From debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Mon May 02 13:54:04 2016 Received: (at submit) by debbugs.gnu.org; 2 May 2016 17:54:04 +0000 Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:34140 helo=debbugs.gnu.org) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1axI2l-00027i-Sk for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Mon, 02 May 2016 13:54:04 -0400 Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([208.118.235.92]:45227) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1axI2k-00027D-6e for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Mon, 02 May 2016 13:54:02 -0400 Received: from Debian-exim by eggs.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1axI2V-00042G-MY for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Mon, 02 May 2016 13:53:53 -0400 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.3.2 (2011-06-06) on eggs.gnu.org X-Spam-Level: ** X-Spam-Status: No, score=2.8 required=5.0 tests=BAYES_50,XPRIO autolearn=disabled version=3.3.2 Received: from lists.gnu.org ([2001:4830:134:3::11]:46694) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1axI2V-00041U-J5 for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Mon, 02 May 2016 13:53:47 -0400 Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([2001:4830:134:3::10]:36053) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1axI2J-00049E-Qc for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Mon, 02 May 2016 13:53:41 -0400 Received: from Debian-exim by eggs.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1axI26-0003qs-0y for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Mon, 02 May 2016 13:53:28 -0400 Received: from aserp1040.oracle.com ([141.146.126.69]:26337) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1axI25-0003Xf-Q9 for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Mon, 02 May 2016 13:53:21 -0400 Received: from aserv0022.oracle.com (aserv0022.oracle.com [141.146.126.234]) by aserp1040.oracle.com (Sentrion-MTA-4.3.2/Sentrion-MTA-4.3.2) with ESMTP id u42HqqYM021473 (version=TLSv1 cipher=DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA bits=256 verify=OK) for ; Mon, 2 May 2016 17:52:53 GMT Received: from aserv0122.oracle.com (aserv0122.oracle.com [141.146.126.236]) by aserv0022.oracle.com (8.13.8/8.13.8) with ESMTP id u42Hqq1g031411 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA bits=256 verify=OK) for ; Mon, 2 May 2016 17:52:52 GMT Received: from abhmp0010.oracle.com (abhmp0010.oracle.com [141.146.116.16]) by aserv0122.oracle.com (8.13.8/8.13.8) with ESMTP id u42HqnEw009015 for ; Mon, 2 May 2016 17:52:51 GMT MIME-Version: 1.0 Message-ID: Date: Mon, 2 May 2016 10:52:48 -0700 (PDT) From: Drew Adams To: bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org Subject: 25.0.90; `A' binding in Dired - why change to a different command? X-Priority: 3 X-Mailer: Oracle Beehive Extensions for Outlook 2.0.1.9 (901082) [OL 12.0.6744.5000 (x86)] Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-Source-IP: aserv0022.oracle.com [141.146.126.234] X-detected-operating-system: by eggs.gnu.org: GNU/Linux 2.4.x-2.6.x [generic] X-detected-operating-system: by eggs.gnu.org: GNU/Linux 2.6.x X-Received-From: 2001:4830:134:3::11 X-Spam-Score: -2.0 (--) X-Debbugs-Envelope-To: submit X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18 Precedence: list List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Sender: "Debbugs-submit" X-Spam-Score: -4.0 (----) Why was key `A' bound to a different command, with different behavior? Why not just add the new command, with no key binding? If people want to bind it to a key, you will find that out soon enough. And if they want to replace the `A' binding you will find that out also. In GNU Emacs 25.0.90.4 (i686-w64-mingw32) of 2016-03-20 Windowing system distributor `Microsoft Corp.', version 6.1.7601 Configured using: `configure --host=3Di686-w64-mingw32 --without-dbus --without-compress-install CFLAGS=3D-static' From debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Mon May 02 14:22:19 2016 Received: (at 23428) by debbugs.gnu.org; 2 May 2016 18:22:19 +0000 Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:34159 helo=debbugs.gnu.org) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1axIU6-0002qA-Tj for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Mon, 02 May 2016 14:22:19 -0400 Received: from mail-oi0-f52.google.com ([209.85.218.52]:36379) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1axIU5-0002px-DO for 23428@debbugs.gnu.org; Mon, 02 May 2016 14:22:17 -0400 Received: by mail-oi0-f52.google.com with SMTP id x201so201126944oif.3 for <23428@debbugs.gnu.org>; Mon, 02 May 2016 11:22:17 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20120113; h=mime-version:from:date:message-id:subject:to; bh=2H4hYiQZGZXzlmrWFXJ6kElQRjcZXAB1k5yIZsgxt7I=; b=veubcDUpSn8rWqIG4fxBZbC4CFMuSXhQa1CDVRN7j3waSbgdH2gdFLpmZrrMoMqDBb B+JDA0d4cdfrOfq0koXZD+9OIa28YzKu9rYS5lly2VMQzlUcWXjbNFgMAmkeTL/SGTOv idEipycB4wEZpsvU5gi9dNUBS3b0CvjF5SUIdTOyhR9y1VNqiCfBPVYV41+sTUUHV25k xBj8y8g18lyfYeurcR9OkIWQLUuGx+0pZDrPWRLs1fdIVPf+ZHZyZz4s5iY78V5ObUlG 4lRlXDfTfMdVslYWRhnLLjL6sYb9r3HUBXjYY7eIksV/JbJSYVUStL0kXzYgyXgd5KrL 7KsQ== X-Google-DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=1e100.net; s=20130820; h=x-gm-message-state:mime-version:from:date:message-id:subject:to; bh=2H4hYiQZGZXzlmrWFXJ6kElQRjcZXAB1k5yIZsgxt7I=; b=R742x2Vi7l5A7FnUtvNrV+lvQkcuXd/9BGj9QJ9zrhg/r4zInRDIHW64wVwbQYTAhP ttvRH9GsbFNJEQ+sfTDe+Vs9WDpKQGly5NBu31laSXCl4PF8TbYve9WFhMqjlwxW6usn 1BmQZc3In9D3ZqSGBJoPnk2/o9itEDyYnliDZsP41UVRD1SJ0XjUVtGAtaeqCtLkoDgy dMAL+v95Po97WL2pVLTMTt/tWnOKvEuBEmcuVvZTVYbX6P+ZdZsuGrCrlVHJKkxQs+IY lylHa3i40mTPHXbGhWLrP4u1BIOxqrFNAEEJWZzgiFtDOr+JAo3vdrIpQva1FVwSw6A2 eIIQ== X-Gm-Message-State: AOPr4FXHbKaO6HFEvkCQG2TSccEmo0QMjerDcjLcCXk3Zg+U0S4KiaXsJ17qF2/+eWX1+SznialWwJVNpQZ3FA== X-Received: by 10.202.179.8 with SMTP id c8mr15864533oif.50.1462213331728; Mon, 02 May 2016 11:22:11 -0700 (PDT) MIME-Version: 1.0 From: Kaushal Modi Date: Mon, 02 May 2016 18:22:01 +0000 Message-ID: Subject: 25.0.90; `A' binding in Dired - why change to a different command? To: 23428@debbugs.gnu.org, Drew Adams Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=001a113ce3c6393fce0531e0124f X-Spam-Score: -0.7 (/) X-Debbugs-Envelope-To: 23428 X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18 Precedence: list List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Sender: "Debbugs-submit" X-Spam-Score: -0.7 (/) --001a113ce3c6393fce0531e0124f Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Hi Drew, Here is the commit that made this changed to the `A' and `Q' bindings. The NEWS file also notes this and provides an explanation for doing so: http://git.savannah.gnu.org/cgit/emacs.git/tree/etc/NEWS?id=bf21c84f0d3dab33b4836098b789eaddf9492b2a#n1276 *** New user interface for the 'A' and 'Q' commands. These keys, now bound to 'dired-do-find-regexp' and 'dired-do-find-regexp-and-replace', work similarly to 'xref-find-apropos' and 'xref-query-replace-in-results': they present the matches in the '*xref*' buffer and let you move through the matches. No need to use 'tags-loop-continue' to resume the search or replace loop. The previous commands, 'dired-do-search' and 'dired-do-query-replace-regexp', are still available, but not bound to keys; rebind 'A' and 'Q' to invoke them if you want the old behavior back. We intend to obsolete the old commands in a future release. -- Kaushal Modi --001a113ce3c6393fce0531e0124f Content-Type: text/html; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
Hi Drew,

Here is the c= ommit that made this changed to the `A' and `Q' bindings.

The NEWS file also notes this and provides an explanation f= or doing so:

<= div>
*** New user interface for the 'A' and '= ;Q' commands.
These keys, now bound to 'dired-do-find-reg= exp' and
'dired-do-find-regexp-and-replace', work sim= ilarly to 'xref-find-apropos'
and 'xref-query-replace= -in-results': they present the matches
in the '*xref*'= ; buffer and let you move through the matches.=C2=A0 No need
to u= se 'tags-loop-continue' to resume the search or replace loop.=C2=A0= The
previous commands, 'dired-do-search' and
&= #39;dired-do-query-replace-regexp', are still available, but not bound = to
keys; rebind 'A' and 'Q' to invoke them if you= want the old behavior
back.=C2=A0 We intend to obsolete the old = commands in a future release.

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--001a113ce3c6393fce0531e0124f-- From debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Mon May 02 14:24:09 2016 Received: (at 23428) by debbugs.gnu.org; 2 May 2016 18:24:09 +0000 Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:34167 helo=debbugs.gnu.org) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1axIVt-0002tn-Fp for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Mon, 02 May 2016 14:24:09 -0400 Received: from mail-oi0-f52.google.com ([209.85.218.52]:34051) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1axIVs-0002tb-9Z for 23428@debbugs.gnu.org; Mon, 02 May 2016 14:24:08 -0400 Received: by mail-oi0-f52.google.com with SMTP id k142so201175564oib.1 for <23428@debbugs.gnu.org>; Mon, 02 May 2016 11:24:08 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20120113; h=mime-version:references:in-reply-to:from:date:message-id:subject:to; bh=iH5nKFAlRdDPtxVkfd23G5yMtjK0RsRlPdYqbXYxGdM=; b=TdIbzjFFp+LJx+0queFTU/QagfVJ948b64p1Ce7+RMDs+aSy9lobh0U7H/+lE5Qb8w sj8PQV4gv5eq1uD6QyyW3BG5gItS39BLYP6+WdF30PYGTORtdEcBbQtLrkr9x/dgl5t9 uWpokDrVAUR008MYwkHuF8scAWuG+aCySRVYrvh7IHwUPrdpsNL10ijIIn8n8uy89NoI Welmwawu1emDDAZvQj7eyvfqKCXTpvg32DH70GIM2JD0tZYC1y3h95APdtlRdYQCyW9/ w6f4vXSGSSZRVkBKeqXPlVI6hoRpMKjhK88FLxO0e7IfYsXB5GpHf+H+/nE621xhqm2K Qrkw== X-Google-DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=1e100.net; s=20130820; h=x-gm-message-state:mime-version:references:in-reply-to:from:date :message-id:subject:to; bh=iH5nKFAlRdDPtxVkfd23G5yMtjK0RsRlPdYqbXYxGdM=; b=AHpEm6I7eZv0Mo0aqUM2Do4K8K3XiH+AbYjZmZ5s3C/exp9W8A0jJ+mthi7gmf6qm8 pZlUT0tmZqiEWDF02smJ4F1PBhxGHMTX2Im1NkMx39B+TV6LY/vyH/59PFTInU2DseuR tmqQGhyPl/Vxks36/DvFqpfnC1w/yMNodjhX0mbYwtW4omcsG3gdfJqvxihI4B+3IKiE Du+qt4G+vStMVwpHmSs/fGq+HauYZ9x5hAkNhAmD8raeZdSHiNgs5cNp9oKlOZCWQLX6 a83XZfHYIQBGxWFWyTL4xN3n7R9HEbtNhs28PYXQc+BTQxCtOsKKsmtPnjuGm0iX33i1 2XRA== X-Gm-Message-State: AOPr4FVUhEzbmq6VhR9MAQXIS9+GQ6h0m9s+woBSe9l28TbkPj8wkEOLXxZAhnqVABoXfdZc7jhgAQmiFJz5Iw== X-Received: by 10.202.225.84 with SMTP id y81mr15714714oig.125.1462213442875; Mon, 02 May 2016 11:24:02 -0700 (PDT) MIME-Version: 1.0 References: In-Reply-To: From: Kaushal Modi Date: Mon, 02 May 2016 18:23:53 +0000 Message-ID: Subject: Re: 25.0.90; `A' binding in Dired - why change to a different command? To: 23428@debbugs.gnu.org, Drew Adams Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=001a113d4e56d936d90531e0181b X-Spam-Score: -0.7 (/) X-Debbugs-Envelope-To: 23428 X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18 Precedence: list List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Sender: "Debbugs-submit" X-Spam-Score: -0.7 (/) --001a113d4e56d936d90531e0181b Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 > > Here is the commit that made this changed to the `A' and `Q' bindings. > http://git.savannah.gnu.org/cgit/emacs.git/commit/?h=emacs-25&id=36b0729ce765c132e04586be0e2deca405b4c313 (forgot to paste the link earlier) -- -- Kaushal Modi --001a113d4e56d936d90531e0181b Content-Type: text/html; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
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--001a113d4e56d936d90531e0181b-- From debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Mon May 02 14:27:33 2016 Received: (at 23428) by debbugs.gnu.org; 2 May 2016 18:27:33 +0000 Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:34175 helo=debbugs.gnu.org) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1axIZB-0002zB-5V for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Mon, 02 May 2016 14:27:33 -0400 Received: from userp1040.oracle.com ([156.151.31.81]:36238) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1axIZ9-0002yy-QU for 23428@debbugs.gnu.org; Mon, 02 May 2016 14:27:32 -0400 Received: from aserv0021.oracle.com (aserv0021.oracle.com [141.146.126.233]) by userp1040.oracle.com (Sentrion-MTA-4.3.2/Sentrion-MTA-4.3.2) with ESMTP id u42IRPJc023269 (version=TLSv1 cipher=DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA bits=256 verify=OK); Mon, 2 May 2016 18:27:25 GMT Received: from userv0121.oracle.com (userv0121.oracle.com [156.151.31.72]) by aserv0021.oracle.com (8.13.8/8.13.8) with ESMTP id u42IRO5O019630 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA bits=256 verify=OK); Mon, 2 May 2016 18:27:24 GMT Received: from abhmp0010.oracle.com (abhmp0010.oracle.com [141.146.116.16]) by userv0121.oracle.com (8.13.8/8.13.8) with ESMTP id u42IRMIh030884; Mon, 2 May 2016 18:27:24 GMT MIME-Version: 1.0 Message-ID: <9d313159-223b-45a8-ab37-91eb3d83880f@default> Date: Mon, 2 May 2016 11:27:21 -0700 (PDT) From: Drew Adams To: Kaushal Modi , 23428@debbugs.gnu.org Subject: RE: 25.0.90; `A' binding in Dired - why change to a different command? References: In-Reply-To: X-Priority: 3 X-Mailer: Oracle Beehive Extensions for Outlook 2.0.1.9 (901082) [OL 12.0.6744.5000 (x86)] Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-Source-IP: aserv0021.oracle.com [141.146.126.233] X-Spam-Score: -3.3 (---) X-Debbugs-Envelope-To: 23428 X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18 Precedence: list List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Sender: "Debbugs-submit" X-Spam-Score: -3.3 (---) > Here is the commit that made this changed to the `A' and `Q' bindings. > The NEWS file also notes this and provides an explanation for doing so: Yes, but why? Why is this a good thing, at the present time? From debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Mon May 02 14:29:35 2016 Received: (at 23428) by debbugs.gnu.org; 2 May 2016 18:29:35 +0000 Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:34179 helo=debbugs.gnu.org) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1axIb9-00032N-HE for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Mon, 02 May 2016 14:29:35 -0400 Received: from mail-oi0-f52.google.com ([209.85.218.52]:36598) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1axIb7-00032B-I7 for 23428@debbugs.gnu.org; Mon, 02 May 2016 14:29:33 -0400 Received: by mail-oi0-f52.google.com with SMTP id x201so201406460oif.3 for <23428@debbugs.gnu.org>; Mon, 02 May 2016 11:29:33 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20120113; h=mime-version:references:in-reply-to:from:date:message-id:subject:to; bh=rezN/w6Oi3wTwwj1XlnRfvteLZkbVJyPIYmJNmBasUk=; b=dmj3bb6oUOP0X8ncIbOSZOXqWSyPSyqI4jHYemxKSpy+biPNY3N6N8bSXvGHirOE8R RZA6plmBPfM0LxadEZKs0AQHnVgnBULn/52pJUNNXD4PyfE/KUb9PEtFHQKqg6p0tKSj F9/coaoZxoRNqIxTrcnFqXNocrkKmB6V967mDMjPE6/tzQChO1bnAoU8iSeKl4v7zUlv 6hDU8CvCnu53PMqvkRa73vDd8R3Cqq1zE6EyPnB4e1LVUlRr0R2Pu0u3lrTC6HuXqvxr c5lOgYlgcIzLkPlR0rb1CFMq8gJBcO1KxXWZkMxnzblodklavTnPJttL+Q+Jw04/MRz2 Uhiw== X-Google-DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=1e100.net; s=20130820; h=x-gm-message-state:mime-version:references:in-reply-to:from:date :message-id:subject:to; bh=rezN/w6Oi3wTwwj1XlnRfvteLZkbVJyPIYmJNmBasUk=; b=IV1Au7RC5BRhGuCqSM1wQYQMscuJn4qnqvfj3mey83mlc90zq0XeAkpT6jln/R0JPx JmOsk1eeH74xYMZ1/X9LFRJzArbXmHYjlUpkA7B2W30cAMLrqD0HIGU6Txz4Jfz4T+mP 27JOoyyXWaTrdyeclJta3TlFdVmvpQsx8HRSNuX255QpCTlO4O58V5lmk1nNAMaU+L5b o2TIYUqIo5B1qHHsKj8L6NDXNofKgO82cFIMPP5P4zpKD9fqtjlTsdiCG9AFvM32azDt dVmP0CsNwzvpRbxjSSR6Dic3U124kUsglOZOjfp4Aj7kO11KTlOt0QcpgoHMG2iEd8Hz gsPw== X-Gm-Message-State: AOPr4FWUVb0AcJOd+JAZFMefp1Xtdj37ox9SCLpQd6OXCjtT6QbvCsimYSZDBH1+/giACdSGRpyM42srzhm+pQ== X-Received: by 10.157.7.225 with SMTP id 88mr15358119oto.185.1462213768155; Mon, 02 May 2016 11:29:28 -0700 (PDT) MIME-Version: 1.0 References: <9d313159-223b-45a8-ab37-91eb3d83880f@default> In-Reply-To: <9d313159-223b-45a8-ab37-91eb3d83880f@default> From: Kaushal Modi Date: Mon, 02 May 2016 18:29:18 +0000 Message-ID: Subject: Re: 25.0.90; `A' binding in Dired - why change to a different command? To: Drew Adams , 23428@debbugs.gnu.org, Dmitry Gutov Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=94eb2c04f99e3c9e100531e02c98 X-Spam-Score: -0.7 (/) X-Debbugs-Envelope-To: 23428 X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18 Precedence: list List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Sender: "Debbugs-submit" X-Spam-Score: -0.7 (/) --94eb2c04f99e3c9e100531e02c98 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Adding Dmitry (as I do not use those bindings in dired, and so cannot comment on how they improve the use). On Mon, May 2, 2016 at 2:27 PM Drew Adams wrote: > > Here is the commit that made this changed to the `A' and `Q' bindings. > > The NEWS file also notes this and provides an explanation for doing so: > > Yes, but why? Why is this a good thing, at the present time? > -- -- Kaushal Modi --94eb2c04f99e3c9e100531e02c98 Content-Type: text/html; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
Adding Dmitry (as I do not use those bindings in dired, an= d so cannot comment on how they improve the use).

On Mon, May 2, 2016 at 2:27 PM Drew Adams <drew.adams@oracle.com> wrote:<= br>
> Here is the commit that made t= his changed to the `A' and `Q' bindings.
> The NEWS file also notes this and provides an explanation for doing so= :

Yes, but why?=C2=A0 Why is this a good thing, at the present time?
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-- Kaushal Modi

--94eb2c04f99e3c9e100531e02c98-- From debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Mon May 02 14:33:46 2016 Received: (at 23428) by debbugs.gnu.org; 2 May 2016 18:33:46 +0000 Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:34183 helo=debbugs.gnu.org) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1axIfC-00039i-20 for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Mon, 02 May 2016 14:33:46 -0400 Received: from mail-wm0-f52.google.com ([74.125.82.52]:38405) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1axIfB-00039R-0m for 23428@debbugs.gnu.org; Mon, 02 May 2016 14:33:45 -0400 Received: by mail-wm0-f52.google.com with SMTP id g17so346849wme.1 for <23428@debbugs.gnu.org>; Mon, 02 May 2016 11:33:44 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20120113; h=sender:subject:to:references:from:message-id:date:user-agent :mime-version:in-reply-to:content-transfer-encoding; bh=aXBm5dD77hsDpFRIkAaj38NWyeJ5gCmgPXXMyQwFVHg=; b=ET48wYthsPB3vYc9PhrSKZb6VmRvWxPRdoUkzCaFwQD/eA+HiQXAjeoBHJ0rP/WQvu 8YTZL5Hyxsgmn9xUgDQ0Ag9ILy2ZoL2woPwsh6zYfs/RQAZjRuxGtrQyv71P8w+6zyZn Vi1q8dpRJ7I04twGOaExbwbIwaAlfILWnUpLRQ0yW0Od8RBpx/Ku23y28VpzQ3Y6F1Op IajIyez6OxUHvgPPgMlaMa7E0iSvaqKe7DaXmGLDZPR9Kpmbfvr03OcnPu0FYnFV5ZYX PI7kZu2dwlUQZSwOVcEX8xwSzbHXzcImr0v6H0GG9o0ew9hjL3mDlrKXJ5RyaLGcYqrB E0Zw== X-Google-DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=1e100.net; s=20130820; h=x-gm-message-state:sender:subject:to:references:from:message-id :date:user-agent:mime-version:in-reply-to:content-transfer-encoding; bh=aXBm5dD77hsDpFRIkAaj38NWyeJ5gCmgPXXMyQwFVHg=; b=NYJkBVXc6ry/87UHxOVwIPkfm6dNPCjasYZnuzVgbySJDx0I0vYfnTYpco559TXZu0 2gcfOvvul+tLhMbzXWrK2xZixt7K1vXkHcvkv7Kpa0oUvQiV8EVgQ14EleN90KJeELSS LPAr791fTf5ssjpjk8JalFuz9ID/Qftm8yfmig8EQO6P19hg/Fci8ACWeBr08i26du0D 74lvJMBJj+07XgjV28cR7qHQW7BRk6oGLUvwUhtndOAij5ttDjuzdWCxsjMvE+0iuPba ZLoNJiuoQYeDp+QIeKjSbqRPsYHxpr7nDlqQ4GKPi4AR2GjzLze6Dh5RGeFr9Zl7LssS Uefg== X-Gm-Message-State: AOPr4FUM6qPGmKkAyEB052XS2bAIN2tOZcaLW7sQuXF4eSUmeHy0VU56jLDdSbOaBjQ3Ww== X-Received: by 10.28.135.200 with SMTP id j191mr20892403wmd.54.1462214019473; Mon, 02 May 2016 11:33:39 -0700 (PDT) Received: from [192.168.1.2] ([185.105.175.24]) by smtp.googlemail.com with ESMTPSA id kz1sm31723913wjc.46.2016.05.02.11.33.37 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=OTHER); Mon, 02 May 2016 11:33:38 -0700 (PDT) Subject: Re: 25.0.90; `A' binding in Dired - why change to a different command? To: Kaushal Modi , Drew Adams , 23428@debbugs.gnu.org References: <9d313159-223b-45a8-ab37-91eb3d83880f@default> From: Dmitry Gutov Message-ID: Date: Mon, 2 May 2016 21:33:36 +0300 User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; Linux x86_64; rv:45.0) Gecko/20100101 Thunderbird/45.1 MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Spam-Score: -0.5 (/) X-Debbugs-Envelope-To: 23428 X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18 Precedence: list List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Sender: "Debbugs-submit" X-Spam-Score: -0.5 (/) On 05/02/2016 09:29 PM, Kaushal Modi wrote: > Adding Dmitry (as I do not use those bindings in dired, and so cannot > comment on how they improve the use). I believe the NEWS entry is self-evident. If not, look for the related discussions in the emacs-devel archives. From debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Mon May 02 15:24:18 2016 Received: (at 23428) by debbugs.gnu.org; 2 May 2016 19:24:18 +0000 Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:34196 helo=debbugs.gnu.org) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1axJS6-0004KW-Df for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Mon, 02 May 2016 15:24:18 -0400 Received: from aserp1040.oracle.com ([141.146.126.69]:50191) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1axJS4-0004KJ-Gf for 23428@debbugs.gnu.org; Mon, 02 May 2016 15:24:16 -0400 Received: from userv0022.oracle.com (userv0022.oracle.com [156.151.31.74]) by aserp1040.oracle.com (Sentrion-MTA-4.3.2/Sentrion-MTA-4.3.2) with ESMTP id u42JO9S3014443 (version=TLSv1.2 cipher=ECDHE-RSA-AES256-GCM-SHA384 bits=256 verify=OK); Mon, 2 May 2016 19:24:10 GMT Received: from aserv0121.oracle.com (aserv0121.oracle.com [141.146.126.235]) by userv0022.oracle.com (8.14.4/8.13.8) with ESMTP id u42JO76H024440 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA bits=256 verify=OK); Mon, 2 May 2016 19:24:07 GMT Received: from abhmp0010.oracle.com (abhmp0010.oracle.com [141.146.116.16]) by aserv0121.oracle.com (8.13.8/8.13.8) with ESMTP id u42JO6J6027322; Mon, 2 May 2016 19:24:06 GMT MIME-Version: 1.0 Message-ID: Date: Mon, 2 May 2016 12:24:04 -0700 (PDT) From: Drew Adams To: Dmitry Gutov , Kaushal Modi , 23428@debbugs.gnu.org Subject: RE: 25.0.90; `A' binding in Dired - why change to a different command? References: <9d313159-223b-45a8-ab37-91eb3d83880f@default> In-Reply-To: X-Priority: 3 X-Mailer: Oracle Beehive Extensions for Outlook 2.0.1.9 (901082) [OL 12.0.6744.5000 (x86)] Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-Source-IP: userv0022.oracle.com [156.151.31.74] X-Spam-Score: -3.3 (---) X-Debbugs-Envelope-To: 23428 X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18 Precedence: list List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Sender: "Debbugs-submit" X-Spam-Score: -3.3 (---) > I believe the NEWS entry is self-evident. If not, look for the related > discussions in the emacs-devel archives. I see no compelling reason given for why this key needs to be repurposed for this new feature. What's the hurry? From debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Mon May 02 15:39:45 2016 Received: (at 23428) by debbugs.gnu.org; 2 May 2016 19:39:45 +0000 Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:34203 helo=debbugs.gnu.org) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1axJh3-0004hu-2i for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Mon, 02 May 2016 15:39:45 -0400 Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([208.118.235.92]:53499) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1axJh1-0004hh-KT for 23428@debbugs.gnu.org; Mon, 02 May 2016 15:39:43 -0400 Received: from Debian-exim by eggs.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1axJgm-00054V-Tt for 23428@debbugs.gnu.org; Mon, 02 May 2016 15:39:35 -0400 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.3.2 (2011-06-06) on eggs.gnu.org X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-1.0 required=5.0 tests=BAYES_20,RP_MATCHES_RCVD autolearn=disabled version=3.3.2 Received: from fencepost.gnu.org ([2001:4830:134:3::e]:36175) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1axJgm-00053n-QE; Mon, 02 May 2016 15:39:28 -0400 Received: from 84.94.185.246.cable.012.net.il ([84.94.185.246]:3491 helo=home-c4e4a596f7) by fencepost.gnu.org with esmtpsa (TLS1.2:RSA_AES_128_CBC_SHA1:128) (Exim 4.82) (envelope-from ) id 1axJgf-0005RJ-E6; Mon, 02 May 2016 15:39:21 -0400 Date: Mon, 02 May 2016 22:39:24 +0300 Message-Id: <83r3dkl05v.fsf@gnu.org> From: Eli Zaretskii To: Drew Adams In-reply-to: (message from Drew Adams on Mon, 2 May 2016 12:24:04 -0700 (PDT)) Subject: Re: bug#23428: 25.0.90; `A' binding in Dired - why change to a different command? References: <9d313159-223b-45a8-ab37-91eb3d83880f@default> X-detected-operating-system: by eggs.gnu.org: GNU/Linux 2.2.x-3.x [generic] X-Received-From: 2001:4830:134:3::e X-Spam-Score: -6.0 (------) X-Debbugs-Envelope-To: 23428 Cc: kaushal.modi@gmail.com, 23428@debbugs.gnu.org, dgutov@yandex.ru X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18 Precedence: list List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Reply-To: Eli Zaretskii Errors-To: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Sender: "Debbugs-submit" X-Spam-Score: -6.0 (------) > Date: Mon, 2 May 2016 12:24:04 -0700 (PDT) > From: Drew Adams > > > I believe the NEWS entry is self-evident. If not, look for the related > > discussions in the emacs-devel archives. > > I see no compelling reason given for why this key needs to > be repurposed for this new feature. What's the hurry? Because we want to stop using the etags routines. Once again, please read the discussions, the reasons are all there. 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