From unknown Thu Aug 14 21:52:48 2025 Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: MIME-tools 5.509 (Entity 5.509) Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 From: bug#23502 <23502@debbugs.gnu.org> To: bug#23502 <23502@debbugs.gnu.org> Subject: Status: 24.5; Document auto-save-* user options in Emacs manual Reply-To: bug#23502 <23502@debbugs.gnu.org> Date: Fri, 15 Aug 2025 04:52:48 +0000 retitle 23502 24.5; Document auto-save-* user options in Emacs manual reassign 23502 emacs submitter 23502 Drew Adams severity 23502 wishlist thanks From debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Tue May 10 01:13:50 2016 Received: (at submit) by debbugs.gnu.org; 10 May 2016 05:13:50 +0000 Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:45013 helo=debbugs.gnu.org) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1azzzR-0004TD-Ny for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Tue, 10 May 2016 01:13:49 -0400 Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([208.118.235.92]:44423) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1azzzO-0004Sz-Q2 for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Tue, 10 May 2016 01:13:47 -0400 Received: from Debian-exim by eggs.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1azzzI-0001gy-FX for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Tue, 10 May 2016 01:13:41 -0400 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.3.2 (2011-06-06) on eggs.gnu.org X-Spam-Level: ** X-Spam-Status: No, score=2.8 required=5.0 tests=BAYES_50,XPRIO autolearn=disabled version=3.3.2 Received: from lists.gnu.org ([2001:4830:134:3::11]:47150) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1azzzI-0001gl-CO for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Tue, 10 May 2016 01:13:40 -0400 Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([2001:4830:134:3::10]:35381) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1azzzG-0000xT-80 for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Tue, 10 May 2016 01:13:39 -0400 Received: from Debian-exim by eggs.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1azzzB-0001g9-S4 for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Tue, 10 May 2016 01:13:37 -0400 Received: from userp1040.oracle.com ([156.151.31.81]:38433) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1azzzB-0001g2-G5 for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Tue, 10 May 2016 01:13:33 -0400 Received: from aserv0021.oracle.com (aserv0021.oracle.com [141.146.126.233]) by userp1040.oracle.com (Sentrion-MTA-4.3.2/Sentrion-MTA-4.3.2) with ESMTP id u4A5DVtG032466 (version=TLSv1 cipher=DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA bits=256 verify=OK) for ; Tue, 10 May 2016 05:13:32 GMT Received: from userv0122.oracle.com (userv0122.oracle.com [156.151.31.75]) by aserv0021.oracle.com (8.13.8/8.13.8) with ESMTP id u4A5DVN9008166 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA bits=256 verify=OK) for ; Tue, 10 May 2016 05:13:31 GMT Received: from abhmp0018.oracle.com (abhmp0018.oracle.com [141.146.116.24]) by userv0122.oracle.com (8.14.4/8.14.4) with ESMTP id u4A5DUlW021305 for ; Tue, 10 May 2016 05:13:31 GMT MIME-Version: 1.0 Message-ID: Date: Mon, 9 May 2016 22:13:29 -0700 (PDT) From: Drew Adams To: bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org Subject: 24.5; Document auto-save-* user options in Emacs manual X-Priority: 3 X-Mailer: Oracle Beehive Extensions for Outlook 2.0.1.9 (901082) [OL 12.0.6744.5000 (x86)] Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-Source-IP: aserv0021.oracle.com [141.146.126.233] X-detected-operating-system: by eggs.gnu.org: GNU/Linux 2.4.x-2.6.x [generic] X-detected-operating-system: by eggs.gnu.org: GNU/Linux 2.6.x X-Received-From: 2001:4830:134:3::11 X-Spam-Score: -2.1 (--) X-Debbugs-Envelope-To: submit X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18 Precedence: list List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Sender: "Debbugs-submit" X-Spam-Score: -4.0 (----) Why are these options described in detail only in the Elisp manual? At the very least, there should be a cross-reference from the Emacs manual, node `Auto Save Control' to (elisp) `Auto-Saving'. In GNU Emacs 24.5.1 (i686-pc-mingw32) of 2015-04-11 on LEG570 Windowing system distributor `Microsoft Corp.', version 6.1.7601 Configured using: `configure --prefix=3D/c/usr --host=3Di686-pc-mingw32' From debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Wed May 11 07:37:18 2016 Received: (at 23502) by debbugs.gnu.org; 11 May 2016 11:37:18 +0000 Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:46773 helo=debbugs.gnu.org) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1b0SS6-0005Ub-5E for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Wed, 11 May 2016 07:37:18 -0400 Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([208.118.235.92]:42863) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1b0SS3-0005UN-Sy for 23502@debbugs.gnu.org; Wed, 11 May 2016 07:37:16 -0400 Received: from Debian-exim by eggs.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1b0SRt-0000O2-53 for 23502@debbugs.gnu.org; Wed, 11 May 2016 07:37:10 -0400 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.3.2 (2011-06-06) on eggs.gnu.org X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-1.9 required=5.0 tests=BAYES_05,RP_MATCHES_RCVD autolearn=disabled version=3.3.2 Received: from fencepost.gnu.org ([2001:4830:134:3::e]:51343) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1b0SRt-0000Nf-2m; Wed, 11 May 2016 07:37:05 -0400 Received: from 84.94.185.246.cable.012.net.il ([84.94.185.246]:1044 helo=home-c4e4a596f7) by fencepost.gnu.org with esmtpsa (TLS1.2:RSA_AES_128_CBC_SHA1:128) (Exim 4.82) (envelope-from ) id 1b0SRr-0007hu-2e; Wed, 11 May 2016 07:37:03 -0400 Date: Wed, 11 May 2016 14:37:10 +0300 Message-Id: <83inykbzbt.fsf@gnu.org> From: Eli Zaretskii To: Drew Adams In-reply-to: (message from Drew Adams on Mon, 9 May 2016 22:13:29 -0700 (PDT)) Subject: Re: bug#23502: 24.5; Document auto-save-* user options in Emacs manual References: X-detected-operating-system: by eggs.gnu.org: GNU/Linux 2.2.x-3.x [generic] X-Received-From: 2001:4830:134:3::e X-Spam-Score: -6.4 (------) X-Debbugs-Envelope-To: 23502 Cc: 23502@debbugs.gnu.org X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18 Precedence: list List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Reply-To: Eli Zaretskii Errors-To: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Sender: "Debbugs-submit" X-Spam-Score: -6.4 (------) > Date: Mon, 9 May 2016 22:13:29 -0700 (PDT) > From: Drew Adams > > Why are these options described in detail only in the Elisp manual? Which ones aren't in the user manual? I found all of the user options mentioned in the "Auto-Saving" node of the ELisp manual documented in the user manual as well, in the 3 subsections of the "Auto Save" section. If I missed some, can you point them out? From debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Wed May 11 10:35:53 2016 Received: (at 23502) by debbugs.gnu.org; 11 May 2016 14:35:53 +0000 Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:47525 helo=debbugs.gnu.org) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1b0VEv-0001gk-CQ for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Wed, 11 May 2016 10:35:53 -0400 Received: from userp1040.oracle.com ([156.151.31.81]:45274) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1b0VEt-0001gX-9v for 23502@debbugs.gnu.org; Wed, 11 May 2016 10:35:52 -0400 Received: from userv0021.oracle.com (userv0021.oracle.com [156.151.31.71]) by userp1040.oracle.com (Sentrion-MTA-4.3.2/Sentrion-MTA-4.3.2) with ESMTP id u4BEZidL029468 (version=TLSv1 cipher=DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA bits=256 verify=OK); Wed, 11 May 2016 14:35:44 GMT Received: from userv0121.oracle.com (userv0121.oracle.com [156.151.31.72]) by userv0021.oracle.com (8.13.8/8.13.8) with ESMTP id u4BEZiM1020908 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA bits=256 verify=OK); Wed, 11 May 2016 14:35:44 GMT Received: from abhmp0010.oracle.com (abhmp0010.oracle.com [141.146.116.16]) by userv0121.oracle.com (8.13.8/8.13.8) with ESMTP id u4BEZhSw016566; Wed, 11 May 2016 14:35:44 GMT MIME-Version: 1.0 Message-ID: Date: Wed, 11 May 2016 07:35:41 -0700 (PDT) From: Drew Adams To: Eli Zaretskii Subject: RE: bug#23502: 24.5; Document auto-save-* user options in Emacs manual References: <> <<83inykbzbt.fsf@gnu.org>> In-Reply-To: <<83inykbzbt.fsf@gnu.org>> X-Priority: 3 X-Mailer: Oracle Beehive Extensions for Outlook 2.0.1.9 (901082) [OL 12.0.6744.5000 (x86)] Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-Source-IP: userv0021.oracle.com [156.151.31.71] X-Spam-Score: -3.7 (---) X-Debbugs-Envelope-To: 23502 Cc: 23502@debbugs.gnu.org X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18 Precedence: list List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Sender: "Debbugs-submit" X-Spam-Score: -3.7 (---) > > Why are these options described in detail only in the Elisp manual? > > At the very least, there should be a cross-reference from the Emacs > > manual, node `Auto Save Control' to (elisp) `Auto-Saving'. >=20 > Which ones aren't in the user manual? Did I say any of them are not "in" the user manual? They are not described in more detail there. Or at least please consider adding cross-references to the information in the Elisp manual. These are _user_ options. > I found all of the user options > mentioned in the "Auto-Saving" node of the ELisp manual documented in > the user manual as well, in the 3 subsections of the "Auto Save" > section. If I missed some, can you point them out? What you apparently missed is that the bug report does not say that any are missing. What it requests is to provide more info or point users to the existing info about them in the Elisp manual. From debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Wed May 11 10:46:30 2016 Received: (at 23502) by debbugs.gnu.org; 11 May 2016 14:46:30 +0000 Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:47530 helo=debbugs.gnu.org) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1b0VPC-0001zA-D6 for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Wed, 11 May 2016 10:46:30 -0400 Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([208.118.235.92]:58104) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1b0VPA-0001yx-C3 for 23502@debbugs.gnu.org; Wed, 11 May 2016 10:46:28 -0400 Received: from Debian-exim by eggs.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1b0VP1-0005Gu-UU for 23502@debbugs.gnu.org; Wed, 11 May 2016 10:46:23 -0400 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.3.2 (2011-06-06) on eggs.gnu.org X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-0.6 required=5.0 tests=BAYES_50,RP_MATCHES_RCVD autolearn=disabled version=3.3.2 Received: from fencepost.gnu.org ([2001:4830:134:3::e]:54443) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1b0VP1-0005Gq-S7; Wed, 11 May 2016 10:46:19 -0400 Received: from 84.94.185.246.cable.012.net.il ([84.94.185.246]:1733 helo=home-c4e4a596f7) by fencepost.gnu.org with esmtpsa (TLS1.2:RSA_AES_128_CBC_SHA1:128) (Exim 4.82) (envelope-from ) id 1b0VP0-0006GK-O2; Wed, 11 May 2016 10:46:19 -0400 Date: Wed, 11 May 2016 17:46:26 +0300 Message-Id: <83d1osbqkd.fsf@gnu.org> From: Eli Zaretskii To: Drew Adams In-reply-to: (message from Drew Adams on Wed, 11 May 2016 07:35:41 -0700 (PDT)) Subject: Re: bug#23502: 24.5; Document auto-save-* user options in Emacs manual References: <> <<83inykbzbt.fsf@gnu.org>> X-detected-operating-system: by eggs.gnu.org: GNU/Linux 2.2.x-3.x [generic] X-Received-From: 2001:4830:134:3::e X-Spam-Score: -6.4 (------) X-Debbugs-Envelope-To: 23502 Cc: 23502@debbugs.gnu.org X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18 Precedence: list List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Reply-To: Eli Zaretskii Errors-To: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Sender: "Debbugs-submit" X-Spam-Score: -6.4 (------) > Date: Wed, 11 May 2016 07:35:41 -0700 (PDT) > From: Drew Adams > Cc: 23502@debbugs.gnu.org > > > > Why are these options described in detail only in the Elisp manual? > > > At the very least, there should be a cross-reference from the Emacs > > > manual, node `Auto Save Control' to (elisp) `Auto-Saving'. > > > > Which ones aren't in the user manual? > > Did I say any of them are not "in" the user manual? > > They are not described in more detail there. I've read the text, and didn't find the descriptions inadequate, so I still have no idea what's wrong with their description in the Emacs manual. From debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Wed May 11 11:36:30 2016 Received: (at 23502) by debbugs.gnu.org; 11 May 2016 15:36:30 +0000 Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:47568 helo=debbugs.gnu.org) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1b0WBa-00038w-2y for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Wed, 11 May 2016 11:36:30 -0400 Received: from userp1040.oracle.com ([156.151.31.81]:22968) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1b0WBY-00038j-Fp for 23502@debbugs.gnu.org; Wed, 11 May 2016 11:36:29 -0400 Received: from aserv0022.oracle.com (aserv0022.oracle.com [141.146.126.234]) by userp1040.oracle.com (Sentrion-MTA-4.3.2/Sentrion-MTA-4.3.2) with ESMTP id u4BFaLW1029116 (version=TLSv1 cipher=DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA bits=256 verify=OK); Wed, 11 May 2016 15:36:21 GMT Received: from userv0122.oracle.com (userv0122.oracle.com [156.151.31.75]) by aserv0022.oracle.com (8.13.8/8.13.8) with ESMTP id u4BFaKmm030282 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA bits=256 verify=OK); Wed, 11 May 2016 15:36:20 GMT Received: from abhmp0010.oracle.com (abhmp0010.oracle.com [141.146.116.16]) by userv0122.oracle.com (8.14.4/8.14.4) with ESMTP id u4BFaJWH019545; Wed, 11 May 2016 15:36:20 GMT MIME-Version: 1.0 Message-ID: <84211a32-7ede-4ed2-ab8a-8b99ba0f4d60@default> Date: Wed, 11 May 2016 08:36:19 -0700 (PDT) From: Drew Adams To: Eli Zaretskii Subject: RE: bug#23502: 24.5; Document auto-save-* user options in Emacs manual References: <<>> <<<83inykbzbt.fsf@gnu.org>>> <> <<83d1osbqkd.fsf@gnu.org>> In-Reply-To: <<83d1osbqkd.fsf@gnu.org>> X-Priority: 3 X-Mailer: Oracle Beehive Extensions for Outlook 2.0.1.9 (901082) [OL 12.0.6744.5000 (x86)] Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-Source-IP: aserv0022.oracle.com [141.146.126.234] X-Spam-Score: -3.7 (---) X-Debbugs-Envelope-To: 23502 Cc: 23502@debbugs.gnu.org X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18 Precedence: list List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Sender: "Debbugs-submit" X-Spam-Score: -3.7 (---) > > > > Why are these options described in detail only in the Elisp manual? > > > > At the very least, there should be a cross-reference from the Emacs > > > > manual, node `Auto Save Control' to (elisp) `Auto-Saving'. > > > > > > Which ones aren't in the user manual? > > > > Did I say any of them are not "in" the user manual? > > > > They are not described in more detail there. Or at least please > > consider adding cross-references to the information in the Elisp > > manual. These are _user_ options. >=20 > I've read the text, and didn't find the descriptions inadequate, so I > still have no idea what's wrong with their description in the Emacs > manual. Sorry, not interested in playing another tug-of-war game. Please consider adding a link to the doc in the Elisp manual. If you're not interested, just move along, please (close bug). (You might also consider letting `C-h S' recognize these user options. That too could help users get to info about them.) From debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Wed May 11 11:54:40 2016 Received: (at 23502-done) by debbugs.gnu.org; 11 May 2016 15:54:41 +0000 Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:47573 helo=debbugs.gnu.org) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1b0WTA-0003bm-N3 for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Wed, 11 May 2016 11:54:40 -0400 Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([208.118.235.92]:35829) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1b0WT8-0003bG-VT for 23502-done@debbugs.gnu.org; Wed, 11 May 2016 11:54:39 -0400 Received: from Debian-exim by eggs.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1b0WSy-0004Ik-AD for 23502-done@debbugs.gnu.org; Wed, 11 May 2016 11:54:33 -0400 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.3.2 (2011-06-06) on eggs.gnu.org X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-1.4 required=5.0 tests=BAYES_20,RP_MATCHES_RCVD autolearn=disabled version=3.3.2 Received: from fencepost.gnu.org ([2001:4830:134:3::e]:55538) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1b0WSy-0004Ia-8E; Wed, 11 May 2016 11:54:28 -0400 Received: from 84.94.185.246.cable.012.net.il ([84.94.185.246]:1796 helo=home-c4e4a596f7) by fencepost.gnu.org with esmtpsa (TLS1.2:RSA_AES_128_CBC_SHA1:128) (Exim 4.82) (envelope-from ) id 1b0WSw-0007SE-Vw; Wed, 11 May 2016 11:54:27 -0400 Date: Wed, 11 May 2016 18:54:34 +0300 Message-Id: <83bn4cbnet.fsf@gnu.org> From: Eli Zaretskii To: Drew Adams In-reply-to: <84211a32-7ede-4ed2-ab8a-8b99ba0f4d60@default> (message from Drew Adams on Wed, 11 May 2016 08:36:19 -0700 (PDT)) Subject: Re: bug#23502: 24.5; Document auto-save-* user options in Emacs manual References: <<>> <<<83inykbzbt.fsf@gnu.org>>> <> <<83d1osbqkd.fsf@gnu.org>> <84211a32-7ede-4ed2-ab8a-8b99ba0f4d60@default> X-detected-operating-system: by eggs.gnu.org: GNU/Linux 2.2.x-3.x [generic] X-Received-From: 2001:4830:134:3::e X-Spam-Score: -6.4 (------) X-Debbugs-Envelope-To: 23502-done Cc: 23502-done@debbugs.gnu.org X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18 Precedence: list List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Reply-To: Eli Zaretskii Errors-To: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Sender: "Debbugs-submit" X-Spam-Score: -6.4 (------) > Date: Wed, 11 May 2016 08:36:19 -0700 (PDT) > From: Drew Adams > Cc: 23502@debbugs.gnu.org > > > I've read the text, and didn't find the descriptions inadequate, so I > > still have no idea what's wrong with their description in the Emacs > > manual. > > Sorry, not interested in playing another tug-of-war game. > > Please consider adding a link to the doc in the Elisp manual. > If you're not interested, just move along, please (close bug). 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