From unknown Tue Jun 24 20:55:21 2025 X-Loop: owner@emacsbugs.donarmstrong.com Subject: bug#2291: 23.0.90; finder-commentary Reply-To: "Drew Adams" , 2291@debbugs.gnu.org Resent-From: "Drew Adams" Resent-To: bug-submit-list@lists.donarmstrong.com Resent-CC: Emacs Bugs Resent-Date: Wed, 11 Feb 2009 18:45:02 +0000 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-Sender: help-debbugs@gnu.org X-Emacs-PR-Message: report 2291 X-Emacs-PR-Package: emacs X-Emacs-PR-Keywords: Received: via spool by submit@emacsbugs.donarmstrong.com id=B.12343774077860 (code B ref -1); Wed, 11 Feb 2009 18:45:02 +0000 Received: (at submit) by emacsbugs.donarmstrong.com; 11 Feb 2009 18:36:47 +0000 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.2.5-bugs.debian.org_2005_01_02 (2008-06-10) on rzlab.ucr.edu X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Bayes: score:0.5 Bayes not run. spammytokens:Tokens not available. hammytokens:Tokens not available. 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This sexp in finder-commentary is inappropriate: (delete-other-windows). The original buffer is current when this is called, and it makes no sense to delete the other windows. And the call is immediately followed by pop-to-buffer to display and select the Finder commentary buffer. 2. The Commentary buffer name should not be "*Finder-package*". That prohibits you from having more than one such buffer. Also, the name should reflect the content: this is the Commentary section of a particular Lisp file. Please use something like this: (pop-to-buffer (concat "*Commentary, " (file-name-sans-extension file) "*")) instead of this: (pop-to-buffer "*Finder-package*") The result will then be a name like this: *Commentary, buff-menu* Among other things, being able to have more than one Finder commentary buffer lets you use the Commentary section of Lisp files for documentation that refers to other Lisp file Commentary sections. With a simple link facility (e.g. `linkd.el' or Org mode), this doc becomes hypertext among Commentary sections, each in Finder mode, with the comment characters removed etc. In GNU Emacs 23.0.90.1 (i386-mingw-nt5.1.2600) of 2009-02-01 on SOFT-MJASON Windowing system distributor `Microsoft Corp.', version 5.1.2600 configured using `configure --with-gcc (3.4)' From unknown Tue Jun 24 20:55:21 2025 X-Loop: owner@emacsbugs.donarmstrong.com Subject: bug#2291: 23.0.90; finder-commentary Reply-To: "Drew Adams" , 2291@debbugs.gnu.org Resent-From: "Drew Adams" Resent-To: bug-submit-list@lists.donarmstrong.com Resent-CC: Emacs Bugs Resent-Date: Wed, 11 Feb 2009 23:45:03 +0000 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-Sender: help-debbugs@gnu.org X-Emacs-PR-Message: followup 2291 X-Emacs-PR-Package: emacs X-Emacs-PR-Keywords: Received: via spool by submit@emacsbugs.donarmstrong.com id=B.123439536618436 (code B ref -1); Wed, 11 Feb 2009 23:45:03 +0000 Received: (at submit) by emacsbugs.donarmstrong.com; 11 Feb 2009 23:36:06 +0000 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.2.5-bugs.debian.org_2005_01_02 (2008-06-10) on rzlab.ucr.edu X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Bayes: score:0.5 Bayes not run. spammytokens:Tokens not available. hammytokens:Tokens not available. X-Spam-Status: No, score=-2.9 required=4.0 tests=FOURLA,HAS_BUG_NUMBER autolearn=unavailable version=3.2.5-bugs.debian.org_2005_01_02 Received: from fencepost.gnu.org (fencepost.gnu.org [140.186.70.10]) by rzlab.ucr.edu (8.13.8/8.13.8/Debian-3) with ESMTP id n1BNa2aJ018428 for ; Wed, 11 Feb 2009 15:36:03 -0800 Received: from mx10.gnu.org ([199.232.76.166]:42655) by fencepost.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.67) (envelope-from ) id 1LXOah-0001Tz-PN for emacs-pretest-bug@gnu.org; Wed, 11 Feb 2009 18:34:03 -0500 Received: from Debian-exim by monty-python.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.60) (envelope-from ) id 1LXOcZ-0002qg-9O for emacs-pretest-bug@gnu.org; Wed, 11 Feb 2009 18:36:01 -0500 Received: from acsinet11.oracle.com ([141.146.126.233]:65085) by monty-python.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS-1.0:DHE_RSA_AES_256_CBC_SHA1:32) (Exim 4.60) (envelope-from ) id 1LXOcY-0002qc-Sk for emacs-pretest-bug@gnu.org; Wed, 11 Feb 2009 18:35:59 -0500 Received: from rgminet15.oracle.com (rcsinet15.oracle.com [148.87.113.117]) by acsinet11.oracle.com (Switch-3.3.1/Switch-3.3.1) with ESMTP id n1BNZx8B004578 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA bits=256 verify=OK); Wed, 11 Feb 2009 23:36:01 GMT Received: from acsmt701.oracle.com (acsmt701.oracle.com [141.146.40.71]) by rgminet15.oracle.com (Switch-3.3.1/Switch-3.3.1) with ESMTP id n1BNZiMb011880; Wed, 11 Feb 2009 23:35:45 GMT Received: from dradamslap1 (/130.35.178.194) by default (Oracle Beehive Gateway v4.0) with ESMTP ; Wed, 11 Feb 2009 15:35:43 -0800 From: "Drew Adams" To: <2291@debbugs.gnu.org>, References: <004e01c98c77$a84e2420$c2b22382@us.oracle.com> Date: Wed, 11 Feb 2009 15:35:44 -0800 Message-ID: <006e01c98ca1$75da64c0$c2b22382@us.oracle.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: Microsoft Office Outlook 11 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.3350 In-Reply-To: <004e01c98c77$a84e2420$c2b22382@us.oracle.com> Thread-Index: AcmMd6Ue04g1vK3nQeWLpwsL+fi/OAAKJqRg X-Source-IP: acsmt701.oracle.com [141.146.40.71] X-Auth-Type: Internal IP X-CT-RefId: str=0001.0A090201.499360D1.01A5:SCFSTAT928724,ss=1,fgs=0 X-detected-operating-system: by monty-python.gnu.org: GNU/Linux 2.6 (newer, 1) I forgot to mention this: 3. The doc string of `finder-commentary' does not describe argument LIBRARY. The doc string: "Display FILE's commentary section. FILE should be in a form suitable for passing to `locate-library'." But the doc string of `locate-library' also does not say what is suitable for its LIBRARY argument: "Show the precise file name of Emacs library LIBRARY. This command searches the directories in `load-path' like `M-x load-library' to find the file that `M-x load-library RET LIBRARY RET' would load. Optional second arg NOSUFFIX non-nil means don't add suffixes `load-suffixes' to the specified name LIBRARY. If the optional third arg PATH is specified, that list of directories is used instead of `load-path'. When called from a program, the file name is normally returned as a string. When run interactively, the argument INTERACTIVE-CALL is t, and the file name is displayed in the echo area." That says absolutely nothing about argument LIBRARY, except that it is a library. However, it refers you to `load-library'. But the doc string of `load-library' also says absolutely nothing about argument LIBRARY. It refers you to `load'... The user should be told, somewhere along the line (preferably everywhere, if short), just which Lisp objects are acceptable as values of argument LIBRARY. From unknown Tue Jun 24 20:55:21 2025 X-Loop: owner@emacsbugs.donarmstrong.com Subject: bug#2291: 23.0.90; finder-commentary Reply-To: Eli Zaretskii , 2291@debbugs.gnu.org Resent-From: Eli Zaretskii Resent-To: bug-submit-list@lists.donarmstrong.com Resent-CC: Emacs Bugs Resent-Date: Fri, 13 Feb 2009 15:25:04 +0000 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-Sender: help-debbugs@gnu.org X-Emacs-PR-Message: followup 2291 X-Emacs-PR-Package: emacs X-Emacs-PR-Keywords: Received: via spool by 2291-submit@emacsbugs.donarmstrong.com id=B2291.123453840915816 (code B ref 2291); Fri, 13 Feb 2009 15:25:04 +0000 Received: (at 2291) by emacsbugs.donarmstrong.com; 13 Feb 2009 15:20:09 +0000 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.2.5-bugs.debian.org_2005_01_02 (2008-06-10) on rzlab.ucr.edu X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Bayes: score:0.5 Bayes not run. spammytokens:Tokens not available. hammytokens:Tokens not available. X-Spam-Status: No, score=-2.9 required=4.0 tests=FOURLA,HAS_BUG_NUMBER autolearn=ham version=3.2.5-bugs.debian.org_2005_01_02 Received: from mtaout5.012.net.il (mtaout5.012.net.il [84.95.2.13]) by rzlab.ucr.edu (8.13.8/8.13.8/Debian-3) with ESMTP id n1DFK2Oj015250 for <2291@emacsbugs.donarmstrong.com>; Fri, 13 Feb 2009 07:20:04 -0800 Received: from conversion-daemon.i_mtaout5.012.net.il by i_mtaout5.012.net.il (HyperSendmail v2004.12) id <0KF000C00FPPX700@i_mtaout5.012.net.il> for 2291@emacsbugs.donarmstrong.com; Fri, 13 Feb 2009 17:20:15 +0200 (IST) Received: from HOME-C4E4A596F7 ([84.229.24.112]) by i_mtaout5.012.net.il (HyperSendmail v2004.12) with ESMTPA id <0KF00021AFXMGXG0@i_mtaout5.012.net.il>; Fri, 13 Feb 2009 17:20:11 +0200 (IST) Date: Fri, 13 Feb 2009 17:19:55 +0200 From: Eli Zaretskii In-reply-to: <006e01c98ca1$75da64c0$c2b22382@us.oracle.com> X-012-Sender: halo1@inter.net.il To: Drew Adams , 2291@debbugs.gnu.org Message-id: References: <004e01c98c77$a84e2420$c2b22382@us.oracle.com> <006e01c98ca1$75da64c0$c2b22382@us.oracle.com> > From: "Drew Adams" > Date: Wed, 11 Feb 2009 15:35:44 -0800 > Cc: > > I forgot to mention this: > > 3. The doc string of `finder-commentary' does not describe argument LIBRARY. The > doc string: > > "Display FILE's commentary section. > FILE should be in a form suitable for passing to `locate-library'." > > But the doc string of `locate-library' also does not say what is suitable for > its LIBRARY argument: > > "Show the precise file name of Emacs library LIBRARY. > This command searches the directories in `load-path' like `M-x load-library' > to find the file that `M-x load-library RET LIBRARY RET' would load. > Optional second arg NOSUFFIX non-nil means don't add suffixes `load-suffixes' > to the specified name LIBRARY. > > If the optional third arg PATH is specified, that list of directories > is used instead of `load-path'. > > When called from a program, the file name is normally returned as a > string. When run interactively, the argument INTERACTIVE-CALL is t, > and the file name is displayed in the echo area." > > That says absolutely nothing about argument LIBRARY, except that it is a > library. However, it refers you to `load-library'. But the doc string of > `load-library' also says absolutely nothing about argument LIBRARY. It refers > you to `load'... > > The user should be told, somewhere along the line (preferably everywhere, if > short), just which Lisp objects are acceptable as values of argument LIBRARY. I fixed the doc strings of `load-library' and `locate-library'. From unknown Tue Jun 24 20:55:21 2025 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: MIME-tools 5.420 (Entity 5.420) X-Loop: owner@emacsbugs.donarmstrong.com From: help-debbugs@gnu.org (Emacs bug Tracking System) To: "Drew Adams" Subject: bug#2291 closed by Chong Yidong (Re: 23.0.90; finder-commentary) Message-ID: References: <87iqmjokga.fsf@cyd.mit.edu> <004e01c98c77$a84e2420$c2b22382@us.oracle.com> X-Emacs-PR-Message: they-closed 2291 X-Emacs-PR-Package: emacs Reply-To: 2291@debbugs.gnu.org Date: Sun, 08 Mar 2009 20:05:08 +0000 Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="----------=_1236542708-13044-1" This is a multi-part message in MIME format... ------------=_1236542708-13044-1 Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8" This is an automatic notification regarding your bug report which was filed against the emacs package: #2291: 23.0.90; finder-commentary It has been closed by Chong Yidong . Their explanation is attached below along with your original report. If this explanation is unsatisfactory and you have not received a better one in a separate message then please contact Chong Yidong by replying to this email. --=20 2291: http://debbugs.gnu.org/cgi/bugreport.cgi?bug=3D2291 Emacs Bug Tracking System Contact help-debbugs@gnu.org with problems ------------=_1236542708-13044-1 Content-Type: message/rfc822 Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Received: (at 2291-done) by emacsbugs.donarmstrong.com; 8 Mar 2009 19:57:35 +0000 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.2.5-bugs.debian.org_2005_01_02 (2008-06-10) on rzlab.ucr.edu X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Bayes: score:0.5 Bayes not run. spammytokens:Tokens not available. hammytokens:Tokens not available. X-Spam-Status: No, score=0.0 required=4.0 tests=none autolearn=ham version=3.2.5-bugs.debian.org_2005_01_02 Received: from cyd.mit.edu (CYD.MIT.EDU [18.115.2.24]) by rzlab.ucr.edu (8.13.8/8.13.8/Debian-3) with ESMTP id n28JvX1O011263 for <2291-done@emacsbugs.donarmstrong.com>; Sun, 8 Mar 2009 12:57:34 -0700 Received: by cyd.mit.edu (Postfix, from userid 1000) id 1F3A257E205; Sun, 8 Mar 2009 15:58:45 -0400 (EDT) From: Chong Yidong To: "Drew Adams" Cc: 2291-done@debbugs.gnu.org Subject: Re: 23.0.90; finder-commentary Date: Sun, 08 Mar 2009 15:58:45 -0400 Message-ID: <87iqmjokga.fsf@cyd.mit.edu> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii > 1. This sexp in finder-commentary is inappropriate: > (delete-other-windows). I've removed it. Thanks for pointing this out. > 2. The Commentary buffer name should not be "*Finder-package*". That > prohibits you from having more than one such buffer. That would be problematic, as it leaves a trail of finder-commentary buffers that you have to delete manually. That's the same reason we don't uniquify *Help* buffers. ------------=_1236542708-13044-1 Content-Type: message/rfc822 Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Received: (at submit) by emacsbugs.donarmstrong.com; 11 Feb 2009 18:36:47 +0000 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.2.5-bugs.debian.org_2005_01_02 (2008-06-10) on rzlab.ucr.edu X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Bayes: score:0.5 Bayes not run. spammytokens:Tokens not available. hammytokens:Tokens not available. 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This sexp in finder-commentary is inappropriate: (delete-other-windows). The original buffer is current when this is called, and it makes no sense to delete the other windows. And the call is immediately followed by pop-to-buffer to display and select the Finder commentary buffer. 2. The Commentary buffer name should not be "*Finder-package*". That prohibits you from having more than one such buffer. Also, the name should reflect the content: this is the Commentary section of a particular Lisp file. Please use something like this: (pop-to-buffer (concat "*Commentary, " (file-name-sans-extension file) "*")) instead of this: (pop-to-buffer "*Finder-package*") The result will then be a name like this: *Commentary, buff-menu* Among other things, being able to have more than one Finder commentary buffer lets you use the Commentary section of Lisp files for documentation that refers to other Lisp file Commentary sections. With a simple link facility (e.g. `linkd.el' or Org mode), this doc becomes hypertext among Commentary sections, each in Finder mode, with the comment characters removed etc. In GNU Emacs 23.0.90.1 (i386-mingw-nt5.1.2600) of 2009-02-01 on SOFT-MJASON Windowing system distributor `Microsoft Corp.', version 5.1.2600 configured using `configure --with-gcc (3.4)' ------------=_1236542708-13044-1-- From drew.adams@oracle.com Sun Mar 8 13:27:08 2009 Received: (at control) by emacsbugs.donarmstrong.com; 8 Mar 2009 20:27:09 +0000 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.2.5-bugs.debian.org_2005_01_02 (2008-06-10) on rzlab.ucr.edu X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Bayes: score:0.5 Bayes not run. spammytokens:Tokens not available. hammytokens:Tokens not available. 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X-Spam-Status: No, score=-2.0 required=4.0 tests=VALID_BTS_CONTROL autolearn=ham version=3.2.5-bugs.debian.org_2005_01_02 Received: from cyd.mit.edu (CYD.MIT.EDU [18.115.2.24]) by rzlab.ucr.edu (8.13.8/8.13.8/Debian-3) with ESMTP id n2R2vB98003229 for ; Thu, 26 Mar 2009 19:57:12 -0700 Received: by cyd.mit.edu (Postfix, from userid 1000) id E856357E245; Thu, 26 Mar 2009 22:58:40 -0400 (EDT) From: Chong Yidong To: control@debbugs.gnu.org Subject: Reassign bugs Date: Thu, 26 Mar 2009 22:58:40 -0400 Message-ID: <87myb7u0wv.fsf@cyd.mit.edu> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii severity 1650 serious severity 1654 serious close 1723 severity 1785 serious severity 2148 serious tags 2149 moreinfo severity 2291 wishlist severity 2643 wishlist thanks From unknown Tue Jun 24 20:55:21 2025 X-Loop: help-debbugs@gnu.org Subject: bug#2291: 23.0.90; finder-commentary Resent-From: Lars Ingebrigtsen Original-Sender: "Debbugs-submit" Resent-CC: bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org Resent-Date: Wed, 27 Apr 2016 17:44:02 +0000 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-Sender: help-debbugs@gnu.org X-GNU-PR-Message: followup 2291 X-GNU-PR-Package: emacs X-GNU-PR-Keywords: To: "Drew Adams" Cc: 2291@debbugs.gnu.org Received: via spool by 2291-submit@debbugs.gnu.org id=B2291.146177899425569 (code B ref 2291); Wed, 27 Apr 2016 17:44:02 +0000 Received: (at 2291) by debbugs.gnu.org; 27 Apr 2016 17:43:14 +0000 Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:50422 helo=debbugs.gnu.org) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1avTUY-0006eL-D9 for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Wed, 27 Apr 2016 13:43:14 -0400 Received: from hermes.netfonds.no ([80.91.224.195]:47021) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1avTUV-0006eB-TM for 2291@debbugs.gnu.org; Wed, 27 Apr 2016 13:43:12 -0400 Received: from cm-84.215.1.64.getinternet.no ([84.215.1.64] helo=mouse) by hermes.netfonds.no with esmtpsa (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_128_GCM_SHA256:128) (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1avTUR-0000bO-Hm; Wed, 27 Apr 2016 19:43:10 +0200 From: Lars Ingebrigtsen References: <004e01c98c77$a84e2420$c2b22382@us.oracle.com> Date: Wed, 27 Apr 2016 19:43:07 +0200 In-Reply-To: <004e01c98c77$a84e2420$c2b22382@us.oracle.com> (Drew Adams's message of "Wed, 11 Feb 2009 10:36:25 -0800") Message-ID: <87wpnjeyms.fsf@gnus.org> User-Agent: Gnus/5.13 (Gnus v5.13) Emacs/25.1.50 (gnu/linux) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain X-Spam-Score: 0.0 (/) X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18 Precedence: list List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Sender: "Debbugs-submit" X-Spam-Score: 0.0 (/) "Drew Adams" writes: > 1. This sexp in finder-commentary is inappropriate: > (delete-other-windows). The original buffer is current when this is > called, and it makes no sense to delete the other windows. And the > call is immediately followed by pop-to-buffer to display and select > the Finder commentary buffer. This looks like it's fixed now? > 2. The Commentary buffer name should not be "*Finder-package*". That > prohibits you from having more than one such buffer. Also, the name > should reflect the content: this is the Commentary section of a > particular Lisp file. Please use something like this: > > (pop-to-buffer > (concat "*Commentary, " (file-name-sans-extension file) "*")) > > instead of this: > (pop-to-buffer "*Finder-package*") > > The result will then be a name like this: *Commentary, buff-menu* Wouldn't it make more sense just to use the *Help* buffer? It has a nice history and stuff... -- (domestic pets only, the antidote for overdose, milk.) bloggy blog: http://lars.ingebrigtsen.no From unknown Tue Jun 24 20:55:21 2025 X-Loop: help-debbugs@gnu.org Subject: bug#2291: 23.0.90; finder-commentary Resent-From: Drew Adams Original-Sender: "Debbugs-submit" Resent-CC: bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org Resent-Date: Wed, 27 Apr 2016 17:54:01 +0000 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-Sender: help-debbugs@gnu.org X-GNU-PR-Message: followup 2291 X-GNU-PR-Package: emacs X-GNU-PR-Keywords: To: Lars Ingebrigtsen Cc: 2291@debbugs.gnu.org Received: via spool by 2291-submit@debbugs.gnu.org id=B2291.146177962227245 (code B ref 2291); Wed, 27 Apr 2016 17:54:01 +0000 Received: (at 2291) by debbugs.gnu.org; 27 Apr 2016 17:53:42 +0000 Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:50449 helo=debbugs.gnu.org) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1avTeg-00075M-DJ for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Wed, 27 Apr 2016 13:53:42 -0400 Received: from aserp1040.oracle.com ([141.146.126.69]:32934) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1avTee-00075A-7d for 2291@debbugs.gnu.org; Wed, 27 Apr 2016 13:53:40 -0400 Received: from userv0021.oracle.com (userv0021.oracle.com [156.151.31.71]) by aserp1040.oracle.com (Sentrion-MTA-4.3.2/Sentrion-MTA-4.3.2) with ESMTP id u3RHrXNQ031225 (version=TLSv1 cipher=DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA bits=256 verify=OK); Wed, 27 Apr 2016 17:53:34 GMT Received: from aserv0121.oracle.com (aserv0121.oracle.com [141.146.126.235]) by userv0021.oracle.com (8.13.8/8.13.8) with ESMTP id u3RHrXuZ032116 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA bits=256 verify=OK); Wed, 27 Apr 2016 17:53:33 GMT Received: from abhmp0005.oracle.com (abhmp0005.oracle.com [141.146.116.11]) by aserv0121.oracle.com (8.13.8/8.13.8) with ESMTP id u3RHrVnf022514; Wed, 27 Apr 2016 17:53:32 GMT MIME-Version: 1.0 Message-ID: Date: Wed, 27 Apr 2016 10:53:30 -0700 (PDT) From: Drew Adams References: <004e01c98c77$a84e2420$c2b22382@us.oracle.com> <87wpnjeyms.fsf@gnus.org> In-Reply-To: <87wpnjeyms.fsf@gnus.org> X-Priority: 3 X-Mailer: Oracle Beehive Extensions for Outlook 2.0.1.9 (901082) [OL 12.0.6744.5000 (x86)] Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-Source-IP: userv0021.oracle.com [156.151.31.71] X-Spam-Score: -3.3 (---) X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18 Precedence: list List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Sender: "Debbugs-submit" X-Spam-Score: -3.3 (---) > > 1. This sexp in finder-commentary is inappropriate: > > (delete-other-windows). The original buffer is current when this is > > called, and it makes no sense to delete the other windows. And the > > call is immediately followed by pop-to-buffer to display and select > > the Finder commentary buffer. >=20 > This looks like it's fixed now? Yes, I guess so - it seems to have been removed in Emacs 23. Dunno whether the bad effect is gone, but I'll assume so. > > 2. The Commentary buffer name should not be "*Finder-package*". That > > prohibits you from having more than one such buffer. Also, the name > > should reflect the content: this is the Commentary section of a > > particular Lisp file. Please use something like this: > > > > (pop-to-buffer > > (concat "*Commentary, " (file-name-sans-extension file) "*")) > > > > instead of this: > > (pop-to-buffer "*Finder-package*") > > > > The result will then be a name like this: *Commentary, buff-menu* >=20 > Wouldn't it make more sense just to use the *Help* buffer? It has a > nice history and stuff... No, certainly not. It should be commentary-specific, and file-specific, as described in the bug report. From unknown Tue Jun 24 20:55:21 2025 X-Loop: help-debbugs@gnu.org Subject: bug#2291: 23.0.90; finder-commentary Resent-From: Lars Ingebrigtsen Original-Sender: "Debbugs-submit" Resent-CC: bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org Resent-Date: Wed, 27 Apr 2016 17:59:02 +0000 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-Sender: help-debbugs@gnu.org X-GNU-PR-Message: followup 2291 X-GNU-PR-Package: emacs X-GNU-PR-Keywords: To: Drew Adams Cc: 2291@debbugs.gnu.org Received: via spool by 2291-submit@debbugs.gnu.org id=B2291.146177993027782 (code B ref 2291); Wed, 27 Apr 2016 17:59:02 +0000 Received: (at 2291) by debbugs.gnu.org; 27 Apr 2016 17:58:50 +0000 Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:50468 helo=debbugs.gnu.org) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1avTjd-0007E2-Nj for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Wed, 27 Apr 2016 13:58:49 -0400 Received: from hermes.netfonds.no ([80.91.224.195]:47196) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1avTjc-0007Dv-Go for 2291@debbugs.gnu.org; Wed, 27 Apr 2016 13:58:48 -0400 Received: from cm-84.215.1.64.getinternet.no ([84.215.1.64] helo=mouse) by hermes.netfonds.no with esmtpsa (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_128_GCM_SHA256:128) (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1avTjZ-0000oi-P5; Wed, 27 Apr 2016 19:58:47 +0200 From: Lars Ingebrigtsen References: <004e01c98c77$a84e2420$c2b22382@us.oracle.com> <87wpnjeyms.fsf@gnus.org> Date: Wed, 27 Apr 2016 19:58:45 +0200 In-Reply-To: (Drew Adams's message of "Wed, 27 Apr 2016 10:53:30 -0700 (PDT)") Message-ID: <87fuu7exwq.fsf@gnus.org> User-Agent: Gnus/5.13 (Gnus v5.13) Emacs/25.1.50 (gnu/linux) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain X-Spam-Score: 0.0 (/) X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18 Precedence: list List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Sender: "Debbugs-submit" X-Spam-Score: 0.0 (/) Drew Adams writes: >> > 2. The Commentary buffer name should not be "*Finder-package*". That >> > prohibits you from having more than one such buffer. Also, the name >> > should reflect the content: this is the Commentary section of a >> > particular Lisp file. Please use something like this: >> > >> > (pop-to-buffer >> > (concat "*Commentary, " (file-name-sans-extension file) "*")) >> > >> > instead of this: >> > (pop-to-buffer "*Finder-package*") >> > >> > The result will then be a name like this: *Commentary, buff-menu* >> >> Wouldn't it make more sense just to use the *Help* buffer? It has a >> nice history and stuff... > > No, certainly not. It should be commentary-specific, and file-specific, > as described in the bug report. It would be unusual. Most of these help-ish commands reuse the same buffer, and if you want to keep several of them around, you just rename the buffer yourself. So I don't think there's anything more to be done on this report. -- (domestic pets only, the antidote for overdose, milk.) bloggy blog: http://lars.ingebrigtsen.no From debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Wed Apr 27 13:59:00 2016 Received: (at control) by debbugs.gnu.org; 27 Apr 2016 17:59:00 +0000 Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:50471 helo=debbugs.gnu.org) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1avTjn-0007EU-VH for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Wed, 27 Apr 2016 13:59:00 -0400 Received: from hermes.netfonds.no ([80.91.224.195]:47208) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1avTjm-0007EL-5e for control@debbugs.gnu.org; Wed, 27 Apr 2016 13:58:58 -0400 Received: from cm-84.215.1.64.getinternet.no ([84.215.1.64] helo=mouse) by hermes.netfonds.no with esmtpsa (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_128_GCM_SHA256:128) (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1avTjj-0000ow-UJ for control@debbugs.gnu.org; Wed, 27 Apr 2016 19:58:57 +0200 Date: Wed, 27 Apr 2016 19:58:55 +0200 Message-Id: <87eg9rexwg.fsf@gnus.org> To: control@debbugs.gnu.org From: Lars Ingebrigtsen Subject: control message for bug #2291 X-Spam-Score: 0.0 (/) X-Debbugs-Envelope-To: control X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18 Precedence: list List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Sender: "Debbugs-submit" X-Spam-Score: 0.0 (/) close 2291 From unknown Tue Jun 24 20:55:21 2025 X-Loop: help-debbugs@gnu.org Subject: bug#2291: 23.0.90; finder-commentary Resent-From: Drew Adams Original-Sender: "Debbugs-submit" Resent-CC: bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org Resent-Date: Wed, 27 Apr 2016 18:06:02 +0000 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-Sender: help-debbugs@gnu.org X-GNU-PR-Message: followup 2291 X-GNU-PR-Package: emacs X-GNU-PR-Keywords: To: Lars Ingebrigtsen Cc: 2291@debbugs.gnu.org Received: via spool by 2291-submit@debbugs.gnu.org id=B2291.14617803282362 (code B ref 2291); Wed, 27 Apr 2016 18:06:02 +0000 Received: (at 2291) by debbugs.gnu.org; 27 Apr 2016 18:05:28 +0000 Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:50483 helo=debbugs.gnu.org) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1avTq3-0000c2-Sg for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Wed, 27 Apr 2016 14:05:28 -0400 Received: from aserp1040.oracle.com ([141.146.126.69]:41571) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1avTq1-0000bn-MW for 2291@debbugs.gnu.org; Wed, 27 Apr 2016 14:05:26 -0400 Received: from aserv0022.oracle.com (aserv0022.oracle.com [141.146.126.234]) by aserp1040.oracle.com (Sentrion-MTA-4.3.2/Sentrion-MTA-4.3.2) with ESMTP id u3RI5Jtw017102 (version=TLSv1 cipher=DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA bits=256 verify=OK); Wed, 27 Apr 2016 18:05:19 GMT Received: from userv0122.oracle.com (userv0122.oracle.com [156.151.31.75]) by aserv0022.oracle.com (8.13.8/8.13.8) with ESMTP id u3RI5JXj020283 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA bits=256 verify=OK); Wed, 27 Apr 2016 18:05:19 GMT Received: from abhmp0005.oracle.com (abhmp0005.oracle.com [141.146.116.11]) by userv0122.oracle.com (8.14.4/8.14.4) with ESMTP id u3RI5Ido018783; Wed, 27 Apr 2016 18:05:18 GMT MIME-Version: 1.0 Message-ID: <5497a333-6d80-4627-8b31-681a96659d6e@default> Date: Wed, 27 Apr 2016 11:05:16 -0700 (PDT) From: Drew Adams References: <004e01c98c77$a84e2420$c2b22382@us.oracle.com> <87wpnjeyms.fsf@gnus.org> <87fuu7exwq.fsf@gnus.org> In-Reply-To: <87fuu7exwq.fsf@gnus.org> X-Priority: 3 X-Mailer: Oracle Beehive Extensions for Outlook 2.0.1.9 (901082) [OL 12.0.6744.5000 (x86)] Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-Source-IP: aserv0022.oracle.com [141.146.126.234] X-Spam-Score: -3.3 (---) X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18 Precedence: list List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Sender: "Debbugs-submit" X-Spam-Score: -3.3 (---) > >> Wouldn't it make more sense just to use the *Help* buffer? It has a > >> nice history and stuff... > > > > No, certainly not. It should be commentary-specific, and file-specific= , > > as described in the bug report. >=20 > It would be unusual. Most of these help-ish commands reuse the same > buffer, and if you want to keep several of them around, you just rename > the buffer yourself. >=20 > So I don't think there's anything more to be done on this report. This is nuts. `finder-commentary' is file-specific. Anyone who uses it (and admittedly it is underused - most users know nothing about its existence) uses it on multiple files. You might have noticed recently a bunch of mails about having multiple grep buffers etc. Well this is even more important than that - and simpler, as this is just file-specific. Each file should get its own finder-commentary buffer, named after it.