From unknown Thu Aug 14 18:38:14 2025 Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: MIME-tools 5.509 (Entity 5.509) Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 From: bug#2296 <2296@debbugs.gnu.org> To: bug#2296 <2296@debbugs.gnu.org> Subject: Status: 23.0.90; x-pointer-shape is not defined in emacs -Q Reply-To: bug#2296 <2296@debbugs.gnu.org> Date: Fri, 15 Aug 2025 01:38:14 +0000 retitle 2296 23.0.90; x-pointer-shape is not defined in emacs -Q reassign 2296 emacs submitter 2296 "Drew Adams" severity 2296 minor tag 2296 notabug wontfix thanks From drew.adams@oracle.com Wed Feb 11 15:41:00 2009 Received: (at submit) by emacsbugs.donarmstrong.com; 11 Feb 2009 23:41:00 +0000 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.2.5-bugs.debian.org_2005_01_02 (2008-06-10) on rzlab.ucr.edu X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Bayes: score:0.5 Bayes not run. spammytokens:Tokens not available. hammytokens:Tokens not available. X-Spam-Status: No, score=0.1 required=4.0 tests=FOURLA autolearn=no version=3.2.5-bugs.debian.org_2005_01_02 Received: from fencepost.gnu.org (fencepost.gnu.org [140.186.70.10]) by rzlab.ucr.edu (8.13.8/8.13.8/Debian-3) with ESMTP id n1BNevsO019640 for ; Wed, 11 Feb 2009 15:40:58 -0800 Received: from mail.gnu.org ([199.232.76.166]:42853 helo=mx10.gnu.org) by fencepost.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.67) (envelope-from ) id 1LXOfT-0001bz-5N for emacs-pretest-bug@gnu.org; Wed, 11 Feb 2009 18:38:59 -0500 Received: from Debian-exim by monty-python.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.60) (envelope-from ) id 1LXOhL-0003HC-7O for emacs-pretest-bug@gnu.org; Wed, 11 Feb 2009 18:40:56 -0500 Received: from rcsinet12.oracle.com ([148.87.113.124]:44189 helo=rgminet12.oracle.com) by monty-python.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS-1.0:DHE_RSA_AES_256_CBC_SHA1:32) (Exim 4.60) (envelope-from ) id 1LXOhK-0003H8-UK for emacs-pretest-bug@gnu.org; Wed, 11 Feb 2009 18:40:55 -0500 Received: from acsinet13.oracle.com (acsinet13.oracle.com [141.146.126.235]) by rgminet12.oracle.com (Switch-3.3.1/Switch-3.3.1) with ESMTP id n1BNeOKf020267 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA bits=256 verify=OK) for ; Wed, 11 Feb 2009 23:40:25 GMT Received: from acsmt705.oracle.com (acsmt705.oracle.com [141.146.40.83]) by acsinet13.oracle.com (Switch-3.3.1/Switch-3.3.1) with ESMTP id n1BNer2d007804 for ; Wed, 11 Feb 2009 23:40:54 GMT Received: from dradamslap1 (/130.35.178.194) by default (Oracle Beehive Gateway v4.0) with ESMTP ; Wed, 11 Feb 2009 23:40:48 +0000 From: "Drew Adams" To: Subject: 23.0.90; x-pointer-shape is not defined in emacs -Q Date: Wed, 11 Feb 2009 15:40:49 -0800 Message-ID: <006f01c98ca2$2ba5b340$c2b22382@us.oracle.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: Microsoft Office Outlook 11 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.3350 Thread-Index: AcmMois6BvU2rjakSXWmzHngdfrrSg== X-Source-IP: acsmt705.oracle.com [141.146.40.83] X-Auth-Type: Internal IP X-CT-RefId: str=0001.0A09020A.49936202.0078:SCFSTAT928724,ss=1,fgs=0 X-detected-operating-system: by monty-python.gnu.org: GNU/Linux 2.6 (newer, 1) This is a regression. In every version of Emacs from 20 through 22, `x-pointer-shape' is a defined variable when you start Emacs. On MS Windows, at least, its default value is nil. In Emacs 23 (on MS Windows, at least), evaluating `x-pointer-shape' gives a void-variable error. Debugger entered--Lisp error: (void-variable x-pointer-shape) eval(x-pointer-shape) eval-expression(x-pointer-shape nil) call-interactively(eval-expression nil nil) In GNU Emacs 23.0.90.1 (i386-mingw-nt5.1.2600) of 2009-02-01 on SOFT-MJASON Windowing system distributor `Microsoft Corp.', version 5.1.2600 configured using `configure --with-gcc (3.4)' From jasonrumney@gmail.com Thu Feb 12 04:35:36 2009 Received: (at 2296) by emacsbugs.donarmstrong.com; 12 Feb 2009 12:35:36 +0000 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.2.5-bugs.debian.org_2005_01_02 (2008-06-10) on rzlab.ucr.edu X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Bayes: score:0.5 Bayes not run. spammytokens:Tokens not available. hammytokens:Tokens not available. 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([118.101.26.137]) by mx.google.com with ESMTPS id w5sm758118tib.25.2009.02.12.04.35.20 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=RC4-MD5); Thu, 12 Feb 2009 04:35:21 -0800 (PST) Sender: Jason Rumney Message-ID: <499416F0.3080207@gnu.org> Date: Thu, 12 Feb 2009 20:32:48 +0800 From: Jason Rumney User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.19 (Windows/20081209) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Drew Adams , 2296@debbugs.gnu.org Subject: Re: bug#2296: 23.0.90; x-pointer-shape is not defined in emacs -Q References: <006f01c98ca2$2ba5b340$c2b22382@us.oracle.com> In-Reply-To: <006f01c98ca2$2ba5b340$c2b22382@us.oracle.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit tags 2296 +notabug +wontfix thanks Drew Adams wrote: > This is a regression. In every version of Emacs from 20 through 22, > `x-pointer-shape' is a defined variable when you start Emacs. Only when compiled with X support, as its name implies. Due to a copy and paste bug, it was defined but unused on Windows also in previous versions, but this bug has been fixed, as you have noticed. From jasonrumney@gmail.com Thu Feb 12 05:09:02 2009 Received: (at control) by emacsbugs.donarmstrong.com; 12 Feb 2009 13:09:02 +0000 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.2.5-bugs.debian.org_2005_01_02 (2008-06-10) on rzlab.ucr.edu X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Bayes: score:0.5 Bayes not run. spammytokens:Tokens not available. hammytokens:Tokens not available. 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X-Spam-Status: No, score=-2.9 required=4.0 tests=FOURLA,HAS_BUG_NUMBER autolearn=ham version=3.2.5-bugs.debian.org_2005_01_02 Received: from rgminet12.oracle.com (rcsinet12.oracle.com [148.87.113.124]) by rzlab.ucr.edu (8.13.8/8.13.8/Debian-3) with ESMTP id n1CGcfM1015364 for <2296@emacsbugs.donarmstrong.com>; Thu, 12 Feb 2009 08:38:42 -0800 Received: from rgminet15.oracle.com (rcsinet15.oracle.com [148.87.113.117]) by rgminet12.oracle.com (Switch-3.3.1/Switch-3.3.1) with ESMTP id n1CGc6Ps014820 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA bits=256 verify=OK); Thu, 12 Feb 2009 16:38:07 GMT Received: from acsmt701.oracle.com (acsmt701.oracle.com [141.146.40.71]) by rgminet15.oracle.com (Switch-3.3.1/Switch-3.3.1) with ESMTP id n1CGcTSG010930; Thu, 12 Feb 2009 16:38:32 GMT Received: from dradamslap1 (/130.35.178.194) by default (Oracle Beehive Gateway v4.0) with ESMTP ; Thu, 12 Feb 2009 08:38:27 -0800 From: "Drew Adams" To: "'Jason Rumney'" , <2296@debbugs.gnu.org> References: <006f01c98ca2$2ba5b340$c2b22382@us.oracle.com> <499416F0.3080207@gnu.org> Subject: RE: bug#2296: 23.0.90; x-pointer-shape is not defined in emacs -Q Date: Thu, 12 Feb 2009 08:38:29 -0800 Message-ID: <00b901c98d30$566472e0$c2b22382@us.oracle.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: Microsoft Office Outlook 11 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.3350 In-Reply-To: <499416F0.3080207@gnu.org> Thread-Index: AcmNDmrwNEfKf7VLTDGgVZlW2ovz8QAIULLw X-Source-IP: acsmt701.oracle.com [141.146.40.71] X-Auth-Type: Internal IP X-CT-RefId: str=0001.0A090206.49945088.0248:SCFSTAT928724,ss=1,fgs=0 > From: Jason Rumney Sent: Thursday, February 12, 2009 4:33 AM > tags 2296 +notabug +wontfix > thanks > > Drew Adams wrote: > > This is a regression. In every version of Emacs from 20 through 22, > > `x-pointer-shape' is a defined variable when you start Emacs. > > Only when compiled with X support, as its name implies. Due to a copy > and paste bug, it was defined but unused on Windows also in previous > versions, but this bug has been fixed, as you have noticed. Fair enough. I don't mind fixing my own code to test using boundp now. But this is likely to break other code as well. Code that simply tested whether the value was non-nil as a safeguard must now be changed to test using boundp as a safeguard instead. A boundp test previously would not have worked (since it was bound to nil on Windows). So whether considered as a bug fix or not, it is an incompatible change, one that code which uses x-pointer-shape must accommodate. Perhaps the change should be called out in NEWS. 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