From debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Mon Mar 28 17:17:02 2016 Received: (at submit) by debbugs.gnu.org; 28 Mar 2016 21:17:02 +0000 Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:42433 helo=debbugs.gnu.org) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1akeX0-0003Wd-4U for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Mon, 28 Mar 2016 17:17:02 -0400 Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([208.118.235.92]:41430) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1akeWz-0003WH-1h for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Mon, 28 Mar 2016 17:17:01 -0400 Received: from Debian-exim by eggs.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1akeWs-0004uo-4l for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Mon, 28 Mar 2016 17:16:55 -0400 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.3.2 (2011-06-06) on eggs.gnu.org X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=0.8 required=5.0 tests=BAYES_50 autolearn=disabled version=3.3.2 Received: from lists.gnu.org ([2001:4830:134:3::11]:41618) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1akeWs-0004uf-1L for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Mon, 28 Mar 2016 17:16:54 -0400 Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([2001:4830:134:3::10]:60596) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1akeWq-0008OZ-DM for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Mon, 28 Mar 2016 17:16:53 -0400 Received: from Debian-exim by eggs.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1akeWn-0004tj-5C for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Mon, 28 Mar 2016 17:16:52 -0400 Received: from mx0.mattleach.net ([176.58.118.143]:57356) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1akeWm-0004tY-SH for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Mon, 28 Mar 2016 17:16:49 -0400 Received: by mx0.mattleach.net (Postfix, from userid 99) id 2F5696222E; Mon, 28 Mar 2016 22:16:48 +0100 (BST) Received: from spline.mattleach.net (host81-159-23-200.range81-159.btcentralplus.com [81.159.23.200]) by mx0.mattleach.net (Postfix) with ESMTPSA id B01EC62225 for ; Mon, 28 Mar 2016 22:16:43 +0100 (BST) From: Matthew Leach To: bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org Subject: 25.1.50; Subpixel rendering is broken when not running under gnome-session Date: Mon, 28 Mar 2016 22:16:45 +0100 Message-ID: <87k2kme20y.fsf@mattleach.net> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="=-=-=" X-detected-operating-system: by eggs.gnu.org: GNU/Linux 2.2.x-3.x [generic] X-detected-operating-system: by eggs.gnu.org: GNU/Linux 2.6.x X-Received-From: 2001:4830:134:3::11 X-Spam-Score: -5.0 (-----) X-Debbugs-Envelope-To: submit X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18 Precedence: list List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Sender: "Debbugs-submit" X-Spam-Score: -5.0 (-----) --=-=-= Content-Type: text/plain Hi all, I sometimes switch between two WMs, namely i3 and GNOME3. I've noticed that under GNOME3, the font rendering in Emacs seems to be, in my opinion, nicer than in i3. The difference is that under GNOME3 Emacs uses subpixel rendering and not in i3. I've tried several configs to get subpixel rendering working in Emacs under i3: fontconfig and ~/.Xresources (attached). Unfortunately, Emacs doesn't conform and still doesn't use subpixel rendering even though most other applications (gnome-terminal, rhythmbox, firefox, etc...) do. I tried running i3 under gnome-session as described at [1] and strangely this fixes the issue! Why would running Emacs under gnome-session fix this? 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Mon, 28 Mar 2016 22:32:28 -0400 Received: from 84.94.185.246.cable.012.net.il ([84.94.185.246]:1349 helo=home-c4e4a596f7) by fencepost.gnu.org with esmtpsa (TLS1.2:RSA_AES_128_CBC_SHA1:128) (Exim 4.82) (envelope-from ) id 1akjSF-0007vy-Ej; Mon, 28 Mar 2016 22:32:27 -0400 Date: Tue, 29 Mar 2016 05:32:10 +0300 Message-Id: <83twjqvwt1.fsf@gnu.org> From: Eli Zaretskii To: Matthew Leach In-reply-to: <87k2kme20y.fsf@mattleach.net> (message from Matthew Leach on Mon, 28 Mar 2016 22:16:45 +0100) Subject: Re: bug#23137: 25.1.50; Subpixel rendering is broken when not running under gnome-session References: <87k2kme20y.fsf@mattleach.net> X-detected-operating-system: by eggs.gnu.org: GNU/Linux 2.2.x-3.x [generic] X-Received-From: 2001:4830:134:3::e X-Spam-Score: -6.0 (------) X-Debbugs-Envelope-To: 23137 Cc: 23137@debbugs.gnu.org X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18 Precedence: list List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Reply-To: Eli Zaretskii Errors-To: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Sender: "Debbugs-submit" X-Spam-Score: -6.0 (------) > From: Matthew Leach > Date: Mon, 28 Mar 2016 22:16:45 +0100 > > I sometimes switch between two WMs, namely i3 and GNOME3. I've noticed > that under GNOME3, the font rendering in Emacs seems to be, in my > opinion, nicer than in i3. The difference is that under GNOME3 Emacs > uses subpixel rendering and not in i3. What is "subpixel rendering"? From debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Tue Mar 29 03:05:28 2016 Received: (at 23137) by debbugs.gnu.org; 29 Mar 2016 07:05:28 +0000 Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:42779 helo=debbugs.gnu.org) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1akniS-0002ZF-8m for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Tue, 29 Mar 2016 03:05:28 -0400 Received: from mx0.mattleach.net ([176.58.118.143]:35438) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1akniQ-0002Z7-IP for 23137@debbugs.gnu.org; Tue, 29 Mar 2016 03:05:27 -0400 Received: by mx0.mattleach.net (Postfix, from userid 99) id A4E106222E; Tue, 29 Mar 2016 08:05:25 +0100 (BST) X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.4.1 (2015-04-28) on mx0.mattleach.net X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-1.0 required=4.0 tests=ALL_TRUSTED,URIBL_BLOCKED autolearn=disabled version=3.4.1 Received: from spline.mattleach.net (host81-159-23-200.range81-159.btcentralplus.com [81.159.23.200]) by mx0.mattleach.net (Postfix) with ESMTPSA id 2B7B062224; Tue, 29 Mar 2016 08:05:19 +0100 (BST) From: Matthew Leach To: Eli Zaretskii Subject: Re: bug#23137: 25.1.50; Subpixel rendering is broken when not running under gnome-session In-Reply-To: <83twjqvwt1.fsf@gnu.org> (Eli Zaretskii's message of "Tue, 29 Mar 2016 05:32:10 +0300") References: <87k2kme20y.fsf@mattleach.net> <83twjqvwt1.fsf@gnu.org> User-Agent: Gnus/5.13 (Gnus v5.13) Emacs/25.1.50 (gnu/linux) Date: Tue, 29 Mar 2016 08:05:20 +0100 Message-ID: <87vb45hihb.fsf@mattleach.net> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain X-Spam-Score: -1.0 (-) X-Debbugs-Envelope-To: 23137 Cc: 23137@debbugs.gnu.org X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18 Precedence: list List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Sender: "Debbugs-submit" X-Spam-Score: -1.0 (-) Hi Eli, Eli Zaretskii writes: >> From: Matthew Leach >> Date: Mon, 28 Mar 2016 22:16:45 +0100 >> >> I sometimes switch between two WMs, namely i3 and GNOME3. I've noticed >> that under GNOME3, the font rendering in Emacs seems to be, in my >> opinion, nicer than in i3. The difference is that under GNOME3 Emacs >> uses subpixel rendering and not in i3. > > What is "subpixel rendering"? [1] gives an overview of what it is and the 'rgba' values in [2] show how to configure it. I think MS use the term ClearType on their Windows platform. Thanks, -- Matt [1]: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Subpixel_rendering [2]: http://linux.die.net/man/5/fonts-conf From debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Tue Mar 29 11:29:21 2016 Received: (at 23137) by debbugs.gnu.org; 29 Mar 2016 15:29:21 +0000 Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:43935 helo=debbugs.gnu.org) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1akva5-0008Jy-5e for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Tue, 29 Mar 2016 11:29:21 -0400 Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([208.118.235.92]:55389) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1akva3-0008Jl-RA for 23137@debbugs.gnu.org; Tue, 29 Mar 2016 11:29:20 -0400 Received: from Debian-exim by eggs.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1akvZv-0003T1-3I for 23137@debbugs.gnu.org; Tue, 29 Mar 2016 11:29:14 -0400 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.3.2 (2011-06-06) on eggs.gnu.org X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-1.0 required=5.0 tests=BAYES_40,RP_MATCHES_RCVD autolearn=disabled version=3.3.2 Received: from fencepost.gnu.org ([2001:4830:134:3::e]:60849) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1akvZv-0003Su-0j; Tue, 29 Mar 2016 11:29:11 -0400 Received: from 84.94.185.246.cable.012.net.il ([84.94.185.246]:1990 helo=home-c4e4a596f7) by fencepost.gnu.org with esmtpsa (TLS1.2:RSA_AES_128_CBC_SHA1:128) (Exim 4.82) (envelope-from ) id 1akvZu-0000JC-C2; Tue, 29 Mar 2016 11:29:10 -0400 Date: Tue, 29 Mar 2016 18:28:54 +0300 Message-Id: <83mvphwbex.fsf@gnu.org> From: Eli Zaretskii To: Matthew Leach In-reply-to: <87vb45hihb.fsf@mattleach.net> (message from Matthew Leach on Tue, 29 Mar 2016 08:05:20 +0100) Subject: Re: bug#23137: 25.1.50; Subpixel rendering is broken when not running under gnome-session References: <87k2kme20y.fsf@mattleach.net> <83twjqvwt1.fsf@gnu.org> <87vb45hihb.fsf@mattleach.net> X-detected-operating-system: by eggs.gnu.org: GNU/Linux 2.2.x-3.x [generic] X-Received-From: 2001:4830:134:3::e X-Spam-Score: -6.0 (------) X-Debbugs-Envelope-To: 23137 Cc: 23137@debbugs.gnu.org X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18 Precedence: list List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Reply-To: Eli Zaretskii Errors-To: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Sender: "Debbugs-submit" X-Spam-Score: -6.0 (------) > From: Matthew Leach > Cc: 23137@debbugs.gnu.org > Date: Tue, 29 Mar 2016 08:05:20 +0100 > > >> I sometimes switch between two WMs, namely i3 and GNOME3. I've noticed > >> that under GNOME3, the font rendering in Emacs seems to be, in my > >> opinion, nicer than in i3. The difference is that under GNOME3 Emacs > >> uses subpixel rendering and not in i3. > > > > What is "subpixel rendering"? > > [1] gives an overview of what it is and the 'rgba' values in [2] show > how to configure it. I think MS use the term ClearType on their Windows > platform. Then why do you think it's an Emacs problem? Are the binaries used on both machines from the same build? If not, please show the value of system-configuration-features from both builds. Thanks. From debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Tue Mar 29 17:13:22 2016 Received: (at 23137) by debbugs.gnu.org; 29 Mar 2016 21:13:23 +0000 Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:44170 helo=debbugs.gnu.org) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1al0x0-0002tw-M7 for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Tue, 29 Mar 2016 17:13:22 -0400 Received: from mx0.mattleach.net ([176.58.118.143]:38736) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1al0wz-0002to-7q for 23137@debbugs.gnu.org; Tue, 29 Mar 2016 17:13:21 -0400 Received: by mx0.mattleach.net (Postfix, from userid 99) id AF54261C50; Tue, 29 Mar 2016 22:13:20 +0100 (BST) X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.4.1 (2015-04-28) on mx0.mattleach.net X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-1.0 required=4.0 tests=ALL_TRUSTED,URIBL_BLOCKED autolearn=disabled version=3.4.1 Received: from spline.mattleach.net (host81-159-23-200.range81-159.btcentralplus.com [81.159.23.200]) by mx0.mattleach.net (Postfix) with ESMTPSA id 8CB7861C0B; Tue, 29 Mar 2016 22:13:18 +0100 (BST) From: Matthew Leach To: Eli Zaretskii Subject: Re: bug#23137: 25.1.50; Subpixel rendering is broken when not running under gnome-session In-Reply-To: <83mvphwbex.fsf@gnu.org> (Eli Zaretskii's message of "Tue, 29 Mar 2016 18:28:54 +0300") References: <87k2kme20y.fsf@mattleach.net> <83twjqvwt1.fsf@gnu.org> <87vb45hihb.fsf@mattleach.net> <83mvphwbex.fsf@gnu.org> User-Agent: Gnus/5.13 (Gnus v5.13) Emacs/25.1.50 (gnu/linux) Date: Tue, 29 Mar 2016 22:13:14 +0100 Message-ID: <8737r99edx.fsf@mattleach.net> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain X-Spam-Score: -1.0 (-) X-Debbugs-Envelope-To: 23137 Cc: 23137@debbugs.gnu.org X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18 Precedence: list List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Sender: "Debbugs-submit" X-Spam-Score: -1.0 (-) Eli Zaretskii writes: >> From: Matthew Leach >> Cc: 23137@debbugs.gnu.org >> Date: Tue, 29 Mar 2016 08:05:20 +0100 >> >> >> I sometimes switch between two WMs, namely i3 and GNOME3. I've noticed >> >> that under GNOME3, the font rendering in Emacs seems to be, in my >> >> opinion, nicer than in i3. The difference is that under GNOME3 Emacs >> >> uses subpixel rendering and not in i3. >> > >> > What is "subpixel rendering"? >> >> [1] gives an overview of what it is and the 'rgba' values in [2] show >> how to configure it. I think MS use the term ClearType on their Windows >> platform. > > Then why do you think it's an Emacs problem? I think it's an Emacs problem, because it is not behaving as configured, even though other GTK applications do. > Are the binaries used on both machines from the same build? Indeed, it is the same binary on the same machine, I just switch desktop environments. If I switch from i3 (an X11 WM) to GNOME3, Emacs uses subpixel rendering, whereas other packages use it under both scenarios. > If not, please show the value of system-configuration-features from > both builds. The value of this on my machine is: "XPM JPEG TIFF GIF PNG RSVG SOUND GPM DBUS GSETTINGS NOTIFY ACL GNUTLS LIBXML2 FREETYPE XFT ZLIB TOOLKIT_SCROLL_BARS GTK3 X11" Thanks, -- Matt From debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Tue Mar 29 22:46:40 2016 Received: (at 23137) by debbugs.gnu.org; 30 Mar 2016 02:46:40 +0000 Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:44413 helo=debbugs.gnu.org) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1al69Y-0004BJ-Cb for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Tue, 29 Mar 2016 22:46:40 -0400 Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([208.118.235.92]:32927) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1al69X-0004B7-0i for 23137@debbugs.gnu.org; Tue, 29 Mar 2016 22:46:39 -0400 Received: from Debian-exim by eggs.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1al69N-00048X-AW for 23137@debbugs.gnu.org; Tue, 29 Mar 2016 22:46:34 -0400 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.3.2 (2011-06-06) on eggs.gnu.org X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-1.5 required=5.0 tests=BAYES_05,RP_MATCHES_RCVD autolearn=disabled version=3.3.2 Received: from fencepost.gnu.org ([2001:4830:134:3::e]:48540) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1al69N-00048T-6v; Tue, 29 Mar 2016 22:46:29 -0400 Received: from 84.94.185.246.cable.012.net.il ([84.94.185.246]:3019 helo=home-c4e4a596f7) by fencepost.gnu.org with esmtpsa (TLS1.2:RSA_AES_128_CBC_SHA1:128) (Exim 4.82) (envelope-from ) id 1al69M-0003HY-G2; Tue, 29 Mar 2016 22:46:28 -0400 Date: Wed, 30 Mar 2016 05:46:14 +0300 Message-Id: <831t6swumh.fsf@gnu.org> From: Eli Zaretskii To: Matthew Leach In-reply-to: <8737r99edx.fsf@mattleach.net> (message from Matthew Leach on Tue, 29 Mar 2016 22:13:14 +0100) Subject: Re: bug#23137: 25.1.50; Subpixel rendering is broken when not running under gnome-session References: <87k2kme20y.fsf@mattleach.net> <83twjqvwt1.fsf@gnu.org> <87vb45hihb.fsf@mattleach.net> <83mvphwbex.fsf@gnu.org> <8737r99edx.fsf@mattleach.net> X-detected-operating-system: by eggs.gnu.org: GNU/Linux 2.2.x-3.x [generic] X-Received-From: 2001:4830:134:3::e X-Spam-Score: -6.0 (------) X-Debbugs-Envelope-To: 23137 Cc: 23137@debbugs.gnu.org X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18 Precedence: list List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Reply-To: Eli Zaretskii Errors-To: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Sender: "Debbugs-submit" X-Spam-Score: -6.0 (------) > From: Matthew Leach > Cc: 23137@debbugs.gnu.org > Date: Tue, 29 Mar 2016 22:13:14 +0100 > > Eli Zaretskii writes: > > >> > What is "subpixel rendering"? > >> > >> [1] gives an overview of what it is and the 'rgba' values in [2] show > >> how to configure it. I think MS use the term ClearType on their Windows > >> platform. > > > > Then why do you think it's an Emacs problem? > > I think it's an Emacs problem, because it is not behaving as configured, > even though other GTK applications do. What configuration options were supposed to tell Emacs to use subpixel rendering? From debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Thu Mar 31 03:34:50 2016 Received: (at 23137) by debbugs.gnu.org; 31 Mar 2016 07:34:50 +0000 Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:45711 helo=debbugs.gnu.org) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1alX7y-0006X2-D5 for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Thu, 31 Mar 2016 03:34:50 -0400 Received: from mx0.mattleach.net ([176.58.118.143]:45912) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1alX7w-0006Wu-OK for 23137@debbugs.gnu.org; Thu, 31 Mar 2016 03:34:49 -0400 Received: by mx0.mattleach.net (Postfix, from userid 99) id D0B846222E; Thu, 31 Mar 2016 08:34:47 +0100 (BST) X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.4.1 (2015-04-28) on mx0.mattleach.net X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-1.0 required=4.0 tests=ALL_TRUSTED,URIBL_BLOCKED autolearn=disabled version=3.4.1 Received: from spline.mattleach.net (host81-159-23-200.range81-159.btcentralplus.com [81.159.23.200]) by mx0.mattleach.net (Postfix) with ESMTPSA id A606B6222B; Thu, 31 Mar 2016 08:34:46 +0100 (BST) From: Matthew Leach To: Eli Zaretskii Subject: Re: bug#23137: 25.1.50; Subpixel rendering is broken when not running under gnome-session In-Reply-To: <831t6swumh.fsf@gnu.org> (Eli Zaretskii's message of "Wed, 30 Mar 2016 05:46:14 +0300") References: <87k2kme20y.fsf@mattleach.net> <83twjqvwt1.fsf@gnu.org> <87vb45hihb.fsf@mattleach.net> <83mvphwbex.fsf@gnu.org> <8737r99edx.fsf@mattleach.net> <831t6swumh.fsf@gnu.org> User-Agent: Gnus/5.13 (Gnus v5.13) Emacs/25.1.50 (gnu/linux) Date: Thu, 31 Mar 2016 08:34:47 +0100 Message-ID: <8760w3t814.fsf@mattleach.net> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="=-=-=" X-Spam-Score: -1.0 (-) X-Debbugs-Envelope-To: 23137 Cc: 23137@debbugs.gnu.org X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18 Precedence: list List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Sender: "Debbugs-submit" X-Spam-Score: -1.0 (-) --=-=-= Content-Type: text/plain Hi Eli, Eli Zaretskii writes: >> From: Matthew Leach >> Cc: 23137@debbugs.gnu.org >> Date: Tue, 29 Mar 2016 22:13:14 +0100 >> >> Eli Zaretskii writes: >> >> >> > What is "subpixel rendering"? >> >> >> >> [1] gives an overview of what it is and the 'rgba' values in [2] show >> >> how to configure it. I think MS use the term ClearType on their Windows >> >> platform. >> > >> > Then why do you think it's an Emacs problem? >> >> I think it's an Emacs problem, because it is not behaving as configured, >> even though other GTK applications do. > > What configuration options were supposed to tell Emacs to use subpixel > rendering? There are two: ~/.Xresources (attached). On some systems there is /etc/fonts/conf.avail/10-sub-pixel-*.conf and you can symlink one of those to /etc/fonts/conf.d (I have attached the one I use). The 'rgba' value in both configs controls subpixel rendering. 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What about one of 11-lcdfilter-*.conf? From debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Thu Mar 31 12:41:57 2016 Received: (at 23137) by debbugs.gnu.org; 31 Mar 2016 16:41:57 +0000 Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:46437 helo=debbugs.gnu.org) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1alffQ-0004f4-Qx for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Thu, 31 Mar 2016 12:41:56 -0400 Received: from mx0.mattleach.net ([176.58.118.143]:48714) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1alffP-0004ex-Lx for 23137@debbugs.gnu.org; Thu, 31 Mar 2016 12:41:56 -0400 Received: by mx0.mattleach.net (Postfix, from userid 99) id 0FE346222E; Thu, 31 Mar 2016 17:41:55 +0100 (BST) X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.4.1 (2015-04-28) on mx0.mattleach.net X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-1.0 required=4.0 tests=ALL_TRUSTED,URIBL_BLOCKED autolearn=disabled version=3.4.1 Received: from spline.mattleach.net (host81-159-23-200.range81-159.btcentralplus.com [81.159.23.200]) by mx0.mattleach.net (Postfix) with ESMTPSA id 7F1936222B; Thu, 31 Mar 2016 17:41:54 +0100 (BST) From: Matthew Leach To: Wolfgang Jenkner Subject: Re: bug#23137: 25.1.50; Subpixel rendering is broken when not running under gnome-session In-Reply-To: <85mvpefwsx.fsf@inode.at> (Wolfgang Jenkner's message of "Thu, 31 Mar 2016 18:10:58 +0200") References: <87k2kme20y.fsf@mattleach.net> <83twjqvwt1.fsf@gnu.org> <87vb45hihb.fsf@mattleach.net> <83mvphwbex.fsf@gnu.org> <8737r99edx.fsf@mattleach.net> <831t6swumh.fsf@gnu.org> <8760w3t814.fsf@mattleach.net> <85mvpefwsx.fsf@inode.at> User-Agent: Gnus/5.13 (Gnus v5.13) Emacs/25.1.50 (gnu/linux) Date: Thu, 31 Mar 2016 17:41:54 +0100 Message-ID: <87wpoiioq5.fsf@mattleach.net> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain X-Spam-Score: -1.0 (-) X-Debbugs-Envelope-To: 23137 Cc: Eli Zaretskii , 23137@debbugs.gnu.org X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18 Precedence: list List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Sender: "Debbugs-submit" X-Spam-Score: -1.0 (-) Wolfgang Jenkner writes: > On Thu, Mar 31 2016, Matthew Leach wrote: > >> On some systems there is >> /etc/fonts/conf.avail/10-sub-pixel-*.conf and you can symlink one of >> those to /etc/fonts/conf.d (I have attached the one I use). > > What about one of 11-lcdfilter-*.conf? Yes, I forgot about that one, sorry. I have 11-lcdfilter-default.conf active on my system. Thanks, -- Matt From debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Thu Mar 31 12:43:30 2016 Received: (at 23137) by debbugs.gnu.org; 31 Mar 2016 16:43:30 +0000 Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:46441 helo=debbugs.gnu.org) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1alfgw-0004hX-5X for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Thu, 31 Mar 2016 12:43:30 -0400 Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([208.118.235.92]:40393) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1alfgv-0004hM-4n for 23137@debbugs.gnu.org; Thu, 31 Mar 2016 12:43:29 -0400 Received: from Debian-exim by eggs.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1alfgm-0002hy-35 for 23137@debbugs.gnu.org; Thu, 31 Mar 2016 12:43:24 -0400 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.3.2 (2011-06-06) on eggs.gnu.org X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-0.2 required=5.0 tests=BAYES_50,RP_MATCHES_RCVD autolearn=disabled version=3.3.2 Received: from fencepost.gnu.org ([2001:4830:134:3::e]:38131) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1alfgl-0002hu-WF; Thu, 31 Mar 2016 12:43:20 -0400 Received: from 84.94.185.246.cable.012.net.il ([84.94.185.246]:1862 helo=home-c4e4a596f7) by fencepost.gnu.org with esmtpsa (TLS1.2:RSA_AES_128_CBC_SHA1:128) (Exim 4.82) (envelope-from ) id 1alfgl-0006Wh-A2; Thu, 31 Mar 2016 12:43:19 -0400 Date: Thu, 31 Mar 2016 19:43:08 +0300 Message-Id: <83fuv6vbs3.fsf@gnu.org> From: Eli Zaretskii To: Matthew Leach In-reply-to: <8760w3t814.fsf@mattleach.net> (message from Matthew Leach on Thu, 31 Mar 2016 08:34:47 +0100) Subject: Re: bug#23137: 25.1.50; Subpixel rendering is broken when not running under gnome-session References: <87k2kme20y.fsf@mattleach.net> <83twjqvwt1.fsf@gnu.org> <87vb45hihb.fsf@mattleach.net> <83mvphwbex.fsf@gnu.org> <8737r99edx.fsf@mattleach.net> <831t6swumh.fsf@gnu.org> <8760w3t814.fsf@mattleach.net> X-detected-operating-system: by eggs.gnu.org: GNU/Linux 2.2.x-3.x [generic] X-Received-From: 2001:4830:134:3::e X-Spam-Score: -6.0 (------) X-Debbugs-Envelope-To: 23137 Cc: 23137@debbugs.gnu.org X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18 Precedence: list List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Reply-To: Eli Zaretskii Errors-To: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Sender: "Debbugs-submit" X-Spam-Score: -6.0 (------) > From: Matthew Leach > Cc: 23137@debbugs.gnu.org > Date: Thu, 31 Mar 2016 08:34:47 +0100 > > > What configuration options were supposed to tell Emacs to use subpixel > > rendering? > > There are two: ~/.Xresources (attached). On some systems there is > /etc/fonts/conf.avail/10-sub-pixel-*.conf and you can symlink one of > those to /etc/fonts/conf.d (I have attached the one I use). The 'rgba' > value in both configs controls subpixel rendering. These are configuration files for software that is external to Emacs, so I still think the problem might be in the configuration of those other packages (fontconfig etc.), as I don't think Emacs reads these files directly. That's assuming you did make sure that the resources were read by X. And I'm really out of my depth here, so if double-checking the setup of fontconfig and stuff doesn't help, I'm afraid you will have to look for someone who really knows about this and could help you debug this. Sorry. From debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Tue Feb 08 01:53:40 2022 Received: (at 23137) by debbugs.gnu.org; 8 Feb 2022 06:53:40 +0000 Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:44973 helo=debbugs.gnu.org) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1nHKNg-0005r4-AV for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Tue, 08 Feb 2022 01:53:40 -0500 Received: from quimby.gnus.org ([95.216.78.240]:48712) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1nHKNe-0005qp-5g for 23137@debbugs.gnu.org; Tue, 08 Feb 2022 01:53:38 -0500 DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; q=dns/txt; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gnus.org; s=20200322; h=Content-Type:MIME-Version:Message-ID:In-Reply-To:Date: References:Subject:Cc:To:From:Sender:Reply-To:Content-Transfer-Encoding: Content-ID:Content-Description:Resent-Date:Resent-From:Resent-Sender: Resent-To:Resent-Cc:Resent-Message-ID:List-Id:List-Help:List-Unsubscribe: List-Subscribe:List-Post:List-Owner:List-Archive; bh=YlCuxDiJDdLRGHFFsg2GPn9Msu2a/7aIaBJfMZmq6FU=; b=E6WRStzwMRqxa/rP+1k8ae7kTM pptqSconXZkZtCSJ9+4uMbUHBGAFAOjQb4bKvnu5UDtoKrl0qQj/4H0VOFI/ukXkH1gNzUdTJDUz1 6Z6wZBWerQ28h+CkxQ8Y3wNLBropXKAiVef/0Ao+/rjKosHRdpL7jk//PlXD4562h15M=; Received: from [84.212.220.105] (helo=giant) by quimby.gnus.org with esmtpsa (TLS1.3:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.92) (envelope-from ) id 1nHKNU-00022E-AJ; Tue, 08 Feb 2022 07:53:31 +0100 From: Lars Ingebrigtsen To: Eli Zaretskii Subject: Re: bug#23137: 25.1.50; Subpixel rendering is broken when not running under gnome-session References: <87k2kme20y.fsf@mattleach.net> <83twjqvwt1.fsf@gnu.org> <87vb45hihb.fsf@mattleach.net> <83mvphwbex.fsf@gnu.org> <8737r99edx.fsf@mattleach.net> <831t6swumh.fsf@gnu.org> <8760w3t814.fsf@mattleach.net> <83fuv6vbs3.fsf@gnu.org> X-Now-Playing: Melanie de Biasio's _Lilies_: "And My Heart Goes On" Date: Tue, 08 Feb 2022 07:53:26 +0100 In-Reply-To: <83fuv6vbs3.fsf@gnu.org> (Eli Zaretskii's message of "Thu, 31 Mar 2016 19:43:08 +0300") Message-ID: <87iltpsvbt.fsf@gnus.org> User-Agent: Gnus/5.13 (Gnus v5.13) Emacs/29.0.50 (gnu/linux) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain X-Spam-Report: Spam detection software, running on the system "quimby.gnus.org", has NOT identified this incoming email as spam. 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Content preview: Eli Zaretskii writes: > And I'm really out of my depth here, so if double-checking the setup > of fontconfig and stuff doesn't help, I'm afraid you will have to look > for someone who really knows about this and could help [...] Content analysis details: (-2.9 points, 5.0 required) pts rule name description ---- ---------------------- -------------------------------------------------- -1.0 ALL_TRUSTED Passed through trusted hosts only via SMTP -1.9 BAYES_00 BODY: Bayes spam probability is 0 to 1% [score: 0.0000] X-Spam-Score: -2.3 (--) X-Debbugs-Envelope-To: 23137 Cc: Matthew Leach , 23137@debbugs.gnu.org X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18 Precedence: list List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Sender: "Debbugs-submit" X-Spam-Score: -3.3 (---) Eli Zaretskii writes: > And I'm really out of my depth here, so if double-checking the setup > of fontconfig and stuff doesn't help, I'm afraid you will have to look > for someone who really knows about this and could help you debug this. > Sorry. (I'm going through old bug reports that unfortunately weren't resolved at the time.) Skimming this bug report, I think the conclusion here was that this was not an Emacs issue, but an OS issue, so I'm closing this bug report. 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On some systems there is > /etc/fonts/conf.avail/10-sub-pixel-*.conf and you can symlink one of > those to /etc/fonts/conf.d (I have attached the one I use). The > 'rgba' value in both configs controls subpixel rendering. Firstly, do you still see this problem with Cairo rendering? Secondly, please show the output of `xrdb -query'. Thanks. From unknown Mon Jun 23 13:12:17 2025 Received: (at fakecontrol) by fakecontrolmessage; To: internal_control@debbugs.gnu.org From: Debbugs Internal Request Subject: Internal Control Message-Id: bug archived. Date: Tue, 08 Mar 2022 12:24:07 +0000 User-Agent: Fakemail v42.6.9 # This is a fake control message. # # The action: # bug archived. thanks # This fakemail brought to you by your local debbugs # administrator