From unknown Fri Aug 15 12:51:04 2025 Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: MIME-tools 5.509 (Entity 5.509) Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 From: bug#23550 <23550@debbugs.gnu.org> To: bug#23550 <23550@debbugs.gnu.org> Subject: Status: 25.0.93; cl.texi (for var on list by func): Fix documentation Reply-To: bug#23550 <23550@debbugs.gnu.org> Date: Fri, 15 Aug 2025 19:51:04 +0000 retitle 23550 25.0.93; cl.texi (for var on list by func): Fix documentation reassign 23550 emacs submitter 23550 Tino Calancha severity 23550 minor tag 23550 patch thanks From debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Mon May 16 11:46:02 2016 Received: (at submit) by debbugs.gnu.org; 16 May 2016 15:46:02 +0000 Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:53929 helo=debbugs.gnu.org) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1b2KiX-0000Ti-SY for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Mon, 16 May 2016 11:46:02 -0400 Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([208.118.235.92]:40798) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1b2KiW-0000Ox-VA for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Mon, 16 May 2016 11:46:01 -0400 Received: from Debian-exim by eggs.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1b2KiQ-0000Lw-OE for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Mon, 16 May 2016 11:45:55 -0400 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.3.2 (2011-06-06) on eggs.gnu.org X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=0.0 required=5.0 tests=BAYES_40,FREEMAIL_FROM autolearn=disabled version=3.3.2 Received: from lists.gnu.org ([2001:4830:134:3::11]:52090) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1b2KiQ-0000Ll-Am for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Mon, 16 May 2016 11:45:54 -0400 Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([2001:4830:134:3::10]:60000) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1b2KiO-0000sI-1J for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Mon, 16 May 2016 11:45:53 -0400 Received: from Debian-exim by eggs.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1b2KiI-0000KP-Ow for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Mon, 16 May 2016 11:45:50 -0400 Received: from calancha-ilc.kek.jp ([130.87.234.234]:60097) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1b2KiI-0000KG-EQ for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Mon, 16 May 2016 11:45:46 -0400 Received: by calancha-ilc.kek.jp (Postfix, from userid 500) id 2B0FC640F; Tue, 17 May 2016 00:49:02 +0900 (JST) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by calancha-ilc.kek.jp (Postfix) with ESMTP id 14EAC5646 for ; Tue, 17 May 2016 00:49:02 +0900 (JST) Date: Tue, 17 May 2016 00:49:02 +0900 (JST) From: Tino Calancha X-X-Sender: calancha@calancha-ilc.kek.jp To: bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org Subject: 25.0.93; cl.texi (for var on list by func): Fix documentation Message-ID: User-Agent: Alpine 2.20 (LRH 67 2015-01-07) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed; charset=US-ASCII X-detected-operating-system: by eggs.gnu.org: GNU/Linux 3.x X-detected-operating-system: by eggs.gnu.org: GNU/Linux 2.6.x X-Received-From: 2001:4830:134:3::11 X-Spam-Score: -4.0 (----) X-Debbugs-Envelope-To: submit X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18 Precedence: list List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Sender: "Debbugs-submit" X-Spam-Score: -4.0 (----) * doc/misc/cl.texi (for var on list by func): Fix documentation 'cl-loop for var on list by func' behaves as in CL: 'on' expression need to be a list. The following tests run in the *scratch* buffer return same values as in SBCL: ;; CL cl-loop -> loop emacs -Q: (require 'cl-lib) (setq preys '("grass" "lion" "rabbit")) (defun next-prey (x) "Return the name of the prey of animal X." (cl-loop while (not (atom x)) do (setq x (car x))) (cond ((member x preys) ; elisp ;; (cond ((member x preys :test #'string=) ; CL (cond ((string= x "lion") "rabbit") ((string= x "rabbit") "grass") (t nil))) (t nil))) (defun next-prey-list (x) "Return a list with the name of the prey of animal X." (let ((res (next-prey x))) (if res (list res) nil))) [A] (mapcar 'next-prey '("grass" "lion" "rabbit")) [B] (mapcar 'next-prey-list '("grass" "lion" "rabbit")) [A] (nil "rabbit" "grass") [B] (nil ("rabbit") ("grass")) [I] (cl-loop for y on preys collect y) [II] (cl-loop for y on preys by #'next-prey collect y) [III] (cl-loop for y on (car preys) by #'next-prey collect y) [IV] (cl-loop for y on (car preys) by #'next-prey-list collect y) [V] (cl-loop for y on preys by #'next-prey-list collect y) [I] (("grass" "lion" "rabbit") ("lion" "rabbit") ("rabbit")) [II] (("grass" "lion" "rabbit")) [III] nil [IV] nil [V] (("grass" "lion" "rabbit")) In GNU Emacs 25.0.93.3 (x86_64-pc-linux-gnu, GTK+ Version 2.24.30) Repository revision: 6de0715f5467d4b925e2dfe082174529ace3b174 >From 3e1756fb4d76e34b74b96782d4509582e9ce0cd3 Mon Sep 17 00:00:00 2001 From: Tino Calancha Date: Tue, 17 May 2016 00:04:56 +0900 Subject: [PATCH] ; * cl.texi (clause 'for' with 'on'): Fix documentation --- doc/misc/cl.texi | 12 ------------ 1 file changed, 12 deletions(-) diff --git a/doc/misc/cl.texi b/doc/misc/cl.texi index 4137a95..319592c 100644 --- a/doc/misc/cl.texi +++ b/doc/misc/cl.texi @@ -1956,18 +1956,6 @@ For Clauses @result{} ((1 2 3 4) (2 3 4) (3 4) (4)) @end example -With @code{by}, there is no real reason that the @code{on} expression -must be a list. 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Well, it only needs to be a cons, because that's what the loop checks for. > > emacs -Q: > > (require 'cl-lib) > (setq preys '("grass" "lion" "rabbit")) > > (defun next-prey (x) > "Return the name of the prey of animal X." > (cl-loop while (not (atom x)) > do (setq x (car x))) > (cond ((member x preys) ; elisp > ;; (cond ((member x preys :test #'string=) ; CL > (cond ((string= x "lion") "rabbit") > ((string= x "rabbit") "grass") > (t nil))) > (t > nil))) > (defun next-prey-list (x) > "Return a list with the name of the prey of animal X." > (let ((res (next-prey x))) > (if res > (list res) > nil))) I guess the idea behind that statement is that the rest of the list can be implied by the stepping function, e.g. (cl-loop for y on (list "lion") by #'next-prey-list collect (car y)) ;=> ("lion" "rabbit" "grass") Works with the "in" clause too: (cl-loop for y in (list "lion") by #'next-prey-list collect y) ;=> ("lion" "rabbit" "grass") I guess it could be useful in combination with streams? Not sure if it's worth having this in the manual. 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[220.100.204.234]) by smtp.gmail.com with ESMTPSA id u69sm13746036pfg.121.2017.03.29.06.26.40 (version=TLS1_2 cipher=ECDHE-RSA-CHACHA20-POLY1305 bits=256/256); Wed, 29 Mar 2017 06:26:42 -0700 (PDT) From: Tino Calancha To: npostavs@users.sourceforge.net Subject: Re: bug#23550: 25.0.93; cl.texi (for var on list by func): Fix documentation References: <874lyg68rq.fsf@users.sourceforge.net> Date: Wed, 29 Mar 2017 22:26:27 +0900 In-Reply-To: <874lyg68rq.fsf@users.sourceforge.net> (npostavs's message of "Sat, 25 Mar 2017 23:01:45 -0400") Message-ID: <87lgroxlh8.fsf@calancha-pc> User-Agent: Gnus/5.13 (Gnus v5.13) Emacs/26.0.50 (gnu/linux) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain X-Spam-Score: -2.8 (--) X-Debbugs-Envelope-To: 23550 Cc: Tino Calancha , 23550@debbugs.gnu.org X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18 Precedence: list List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Sender: "Debbugs-submit" X-Spam-Score: -2.8 (--) npostavs@users.sourceforge.net writes: >> >> emacs -Q: >> >> (require 'cl-lib) >> (setq preys '("grass" "lion" "rabbit")) >> >> (defun next-prey (x) >> "Return the name of the prey of animal X." >> (cl-loop while (not (atom x)) >> do (setq x (car x))) >> (cond ((member x preys) ; elisp >> ;; (cond ((member x preys :test #'string=) ; CL >> (cond ((string= x "lion") "rabbit") >> ((string= x "rabbit") "grass") >> (t nil))) >> (t >> nil))) >> (defun next-prey-list (x) >> "Return a list with the name of the prey of animal X." >> (let ((res (next-prey x))) >> (if res >> (list res) >> nil))) > > I guess the idea behind that statement is that the rest of the list can > be implied by the stepping function, e.g. > > (cl-loop for y on (list "lion") by #'next-prey-list collect (car y)) > ;=> ("lion" "rabbit" "grass") > > Works with the "in" clause too: > > (cl-loop for y in (list "lion") by #'next-prey-list collect y) > ;=> ("lion" "rabbit" "grass") > > I guess it could be useful in combination with streams? Not sure if > it's worth having this in the manual. In the way is written makes me expect that: (cl-loop for y on "lion" by #'next-prey-list collect (car y)) will be evaluated to: ("lion" "rabbit" "grass"). Becase i read in the example first-animal, instead of (list first-animal), and they also write: 'With @code{by}, there is no real reason that the @code{on} expression must be a list.' It might be useful rewrite that part to make it more clear, but i don't have a clear proposal. From debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Wed Mar 29 10:07:00 2017 Received: (at 23550) by debbugs.gnu.org; 29 Mar 2017 14:07:00 +0000 Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:51409 helo=debbugs.gnu.org) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1ctEFY-0001l5-Jq for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Wed, 29 Mar 2017 10:07:00 -0400 Received: from mail-it0-f46.google.com ([209.85.214.46]:38348) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1ctEFX-0001kq-9x for 23550@debbugs.gnu.org; Wed, 29 Mar 2017 10:06:59 -0400 Received: by mail-it0-f46.google.com with SMTP id y18so58169993itc.1 for <23550@debbugs.gnu.org>; Wed, 29 Mar 2017 07:06:59 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20161025; h=sender:from:to:cc:subject:references:date:in-reply-to:message-id :user-agent:mime-version; bh=AAWELmRkkfJ6LmVcVPNs9jCJmYeyHaZq4wveDxyWZmE=; b=ZQmUoXq1wu0+Wi0EhzkpxAiyzhVyS1RX02FJ5SDIINC5myE+CRNzr10nqPHS7osqk5 8MdEQde1dncUl1P29MocSZRYRWwTUb9CJrg+xNSRcmV84U8JddyozeFzQwJvdR6uwRp9 NYNQvyq0h5GWs8B86AsVlNnxdKAMaq6S6Q2gsLHu+iQtKGOC1gHqEaS3P+TYbpIQQbee 8Sr2gB53l1DTJySOn3lIpbSW7EMdjTDi/JOPiX/HRWwlvhjDYMAGCqN7rKIxTBORkXCV u4KnXmRJwwpzyF/x+17udh9HRz2TZB1Vnsk/p/x4OdGSwdOjbyXPjBIviayOdc70+dC6 yleg== X-Google-DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=1e100.net; s=20161025; h=x-gm-message-state:sender:from:to:cc:subject:references:date :in-reply-to:message-id:user-agent:mime-version; bh=AAWELmRkkfJ6LmVcVPNs9jCJmYeyHaZq4wveDxyWZmE=; b=B0HXClzlz05txqhWAEoyyF0E5UPveyigLUqNo41p9CZyGg39L6fBDY85DToDsi/iRE 9H3sgxGyku6olwDBkbQeAn10tgncqFhNpJnY0lRaQULA9JziRsInjP+AvKSwchqOwqnX c0ZN2SG2Qe9Sb+lfN06O1dsmGQhNeyumnvEEHJF659GfPkLCH8FodNbWsSj2kWHSlpUn GxA+V91/Umg/2ROoRVcxWuTl6tKCyqaCkJZ4rcxv7Of78H4KSRERP5AaTCtkpvQX4oZZ zCwd6WJTiIhiVb1X1QiCpenGEc4Wrxa4WSlGo23FwDgj61DP27Lm1LYExkRO2ERB6sPf 7CzQ== X-Gm-Message-State: AFeK/H2DHBoZumS/G7b8o4Vv/PJmDP+9MMOxTYlgw2EtWi4kJGYQSHB7ZxtleDTPt/5JWw== X-Received: by 10.107.142.136 with SMTP id q130mr960627iod.31.1490796413294; Wed, 29 Mar 2017 07:06:53 -0700 (PDT) Received: from zony ([45.2.7.65]) by smtp.googlemail.com with ESMTPSA id f196sm4505026itc.2.2017.03.29.07.06.51 (version=TLS1_2 cipher=ECDHE-RSA-CHACHA20-POLY1305 bits=256/256); Wed, 29 Mar 2017 07:06:52 -0700 (PDT) From: npostavs@users.sourceforge.net To: Tino Calancha Subject: Re: bug#23550: 25.0.93; cl.texi (for var on list by func): Fix documentation References: <874lyg68rq.fsf@users.sourceforge.net> <87lgroxlh8.fsf@calancha-pc> Date: Wed, 29 Mar 2017 10:08:14 -0400 In-Reply-To: <87lgroxlh8.fsf@calancha-pc> (Tino Calancha's message of "Wed, 29 Mar 2017 22:26:27 +0900") Message-ID: <87efxg2n1t.fsf@users.sourceforge.net> User-Agent: Gnus/5.13 (Gnus v5.13) Emacs/25.2 (gnu/linux) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain X-Spam-Score: 0.7 (/) X-Debbugs-Envelope-To: 23550 Cc: Tino Calancha , 23550@debbugs.gnu.org X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18 Precedence: list List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Sender: "Debbugs-submit" X-Spam-Score: 0.7 (/) Tino Calancha writes: > It might be useful rewrite that part to make it more clear, but i don't > have a clear proposal. Actually, looking at this some more, I think you should just apply your patch that removes this stuff completely. It's much clearer to write that sort of example as (cl-loop for y = "lion" then (next-prey y) while y collect y) And looking down the page, `for VAR = EXPR1 then EXPR2' is already explained well enough (as well as the equivalence to the `for VAR on LIST by FUNCTION' form). 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[220.100.204.234]) by smtp.gmail.com with ESMTPSA id n7sm8774537pfn.0.2017.03.31.01.20.34 for <23550-done@debbugs.gnu.org> (version=TLS1_2 cipher=ECDHE-RSA-CHACHA20-POLY1305 bits=256/256); Fri, 31 Mar 2017 01:20:34 -0700 (PDT) From: Tino Calancha To: 23550-done@debbugs.gnu.org Subject: Re: bug#23550: 25.0.93; cl.texi (for var on list by func): Fix documentation References: <874lyg68rq.fsf@users.sourceforge.net> <87lgroxlh8.fsf@calancha-pc> <87efxg2n1t.fsf@users.sourceforge.net> Date: Fri, 31 Mar 2017 17:20:31 +0900 In-Reply-To: <87efxg2n1t.fsf@users.sourceforge.net> (npostavs's message of "Wed, 29 Mar 2017 10:08:14 -0400") Message-ID: <87bmshhn74.fsf@calancha-pc> User-Agent: Gnus/5.13 (Gnus v5.13) Emacs/26.0.50 (gnu/linux) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain X-Spam-Score: -0.0 (/) X-Debbugs-Envelope-To: 23550-done X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18 Precedence: list List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Sender: "Debbugs-submit" X-Spam-Score: -0.0 (/) npostavs@users.sourceforge.net writes: > Tino Calancha writes: > >> It might be useful rewrite that part to make it more clear, but i don't >> have a clear proposal. > > Actually, looking at this some more, I think you should just apply your > patch that removes this stuff completely. It's much clearer to write > that sort of example as > > (cl-loop for y = "lion" then (next-prey y) > while y collect y) > > And looking down the page, `for VAR = EXPR1 then EXPR2' is already > explained well enough (as well as the equivalence to the `for VAR on > LIST by FUNCTION' form). Thank you. Pushed fix into emacs-25 branch with commit: 3f0d047d2eb1fb59be2ff962c01392d8c808a654 From unknown Fri Aug 15 12:51:04 2025 Received: (at fakecontrol) by fakecontrolmessage; To: internal_control@debbugs.gnu.org From: Debbugs Internal Request Subject: Internal Control Message-Id: bug archived. Date: Fri, 28 Apr 2017 11:24:05 +0000 User-Agent: Fakemail v42.6.9 # This is a fake control message. # # The action: # bug archived. thanks # This fakemail brought to you by your local debbugs # administrator