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25.1.50; in Gnus temporary browse files are always deleted

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From: Ivan Kanis <ivan <at> kanis.fr>
To: bug-gnu-emacs <at> gnu.org
Subject: 25.1.50; in Gnus temporary browse files are always deleted
Date: Sun, 20 Mar 2016 17:03:05 +0100

Sorry no emacs -Q. I assume Gnus is set up with a HTML mail
available.

1) (setq gnus-article-browse-delete-temp nil)
2) go to a mail article
3) M-x gnus-article-browse-html-article

You should see Firefox displaying the article.

4) q q q (quit gnus)
5) refresh the page in Firefox

Firefox will issue an error as files have been erased. I expect the
files to not be deleted as is documented when setting the variable
gnus-article-browse-delete-temp to nil.

In case someone needs it, I wrote the following dirty work-around
in my .emacs:

(require 'gnus-art)
(defun gnus-article-browse-delete-temp-files (&optional how))

It just redefines the function that delete files to do nothing.



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 of 2016-03-04 built on tao
Repository revision: 82433c400d76ad7d427fb52ef7dd427943f43c64
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Message #8 received at 23069 <at> debbugs.gnu.org (full text, mbox):

From: Katsumi Yamaoka <yamaoka <at> jpl.org>
To: Ivan Kanis <ivan <at> kanis.fr>
Cc: 23069 <at> debbugs.gnu.org
Subject: Re: bug#23069: 25.1.50;
 in Gnus temporary browse files are always deleted
Date: Tue, 22 Mar 2016 11:42:32 +0900

On Sun, 20 Mar 2016 17:03:05 +0100, Ivan Kanis wrote:
> Sorry no emacs -Q. I assume Gnus is set up with a HTML mail
> available.

> 1) (setq gnus-article-browse-delete-temp nil)
> 2) go to a mail article
> 3) M-x gnus-article-browse-html-article

> You should see Firefox displaying the article.

> 4) q q q (quit gnus)
> 5) refresh the page in Firefox

> Firefox will issue an error as files have been erased. I expect the
> files to not be deleted as is documented when setting the variable
> gnus-article-browse-delete-temp to nil.

As documented, `gnus-article-browse-delete-temp' controls how
deleting temp files is done when exiting the summary buffer.  So,
I don't think it's a bug.  Deleting files regardless of the value
of `gnus-article-browse-delete-temp' when exiting the group buffer
was gotten to do ten years ago:

2006-03-02  Reiner Steib  <Reiner.Steib <at> gmx.de>
[...]
	(gnus-article-browse-html-parts): Add
	`gnus-article-browse-delete-temp-files' to
	`gnus-summary-prepare-exit-hook' and `gnus-exit-gnus-hook'.

Message #13 received at 23069 <at> debbugs.gnu.org (full text, mbox):

From: Ivan Kanis <ivan <at> kanis.fr>
To: Katsumi Yamaoka <yamaoka <at> jpl.org>
Cc: 23069 <at> debbugs.gnu.org
Subject: Re: bug#23069: 25.1.50;
 in Gnus temporary browse files are always deleted
Date: Mon, 11 Jul 2016 20:58:11 +0200

３月２２日１１時４２分にKatsumi Yamaokaが書ました：

> On Sun, 20 Mar 2016 17:03:05 +0100, Ivan Kanis wrote:
>> Sorry no emacs -Q. I assume Gnus is set up with a HTML mail
>> available.
>
>> 1) (setq gnus-article-browse-delete-temp nil)
>> 2) go to a mail article
>> 3) M-x gnus-article-browse-html-article
>
>> You should see Firefox displaying the article.
>
>> 4) q q q (quit gnus)
>> 5) refresh the page in Firefox
>
>> Firefox will issue an error as files have been erased. I expect the
>> files to not be deleted as is documented when setting the variable
>> gnus-article-browse-delete-temp to nil.
>
> As documented, `gnus-article-browse-delete-temp' controls how
> deleting temp files is done when exiting the summary buffer.  So,
> I don't think it's a bug.  Deleting files regardless of the value
> of `gnus-article-browse-delete-temp' when exiting the group buffer
> was gotten to do ten years ago:
>
> 2006-03-02  Reiner Steib  <Reiner.Steib <at> gmx.de>
> [...]
> 	(gnus-article-browse-html-parts): Add
> 	`gnus-article-browse-delete-temp-files' to
> 	`gnus-summary-prepare-exit-hook' and `gnus-exit-gnus-hook'.

Hello Katsumiさん

I have read again the documentation of gnus-article-browse-delete-temp.
Here is the bit that interests me:

"If nil, don't delete temporary files"

I understand that if the variable is set to nil the temporary files
should not be deleted.

I am trying to keep those files so I am guessing the bit you quoted
Reiner Steib will not help me.

Ivan

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Message #16 received at 23069 <at> debbugs.gnu.org (full text, mbox):

From: Katsumi Yamaoka <yamaoka <at> jpl.org>
To: ivan <at> kanis.fr
Cc: 23069 <at> debbugs.gnu.org
Subject: Re: bug#23069: 25.1.50;
 in Gnus temporary browse files are always deleted
Date: Wed, 13 Jul 2016 17:42:39 +0900

On Mon, 11 Jul 2016 20:58:11 +0200, Ivan Kanis <ivan <at> kanis.fr> wrote:
> I have read again the documentation of gnus-article-browse-delete-temp.
> Here is the bit that interests me:

> "If nil, don't delete temporary files"

> I understand that if the variable is set to nil the temporary files
> should not be deleted.

I can understand it so, too.

> I am trying to keep those files so I am guessing the bit you quoted
> Reiner Steib will not help me.

;;; gnus-art.el ;;;
(defun gnus-article-browse-html-parts (list &optional header)
    [...]
    (add-hook 'gnus-summary-prepare-exit-hook
              'gnus-article-browse-delete-temp-files)
    (add-hook 'gnus-exit-gnus-hook
              (lambda  ()
                (gnus-article-browse-delete-temp-files t)))

These two hooks are what Reiner added over a decade ago, and
the last `t' forces it to delete temp files regardless of
`gnus-article-browse-delete-temp'.  I think there are three
ways to fix this issue:

1. Add a note, like the following, to the documentation of
   `gnus-article-browse-delete-temp':

   Note that temporary files will be deleted when exiting Gnus
   no matter what the value of this variable is.

2. Don't pass `t' to `gnus-article-browse-delete-temp-files'
   that `gnus-exit-gnus-hook' runs.

3. Don't add `gnus-article-browse-delete-temp-files' to
   `gnus-exit-gnus-hook'.

I vote for 3.
`gnus-summary-prepare-exit-hook' is sufficient for those who
want to delete temp files automatically, I think.

WDYT?

Message #19 received at 23069 <at> debbugs.gnu.org (full text, mbox):

From: Ted Zlatanov <tzz <at> lifelogs.com>
To: Katsumi Yamaoka <yamaoka <at> jpl.org>
Cc: ivan <at> kanis.fr, 23069 <at> debbugs.gnu.org
Subject: Re: bug#23069: 25.1.50;
 in Gnus temporary browse files are always deleted
Date: Wed, 13 Jul 2016 10:14:18 -0400

On Wed, 13 Jul 2016 17:42:39 +0900 Katsumi Yamaoka <yamaoka <at> jpl.org> wrote: 

KY> I think there are three
KY> ways to fix this issue:

KY> 1. Add a note, like the following, to the documentation of
KY>    `gnus-article-browse-delete-temp':

KY>    Note that temporary files will be deleted when exiting Gnus
KY>    no matter what the value of this variable is.

KY> 2. Don't pass `t' to `gnus-article-browse-delete-temp-files'
KY>    that `gnus-exit-gnus-hook' runs.

KY> 3. Don't add `gnus-article-browse-delete-temp-files' to
KY>    `gnus-exit-gnus-hook'.

KY> I vote for 3.
KY> `gnus-summary-prepare-exit-hook' is sufficient for those who
KY> want to delete temp files automatically, I think.

I think it's much more common to want temporary files deleted by Gnus
when it exits, than to keep them. By definition those files are
transient.

Ted

Message #22 received at 23069 <at> debbugs.gnu.org (full text, mbox):

From: Katsumi Yamaoka <yamaoka <at> jpl.org>
To: ivan <at> kanis.fr
Cc: 23069 <at> debbugs.gnu.org
Subject: Re: bug#23069: 25.1.50;
 in Gnus temporary browse files are always deleted
Date: Thu, 14 Jul 2016 08:27:55 +0900

On Wed, 13 Jul 2016 10:14:18 -0400, Ted Zlatanov wrote:
> On Wed, 13 Jul 2016 17:42:39 +0900 Katsumi Yamaoka <yamaoka <at> jpl.org> wrote:
KY> 3. Don't add `gnus-article-browse-delete-temp-files' to
KY>    `gnus-exit-gnus-hook'.

KY> I vote for 3.
KY> `gnus-summary-prepare-exit-hook' is sufficient for those who
KY> want to delete temp files automatically, I think.

> I think it's much more common to want temporary files deleted by Gnus
> when it exits, than to keep them. By definition those files are
> transient.

Roger.  Ivan, here is a solution for you. :)

(defadvice gnus-article-browse-html-parts
    (after dont-delete-temp-files-when-gnus-exits activate)
  "Never delete temp files if `gnus-article-browse-delete-temp' is nil."
  (unless gnus-article-browse-delete-temp
    (remove-hook 'gnus-exit-gnus-hook
		 (byte-compile
		  (lambda ()
		    (gnus-article-browse-delete-temp-files t))))))

If it's ok, please close this bug.

Regards,

Message #27 received at 23069 <at> debbugs.gnu.org (full text, mbox):

From: Ivan Kanis <ivan <at> kanis.fr>
To: Katsumi Yamaoka <yamaoka <at> jpl.org>, Ted Zlatanov <tzz <at> lifelogs.com>
Cc: 23069 <at> debbugs.gnu.org
Subject: Re: bug#23069: 25.1.50;
 in Gnus temporary browse files are always deleted
Date: Thu, 25 Aug 2016 11:57:08 +0200

July, 14 at 8:27 Katsumi Yamaoka wrote:

>> I think it's much more common to want temporary files deleted by Gnus
>> when it exits, than to keep them. By definition those files are
>> transient.
>
> Roger.  Ivan, here is a solution for you. :)

I have a simpler one if someone stumble on this thread.

(require 'gnus-art)

;; Don't delete temporary files. Do it this way because setting
;; gnus-article-browse-delete-temp to nil does not work
(defun gnus-article-browse-delete-temp-files (&optional how))

I have closed the bug.

Thank you,

Ivan

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