote for overdose, milk.)
   bloggy blog: http://lars.ingebrigtsen.no

Message #15 received at 23727 <at> debbugs.gnu.org (full text, mbox):

From: Live System User <nyc4bos <at> aol.com>
To: Lars Ingebrigtsen <larsi <at> gnus.org>
Cc: 23727 <at> debbugs.gnu.org
Subject: Re: bug#23727: Gnus doesn't always indicate successful posting
Date: Sat, 11 Feb 2017 05:43:49 -0500

Lars Ingebrigtsen <larsi <at> gnus.org> writes:

> Live System User <nyc4bos <at> aol.com> writes:
>
>> I tried to follow up to a posting to gmane.emacs.devel by
>> typing F `(gnus-summary-followup-with-original)'.
>>
>> After typing "C-u C-c C-c" `(message-send-and-exit)', I got
>> the message:
>>
>> Wrote /home/liveuser/Mail/send-news/3
>>
>> but Emacs was unresponsive and the "unsent..." buffer remained.
>
> I would guess that this means that the network connection timed out
> while posting.

  OK.

>
>> After about 5 minutes, I typed C-g `(keyboard-quit)' and typed
>> "C-u C-c C-c" again while in the "*unsent..." buffer and got
>> no message but the "*unsent..." buffer remained.
>
> Does `C-u' do something with `C-c C-c'?  I can't really see that it
> does?

  It's suppose to save the SMTP transaction buffer even if there is
  no SMTP error.
>
>> I then typed just "C-c C-c" and then got the message:
>>
>> Denied posting -- multiple copies
>
> This is really odd.  Because it was presumably hanging in
> `gnus-request-post', and your C-g should have ensured that result was
> nil, so it shouldn't have registered that it had sent the message, and
> you shouldn't have gotten the "multiple copies" message. 
>
> 	      (setq result (let ((mail-header-separator ""))
> 			     (gnus-request-post method))))
> 	  (kill-buffer tembuf))
> 	(set-buffer messbuf)
> 	(if result
> 	    (push 'news message-sent-message-via)
>
> So very odd...
>
> But what happened at the second C-c C-c?  Did it hang again and you
> C-g'd it again?

  It didn't hang but I got I got:

    >> Denied posting -- multiple copies

 
 Not sure if it's relevant, but I Gcc my messages via:

     Gcc: nnimap+aolSent"


 Thanks.
 

Message #18 received at 23727 <at> debbugs.gnu.org (full text, mbox):

From: Lars Ingebrigtsen <larsi <at> gnus.org>
To: Live System User <nyc4bos <at> aol.com>
Cc: 23727 <at> debbugs.gnu.org
Subject: Re: bug#23727: Gnus doesn't always indicate successful posting
Date: Thu, 12 Apr 2018 17:59:49 +0200

I don't think it's likely we'll get further with this report, so I'm
closing it.

-- 
(domestic pets only, the antidote for overdose, milk.)
   bloggy blog: http://lars.ingebrigtsen.no

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