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true and false not POSIX

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From: Eric Blake <eblake <at> redhat.com>
To: Ruediger Meier <sweet_f_a <at> gmx.de>, 23090 <at> debbugs.gnu.org
Subject: Re: bug#23090: true and false not POSIX
Date: Tue, 22 Mar 2016 09:30:58 -0600

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On 03/22/2016 09:13 AM, Eric Blake wrote:
> On 03/22/2016 06:43 AM, Ruediger Meier wrote:
>> Hi,
>>
>> Is there any good reason why coreutils true and false are not POSIX?
> 
> No, because coreutils' true and false ARE compliant with POSIX.
> 
>> But coreutils true has --version and --help implemented. It needs 
>>> /dev/null redirection to work as expected.
> 
> Not true.  POSIX says that behavior is unspecified for 'true --help'.
> Therefore, whatever coreutils does in that case does not violate POSIX.
> 
> 'true -- --help', on the other hand, must be silent - but coreutils
> obeys that rule.

Correction - POSIX says that 'true -- --help' is unspecified, so
coreutils can do whatever it wants (and in that case, GNU coreutils
opted to treat '--help' as an ignored operand, because the '--' ended
the chance to treat it as an option).

According to POSIX, the _only_ specified use of 'true' is without operands:

http://pubs.opengroup.org/onlinepubs/9699919799/utilities/true.html

> SYNOPSIS
> 
> true

Any other arguments on the command line are extensions, and can behave
however the implementation wants; portable apps will not be invoking
'true' with arguments, because they are no longer getting behavior
mandated by POSIX.

-- 
Eric Blake   eblake redhat com    +1-919-301-3266
Libvirt virtualization library http://libvirt.org

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