From unknown Mon Jun 23 13:09:19 2025 Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: MIME-tools 5.509 (Entity 5.509) Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 From: bug#2285 <2285@debbugs.gnu.org> To: bug#2285 <2285@debbugs.gnu.org> Subject: Status: 23.0.90; during configuration unwanted preference of /usr/X11 Reply-To: bug#2285 <2285@debbugs.gnu.org> Date: Mon, 23 Jun 2025 20:09:19 +0000 retitle 2285 23.0.90; during configuration unwanted preference of /usr/X11 reassign 2285 emacs submitter 2285 Peter Dyballa severity 2285 wishlist thanks From Peter_Dyballa@Freenet.DE Wed Feb 11 03:45:18 2009 Received: (at submit) by emacsbugs.donarmstrong.com; 11 Feb 2009 11:45:18 +0000 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.2.5-bugs.debian.org_2005_01_02 (2008-06-10) on rzlab.ucr.edu X-Spam-Level: * X-Spam-Bayes: score:0.5 Bayes not run. spammytokens:Tokens not available. hammytokens:Tokens not available. X-Spam-Status: No, score=1.1 required=4.0 tests=FOURLA,MULTALT autolearn=no version=3.2.5-bugs.debian.org_2005_01_02 Received: from fencepost.gnu.org (fencepost.gnu.org [140.186.70.10]) by rzlab.ucr.edu (8.13.8/8.13.8/Debian-3) with ESMTP id n1BBjCfp013635 for ; Wed, 11 Feb 2009 03:45:14 -0800 Received: from mail.gnu.org ([199.232.76.166]:38525 helo=mx10.gnu.org) by fencepost.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.67) (envelope-from ) id 1LXDUo-0008Ud-An for emacs-pretest-bug@gnu.org; Wed, 11 Feb 2009 06:43:15 -0500 Received: from Debian-exim by monty-python.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.60) (envelope-from ) id 1LXDWf-0003wF-Us for emacs-pretest-bug@gnu.org; Wed, 11 Feb 2009 06:45:11 -0500 Received: from mout4.freenet.de ([195.4.92.94]:49658) by monty-python.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS-1.0:DHE_RSA_AES_256_CBC_SHA1:32) (Exim 4.60) (envelope-from ) id 1LXDWf-0003vd-DS for emacs-pretest-bug@gnu.org; Wed, 11 Feb 2009 06:45:09 -0500 Received: from [195.4.92.24] (helo=14.mx.freenet.de) by mout4.freenet.de with esmtpa (ID peter_dyballa@freenet.de) (port 25) (Exim 4.69 #76) id 1LXDWd-0003jQ-LL for emacs-pretest-bug@gnu.org; Wed, 11 Feb 2009 12:45:07 +0100 Received: from p5b23d4cf.dip.t-dialin.net ([91.35.212.207]:64488 helo=[192.168.1.2]) by 14.mx.freenet.de with esmtpsa (ID peter_dyballa@freenet.de) (TLSv1:AES128-SHA:128) (port 25) (Exim 4.69 #76) id 1LXDWc-0002Ol-VQ for emacs-pretest-bug@gnu.org; Wed, 11 Feb 2009 12:45:07 +0100 Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v753.1) To: emacs-pretest-bug@gnu.org Message-Id: <97917D15-89E1-458A-B322-AD18BD7DB808@Freenet.DE> Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=Apple-Mail-1-494949921 From: Peter Dyballa Subject: 23.0.90; during configuration unwanted preference of /usr/X11 Date: Wed, 11 Feb 2009 12:45:03 +0100 X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.753.1) X-detected-operating-system: by monty-python.gnu.org: GNU/Linux 2.6 (newer, 2) --Apple-Mail-1-494949921 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII; delsp=yes; format=flowed Hello! When I configure GNU Emacs the script has an unwanted preference of / usr/X11 as default of the X11 installation. On my system, Mac OS X 10.4.11 (Tiger), this is a non-standard (non-Apple) installation of a self-compiled X11R7.4 (in Mac OS X 10.5, Leopard, it is the default; up to Tiger /usr/X11R6 is the default). Because of reasons I did not find yet any version of GNU Emacs built from a mix of /usr/X11 plus the usual /usr/X11R6 and /sw trees does not work, although the X11 I am running uses /usr/X11. So I have to rename /usr/X11 to /usr/X12, or such, that a useful GNU Emacs update gets configured. In GNU Emacs 23.0.90.1 (powerpc-apple-darwin8.11.0, GTK+ Version 2.14.7) of 2009-02-11 on localhost Windowing system distributor `The X.Org Foundation', version 11.0.10402000 configured using `configure '--without-sound' '--without-pop' '-- with-dbus' '--with-libotf' '--enable-locallisppath=/Library/ Application Support/Emacs/calendar23:/Library/Application Support/ Emacs' 'PKG_CONFIG_PATH=/opt/local/lib/pkgconfig:/usr/local/lib/ pkgconfig:/usr/lib/pkgconfig' 'CFLAGS=-Wno-pointer-sign -H -pipe - fPIC -mcpu=7450 -mtune=7450 -fast -mpim-altivec -ftree-vectorize - foptimize-register-move -freorder-blocks -freorder-blocks-and- partition -fthread-jumps -fpeephole -fno-crossjumping' 'CXXFLAGS=-no- cpp-precomp -I/opt/local/include' 'CPPFLAGS=-no-cpp-precomp -I/opt/ local/include' 'LDFLAGS=-dead_strip -multiply_defined suppress -L/opt/ local/lib' 'PKG_CONFIG=/opt/local/bin/pkg-config'' Important settings: value of $LC_ALL: nil value of $LC_COLLATE: nil value of $LC_CTYPE: de_DE.UTF-8 value of $LC_MESSAGES: nil value of $LC_MONETARY: nil value of $LC_NUMERIC: nil value of $LC_TIME: nil value of $LANG: de_DE.UTF-8 value of $XMODIFIERS: nil locale-coding-system: utf-8-unix default-enable-multibyte-characters: t Major mode: Man Minor modes in effect: show-paren-mode: t display-time-mode: t tooltip-mode: t tool-bar-mode: t mouse-wheel-mode: t file-name-shadow-mode: t global-font-lock-mode: t font-lock-mode: t blink-cursor-mode: t global-auto-composition-mode: t auto-composition-mode: t auto-encryption-mode: t auto-compression-mode: t column-number-mode: t line-number-mode: t transient-mark-mode: t -- Greetings Pete <\ \__ O __O | O\ _\\/\-% _`\<, '()-'-(_)--(_) (_)/(_) --Apple-Mail-1-494949921 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Type: text/html; charset=ISO-8859-1 Hello!

When I configure GNU Emacs the script has an = unwanted preference of /usr/X11 as default of the X11 installation. On = my system, Mac=A0OS=A0X 10.4.11 (Tiger), this is a non-standard = (non-Apple) installation of a self-compiled X11R7.4 (in Mac OS X 10.5, = Leopard, it is the default; up to Tiger /usr/X11R6 is the default). = Because of reasons I did not find yet any version of GNU Emacs built = from a mix of /usr/X11 plus the usual /usr/X11R6 and /sw trees does not = work, although the X11 I am running uses /usr/X11. So I have to rename = /usr/X11 to /usr/X12, or such, that a useful GNU Emacs update gets = configured.


In GNU Emacs = 23.0.90.1 (powerpc-apple-darwin8.11.0, GTK+ Version = 2.14.7)
=A0of 2009-02-11 on localhost
Windowing = system distributor `The X.Org Foundation', version = 11.0.10402000
configured using `configure =A0'--without-sound' = '--without-pop' '--with-dbus' '--with-libotf' = '--enable-locallisppath=3D/Library/Application = Support/Emacs/calendar23:/Library/Application Support/Emacs' = 'PKG_CONFIG_PATH=3D/opt/local/lib/pkgconfig:/usr/local/lib/pkgconfig:/usr/= lib/pkgconfig' 'CFLAGS=3D-Wno-pointer-sign -H -pipe -fPIC -mcpu=3D7450 = -mtune=3D7450 -fast -mpim-altivec -ftree-vectorize = -foptimize-register-move -freorder-blocks -freorder-blocks-and-partition = -fthread-jumps -fpeephole -fno-crossjumping' 'CXXFLAGS=3D-no-cpp-precomp = -I/opt/local/include' 'CPPFLAGS=3D-no-cpp-precomp -I/opt/local/include' = 'LDFLAGS=3D-dead_strip -multiply_defined suppress -L/opt/local/lib' = 'PKG_CONFIG=3D/opt/local/bin/pkg-config''

Importa= nt settings:
=A0=A0value of $LC_ALL: nil
=A0=A0value = of $LC_COLLATE: nil
=A0=A0value of $LC_CTYPE: = de_DE.UTF-8
=A0=A0value of $LC_MESSAGES: nil
=A0=A0val= ue of $LC_MONETARY: nil
=A0=A0value of $LC_NUMERIC: = nil
=A0=A0value of $LC_TIME: nil
=A0=A0value of = $LANG: de_DE.UTF-8
=A0=A0value of $XMODIFIERS: = nil
=A0=A0locale-coding-system: = utf-8-unix
=A0=A0default-enable-multibyte-characters: = t

Major mode: = Man

Minor modes in = effect:
=A0=A0show-paren-mode: = t
=A0=A0display-time-mode: t
=A0=A0tooltip-mode: = t
=A0=A0tool-bar-mode: t
=A0=A0mouse-wheel-mode: = t
=A0=A0file-name-shadow-mode: = t
=A0=A0global-font-lock-mode: t
=A0=A0font-lock-mode:= t
=A0=A0blink-cursor-mode: = t
=A0=A0global-auto-composition-mode: = t
=A0=A0auto-composition-mode: = t
=A0=A0auto-encryption-mode: = t
=A0=A0auto-compression-mode: = t
=A0=A0column-number-mode: t
=A0=A0line-number-mode: = t
=A0=A0transient-mark-mode: t

=

--
Greetings

=A0 Pete
=A0 =A0 = =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 <\
=A0 =A0 = =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 \__ =A0 =A0 O =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 = =A0 =A0 __O
=A0 =A0 = =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 | O\ =A0 _\\/\-%=A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 = _`\<,
=A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 '()-'-(_)--(_) =A0 =A0 = =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 (_)/(_)

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= --Apple-Mail-1-494949921-- From cyd@stupidchicken.com Wed Feb 11 06:30:20 2009 Received: (at 2285) by emacsbugs.donarmstrong.com; 11 Feb 2009 14:30:21 +0000 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.2.5-bugs.debian.org_2005_01_02 (2008-06-10) on rzlab.ucr.edu X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Bayes: score:0.5 Bayes not run. spammytokens:Tokens not available. hammytokens:Tokens not available. X-Spam-Status: No, score=0.0 required=4.0 tests=none autolearn=ham version=3.2.5-bugs.debian.org_2005_01_02 Received: from cyd.mit.edu (CYD.MIT.EDU [18.115.2.24]) by rzlab.ucr.edu (8.13.8/8.13.8/Debian-3) with ESMTP id n1BEUEok001048 for <2285@emacsbugs.donarmstrong.com>; Wed, 11 Feb 2009 06:30:16 -0800 Received: by cyd.mit.edu (Postfix, from userid 1000) id 4620C57E20C; Wed, 11 Feb 2009 09:31:01 -0500 (EST) From: Chong Yidong To: Peter Dyballa Cc: 2285@debbugs.gnu.org Subject: Re: 23.0.90; indeterminate X11 "standard dirs" Date: Wed, 11 Feb 2009 09:31:01 -0500 Message-ID: <8763jh2ggq.fsf@cyd.mit.edu> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii > So it's not sufficient when configure summarises in the end: > > Where do we find X Windows header files? Standard dirs > Where do we find X Windows libraries? Standard dirs > > Which are the so-called "standard dirs?" If you explicitly specify where to find ./configure --x-libraries=FOO --x-includes=BAR then the build process will use that, and the configuration report will report what you have chosen. I don't know, off the top of my head, whether it's possible to extract the information that you want. It might be the case that Emacs just lets compiler try to find the header files and libraries by itself. I'd prefer not to muck around with the configuration too much during pretest, but we can look into it after the release. From cyd@stupidchicken.com Wed Feb 11 06:30:47 2009 Received: (at control) by emacsbugs.donarmstrong.com; 11 Feb 2009 14:30:47 +0000 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.2.5-bugs.debian.org_2005_01_02 (2008-06-10) on rzlab.ucr.edu X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Bayes: score:0.5 Bayes not run. spammytokens:Tokens not available. hammytokens:Tokens not available. X-Spam-Status: No, score=-2.0 required=4.0 tests=VALID_BTS_CONTROL autolearn=ham version=3.2.5-bugs.debian.org_2005_01_02 Received: from cyd.mit.edu (CYD.MIT.EDU [18.115.2.24]) by rzlab.ucr.edu (8.13.8/8.13.8/Debian-3) with ESMTP id n1BEUc7f001344 for ; Wed, 11 Feb 2009 06:30:39 -0800 Received: by cyd.mit.edu (Postfix, from userid 1000) id 941ED57E20C; Wed, 11 Feb 2009 09:31:24 -0500 (EST) From: Chong Yidong To: control@debbugs.gnu.org Subject: severity 2285 wishlist Date: Wed, 11 Feb 2009 09:31:24 -0500 Message-ID: <873ael2gg3.fsf@cyd.mit.edu> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii severity 2285 wishlist thanks From cyd@stupidchicken.com Wed Feb 11 06:32:57 2009 Received: (at 2285-done) by emacsbugs.donarmstrong.com; 11 Feb 2009 14:32:57 +0000 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.2.5-bugs.debian.org_2005_01_02 (2008-06-10) on rzlab.ucr.edu X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Bayes: score:0.5 Bayes not run. spammytokens:Tokens not available. hammytokens:Tokens not available. X-Spam-Status: No, score=0.0 required=4.0 tests=none autolearn=ham version=3.2.5-bugs.debian.org_2005_01_02 Received: from cyd.mit.edu (CYD.MIT.EDU [18.115.2.24]) by rzlab.ucr.edu (8.13.8/8.13.8/Debian-3) with ESMTP id n1BEWqd3001482 for <2285-done@emacsbugs.donarmstrong.com>; Wed, 11 Feb 2009 06:32:53 -0800 Received: by cyd.mit.edu (Postfix, from userid 1000) id 7606557E20C; Wed, 11 Feb 2009 09:33:38 -0500 (EST) From: Chong Yidong To: Peter Dyballa Cc: 2285-done@debbugs.gnu.org Subject: Re: 23.0.90; during configuration unwanted preference of /usr/X11 Date: Wed, 11 Feb 2009 09:33:38 -0500 Message-ID: <87zlgt11rx.fsf@cyd.mit.edu> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii > When I configure GNU Emacs the script has an unwanted preference of / > usr/X11 as default of the X11 installation. On my system, Mac OS X > 10.4.11 (Tiger), this is a non-standard (non-Apple) installation of a > self-compiled X11R7.4 In that case, I suggest using the --x-libraries and --x-includes options to configure. From Peter_Dyballa@Freenet.DE Wed Feb 11 08:31:27 2009 Received: (at 2285) by emacsbugs.donarmstrong.com; 11 Feb 2009 16:31:28 +0000 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.2.5-bugs.debian.org_2005_01_02 (2008-06-10) on rzlab.ucr.edu X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Bayes: score:0.5 Bayes not run. spammytokens:Tokens not available. hammytokens:Tokens not available. X-Spam-Status: No, score=0.0 required=4.0 tests=none autolearn=ham version=3.2.5-bugs.debian.org_2005_01_02 Received: from mout2.freenet.de (mout2.freenet.de [195.4.92.92]) by rzlab.ucr.edu (8.13.8/8.13.8/Debian-3) with ESMTP id n1BGVJnl006949 for <2285@emacsbugs.donarmstrong.com>; Wed, 11 Feb 2009 08:31:21 -0800 Received: from [195.4.92.22] (helo=12.mx.freenet.de) by mout2.freenet.de with esmtpa (ID peter_dyballa@freenet.de) (port 25) (Exim 4.69 #76) id 1LXHza-0003hn-QP; Wed, 11 Feb 2009 17:31:18 +0100 Received: from p5b23bf6d.dip.t-dialin.net ([91.35.191.109]:64555 helo=[192.168.1.2]) by 12.mx.freenet.de with esmtpsa (ID peter_dyballa@freenet.de) (TLSv1:AES128-SHA:128) (port 25) (Exim 4.69 #76) id 1LXHza-0001hH-FU; Wed, 11 Feb 2009 17:31:18 +0100 In-Reply-To: <8763jh2ggq.fsf@cyd.mit.edu> References: <8763jh2ggq.fsf@cyd.mit.edu> Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v753.1) Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII; delsp=yes; format=flowed Message-Id: Cc: 2285@debbugs.gnu.org Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit From: Peter Dyballa Subject: Re: 23.0.90; indeterminate X11 "standard dirs" Date: Wed, 11 Feb 2009 17:31:08 +0100 To: Chong Yidong X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.753.1) Am 11.02.2009 um 15:31 schrieb Chong Yidong: > I don't know, off the top of my head, > whether it's possible to extract the information that you want. It once (beginning of October 2008) was the standard to report these details: Where do we find X Windows header files? /usr/X11R6/ include Where do we find X Windows libraries? /usr/X11R6/ lib When I pass --x-includes=/opt/local/include --x-libraries=/opt/local/ lib to configure it at least reports: Where do we find X Windows header files? /opt/local/ include Where do we find X Windows libraries? /opt/local/ lib Thinking a bit further on my problem, it seems to be adequate to state --x-includes=FOO --x-libraries=BAR on a system with more than one X11 installation instead of hoping that my compiler flags will work it out... But anyway, I would like to see a positive feedback/ report! -- Greetings Pete They that can give up essential liberty to obtain a little temporary safety deserve neither liberty nor safety. -Benjamin Franklin, Historical Review of Pennsylvania. From cyd@stupidchicken.com Thu Feb 12 06:05:30 2009 Received: (at 2285) by emacsbugs.donarmstrong.com; 12 Feb 2009 14:05:30 +0000 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.2.5-bugs.debian.org_2005_01_02 (2008-06-10) on rzlab.ucr.edu X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Bayes: score:0.5 Bayes not run. spammytokens:Tokens not available. hammytokens:Tokens not available. X-Spam-Status: No, score=0.0 required=4.0 tests=none autolearn=ham version=3.2.5-bugs.debian.org_2005_01_02 Received: from cyd.mit.edu (CYD.MIT.EDU [18.115.2.24]) by rzlab.ucr.edu (8.13.8/8.13.8/Debian-3) with ESMTP id n1CE5Rmt010336 for <2285@emacsbugs.donarmstrong.com>; Thu, 12 Feb 2009 06:05:28 -0800 Received: by cyd.mit.edu (Postfix, from userid 1000) id 4247A57E205; Thu, 12 Feb 2009 09:06:15 -0500 (EST) From: Chong Yidong To: Peter Dyballa Cc: 2285@debbugs.gnu.org Subject: Re: 23.0.90; indeterminate X11 "standard dirs" References: <8763jh2ggq.fsf@cyd.mit.edu> Date: Thu, 12 Feb 2009 09:06:15 -0500 In-Reply-To: (Peter Dyballa's message of "Wed, 11 Feb 2009 17:31:08 +0100") Message-ID: <87skmjkaw8.fsf@cyd.mit.edu> User-Agent: Gnus/5.13 (Gnus v5.13) Emacs/23.0.60 (gnu/linux) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Peter Dyballa writes: > It once (beginning of October 2008) was the standard to report these > details: > > Where do we find X Windows header files? /usr/X11R6/include > Where do we find X Windows libraries? /usr/X11R6/lib That's strange. According to vc-annotate, this part of the configure code has not changed in about 10 years. > When I pass --x-includes=/opt/local/include --x-libraries=/opt/local/ > lib to configure it at least reports: > > Where do we find X Windows header files? /opt/local/include > Where do we find X Windows libraries? /opt/local/lib Yes, I know. In this case, the arguments you pass are directly stored and reported. From unknown Mon Jun 23 13:09:19 2025 Received: (at fakecontrol) by fakecontrolmessage; To: internal_control@debbugs.gnu.org From: $requester Subject: Internal Control Message-Id: bug archived. Date: Thu, 12 Mar 2009 14:24:10 +0000 User-Agent: Fakemail v42.6.9 # A New Hope # A log time ago, in a galaxy far, far away # something happened. # # Magically this resulted in the following # action being taken, but this fake control # message doesn't tell you why it happened # # The action: # bug archived. thanks # This fakemail brought to you by your local debbugs # administrator