From unknown Thu Sep 11 09:18:07 2025 X-Loop: help-debbugs@gnu.org Subject: bug#23350: 25.0.93; Docstring of bookmark-save-flag wrongly says that bookmark-default-file defaults do ~/.emacs.bmk Resent-From: Jorge Peixoto de Morais Neto Original-Sender: "Debbugs-submit" Resent-CC: bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org Resent-Date: Sat, 23 Apr 2016 20:43:01 +0000 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-Sender: help-debbugs@gnu.org X-GNU-PR-Message: report 23350 X-GNU-PR-Package: emacs X-GNU-PR-Keywords: To: 23350@debbugs.gnu.org X-Debbugs-Original-To: "bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org" Received: via spool by submit@debbugs.gnu.org id=B.146144417922442 (code B ref -1); Sat, 23 Apr 2016 20:43:01 +0000 Received: (at submit) by debbugs.gnu.org; 23 Apr 2016 20:42:59 +0000 Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:44320 helo=debbugs.gnu.org) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1au4OJ-0005pt-3I for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Sat, 23 Apr 2016 16:42:59 -0400 Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([208.118.235.92]:47248) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1au4OG-0005pf-W0 for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; 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Sat, 23 Apr 2016 13:42:41 -0700 (PDT) Received: from [192.168.25.29] ([191.33.140.232]) by smtp.googlemail.com with ESMTPSA id r191sm17202362pfr.36.2016.04.23.13.42.39 for (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=OTHER); Sat, 23 Apr 2016 13:42:40 -0700 (PDT) Message-ID: <1461444156.13483.3.camel@gmail.com> From: Jorge Peixoto de Morais Neto Date: Sat, 23 Apr 2016 17:42:36 -0300 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="UTF-8" X-Mailer: Evolution 3.18.5.2-0ubuntu1 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-detected-operating-system: by eggs.gnu.org: GNU/Linux 2.2.x-3.x [generic] X-detected-operating-system: by eggs.gnu.org: GNU/Linux 2.6.x X-Received-From: 2001:4830:134:3::11 X-Spam-Score: -2.1 (--) X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18 Precedence: list List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Sender: "Debbugs-submit" X-Spam-Score: -2.1 (--) bookmark-default-file is defined in bookmark.el as follows:     (defcustom bookmark-default-file       (if bookmark-file           ;; In case user set `bookmark-file' in her .emacs:           bookmark-file         (locate-user-emacs-file "bookmarks" ".emacs.bmk"))       "File in which to save bookmarks by default."       :type 'file       :group 'bookmark) Therefore, ".emacs.bmk" is not the default.  Because of the semantics of locate-user-emacs-file, the default is equivalent to (concat user-emacs-directory "bookmarks") In GNU Emacs 25.0.93.1 (x86_64-unknown-linux-gnu, GTK+ Version 3.18.9)  of 2016-04-22 built on jorge-HP-G42 Windowing system distributor 'The X.Org Foundation', version 11.0.11803000 System Description: Ubuntu 16.04 LTS Configured using:  'configure --prefix=/usr/local/emacs/ --with-modules' Configured features: XPM JPEG TIFF GIF PNG RSVG IMAGEMAGICK SOUND GPM DBUS GCONF GSETTINGS NOTIFY ACL LIBSELINUX GNUTLS LIBXML2 FREETYPE M17N_FLT LIBOTF XFT ZLIB TOOLKIT_SCROLL_BARS GTK3 X11 MODULES Important settings:   value of $LC_MONETARY: en_DK.UTF-8   value of $LC_NUMERIC: en_DK.UTF-8   value of $LC_TIME: en_DK.UTF-8   value of $LANG: en_US.UTF-8   value of $XMODIFIERS: @im=ibus   locale-coding-system: utf-8-unix Major mode: Fundamental Minor modes in effect:   tooltip-mode: t   global-eldoc-mode: t   electric-indent-mode: t   mouse-wheel-mode: t   tool-bar-mode: t   menu-bar-mode: t   file-name-shadow-mode: t   global-font-lock-mode: t   blink-cursor-mode: t   auto-composition-mode: t   auto-encryption-mode: t   auto-compression-mode: t   buffer-read-only: t   line-number-mode: t   transient-mark-mode: t Recent messages: For information about GNU Emacs and the GNU system, type C-h C-a. 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7z. - Free software for Android: https://f-droid.org/ From unknown Thu Sep 11 09:18:07 2025 X-Loop: help-debbugs@gnu.org Subject: bug#23350: 25.0.93; Docstring of bookmark-save-flag wrongly says that bookmark-default-file defaults do ~/.emacs.bmk Resent-From: John Mastro Original-Sender: "Debbugs-submit" Resent-CC: bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org Resent-Date: Sat, 23 Apr 2016 21:34:01 +0000 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-Sender: help-debbugs@gnu.org X-GNU-PR-Message: followup 23350 X-GNU-PR-Package: emacs X-GNU-PR-Keywords: To: 23350@debbugs.gnu.org Cc: Jorge Peixoto de Morais Neto Received: via spool by 23350-submit@debbugs.gnu.org id=B23350.146144718427375 (code B ref 23350); Sat, 23 Apr 2016 21:34:01 +0000 Received: (at 23350) by debbugs.gnu.org; 23 Apr 2016 21:33:04 +0000 Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:44351 helo=debbugs.gnu.org) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1au5Am-00077T-5L for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Sat, 23 Apr 2016 17:33:04 -0400 Received: from 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h=x-gm-message-state:mime-version:in-reply-to:references:from:date :message-id:subject:to:cc; bh=C6uhVxsS/lDaP+SvmOvpSI2aDsSgQLiNY2A0pvlxIQs=; b=eMAuhn6Gjk07Q6wkCU+FBVz8XNRWQ/7oytRTvU7bM0OGnVZDCxA7EHJTuPJLpUeE8K ijRydj0MG58DPMZi1LfumuVgsL5hnsjDPy+7YcUeGOeuRDoaxH4M0ozA+Ef/3rCUy0pA F4OyjJeTrZcMyvUXZLfkqgrQA7GHvOBjE1+YqG2XqLMjaXpkaCjQmqT3WzsuaB5n1US+ bYigFi1YyRYkxAJQ3NBgfZh1+W7HeXaJIRrXpAFJx0NP43l4EWY5JTeTu3VezSCDr1Bp rFuiHtURfODkPFumi+HZVTBVGvsfxmWjBnX8XXG2/0Q1f6rH+0Qj6pF5kXtBdC19LwHn JwgA== X-Gm-Message-State: AOPr4FVB6lpDL1XqDC+4l86Qc71SCdi5K9rRP6HzU7LSgWKJ03CM5tdpAD7Ke7BaYaGHWIllL6hRm4/SmOuhLA== X-Received: by 10.129.86.131 with SMTP id k125mr16643870ywb.158.1461447177950; Sat, 23 Apr 2016 14:32:57 -0700 (PDT) MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.37.71.86 with HTTP; Sat, 23 Apr 2016 14:32:38 -0700 (PDT) In-Reply-To: <1461444156.13483.3.camel@gmail.com> References: <1461444156.13483.3.camel@gmail.com> From: John Mastro Date: Sat, 23 Apr 2016 14:32:38 -0700 Message-ID: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 X-Spam-Score: -0.0 (/) X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18 Precedence: list List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Sender: "Debbugs-submit" X-Spam-Score: -0.0 (/) Jorge Peixoto de Morais Neto wrote: > bookmark-default-file is defined in bookmark.el as follows: > (defcustom bookmark-default-file > (if bookmark-file > ;; In case user set `bookmark-file' in her .emacs: > bookmark-file > (locate-user-emacs-file "bookmarks" ".emacs.bmk")) > "File in which to save bookmarks by default." > :type 'file > :group 'bookmark) > > Therefore, ".emacs.bmk" is not the default. Because of the semantics of > locate-user-emacs-file, the default is equivalent to > (concat user-emacs-directory "bookmarks") My reading of the docstring and code is that it's working as intended. It's not that .emacs.bmk is the default, but that it was the default in the past. The logic seems to be (assuming ~/.emacs.d/ is the user's Emacs directory): 1. If `bookmark-file' is non-nil, use that 2. If ~/.emacs.d/bookmarks exists, use that 3. If ~/.emacs.d/.emacs.bmk exists, use that 4. Otherwise, use ~/.emacs.d/bookmarks Note that ~/.emacs.d/bookmarks is used in both 2 and 4. In other words, ~/.emacs.d/bookmarks is the real default, but it's accommodating the continued use of the old default (~/.emacs.d/.emacs.bmk). -- John From unknown Thu Sep 11 09:18:07 2025 X-Loop: help-debbugs@gnu.org Subject: bug#23350: 25.0.93; Docstring of bookmark-save-flag wrongly says that bookmark-default-file defaults do ~/.emacs.bmk Resent-From: Jorge Morais Original-Sender: "Debbugs-submit" Resent-CC: bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org Resent-Date: Sat, 23 Apr 2016 21:52:02 +0000 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-Sender: help-debbugs@gnu.org X-GNU-PR-Message: followup 23350 X-GNU-PR-Package: emacs X-GNU-PR-Keywords: To: 23350@debbugs.gnu.org X-Debbugs-Original-To: "bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org" Received: via spool by submit@debbugs.gnu.org id=B.146144830428961 (code B ref -1); Sat, 23 Apr 2016 21:52:02 +0000 Received: (at submit) by debbugs.gnu.org; 23 Apr 2016 21:51:44 +0000 Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:44360 helo=debbugs.gnu.org) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1au5Sp-0007X2-WF for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Sat, 23 Apr 2016 17:51:44 -0400 Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([208.118.235.92]:58652) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1au5So-0007Wo-6T for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Sat, 23 Apr 2016 17:51:42 -0400 Received: from Debian-exim by eggs.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1au5Si-0005Po-5H for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Sat, 23 Apr 2016 17:51:36 -0400 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.3.2 (2011-06-06) on eggs.gnu.org X-Spam-Level: * X-Spam-Status: No, score=1.1 required=5.0 tests=BAYES_50, FREEMAIL_ENVFROM_END_DIGIT,FREEMAIL_FROM,T_DKIM_INVALID autolearn=disabled version=3.3.2 Received: from lists.gnu.org ([2001:4830:134:3::11]:41549) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1au5Si-0005Pk-22 for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Sat, 23 Apr 2016 17:51:36 -0400 Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([2001:4830:134:3::10]:49618) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1au5Sh-0004px-80 for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Sat, 23 Apr 2016 17:51:35 -0400 Received: from Debian-exim by eggs.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1au5Sg-0005PV-Gr for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Sat, 23 Apr 2016 17:51:35 -0400 Received: from mail-io0-x243.google.com ([2607:f8b0:4001:c06::243]:33343) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1au5Sg-0005P8-B0 for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Sat, 23 Apr 2016 17:51:34 -0400 Received: by mail-io0-x243.google.com with SMTP id x35so7466036ioi.0 for ; Sat, 23 Apr 2016 14:51:34 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20120113; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to; bh=Z2VAakzG81IzC8DyBDbd3pTfzkfa+RLEF8uMWY8tmIc=; b=bhWqPzvBh4ZvZbrdj0uuYNdgZwBKp8zB8BSOsavAAGXsB+cdcDk/1lA2fwKcqxzgmn 2MDAcoZqfCHajj8q/UiCnU6+iNGfG1LAlRV+1lXDwMOwTqBwpjsMFIVcxL4uDfjEkiv6 To1LOId6nLhJ06QL+kkS7TeS4u8g/mqzBkJj4rZeW9bK6z9ItD6m/U9Q0Z10Ec6x9Jfn eaBjbhD4AMf/rPSg0bkbVHolytox8PZVqXVplFweZ9gp1pBQXp5Utrv/SSuDDsG63XmX t/rqaw+Jt/pY7zu17EaA5mXIhGMEdFPPPy4gzJTbh3wZyrr/142lAnZkdh6Jck420kqg v6dg== X-Google-DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=1e100.net; s=20130820; h=x-gm-message-state:mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date :message-id:subject:from:to; bh=Z2VAakzG81IzC8DyBDbd3pTfzkfa+RLEF8uMWY8tmIc=; b=j4+2jnORGuJq4peYOcLdSdDi6hj2mOLCCSe2XWaWmhBOCaiys3Gyaa3pqIZIayXWZq o8v7A3mWlKOqiCBzkYAuqJ03bOhOY4hYNmsa90TIgATjA2AyepwjGaKQMd8q1JAJTHFe ht6EcJ8N14CKmoAoZrJdLXLRQJnQ5vt+tLR7zM7K9AOHO+tTBB9UqvyMDvnVbeg1lyJ9 hIepf0OLvqgE1fstiSmk00rvVSXfHTUGXxIOrkwHnfiXYGgoKJmAWDiZRMeSWzlZ+RHG pFLU4AngKKTZmGU1Q5lYIgJqhSIiQrNjarHwk+ysvkEouZquWNcmSLdDVoUWdFhyKqve fASQ== X-Gm-Message-State: AOPr4FXnoY26mQRVkPbBGQgP8ijnBbAXdy0F55Sg/vuqsMRtDS1LfFZouDyH4reKg25ssexILM2432BsVkMVGw== MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Received: by 10.107.7.72 with SMTP id 69mr12635449ioh.64.1461448293628; Sat, 23 Apr 2016 14:51:33 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.107.141.216 with HTTP; Sat, 23 Apr 2016 14:51:33 -0700 (PDT) In-Reply-To: <1461444156.13483.3.camel@gmail.com> References: <1461444156.13483.3.camel@gmail.com> Date: Sat, 23 Apr 2016 18:51:33 -0300 Message-ID: From: Jorge Morais Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 X-detected-operating-system: by eggs.gnu.org: GNU/Linux 2.2.x-3.x [generic] X-detected-operating-system: by eggs.gnu.org: GNU/Linux 2.6.x X-Received-From: 2001:4830:134:3::11 X-Spam-Score: -2.1 (--) X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18 Precedence: list List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Sender: "Debbugs-submit" X-Spam-Score: -2.1 (--) On Sat, Apr 23, 2016 at 5:42 PM, Jorge Peixoto de Morais Neto wrote: > Therefore, ".emacs.bmk" is not the default. Because of the semantics of > locate-user-emacs-file, the default is equivalent to > (concat user-emacs-directory "bookmarks") Oops, I forgot to say that the docstring of bookmark-load also needs to be updated. I don't need to open a new bug, this e-mail reply is enough, right? -- I am Brazilian. I apologize for possibly bad English and I welcome corrections. From unknown Thu Sep 11 09:18:07 2025 X-Loop: help-debbugs@gnu.org Subject: bug#23350: 25.0.93; Docstring of bookmark-save-flag wrongly says that bookmark-default-file defaults do ~/.emacs.bmk Resent-From: Jorge Peixoto de Morais Neto Original-Sender: "Debbugs-submit" Resent-CC: bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org Resent-Date: Sun, 24 Apr 2016 15:39:02 +0000 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-Sender: help-debbugs@gnu.org X-GNU-PR-Message: followup 23350 X-GNU-PR-Package: emacs X-GNU-PR-Keywords: To: John Mastro , 23350@debbugs.gnu.org Received: via spool by 23350-submit@debbugs.gnu.org id=B23350.146151228230384 (code B ref 23350); Sun, 24 Apr 2016 15:39:02 +0000 Received: (at 23350) by debbugs.gnu.org; 24 Apr 2016 15:38:02 +0000 Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:45157 helo=debbugs.gnu.org) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1auM6j-0007tp-Nk for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Sun, 24 Apr 2016 11:38:02 -0400 Received: from mail-pa0-f68.google.com ([209.85.220.68]:34754) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1auM6h-0007tT-LV for 23350@debbugs.gnu.org; Sun, 24 Apr 2016 11:38:00 -0400 Received: by mail-pa0-f68.google.com with SMTP id yl2so10695813pac.1 for <23350@debbugs.gnu.org>; Sun, 24 Apr 2016 08:37:59 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20120113; h=message-id:subject:from:to:date:in-reply-to:references:mime-version :content-transfer-encoding; bh=+egh2II/+2SCgq1YZMBfn4m281b2hQBaCiJ+GP+oDIk=; b=mNoe08IedhnqJR9PHVqUz0S70PaOH5kPw8shQWO4feN+MD+YVL7fo2RD9bi48aU16v fO+0AVoKYBnhMWAytukeWAbHxR7xaXS5orgo8ZwFBUPh0+yBZH1qI4v2UZ3BdhLEJW4Q h+PT2JlgN15D1w8jDeuSiMliGEc1V/hryVdqp30IG9VoRHPaUBpAiWsDzMWO9y69Ute7 hbAoD+nAWMn7qZ+Bb/f5x6p0KpAEH6gdmov/+s7D8YF32h2EdRKte0B+6DsVMkq9kRsU ol2r+im8B9Gofns88TUrMm0dZRa2s7swRH2XdcnavuN0hFq6rjfOxZW970rhT18rlU8r y5JA== X-Google-DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=1e100.net; s=20130820; h=x-gm-message-state:message-id:subject:from:to:date:in-reply-to :references:mime-version:content-transfer-encoding; bh=+egh2II/+2SCgq1YZMBfn4m281b2hQBaCiJ+GP+oDIk=; b=CUMIKRANHF6CJai0Fy9XusWeH5hkRo3bn/lmsIB1PWp84UhTvAdc2fmF4g0hdPkN4l aePxowJRh20KzM/e/ti5hNrqMcPts4IVdXn0V+UY3WfhvOt/fGvAVj52ioENRpRHRQOM 2x2UKnxI8Vwbd9AZro0D58dfq6yzS6k4MnkTno3+F7uyzNV9cs13iF5fA45kJgXKIjiE LUOGX0pcwy1mjBkdMqpTBQ3YNKoa1L8yJdQX+MwhZwKhDH/sFUXzkafJ4wWPtSl3+JUF lQDo8orcJ4lEBG7dNc4MQ/CN6vXoEg1cqcVeZYN5zm1vJibx3Vl0VrjCCBP7kglRUuB0 KXIQ== X-Gm-Message-State: AOPr4FU5zoP9CIDxTx0HFJ5XGLkEN+uf/J3/9CHwx/bwbrLNumjca3YHKhO32goJRjK4Eg== X-Received: by 10.66.229.33 with SMTP id sn1mr42730396pac.49.1461512273973; Sun, 24 Apr 2016 08:37:53 -0700 (PDT) Received: from [192.168.25.29] ([191.33.140.232]) by smtp.googlemail.com with ESMTPSA id x184sm21767720pfb.53.2016.04.24.08.37.51 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=OTHER); Sun, 24 Apr 2016 08:37:53 -0700 (PDT) Message-ID: <1461512268.13483.16.camel@gmail.com> From: Jorge Peixoto de Morais Neto Date: Sun, 24 Apr 2016 12:37:48 -0300 In-Reply-To: References: <1461444156.13483.3.camel@gmail.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="UTF-8" X-Mailer: Evolution 3.18.5.2-0ubuntu1 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-Spam-Score: -0.4 (/) X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18 Precedence: list List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Sender: "Debbugs-submit" X-Spam-Score: -0.4 (/) On Sat, 2016-04-23 at 14:32 -0700, John Mastro wrote: > My reading of the docstring and code is that it's working as intended. > It's not that .emacs.bmk is the default, but that it was the default in > the past. > > The logic seems to be (assuming ~/.emacs.d/ is the user's Emacs > directory): >   1. If `bookmark-file' is non-nil, use that >   2. If ~/.emacs.d/bookmarks exists, use that >   3. If ~/.emacs.d/.emacs.bmk exists, use that >   4. Otherwise, use ~/.emacs.d/bookmarks > > Note that ~/.emacs.d/bookmarks is used in both 2 and 4. > > In other words, ~/.emacs.d/bookmarks is the real default, but it's > accommodating the continued use of the old default > (~/.emacs.d/.emacs.bmk). In a vanilla, non-customized installation of Emacs, bookmark-default-file is "~/.emacs.d/bookmarks".  That is what should be reported as the default value. Instead, the docstring of bookmark-save-flag says: > To specify the file in which to save them, modify the variable > ‘bookmark-default-file’, which is ‘~/.emacs.bmk’ by default. This is confusing.  The docstring of bookmark-load is also confusing, as it says: > Your own personal bookmark file, ‘~/.emacs.bmk’, is > maintained automatically by Emacs These docstrings could send a novice user in the wrong direction, consuming his time and reinforcing the image that configuring Emacs is time-consuming.  -- - I am Brazilian.  I hope my English is correct and I welcome corrections. - Please adopt free formats like PDF, ODF, LaTeX, Vorbis, Opus, WebM and 7z. - Free software for Android: https://f-droid.org/ From unknown Thu Sep 11 09:18:07 2025 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: MIME-tools 5.505 (Entity 5.505) X-Loop: help-debbugs@gnu.org From: help-debbugs@gnu.org (GNU bug Tracking System) To: Jorge Peixoto de Morais Neto Subject: bug#23350: closed (Re: bug#23350: 25.0.93; Docstring of bookmark-save-flag wrongly says that bookmark-default-file defaults do ~/.emacs.bmk) Message-ID: References: <83y4822iov.fsf@gnu.org> <1461444156.13483.3.camel@gmail.com> X-Gnu-PR-Message: they-closed 23350 X-Gnu-PR-Package: emacs Reply-To: 23350@debbugs.gnu.org Date: Mon, 25 Apr 2016 08:32:02 +0000 Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="----------=_1461573122-1109-1" This is a multi-part message in MIME format... ------------=_1461573122-1109-1 Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8" Your bug report #23350: 25.0.93; Docstring of bookmark-save-flag wrongly says that bookmark= -default-file defaults do ~/.emacs.bmk which was filed against the emacs package, has been closed. The explanation is attached below, along with your original report. If you require more details, please reply to 23350@debbugs.gnu.org. --=20 23350: http://debbugs.gnu.org/cgi/bugreport.cgi?bug=3D23350 GNU Bug Tracking System Contact help-debbugs@gnu.org with problems ------------=_1461573122-1109-1 Content-Type: message/rfc822 Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Received: (at 23350-done) by debbugs.gnu.org; 25 Apr 2016 08:32:00 +0000 Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:45590 helo=debbugs.gnu.org) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1aubw0-0000Hf-Gn for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Mon, 25 Apr 2016 04:32:00 -0400 Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([208.118.235.92]:58332) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1aubvy-0000HQ-RZ for 23350-done@debbugs.gnu.org; Mon, 25 Apr 2016 04:31:59 -0400 Received: from Debian-exim by eggs.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1aubvq-0001W3-JR for 23350-done@debbugs.gnu.org; Mon, 25 Apr 2016 04:31:53 -0400 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.3.2 (2011-06-06) on eggs.gnu.org X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-0.2 required=5.0 tests=BAYES_50,RP_MATCHES_RCVD autolearn=disabled version=3.3.2 Received: from fencepost.gnu.org ([2001:4830:134:3::e]:48889) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1aubvq-0001Vz-GP; Mon, 25 Apr 2016 04:31:50 -0400 Received: from 84.94.185.246.cable.012.net.il ([84.94.185.246]:4766 helo=home-c4e4a596f7) by fencepost.gnu.org with esmtpsa (TLS1.2:RSA_AES_128_CBC_SHA1:128) (Exim 4.82) (envelope-from ) id 1aubvp-0004ET-Pj; Mon, 25 Apr 2016 04:31:50 -0400 Date: Mon, 25 Apr 2016 11:31:28 +0300 Message-Id: <83y4822iov.fsf@gnu.org> From: Eli Zaretskii To: Jorge Peixoto de Morais Neto In-reply-to: <1461512268.13483.16.camel@gmail.com> (message from Jorge Peixoto de Morais Neto on Sun, 24 Apr 2016 12:37:48 -0300) Subject: Re: bug#23350: 25.0.93; Docstring of bookmark-save-flag wrongly says that bookmark-default-file defaults do ~/.emacs.bmk References: <1461444156.13483.3.camel@gmail.com> <1461512268.13483.16.camel@gmail.com> MIME-version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-detected-operating-system: by eggs.gnu.org: GNU/Linux 2.2.x-3.x [generic] X-Received-From: 2001:4830:134:3::e X-Spam-Score: -4.4 (----) X-Debbugs-Envelope-To: 23350-done Cc: john.b.mastro@gmail.com, 23350-done@debbugs.gnu.org X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18 Precedence: list List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Reply-To: Eli Zaretskii Errors-To: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Sender: "Debbugs-submit" X-Spam-Score: -4.4 (----) > From: Jorge Peixoto de Morais Neto > Date: Sun, 24 Apr 2016 12:37:48 -0300 > > On Sat, 2016-04-23 at 14:32 -0700, John Mastro wrote: > > My reading of the docstring and code is that it's working as intended. > > It's not that .emacs.bmk is the default, but that it was the default in > > the past. > > > > The logic seems to be (assuming ~/.emacs.d/ is the user's Emacs > > directory): > >   1. If `bookmark-file' is non-nil, use that > >   2. If ~/.emacs.d/bookmarks exists, use that > >   3. If ~/.emacs.d/.emacs.bmk exists, use that > >   4. Otherwise, use ~/.emacs.d/bookmarks > > > > Note that ~/.emacs.d/bookmarks is used in both 2 and 4. > > > > In other words, ~/.emacs.d/bookmarks is the real default, but it's > > accommodating the continued use of the old default > > (~/.emacs.d/.emacs.bmk). > In a vanilla, non-customized installation of Emacs, bookmark-default-file > is "~/.emacs.d/bookmarks".  That is what should be reported as the default > value. > > Instead, the docstring of bookmark-save-flag says: > > To specify the file in which to save them, modify the variable > > ‘bookmark-default-file’, which is ‘~/.emacs.bmk’ by default. > > This is confusing.  The docstring of bookmark-load is also confusing, as it > says: > > Your own personal bookmark file, ‘~/.emacs.bmk’, is > > maintained automatically by Emacs > > These docstrings could send a novice user in the wrong direction, consuming > his time and reinforcing the image that configuring Emacs is time-consuming.  Thanks, fixed for Emacs 25.1. ------------=_1461573122-1109-1 Content-Type: message/rfc822 Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Received: (at submit) by debbugs.gnu.org; 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Docstring of bookmark-save-flag wrongly says that bookmark-default-file defaults do ~/.emacs.bmk From: Jorge Peixoto de Morais Neto To: "bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org" Date: Sat, 23 Apr 2016 17:42:36 -0300 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="UTF-8" X-Mailer: Evolution 3.18.5.2-0ubuntu1 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-detected-operating-system: by eggs.gnu.org: GNU/Linux 2.2.x-3.x [generic] X-detected-operating-system: by eggs.gnu.org: GNU/Linux 2.6.x X-Received-From: 2001:4830:134:3::11 X-Spam-Score: -2.1 (--) X-Debbugs-Envelope-To: submit X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18 Precedence: list List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Sender: "Debbugs-submit" X-Spam-Score: -2.1 (--) bookmark-default-file is defined in bookmark.el as follows:     (defcustom bookmark-default-file       (if bookmark-file           ;; In case user set `bookmark-file' in her .emacs:           bookmark-file         (locate-user-emacs-file "bookmarks" ".emacs.bmk"))       "File in which to save bookmarks by default."       :type 'file       :group 'bookmark) Therefore, ".emacs.bmk" is not the default.  Because of the semantics of locate-user-emacs-file, the default is equivalent to (concat user-emacs-directory "bookmarks") In GNU Emacs 25.0.93.1 (x86_64-unknown-linux-gnu, GTK+ Version 3.18.9)  of 2016-04-22 built on jorge-HP-G42 Windowing system distributor 'The X.Org Foundation', version 11.0.11803000 System Description: Ubuntu 16.04 LTS Configured using:  'configure --prefix=/usr/local/emacs/ --with-modules' Configured features: XPM JPEG TIFF GIF PNG RSVG IMAGEMAGICK SOUND GPM DBUS GCONF GSETTINGS NOTIFY ACL LIBSELINUX GNUTLS LIBXML2 FREETYPE M17N_FLT LIBOTF XFT ZLIB TOOLKIT_SCROLL_BARS GTK3 X11 MODULES Important settings:   value of $LC_MONETARY: en_DK.UTF-8   value of $LC_NUMERIC: en_DK.UTF-8   value of $LC_TIME: en_DK.UTF-8   value of $LANG: en_US.UTF-8   value of $XMODIFIERS: @im=ibus   locale-coding-system: utf-8-unix Major mode: Fundamental Minor modes in effect:   tooltip-mode: t   global-eldoc-mode: t   electric-indent-mode: t   mouse-wheel-mode: t   tool-bar-mode: t   menu-bar-mode: t   file-name-shadow-mode: t   global-font-lock-mode: t   blink-cursor-mode: t   auto-composition-mode: t   auto-encryption-mode: t   auto-compression-mode: t   buffer-read-only: t   line-number-mode: t   transient-mark-mode: t Recent messages: For information about GNU Emacs and the GNU system, type C-h C-a. 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7z. - Free software for Android: https://f-droid.org/ ------------=_1461573122-1109-1-- From unknown Thu Sep 11 09:18:07 2025 X-Loop: help-debbugs@gnu.org Subject: bug#23350: 25.0.93; Docstring of bookmark-save-flag wrongly says that bookmark-default-file defaults do ~/.emacs.bmk References: <1461444156.13483.3.camel@gmail.com> In-Reply-To: <1461444156.13483.3.camel@gmail.com> Resent-From: Jorge Original-Sender: "Debbugs-submit" Resent-CC: bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org Resent-Date: Mon, 25 Apr 2016 11:07:01 +0000 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-Sender: help-debbugs@gnu.org X-GNU-PR-Message: followup 23350 X-GNU-PR-Package: emacs X-GNU-PR-Keywords: To: Eli Zaretskii Cc: john.b.mastro@gmail.com, 23350-done@debbugs.gnu.org Received: via spool by 23350-done@debbugs.gnu.org id=D23350.146158239415742 (code D ref 23350); Mon, 25 Apr 2016 11:07:01 +0000 Received: (at 23350-done) by debbugs.gnu.org; 25 Apr 2016 11:06:34 +0000 Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:45686 helo=debbugs.gnu.org) by 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X-Google-Sender-Auth: DnmPg3g5VNuvieubuXV5E2SlXjA Message-ID: From: Jorge Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 X-Spam-Score: -0.7 (/) X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18 Precedence: list List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Sender: "Debbugs-submit" X-Spam-Score: -0.7 (/) On 25 April 2016 at 05:31, Eli Zaretskii wrote: > Thanks, fixed for Emacs 25.1. Thank you very much! -- - I am Brazilian. I apologize for possibly bad English and I welcome corrections. - Please adopt free formats like PDF, ODF, LaTeX, Vorbis, Opus, WebM and 7z. - Free software for Android: https://f-droid.org/