From unknown Tue Jun 24 05:13:22 2025 X-Loop: help-debbugs@gnu.org Subject: bug#23446: 25.0.93; cursor-sensor-inhibit Resent-From: phillip.lord@russet.org.uk (Phillip Lord) Original-Sender: "Debbugs-submit" Resent-CC: bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org Resent-Date: Wed, 04 May 2016 13:01:02 +0000 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-Sender: help-debbugs@gnu.org X-GNU-PR-Message: report 23446 X-GNU-PR-Package: emacs X-GNU-PR-Keywords: To: 23446@debbugs.gnu.org X-Debbugs-Original-To: bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org Received: via spool by submit@debbugs.gnu.org id=B.14623668412216 (code B ref -1); Wed, 04 May 2016 13:01:02 +0000 Received: (at submit) by debbugs.gnu.org; 4 May 2016 13:00:41 +0000 Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:36512 helo=debbugs.gnu.org) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1axwPw-0000Zf-NL for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Wed, 04 May 2016 09:00:41 -0400 Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([208.118.235.92]:44900) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1axwPt-0000ZR-T5 for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Wed, 04 May 2016 09:00:39 -0400 Received: from Debian-exim by eggs.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1axwPb-00038Q-8D for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Wed, 04 May 2016 09:00:29 -0400 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.3.2 (2011-06-06) on eggs.gnu.org X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=0.8 required=5.0 tests=BAYES_50,T_DKIM_INVALID autolearn=disabled version=3.3.2 Received: from lists.gnu.org ([2001:4830:134:3::11]:37360) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1axwPZ-00037L-Ty for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Wed, 04 May 2016 09:00:19 -0400 Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([2001:4830:134:3::10]:35767) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1axwPL-0003Tz-E4 for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Wed, 04 May 2016 09:00:12 -0400 Received: from Debian-exim by eggs.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1axwP4-0002vS-PR for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Wed, 04 May 2016 08:59:55 -0400 Received: from cloud103.planethippo.com ([31.216.48.48]:55227) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1axwP3-0002hb-22 for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Wed, 04 May 2016 08:59:46 -0400 DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; q=dns/txt; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=russet.org.uk; s=default; h=Content-Type:MIME-Version:Message-ID:Date: Subject:To:From; bh=bvXP5ds55N3Tz+11LVv+Er0TRewUhggidP8g0rS0KFA=; b=ZAHNQ9LqT VHFufwx3Yvkz/6Vq4HDk4DuwFrPU9YAMR5vIWIdyWFZNoB8wKicwdcgVjCztd+O7kpiHQueX3fA0w lVPBF3YFVci+469DjAXujqb9qrG3i68Bm6mcmE5BuWd1tpKmlCdNlL7SivVHR8M8K6uhadTk2H3Wo ZhBn/gIljBHmkC3Zu1RVGp9QCOoWppChe5I8NLr7X7nPe4ruJfKOq0YzjIm2nhty7mUKgbe2imcGY NnLBxezRcuS1JuyPviJFmWFpavaJp/RllqmEXEER1SL18KQdjbPnDtDJ6X1+9xyNRcNgGAuuWntDR EFvz0IPyafuz9PoOZ4GThWk+w==; Received: from janus-nat-128-240-225-60.ncl.ac.uk ([128.240.225.60]:33908 helo=russet.org.uk) by cloud103.planethippo.com with esmtpsa (TLSv1.2:DHE-RSA-AES128-SHA:128) (Exim 4.86_1) (envelope-from ) id 1axwOB-003mCU-Pv for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Wed, 04 May 2016 13:58:51 +0100 From: phillip.lord@russet.org.uk (Phillip Lord) Date: Wed, 04 May 2016 13:58:34 +0100 Message-ID: <87h9eekmit.fsf@russet.org.uk> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain User-Agent: Gnus/5.13 (Gnus v5.13) Emacs/25.0.93 (gnu/linux) X-AntiAbuse: This header was added to track abuse, please include it with any abuse report X-AntiAbuse: Primary Hostname - cloud103.planethippo.com X-AntiAbuse: Original Domain - gnu.org X-AntiAbuse: Originator/Caller UID/GID - [47 12] / [47 12] X-AntiAbuse: Sender Address Domain - russet.org.uk X-Get-Message-Sender-Via: cloud103.planethippo.com: authenticated_id: phillip.lord@russet.org.uk X-Authenticated-Sender: cloud103.planethippo.com: phillip.lord@russet.org.uk X-detected-operating-system: by eggs.gnu.org: GNU/Linux 3.x X-detected-operating-system: by eggs.gnu.org: GNU/Linux 2.6.x X-Received-From: 2001:4830:134:3::11 X-Spam-Score: -5.0 (-----) X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18 Precedence: list List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Sender: "Debbugs-submit" X-Spam-Score: -5.0 (-----) I am getting the following error from a freshly bootstrapped emacs launching with emacs -q Debugger entered--Lisp error: (void-variable cursor-sensor-inhibit) isearch-update() isearch-mode(t nil nil nil) isearch-forward(nil 1) funcall-interactively(isearch-forward nil 1) call-interactively(isearch-forward nil nil) command-execute(isearch-forward) Error occurs by opening then Ctrl-s in the *scratch* buffer. It seems related to #20532, but it's occuring on Emacs-25 head, so I've put a new report in. Once the error has occured, I cannot exit i-search, so Emacs is unrecoverable. I *think* it may be something amiss with loaddefs -- I only found the bug because I have a newly installed built emacs which has been built from bootstrap. In GNU Emacs 25.0.93.4 (x86_64-unknown-linux-gnu, GTK+ Version 3.10.8) of 2016-05-03 built on jangai Repository revision: 2ea2a2f1a5b5b2e1b20f1ee8c86058334d0a2652 Windowing system distributor 'The X.Org Foundation', version 11.0.11501000 System Description: Ubuntu 14.04.4 LTS Configured using: 'configure --enable-checking --enable-check-lisp-object-type --config-cache 'CFLAGS=-Og -g3' CC=/usr/bin/gcc-5' Configured features: XPM JPEG TIFF GIF PNG RSVG IMAGEMAGICK SOUND GPM DBUS GCONF GSETTINGS NOTIFY LIBSELINUX GNUTLS LIBXML2 FREETYPE M17N_FLT LIBOTF XFT ZLIB TOOLKIT_SCROLL_BARS GTK3 X11 Important settings: value of $LANG: en_GB.UTF-8 value of $XMODIFIERS: @im=ibus locale-coding-system: utf-8-unix Major mode: Group Minor modes in effect: global-pabbrev-mode: t which-key-mode: t gnus-undo-mode: t yas-global-mode: t yas-minor-mode: t helm-mode: t shell-dirtrack-mode: t async-bytecomp-package-mode: t auto-image-file-mode: t winner-mode: t override-global-mode: t tooltip-mode: t 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(heap 1024 69840 4817)) From unknown Tue Jun 24 05:13:22 2025 X-Loop: help-debbugs@gnu.org Subject: bug#23446: 25.0.93; cursor-sensor-inhibit Resent-From: Ken Brown Original-Sender: "Debbugs-submit" Resent-CC: bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org Resent-Date: Wed, 04 May 2016 13:46:01 +0000 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-Sender: help-debbugs@gnu.org X-GNU-PR-Message: followup 23446 X-GNU-PR-Package: emacs X-GNU-PR-Keywords: To: Phillip Lord , 23446@debbugs.gnu.org Received: via spool by 23446-submit@debbugs.gnu.org id=B23446.14623695506683 (code B ref 23446); Wed, 04 May 2016 13:46:01 +0000 Received: (at 23446) by debbugs.gnu.org; 4 May 2016 13:45:50 +0000 Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:36537 helo=debbugs.gnu.org) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1axx7e-0001jj-6g for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Wed, 04 May 2016 09:45:50 -0400 Received: from limerock01.mail.cornell.edu ([128.84.13.241]:49684) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1axx7c-0001jX-Ud 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Received: from authusersmtp.mail.cornell.edu (granite3.serverfarm.cornell.edu [10.16.197.8]) by limerock01.mail.cornell.edu (8.14.4/8.14.4_cu) with ESMTP id u44DjgW6001804; Wed, 4 May 2016 09:45:42 -0400 Received: from [192.168.1.3] (mta-68-175-148-36.twcny.rr.com [68.175.148.36] (may be forged)) (authenticated bits=0) by authusersmtp.mail.cornell.edu (8.14.4/8.12.10) with ESMTP id u44DjfZG011129 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=DHE-RSA-AES128-SHA bits=128 verify=NOT); Wed, 4 May 2016 09:45:42 -0400 References: <87h9eekmit.fsf@russet.org.uk> From: Ken Brown Message-ID: Date: Wed, 4 May 2016 09:45:41 -0400 User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows NT 10.0; WOW64; rv:45.0) Gecko/20100101 Thunderbird/45.0 MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: <87h9eekmit.fsf@russet.org.uk> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=windows-1252; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-PMX-Cornell-Gauge: Gauge=XXXXX X-Spam-Score: -4.4 (----) X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18 Precedence: list List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Sender: "Debbugs-submit" X-Spam-Score: -4.4 (----) On 5/4/2016 8:58 AM, Phillip Lord wrote: > I am getting the following error from a freshly bootstrapped emacs > launching with emacs -q > > Debugger entered--Lisp error: (void-variable cursor-sensor-inhibit) > I *think* it may be something amiss with loaddefs Try 'make -C lisp autoloads'. Ken From unknown Tue Jun 24 05:13:22 2025 X-Loop: help-debbugs@gnu.org Subject: bug#23446: 25.0.93; cursor-sensor-inhibit Resent-From: phillip.lord@russet.org.uk (Phillip Lord) Original-Sender: "Debbugs-submit" Resent-CC: bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org Resent-Date: Wed, 04 May 2016 16:38:02 +0000 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-Sender: help-debbugs@gnu.org X-GNU-PR-Message: followup 23446 X-GNU-PR-Package: emacs X-GNU-PR-Keywords: To: 23446@debbugs.gnu.org Cc: kbrown@cornell.edu Received: via spool by 23446-submit@debbugs.gnu.org id=B23446.14623798414880 (code B ref 23446); Wed, 04 May 2016 16:38:02 +0000 Received: (at 23446) by debbugs.gnu.org; 4 May 2016 16:37:21 +0000 Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:38041 helo=debbugs.gnu.org) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1axznd-0001Ge-D5 for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Wed, 04 May 2016 12:37:21 -0400 Received: from cloud103.planethippo.com ([31.216.48.48]:39862) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1axznb-0001GP-Ag for 23446@debbugs.gnu.org; Wed, 04 May 2016 12:37:19 -0400 DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; q=dns/txt; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=russet.org.uk; s=default; h=Content-Type:MIME-Version:Message-ID: In-Reply-To:Date:References:Subject:Cc:To:From; bh=1f0Q2XZkrsUndeNvDP009iRgvfzsh7EdTd1pQy0KfOk=; b=BibvfzAqPJ5nLHyhhcPFfrtTRe HfJH20fcv3hpH1xVeCefU4ywfVG28j45X9tcEAg6a9Cr7coz5e2b7IZWhFtF42IwfJpTdiwt9Fx7b D8w7Ywz9pkYHCs+oEzw/IiU7OK2OQ5bQ1acXjWxU8M2C+FojCGuB4AIn1igRnVvfkzusL3abnEBpw mPrtkjCWWh2oc41vDVh192uLaPBZq36TGZdAvlJb7ECQDNGC+sWMgnEif/ObOkW9ESl1AttUZKzzD pl6LyKVo99fY6gP5XHRwOFBd3V8NYRQRN9+j4GpVWkX2mAV4ixkOPI6P7rLmC/8JJVZMCm8xVLbS8 rNtrzOYQ==; Received: from janus-nat-128-240-225-60.ncl.ac.uk ([128.240.225.60]:32350 helo=russet.org.uk) by cloud103.planethippo.com with esmtpsa (TLSv1.2:DHE-RSA-AES128-SHA:128) (Exim 4.86_1) (envelope-from ) id 1axznV-004KTU-Cn; Wed, 04 May 2016 17:37:13 +0100 From: phillip.lord@russet.org.uk (Phillip Lord) References: <87h9eekmit.fsf@russet.org.uk> Date: Wed, 04 May 2016 17:37:12 +0100 In-Reply-To: (Ken Brown's message of "Wed, 4 May 2016 09:45:41 -0400") Message-ID: <87zis5eq4n.fsf@russet.org.uk> User-Agent: Gnus/5.13 (Gnus v5.13) Emacs/25.0.93 (gnu/linux) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain X-AntiAbuse: This header was added to track abuse, please include it with any abuse report X-AntiAbuse: Primary Hostname - cloud103.planethippo.com X-AntiAbuse: Original Domain - debbugs.gnu.org X-AntiAbuse: Originator/Caller UID/GID - [47 12] / [47 12] X-AntiAbuse: Sender Address Domain - russet.org.uk X-Get-Message-Sender-Via: cloud103.planethippo.com: authenticated_id: phillip.lord@russet.org.uk X-Authenticated-Sender: cloud103.planethippo.com: phillip.lord@russet.org.uk X-Spam-Score: 0.0 (/) X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18 Precedence: list List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Sender: "Debbugs-submit" X-Spam-Score: 0.0 (/) Ken Brown writes: > On 5/4/2016 8:58 AM, Phillip Lord wrote: >> I am getting the following error from a freshly bootstrapped emacs >> launching with emacs -q >> >> Debugger entered--Lisp error: (void-variable cursor-sensor-inhibit) > >> I *think* it may be something amiss with loaddefs > > Try 'make -C lisp autoloads'. I think you are on the right track. I often build out-of-source, where you can clean by just deleting everything. But, this does not clean either loaddefs.el or the elc files. And, I notice, that cursor-sensor-inhibit has had an autoload cookie added recently. So, it maybe that my build was somewhat inconsistent. I'll leave this bug report open for a couple of days in case anyone else finds the problem. If not, I'll close. Phil From debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Wed May 04 12:45:55 2016 Received: (at control) by debbugs.gnu.org; 4 May 2016 16:45:55 +0000 Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:38057 helo=debbugs.gnu.org) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1axzvv-0001UQ-6A for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Wed, 04 May 2016 12:45:55 -0400 Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([208.118.235.92]:52090) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1axzvt-0001UB-Gw for control@debbugs.gnu.org; Wed, 04 May 2016 12:45:53 -0400 Received: from Debian-exim by eggs.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1axzvf-0008Be-4P for control@debbugs.gnu.org; Wed, 04 May 2016 12:45:45 -0400 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.3.2 (2011-06-06) on eggs.gnu.org X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-4.0 required=5.0 tests=BAYES_00,RP_MATCHES_RCVD autolearn=disabled version=3.3.2 Received: from fencepost.gnu.org ([2001:4830:134:3::e]:51894) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1axzvf-0008Ac-21 for control@debbugs.gnu.org; Wed, 04 May 2016 12:45:39 -0400 Received: from rgm by fencepost.gnu.org with local (Exim 4.82) (envelope-from ) id 1axzvZ-0003Xn-Q7 for control@debbugs.gnu.org; Wed, 04 May 2016 12:45:34 -0400 Subject: control message for bug 23446 To: X-Mailer: mail (GNU Mailutils 2.99.98) Message-Id: From: Glenn Morris Date: Wed, 04 May 2016 12:45:33 -0400 X-detected-operating-system: by eggs.gnu.org: GNU/Linux 2.2.x-3.x [generic] X-Received-From: 2001:4830:134:3::e X-Spam-Score: -7.1 (-------) X-Debbugs-Envelope-To: control X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18 Precedence: list List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Sender: "Debbugs-submit" X-Spam-Score: -7.1 (-------) tag notabug tag 23446 notabug From unknown Tue Jun 24 05:13:22 2025 X-Loop: help-debbugs@gnu.org Subject: bug#23446: 25.0.93; cursor-sensor-inhibit Resent-From: Ken Brown Original-Sender: "Debbugs-submit" Resent-CC: bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org Resent-Date: Wed, 04 May 2016 18:15:02 +0000 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-Sender: help-debbugs@gnu.org X-GNU-PR-Message: followup 23446 X-GNU-PR-Package: emacs X-GNU-PR-Keywords: notabug To: Phillip Lord , 23446@debbugs.gnu.org Received: via spool by 23446-submit@debbugs.gnu.org id=B23446.146238564920467 (code B ref 23446); Wed, 04 May 2016 18:15:02 +0000 Received: (at 23446) by debbugs.gnu.org; 4 May 2016 18:14:09 +0000 Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:38154 helo=debbugs.gnu.org) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1ay1JJ-0005K3-6L for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Wed, 04 May 2016 14:14:09 -0400 Received: from limerock02.mail.cornell.edu ([128.84.13.242]:37877) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1ay1JH-0005Jd-Cu for 23446@debbugs.gnu.org; Wed, 04 May 2016 14:14:07 -0400 X-CornellRouted: This message has been Routed already. Received: from authusersmtp.mail.cornell.edu (granite4.serverfarm.cornell.edu [10.16.197.9]) by limerock02.mail.cornell.edu (8.14.4/8.14.4_cu) with ESMTP id u44IE1Oq004587; Wed, 4 May 2016 14:14:01 -0400 Received: from [192.168.1.3] (mta-68-175-148-36.twcny.rr.com [68.175.148.36] (may be forged)) (authenticated bits=0) by authusersmtp.mail.cornell.edu (8.14.4/8.12.10) with ESMTP id u44IDxaG012071 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=DHE-RSA-AES128-SHA bits=128 verify=NOT); Wed, 4 May 2016 14:14:00 -0400 References: <87h9eekmit.fsf@russet.org.uk> <87zis5eq4n.fsf@russet.org.uk> From: Ken Brown Message-ID: <6dec109f-8a2d-27ff-f9ae-f1db0b242059@cornell.edu> Date: Wed, 4 May 2016 14:14:00 -0400 User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows NT 10.0; WOW64; rv:45.0) Gecko/20100101 Thunderbird/45.0 MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: <87zis5eq4n.fsf@russet.org.uk> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=windows-1252; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-PMX-Cornell-Gauge: Gauge=XXXXX X-Spam-Score: -4.4 (----) X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18 Precedence: list List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Sender: "Debbugs-submit" X-Spam-Score: -4.4 (----) On 5/4/2016 12:37 PM, Phillip Lord wrote: > Ken Brown writes: > >> On 5/4/2016 8:58 AM, Phillip Lord wrote: >>> I am getting the following error from a freshly bootstrapped emacs >>> launching with emacs -q >>> >>> Debugger entered--Lisp error: (void-variable cursor-sensor-inhibit) >> >>> I *think* it may be something amiss with loaddefs >> >> Try 'make -C lisp autoloads'. > > > I think you are on the right track. > > I often build out-of-source, where you can clean by just deleting > everything. But, this does not clean either loaddefs.el or the elc > files. 'make bootstrap' *does* remove loaddefs.el and the elc files, even in an out-of-source build. When you referred to a freshly bootstrapped emacs, did you mean that you ran 'make bootstrap'? Ken From unknown Tue Jun 24 05:13:22 2025 X-Loop: help-debbugs@gnu.org Subject: bug#23446: 25.0.93; cursor-sensor-inhibit Resent-From: Phillip Lord Original-Sender: "Debbugs-submit" Resent-CC: bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org Resent-Date: Wed, 04 May 2016 21:22:01 +0000 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-Sender: help-debbugs@gnu.org X-GNU-PR-Message: followup 23446 X-GNU-PR-Package: emacs X-GNU-PR-Keywords: notabug To: Ken Brown Cc: 23446@debbugs.gnu.org Received: via spool by 23446-submit@debbugs.gnu.org id=B23446.146239691331607 (code B ref 23446); Wed, 04 May 2016 21:22:01 +0000 Received: (at 23446) by debbugs.gnu.org; 4 May 2016 21:21:53 +0000 Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:38370 helo=debbugs.gnu.org) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1ay4Ey-0008Di-Q9 for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Wed, 04 May 2016 17:21:52 -0400 Received: from cloud103.planethippo.com ([31.216.48.48]:48635) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1ay4Ex-0008DW-3S for 23446@debbugs.gnu.org; Wed, 04 May 2016 17:21:51 -0400 DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; q=dns/txt; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=russet.org.uk; s=default; h=Content-Type:MIME-Version:Message-ID: In-Reply-To:Date:References:Subject:Cc:To:From; bh=Puh2zfjf62lKdJl5p6dhnwd1HutFtMFAFijTObilvE4=; b=hFKq1FtqH3WzcpuN1UpQESxZsW XA3CvBF7iiiEaMjRCzmTn78oXdpwU/a59tIdb/VYnPjzDisBdLZPSqicCdY6m/pItfxCJQM4C/DFA +7QInqgE5qkyrlwIMemfgBHSHudvP3P1sgCZuWneXotBbHSNYiVLaPY3k0ApSfNwIF6ilSyr7Wbfd RiA8K91ny21mFg6zUOv1XnJrKSJMqHfzdARNlQOXecuAl1y2Jx3qQHbbFwKIw51aYLeRj5CN/ODxe 6T7e01lce5C8MFjJYV0DoAQiHFB+wpUtAWGOEBwh2sJJ/n2WQjhmpsx/+fblKCYQI+SedTLmkU+YS qFPAAB5w==; Received: from cpc1-benw10-2-0-cust373.gate.cable.virginm.net ([77.98.219.118]:43408 helo=russet.org.uk) by cloud103.planethippo.com with esmtpsa (TLSv1.2:DHE-RSA-AES128-SHA:128) (Exim 4.86_1) (envelope-from ) id 1ay4Eq-000dhd-Ta; Wed, 04 May 2016 22:21:45 +0100 From: Phillip Lord References: <87h9eekmit.fsf@russet.org.uk> <87zis5eq4n.fsf@russet.org.uk> <6dec109f-8a2d-27ff-f9ae-f1db0b242059@cornell.edu> Date: Wed, 04 May 2016 22:21:44 +0100 In-Reply-To: <6dec109f-8a2d-27ff-f9ae-f1db0b242059@cornell.edu> (Ken Brown's message of "Wed, 4 May 2016 14:14:00 -0400") Message-ID: <87pot134ev.fsf@russet.org.uk> User-Agent: Gnus/5.13 (Gnus v5.13) Emacs/25.0.93 (gnu/linux) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain X-AntiAbuse: This header was added to track abuse, please include it with any abuse report X-AntiAbuse: Primary Hostname - cloud103.planethippo.com X-AntiAbuse: Original Domain - debbugs.gnu.org X-AntiAbuse: Originator/Caller UID/GID - [47 12] / [47 12] X-AntiAbuse: Sender Address Domain - russet.org.uk X-Get-Message-Sender-Via: cloud103.planethippo.com: authenticated_id: phillip.lord@russet.org.uk X-Authenticated-Sender: cloud103.planethippo.com: phillip.lord@russet.org.uk X-Spam-Score: 0.0 (/) X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18 Precedence: list List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Sender: "Debbugs-submit" X-Spam-Score: 0.0 (/) Ken Brown writes: > On 5/4/2016 12:37 PM, Phillip Lord wrote: >> Ken Brown writes: >> >>> On 5/4/2016 8:58 AM, Phillip Lord wrote: >>>> I am getting the following error from a freshly bootstrapped emacs >>>> launching with emacs -q >>>> >>>> Debugger entered--Lisp error: (void-variable cursor-sensor-inhibit) >>> >>>> I *think* it may be something amiss with loaddefs >>> >>> Try 'make -C lisp autoloads'. >> >> >> I think you are on the right track. >> >> I often build out-of-source, where you can clean by just deleting >> everything. But, this does not clean either loaddefs.el or the elc >> files. > > 'make bootstrap' *does* remove loaddefs.el and the elc files, even in an > out-of-source build. > > When you referred to a freshly bootstrapped emacs, did you mean that > you ran 'make bootstrap'? No, I mean build from a clean source tree. I rarely use make bootstrap for this because you have to run configure first. Normally I clean with git clean, or just delete the directory for out-of-source. So, this looks like up a failure during updating rather than anything else. Slightly surprised if it's only me, but there we have it. Phil From unknown Tue Jun 24 05:13:22 2025 X-Loop: help-debbugs@gnu.org Subject: bug#23446: 25.0.93; cursor-sensor-inhibit Resent-From: Ken Brown Original-Sender: "Debbugs-submit" Resent-CC: bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org Resent-Date: Wed, 04 May 2016 22:01:02 +0000 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-Sender: help-debbugs@gnu.org X-GNU-PR-Message: followup 23446 X-GNU-PR-Package: emacs X-GNU-PR-Keywords: notabug To: Phillip Lord Cc: 23446@debbugs.gnu.org Received: via spool by 23446-submit@debbugs.gnu.org id=B23446.14623992152926 (code B ref 23446); Wed, 04 May 2016 22:01:02 +0000 Received: (at 23446) by debbugs.gnu.org; 4 May 2016 22:00:15 +0000 Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:38424 helo=debbugs.gnu.org) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1ay4q7-0000l8-46 for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Wed, 04 May 2016 18:00:15 -0400 Received: from limerock03.mail.cornell.edu ([128.84.13.243]:56582) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1ay4q5-0000ku-MH for 23446@debbugs.gnu.org; Wed, 04 May 2016 18:00:14 -0400 X-CornellRouted: This message has been Routed already. Received: from authusersmtp.mail.cornell.edu (granite3.serverfarm.cornell.edu [10.16.197.8]) by limerock03.mail.cornell.edu (8.14.4/8.14.4_cu) with ESMTP id u44M07G7009122; Wed, 4 May 2016 18:00:08 -0400 Received: from [192.168.1.3] (mta-68-175-148-36.twcny.rr.com [68.175.148.36] (may be forged)) (authenticated bits=0) by authusersmtp.mail.cornell.edu (8.14.4/8.12.10) with ESMTP id u44M0637008814 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=DHE-RSA-AES128-SHA bits=128 verify=NOT); Wed, 4 May 2016 18:00:07 -0400 References: <87h9eekmit.fsf@russet.org.uk> <87zis5eq4n.fsf@russet.org.uk> <6dec109f-8a2d-27ff-f9ae-f1db0b242059@cornell.edu> <87pot134ev.fsf@russet.org.uk> From: Ken Brown Message-ID: Date: Wed, 4 May 2016 18:00:06 -0400 User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows NT 10.0; WOW64; rv:45.0) Gecko/20100101 Thunderbird/45.0 MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: <87pot134ev.fsf@russet.org.uk> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-PMX-Cornell-Gauge: Gauge=XXXXX X-Spam-Score: -4.4 (----) X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18 Precedence: list List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Sender: "Debbugs-submit" X-Spam-Score: -4.4 (----) On 5/4/2016 5:21 PM, Phillip Lord wrote: > Ken Brown writes: > >> On 5/4/2016 12:37 PM, Phillip Lord wrote: >>> Ken Brown writes: >>> >>>> On 5/4/2016 8:58 AM, Phillip Lord wrote: >>>>> I am getting the following error from a freshly bootstrapped emacs >>>>> launching with emacs -q >>>>> >>>>> Debugger entered--Lisp error: (void-variable cursor-sensor-inhibit) >>>> >>>>> I *think* it may be something amiss with loaddefs >>>> >>>> Try 'make -C lisp autoloads'. >>> >>> >>> I think you are on the right track. >>> >>> I often build out-of-source, where you can clean by just deleting >>> everything. But, this does not clean either loaddefs.el or the elc >>> files. >> >> 'make bootstrap' *does* remove loaddefs.el and the elc files, even in an >> out-of-source build. >> >> When you referred to a freshly bootstrapped emacs, did you mean that >> you ran 'make bootstrap'? > > No, I mean build from a clean source tree. I rarely use make bootstrap > for this because you have to run configure first. Normally I clean with > git clean, or just delete the directory for out-of-source. > > So, this looks like up a failure during updating rather than anything > else. No, what happened is that the autoloads files got out of date and needed to be regenerated by 'make -C lisp autoloads', as I said in my first reply. This happens from time to time and is documented in INSTALL.REPO. It works perfectly well in an out-of-source build. If you delete your build directory, however, then you've thrown away your Makefile, and it's too late. The only reason you aren't bitten by this more often is that Glenn periodically updates the autoloads. See, for example, his commit 3cade20. Ken From unknown Tue Jun 24 05:13:22 2025 X-Loop: help-debbugs@gnu.org Subject: bug#23446: 25.0.93; cursor-sensor-inhibit Resent-From: Glenn Morris Original-Sender: "Debbugs-submit" Resent-CC: bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org Resent-Date: Wed, 04 May 2016 22:13:01 +0000 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-Sender: help-debbugs@gnu.org X-GNU-PR-Message: followup 23446 X-GNU-PR-Package: emacs X-GNU-PR-Keywords: notabug To: Phillip Lord Cc: 23446@debbugs.gnu.org, Ken Brown Received: via spool by 23446-submit@debbugs.gnu.org id=B23446.14623999314028 (code B ref 23446); Wed, 04 May 2016 22:13:01 +0000 Received: (at 23446) by debbugs.gnu.org; 4 May 2016 22:12:11 +0000 Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:38434 helo=debbugs.gnu.org) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1ay51e-00012u-Oy for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Wed, 04 May 2016 18:12:10 -0400 Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([208.118.235.92]:54992) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1ay51d-00012i-Lp for 23446@debbugs.gnu.org; Wed, 04 May 2016 18:12:09 -0400 Received: from Debian-exim by eggs.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1ay51P-0008QF-7F for 23446@debbugs.gnu.org; Wed, 04 May 2016 18:12:01 -0400 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.3.2 (2011-06-06) on eggs.gnu.org X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-2.1 required=5.0 tests=BAYES_40,RP_MATCHES_RCVD autolearn=disabled version=3.3.2 Received: from fencepost.gnu.org ([2001:4830:134:3::e]:57361) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1ay50B-0007nl-PO; Wed, 04 May 2016 18:10:39 -0400 Received: from rgm by fencepost.gnu.org with local (Exim 4.82) (envelope-from ) id 1ay505-00009i-I9; Wed, 04 May 2016 18:10:33 -0400 From: Glenn Morris References: <87h9eekmit.fsf@russet.org.uk> <87zis5eq4n.fsf@russet.org.uk> <6dec109f-8a2d-27ff-f9ae-f1db0b242059@cornell.edu> <87pot134ev.fsf@russet.org.uk> X-Spook: Albanian Secret Service assassination DDOS Grid Sears X-Ran: 2l_e}EPlV"s`p; (Phillip Lord's message of "Wed, 04 May 2016 22:21:44 +0100") Message-ID: User-Agent: Gnus (www.gnus.org), GNU Emacs (www.gnu.org/software/emacs/) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain X-detected-operating-system: by eggs.gnu.org: GNU/Linux 2.2.x-3.x [generic] X-Received-From: 2001:4830:134:3::e X-Spam-Score: -7.1 (-------) X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18 Precedence: list List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Sender: "Debbugs-submit" X-Spam-Score: -7.1 (-------) Phillip Lord wrote: >> When you referred to a freshly bootstrapped emacs, did you mean that >> you ran 'make bootstrap'? > > No, I mean build from a clean source tree. I rarely use make bootstrap > for this because you have to run configure first. Normally I clean with > git clean, or just delete the directory for out-of-source. Please don't say you "bootstrapped" unless you really did "make bootstrap". Otherwise it gets confusing. :) In particular, deleting the build directory for an out-of-tree build is not at all the same thing (it only removes the C stuff, not any of the lisp stuff). From unknown Tue Jun 24 05:13:22 2025 X-Loop: help-debbugs@gnu.org Subject: bug#23446: 25.0.93; cursor-sensor-inhibit Resent-From: Phillip Lord Original-Sender: "Debbugs-submit" Resent-CC: bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org Resent-Date: Wed, 04 May 2016 22:51:02 +0000 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-Sender: help-debbugs@gnu.org X-GNU-PR-Message: followup 23446 X-GNU-PR-Package: emacs X-GNU-PR-Keywords: notabug To: Ken Brown Cc: 23446@debbugs.gnu.org Received: via spool by 23446-submit@debbugs.gnu.org id=B23446.14624022307697 (code B ref 23446); Wed, 04 May 2016 22:51:02 +0000 Received: (at 23446) by debbugs.gnu.org; 4 May 2016 22:50:30 +0000 Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:38469 helo=debbugs.gnu.org) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1ay5ck-000205-28 for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Wed, 04 May 2016 18:50:30 -0400 Received: from cloud103.planethippo.com ([31.216.48.48]:51419) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1ay5ci-0001zq-U1 for 23446@debbugs.gnu.org; Wed, 04 May 2016 18:50:29 -0400 DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; q=dns/txt; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=russet.org.uk; s=default; h=Content-Type:MIME-Version:Message-ID: In-Reply-To:Date:References:Subject:Cc:To:From; bh=zeN+dCsBmquqPwWbwRIgjGyJz779Wg03h8LjoImQA+0=; b=03qr3uB6Jt3wzf1KK4i3rJDNGR UpaR1syBOOf6A1ky9esHiAC5ZlkkzZw1Kup+GQXnPhyvMKU1h/+Z93jT6w/CVXZ592anK9bybbzeK EXvMRKhTHVODfPVJfzj1IRcKVBrEGl+ekTuJgqkrFq24ZIvL/bQM1bGqIWEXVHJgXrpumC0V2kx/4 g3F1Kp2rd2MHGIlbj92c3Fw8F5cqxEZQKJkrbj8K7ihkrKuKAWvW7OVotU8cMnqioYia82UJsRKZ9 0M/qio1Yc3qC0GWpb838yXB1tqck7oM7XeHLTedX3RqUmlqySGj9dqziQrp1k5vqaf+3Kj8W6gPs1 sNttUzPA==; Received: from cpc1-benw10-2-0-cust373.gate.cable.virginm.net ([77.98.219.118]:43794 helo=russet.org.uk) by cloud103.planethippo.com with esmtpsa (TLSv1.2:DHE-RSA-AES128-SHA:128) (Exim 4.86_1) (envelope-from ) id 1ay5cc-000r2I-Un; Wed, 04 May 2016 23:50:23 +0100 From: Phillip Lord References: <87h9eekmit.fsf@russet.org.uk> <87zis5eq4n.fsf@russet.org.uk> <6dec109f-8a2d-27ff-f9ae-f1db0b242059@cornell.edu> <87pot134ev.fsf@russet.org.uk> Date: Wed, 04 May 2016 23:50:22 +0100 In-Reply-To: (Ken Brown's message of "Wed, 4 May 2016 18:00:06 -0400") Message-ID: <87eg9h4evl.fsf@russet.org.uk> User-Agent: Gnus/5.13 (Gnus v5.13) Emacs/25.0.93 (gnu/linux) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain X-AntiAbuse: This header was added to track abuse, please include it with any abuse report X-AntiAbuse: Primary Hostname - cloud103.planethippo.com X-AntiAbuse: Original Domain - debbugs.gnu.org X-AntiAbuse: Originator/Caller UID/GID - [47 12] / [47 12] X-AntiAbuse: Sender Address Domain - russet.org.uk X-Get-Message-Sender-Via: cloud103.planethippo.com: authenticated_id: phillip.lord@russet.org.uk X-Authenticated-Sender: cloud103.planethippo.com: phillip.lord@russet.org.uk X-Spam-Score: 0.0 (/) X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18 Precedence: list List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Sender: "Debbugs-submit" X-Spam-Score: 0.0 (/) Ken Brown writes: > On 5/4/2016 5:21 PM, Phillip Lord wrote: >> Ken Brown writes: >>>>> On 5/4/2016 8:58 AM, Phillip Lord wrote: >> So, this looks like up a failure during updating rather than anything >> else. > > No, what happened is that the autoloads files got out of date and needed to be > regenerated by 'make -C lisp autoloads', as I said in my first reply. This > happens from time to time and is documented in INSTALL.REPO. It works > perfectly well in an out-of-source build. If you delete your build directory, > however, then you've thrown away your Makefile, and it's too late. > > The only reason you aren't bitten by this more often is that Glenn > periodically updates the autoloads. See, for example, his commit 3cade20. Yes, I checked the autoload commits and cursor-sensor-inhibit has been added to ldefs-boot.el in that commit. I couldn't work out why that would cause this form of error though (it should prevent it). The actual cause is b755d988b498b19bd which added the autoload cookie, and 16e5e8e4ea4a which removed the a (setq cursor-sensor-inhibit nil) form. So, yes, autoloads out of date, and me being confused about my build state. Will close. Phil From unknown Tue Jun 24 05:13:22 2025 X-Loop: help-debbugs@gnu.org Subject: bug#23446: 25.0.93; cursor-sensor-inhibit Resent-From: Phillip Lord Original-Sender: "Debbugs-submit" Resent-CC: bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org Resent-Date: Wed, 04 May 2016 22:52:01 +0000 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-Sender: help-debbugs@gnu.org X-GNU-PR-Message: followup 23446 X-GNU-PR-Package: emacs X-GNU-PR-Keywords: notabug To: Glenn Morris Cc: 23446@debbugs.gnu.org, Ken Brown Received: via spool by 23446-submit@debbugs.gnu.org id=B23446.14624022987812 (code B ref 23446); Wed, 04 May 2016 22:52:01 +0000 Received: (at 23446) by debbugs.gnu.org; 4 May 2016 22:51:38 +0000 Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:38474 helo=debbugs.gnu.org) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1ay5dm-00021s-CJ for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Wed, 04 May 2016 18:51:38 -0400 Received: from cloud103.planethippo.com ([31.216.48.48]:51463) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1ay5dk-00021a-Dp for 23446@debbugs.gnu.org; Wed, 04 May 2016 18:51:32 -0400 DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; q=dns/txt; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=russet.org.uk; s=default; h=Content-Type:MIME-Version:Message-ID: In-Reply-To:Date:References:Subject:Cc:To:From; bh=5XIeVem5vGmoTKChRUQi5P5Owa/HAjk6baln2YD3eqs=; b=nnaqOwrxhk80D3wQXxju/pUziF izg8mWeXyfKpCh4+szMm9/L8X1y8PMYsWlmOWQgblC4jkUuFxZF2ALvtyinoMtXoPBu6xJaLPx0ba 08OESUoZwwpyoA3HkHPeHvuFyYcE5PpEjvIPpPH2tSWpHzhfiZdgMgo7PImpltnHVWGSKexCVY687 cP9eByjFCzJB2XBfhc46vCzIcCH1ajN1SHe7KzPxLRGXJj17RbTIBBhzA53alv3gsQRuWcO8OaCNH 5rwk7VebFHqWZqZPxOaAixTXnugeDJcocL//BwWi8XD/nypshzkKaKDpV2x0HmetStIFSWzypwT6N vt7XZ6FA==; Received: from cpc1-benw10-2-0-cust373.gate.cable.virginm.net ([77.98.219.118]:43796 helo=russet.org.uk) by cloud103.planethippo.com with esmtpsa (TLSv1.2:DHE-RSA-AES128-SHA:128) (Exim 4.86_1) (envelope-from ) id 1ay5de-000rC2-Fn; Wed, 04 May 2016 23:51:26 +0100 From: Phillip Lord References: <87h9eekmit.fsf@russet.org.uk> <87zis5eq4n.fsf@russet.org.uk> <6dec109f-8a2d-27ff-f9ae-f1db0b242059@cornell.edu> <87pot134ev.fsf@russet.org.uk> Date: Wed, 04 May 2016 23:51:25 +0100 In-Reply-To: (Glenn Morris's message of "Wed, 04 May 2016 18:10:33 -0400") Message-ID: <87a8k54etu.fsf@russet.org.uk> User-Agent: Gnus/5.13 (Gnus v5.13) Emacs/25.0.93 (gnu/linux) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain X-AntiAbuse: This header was added to track abuse, please include it with any abuse report X-AntiAbuse: Primary Hostname - cloud103.planethippo.com X-AntiAbuse: Original Domain - debbugs.gnu.org X-AntiAbuse: Originator/Caller UID/GID - [47 12] / [47 12] X-AntiAbuse: Sender Address Domain - russet.org.uk X-Get-Message-Sender-Via: cloud103.planethippo.com: authenticated_id: phillip.lord@russet.org.uk X-Authenticated-Sender: cloud103.planethippo.com: phillip.lord@russet.org.uk X-Spam-Score: 0.0 (/) X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18 Precedence: list List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Sender: "Debbugs-submit" X-Spam-Score: 0.0 (/) Glenn Morris writes: > Phillip Lord wrote: > >>> When you referred to a freshly bootstrapped emacs, did you mean that >>> you ran 'make bootstrap'? >> >> No, I mean build from a clean source tree. I rarely use make bootstrap >> for this because you have to run configure first. Normally I clean with >> git clean, or just delete the directory for out-of-source. > > Please don't say you "bootstrapped" unless you really did "make bootstrap". > Otherwise it gets confusing. :) Just so. > In particular, deleting the build directory for an out-of-tree build > is not at all the same thing (it only removes the C stuff, not any of > the lisp stuff). Yes. Might go back to in-tree builds. Phil From debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Wed May 04 18:54:08 2016 Received: (at control) by debbugs.gnu.org; 4 May 2016 22:54:08 +0000 Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:38479 helo=debbugs.gnu.org) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1ay5gG-000267-Ar for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Wed, 04 May 2016 18:54:08 -0400 Received: from cloud103.planethippo.com ([31.216.48.48]:51558) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1ay5gE-00025i-UL for control@debbugs.gnu.org; Wed, 04 May 2016 18:54:07 -0400 DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; q=dns/txt; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=russet.org.uk; s=default; h=Content-Type:MIME-Version:Message-ID:Date: Subject:To:From; bh=7kPV8FZSEE4pKMDW7xbqzvIVGkfMsEWfGvBELacplp0=; b=AEVdMsow1 a1T9YhGYvk9Y2pyiaawLslrFFL3E/e2JZKyPbM4QUAr9TnakrvoNKOVoI4xDuTla8nLmENfblSCIs xAWy5boKVaOsD901EOFhTEfdiiwPop5hBeDHPoFal2jVfE9knRv3zQ1SRH7XFhhK4zwX4bcQebNcb Ph0zrwSD73kyILZpx5wRr44NZ/eOJJZ+wdDvNGFNeq9cSWKu9U0Q4ejGOq4uuetE+Fie7JYjghlLP nBNjTNLPN9A+qwBu7OyMtnRsM4UkbvLcrNoH3N9+SfRDnVxLBoaMuu8VBk3v8cDgG0878q6il8oHL LPvmuq8DjaHLg0ptAQbYG3uaQ==; Received: from cpc1-benw10-2-0-cust373.gate.cable.virginm.net ([77.98.219.118]:43806 helo=russet.org.uk) by cloud103.planethippo.com with esmtpsa (TLSv1.2:DHE-RSA-AES128-SHA:128) (Exim 4.86_1) (envelope-from ) id 1ay5g8-000rWB-BK for control@debbugs.gnu.org; Wed, 04 May 2016 23:54:01 +0100 From: Phillip Lord To: control@debbugs.gnu.org Subject: control message for bug #23446 Date: Wed, 04 May 2016 23:53:58 +0100 Message-ID: <8760ut4epl.fsf@russet.org.uk> User-Agent: Gnus/5.13 (Gnus v5.13) Emacs/25.0.93 (gnu/linux) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain X-AntiAbuse: This header was added to track abuse, please include it with any abuse report X-AntiAbuse: Primary Hostname - cloud103.planethippo.com X-AntiAbuse: Original Domain - debbugs.gnu.org X-AntiAbuse: Originator/Caller UID/GID - [47 12] / [47 12] X-AntiAbuse: Sender Address Domain - russet.org.uk X-Get-Message-Sender-Via: cloud103.planethippo.com: authenticated_id: phillip.lord@russet.org.uk X-Authenticated-Sender: cloud103.planethippo.com: phillip.lord@russet.org.uk X-Spam-Score: 0.0 (/) X-Debbugs-Envelope-To: control X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18 Precedence: list List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Sender: "Debbugs-submit" X-Spam-Score: 0.0 (/) close 23446 25.1 From unknown Tue Jun 24 05:13:22 2025 X-Loop: help-debbugs@gnu.org Subject: bug#23446: 25.0.93; cursor-sensor-inhibit Resent-From: Andreas Schwab Original-Sender: "Debbugs-submit" Resent-CC: bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org Resent-Date: Thu, 05 May 2016 07:08:01 +0000 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-Sender: help-debbugs@gnu.org X-GNU-PR-Message: followup 23446 X-GNU-PR-Package: emacs X-GNU-PR-Keywords: notabug To: Phillip Lord Cc: 23446@debbugs.gnu.org, Ken Brown Received: via spool by 23446-submit@debbugs.gnu.org id=B23446.146243206127350 (code B ref 23446); Thu, 05 May 2016 07:08:01 +0000 Received: (at 23446) by debbugs.gnu.org; 5 May 2016 07:07:41 +0000 Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:38647 helo=debbugs.gnu.org) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1ayDNt-000774-Es for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Thu, 05 May 2016 03:07:41 -0400 Received: from mail-out.m-online.net ([212.18.0.9]:58570) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1ayDNs-00076w-0F for 23446@debbugs.gnu.org; Thu, 05 May 2016 03:07:40 -0400 Received: from frontend01.mail.m-online.net (unknown [192.168.8.182]) by mail-out.m-online.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3r0mFQ5Bclz3hpY6; Thu, 5 May 2016 09:07:37 +0200 (CEST) Received: from localhost (dynscan1.mnet-online.de [192.168.6.68]) by mail.m-online.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3r0mFP5dNFzvjMk; Thu, 5 May 2016 09:07:37 +0200 (CEST) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at mnet-online.de Received: from mail.mnet-online.de ([192.168.8.182]) by localhost (dynscan1.mail.m-online.net [192.168.6.68]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id aIPPwJClDGnG; Thu, 5 May 2016 09:07:36 +0200 (CEST) X-Auth-Info: 86T/ehZMVe6KFOOMfuDUtT7Ok94h7CiADPulitLcJMxyzJqInhxXwpjDP/cHnyWt Received: from linux.local (ppp-88-217-19-201.dynamic.mnet-online.de [88.217.19.201]) by mail.mnet-online.de (Postfix) with ESMTPA; Thu, 5 May 2016 09:07:36 +0200 (CEST) Received: by linux.local (Postfix, from userid 501) id 4B7E11E538B; Thu, 5 May 2016 09:07:34 +0200 (CEST) From: Andreas Schwab References: <87h9eekmit.fsf@russet.org.uk> <87zis5eq4n.fsf@russet.org.uk> <6dec109f-8a2d-27ff-f9ae-f1db0b242059@cornell.edu> <87pot134ev.fsf@russet.org.uk> X-Yow: Do I have a lifestyle yet? Date: Thu, 05 May 2016 09:07:34 +0200 In-Reply-To: <87pot134ev.fsf@russet.org.uk> (Phillip Lord's message of "Wed, 04 May 2016 22:21:44 +0100") Message-ID: User-Agent: Gnus/5.13 (Gnus v5.13) Emacs/25.0.93 (gnu/linux) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain X-Spam-Score: -0.7 (/) X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18 Precedence: list List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Sender: "Debbugs-submit" X-Spam-Score: -0.7 (/) Phillip Lord writes: > No, I mean build from a clean source tree. I rarely use make bootstrap > for this because you have to run configure first. make bootstrap-clean doesn't have that problem. Andreas. -- Andreas Schwab, schwab@linux-m68k.org GPG Key fingerprint = 58CA 54C7 6D53 942B 1756 01D3 44D5 214B 8276 4ED5 "And now for something completely different."