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emacs asks confirmation to open rather small files

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From: William <r.3 <at> libertysurf.fr>
To: bug-gnu-emacs <at> gnu.org
Subject: emacs asks confirmation to open rather small files
Date: Tue, 22 Mar 2016 11:54:19 +0100

Hello,

When opening files bigger than I think 20Mo, emacs asks for
confirmation. I guess it was important a long time ago, because opening
such files could use all memory and generate freezes. But with today
memory, I think the limit should be modified to let's say 300Mo, or even
bigger.
Best regards




In GNU Emacs 24.4.1 (x86_64-pc-linux-gnu, GTK+ Version 3.14.5)
 of 2015-03-07 on trouble, modified by Debian
Windowing system distributor `The X.Org Foundation', version 11.0.11604000
System Description:    Debian GNU/Linux 8.3 (jessie)

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Message #8 received at 23087 <at> debbugs.gnu.org (full text, mbox):

From: Alexis <flexibeast <at> gmail.com>
To: William <r.3 <at> libertysurf.fr>
Cc: 23087 <at> debbugs.gnu.org
Subject: Re: bug#23087: emacs asks confirmation to open rather small files
Date: Tue, 22 Mar 2016 22:18:07 +1100

William <r.3 <at> libertysurf.fr> writes:

> When opening files bigger than I think 20Mo, emacs asks for 
> confirmation. I guess it was important a long time ago, because 
> opening such files could use all memory and generate 
> freezes. But with today memory, I think the limit should be 
> modified to let's say 300Mo, or even bigger. 

Emacs versions 22.1 and later have the 
`large-file-warning-threshold' variable, available via the 
`find-file' customize-group.

Message #13 received at 23087-done <at> debbugs.gnu.org (full text, mbox):

From: Alexis <flexibeast <at> gmail.com>
To: 23087-done <at> debbugs.gnu.org
Cc: William <r.3 <at> libertysurf.fr>
Subject: Re: bug#23087: emacs asks confirmation to open rather small files
Date: Tue, 12 Apr 2016 21:56:33 +1000

i just noticed that two of the OP's responses, and my own subsequent
response to one of those, were only sent privately. With the permission
of the OP, i here reproduce these responses as support for closing this
bug.

William <r.3 <at> libertysurf.fr> writes:

> Thanks for the information.
>
> Maybe it would be interesting to change the default behaviour 
> for all people who ignore the option ?

Alexis <flexibeast <at> gmail.com> writes:

> William <r.3 <at> libertysurf.fr> writes:
>
>> Thanks for the information.
>
> You're welcome. :-)
>
>> Maybe it would be interesting to change the default behaviour 
>> for all  people who ignore the option ?
>
> Mm, i think it's best to leave it at the current size, for two 
> reasons:
>
> * Emacs is used in a wide variety of situations; not everyone is  
>   in a  situation where they're running Emacs on a machine with 
>   multiple  gigs of memory. i would suggest it's less 
>   inconvenient for  someone to have to say "y" to opening a 
>   large file than for  someone to have the 256M machine on which 
>   they're working hosed  by a 300M log file that was opened 
>   without confirmation.
>
> * Which value should be chosen is likely to result in  
>   bikeshedding,  since different people with different 
>   experiences will have  different ideas about what value is 
>   'reasonable'.
>
> So unless others feel a strong need to revisit the default 
> value,  i recommend closing this bug.

William <r.3 <at> libertysurf.fr> writes:

> ok fine, thanks

Now closing this bug.

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