From unknown Thu Aug 14 21:44:09 2025 Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: MIME-tools 5.509 (Entity 5.509) Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 From: bug#23208 <23208@debbugs.gnu.org> To: bug#23208 <23208@debbugs.gnu.org> Subject: Status: 25.1.50; `C-h i' in an uninstalled Emacs doesn't work Reply-To: bug#23208 <23208@debbugs.gnu.org> Date: Fri, 15 Aug 2025 04:44:09 +0000 retitle 23208 25.1.50; `C-h i' in an uninstalled Emacs doesn't work reassign 23208 emacs submitter 23208 Lars Magne Ingebrigtsen severity 23208 normal tag 23208 notabug thanks From debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Sun Apr 03 15:00:03 2016 Received: (at submit) by debbugs.gnu.org; 3 Apr 2016 19:00:03 +0000 Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:50275 helo=debbugs.gnu.org) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1amnFi-0005m1-Hv for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Sun, 03 Apr 2016 15:00:03 -0400 Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([208.118.235.92]:59363) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1amnFg-0005lK-VM for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Sun, 03 Apr 2016 15:00:01 -0400 Received: from Debian-exim by eggs.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1amnFa-0000TP-Lw for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Sun, 03 Apr 2016 14:59:55 -0400 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.3.2 (2011-06-06) on eggs.gnu.org X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=0.8 required=5.0 tests=BAYES_50 autolearn=disabled version=3.3.2 Received: from lists.gnu.org ([2001:4830:134:3::11]:59566) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1amnFa-0000TL-Ip for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Sun, 03 Apr 2016 14:59:54 -0400 Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([2001:4830:134:3::10]:50327) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1amnFZ-0007dZ-6f for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Sun, 03 Apr 2016 14:59:54 -0400 Received: from Debian-exim by eggs.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1amnFU-0000ST-59 for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Sun, 03 Apr 2016 14:59:53 -0400 Received: from hermes.netfonds.no ([80.91.224.195]:47081) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1amnFT-0000SP-Qz for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Sun, 03 Apr 2016 14:59:48 -0400 Received: from cm-84.215.1.64.getinternet.no ([84.215.1.64] helo=stories) by hermes.netfonds.no with esmtpsa (TLS1.2:DHE_RSA_AES_128_CBC_SHA1:128) (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1amnFP-0008Kg-Tu for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Sun, 03 Apr 2016 20:59:46 +0200 From: Lars Magne Ingebrigtsen To: bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org Subject: 25.1.50; `C-h i' in an uninstalled Emacs doesn't work Date: Sun, 03 Apr 2016 20:59:43 +0200 Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=windows-1252 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-detected-operating-system: by eggs.gnu.org: GNU/Linux 2.2.x-3.x [generic] X-detected-operating-system: by eggs.gnu.org: GNU/Linux 2.6.x X-Received-From: 2001:4830:134:3::11 X-Spam-Score: -5.0 (-----) X-Debbugs-Envelope-To: submit X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18 Precedence: list List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Sender: "Debbugs-submit" X-Spam-Score: -5.0 (-----) I'm pretty sure that it didn't work in the olden days, too, but it was fixed a few years ago. And now it doesn't work again. `C-h i' should default to .../info/dir if no dir file exists in `Info-directory-list'. Or perhaps just be a part of the default value? In GNU Emacs 25.1.50.23 (x86_64-unknown-linux-gnu, GTK+ Version 3.4.2) of 2016-04-03 built on stories Repository revision: f7c5f79ca565d3ef3feeb1e0af5ca261f1bcf58a Windowing system distributor 'The X.Org Foundation', version 11.0.11204000 System Description: Debian GNU/Linux 7.9 (wheezy) Configured features: XPM JPEG TIFF GIF PNG RSVG IMAGEMAGICK SOUND GSETTINGS NOTIFY GNUTLS LIBXML2 FREETYPE LIBOTF XFT ZLIB TOOLKIT_SCROLL_BARS GTK3 X11 Important settings: value of $LANG: en_US locale-coding-system: iso-latin-1-unix Major mode: Help Minor modes in effect: diff-auto-refine-mode: t shell-dirtrack-mode: t tooltip-mode: t global-eldoc-mode: t electric-indent-mode: t mouse-wheel-mode: t file-name-shadow-mode: t global-font-lock-mode: t font-lock-mode: t blink-cursor-mode: t auto-composition-mode: t auto-encryption-mode: t auto-compression-mode: t buffer-read-only: t line-number-mode: t Recent messages: Checking new news...done Opening nnimap server on hermes.netfonds.no...done nnimap read 0k from hermes.netfonds.no Info-insert-dir: Can=92t find the Info directory node Type C-x 1 to delete the help window, C-M-v to scroll help. 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Sun, 03 Apr 2016 15:09:30 -0400 Date: Sun, 03 Apr 2016 22:09:02 +0300 Message-Id: <83bn5qpl0x.fsf@gnu.org> From: Eli Zaretskii To: Lars Magne Ingebrigtsen In-reply-to: (message from Lars Magne Ingebrigtsen on Sun, 03 Apr 2016 20:59:43 +0200) Subject: Re: bug#23208: 25.1.50; `C-h i' in an uninstalled Emacs doesn't work References: X-detected-operating-system: by eggs.gnu.org: GNU/Linux 2.2.x-3.x [generic] X-Received-From: 2001:4830:134:3::e X-Spam-Score: -6.0 (------) X-Debbugs-Envelope-To: 23208 Cc: 23208@debbugs.gnu.org X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18 Precedence: list List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Reply-To: Eli Zaretskii Errors-To: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Sender: "Debbugs-submit" X-Spam-Score: -6.0 (------) > From: Lars Magne Ingebrigtsen > Date: Sun, 03 Apr 2016 20:59:43 +0200 > > I'm pretty sure that it didn't work in the olden days, too, but it was > fixed a few years ago. And now it doesn't work again. It does here. Do you have INFOPATH set in the environment? > `C-h i' should default to .../info/dir if no dir file exists in > `Info-directory-list'. What do you have in Info-default-directory-list, upon starting an uninstalled Emacs? From debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Sun Apr 03 15:12:59 2016 Received: (at 23208) by debbugs.gnu.org; 3 Apr 2016 19:13:00 +0000 Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:50289 helo=debbugs.gnu.org) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1amnSD-000655-ML for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Sun, 03 Apr 2016 15:12:59 -0400 Received: from hermes.netfonds.no ([80.91.224.195]:59871) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1amnS9-00064v-Lc for 23208@debbugs.gnu.org; Sun, 03 Apr 2016 15:12:57 -0400 Received: from cm-84.215.1.64.getinternet.no ([84.215.1.64] helo=stories) by hermes.netfonds.no with esmtpsa (TLS1.2:DHE_RSA_AES_128_CBC_SHA1:128) (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1amnS5-0008S7-Fb; Sun, 03 Apr 2016 21:12:53 +0200 From: Lars Magne Ingebrigtsen To: Eli Zaretskii Subject: Re: bug#23208: 25.1.50; `C-h i' in an uninstalled Emacs doesn't work References: <83bn5qpl0x.fsf@gnu.org> Face: iVBORw0KGgoAAAANSUhEUgAAADAAAAAwBAMAAAClLOS0AAAAFVBMVEUpEA0RBQLy8u+ZgWlV Liz+//5yT0YxlBGVAAAB70lEQVQ4jcWTMa7bMAyGKVTwLAJC5sJpDvCshLMMEzxACu95FR/vf4RS cgK0KDq0Hcp4UPiZ/09ZFOy/Cfi/4D7Pl3meiwf5r7S+KhfY3yEkHBHwFQE/YA/EP2VrSA/oAEz7 /wR15E+Gyhw+4J7IEBAzHoImWVngBvtn0gqYIeSez9xOzLzeRsUDAjjrNmz2SSUmB+gghbQOqaxt KyIsB7CEjlCuSYyUotRwAAK3z5M1ETPTLFYGcC0HPdesNFPZ+s7vgXydcjYjZ1I2sgN0D4Pk7Th6 TF2r0Y/gZMamnt5UijwB1bzmDoyIm7VCA5AoZGA19yC7NmrtkOobgZq7tbgBe1fWQSPvyvdRRScv blK3Q8q9a4aUYoSptatE95ADSIoAmWsN3WY1P98O1DTEib0gBm/XTv0DHBU1RI0MGCOpraIb0z7M AeAR/Xggsmvx9QmI3Fo51oCTSGvMomUA427up4456rQRMz2l3rAirMk3gkCbCTav+IpWrhj7YEEV SN4WIwwpbf6iny2eytLUQCPCaYDt7Zipb8u5XMHWFSEPIO9j1KCcF/oSOaxYBxBbn1ObopS1ut86 wDPA3QF8jPrcOdjP5Yh5Pvtj437M86836v5Pl9Nv4YjLfnktXqDbnpfLPi/zsszn2197/Bn4Dh/x Dl3FnIoSAAAAAElFTkSuQmCC Date: Sun, 03 Apr 2016 21:12:48 +0200 In-Reply-To: <83bn5qpl0x.fsf@gnu.org> (Eli Zaretskii's message of "Sun, 03 Apr 2016 22:09:02 +0300") Message-ID: User-Agent: Gnus/5.13 (Gnus v5.13) Emacs/25.1.50 (gnu/linux) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain X-Spam-Score: 0.0 (/) X-Debbugs-Envelope-To: 23208 Cc: 23208@debbugs.gnu.org X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18 Precedence: list List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Sender: "Debbugs-submit" X-Spam-Score: 0.0 (/) Eli Zaretskii writes: >> From: Lars Magne Ingebrigtsen >> Date: Sun, 03 Apr 2016 20:59:43 +0200 >> >> I'm pretty sure that it didn't work in the olden days, too, but it was >> fixed a few years ago. And now it doesn't work again. > > It does here. > > Do you have INFOPATH set in the environment? (getenv "INFOPATH") => nil >> `C-h i' should default to .../info/dir if no dir file exists in >> `Info-directory-list'. > > What do you have in Info-default-directory-list, upon starting an > uninstalled Emacs? Hm... d'oh! I was setting `Info-directory-list' in my .emacs. Sorry for the noise; closing. -- (domestic pets only, the antidote for overdose, milk.) bloggy blog: http://lars.ingebrigtsen.no From debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Sun Apr 03 15:13:05 2016 Received: (at control) by debbugs.gnu.org; 3 Apr 2016 19:13:05 +0000 Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:50293 helo=debbugs.gnu.org) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1amnSK-00065p-Vb for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Sun, 03 Apr 2016 15:13:05 -0400 Received: from hermes.netfonds.no ([80.91.224.195]:59878) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1amnSJ-00065i-JB for control@debbugs.gnu.org; Sun, 03 Apr 2016 15:13:03 -0400 Received: from cm-84.215.1.64.getinternet.no ([84.215.1.64] helo=stories) by hermes.netfonds.no with esmtpsa (TLS1.2:DHE_RSA_AES_128_CBC_SHA1:128) (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1amnSH-0008SJ-Fz for control@debbugs.gnu.org; Sun, 03 Apr 2016 21:13:03 +0200 Date: Sun, 03 Apr 2016 21:13:01 +0200 Message-Id: To: control@debbugs.gnu.org From: Lars Magne Ingebrigtsen Subject: control message for bug #23208 X-Spam-Score: 0.0 (/) X-Debbugs-Envelope-To: control X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18 Precedence: list List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Sender: "Debbugs-submit" X-Spam-Score: 0.0 (/) tags 23208 notabug close 23208 From unknown Thu Aug 14 21:44:09 2025 Received: (at fakecontrol) by fakecontrolmessage; To: internal_control@debbugs.gnu.org From: Debbugs Internal Request Subject: Internal Control Message-Id: bug archived. 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