From unknown Sat Sep 13 13:15:36 2025 X-Loop: help-debbugs@gnu.org Subject: bug#23027: 25.1.50; Emacs refuses to talk to eternal-september because they now use an MD5 certificate, apparently Resent-From: Lars Magne Ingebrigtsen Original-Sender: "Debbugs-submit" Resent-CC: bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org Resent-Date: Wed, 16 Mar 2016 10:55:02 +0000 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-Sender: help-debbugs@gnu.org X-GNU-PR-Message: report 23027 X-GNU-PR-Package: emacs X-GNU-PR-Keywords: To: 23027@debbugs.gnu.org X-Debbugs-Original-To: bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org Received: via spool by submit@debbugs.gnu.org id=B.14581256907057 (code B ref -1); Wed, 16 Mar 2016 10:55:02 +0000 Received: (at submit) by debbugs.gnu.org; 16 Mar 2016 10:54:50 +0000 Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:49740 helo=debbugs.gnu.org) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1ag96F-0001pi-EJ for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Wed, 16 Mar 2016 06:54:50 -0400 Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([208.118.235.92]:48198) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1ag96D-0001pU-DT for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Wed, 16 Mar 2016 06:54:46 -0400 Received: from Debian-exim by eggs.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1ag966-0004xg-O5 for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Wed, 16 Mar 2016 06:54:40 -0400 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.3.2 (2011-06-06) on eggs.gnu.org X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=0.8 required=5.0 tests=BAYES_50 autolearn=disabled version=3.3.2 Received: from lists.gnu.org ([2001:4830:134:3::11]:33837) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1ag966-0004xb-LE for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Wed, 16 Mar 2016 06:54:38 -0400 Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([2001:4830:134:3::10]:39160) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1ag964-00080R-OT for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Wed, 16 Mar 2016 06:54:38 -0400 Received: from Debian-exim by eggs.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1ag95z-0004x8-5B for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Wed, 16 Mar 2016 06:54:36 -0400 Received: from hermes.netfonds.no ([80.91.224.195]:44782) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1ag95y-0004wC-RP for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Wed, 16 Mar 2016 06:54:31 -0400 Received: from cm-84.215.1.64.getinternet.no ([84.215.1.64] helo=stories) by hermes.netfonds.no with esmtpsa (TLS1.2:DHE_RSA_AES_128_CBC_SHA1:128) (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1ag95m-0007HT-6d for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Wed, 16 Mar 2016 11:54:22 +0100 From: Lars Magne Ingebrigtsen Date: Wed, 16 Mar 2016 11:54:17 +0100 Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain X-detected-operating-system: by eggs.gnu.org: GNU/Linux 2.2.x-3.x [generic] X-detected-operating-system: by eggs.gnu.org: GNU/Linux 2.6.x X-Received-From: 2001:4830:134:3::11 X-Spam-Score: -5.0 (-----) X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18 Precedence: list List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Sender: "Debbugs-submit" X-Spam-Score: -5.0 (-----) Anssi Saari writes: > And with a wild guess after visiting an ssl checker website I think I > might need MD5 for signature checking. gnutls.el mentions > GNUTLS_VERIFY_ALLOW_SIGN_RSA_MD5 but I don't know how to specify that > from Gnus. Here's an easy test case: (open-network-stream "nntpd" (get-buffer-create "*foo*") "news.eternal-september.org" "nntp" :type 'starttls :end-of-command "^\\([2345]\\|[.]\\).*\n" :capability-command "HELP\r\n" :success "^3" :starttls-function (lambda (capabilities) (if (not (string-match "STARTTLS" capabilities)) nil "STARTTLS\r\n"))) First of all, I think the error message is lacking. It should say more about what's failing. As to the bug -- gnutls by default now refuses to deal with MD5 certificates. We could override that, and instead let the network security manager notify the user that the connection isn't safe. I think that's a better solution, but others may differ. 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Emacs refuses to talk to eternal-september because they now use an MD5 certificate, apparently Resent-From: Lars Magne Ingebrigtsen Original-Sender: "Debbugs-submit" Resent-CC: bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org Resent-Date: Wed, 16 Mar 2016 12:05:01 +0000 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-Sender: help-debbugs@gnu.org X-GNU-PR-Message: followup 23027 X-GNU-PR-Package: emacs X-GNU-PR-Keywords: To: 23027@debbugs.gnu.org Received: via spool by 23027-submit@debbugs.gnu.org id=B23027.145812984619927 (code B ref 23027); Wed, 16 Mar 2016 12:05:01 +0000 Received: (at 23027) by debbugs.gnu.org; 16 Mar 2016 12:04:06 +0000 Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:49790 helo=debbugs.gnu.org) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1agABK-0005BJ-4K for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Wed, 16 Mar 2016 08:04:06 -0400 Received: from hermes.netfonds.no ([80.91.224.195]:59836) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1agABG-0005Aq-VH for 23027@debbugs.gnu.org; Wed, 16 Mar 2016 08:04:04 -0400 Received: from cm-84.215.1.64.getinternet.no ([84.215.1.64] helo=stories) by hermes.netfonds.no with esmtpsa (TLS1.2:DHE_RSA_AES_128_CBC_SHA1:128) (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1agABB-0008SY-V6 for 23027@debbugs.gnu.org; Wed, 16 Mar 2016 13:04:00 +0100 From: Lars Magne Ingebrigtsen References: Face: iVBORw0KGgoAAAANSUhEUgAAADAAAAAwBAMAAAClLOS0AAAAD1BMVEU3MzEaFRR9d3MPCwra 19EuSkRkAAACaklEQVQ4jUVUiZHDMAhEsgsQIgVgTgVYRwOOhv5rusV5TjOJM1oDC7uEDIeIxqqm hVstk/CjG32Ay0xpjzA6LG9vwKiGatftNyKUaeCdN0BGMklOGnFx/QL5KHOSu8+xZNzJ7witWmSK T24jyh72rUGFhbfJ5bRYkecDcBH2VphrxDr/gdISqAcaibpxsjZbYJuAdFBtQ0+XgTsbdwgzzRGx 1aC6P5OXJQUMo7SG7Nm7jueX1VVaEn0d/QWzTx/8D6xWx7BKqB2mmCpGlNfnylrWMwLAsh/2WXFV ElhaE1hKYcfMQSHmmPEBTKXTcVLyQkiPNeIt1ObtmFktzwhtoPUaoc/nrPVDuPh5i4gRen8mS2RH 1JI5UUOpamtdawwMHKOHVH6mpmRHq8k6D7M8ALR2Fy8Y9gVDvCayX+6lvYpjlKD+Lh2Hn6WQYrQA oEBqdwM/niqkAZFxxKBIH0QSgB1BKXXN0Tbb/E7nTbIPZZ6UgLLzA49oxR8A6Dyc2WLgDT33JVXF wQeqJoD24ngseBFewRcnQM6zhlVQU/dm4tKMFkiJzB5WLLahzQ44dVdKS4swAKu6QQiT2ai2HCKI yZ7iFN+jQBtDelSHHCKt7Ats6sXoliw/pLUIeOxr8462HaPIjcmQGxjXbYYf7NCWBUhBGPc9ClwN ADtUUAbDIoZzsBLlNsmzY4eywYJlmb4jydFvh9ImjhTEMvEYL9/YqnEgoEEPzgB++3lYN1TgWVIr xvKNt9WwegqdTsyXkYn5HQAGlZI7anSzg14RC94GfXaZXwBrEuuiSwhq3CHk9x+Co4dLkyH0k4T+ AFUvmPRsKiDjAAAAAElFTkSuQmCC Date: Wed, 16 Mar 2016 13:03:57 +0100 In-Reply-To: (Lars Magne Ingebrigtsen's message of "Wed, 16 Mar 2016 11:54:17 +0100") Message-ID: User-Agent: Gnus/5.13 (Gnus v5.13) Emacs/25.1.50 (gnu/linux) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain X-Spam-Score: 0.0 (/) X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18 Precedence: list List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Sender: "Debbugs-submit" X-Spam-Score: 0.0 (/) And furthermore, the form bugs out with the following, which should also be fixed: Debugger entered--Lisp error: (error "Process nntpd<4> not running") process-send-string(#> "HELP.\n") network-stream-command(#> "HELP.\n" "^\\([2345]\\|[.]\\).*\n") network-stream-open-starttls("nntpd" # "news.eternal-september.org" "nntp" (:type starttls :end-of-command "^\\([2345]\\|[.]\\).*\n" :capability-command "HELP.\n" :success "^3" :starttls-function (lambda (capabilities) (if (not (string-match "STARTTLS" capabilities)) nil "STARTTLS.\n")))) open-network-stream("nntpd" # "news.eternal-september.org" "nntp" :type starttls :end-of-command "^\\([2345]\\|[.]\\).*\n" :capability-command "HELP.\n" :success "^3" :starttls-function (lambda (capabilities) (if (not (string-match "STARTTLS" capabilities)) nil "STARTTLS.\n"))) eval((open-network-stream "nntpd" (get-buffer-create "*foo*") "news.eternal-september.org" "nntp" :type (quote starttls) :end-of-command "^\\([2345]\\|[.]\\).*\n" :capability-command "HELP.\n" :success "^3" :starttls-function (function (lambda (capabilities) (if (not (string-match "STARTTLS" capabilities)) nil "STARTTLS.\n")))) nil) -- (domestic pets only, the antidote for overdose, milk.) bloggy blog: http://lars.ingebrigtsen.no From unknown Sat Sep 13 13:15:36 2025 X-Loop: help-debbugs@gnu.org Subject: bug#23027: 25.1.50; Emacs refuses to talk to eternal-september because they now use an MD5 certificate, apparently Resent-From: Lars Magne Ingebrigtsen Original-Sender: "Debbugs-submit" Resent-CC: bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org Resent-Date: Sun, 24 Apr 2016 14:04:02 +0000 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-Sender: help-debbugs@gnu.org X-GNU-PR-Message: followup 23027 X-GNU-PR-Package: emacs X-GNU-PR-Keywords: To: 23027@debbugs.gnu.org Cc: Anssi Saari Received: via spool by 23027-submit@debbugs.gnu.org id=B23027.14615066329220 (code B ref 23027); Sun, 24 Apr 2016 14:04:02 +0000 Received: (at 23027) by debbugs.gnu.org; 24 Apr 2016 14:03:52 +0000 Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:45082 helo=debbugs.gnu.org) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1auKdZ-0002OU-6r for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Sun, 24 Apr 2016 10:03:52 -0400 Received: from hermes.netfonds.no ([80.91.224.195]:38547) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1auKdV-0002OH-1s for 23027@debbugs.gnu.org; Sun, 24 Apr 2016 10:03:48 -0400 Received: from cm-84.215.1.64.getinternet.no ([84.215.1.64] helo=stories) by hermes.netfonds.no with esmtpsa (TLS1.2:DHE_RSA_AES_128_CBC_SHA1:128) (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1auKdQ-0003sF-9k; Sun, 24 Apr 2016 16:03:43 +0200 From: Lars Magne Ingebrigtsen References: Date: Sun, 24 Apr 2016 16:03:40 +0200 In-Reply-To: (Lars Magne Ingebrigtsen's message of "Wed, 16 Mar 2016 11:54:17 +0100") Message-ID: User-Agent: Gnus/5.13 (Gnus v5.13) Emacs/25.1.50 (gnu/linux) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain X-Spam-Score: 0.0 (/) X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18 Precedence: list List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Sender: "Debbugs-submit" X-Spam-Score: 0.0 (/) Lars Magne Ingebrigtsen writes: > Here's an easy test case: > > (open-network-stream > "nntpd" (get-buffer-create "*foo*") > "news.eternal-september.org" "nntp" > :type 'starttls > :end-of-command "^\\([2345]\\|[.]\\).*\n" > :capability-command "HELP\r\n" > :success "^3" > :starttls-function > (lambda (capabilities) > (if (not (string-match "STARTTLS" capabilities)) > nil > "STARTTLS\r\n"))) > > First of all, I think the error message is lacking. It should say more > about what's failing. I've now fixed this... > As to the bug -- gnutls by default now refuses to deal with MD5 > certificates. We could override that, and instead let the network > security manager notify the user that the connection isn't safe. This apparently has nothing to do with MD5? Included below is what s_client says about the TLS connection. It's ECDSA... Hm... but there is a self signed certificate in the chain. Uhm... using GNUTLS_VERIFY_DISABLE_CA_SIGN doesn't help, I still get GNUTLS_E_UNSUPPORTED_SIGNATURE_ALGORITHM. Hm... Is it possible that the gnutls installation is just too old or something? Weird. [larsi@stories /usr/include/gnutls]$ openssl s_client -connect news.eternal-september.org:nntps CONNECTED(00000003) depth=1 O = Root CA, OU = http://www.cacert.org, CN = CA Cert Signing Authority, emailAddress = support@cacert.org verify error:num=19:self signed certificate in certificate chain verify return:0 --- Certificate chain 0 s:/CN=news.eternal-september.org i:/O=Root CA/OU=http://www.cacert.org/CN=CA Cert Signing Authority/emailAddress=support@cacert.org 1 s:/O=Root CA/OU=http://www.cacert.org/CN=CA Cert Signing Authority/emailAddress=support@cacert.org i:/O=Root CA/OU=http://www.cacert.org/CN=CA Cert Signing Authority/emailAddress=support@cacert.org --- Server certificate -----BEGIN CERTIFICATE----- MIIGLDCCBBSgAwIBAgIDEdYnMA0GCSqGSIb3DQEBDQUAMHkxEDAOBgNVBAoTB1Jv b3QgQ0ExHjAcBgNVBAsTFWh0dHA6Ly93d3cuY2FjZXJ0Lm9yZzEiMCAGA1UEAxMZ Q0EgQ2VydCBTaWduaW5nIEF1dGhvcml0eTEhMB8GCSqGSIb3DQEJARYSc3VwcG9y dEBjYWNlcnQub3JnMB4XDTE2MDMxMTAzMzUyMFoXDTE2MDkwNzAzMzUyMFowJTEj MCEGA1UEAxMabmV3cy5ldGVybmFsLXNlcHRlbWJlci5vcmcwggIgMA0GCSqGSIb3 DQEBAQUAA4ICDQAwggIIAoIB/yjsWrb5ftbIGzSCTRyYRyH+CcwR2FkVXaK331KM 8bULtWrbOGj8Ig5iMSP1+y7GQxX5WPErSduJI2fnp//TElb0FlmqShkNesSc3os1 Jng+aSbpYmnHhR0QHLt+wB9PG1WslD2fsyCHQnkAMNF7wtDyZ3N5YJveQHd9OjR1 LC4GwlHNWaRh2b1IEY/glO5+xXnrXMJLYLWv6Qj5rWpPNb/pn2hQT06sCdOLd/zP MND0/G7cg4KSasRCFEMl8sMO4/013ZelBoBYQRkJs7LQFKfk4I3Xv97BZu0w/VNu yQUShJDzaa9+JWM56eLP52rkK4uic++z3kF9ehhE5UrEMFDPusBcyJ+GehSvJXx/ YUq8QejYvKL+7K+nAvQDioUjc3GfvW3CoFbuH4vTK+4H2N9BAsUi3NbSmCxAVYuy FNJgapAvPrJrgsQshHWJcHdcDbIFBmTqsemK/9Fs2CPFPGr0ckmhu+zDkUBWGqoK JTW1nKU+Szf5+NVgNf9GxVv3HoLtRibAAH1eRVGursZc5Sy9p9pRuFVEwBkJUpC6 P+2u8b768VJsruQOwccWy4+QH0Mq/xxVKP5b4Fq3tP0CSBhsJD88QdgptCgHArKw axJ8DlcOwY7BhcCEMpjN4lArZZMERWHCYEhIvdHMVCXZD8aLnoio4YhdFGdEpvgN /sUCAwEAAaOCAREwggENMAwGA1UdEwEB/wQCMAAwDgYDVR0PAQH/BAQDAgOoMDQG A1UdJQQtMCsGCCsGAQUFBwMCBggrBgEFBQcDAQYJYIZIAYb4QgQBBgorBgEEAYI3 CgMDMDMGCCsGAQUFBwEBBCcwJTAjBggrBgEFBQcwAYYXaHR0cDovL29jc3AuY2Fj ZXJ0Lm9yZy8wMQYDVR0fBCowKDAmoCSgIoYgaHR0cDovL2NybC5jYWNlcnQub3Jn L3Jldm9rZS5jcmwwTwYDVR0RBEgwRoIabmV3cy5ldGVybmFsLXNlcHRlbWJlci5v cmegKAYIKwYBBQUHCAWgHAwabmV3cy5ldGVybmFsLXNlcHRlbWJlci5vcmcwDQYJ KoZIhvcNAQENBQADggIBAK9hEHAl5w+8s/ZISK2LBv3mvPBmOEfcwhhCBzlDn5S1 /sUot+tPVv1AUF5Z7p21E9HiLRr69C038imk8wD9kTIGakW+o4izC57lpMCklKFc Qfqi/YQmCIeIbXQAxaMdANyz/HpajhhHtOmSYjcUrXWFds/Bm1hJzHb+rFSFnL7Y GN2gogeLzgEcTZMPIrmzoCGqkal4+guWnj3Fc5bXWgc9CBbVHOV9WAyFhhRPwbVl w87uVpGjHoA2epzirdtc6KcLZCymCCCHYHTUJ8F9f6W/IJtIKdtw4G2/1z7lz2v3 Coo7mXKY8n/tgCUUBZfcCalkL//5MCdf746XM9uJxdibDSnf8vdpQKx4Otf0W3h7 /zGIntpuUxWwwGCCdknTVagT2+XhhpHqBPgQYKm87zmbzweg2RMqRzXIq81+Gxz0 UkKHyJJsec421m+smZDdsjYMvc+FWsbuKXjnjzDwEj2TuxPYIaUJQAvj+ZnlBP8Y fXZYD/ykrH9v4YGO7BtGRi0NY3Hs1tMIOSo2Ran0LmeQbGFpDPLvgUzg3Ta9RkYY 9FY6Bm6WHd5EVVXdL/m5OlC+50FqXWpkizmVsm6SpWcKzUSn1rQpTqd4wegsg1fw CurbHkgkP56yPFj8SdXfNdP34YBXEiSI4ZEFM9CS/wsVKm8SE4TnIRDjN39i7ad1 -----END CERTIFICATE----- subject=/CN=news.eternal-september.org issuer=/O=Root CA/OU=http://www.cacert.org/CN=CA Cert Signing Authority/emailAddress=support@cacert.org --- No client certificate CA names sent --- SSL handshake has read 4358 bytes and written 416 bytes --- New, TLSv1/SSLv3, Cipher is ECDHE-RSA-AES256-GCM-SHA384 Server public key is 4086 bit Secure Renegotiation IS supported Compression: NONE Expansion: NONE SSL-Session: Protocol : TLSv1.2 Cipher : ECDHE-RSA-AES256-GCM-SHA384 Session-ID: 79FA1DD8A295D1D96475BE1818E88C3C28059A074AA8B743871B48243C203072 Session-ID-ctx: Master-Key: 156AF5671933E472B5B2E5ACAED0FB40B6F4EE997F9F2DABA13F548E9B64DB4565C4FD9B7D9539AF0D7A77B64E3942F4 Key-Arg : None PSK identity: None PSK identity hint: None SRP username: None TLS session ticket lifetime hint: 300 (seconds) TLS session ticket: 0000 - 65 10 86 c0 3b 81 89 d6-b6 63 74 7a c6 9d 9b 3b e...;....ctz...; 0010 - a8 38 e2 4a dc 47 96 f6-90 b5 37 6b 33 dc 73 2b .8.J.G....7k3.s+ 0020 - 9c fb 97 e9 fc de 22 70-b7 da 76 0b 92 f3 94 72 ......"p..v....r 0030 - 49 c5 ac 15 9f a3 5f 1e-e9 c6 19 b1 ed 16 1d 50 I....._........P 0040 - 8a 0a 74 70 8e 97 ed 09-04 99 3d 75 cd 4d 46 15 ..tp......=u.MF. 0050 - 93 b1 31 50 e0 28 bc b3-dd da 46 2c ac 00 47 88 ..1P.(....F,..G. 0060 - a5 c3 b1 ad e1 86 d8 f3-85 c8 c3 9e c5 cf bb 9d ................ 0070 - 93 14 8d c6 de c9 ff 7e-f6 45 99 35 cb 83 41 ab .......~.E.5..A. 0080 - 97 06 11 85 4a ee 76 a5-f4 1b 11 17 98 dd ec aa ....J.v......... 0090 - f2 48 d4 b6 2d 2e 16 a9-53 03 c1 96 96 31 ba ab .H..-...S....1.. Start Time: 1461506257 Timeout : 300 (sec) Verify return code: 19 (self signed certificate in certificate chain) -- (domestic pets only, the antidote for overdose, milk.) bloggy blog: http://lars.ingebrigtsen.no From unknown Sat Sep 13 13:15:36 2025 X-Loop: help-debbugs@gnu.org Subject: bug#23027: 25.1.50; Emacs refuses to talk to eternal-september because they now use an MD5 certificate, apparently Resent-From: Lars Magne Ingebrigtsen Original-Sender: "Debbugs-submit" Resent-CC: bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org Resent-Date: Sun, 24 Apr 2016 14:15:02 +0000 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-Sender: help-debbugs@gnu.org X-GNU-PR-Message: followup 23027 X-GNU-PR-Package: emacs X-GNU-PR-Keywords: To: 23027@debbugs.gnu.org Received: via spool by 23027-submit@debbugs.gnu.org id=B23027.146150729810214 (code B ref 23027); Sun, 24 Apr 2016 14:15:02 +0000 Received: (at 23027) by debbugs.gnu.org; 24 Apr 2016 14:14:58 +0000 Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:45090 helo=debbugs.gnu.org) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1auKoL-0002eg-Om for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Sun, 24 Apr 2016 10:14:57 -0400 Received: from hermes.netfonds.no ([80.91.224.195]:38592) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1auKoJ-0002eX-Fd for 23027@debbugs.gnu.org; Sun, 24 Apr 2016 10:14:55 -0400 Received: from cm-84.215.1.64.getinternet.no ([84.215.1.64] helo=stories) by hermes.netfonds.no with esmtpsa (TLS1.2:DHE_RSA_AES_128_CBC_SHA1:128) (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1auKoG-0003xh-Ug for 23027@debbugs.gnu.org; Sun, 24 Apr 2016 16:14:54 +0200 From: Lars Magne Ingebrigtsen In-Reply-To: (Lars Magne Ingebrigtsen's message of "Sun, 24 Apr 2016 16:03:40 +0200") References: User-Agent: Gnus/5.13 (Gnus v5.13) Emacs/25.1.50 (gnu/linux) Face: iVBORw0KGgoAAAANSUhEUgAAADAAAAAwBAMAAAClLOS0AAAAD1BMVEUCAgDCyLc9QztwfXoI CQNXC0hkAAACYklEQVQ4jUWUi5HrIAxFmSwNyKSAWLiAh+QCHKz+a3pHJDvrZPLRAenqA8XbEGnD XUaTv6eV7u5mfAIbK5rzdsBoPN11T2Mbwwc7+VGSirr6FqXMPjYcQgUwxFX7UdYz8QkQL0mHbV97 KTceeA8AGszSVq/83FOkAAahLE115LY6M7ZIEeTKmUsfkrzGjXMAut1fCX5GgohI51IMGdsnbDd2 BgqFLQWx9m+BH/kChBHcm6/QCVL0VNXxcdW1/IGK/ejoSlXnNzVp1wfcuCmj+4vM4ipz5YGreGSC kmAlXS3Bw4+rknTxblf9+HJbFUH87k51/bd+Y7vFEBQU0AuF+tpr9nbndZROcPuC+kr17b1NiWu5 +pS87BvpbnzdgL5ikEaXjTaM8SxvhiWuN6D7WS9J57njfos8I+ZnR4005hCIKKIA/RecItuqtof2 CDoAMADyCd7HiZMDoMrAaaQrwHaru2KnJ0qCGpqD8dTZRZlJOYNBy5JMgJoO19y+I8sN0AEtp5rV VDbu/RlDCd47HpHQabG+asSOghUcmx2zoabowfhITLMVw2jaPCZgHsybbDkQJT0D9Hhkd4nxlo3R AjCJZKLHpBKsiL2hsKcryhhhx95wCciCKKoI3vyKk5XftIM2meckDnk9zPbUNXuj5plWySMqVtWy 2p6wc2675EDwvDL6MQxXk6NqvWUerKMN1J5MIjpDazklbnniz7jW+ax3b4h1pef2SX6dhTrzr+lO P7J8XTn5B6Pdt/xL5n0dzoG+vCxWNC4WUtfMI9HS8F2UbeR8tIyxAnEz5WXBDWLq/wEeIZ2MGNr7 MwAAAABJRU5ErkJggg== Date: Sun, 24 Apr 2016 16:14:52 +0200 Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain X-Spam-Score: 0.0 (/) X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18 Precedence: list List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Sender: "Debbugs-submit" X-Spam-Score: 0.0 (/) [larsi@stories ~/src/emacs/trunk]$ gnutls-cli -p nntps news.eternal-september.org Resolving 'news.eternal-september.org'... Connecting to '213.239.209.88:563'... *** Fatal error: The signature algorithm is not supported. *** Handshake has failed GnuTLS error: The signature algorithm is not supported. That's not very helpful. However, on a newer machine it says: - Certificate[1] info: - subject `O=Root CA,OU=http://www.cacert.org,CN=CA Cert Signing Authority,EMAIL=support@cacert.org', issuer `O=Root CA,OU=http://www.cacert.org,CN=CA Cert Signing Authority,EMAIL=support@cacert.org', RSA key 4096 bits, signed using RSA-MD5 (broken!), activated `2003-03-30 12:29:49 UTC', expires `2033-03-29 12:29:49 UTC', SHA-1 fingerprint `135cec36f49cb8e93b1ab270cd80884676ce8f33' So there's the MD5. So it like fails on several levels: On older machines, the GnuTLS library is too old, and on newer machines, it refuses the connection because of the MD5... -- (domestic pets only, the antidote for overdose, milk.) bloggy blog: http://lars.ingebrigtsen.no From unknown Sat Sep 13 13:15:36 2025 X-Loop: help-debbugs@gnu.org Subject: bug#23027: 25.1.50; Emacs refuses to talk to eternal-september because they now use an MD5 certificate, apparently Resent-From: Anssi Saari Original-Sender: "Debbugs-submit" Resent-CC: bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org Resent-Date: Fri, 29 Apr 2016 09:06:02 +0000 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-Sender: help-debbugs@gnu.org X-GNU-PR-Message: followup 23027 X-GNU-PR-Package: emacs X-GNU-PR-Keywords: To: 23027@debbugs.gnu.org Cc: Lars Magne Ingebrigtsen Received: via spool by 23027-submit@debbugs.gnu.org id=B23027.146192071730742 (code B ref 23027); Fri, 29 Apr 2016 09:06:02 +0000 Received: (at 23027) by debbugs.gnu.org; 29 Apr 2016 09:05:17 +0000 Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:53958 helo=debbugs.gnu.org) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1aw4MO-0007zm-Vf for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Fri, 29 Apr 2016 05:05:17 -0400 Received: from vs18.mail.saunalahti.fi ([62.142.117.199]:36804) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1aw4MM-0007zW-QQ for 23027@debbugs.gnu.org; Fri, 29 Apr 2016 05:05:15 -0400 Received: from vams (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by vs18.mail.saunalahti.fi (Postfix) with SMTP id E7098200A2; Fri, 29 Apr 2016 10:48:13 +0300 (EEST) Received: from gw03.mail.saunalahti.fi (gw03.mail.saunalahti.fi [195.197.172.111]) by vs18.mail.saunalahti.fi (Postfix) with ESMTP id C8466200A2; Fri, 29 Apr 2016 10:48:13 +0300 (EEST) Received: from [192.168.5.109] (kotinetti1-116.suomi.net [212.50.143.116]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES128-GCM-SHA256 (128/128 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by gw03.mail.saunalahti.fi (Postfix) with ESMTPSA id A410120004; Fri, 29 Apr 2016 10:48:11 +0300 (EEST) References: From: Anssi Saari Message-ID: <572311BA.4070808@sci.fi> Date: Fri, 29 Apr 2016 10:48:10 +0300 User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows NT 6.1; WOW64; rv:38.0) Gecko/20100101 Thunderbird/38.7.2 MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=windows-1252; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Spam-Score: -0.7 (/) X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18 Precedence: list List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Sender: "Debbugs-submit" X-Spam-Score: -0.7 (/) Some comments on this issue (I originally reported this on gnu.emacs.gnus). The machine in question runs Ubuntu 14.04 LTS and seems to have two versions of GnuTLS installed, 2.6 and 2.8, 2.6 is the default. If I force GnuTLS 2.8 then I have no issue. From unknown Sat Sep 13 13:15:36 2025 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: MIME-tools 5.505 (Entity 5.505) X-Loop: help-debbugs@gnu.org From: help-debbugs@gnu.org (GNU bug Tracking System) To: Lars Magne Ingebrigtsen Subject: bug#23027: closed (Re: bug#23027: 25.1.50; Emacs refuses to talk to eternal-september because they now use an MD5 certificate, apparently) Message-ID: References: <87wpnga8mg.fsf@gnus.org> X-Gnu-PR-Message: they-closed 23027 X-Gnu-PR-Package: emacs Reply-To: 23027@debbugs.gnu.org Date: Fri, 29 Apr 2016 12:44:02 +0000 Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="----------=_1461933842-23712-1" This is a multi-part message in MIME format... ------------=_1461933842-23712-1 Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8" Your bug report #23027: 25.1.50; Emacs refuses to talk to eternal-september because they no= w use an MD5 certificate, apparently which was filed against the emacs package, has been closed. The explanation is attached below, along with your original report. If you require more details, please reply to 23027@debbugs.gnu.org. --=20 23027: http://debbugs.gnu.org/cgi/bugreport.cgi?bug=3D23027 GNU Bug Tracking System Contact help-debbugs@gnu.org with problems ------------=_1461933842-23712-1 Content-Type: message/rfc822 Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Received: (at 23027-close) by debbugs.gnu.org; 29 Apr 2016 12:43:08 +0000 Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:54063 helo=debbugs.gnu.org) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1aw7lD-000697-M7 for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Fri, 29 Apr 2016 08:43:07 -0400 Received: from hermes.netfonds.no ([80.91.224.195]:53799) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1aw7lC-00068z-7l for 23027-close@debbugs.gnu.org; Fri, 29 Apr 2016 08:43:06 -0400 Received: from cm-84.215.1.64.getinternet.no ([84.215.1.64] helo=mouse) by hermes.netfonds.no with esmtpsa (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_128_GCM_SHA256:128) (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1aw7l9-0007Cc-Cd; Fri, 29 Apr 2016 14:43:05 +0200 From: Lars Ingebrigtsen To: Anssi Saari Subject: Re: bug#23027: 25.1.50; Emacs refuses to talk to eternal-september because they now use an MD5 certificate, apparently References: <572311BA.4070808@sci.fi> Date: Fri, 29 Apr 2016 14:43:03 +0200 In-Reply-To: <572311BA.4070808@sci.fi> (Anssi Saari's message of "Fri, 29 Apr 2016 10:48:10 +0300") Message-ID: <87wpnga8mg.fsf@gnus.org> User-Agent: Gnus/5.13 (Gnus v5.13) Emacs/25.1.50 (gnu/linux) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain X-Spam-Score: 0.0 (/) X-Debbugs-Envelope-To: 23027-close Cc: 23027-close@debbugs.gnu.org X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18 Precedence: list List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Sender: "Debbugs-submit" X-Spam-Score: 0.0 (/) Anssi Saari writes: > Some comments on this issue (I originally reported this on > gnu.emacs.gnus). The machine in question runs Ubuntu 14.04 LTS and > seems to have two versions of GnuTLS installed, 2.6 and 2.8, 2.6 is > the default. If I force GnuTLS 2.8 then I have no issue. Yes, I upgraded this laptop to the newest Ubuntu, and the problem went away. So I guess eternal-september uses something too new for the previous Ubuntu version. I'll close the bug. -- (domestic pets only, the antidote for overdose, milk.) bloggy blog: http://lars.ingebrigtsen.no ------------=_1461933842-23712-1 Content-Type: message/rfc822 Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Received: (at submit) by debbugs.gnu.org; 16 Mar 2016 10:54:50 +0000 Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:49740 helo=debbugs.gnu.org) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1ag96F-0001pi-EJ for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Wed, 16 Mar 2016 06:54:50 -0400 Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([208.118.235.92]:48198) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1ag96D-0001pU-DT for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Wed, 16 Mar 2016 06:54:46 -0400 Received: from Debian-exim by eggs.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1ag966-0004xg-O5 for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Wed, 16 Mar 2016 06:54:40 -0400 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.3.2 (2011-06-06) on eggs.gnu.org X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=0.8 required=5.0 tests=BAYES_50 autolearn=disabled version=3.3.2 Received: from lists.gnu.org ([2001:4830:134:3::11]:33837) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1ag966-0004xb-LE for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Wed, 16 Mar 2016 06:54:38 -0400 Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([2001:4830:134:3::10]:39160) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1ag964-00080R-OT for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Wed, 16 Mar 2016 06:54:38 -0400 Received: from Debian-exim by eggs.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1ag95z-0004x8-5B for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Wed, 16 Mar 2016 06:54:36 -0400 Received: from hermes.netfonds.no ([80.91.224.195]:44782) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1ag95y-0004wC-RP for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Wed, 16 Mar 2016 06:54:31 -0400 Received: from cm-84.215.1.64.getinternet.no ([84.215.1.64] helo=stories) by hermes.netfonds.no with esmtpsa (TLS1.2:DHE_RSA_AES_128_CBC_SHA1:128) (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1ag95m-0007HT-6d for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Wed, 16 Mar 2016 11:54:22 +0100 From: Lars Magne Ingebrigtsen To: bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org Subject: 25.1.50; Emacs refuses to talk to eternal-september because they now use an MD5 certificate, apparently Date: Wed, 16 Mar 2016 11:54:17 +0100 Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain X-detected-operating-system: by eggs.gnu.org: GNU/Linux 2.2.x-3.x [generic] X-detected-operating-system: by eggs.gnu.org: GNU/Linux 2.6.x X-Received-From: 2001:4830:134:3::11 X-Spam-Score: -5.0 (-----) X-Debbugs-Envelope-To: submit X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18 Precedence: list List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Sender: "Debbugs-submit" X-Spam-Score: -5.0 (-----) Anssi Saari writes: > And with a wild guess after visiting an ssl checker website I think I > might need MD5 for signature checking. gnutls.el mentions > GNUTLS_VERIFY_ALLOW_SIGN_RSA_MD5 but I don't know how to specify that > from Gnus. Here's an easy test case: (open-network-stream "nntpd" (get-buffer-create "*foo*") "news.eternal-september.org" "nntp" :type 'starttls :end-of-command "^\\([2345]\\|[.]\\).*\n" :capability-command "HELP\r\n" :success "^3" :starttls-function (lambda (capabilities) (if (not (string-match "STARTTLS" capabilities)) nil "STARTTLS\r\n"))) First of all, I think the error message is lacking. It should say more about what's failing. As to the bug -- gnutls by default now refuses to deal with MD5 certificates. We could override that, and instead let the network security manager notify the user that the connection isn't safe. I think that's a better solution, but others may differ. 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