From debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Tue Mar 29 17:10:56 2016 Received: (at submit) by debbugs.gnu.org; 29 Mar 2016 21:10:56 +0000 Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:44153 helo=debbugs.gnu.org) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1al0ue-0002oz-92 for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Tue, 29 Mar 2016 17:10:56 -0400 Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([208.118.235.92]:35523) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1akx65-0003sc-13 for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Tue, 29 Mar 2016 13:06:29 -0400 Received: from Debian-exim by eggs.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1akx5y-0003K5-RV for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Tue, 29 Mar 2016 13:06:23 -0400 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.3.2 (2011-06-06) on eggs.gnu.org X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=0.8 required=5.0 tests=BAYES_50 autolearn=disabled version=3.3.2 Received: from lists.gnu.org ([2001:4830:134:3::11]:35395) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1akx5y-0003Jm-No for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Tue, 29 Mar 2016 13:06:22 -0400 Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([2001:4830:134:3::10]:54685) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1akx5x-0002pe-EU for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Tue, 29 Mar 2016 13:06:22 -0400 Received: from Debian-exim by eggs.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1akx5t-0003HD-CB for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Tue, 29 Mar 2016 13:06:21 -0400 Received: from smtprelay0040.hostedemail.com ([216.40.44.40]:59753 helo=smtprelay.hostedemail.com) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1akx5t-0003GI-7p; Tue, 29 Mar 2016 13:06:17 -0400 Received: from filter.hostedemail.com (unknown [216.40.38.60]) by smtprelay05.hostedemail.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id D2A312691B4; Tue, 29 Mar 2016 17:06:14 +0000 (UTC) X-Session-Marker: 796F6E69407261626B696E732E6E6574 X-HE-Tag: crown21_19469d2821318 X-Filterd-Recvd-Size: 1482 Received: from yrk-ThinkPad-T410.rabkins.net (c-50-189-99-166.hsd1.nh.comcast.net [50.189.99.166]) (Authenticated sender: yoni@rabkins.net) by omf11.hostedemail.com (Postfix) with ESMTPA; Tue, 29 Mar 2016 17:06:13 +0000 (UTC) From: Yoni Rabkin To: Nicolas Petton Subject: Re: New iteration on the Emacs homepage References: <87y4c1f6tl.fsf@petton.fr> X-Ethics: Use GNU Date: Tue, 29 Mar 2016 13:06:11 -0400 In-Reply-To: <87y4c1f6tl.fsf@petton.fr> (Nicolas Petton's message of "Thu, 07 Jan 2016 21:55:18 +0100") Message-ID: <87h9fpuscc.fsf@rabkins.net> User-Agent: Gnus/5.13 (Gnus v5.13) Emacs/25.0.92 (gnu/linux) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain X-detected-operating-system: by eggs.gnu.org: GNU/Linux 3.x X-detected-operating-system: by eggs.gnu.org: GNU/Linux 2.6.x X-Received-From: 2001:4830:134:3::11 X-Spam-Score: -5.0 (-----) X-Debbugs-Envelope-To: submit X-Mailman-Approved-At: Tue, 29 Mar 2016 17:10:54 -0400 Cc: bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org, emacs-devel X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18 Precedence: list List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Sender: "Debbugs-submit" X-Spam-Score: -5.0 (-----) The new emacs site at www.gnu.org/software/emacs links to emacsrocks.com. But emacsrocks.com has non-free javascript on it in the form of Google Analytics. >From the source of emacsrocks.com: """ (function() { var ga = document.createElement('script'); ga.type = 'text/javascript'; ga.async = true; ga.src = ('https:' == document.location.protocol ? 'https://ssl' : 'http://www') + '.google-analytics.com/ga.js'; var s = document.getElementsByTagName('script')[0]; s.parentNode.insertBefore(ga, s); })(); """ This is a problem. Either emacsrocks.com needs to stop using non-free JS, or the FSF should remove that link. -- "Cut your own wood and it will warm you twice" From debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Tue Mar 29 17:19:28 2016 Received: (at control) by debbugs.gnu.org; 29 Mar 2016 21:19:28 +0000 Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:44179 helo=debbugs.gnu.org) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1al12u-00033o-IW for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Tue, 29 Mar 2016 17:19:28 -0400 Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([208.118.235.92]:57675) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1al12t-00033b-Ip for control@debbugs.gnu.org; Tue, 29 Mar 2016 17:19:27 -0400 Received: from Debian-exim by eggs.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1al12n-0006OF-UV for control@debbugs.gnu.org; Tue, 29 Mar 2016 17:19:22 -0400 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.3.2 (2011-06-06) on eggs.gnu.org X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-2.9 required=5.0 tests=BAYES_00,RP_MATCHES_RCVD autolearn=disabled version=3.3.2 Received: from fencepost.gnu.org ([2001:4830:134:3::e]:41153) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1al12n-0006OB-S4 for control@debbugs.gnu.org; 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Wed, 30 Mar 2016 04:08:17 -0400 (EDT) From: Nicolas Petton To: Yoni Rabkin Subject: Re: New iteration on the Emacs homepage In-Reply-To: <878u11uqh0.fsf@rabkins.net> References: <87y4c1f6tl.fsf@petton.fr> <87h9fpuscc.fsf@rabkins.net> <87lh51dwrg.fsf@petton.fr> <878u11uqh0.fsf@rabkins.net> User-Agent: Notmuch/0.21 (http://notmuchmail.org) Emacs/25.1.50.1 (x86_64-unknown-linux-gnu) Date: Wed, 30 Mar 2016 10:08:16 +0200 Message-ID: <87k2kks80f.fsf@petton.fr> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/signed; boundary="=-=-="; micalg=pgp-sha256; protocol="application/pgp-signature" X-detected-operating-system: by eggs.gnu.org: GNU/Linux 2.2.x-3.x [generic] X-detected-operating-system: by eggs.gnu.org: GNU/Linux 2.6.x X-Received-From: 2001:4830:134:3::11 X-Spam-Score: -5.0 (-----) X-Debbugs-Envelope-To: submit Cc: bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org, emacs-devel X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18 Precedence: list List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Sender: "Debbugs-submit" X-Spam-Score: -5.0 (-----) --=-=-= Content-Type: text/plain Yoni Rabkin writes: > As long as we are on this topic, someone has just pointed out to me (on > #fsf IRC) that the CSS files are being served from third-party servers, > namely: > > https://code.cdn.mozilla.net/fonts/fira.css > https://maxcdn.bootstrapcdn.com/font-awesome/4.5.0/css/font-awesome.min.css I removed the second one (it was unused). > I feel like it would be better if those CSS files would be served from > fsf-controlled URLs like static.fsf.org, so that the FSF has control > over them. I can do that. > This would have the additional benefit of not leaking information about > anyone visiting fsf.org to third-parties. But it has a cost too: it won't be served by the Mozilla CDN, and we'll have to maintain this file. Nico --=-=-= Content-Type: application/pgp-signature; name="signature.asc" -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v2 Comment: GPGTools - http://gpgtools.org iQEcBAEBCAAGBQJW+4lwAAoJECM1h6R8IHkQs+oH/0e9VAF/AFz56lGIRFt+8DNB 6uQm5K901DdYsOXfDOKOVVb3eRVGuPCkiBXE08sdefKdp3MGuETcOIzpjTEeN9p/ hYNOhT97cR2EP14+onGgTn2XNwmlAUEmFraoZS22+MM+lysBUQQEGnOgVC7zo1AW 1odqAbTYTxWTi00IEvOrY0Zpw1pAfXLdUApUau4+7GtYpCEZutBXQ27wUXEcGYbB j/6flOrTXt4uN1T/QQo55KW7pAymznzGjFYdS0MG3YH9y3n5uQ/iAACVY/3sTirA 6TLzL+pGtfIpkpO5O3LYkNSQBEarmjeMg/d1tDZWhdmchU9PcW6LiN7ofFtq1wg= =kMOB -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --=-=-=-- From debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Wed Mar 30 07:42:02 2016 Received: (at submit) by debbugs.gnu.org; 30 Mar 2016 11:42:02 +0000 Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:44561 helo=debbugs.gnu.org) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1alEVW-0003Ph-Lg for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Wed, 30 Mar 2016 07:42:02 -0400 Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([208.118.235.92]:52969) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1alEVV-0003PV-IG for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Wed, 30 Mar 2016 07:41:54 -0400 Received: from Debian-exim by eggs.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1alEVD-0003FP-SO for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Wed, 30 Mar 2016 07:41:48 -0400 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.3.2 (2011-06-06) on eggs.gnu.org X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=0.8 required=5.0 tests=BAYES_50 autolearn=disabled version=3.3.2 Received: from lists.gnu.org ([2001:4830:134:3::11]:56625) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1alEVD-0003FL-PP for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Wed, 30 Mar 2016 07:41:35 -0400 Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([2001:4830:134:3::10]:43402) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1alEV0-0006is-NU for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Wed, 30 Mar 2016 07:41:35 -0400 Received: from Debian-exim by eggs.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1alEUB-0002tL-I4 for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Wed, 30 Mar 2016 07:41:22 -0400 Received: from smtprelay0217.hostedemail.com ([216.40.44.217]:57343 helo=smtprelay.hostedemail.com) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1alEUB-0002tH-An; Wed, 30 Mar 2016 07:40:31 -0400 Received: from filter.hostedemail.com (unknown [216.40.38.60]) by smtprelay08.hostedemail.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 79B7A29DDE4; Wed, 30 Mar 2016 11:40:29 +0000 (UTC) X-Session-Marker: 796F6E69407261626B696E732E6E6574 X-HE-Tag: glove75_434c0538bb49 X-Filterd-Recvd-Size: 2041 Received: from yrk-ThinkPad-T410.rabkins.net (c-50-189-99-166.hsd1.nh.comcast.net [50.189.99.166]) (Authenticated sender: yoni@rabkins.net) by omf06.hostedemail.com (Postfix) with ESMTPA; Wed, 30 Mar 2016 11:40:28 +0000 (UTC) From: Yoni Rabkin To: Nicolas Petton Subject: Re: New iteration on the Emacs homepage In-Reply-To: <87k2kks80f.fsf@petton.fr> (Nicolas Petton's message of "Wed, 30 Mar 2016 10:08:16 +0200") References: <87y4c1f6tl.fsf@petton.fr> <87h9fpuscc.fsf@rabkins.net> <87lh51dwrg.fsf@petton.fr> <878u11uqh0.fsf@rabkins.net> <87k2kks80f.fsf@petton.fr> User-Agent: Gnus/5.13 (Gnus v5.13) Emacs/25.0.92 (gnu/linux) X-Ethics: Use GNU Date: Wed, 30 Mar 2016 07:40:27 -0400 Message-ID: <87y490tcr8.fsf@rabkins.net> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain X-detected-operating-system: by eggs.gnu.org: GNU/Linux 3.x X-detected-operating-system: by eggs.gnu.org: GNU/Linux 2.6.x X-Received-From: 2001:4830:134:3::11 X-Spam-Score: -5.0 (-----) X-Debbugs-Envelope-To: submit Cc: bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org, emacs-devel X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18 Precedence: list List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Sender: "Debbugs-submit" X-Spam-Score: 0.0 (/) Nicolas Petton writes: > Yoni Rabkin writes: > >> As long as we are on this topic, someone has just pointed out to me (on >> #fsf IRC) that the CSS files are being served from third-party servers, >> namely: >> >> https://code.cdn.mozilla.net/fonts/fira.css >> https://maxcdn.bootstrapcdn.com/font-awesome/4.5.0/css/font-awesome.min.css > > I removed the second one (it was unused). > >> I feel like it would be better if those CSS files would be served from >> fsf-controlled URLs like static.fsf.org, so that the FSF has control >> over them. > > I can do that. > >> This would have the additional benefit of not leaking information about >> anyone visiting fsf.org to third-parties. > > But it has a cost too: it won't be served by the Mozilla CDN, and > we'll have to maintain this file. The marginal cost of maintaining one extra file when the FSF is already maintaining such a large website is well... marginal. But it's a matter of policy. The real question is whether the FSF are ok with it on principle. -- "Cut your own wood and it will warm you twice" From debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Thu Mar 31 03:56:54 2016 Received: (at submit) by debbugs.gnu.org; 31 Mar 2016 07:56:55 +0000 Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:45726 helo=debbugs.gnu.org) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1alXTK-000723-Ne for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Thu, 31 Mar 2016 03:56:54 -0400 Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([208.118.235.92]:33543) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1alXTJ-00071q-44 for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Thu, 31 Mar 2016 03:56:53 -0400 Received: from Debian-exim by eggs.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1alXTD-0006wu-DX for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Thu, 31 Mar 2016 03:56:48 -0400 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.3.2 (2011-06-06) on eggs.gnu.org X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-2.9 required=5.0 tests=BAYES_00,RP_MATCHES_RCVD autolearn=disabled version=3.3.2 Received: from lists.gnu.org ([2001:4830:134:3::11]:48785) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1alXTD-0006wg-Aa for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Thu, 31 Mar 2016 03:56:47 -0400 Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([2001:4830:134:3::10]:52734) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1alXTC-0001TC-Cq for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Thu, 31 Mar 2016 03:56:47 -0400 Received: from Debian-exim by eggs.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1alXTB-0006th-ID for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Thu, 31 Mar 2016 03:56:46 -0400 Received: from fencepost.gnu.org ([2001:4830:134:3::e]:56479) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1alXT4-0006iz-Q6; Thu, 31 Mar 2016 03:56:38 -0400 Received: from rms by fencepost.gnu.org with local (Exim 4.82) (envelope-from ) id 1alXT4-0000X9-0s; Thu, 31 Mar 2016 03:56:38 -0400 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=Utf-8 From: Richard Stallman To: Nicolas Petton In-reply-to: <87k2kks80f.fsf@petton.fr> (message from Nicolas Petton on Wed, 30 Mar 2016 10:08:16 +0200) Subject: Re: New iteration on the Emacs homepage References: <87y4c1f6tl.fsf@petton.fr> <87h9fpuscc.fsf@rabkins.net> <87lh51dwrg.fsf@petton.fr> <878u11uqh0.fsf@rabkins.net> <87k2kks80f.fsf@petton.fr> Message-Id: Date: Thu, 31 Mar 2016 03:56:38 -0400 X-detected-operating-system: by eggs.gnu.org: GNU/Linux 2.2.x-3.x [generic] X-detected-operating-system: by eggs.gnu.org: GNU/Linux 2.6.x X-Received-From: 2001:4830:134:3::11 X-Spam-Score: -6.0 (------) X-Debbugs-Envelope-To: submit Cc: bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org, yoni@rabkins.net, emacs-devel@gnu.org X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18 Precedence: list List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Reply-To: rms@gnu.org Errors-To: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Sender: "Debbugs-submit" X-Spam-Score: -6.0 (------) [[[ To any NSA and FBI agents reading my email: please consider ]]] [[[ whether defending the US Constitution against all enemies, ]]] [[[ foreign or domestic, requires you to follow Snowden's example. ]]] > > This would have the additional benefit of not leaking information about > > anyone visiting fsf.org to third-parties. > But it has a cost too: it won't be served by the Mozilla CDN, and we'll > have to maintain this file. That's a secondary issue. Autonomy of our site is more important. -- Dr Richard Stallman President, Free Software Foundation (gnu.org, fsf.org) Internet Hall-of-Famer (internethalloffame.org) Skype: No way! See stallman.org/skype.html. From debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Thu Mar 31 04:03:12 2016 Received: (at submit) by debbugs.gnu.org; 31 Mar 2016 08:03:12 +0000 Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:45736 helo=debbugs.gnu.org) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1alXZQ-0007D0-Ks for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Thu, 31 Mar 2016 04:03:12 -0400 Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([208.118.235.92]:36877) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1alXZP-0007Ci-SM for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Thu, 31 Mar 2016 04:03:12 -0400 Received: from Debian-exim by eggs.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1alXZG-0000ei-Tc for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Thu, 31 Mar 2016 04:03:06 -0400 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.3.2 (2011-06-06) on eggs.gnu.org X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-0.5 required=5.0 tests=BAYES_05,T_DKIM_INVALID autolearn=disabled version=3.3.2 Received: from lists.gnu.org ([2001:4830:134:3::11]:41583) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1alXZG-0000ea-RU for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Thu, 31 Mar 2016 04:03:02 -0400 Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([2001:4830:134:3::10]:56048) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1alXZC-0002nE-TW for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Thu, 31 Mar 2016 04:03:02 -0400 Received: from Debian-exim by eggs.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1alXZ7-0000ds-9N for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Thu, 31 Mar 2016 04:02:58 -0400 Received: from out4-smtp.messagingengine.com ([66.111.4.28]:53175) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1alXZ7-0000dS-5s for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Thu, 31 Mar 2016 04:02:53 -0400 Received: from compute5.internal (compute5.nyi.internal [10.202.2.45]) by mailout.nyi.internal (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8017D20BF0 for ; Thu, 31 Mar 2016 04:02:51 -0400 (EDT) Received: from frontend1 ([10.202.2.160]) by compute5.internal (MEProxy); Thu, 31 Mar 2016 04:02:51 -0400 DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha1; c=relaxed/relaxed; d= messagingengine.com; h=cc:content-type:date:from:in-reply-to :message-id:mime-version:references:subject:to:x-sasl-enc :x-sasl-enc; s=smtpout; bh=sxO3ysyfVb33YevlfmF4gSQSGvI=; b=BxdZ2 n/JA5CsAvUlxZWyJuIF1XKjMAWcSBQYAipWF2H2+7/KNp4ZV7dlQY/sONU3ZSUed MjA9QXBkotgC2xrBT8LWmbwJ0xbjL0NpEfJMYCIhHLvKajLUwm0IK7Dhv73jIufY LCyDykh3PijNusaBvLMp2LgLn+vTZkl1dZ5HcE= X-Sasl-enc: M38aF/aHGmba3nV7+06iXGKkg715gWWblW35JDu3FW8Q 1459411371 Received: from blueberry (89-156-196-194.rev.numericable.fr [89.156.196.194]) by mail.messagingengine.com (Postfix) with ESMTPA id BA864C00013; Thu, 31 Mar 2016 04:02:50 -0400 (EDT) From: Nicolas Petton To: rms@gnu.org Subject: Re: New iteration on the Emacs homepage In-Reply-To: References: <87y4c1f6tl.fsf@petton.fr> <87h9fpuscc.fsf@rabkins.net> <87lh51dwrg.fsf@petton.fr> <878u11uqh0.fsf@rabkins.net> <87k2kks80f.fsf@petton.fr> User-Agent: Notmuch/0.21 (http://notmuchmail.org) Emacs/25.1.50.1 (x86_64-unknown-linux-gnu) Date: Thu, 31 Mar 2016 10:02:48 +0200 Message-ID: <878u0zqdlj.fsf@petton.fr> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/signed; boundary="=-=-="; micalg=pgp-sha256; protocol="application/pgp-signature" X-detected-operating-system: by eggs.gnu.org: GNU/Linux 2.2.x-3.x [generic] X-detected-operating-system: by eggs.gnu.org: GNU/Linux 2.6.x X-Received-From: 2001:4830:134:3::11 X-Spam-Score: -5.0 (-----) X-Debbugs-Envelope-To: submit Cc: bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org, yoni@rabkins.net, emacs-devel@gnu.org X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18 Precedence: list List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Sender: "Debbugs-submit" X-Spam-Score: -5.0 (-----) --=-=-= Content-Type: text/plain Richard Stallman writes: > [[[ To any NSA and FBI agents reading my email: please consider ]]] > [[[ whether defending the US Constitution against all enemies, ]]] > [[[ foreign or domestic, requires you to follow Snowden's example. ]]] > > > > This would have the additional benefit of not leaking information about > > > anyone visiting fsf.org to third-parties. > > > But it has a cost too: it won't be served by the Mozilla CDN, and we'll > > have to maintain this file. > > That's a secondary issue. Autonomy of our site is more important. I will change the CSS file to be served by us. Nico --=-=-= Content-Type: application/pgp-signature; name="signature.asc" -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v2 Comment: GPGTools - http://gpgtools.org iQEcBAEBCAAGBQJW/NmoAAoJECM1h6R8IHkQmLMH/22t4Gb/KtI7Kk5jgJB5QUJa 7mCMUawCdyQKNc7rhun4fzo73/bCxHbFOVXi96cpLVh4xrTaywbDPBTz95OuLCRY Cj2CUznBpAbR5iaaT04y8MSF+H8ReiR0a6ozny0sexRQ5xoO61/mo1oTQGEKSYiV 5Lcd/A0BiOZrjko1hX4ox3kBSrZYCf4uOK4Asxtf5ek67fePDOLf7PLsBY3mPb/h F3DyG8YH6L5qYd/kinI76Bn1qLiZwxAUYlAt3/xkXN0G5uY/Qv4aF7Qlfz5oPuGE 9ZCT5oWBDqFLws/odLdSPwHLph4OyaDZkrslIpTrxZk7bUb3VQGyt5vUwlsq+VQ= =l84h -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --=-=-=-- From debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Wed Apr 06 09:10:02 2016 Received: (at submit) by debbugs.gnu.org; 6 Apr 2016 13:10:02 +0000 Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:51137 helo=debbugs.gnu.org) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1annDX-0007hC-QU for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Wed, 06 Apr 2016 09:10:02 -0400 Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([208.118.235.92]:42853) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1annDW-0007h0-Cm for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Wed, 06 Apr 2016 09:09:54 -0400 Received: from Debian-exim by eggs.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1annDQ-0004gP-FF for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Wed, 06 Apr 2016 09:09:49 -0400 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.3.2 (2011-06-06) on eggs.gnu.org X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=0.8 required=5.0 tests=BAYES_50 autolearn=disabled version=3.3.2 Received: from lists.gnu.org ([2001:4830:134:3::11]:45256) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1annDQ-0004gA-CD for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Wed, 06 Apr 2016 09:09:48 -0400 Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([2001:4830:134:3::10]:33808) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1annDP-0008JD-EB for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Wed, 06 Apr 2016 09:09:48 -0400 Received: from Debian-exim by eggs.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1annDM-0004fT-7A for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Wed, 06 Apr 2016 09:09:47 -0400 Received: from smtprelay0134.hostedemail.com ([216.40.44.134]:49703 helo=smtprelay.hostedemail.com) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1annDM-0004fP-3D; Wed, 06 Apr 2016 09:09:44 -0400 Received: from filter.hostedemail.com (unknown [216.40.38.60]) by smtprelay02.hostedemail.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1660D12BA14; Wed, 6 Apr 2016 13:09:43 +0000 (UTC) X-Session-Marker: 796F6E69407261626B696E732E6E6574 X-HE-Tag: goose45_1a865ee234634 X-Filterd-Recvd-Size: 1935 Received: from yrk-ThinkPad-T410.rabkins.net (c-50-189-99-166.hsd1.nh.comcast.net [50.189.99.166]) (Authenticated sender: yoni@rabkins.net) by omf12.hostedemail.com (Postfix) with ESMTPA; Wed, 6 Apr 2016 13:09:42 +0000 (UTC) From: Yoni Rabkin To: Nicolas Petton Subject: Re: New iteration on the Emacs homepage References: <87y4c1f6tl.fsf@petton.fr> <87h9fpuscc.fsf@rabkins.net> <87lh51dwrg.fsf@petton.fr> <878u11uqh0.fsf@rabkins.net> <87k2kks80f.fsf@petton.fr> <878u0zqdlj.fsf@petton.fr> X-Ethics: Use GNU Date: Wed, 06 Apr 2016 09:09:41 -0400 In-Reply-To: <878u0zqdlj.fsf@petton.fr> (Nicolas Petton's message of "Thu, 31 Mar 2016 10:02:48 +0200") Message-ID: <877fganasq.fsf@rabkins.net> User-Agent: Gnus/5.13 (Gnus v5.13) Emacs/25.0.92 (gnu/linux) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain X-detected-operating-system: by eggs.gnu.org: GNU/Linux 3.x X-detected-operating-system: by eggs.gnu.org: GNU/Linux 2.6.x X-Received-From: 2001:4830:134:3::11 X-Spam-Score: -5.0 (-----) X-Debbugs-Envelope-To: submit Cc: bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org, rms@gnu.org, emacs-devel@gnu.org X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18 Precedence: list List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Sender: "Debbugs-submit" X-Spam-Score: -5.0 (-----) Nicolas Petton writes: > Richard Stallman writes: > >> [[[ To any NSA and FBI agents reading my email: please consider ]]] >> [[[ whether defending the US Constitution against all enemies, ]]] >> [[[ foreign or domestic, requires you to follow Snowden's example. ]]] >> >> > > This would have the additional benefit of not leaking information about >> > > anyone visiting fsf.org to third-parties. >> >> > But it has a cost too: it won't be served by the Mozilla CDN, and we'll >> > have to maintain this file. >> >> That's a secondary issue. Autonomy of our site is more important. > > I will change the CSS file to be served by us. As of this morning, the CSS files are still being served by code.cdn.mozilla.net. I'll check again in about a week. No judgment though; I just want to make sure that this doesn't fall between the cracks. -- "Cut your own wood and it will warm you twice" From debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Wed Apr 06 09:31:31 2016 Received: (at submit) by debbugs.gnu.org; 6 Apr 2016 13:31:31 +0000 Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:51144 helo=debbugs.gnu.org) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1annYM-0008Ca-NB for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Wed, 06 Apr 2016 09:31:31 -0400 Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([208.118.235.92]:47032) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1annYK-0008CK-Cd for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Wed, 06 Apr 2016 09:31:25 -0400 Received: from Debian-exim by eggs.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1annYB-0001AB-RM for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Wed, 06 Apr 2016 09:31:19 -0400 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.3.2 (2011-06-06) on eggs.gnu.org X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-0.5 required=5.0 tests=BAYES_05,T_DKIM_INVALID autolearn=disabled version=3.3.2 Received: from lists.gnu.org ([2001:4830:134:3::11]:52142) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1annYB-0001A5-OJ for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Wed, 06 Apr 2016 09:31:15 -0400 Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([2001:4830:134:3::10]:37959) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1annY7-0005xr-Q4 for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Wed, 06 Apr 2016 09:31:15 -0400 Received: from Debian-exim by eggs.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1annY2-00017y-0z for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Wed, 06 Apr 2016 09:31:11 -0400 Received: from out5-smtp.messagingengine.com ([66.111.4.29]:59087) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1annY1-00017l-Tj for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Wed, 06 Apr 2016 09:31:05 -0400 Received: from compute2.internal (compute2.nyi.internal [10.202.2.42]) by mailout.nyi.internal (Postfix) with ESMTP id 529F7211D8 for ; Wed, 6 Apr 2016 09:31:04 -0400 (EDT) Received: from frontend1 ([10.202.2.160]) by compute2.internal (MEProxy); Wed, 06 Apr 2016 09:31:04 -0400 DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha1; c=relaxed/relaxed; d= messagingengine.com; h=cc:content-type:date:from:in-reply-to :message-id:mime-version:references:subject:to:x-sasl-enc :x-sasl-enc; s=smtpout; bh=c1WmcW/rsUCuMrlyFpA1/2I0pe0=; b=i37W9 Zc/NYD+Lce3adLFQ4aqYC5BsEz5ppxlq/r9lHxjV7MejF+mp3UHy7COraBW2i5/1 b6DQZl5hvVSvKCvV6fd6s+xg5Kon39KD5nlPdSgmR/GinNCAWQpw8xEYPyxORX5f qOBY8L1v0o6+6DBmblpxnCjiHwbNOcO01bEj4E= X-Sasl-enc: ZqFqKV5lsz6ZGsY/yvuM35L+cuNG8WrNu/kacQOhaSii 1459949463 Received: from blueberry (89-156-196-194.rev.numericable.fr [89.156.196.194]) by mail.messagingengine.com (Postfix) with ESMTPA id 1AE4BC00014; Wed, 6 Apr 2016 09:31:03 -0400 (EDT) From: Nicolas Petton To: Yoni Rabkin Subject: Re: New iteration on the Emacs homepage In-Reply-To: <877fganasq.fsf@rabkins.net> References: <87y4c1f6tl.fsf@petton.fr> <87h9fpuscc.fsf@rabkins.net> <87lh51dwrg.fsf@petton.fr> <878u11uqh0.fsf@rabkins.net> <87k2kks80f.fsf@petton.fr> <878u0zqdlj.fsf@petton.fr> <877fganasq.fsf@rabkins.net> User-Agent: Notmuch/0.21 (http://notmuchmail.org) Emacs/25.1.50.1 (x86_64-unknown-linux-gnu) Date: Wed, 06 Apr 2016 15:31:01 +0200 Message-ID: <87h9felv8q.fsf@petton.fr> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/signed; boundary="=-=-="; micalg=pgp-sha256; protocol="application/pgp-signature" X-detected-operating-system: by eggs.gnu.org: GNU/Linux 2.2.x-3.x [generic] X-detected-operating-system: by eggs.gnu.org: GNU/Linux 2.6.x X-Received-From: 2001:4830:134:3::11 X-Spam-Score: -5.0 (-----) X-Debbugs-Envelope-To: submit Cc: bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org, rms@gnu.org, emacs-devel@gnu.org X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18 Precedence: list List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Sender: "Debbugs-submit" X-Spam-Score: -5.0 (-----) --=-=-= Content-Type: text/plain Yoni Rabkin writes: > As of this morning, the CSS files are still being served by > code.cdn.mozilla.net. I'll check again in about a week. I'm making various improvements, and this is in my list, but things take time :) Nico --=-=-= Content-Type: application/pgp-signature; name="signature.asc" -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v2 Comment: GPGTools - http://gpgtools.org iQEcBAEBCAAGBQJXBQ+VAAoJECM1h6R8IHkQtjwH/iJD4U0ae2INPcpISWHRut3J s7TvU1U6XBwwZQEHg7fJwUVnN2dNNdwZfT5ap1JT54Xh2JSYbNG4kNwqphDHsdj4 q6IGVIAJSlKAvnJS9v1qMQuSptIleyTl+sudrPRP07PTtaW0uwcZ1xrY+lDk4Am3 n4rgsoRcAWYodSyrOam/0PT/fZoP32iQeS6M51yGhphDypiq2U7PKbVrTYswGirl uw1jxmZC3VhdxmtatqbsK3vcC5fYGRi1j9LBX6ORJUZ/wtuGxL9/4QeYzRqDsqkU W0lk1SDgZIv3oRgIMOAAKmlnK9toE3kFYvjhwa20AnkhIKEGeOxggdoVgBNNGHo= =emzF -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --=-=-=-- From unknown Mon Aug 18 19:23:04 2025 Received: (at fakecontrol) by fakecontrolmessage; To: internal_control@debbugs.gnu.org From: Debbugs Internal Request Subject: Internal Control Message-Id: bug archived. 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