From unknown Sat Jun 21 02:58:32 2025 Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: MIME-tools 5.509 (Entity 5.509) Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 From: bug#22715 <22715@debbugs.gnu.org> To: bug#22715 <22715@debbugs.gnu.org> Subject: Status: 25.0.91; Point randomly jumps during key entry Reply-To: bug#22715 <22715@debbugs.gnu.org> Date: Sat, 21 Jun 2025 09:58:32 +0000 retitle 22715 25.0.91; Point randomly jumps during key entry reassign 22715 emacs submitter 22715 Steve Revilak severity 22715 normal thanks From debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Tue Feb 16 20:40:05 2016 Received: (at submit) by debbugs.gnu.org; 17 Feb 2016 01:40:05 +0000 Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:38678 helo=debbugs.gnu.org) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84) (envelope-from ) id 1aVr65-0008E5-G7 for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Tue, 16 Feb 2016 20:40:05 -0500 Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([208.118.235.92]:48434) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84) (envelope-from ) id 1aVr63-0008DV-Q9 for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Tue, 16 Feb 2016 20:40:04 -0500 Received: from Debian-exim by eggs.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1aVr5x-0006yC-DX for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Tue, 16 Feb 2016 20:39:58 -0500 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.3.2 (2011-06-06) on eggs.gnu.org X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=0.8 required=5.0 tests=BAYES_50,UNPARSEABLE_RELAY autolearn=disabled version=3.3.2 Received: from lists.gnu.org ([2001:4830:134:3::11]:41805) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1aVr5x-0006y8-9v for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Tue, 16 Feb 2016 20:39:57 -0500 Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([2001:4830:134:3::10]:39400) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1aVr5v-0000yo-UB for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Tue, 16 Feb 2016 20:39:57 -0500 Received: from Debian-exim by eggs.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1aVr5s-0006xU-Jy for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Tue, 16 Feb 2016 20:39:55 -0500 Received: from gil.mayfirst.org ([216.66.23.48]:53779) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1aVr5s-0006xO-Fv for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Tue, 16 Feb 2016 20:39:52 -0500 Received: from gil.mayfirst.org (unknown [127.0.0.1]) by gil.mayfirst.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 954145E88 for ; Tue, 16 Feb 2016 20:39:49 -0500 (EST) Received: from [127.0.0.1] (localhost [127.0.0.1]) (Authenticated sender: srevilak@gil.mayfirst.org) with ESMTPSA id 6101F5E78 Date: Tue, 16 Feb 2016 20:39:49 -0500 From: Steve Revilak To: bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org Subject: 25.0.91; Point randomly jumps during key entry Message-ID: <20160217013949.GE2649@srevilak.net> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/signed; micalg=pgp-sha256; protocol="application/pgp-signature"; boundary="UnaWdueM1EBWVRzC" Content-Disposition: inline User-Agent: Mutt/1.5.21 (2010-09-15) X-Virus-Scanned: ClamAV using ClamSMTP X-detected-operating-system: by eggs.gnu.org: GNU/Linux 2.2.x-3.x [generic] X-detected-operating-system: by eggs.gnu.org: GNU/Linux 2.6.x X-Received-From: 2001:4830:134:3::11 X-Spam-Score: -4.0 (----) X-Debbugs-Envelope-To: submit X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18 Precedence: list List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Sender: "Debbugs-submit" X-Spam-Score: -4.0 (----) --UnaWdueM1EBWVRzC Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; format=flowed Content-Disposition: inline First, please accept my apologies for the poor bug report. I'm calling it a poor bug report because I've been unable to find a simple recipe that easily reproduces the behavior I'm seeing. The behavior itself is easy to describe: while providing keyboard input, sometimes point jumps to a (seemingly) random place in the buffer. Some examples - while holding the UP arrow to slowly scroll upwards in the current buffer, point suddenly `jumps' up, over several screenfuls of text - while typing (ordinary alphanumeric text), point jumps to a line near the top of the file. I've noticed this most often when using emacs to write java code. I'll be typing away in the body of a method, and point will jump to a position in the file header comment, several hundred lines earlier. This doesn't happen very often. Perhaps 3--4 times during a work day. I have not found a way to make it happen on demand. I've experienced this behavior in 25.0.90 and 25.0.91, but not in earlier versions. I typically see this behavior in java-mode and org-mode. That said, the vast majority of my emacs usage involves java-mode and org-mode. I've seen this behavior on two different x86_64 GNU/Linux systems. One system runs Redhat 6.4, and the other runs OpenSUSE 13.2. Both systems have `standard' USB keyboards, and optical mice. If I'm able to find a nice set of steps to reproduce, I'll add them to this bug report. If there are suggestions for gathering/providing more information, please let me know, and I'll gladly try them. In GNU Emacs 25.0.91.1 (x86_64-unknown-linux-gnu, GTK+ Version 3.14.15) of 2016-02-16 built on sunny Windowing system distributor 'The X.Org Foundation', version 11.0.11601000 System Description: openSUSE 13.2 (Harlequin) (x86_64) Configured using: 'configure --prefix=/usr/local/emacs-25.0.91' Configured features: XPM JPEG TIFF GIF PNG RSVG IMAGEMAGICK SOUND DBUS GCONF GSETTINGS NOTIFY ACL GNUTLS LIBXML2 FREETYPE XFT ZLIB TOOLKIT_SCROLL_BARS GTK3 X11 Important settings: value of $LC_COLLATE: C value of $LANG: en_US.UTF-8 value of $XMODIFIERS: @im=ibus locale-coding-system: utf-8-unix Major mode: Lisp Interaction Minor modes in effect: tooltip-mode: t global-eldoc-mode: t electric-indent-mode: t mouse-wheel-mode: t tool-bar-mode: t menu-bar-mode: t file-name-shadow-mode: t global-font-lock-mode: t font-lock-mode: t blink-cursor-mode: t auto-composition-mode: t auto-encryption-mode: t auto-compression-mode: t line-number-mode: t transient-mark-mode: t Recent messages: For information about GNU Emacs and the GNU system, type C-h C-a. 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From debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Wed Feb 17 05:25:26 2016 Received: (at submit) by debbugs.gnu.org; 17 Feb 2016 10:25:26 +0000 Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:38842 helo=debbugs.gnu.org) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84) (envelope-from ) id 1aVzIT-0006u6-WE for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Wed, 17 Feb 2016 05:25:26 -0500 Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([208.118.235.92]:38877) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84) (envelope-from ) id 1aVzIS-0006tu-D7 for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Wed, 17 Feb 2016 05:25:25 -0500 Received: from Debian-exim by eggs.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1aVzIH-0008Mx-Nq for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Wed, 17 Feb 2016 05:25:19 -0500 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.3.2 (2011-06-06) on eggs.gnu.org X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-1.9 required=5.0 tests=BAYES_00,FREEMAIL_FROM autolearn=disabled version=3.3.2 Received: from lists.gnu.org ([2001:4830:134:3::11]:52305) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1aVzIH-0008Mt-L5 for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Wed, 17 Feb 2016 05:25:13 -0500 Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([2001:4830:134:3::10]:58081) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1aVzIH-0001cg-00 for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Wed, 17 Feb 2016 05:25:13 -0500 Received: from Debian-exim by eggs.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1aVzIB-0008Lu-WA for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Wed, 17 Feb 2016 05:25:12 -0500 Received: from plane.gmane.org ([80.91.229.3]:41726) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1aVzIB-0008KI-OK for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Wed, 17 Feb 2016 05:25:07 -0500 Received: from list by plane.gmane.org with local (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1aVzI8-0003x3-5a for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Wed, 17 Feb 2016 11:25:04 +0100 Received: from h-202-248.a328.priv.bahnhof.se ([5.150.202.248]) by main.gmane.org with esmtp (Gmexim 0.1 (Debian)) id 1AlnuQ-0007hv-00 for ; Wed, 17 Feb 2016 11:25:04 +0100 Received: from joakim.jalap by h-202-248.a328.priv.bahnhof.se with local (Gmexim 0.1 (Debian)) id 1AlnuQ-0007hv-00 for ; Wed, 17 Feb 2016 11:25:04 +0100 X-Injected-Via-Gmane: http://gmane.org/ To: bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org From: Joakim Jalap Subject: Re: bug#22715: 25.0.91; Point randomly jumps during key entry Date: Wed, 17 Feb 2016 10:26:45 +0100 Lines: 5 Message-ID: <8760xnelgq.fsf@fastmail.com> References: <20160217013949.GE2649@srevilak.net> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain X-Complaints-To: usenet@ger.gmane.org X-Gmane-NNTP-Posting-Host: h-202-248.a328.priv.bahnhof.se User-Agent: Gnus/5.13 (Gnus v5.13) Emacs/25.0.91 (gnu/linux) Cancel-Lock: sha1:6fBCizPMmgB+a4S9WbYgooLNDJ8= X-detected-operating-system: by eggs.gnu.org: Genre and OS details not recognized. X-detected-operating-system: by eggs.gnu.org: GNU/Linux 2.6.x X-Received-From: 2001:4830:134:3::11 X-Spam-Score: -4.1 (----) X-Debbugs-Envelope-To: submit X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18 Precedence: list List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Sender: "Debbugs-submit" X-Spam-Score: -4.1 (----) FWIW, this happens to me too. Usually in c-mode, since that's what I work with. I *think* I have seen a tendency for point to jump to beginning-of-defun quite a lot of the time. Joakim From debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Wed Feb 17 11:52:22 2016 Received: (at 22715) by debbugs.gnu.org; 17 Feb 2016 16:52:22 +0000 Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:59792 helo=debbugs.gnu.org) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84) (envelope-from ) id 1aW5Kw-0000W7-8y for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Wed, 17 Feb 2016 11:52:22 -0500 Received: from out1-smtp.messagingengine.com ([66.111.4.25]:38630) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84) (envelope-from ) id 1aW5Kv-0000W0-9a for 22715@debbugs.gnu.org; Wed, 17 Feb 2016 11:52:21 -0500 Received: from compute5.internal (compute5.nyi.internal [10.202.2.45]) by mailout.nyi.internal (Postfix) with ESMTP id 13B0320AA2 for <22715@debbugs.gnu.org>; Wed, 17 Feb 2016 11:52:21 -0500 (EST) Received: from frontend2 ([10.202.2.161]) by compute5.internal (MEProxy); Wed, 17 Feb 2016 11:52:21 -0500 DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha1; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=fastmail.com; h=cc :content-type:date:from:in-reply-to:message-id:mime-version :references:subject:to:x-sasl-enc:x-sasl-enc; s=mesmtp; bh=6MJ6M JPiZ2xYJtA6IKASz+XzkuM=; b=WMgqShmv+2+va6ob1WzYpmo0bw+AfsP0lz1jR VO9zF0x4BYEx3KDibxWeSz6S+oglXL4ZZEfxTmUHWpP8FlL3dP7nArdYM/OHZSBu JIhxxS4cXd9dNR8Z2+xNK0PqsTZEV93m71z/g+dGF9MBjIPzufM3WObryFOv+XPs m9ciyk= DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha1; c=relaxed/relaxed; d= messagingengine.com; h=cc:content-type:date:from:in-reply-to :message-id:mime-version:references:subject:to:x-sasl-enc :x-sasl-enc; s=smtpout; bh=6MJ6MJPiZ2xYJtA6IKASz+XzkuM=; b=mkaGD q6m9qW+rXv/6JYIraqw2TuCgU4PL4M44mnpn8EVGdW6cYVZbbFrpSaMtettP9d5N so9FEhMyHN4Ji/lvpqm8avDmvkE8h7TI03Q4xQ6EFOCae6racbkHjUUgL7uCWFIn pOcOCC06oGBP50yfAQf/hYdODdFG0AQll3bBMY= X-Sasl-enc: LNJRewILJzAGyQiDKXxiWvHTqkP5lhT51PqQnl1O/S/K 1455727940 Received: from msundjoakimj (tritech.se [46.59.120.190]) by mail.messagingengine.com (Postfix) with ESMTPA id 386886801F3; Wed, 17 Feb 2016 11:52:20 -0500 (EST) From: Joakim Jalap To: Eli Zaretskii Subject: Re: bug#22715: 25.0.91; Point randomly jumps during key entry References: <20160217013949.GE2649@srevilak.net> <8760xnelgq.fsf@fastmail.com> <83povvuw1t.fsf@gnu.org> Date: Wed, 17 Feb 2016 17:52:19 +0100 In-Reply-To: <83povvuw1t.fsf@gnu.org> (Eli Zaretskii's message of "Wed, 17 Feb 2016 18:43:42 +0200") Message-ID: <87wpq3cm9o.fsf@fastmail.com> User-Agent: Gnus/5.13 (Gnus v5.13) Emacs/25.0.91 (gnu/linux) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain X-Spam-Score: -0.7 (/) X-Debbugs-Envelope-To: 22715 Cc: 22715@debbugs.gnu.org X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18 Precedence: list List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Sender: "Debbugs-submit" X-Spam-Score: -0.7 (/) Eli Zaretskii writes: >> From: Joakim Jalap >> Date: Wed, 17 Feb 2016 10:26:45 +0100 >> >> FWIW, this happens to me too. Usually in c-mode, since that's what I >> work with. I *think* I have seen a tendency for point to jump to >> beginning-of-defun quite a lot of the time. > > Vanilla C Mode, or do you have some customizations there? I have no customizations to c-mode, but I do use a c-style I've defined. And I have a lot of minor modes active, like ggtags, cscope, and so on. But I have those enabled in emacs 24 as well, and I've never seen this behaviour there. From debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Wed Feb 17 11:56:42 2016 Received: (at 22715) by debbugs.gnu.org; 17 Feb 2016 16:56:42 +0000 Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:59801 helo=debbugs.gnu.org) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84) (envelope-from ) id 1aW5P8-0000d3-6C for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Wed, 17 Feb 2016 11:56:42 -0500 Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([208.118.235.92]:40573) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84) (envelope-from ) id 1aW5P6-0000cM-Mn for 22715@debbugs.gnu.org; Wed, 17 Feb 2016 11:56:40 -0500 Received: from Debian-exim by eggs.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1aW5CM-0002ce-3i for 22715@debbugs.gnu.org; Wed, 17 Feb 2016 11:43:33 -0500 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.3.2 (2011-06-06) on eggs.gnu.org X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-0.5 required=5.0 tests=BAYES_05,RP_MATCHES_RCVD autolearn=disabled version=3.3.2 Received: from fencepost.gnu.org ([2001:4830:134:3::e]:55996) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1aW5CM-0002ca-19; Wed, 17 Feb 2016 11:43:30 -0500 Received: from 84.94.185.246.cable.012.net.il ([84.94.185.246]:4690 helo=home-c4e4a596f7) by fencepost.gnu.org with esmtpsa (TLS1.2:RSA_AES_128_CBC_SHA1:128) (Exim 4.82) (envelope-from ) id 1aW5CL-0001or-Bh; Wed, 17 Feb 2016 11:43:29 -0500 Date: Wed, 17 Feb 2016 18:43:42 +0200 Message-Id: <83povvuw1t.fsf@gnu.org> From: Eli Zaretskii To: Joakim Jalap In-reply-to: <8760xnelgq.fsf@fastmail.com> (message from Joakim Jalap on Wed, 17 Feb 2016 10:26:45 +0100) Subject: Re: bug#22715: 25.0.91; Point randomly jumps during key entry References: <20160217013949.GE2649@srevilak.net> <8760xnelgq.fsf@fastmail.com> X-detected-operating-system: by eggs.gnu.org: GNU/Linux 2.2.x-3.x [generic] X-Received-From: 2001:4830:134:3::e X-Spam-Score: -5.0 (-----) X-Debbugs-Envelope-To: 22715 Cc: 22715@debbugs.gnu.org X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18 Precedence: list List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Reply-To: Eli Zaretskii Errors-To: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Sender: "Debbugs-submit" X-Spam-Score: -5.0 (-----) > From: Joakim Jalap > Date: Wed, 17 Feb 2016 10:26:45 +0100 > > FWIW, this happens to me too. Usually in c-mode, since that's what I > work with. I *think* I have seen a tendency for point to jump to > beginning-of-defun quite a lot of the time. Vanilla C Mode, or do you have some customizations there? From debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Wed Feb 17 11:56:42 2016 Received: (at 22715) by debbugs.gnu.org; 17 Feb 2016 16:56:42 +0000 Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:59803 helo=debbugs.gnu.org) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84) (envelope-from ) id 1aW5P8-0000d5-CY for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Wed, 17 Feb 2016 11:56:42 -0500 Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([208.118.235.92]:40573) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84) (envelope-from ) id 1aW5P7-0000cM-0t for 22715@debbugs.gnu.org; Wed, 17 Feb 2016 11:56:41 -0500 Received: from Debian-exim by eggs.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1aW5Bk-0002WM-Bb for 22715@debbugs.gnu.org; Wed, 17 Feb 2016 11:42:55 -0500 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.3.2 (2011-06-06) on eggs.gnu.org X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=0.8 required=5.0 tests=BAYES_50,RP_MATCHES_RCVD autolearn=disabled version=3.3.2 Received: from fencepost.gnu.org ([2001:4830:134:3::e]:55987) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1aW5Bk-0002WI-8A; Wed, 17 Feb 2016 11:42:52 -0500 Received: from 84.94.185.246.cable.012.net.il ([84.94.185.246]:4689 helo=home-c4e4a596f7) by fencepost.gnu.org with esmtpsa (TLS1.2:RSA_AES_128_CBC_SHA1:128) (Exim 4.82) (envelope-from ) id 1aW5Bj-0001j3-Jx; Wed, 17 Feb 2016 11:42:52 -0500 Date: Wed, 17 Feb 2016 18:43:05 +0200 Message-Id: <83r3gbuw2u.fsf@gnu.org> From: Eli Zaretskii To: Steve Revilak In-reply-to: <20160217013949.GE2649@srevilak.net> (message from Steve Revilak on Tue, 16 Feb 2016 20:39:49 -0500) Subject: Re: bug#22715: 25.0.91; Point randomly jumps during key entry References: <20160217013949.GE2649@srevilak.net> X-detected-operating-system: by eggs.gnu.org: GNU/Linux 2.2.x-3.x [generic] X-Received-From: 2001:4830:134:3::e X-Spam-Score: -5.0 (-----) X-Debbugs-Envelope-To: 22715 Cc: 22715@debbugs.gnu.org X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18 Precedence: list List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Reply-To: Eli Zaretskii Errors-To: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Sender: "Debbugs-submit" X-Spam-Score: -5.0 (-----) > Date: Tue, 16 Feb 2016 20:39:49 -0500 > From: Steve Revilak > > First, please accept my apologies for the poor bug report. I'm calling > it a poor bug report because I've been unable to find a simple recipe > that easily reproduces the behavior I'm seeing. > > The behavior itself is easy to describe: while providing keyboard input, > sometimes point jumps to a (seemingly) random place in the buffer. > > Some examples > > - while holding the UP arrow to slowly scroll upwards in the current > buffer, point suddenly `jumps' up, over several screenfuls of text > > - while typing (ordinary alphanumeric text), point jumps to a line > near the top of the file. I've noticed this most often when using > emacs to write java code. I'll be typing away in the body of a > method, and point will jump to a position in the file header > comment, several hundred lines earlier. > > This doesn't happen very often. Perhaps 3--4 times during a work day. > I have not found a way to make it happen on demand. > > I've experienced this behavior in 25.0.90 and 25.0.91, but not in > earlier versions. > > I typically see this behavior in java-mode and org-mode. That said, the > vast majority of my emacs usage involves java-mode and org-mode. > > I've seen this behavior on two different x86_64 GNU/Linux systems. > One system runs Redhat 6.4, and the other runs OpenSUSE 13.2. Both > systems have `standard' USB keyboards, and optical mice. > > If I'm able to find a nice set of steps to reproduce, I'll add them to > this bug report. > > If there are suggestions for gathering/providing more information, > please let me know, and I'll gladly try them. Thanks. It's indeed hard to do anything with this without more details. Some questions: . Are the problems in java-mode and org-mode similar? It doesn't sound like that, but I'm not sure. . Do you have similar Emacs customizations on both systems where you see this? . Can you make this happen in "emacs -Q"? Thanks. From debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Wed Feb 17 12:22:01 2016 Received: (at 22715) by debbugs.gnu.org; 17 Feb 2016 17:22:01 +0000 Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:59833 helo=debbugs.gnu.org) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84) (envelope-from ) id 1aW5nd-0001Hb-4p for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Wed, 17 Feb 2016 12:22:01 -0500 Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([208.118.235.92]:48436) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84) (envelope-from ) id 1aW5nc-0001HP-BM for 22715@debbugs.gnu.org; Wed, 17 Feb 2016 12:22:00 -0500 Received: from Debian-exim by eggs.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1aW5nT-0004Jg-BF for 22715@debbugs.gnu.org; Wed, 17 Feb 2016 12:21:55 -0500 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.3.2 (2011-06-06) on eggs.gnu.org X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=0.8 required=5.0 tests=BAYES_50,RP_MATCHES_RCVD autolearn=disabled version=3.3.2 Received: from fencepost.gnu.org ([2001:4830:134:3::e]:56885) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1aW5nT-0004Jc-8N; Wed, 17 Feb 2016 12:21:51 -0500 Received: from 84.94.185.246.cable.012.net.il ([84.94.185.246]:4725 helo=home-c4e4a596f7) by fencepost.gnu.org with esmtpsa (TLS1.2:RSA_AES_128_CBC_SHA1:128) (Exim 4.82) (envelope-from ) id 1aW5nS-0006gI-JY; Wed, 17 Feb 2016 12:21:51 -0500 Date: Wed, 17 Feb 2016 19:22:03 +0200 Message-Id: <83oabfuu9w.fsf@gnu.org> From: Eli Zaretskii To: Joakim Jalap In-reply-to: <87wpq3cm9o.fsf@fastmail.com> (message from Joakim Jalap on Wed, 17 Feb 2016 17:52:19 +0100) Subject: Re: bug#22715: 25.0.91; Point randomly jumps during key entry References: <20160217013949.GE2649@srevilak.net> <8760xnelgq.fsf@fastmail.com> <83povvuw1t.fsf@gnu.org> <87wpq3cm9o.fsf@fastmail.com> X-detected-operating-system: by eggs.gnu.org: GNU/Linux 2.2.x-3.x [generic] X-Received-From: 2001:4830:134:3::e X-Spam-Score: -5.0 (-----) X-Debbugs-Envelope-To: 22715 Cc: 22715@debbugs.gnu.org X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18 Precedence: list List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Reply-To: Eli Zaretskii Errors-To: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Sender: "Debbugs-submit" X-Spam-Score: -5.0 (-----) > From: Joakim Jalap > Cc: 22715@debbugs.gnu.org > Date: Wed, 17 Feb 2016 17:52:19 +0100 > > > Vanilla C Mode, or do you have some customizations there? > > I have no customizations to c-mode, but I do use a c-style I've defined. > > And I have a lot of minor modes active, like ggtags, cscope, and so on. > But I have those enabled in emacs 24 as well, and I've never seen this > behaviour there. I asked this to have an idea of what factors could be at work here. One of the customizations might expose some bug, and it would be good to know which one is that, because it will make looking for the bug easier. So if you have a way of finding out which optional feature causes the buggy behavior, it will help. Thanks. From debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Wed Feb 17 16:13:13 2016 Received: (at 22715) by debbugs.gnu.org; 17 Feb 2016 21:13:13 +0000 Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:59998 helo=debbugs.gnu.org) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84) (envelope-from ) id 1aW9PN-0003Da-IE for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Wed, 17 Feb 2016 16:13:13 -0500 Received: from out3-smtp.messagingengine.com ([66.111.4.27]:51199) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84) (envelope-from ) id 1aW9PL-0003DS-Mv for 22715@debbugs.gnu.org; Wed, 17 Feb 2016 16:13:12 -0500 Received: from compute5.internal (compute5.nyi.internal [10.202.2.45]) by mailout.nyi.internal (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6EBC12034E for <22715@debbugs.gnu.org>; Wed, 17 Feb 2016 16:13:11 -0500 (EST) Received: from frontend2 ([10.202.2.161]) by compute5.internal (MEProxy); Wed, 17 Feb 2016 16:13:11 -0500 DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha1; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=fastmail.com; h=cc :content-type:date:from:in-reply-to:message-id:mime-version :references:subject:to:x-sasl-enc:x-sasl-enc; s=mesmtp; bh=nckhq fA+7/YnbNn6drHfY64RIhI=; b=dsK2em74MIHxzvv5oy+DUiB0jm61lIBp3o/U9 YAbZmv44Ubw3WWSb4lCgwJDzllvW3DGEpD8nbZEA9yKBiiTTGWfXMITLx260FzjP SHE1epQX7MxqTZifIcTBoN1IL9Pi2chpVdGR4CJuROx1Zwu3p7N2n2YQeXfHDnN6 k2NEzo= DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha1; c=relaxed/relaxed; d= messagingengine.com; h=cc:content-type:date:from:in-reply-to :message-id:mime-version:references:subject:to:x-sasl-enc :x-sasl-enc; s=smtpout; bh=nckhqfA+7/YnbNn6drHfY64RIhI=; b=M9Dah +6Zfp6+kIu2VG/plF5OwFjYzyriGCUN32WBWzS0VJCBCazb5bgmeIebZgkKpfwlW oEiQke6CkMXmzsIyV+cCoVSu1MtHXmx/cpm3W1x2xBIFEudvP4FLFYLMDpAWlTYa hFksjUEsSloQSu+H1e5UYJ8ACPh80ty0Ab9rX4= X-Sasl-enc: OOs8lDzzGs23Ao0sLarcwKYxtSSaM8sfXK4FXo4PdQQC 1455743591 Received: from joakim-desk.jockej.lan (unknown [5.150.202.248]) by mail.messagingengine.com (Postfix) with ESMTPA id BD2E66801CC; Wed, 17 Feb 2016 16:13:10 -0500 (EST) From: Joakim Jalap To: Eli Zaretskii Subject: Re: bug#22715: 25.0.91; Point randomly jumps during key entry References: <20160217013949.GE2649@srevilak.net> <8760xnelgq.fsf@fastmail.com> <83povvuw1t.fsf@gnu.org> <87wpq3cm9o.fsf@fastmail.com> <83oabfuu9w.fsf@gnu.org> Date: Wed, 17 Feb 2016 22:13:09 +0100 In-Reply-To: <83oabfuu9w.fsf@gnu.org> (Eli Zaretskii's message of "Wed, 17 Feb 2016 19:22:03 +0200") Message-ID: <87povv9h22.fsf@joakim-desk.jockej.lan> User-Agent: Gnus/5.13 (Gnus v5.13) Emacs/25.0.90 (gnu/linux) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain X-Spam-Score: -0.7 (/) X-Debbugs-Envelope-To: 22715 Cc: 22715@debbugs.gnu.org X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18 Precedence: list List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Sender: "Debbugs-submit" X-Spam-Score: -0.7 (/) Eli Zaretskii writes: > I asked this to have an idea of what factors could be at work here. > One of the customizations might expose some bug, and it would be good > to know which one is that, because it will make looking for the bug > easier. > > So if you have a way of finding out which optional feature causes the > buggy behavior, it will help. > > Thanks. Sure, I will try to disable as much as possible and see if it disappears, and the enable the stuff one by one if it does. If I recall correctly there was some talk of something like this on the ML a while back (I can't find it right now) which had something to do with a rewrite of the undo system? I've rebuilt Emacs several time since then, with 'make clean' in between, but is it possible I still have some byte compiled files laying around form back then? Is there a way to check? Thanks for looking in to this. Joakim From debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Wed Feb 17 22:37:42 2016 Received: (at 22715) by debbugs.gnu.org; 18 Feb 2016 03:37:42 +0000 Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:60109 helo=debbugs.gnu.org) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84) (envelope-from ) id 1aWFPR-0007Ja-VT for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Wed, 17 Feb 2016 22:37:42 -0500 Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([208.118.235.92]:49229) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84) (envelope-from ) id 1aWFPQ-0007JJ-CM for 22715@debbugs.gnu.org; Wed, 17 Feb 2016 22:37:40 -0500 Received: from Debian-exim by eggs.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1aWFPH-00005m-VT for 22715@debbugs.gnu.org; Wed, 17 Feb 2016 22:37:35 -0500 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.3.2 (2011-06-06) on eggs.gnu.org X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-1.9 required=5.0 tests=BAYES_00,RP_MATCHES_RCVD autolearn=disabled version=3.3.2 Received: from fencepost.gnu.org ([2001:4830:134:3::e]:38999) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1aWFPH-00005i-Rw; Wed, 17 Feb 2016 22:37:31 -0500 Received: from 84.94.185.246.cable.012.net.il ([84.94.185.246]:1282 helo=home-c4e4a596f7) by fencepost.gnu.org with esmtpsa (TLS1.2:RSA_AES_128_CBC_SHA1:128) (Exim 4.82) (envelope-from ) id 1aWFPH-0006SH-1q; Wed, 17 Feb 2016 22:37:31 -0500 Date: Thu, 18 Feb 2016 05:37:46 +0200 Message-Id: <834md6vgc5.fsf@gnu.org> From: Eli Zaretskii To: Joakim Jalap In-reply-to: <87povv9h22.fsf@joakim-desk.jockej.lan> (message from Joakim Jalap on Wed, 17 Feb 2016 22:13:09 +0100) Subject: Re: bug#22715: 25.0.91; Point randomly jumps during key entry References: <20160217013949.GE2649@srevilak.net> <8760xnelgq.fsf@fastmail.com> <83povvuw1t.fsf@gnu.org> <87wpq3cm9o.fsf@fastmail.com> <83oabfuu9w.fsf@gnu.org> <87povv9h22.fsf@joakim-desk.jockej.lan> X-detected-operating-system: by eggs.gnu.org: GNU/Linux 2.2.x-3.x [generic] X-Received-From: 2001:4830:134:3::e X-Spam-Score: -5.0 (-----) X-Debbugs-Envelope-To: 22715 Cc: 22715@debbugs.gnu.org X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18 Precedence: list List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Reply-To: Eli Zaretskii Errors-To: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Sender: "Debbugs-submit" X-Spam-Score: -5.0 (-----) > From: Joakim Jalap > Cc: 22715@debbugs.gnu.org > Date: Wed, 17 Feb 2016 22:13:09 +0100 > > If I recall correctly there was some talk of something like this on the > ML a while back (I can't find it right now) which had something to do > with a rewrite of the undo system? I've rebuilt Emacs several time since > then, with 'make clean' in between, but is it possible I still have some > byte compiled files laying around form back then? Is there a way to > check? I don't think this should matter, but if you want to be sure, you can always delete all the *.elc files and say "make" to rebuild them all. From debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Thu Feb 18 02:44:31 2016 Received: (at 22715) by debbugs.gnu.org; 18 Feb 2016 07:44:31 +0000 Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:60160 helo=debbugs.gnu.org) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84) (envelope-from ) id 1aWJGJ-0004fg-MQ for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Thu, 18 Feb 2016 02:44:31 -0500 Received: from out3-smtp.messagingengine.com ([66.111.4.27]:38499) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84) (envelope-from ) id 1aWJGH-0004fY-He for 22715@debbugs.gnu.org; Thu, 18 Feb 2016 02:44:29 -0500 Received: from compute2.internal (compute2.nyi.internal [10.202.2.42]) by mailout.nyi.internal (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4B6C220E9F for <22715@debbugs.gnu.org>; Thu, 18 Feb 2016 02:44:29 -0500 (EST) Received: from frontend2 ([10.202.2.161]) by compute2.internal (MEProxy); Thu, 18 Feb 2016 02:44:29 -0500 DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha1; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=fastmail.com; h=cc :content-type:date:from:in-reply-to:message-id:mime-version :references:subject:to:x-sasl-enc:x-sasl-enc; s=mesmtp; bh=J7bPx I/zmwSwKupvAHn/Rb4XLo4=; b=UJxUDEQ8cl+o6tLXnykCLdFseknMeh0yPfD3v U9TznGRB+pQRqPmgiZbTZKO/KP/oTCsn/zjqtfS04aQIycQBlWJokU1jnysiWgQa iOIpERDhTp56eW1Nwd7acJNH6O86M1EXGOsCLhcKY/DTcQ3fyMH7a5elRD5FyKKz cbbs2Y= DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha1; c=relaxed/relaxed; d= messagingengine.com; h=cc:content-type:date:from:in-reply-to :message-id:mime-version:references:subject:to:x-sasl-enc :x-sasl-enc; s=smtpout; bh=J7bPxI/zmwSwKupvAHn/Rb4XLo4=; b=eJyv5 bM/fVdBEwQBpTRodFxojoOr0ZnVTgMREBuFLP/HIytUkbroeyzSexg6NDraEaq6y y+0SChXq6/SC0YkytxUWsx72Qxe3/g5WsnPkBQdCx8q/qRv9rF7o7TwIHejR5sjF poXUqbbg6M9qe7TrZ1RX96KzdZyJBhmbMvpciQ= X-Sasl-enc: 6DSKwBdYcsXwlLNT7lzTT4Fw3SLMWW4h03YbzlrravN4 1455781468 Received: from msundjoakimj (tritech.se [46.59.120.190]) by mail.messagingengine.com (Postfix) with ESMTPA id 9F64568011D; Thu, 18 Feb 2016 02:44:28 -0500 (EST) From: Joakim Jalap To: Eli Zaretskii Subject: Re: bug#22715: 25.0.91; Point randomly jumps during key entry References: <20160217013949.GE2649@srevilak.net> <8760xnelgq.fsf@fastmail.com> <83povvuw1t.fsf@gnu.org> <87wpq3cm9o.fsf@fastmail.com> <83oabfuu9w.fsf@gnu.org> <87povv9h22.fsf@joakim-desk.jockej.lan> <834md6vgc5.fsf@gnu.org> Date: Thu, 18 Feb 2016 08:44:27 +0100 In-Reply-To: <834md6vgc5.fsf@gnu.org> (Eli Zaretskii's message of "Thu, 18 Feb 2016 05:37:46 +0200") Message-ID: <87si0qcvj8.fsf@fastmail.com> User-Agent: Gnus/5.13 (Gnus v5.13) Emacs/25.0.91 (gnu/linux) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain X-Spam-Score: -0.7 (/) X-Debbugs-Envelope-To: 22715 Cc: 22715@debbugs.gnu.org X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18 Precedence: list List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Sender: "Debbugs-submit" X-Spam-Score: -0.7 (/) Eli Zaretskii writes: > I don't think this should matter, but if you want to be sure, you can > always delete all the *.elc files and say "make" to rebuild them all. Right, I will try that too. From debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Thu Feb 18 21:22:46 2016 Received: (at 22715) by debbugs.gnu.org; 19 Feb 2016 02:22:46 +0000 Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:33341 helo=debbugs.gnu.org) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84) (envelope-from ) id 1aWaiU-0004Kj-9P for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Thu, 18 Feb 2016 21:22:46 -0500 Received: from paulo.mayfirst.org ([209.234.253.240]:59481) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84) (envelope-from ) id 1aWaiS-0004Ka-O1 for 22715@debbugs.gnu.org; Thu, 18 Feb 2016 21:22:45 -0500 Received: from paulo.mayfirst.org (unknown [127.0.0.1]) by paulo.mayfirst.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1E5263F41 for <22715@debbugs.gnu.org>; Thu, 18 Feb 2016 21:22:42 -0500 (EST) Received: from [127.0.0.1] (localhost [127.0.0.1]) (Authenticated sender: srevilak@paulo.mayfirst.org) with ESMTPSA id F1EDA3F18 Date: Thu, 18 Feb 2016 21:22:40 -0500 From: Steve Revilak To: 22715@debbugs.gnu.org Subject: Re: bug#22715: 25.0.91; Point randomly jumps during key entry Message-ID: <20160219022240.GD2572@srevilak.net> References: <20160217013949.GE2649@srevilak.net> <83r3gbuw2u.fsf@gnu.org> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/signed; micalg=pgp-sha256; protocol="application/pgp-signature"; boundary="Hf61M2y+wYpnELGG" Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <83r3gbuw2u.fsf@gnu.org> User-Agent: Mutt/1.5.21 (2010-09-15) X-Virus-Scanned: ClamAV using ClamSMTP X-Spam-Score: -2.3 (--) X-Debbugs-Envelope-To: 22715 X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18 Precedence: list List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Sender: "Debbugs-submit" X-Spam-Score: -2.3 (--) --Hf61M2y+wYpnELGG Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; format=flowed Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Thanks, Eli and Andreas, for your suggestions. I began by collecting `view-lossage' after several instances of point-jumping. Here is a representative example: > [self-insert-command] SPC [self-insert-command] a [self-insert-command] l [self-insert-command] l [self-insert-command] R [self-insert-command] e [self-insert-command] q [self-insert-command] u [self-insert-command] e [self-insert-command] s [self-insert-command] <<< HERE t [self-insert-command] I [self-insert-command] M-x [execute-extended-command] v [self-insert-command] i [self-insert-command] e [self-insert-command] w [self-insert-command] - [self-insert-command] l [self-insert-command] o [self-insert-command] [minibuffer-complete] [minibuffer-complete-and-exit] I'd been typing on line 494 of a .java file. The characters "stI" ended up on line 464. I don't see any unexpected characters in view-lossage; the characters that appear are those I actually typed. Next, I tried to reproduce this behavior in a "almost emacs -Q" configuration, which was emacs -q --no-site-file --no-site-lisp --no-splash and the smallest ~/.emacs I could get away with. I was not able to reproduce the point-jumping behavior in this configuration. Looking through the emacs-devel archives, I came across https://lists.gnu.org/archive/html/emacs-devel/2015-11/msg01687.html which describes behavior nearly identical to what I've observed. A later post suggests a patch https://lists.gnu.org/archive/html/emacs-devel/2016-01/msg00029.html and another suggests that point-jumping might be related to timers https://lists.gnu.org/archive/html/emacs-devel/2015-11/msg02127.html As an experiment, I went back to my "normal emacs", but with a few lines in ~/.emacs commented out: ;(semantic-mode 1) ;(semantic-stickyfunc-mode t) I also commented out `setq' definitions for semanticdb-default-save-directory and semanticdb-project-roots. With those elements commented out, I couldn't reproduce the point-jumping behavior. (I'll continue to test in this configuration, to be more certain that the non-reproduce isn't just a coincidence.) If it would help, I can restore the aforementioned `semantic' pieces, and see if I can correlate point-jumping with specific timer events. I can also try the save-excursion patch in https://lists.gnu.org/archive/html/emacs-devel/2016-01/msg00029.html. Finally,=20 https://lists.gnu.org/archive/html/emacs-devel/2016-01/msg00031.html suggests this might be related to Bug #15045. Steve --Hf61M2y+wYpnELGG Content-Type: application/pgp-signature; name="signature.asc" Content-Description: Digital signature -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v2 iQIcBAEBCAAGBQJWxnxwAAoJED6yLeTllNzyT7QP/1GFtyHYepYb1tFHJMsBaSs8 6FiOaImG/7ODiFKpoFiwsfsSdRgDCytOTvkYk/Upgezx69FK2bUlIJ7zxBXm66uI slyFiotsSAH0ttOH76YV8FIUcUWlMzHQlB7njgzHNjZj9nC8QMBEvdI47Ud8lVdK s1TWbEl0ScYQdqV8+UdpsVmFFoOAx0hmGt0VcWjSkLecLCbUaav9k4yM07xlyVym 1GojH314hy2fQml7l6yxJ921ItYptq3z9Dc8r3dCWNqYONpWZLJYSP+SRD4fn+2L ejlFnh1WK6FIKk6/IqpEMblsVhcbc4VTCjSzAEdDqcyCaxLhHDmC6qd1VVjiQwfa ddjcqUQi6d25rvk0fw0rDxdUebEIeoB+tAMY1UCLQlUhKssacEW12uNMZ4Dp4Cgn E0CAL/W51gDPxR16N0WbbDUFyRyQHMx+BBFv/Y8F7JXMju/8WhgQs/pIgJYyyDjv f+nS4MjvoveBZ4NIszsYbTVSvUhEhISpwq1h1S4fR6u0kMB5N0kv4yjYgi57ArC+ IE/H39mPr9ZtwIGO4g+aug0iIrCwaUzAR847fif1ufDgjBdLKrLM0l6Z0VvJSeBe 1v7ngz1feURHnuoRiFbLVuI9NEWz98UR27EZxWh7sPUAdZeSpGz/OVsV5gZr9teA 188E8ttAcbyXI6M2k+2A =CsQd -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --Hf61M2y+wYpnELGG-- From debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Fri Feb 19 05:30:24 2016 Received: (at 22715) by debbugs.gnu.org; 19 Feb 2016 10:30:24 +0000 Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:33527 helo=debbugs.gnu.org) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84) (envelope-from ) id 1aWiKN-0002aG-Vp for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Fri, 19 Feb 2016 05:30:24 -0500 Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([208.118.235.92]:48454) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84) (envelope-from ) id 1aWiKM-0002Zx-Dk for 22715@debbugs.gnu.org; Fri, 19 Feb 2016 05:30:22 -0500 Received: from Debian-exim by eggs.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1aWiKD-0006ox-8u for 22715@debbugs.gnu.org; Fri, 19 Feb 2016 05:30:17 -0500 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.3.2 (2011-06-06) on eggs.gnu.org X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=0.8 required=5.0 tests=BAYES_50,RP_MATCHES_RCVD autolearn=disabled version=3.3.2 Received: from fencepost.gnu.org ([2001:4830:134:3::e]:45828) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1aWiKD-0006oo-5X; Fri, 19 Feb 2016 05:30:13 -0500 Received: from 84.94.185.246.cable.012.net.il ([84.94.185.246]:2936 helo=home-c4e4a596f7) by fencepost.gnu.org with esmtpsa (TLS1.2:RSA_AES_128_CBC_SHA1:128) (Exim 4.82) (envelope-from ) id 1aWiKC-0008EJ-J7; Fri, 19 Feb 2016 05:30:12 -0500 Date: Fri, 19 Feb 2016 12:30:07 +0200 Message-Id: <83d1rtro0g.fsf@gnu.org> From: Eli Zaretskii To: Steve Revilak In-reply-to: <20160219022240.GD2572@srevilak.net> (message from Steve Revilak on Thu, 18 Feb 2016 21:22:40 -0500) Subject: Re: bug#22715: 25.0.91; Point randomly jumps during key entry References: <20160217013949.GE2649@srevilak.net> <83r3gbuw2u.fsf@gnu.org> <20160219022240.GD2572@srevilak.net> X-detected-operating-system: by eggs.gnu.org: GNU/Linux 2.2.x-3.x [generic] X-Received-From: 2001:4830:134:3::e X-Spam-Score: -5.0 (-----) X-Debbugs-Envelope-To: 22715 Cc: 22715@debbugs.gnu.org X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18 Precedence: list List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Reply-To: Eli Zaretskii Errors-To: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Sender: "Debbugs-submit" X-Spam-Score: -5.0 (-----) > Date: Thu, 18 Feb 2016 21:22:40 -0500 > From: Steve Revilak > > As an experiment, I went back to my "normal emacs", but with a few > lines in ~/.emacs commented out: > > ;(semantic-mode 1) > ;(semantic-stickyfunc-mode t) > > I also commented out `setq' definitions for > semanticdb-default-save-directory and semanticdb-project-roots. With > those elements commented out, I couldn't reproduce the point-jumping > behavior. (I'll continue to test in this configuration, to be more > certain that the non-reproduce isn't just a coincidence.) > > If it would help, I can restore the aforementioned `semantic' pieces, > and see if I can correlate point-jumping with specific timer events. > I can also try the save-excursion patch in > https://lists.gnu.org/archive/html/emacs-devel/2016-01/msg00029.html. That would help, thanks. Eventually, we need to establish what chain of events causes redisplay when point is in a temporary location. > Finally, > > https://lists.gnu.org/archive/html/emacs-devel/2016-01/msg00031.html > > suggests this might be related to Bug #15045. That bug was resolved. So if this is related, there should be some other place in Semantic that needs to take advantage of the changes made to resolve that bug. Thanks. From debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Fri Feb 19 15:33:14 2016 Received: (at 22715) by debbugs.gnu.org; 19 Feb 2016 20:33:14 +0000 Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:34313 helo=debbugs.gnu.org) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84) (envelope-from ) id 1aWrjm-0001m0-AO for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Fri, 19 Feb 2016 15:33:14 -0500 Received: from randomsample.de ([5.45.97.173]:36369) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84) (envelope-from ) id 1aWrjk-0001lr-8n for 22715@debbugs.gnu.org; Fri, 19 Feb 2016 15:33:12 -0500 DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; q=dns/txt; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=randomsample.de; s=a; h=Content-Type:MIME-Version:Message-ID:Date:References:In-Reply-To:Subject:Cc:To:From; bh=NnGnJnAIxj7la3kmC0ak6cvy/P274nW6WKRONYHNDYw=; b=d/Si/HfxwiPxCM6Z7VHXriZaoslKZA1bv9FJ5Sg5kTp2pCQu0v/ML5SoMPQ9aI1MSuG49S0I6CrIKrd9F5RAc3oVD0we4kovyAfAsqU9HyjTfBDbdml5let8aOXD6OjH; Received: from ip4d1494ed.dynamic.kabel-deutschland.de ([77.20.148.237] helo=isaac) by randomsample.de with esmtpsa (TLS1.2:RSA_AES_128_CBC_SHA1:128) (Exim 4.80) (envelope-from ) id 1aWrji-0002nq-Kl; Fri, 19 Feb 2016 21:33:10 +0100 From: David Engster To: Eli Zaretskii Subject: Re: bug#22715: 25.0.91; Point randomly jumps during key entry In-Reply-To: <83d1rtro0g.fsf@gnu.org> (Eli Zaretskii's message of "Fri, 19 Feb 2016 12:30:07 +0200") References: <20160217013949.GE2649@srevilak.net> <83r3gbuw2u.fsf@gnu.org> <20160219022240.GD2572@srevilak.net> <83d1rtro0g.fsf@gnu.org> User-Agent: Gnus/5.13001 (Ma Gnus v0.10) Emacs/25.0.50 (gnu/linux) Mail-Copies-To: never Date: Fri, 19 Feb 2016 21:33:05 +0100 Message-ID: <878u2gigou.fsf@engster.org> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain X-Spam-Score: 0.0 (/) X-Debbugs-Envelope-To: 22715 Cc: 22715@debbugs.gnu.org, Steve Revilak X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18 Precedence: list List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Sender: "Debbugs-submit" X-Spam-Score: 0.0 (/) Eli Zaretskii writes: >> https://lists.gnu.org/archive/html/emacs-devel/2016-01/msg00031.html >> >> suggests this might be related to Bug #15045. > > That bug was resolved. No, it turned out that #22287 was another issue than #15045, and it's not yet resolved. I really have to apologize for the delay here. I'll push a fix to emacs-25 over the weekend. -David From debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Sun Feb 21 11:27:36 2016 Received: (at 22715) by debbugs.gnu.org; 21 Feb 2016 16:27:37 +0000 Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:36521 helo=debbugs.gnu.org) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84) (envelope-from ) id 1aXWrA-0007at-NT for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Sun, 21 Feb 2016 11:27:36 -0500 Received: from randomsample.de ([5.45.97.173]:46206) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84) (envelope-from ) id 1aXWr8-0007al-Kj for 22715@debbugs.gnu.org; Sun, 21 Feb 2016 11:27:35 -0500 DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; q=dns/txt; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=randomsample.de; s=a; h=Content-Type:MIME-Version:Message-ID:Date:References:In-Reply-To:Subject:Cc:To:From; bh=cIfRs/PG5SgqV4s6XgCzmOhwnZ52TCTQHi0NP1mKXYs=; b=okReNW9vVZ12vPw3QJMVoObRJ+lI3JWa0Hz2Sc1yD80qzns28Yoq+LSeUGG+q+gRuJR567Ea37tHvCRYFQqTVRvJRWsfzvqz96Orrwiid4NzbI+jRVVE45WkkiJ1n4mk; Received: from ip4d1494ed.dynamic.kabel-deutschland.de ([77.20.148.237] helo=isaac) by randomsample.de with esmtpsa (TLS1.2:RSA_AES_128_CBC_SHA1:128) (Exim 4.80) (envelope-from ) id 1aXWr7-0005AR-1Z; Sun, 21 Feb 2016 17:27:33 +0100 From: David Engster To: Eli Zaretskii Subject: Re: bug#22715: 25.0.91; Point randomly jumps during key entry In-Reply-To: <878u2gigou.fsf@engster.org> (David Engster's message of "Fri, 19 Feb 2016 21:33:05 +0100") References: <20160217013949.GE2649@srevilak.net> <83r3gbuw2u.fsf@gnu.org> <20160219022240.GD2572@srevilak.net> <83d1rtro0g.fsf@gnu.org> <878u2gigou.fsf@engster.org> User-Agent: Gnus/5.13001 (Ma Gnus v0.10) Emacs/25.0.50 (gnu/linux) Date: Sun, 21 Feb 2016 17:27:28 +0100 Message-ID: <87k2ly9ggf.fsf@engster.org> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain X-Spam-Score: 0.0 (/) X-Debbugs-Envelope-To: 22715 Cc: 22715@debbugs.gnu.org, Steve Revilak X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18 Precedence: list List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Sender: "Debbugs-submit" X-Spam-Score: 0.0 (/) David Engster writes: > Eli Zaretskii writes: >>> https://lists.gnu.org/archive/html/emacs-devel/2016-01/msg00031.html >>> >>> suggests this might be related to Bug #15045. >> >> That bug was resolved. > > No, it turned out that #22287 was another issue than #15045, and it's > not yet resolved. I really have to apologize for the delay here. I'll > push a fix to emacs-25 over the weekend. Done. I hope this fixes this bug as well. -David From debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Sun Feb 21 12:19:54 2016 Received: (at 22715) by debbugs.gnu.org; 21 Feb 2016 17:19:54 +0000 Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:36536 helo=debbugs.gnu.org) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84) (envelope-from ) id 1aXXfm-0000Q4-AX for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Sun, 21 Feb 2016 12:19:54 -0500 Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([208.118.235.92]:34293) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84) (envelope-from ) id 1aXXfl-0000Pp-3H for 22715@debbugs.gnu.org; Sun, 21 Feb 2016 12:19:53 -0500 Received: from Debian-exim by eggs.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1aXXfe-000316-Lx for 22715@debbugs.gnu.org; Sun, 21 Feb 2016 12:19:47 -0500 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.3.2 (2011-06-06) on eggs.gnu.org X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-0.5 required=5.0 tests=BAYES_05,RP_MATCHES_RCVD autolearn=disabled version=3.3.2 Received: from fencepost.gnu.org ([2001:4830:134:3::e]:38444) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1aXXfW-0002zJ-Ti; Sun, 21 Feb 2016 12:19:38 -0500 Received: from 84.94.185.246.cable.012.net.il ([84.94.185.246]:4185 helo=home-c4e4a596f7) by fencepost.gnu.org with esmtpsa (TLS1.2:RSA_AES_128_CBC_SHA1:128) (Exim 4.82) (envelope-from ) id 1aXXfV-0004PP-Ve; Sun, 21 Feb 2016 12:19:38 -0500 Date: Sun, 21 Feb 2016 19:19:26 +0200 Message-Id: <83k2lym15t.fsf@gnu.org> From: Eli Zaretskii To: David Engster In-reply-to: <87k2ly9ggf.fsf@engster.org> (message from David Engster on Sun, 21 Feb 2016 17:27:28 +0100) Subject: Re: bug#22715: 25.0.91; Point randomly jumps during key entry References: <20160217013949.GE2649@srevilak.net> <83r3gbuw2u.fsf@gnu.org> <20160219022240.GD2572@srevilak.net> <83d1rtro0g.fsf@gnu.org> <878u2gigou.fsf@engster.org> <87k2ly9ggf.fsf@engster.org> X-detected-operating-system: by eggs.gnu.org: GNU/Linux 2.2.x-3.x [generic] X-Received-From: 2001:4830:134:3::e X-Spam-Score: -5.0 (-----) X-Debbugs-Envelope-To: 22715 Cc: 22715@debbugs.gnu.org, steve@srevilak.net X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18 Precedence: list List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Reply-To: Eli Zaretskii Errors-To: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Sender: "Debbugs-submit" X-Spam-Score: -5.0 (-----) > From: David Engster > Cc: 22715@debbugs.gnu.org, Steve Revilak > Date: Sun, 21 Feb 2016 17:27:28 +0100 > > David Engster writes: > > Eli Zaretskii writes: > >>> https://lists.gnu.org/archive/html/emacs-devel/2016-01/msg00031.html > >>> > >>> suggests this might be related to Bug #15045. > >> > >> That bug was resolved. > > > > No, it turned out that #22287 was another issue than #15045, and it's > > not yet resolved. I really have to apologize for the delay here. I'll > > push a fix to emacs-25 over the weekend. > > Done. I hope this fixes this bug as well. Thanks. Steve, please test. From debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Mon Feb 22 12:22:28 2016 Received: (at 22715) by debbugs.gnu.org; 22 Feb 2016 17:22:28 +0000 Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:38304 helo=debbugs.gnu.org) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84) (envelope-from ) id 1aXuBo-0007sX-5k for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Mon, 22 Feb 2016 12:22:28 -0500 Received: from paulo.mayfirst.org ([209.234.253.240]:54438) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84) (envelope-from ) id 1aXuBm-0007sQ-Op for 22715@debbugs.gnu.org; Mon, 22 Feb 2016 12:22:27 -0500 Received: from paulo.mayfirst.org (unknown [127.0.0.1]) by paulo.mayfirst.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7FFA13F2D; Mon, 22 Feb 2016 12:22:26 -0500 (EST) Received: from [127.0.0.1] (localhost [127.0.0.1]) (Authenticated sender: srevilak@paulo.mayfirst.org) with ESMTPSA id 502873F0F Date: Mon, 22 Feb 2016 12:22:18 -0500 From: Steve Revilak To: Eli Zaretskii Subject: Re: bug#22715: 25.0.91; Point randomly jumps during key entry Message-ID: <20160222172217.GA15964@srevilak.net> References: <20160217013949.GE2649@srevilak.net> <83r3gbuw2u.fsf@gnu.org> <20160219022240.GD2572@srevilak.net> <83d1rtro0g.fsf@gnu.org> <878u2gigou.fsf@engster.org> <87k2ly9ggf.fsf@engster.org> <83k2lym15t.fsf@gnu.org> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; format=flowed Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <83k2lym15t.fsf@gnu.org> User-Agent: Mutt/1.5.20 (2009-12-10) X-Virus-Scanned: ClamAV using ClamSMTP X-Spam-Score: -2.3 (--) X-Debbugs-Envelope-To: 22715 Cc: 22715@debbugs.gnu.org, David Engster X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18 Precedence: list List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Sender: "Debbugs-submit" X-Spam-Score: -2.3 (--) Eli and David, Thanks for you help! I have one small question about testing. Should I `git clone git://git.savannah.gnu.org/emacs.git', check out the emacs-25 branch, then build and test there? Or, is there a patch I should apply to the 25.0.91 pretest sources? Steve From debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Mon Feb 22 12:38:22 2016 Received: (at 22715) by debbugs.gnu.org; 22 Feb 2016 17:38:22 +0000 Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:38331 helo=debbugs.gnu.org) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84) (envelope-from ) id 1aXuRC-0008I8-9z for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Mon, 22 Feb 2016 12:38:22 -0500 Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([208.118.235.92]:37692) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84) (envelope-from ) id 1aXuRA-0008Hu-PN for 22715@debbugs.gnu.org; Mon, 22 Feb 2016 12:38:21 -0500 Received: from Debian-exim by eggs.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1aXuR1-0007lQ-Fl for 22715@debbugs.gnu.org; Mon, 22 Feb 2016 12:38:15 -0500 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.3.2 (2011-06-06) on eggs.gnu.org X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-0.0 required=5.0 tests=BAYES_20,RP_MATCHES_RCVD autolearn=disabled version=3.3.2 Received: from fencepost.gnu.org ([2001:4830:134:3::e]:40959) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1aXuR1-0007lM-DR; Mon, 22 Feb 2016 12:38:11 -0500 Received: from 84.94.185.246.cable.012.net.il ([84.94.185.246]:1374 helo=home-c4e4a596f7) by fencepost.gnu.org with esmtpsa (TLS1.2:RSA_AES_128_CBC_SHA1:128) (Exim 4.82) (envelope-from ) id 1aXuQz-0005JH-OY; Mon, 22 Feb 2016 12:38:10 -0500 Date: Mon, 22 Feb 2016 19:38:01 +0200 Message-Id: <838u2clk7a.fsf@gnu.org> From: Eli Zaretskii To: Steve Revilak In-reply-to: <20160222172217.GA15964@srevilak.net> (message from Steve Revilak on Mon, 22 Feb 2016 12:22:18 -0500) Subject: Re: bug#22715: 25.0.91; Point randomly jumps during key entry References: <20160217013949.GE2649@srevilak.net> <83r3gbuw2u.fsf@gnu.org> <20160219022240.GD2572@srevilak.net> <83d1rtro0g.fsf@gnu.org> <878u2gigou.fsf@engster.org> <87k2ly9ggf.fsf@engster.org> <83k2lym15t.fsf@gnu.org> <20160222172217.GA15964@srevilak.net> X-detected-operating-system: by eggs.gnu.org: GNU/Linux 2.2.x-3.x [generic] X-Received-From: 2001:4830:134:3::e X-Spam-Score: -5.0 (-----) X-Debbugs-Envelope-To: 22715 Cc: 22715@debbugs.gnu.org, deng@randomsample.de X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18 Precedence: list List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Reply-To: Eli Zaretskii Errors-To: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Sender: "Debbugs-submit" X-Spam-Score: -5.0 (-----) > Date: Mon, 22 Feb 2016 12:22:18 -0500 > From: Steve Revilak > Cc: David Engster , 22715@debbugs.gnu.org > > Should I `git clone git://git.savannah.gnu.org/emacs.git', check out > the emacs-25 branch, then build and test there? Or, is there a patch > I should apply to the 25.0.91 pretest sources? It's up to you. If you want to go the patch way, simply apply the patch you see in David's changeset. From debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Mon Feb 22 13:33:28 2016 Received: (at 22715) by debbugs.gnu.org; 22 Feb 2016 18:33:28 +0000 Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:38408 helo=debbugs.gnu.org) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84) (envelope-from ) id 1aXvIW-0001JT-Mv for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Mon, 22 Feb 2016 13:33:28 -0500 Received: from paulo.mayfirst.org ([209.234.253.240]:53745) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84) (envelope-from ) id 1aXvIV-0001JM-Kx for 22715@debbugs.gnu.org; Mon, 22 Feb 2016 13:33:27 -0500 Received: from paulo.mayfirst.org (unknown [127.0.0.1]) by paulo.mayfirst.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 01FA23F2F; Mon, 22 Feb 2016 13:33:27 -0500 (EST) Received: from [127.0.0.1] (localhost [127.0.0.1]) (Authenticated sender: srevilak@paulo.mayfirst.org) with ESMTPSA id C55823F2E Date: Mon, 22 Feb 2016 13:33:18 -0500 From: Steve Revilak To: Eli Zaretskii Subject: Re: bug#22715: 25.0.91; Point randomly jumps during key entry Message-ID: <20160222183317.GA24871@srevilak.net> References: <20160217013949.GE2649@srevilak.net> <83r3gbuw2u.fsf@gnu.org> <20160219022240.GD2572@srevilak.net> <83d1rtro0g.fsf@gnu.org> <878u2gigou.fsf@engster.org> <87k2ly9ggf.fsf@engster.org> <83k2lym15t.fsf@gnu.org> <20160222172217.GA15964@srevilak.net> <838u2clk7a.fsf@gnu.org> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; format=flowed Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <838u2clk7a.fsf@gnu.org> User-Agent: Mutt/1.5.20 (2009-12-10) X-Virus-Scanned: ClamAV using ClamSMTP X-Spam-Score: -2.3 (--) X-Debbugs-Envelope-To: 22715 Cc: 22715@debbugs.gnu.org, deng@randomsample.de X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18 Precedence: list List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Sender: "Debbugs-submit" X-Spam-Score: -2.3 (--) I patched the 29.0.91 pretest sources with diffs from these two commits: --------------------------------- commit aa5a7948431437fc09931ac21eb05f365e1f8876 Author: David Engster Date: Sun Feb 21 17:16:45 2016 +0100 Remove `semanticdb-save-all-db-idle' from `auto-save-hook' * lisp/cedet/semantic/db-mode.el (semanticdb-hooks): Do not put `semanticdb-save-all-db-idle' into `auto-save-hook'. The latter is not an idle hook, so it's not appropriate to call it there. It will already be called in the `semantic-idle-work-core-handler', which runs when Emacs is actually idle. commit 2d8b2fd034ccc61f949b408373342b5f9f8ba592 Author: David Engster Date: Sun Feb 21 17:11:01 2016 +0100 Restore point when writing semantic table to disk * lisp/cedet/semantic/db-file.el (object-write): Wrap call to `semantic-fetch-tags' in `save-excursion', since it might move point in current buffer. (Bug #22287) --------------------------------- I'll work with these changes for a while, and report back with my findings. From debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Tue Feb 23 20:47:07 2016 Received: (at 22715-done) by debbugs.gnu.org; 24 Feb 2016 01:47:07 +0000 Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:41875 helo=debbugs.gnu.org) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84) (envelope-from ) id 1aYOXj-00077R-44 for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Tue, 23 Feb 2016 20:47:07 -0500 Received: from gil.mayfirst.org ([216.66.23.48]:34125) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84) (envelope-from ) id 1aYOXh-00077J-5a for 22715-done@debbugs.gnu.org; Tue, 23 Feb 2016 20:47:05 -0500 Received: from gil.mayfirst.org (unknown [127.0.0.1]) by gil.mayfirst.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 83AB45E91; Tue, 23 Feb 2016 20:47:02 -0500 (EST) Received: from [127.0.0.1] (localhost [127.0.0.1]) (Authenticated sender: srevilak@gil.mayfirst.org) with ESMTPSA id 480AF5E52 Date: Tue, 23 Feb 2016 20:47:03 -0500 From: Steve Revilak To: Eli Zaretskii Subject: Re: bug#22715: 25.0.91; Point randomly jumps during key entry Message-ID: <20160224014703.GD2661@srevilak.net> References: <20160217013949.GE2649@srevilak.net> <83r3gbuw2u.fsf@gnu.org> <20160219022240.GD2572@srevilak.net> <83d1rtro0g.fsf@gnu.org> <878u2gigou.fsf@engster.org> <87k2ly9ggf.fsf@engster.org> <83k2lym15t.fsf@gnu.org> <20160222172217.GA15964@srevilak.net> <838u2clk7a.fsf@gnu.org> <20160222183317.GA24871@srevilak.net> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/signed; micalg=pgp-sha256; protocol="application/pgp-signature"; boundary="cHMo6Wbp1wrKhbfi" Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <20160222183317.GA24871@srevilak.net> User-Agent: Mutt/1.5.21 (2010-09-15) X-Virus-Scanned: ClamAV using ClamSMTP X-Spam-Score: -2.3 (--) X-Debbugs-Envelope-To: 22715-done Cc: 22715-done@debbugs.gnu.org, deng@randomsample.de X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18 Precedence: list List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Sender: "Debbugs-submit" X-Spam-Score: -2.3 (--) --cHMo6Wbp1wrKhbfi Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; format=flowed Content-Disposition: inline After applying commit aa5a7948431437fc09931ac21eb05f365e1f8876 commit 2d8b2fd034ccc61f949b408373342b5f9f8ba592 to the emacs-25.0.91 pretest, the `point-jumping' no longer occurs. Thanks again for your help! 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