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help xref links to items defined in files not yet loaded

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From: Lars Ingebrigtsen <larsi <at> gnus.org>
To: bug-gnu-emacs <at> gnu.org
Subject: 25.1.50; Some links in doc strings from C aren't turned into links
Date: Fri, 29 Apr 2016 20:23:20 +0200

(describe-function 'kbd)
=>
kbd is a compiled Lisp function in ‘subr.el’.

(kbd KEYS)

Convert KEYS to the internal Emacs key representation.
KEYS should be a string constant in the format used for
saving keyboard macros (see ‘edmacro-mode’).

The subr.el is linked, but the edmacro-mode isn't...



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Message #8 received at 23402 <at> debbugs.gnu.org (full text, mbox):

From: Lars Ingebrigtsen <larsi <at> gnus.org>
To: 23402 <at> debbugs.gnu.org
Subject: Re: bug#23402: 25.1.50;
 Some links in doc strings from C aren't turned into links
Date: Fri, 29 Apr 2016 20:28:33 +0200

Lars Ingebrigtsen <larsi <at> gnus.org> writes:

> Convert KEYS to the internal Emacs key representation.
> KEYS should be a string constant in the format used for
> saving keyboard macros (see ‘edmacro-mode’).
>
> The subr.el is linked, but the edmacro-mode isn't...

Ah, it's because edmacro-mode is defined in a file not loaded yet...

Hm...  I guess there isn't much Emacs can do in that case.

-- 
(domestic pets only, the antidote for overdose, milk.)
   bloggy blog: http://lars.ingebrigtsen.no

Message #11 received at 23402 <at> debbugs.gnu.org (full text, mbox):

From: Glenn Morris <rgm <at> gnu.org>
To: Lars Ingebrigtsen <larsi <at> gnus.org>
Cc: 23402 <at> debbugs.gnu.org
Subject: Re: bug#23402: 25.1.50;
 Some links in doc strings from C aren't turned into links
Date: Fri, 29 Apr 2016 14:29:40 -0400

Lars Ingebrigtsen wrote:

> The subr.el is linked, but the edmacro-mode isn't...

It is after you load edmacro.el. This is as expected. Standard
workaround, if it matters:
  
  *** `C-h f' (`describe-function') can now perform autoloading.
  When this command is called for an autoloaded function whose docstring
  contains a key substitution construct, that function's library is
  automatically loaded, so that the documentation can be shown
  correctly.  To disable this, set `help-enable-auto-load' to nil.

Don't know offhand if it works for stuff in C.

Message #14 received at 23402 <at> debbugs.gnu.org (full text, mbox):

From: Glenn Morris <rgm <at> gnu.org>
To: Lars Ingebrigtsen <larsi <at> gnus.org>
Cc: 23402 <at> debbugs.gnu.org
Subject: Re: bug#23402: 25.1.50;
 Some links in doc strings from C aren't turned into links
Date: Fri, 29 Apr 2016 15:57:51 -0400

Glenn Morris wrote:

> `help-enable-auto-load'

Ah, no, that's only relevant for things that are autoloaded.

Message #23 received at 23402-close <at> debbugs.gnu.org (full text, mbox):

From: Lars Ingebrigtsen <larsi <at> gnus.org>
To: Glenn Morris <rgm <at> gnu.org>
Cc: 23402-close <at> debbugs.gnu.org
Subject: Re: bug#23402: 25.1.50;
 Some links in doc strings from C aren't turned into links
Date: Fri, 29 Apr 2016 22:15:43 +0200

Glenn Morris <rgm <at> gnu.org> writes:

> Glenn Morris wrote:
>
>> `help-enable-auto-load'
>
> Ah, no, that's only relevant for things that are autoloaded.

Yeah, I don't think there is anything that Emacs can do here when you
have a doc string referring to a function that isn't loaded.  Emacs
can't find the function, so...

-- 
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   bloggy blog: http://lars.ingebrigtsen.no

Message #26 received at 23402 <at> debbugs.gnu.org (full text, mbox):

From: Glenn Morris <rgm <at> gnu.org>
To: Lars Ingebrigtsen <larsi <at> gnus.org>
Cc: 23402 <at> debbugs.gnu.org
Subject: Re: bug#23402: 25.1.50;
 Some links in doc strings from C aren't turned into links
Date: Fri, 29 Apr 2016 16:37:40 -0400

It could (subject to help-enable-auto-load) guess that `foo-*' is
defined in foo.el, and try loading foo.
Or if guessing isn't good enough, some markup before the `foo-*'
could indicate the defining library.

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