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25.0.93; cursor-sensor-inhibit

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From: phillip.lord <at> russet.org.uk (Phillip Lord)
To: bug-gnu-emacs <at> gnu.org
Subject: 25.0.93; cursor-sensor-inhibit
Date: Wed, 04 May 2016 13:58:34 +0100

I am getting the following error from a freshly bootstrapped emacs
launching with emacs -q

Debugger entered--Lisp error: (void-variable cursor-sensor-inhibit)
  isearch-update()
  isearch-mode(t nil nil nil)
  isearch-forward(nil 1)
  funcall-interactively(isearch-forward nil 1)
  call-interactively(isearch-forward nil nil)
  command-execute(isearch-forward)


Error occurs by opening then Ctrl-s in the *scratch* buffer. It seems
related to #20532, but it's occuring on Emacs-25 head, so I've put a new
report in. Once the error has occured, I cannot exit i-search, so Emacs
is unrecoverable.

I *think* it may be something amiss with loaddefs -- I only found the
bug because I have a newly installed built emacs which has been built
from bootstrap.




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 of 2016-05-03 built on jangai
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Message #8 received at 23446 <at> debbugs.gnu.org (full text, mbox):

From: Ken Brown <kbrown <at> cornell.edu>
To: Phillip Lord <phillip.lord <at> russet.org.uk>, 23446 <at> debbugs.gnu.org
Subject: Re: bug#23446: 25.0.93; cursor-sensor-inhibit
Date: Wed, 4 May 2016 09:45:41 -0400

On 5/4/2016 8:58 AM, Phillip Lord wrote:
> I am getting the following error from a freshly bootstrapped emacs
> launching with emacs -q
>
> Debugger entered--Lisp error: (void-variable cursor-sensor-inhibit)

> I *think* it may be something amiss with loaddefs

Try 'make -C lisp autoloads'.

Ken

Message #11 received at 23446 <at> debbugs.gnu.org (full text, mbox):

From: phillip.lord <at> russet.org.uk (Phillip Lord)
To: 23446 <at> debbugs.gnu.org
Cc: kbrown <at> cornell.edu
Subject: Re: bug#23446: 25.0.93; cursor-sensor-inhibit
Date: Wed, 04 May 2016 17:37:12 +0100

Ken Brown <kbrown <at> cornell.edu> writes:

> On 5/4/2016 8:58 AM, Phillip Lord wrote:
>> I am getting the following error from a freshly bootstrapped emacs
>> launching with emacs -q
>>
>> Debugger entered--Lisp error: (void-variable cursor-sensor-inhibit)
>
>> I *think* it may be something amiss with loaddefs
>
> Try 'make -C lisp autoloads'.


I think you are on the right track.

I often build out-of-source, where you can clean by just deleting
everything. But, this does not clean either loaddefs.el or the elc
files. And, I notice, that cursor-sensor-inhibit has had an autoload
cookie added recently. So, it maybe that my build was somewhat
inconsistent.

I'll leave this bug report open for a couple of days in case anyone else
finds the problem. If not, I'll close.

Phil

Message #16 received at 23446 <at> debbugs.gnu.org (full text, mbox):

From: Ken Brown <kbrown <at> cornell.edu>
To: Phillip Lord <phillip.lord <at> russet.org.uk>, 23446 <at> debbugs.gnu.org
Subject: Re: bug#23446: 25.0.93; cursor-sensor-inhibit
Date: Wed, 4 May 2016 14:14:00 -0400

On 5/4/2016 12:37 PM, Phillip Lord wrote:
> Ken Brown <kbrown <at> cornell.edu> writes:
>
>> On 5/4/2016 8:58 AM, Phillip Lord wrote:
>>> I am getting the following error from a freshly bootstrapped emacs
>>> launching with emacs -q
>>>
>>> Debugger entered--Lisp error: (void-variable cursor-sensor-inhibit)
>>
>>> I *think* it may be something amiss with loaddefs
>>
>> Try 'make -C lisp autoloads'.
>
>
> I think you are on the right track.
>
> I often build out-of-source, where you can clean by just deleting
> everything. But, this does not clean either loaddefs.el or the elc
> files.

'make bootstrap' *does* remove loaddefs.el and the elc files, even in an 
out-of-source build.

When you referred to a freshly bootstrapped emacs, did you mean that you 
ran 'make bootstrap'?

Ken

Message #19 received at 23446 <at> debbugs.gnu.org (full text, mbox):

From: Phillip Lord <phillip.lord <at> russet.org.uk>
To: Ken Brown <kbrown <at> cornell.edu>
Cc: 23446 <at> debbugs.gnu.org
Subject: Re: bug#23446: 25.0.93; cursor-sensor-inhibit
Date: Wed, 04 May 2016 22:21:44 +0100

Ken Brown <kbrown <at> cornell.edu> writes:

> On 5/4/2016 12:37 PM, Phillip Lord wrote:
>> Ken Brown <kbrown <at> cornell.edu> writes:
>>
>>> On 5/4/2016 8:58 AM, Phillip Lord wrote:
>>>> I am getting the following error from a freshly bootstrapped emacs
>>>> launching with emacs -q
>>>>
>>>> Debugger entered--Lisp error: (void-variable cursor-sensor-inhibit)
>>>
>>>> I *think* it may be something amiss with loaddefs
>>>
>>> Try 'make -C lisp autoloads'.
>>
>>
>> I think you are on the right track.
>>
>> I often build out-of-source, where you can clean by just deleting
>> everything. But, this does not clean either loaddefs.el or the elc
>> files.
>
> 'make bootstrap' *does* remove loaddefs.el and the elc files, even in an
> out-of-source build.
>
> When you referred to a freshly bootstrapped emacs, did you mean that
> you ran 'make bootstrap'?

No, I mean build from a clean source tree. I rarely use make bootstrap
for this because you have to run configure first. Normally I clean with
git clean, or just delete the directory for out-of-source.

So, this looks like up a failure during updating rather than anything
else. Slightly surprised if it's only me, but there we have it.

Phil

Message #22 received at 23446 <at> debbugs.gnu.org (full text, mbox):

From: Ken Brown <kbrown <at> cornell.edu>
To: Phillip Lord <phillip.lord <at> russet.org.uk>
Cc: 23446 <at> debbugs.gnu.org
Subject: Re: bug#23446: 25.0.93; cursor-sensor-inhibit
Date: Wed, 4 May 2016 18:00:06 -0400

On 5/4/2016 5:21 PM, Phillip Lord wrote:
> Ken Brown <kbrown <at> cornell.edu> writes:
>
>> On 5/4/2016 12:37 PM, Phillip Lord wrote:
>>> Ken Brown <kbrown <at> cornell.edu> writes:
>>>
>>>> On 5/4/2016 8:58 AM, Phillip Lord wrote:
>>>>> I am getting the following error from a freshly bootstrapped emacs
>>>>> launching with emacs -q
>>>>>
>>>>> Debugger entered--Lisp error: (void-variable cursor-sensor-inhibit)
>>>>
>>>>> I *think* it may be something amiss with loaddefs
>>>>
>>>> Try 'make -C lisp autoloads'.
>>>
>>>
>>> I think you are on the right track.
>>>
>>> I often build out-of-source, where you can clean by just deleting
>>> everything. But, this does not clean either loaddefs.el or the elc
>>> files.
>>
>> 'make bootstrap' *does* remove loaddefs.el and the elc files, even in an
>> out-of-source build.
>>
>> When you referred to a freshly bootstrapped emacs, did you mean that
>> you ran 'make bootstrap'?
>
> No, I mean build from a clean source tree. I rarely use make bootstrap
> for this because you have to run configure first. Normally I clean with
> git clean, or just delete the directory for out-of-source.
>
> So, this looks like up a failure during updating rather than anything
> else.

No, what happened is that the autoloads files got out of date and needed 
to be regenerated by 'make -C lisp autoloads', as I said in my first 
reply.  This happens from time to time and is documented in 
INSTALL.REPO.  It works perfectly well in an out-of-source build.  If 
you delete your build directory, however, then you've thrown away your 
Makefile, and it's too late.

The only reason you aren't bitten by this more often is that Glenn 
periodically updates the autoloads.  See, for example, his commit 3cade20.

Ken

Message #25 received at 23446 <at> debbugs.gnu.org (full text, mbox):

From: Glenn Morris <rgm <at> gnu.org>
To: Phillip Lord <phillip.lord <at> russet.org.uk>
Cc: 23446 <at> debbugs.gnu.org, Ken Brown <kbrown <at> cornell.edu>
Subject: Re: bug#23446: 25.0.93; cursor-sensor-inhibit
Date: Wed, 04 May 2016 18:10:33 -0400

Phillip Lord wrote:

>> When you referred to a freshly bootstrapped emacs, did you mean that
>> you ran 'make bootstrap'?
>
> No, I mean build from a clean source tree. I rarely use make bootstrap
> for this because you have to run configure first. Normally I clean with
> git clean, or just delete the directory for out-of-source.

Please don't say you "bootstrapped" unless you really did "make bootstrap".
Otherwise it gets confusing. :)
In particular, deleting the build directory for an out-of-tree build
is not at all the same thing (it only removes the C stuff, not any of
the lisp stuff).

Message #28 received at 23446 <at> debbugs.gnu.org (full text, mbox):

From: Phillip Lord <phillip.lord <at> russet.org.uk>
To: Ken Brown <kbrown <at> cornell.edu>
Cc: 23446 <at> debbugs.gnu.org
Subject: Re: bug#23446: 25.0.93; cursor-sensor-inhibit
Date: Wed, 04 May 2016 23:50:22 +0100

Ken Brown <kbrown <at> cornell.edu> writes:

> On 5/4/2016 5:21 PM, Phillip Lord wrote:
>> Ken Brown <kbrown <at> cornell.edu> writes:
>>>>> On 5/4/2016 8:58 AM, Phillip Lord wrote:
>> So, this looks like up a failure during updating rather than anything
>> else.
>
> No, what happened is that the autoloads files got out of date and needed to be
> regenerated by 'make -C lisp autoloads', as I said in my first reply.  This
> happens from time to time and is documented in INSTALL.REPO.  It works
> perfectly well in an out-of-source build.  If you delete your build directory,
> however, then you've thrown away your Makefile, and it's too late.
>
> The only reason you aren't bitten by this more often is that Glenn
> periodically updates the autoloads.  See, for example, his commit 3cade20.

Yes, I checked the autoload commits and cursor-sensor-inhibit has been
added to ldefs-boot.el in that commit. I couldn't work out why that
would cause this form of error though (it should prevent it).

The actual cause is b755d988b498b19bd which added the autoload cookie,
and 16e5e8e4ea4a which removed the a (setq cursor-sensor-inhibit nil)
form. So, yes, autoloads out of date, and me being confused about my
build state.

Will close.

Phil

Message #31 received at 23446 <at> debbugs.gnu.org (full text, mbox):

From: Phillip Lord <phillip.lord <at> russet.org.uk>
To: Glenn Morris <rgm <at> gnu.org>
Cc: 23446 <at> debbugs.gnu.org, Ken Brown <kbrown <at> cornell.edu>
Subject: Re: bug#23446: 25.0.93; cursor-sensor-inhibit
Date: Wed, 04 May 2016 23:51:25 +0100

Glenn Morris <rgm <at> gnu.org> writes:

> Phillip Lord wrote:
>
>>> When you referred to a freshly bootstrapped emacs, did you mean that
>>> you ran 'make bootstrap'?
>>
>> No, I mean build from a clean source tree. I rarely use make bootstrap
>> for this because you have to run configure first. Normally I clean with
>> git clean, or just delete the directory for out-of-source.
>
> Please don't say you "bootstrapped" unless you really did "make bootstrap".
> Otherwise it gets confusing. :)

Just so.

> In particular, deleting the build directory for an out-of-tree build
> is not at all the same thing (it only removes the C stuff, not any of
> the lisp stuff).

Yes. Might go back to in-tree builds.

Phil

Message #36 received at 23446 <at> debbugs.gnu.org (full text, mbox):

From: Andreas Schwab <schwab <at> linux-m68k.org>
To: Phillip Lord <phillip.lord <at> russet.org.uk>
Cc: 23446 <at> debbugs.gnu.org, Ken Brown <kbrown <at> cornell.edu>
Subject: Re: bug#23446: 25.0.93; cursor-sensor-inhibit
Date: Thu, 05 May 2016 09:07:34 +0200

Phillip Lord <phillip.lord <at> russet.org.uk> writes:

> No, I mean build from a clean source tree. I rarely use make bootstrap
> for this because you have to run configure first.

make bootstrap-clean doesn't have that problem.

Andreas.

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