Package: emacs;
Reported by: Lars Magne Ingebrigtsen <larsi <at> gnus.org>
Date: Tue, 29 Mar 2016 15:37:01 UTC
Severity: wishlist
Tags: wontfix
Found in version 25.1.50
Done: npostavs <at> users.sourceforge.net
Bug is archived. No further changes may be made.
Message #5 received at submit <at> debbugs.gnu.org (full text, mbox):
From: Lars Magne Ingebrigtsen <larsi <at> gnus.org> To: bug-gnu-emacs <at> gnu.org Subject: 25.1.50; Emacs should have a convenient command for saving unchanged buffers Date: Tue, 29 Mar 2016 17:36:23 +0200
During an unrelated discussion on emacs-devel, it turns out that virtually everybody is in the habit of making a change, then deleting the change, just to make `C-x C-s' work. This means that there is a need for Emacs to offer a command to save buffers, even if they aren't changed. (All the electricity in the Emacs modes means that even if you find typing `SPC DEL C-x C-s' convenient, sometimes it makes Stuff Happens, and that DEL doesn't really undo what you've done.) Several options exist: 1) Have the interactive `C-x C-s' command always save the buffer, no matter whether it's unchanged or not. I think many people would object to this, as they're used to just `C-x C-s'-ing idly while thinking of other things. 2) Have the prefix to that command save the unchanged buffer. This would be the obvious choice, but: -------------- (save-buffer &optional ARG) Save current buffer in visited file if modified. Variations are described below. By default, makes the previous version into a backup file if previously requested or if this is the first save. Prefixed with one C-u, marks this version to become a backup when the next save is done. Prefixed with two C-u’s, unconditionally makes the previous version into a backup file. Prefixed with three C-u’s, marks this version to become a backup when the next save is done, and unconditionally makes the previous version into a backup file. -------------- Eh. Four `C-u's? I don't think so. We could bind `C-x C-s' to a new `save-buffer-command' that has different prefix rules. Does anybody use the backup stuff? 3) Add a new keystroke. 4) Something else. 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