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master branch: `message' wrongly corrupts ' to curly quote.

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Message #101 received at 23425 <at> debbugs.gnu.org (full text, mbox):

From: Alan Mackenzie <acm <at> muc.de>
To: John Wiegley <jwiegley <at> gmail.com>
Cc: Eli Zaretskii <eliz <at> gnu.org>, eggert <at> cs.ucla.edu, 23425 <at> debbugs.gnu.org
Subject: Re: bug#23425: master branch: `message' wrongly corrupts ' to curly
 quote.
Date: Thu, 5 May 2016 08:06:06 +0000

Hello, John.

On Wed, May 04, 2016 at 11:46:58AM -0700, John Wiegley wrote:

> Hi guys,

> I appreciate the passion on this issue; I had a feeling this would come up,
> and I think the reaction is going to be far more widespread than some expect.

> As maintainer, I'll go on record by saying that I very much dislike the new
> curly quotes logic. After the reactions I've read here, I'm convinced again
> that a customization option needs to exist in 25.1, so we can easily recommend
> it to people who react as Alan has done.

:-)

[ .... ]

> At this point, I cannot undo this feature [translation of single quotes
> in help messages and message format strings], since that would
> destabilize 25.1.  However, we must have an option to conveniently
> disable it before the release happens. Of that I am now certain. Would
> someone be willing to craft a patch, please?

I committed 32f5bf0c29bbad6524f71079e4380b8156289551 to master last night
just before I read your post.  It adds the value `leave' (as in "leave
alone and don't touch") to the set valid in `text-quoting-style'.  This
might be what you're looking for, or serve as the basis for it.
`text-quoting-style' so far remains a mere Lisp variable, not a
customisable option.

> Lastly, to play devil's advocate: I also recognize, after having written this,
> that I'm something of an "old fogey" in Emacs terms, with a special place for
> ASCII in my heart. It's quite possible that the new-and-coming generation is
> very fond of Unicode, and they will all love this feature, since it gives
> Emacs a more modern "feel". For their sake, I'm prepared to wait for the
> world's judgment before deciding that this feature is entirely terrible.

We old fogies need our tools just as much as the new generations do.

[ .... ]

> -- 
> John Wiegley                  GPG fingerprint = 4710 CF98 AF9B 327B B80F
> http://newartisans.com                          60E1 46C4 BD1A 7AC1 4BA2

-- 
Alan Mackenzie (Nuremberg, Germany).

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