From unknown Mon Jun 23 23:54:34 2025 X-Loop: owner@emacsbugs.donarmstrong.com Subject: bug#2270: 23.0.90; find-library: (1) doc string, (2) other-window version Reply-To: "Drew Adams" , 2270@debbugs.gnu.org Resent-From: "Drew Adams" Resent-To: bug-submit-list@lists.donarmstrong.com Resent-CC: Emacs Bugs Resent-Date: Tue, 10 Feb 2009 18:25:04 +0000 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-Sender: help-debbugs@gnu.org X-Emacs-PR-Message: report 2270 X-Emacs-PR-Package: emacs X-Emacs-PR-Keywords: Received: via spool by submit@emacsbugs.donarmstrong.com id=B.123429025832524 (code B ref -1); Tue, 10 Feb 2009 18:25:04 +0000 Received: (at submit) by emacsbugs.donarmstrong.com; 10 Feb 2009 18:24:18 +0000 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.2.5-bugs.debian.org_2005_01_02 (2008-06-10) on rzlab.ucr.edu X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Bayes: score:0.5 Bayes not run. spammytokens:Tokens not available. hammytokens:Tokens not available. 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The doc string of find-library says only this: "Find the elisp source of LIBRARY." Hardly very helpful. What is LIBRARY? A file name as a string? Absolute or relative? A symbol naming a feature? A symbol naming a relative file name? All of the above? Also, "elisp" should be "Emacs-Lisp". 2. Please add this command (or equivalent), after adjusting its doc string also to explain what LIBRARY is: (defun find-library-other-window (library) "Find the Emacs-Lisp source of LIBRARY in another window." (interactive (let* ((path (cons (or find-function-source-path load-path) (find-library-suffixes))) (def (if (eq (function-called-at-point) 'require) (save-excursion (backward-up-list) (forward-char) (backward-sexp -2) (thing-at-point 'symbol)) (thing-at-point 'symbol)))) (when def (setq def (and (locate-file-completion def path 'test) def))) (list (completing-read "Library name: " 'locate-file-completion path nil nil nil def)))) (let ((buf (find-file-noselect (find-library-name library)))) (pop-to-buffer buf 'other-window))) In GNU Emacs 23.0.90.1 (i386-mingw-nt5.1.2600) of 2009-02-01 on SOFT-MJASON Windowing system distributor `Microsoft Corp.', version 5.1.2600 configured using `configure --with-gcc (3.4)' From unknown Mon Jun 23 23:54:34 2025 X-Loop: owner@emacsbugs.donarmstrong.com Subject: bug#2270: 23.0.90; find-library: (1) doc string, (2) other-window version Reply-To: Chong Yidong , 2270@debbugs.gnu.org Resent-From: Chong Yidong Resent-To: bug-submit-list@lists.donarmstrong.com Resent-CC: Emacs Bugs Resent-Date: Wed, 11 Feb 2009 02:35:03 +0000 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-Sender: help-debbugs@gnu.org X-Emacs-PR-Message: followup 2270 X-Emacs-PR-Package: emacs X-Emacs-PR-Keywords: Received: via spool by 2270-submit@emacsbugs.donarmstrong.com id=B2270.123431918714360 (code B ref 2270); Wed, 11 Feb 2009 02:35:03 +0000 Received: (at 2270) by emacsbugs.donarmstrong.com; 11 Feb 2009 02:26:27 +0000 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.2.5-bugs.debian.org_2005_01_02 (2008-06-10) on rzlab.ucr.edu X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Bayes: score:0.5 Bayes not run. spammytokens:Tokens not available. hammytokens:Tokens not available. X-Spam-Status: No, score=0.0 required=4.0 tests=none autolearn=ham version=3.2.5-bugs.debian.org_2005_01_02 Received: from cyd.mit.edu (CYD.MIT.EDU [18.115.2.24]) by rzlab.ucr.edu (8.13.8/8.13.8/Debian-3) with ESMTP id n1B2QO3r014354 for <2270@emacsbugs.donarmstrong.com>; Tue, 10 Feb 2009 18:26:25 -0800 Received: by cyd.mit.edu (Postfix, from userid 1000) id 6A1A757E1D7; Tue, 10 Feb 2009 21:27:10 -0500 (EST) From: Chong Yidong To: "Drew Adams" Cc: 2270@debbugs.gnu.org Date: Tue, 10 Feb 2009 21:27:10 -0500 Message-ID: <871vu5d7y9.fsf@cyd.mit.edu> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii > 1. The doc string of find-library says only this: > "Find the elisp source of LIBRARY." > > Hardly very helpful. I've clarified it. > 2. Please add this command (or equivalent), after adjusting its doc > string also to explain what LIBRARY is: After the release, maybe. 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(2) other-window version Resent-From: "Drew Adams" Original-Sender: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Resent-CC: bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org Resent-Date: Wed, 24 Oct 2012 17:45:01 +0000 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-Sender: help-debbugs@gnu.org X-GNU-PR-Message: followup 2270 X-GNU-PR-Package: emacs X-GNU-PR-Keywords: To: "'Chong Yidong'" Cc: 2270@emacsbugs.donarmstrong.com, 2270@debbugs.gnu.org Received: via spool by 2270-submit@debbugs.gnu.org id=B2270.135110065123337 (code B ref 2270); Wed, 24 Oct 2012 17:45:01 +0000 Received: (at 2270) by debbugs.gnu.org; 24 Oct 2012 17:44:11 +0000 Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:59898 helo=debbugs.gnu.org) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.72) (envelope-from ) id 1TR4zy-00064L-7s for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Wed, 24 Oct 2012 13:44:10 -0400 Received: from rcsinet15.oracle.com ([148.87.113.117]:51141) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.72) (envelope-from ) id 1TR4zw-000644-0u; Wed, 24 Oct 2012 13:44:08 -0400 Received: from acsinet21.oracle.com (acsinet21.oracle.com [141.146.126.237]) by rcsinet15.oracle.com (Sentrion-MTA-4.2.2/Sentrion-MTA-4.2.2) with ESMTP id q9OHg1Lj024149 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA bits=256 verify=OK); Wed, 24 Oct 2012 17:42:03 GMT Received: from acsmt357.oracle.com (acsmt357.oracle.com [141.146.40.157]) by acsinet21.oracle.com (8.14.4+Sun/8.14.4) with ESMTP id q9OHg0Pt026083 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA bits=256 verify=NO); Wed, 24 Oct 2012 17:42:01 GMT Received: from abhmt111.oracle.com (abhmt111.oracle.com [141.146.116.63]) by acsmt357.oracle.com (8.12.11.20060308/8.12.11) with ESMTP id q9OHg0DY016870; Wed, 24 Oct 2012 12:42:00 -0500 Received: from dradamslap1 (/130.35.178.248) by default (Oracle Beehive Gateway v4.0) with ESMTP ; Wed, 24 Oct 2012 10:42:00 -0700 From: "Drew Adams" References: <871vu5d7y9.fsf@cyd.mit.edu> Date: Wed, 24 Oct 2012 10:41:59 -0700 Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: Microsoft Office Outlook 11 In-Reply-To: <871vu5d7y9.fsf@cyd.mit.edu> Thread-Index: AcmL8C4u/aRHMyh+T4uqQq/8fpOECIhMOlig X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.6157 X-Source-IP: acsinet21.oracle.com [141.146.126.237] X-Spam-Score: -0.9 (/) X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.13 Precedence: list List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Sender: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Errors-To: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org X-Spam-Score: -0.9 (/) > Sent: Tuesday, February 10, 2009 6:27 PM > > > 2. Please add this command (or equivalent), after adjusting its doc > > string also to explain what LIBRARY is: > > After the release, maybe. Clearly, that upcoming release was many moon ago. I repeat my suggestion to add command `find-library-other-window'. I also suggest that it be bound by default to `C-x 4 l'. I've used this command & key forever, and wouldn't be without it. (And I rarely have a need anymore for same-window `find-library'.) --- (defun find-library-other-window (library) "Find the Emacs-Lisp source of LIBRARY in another window." (interactive (progn (require 'find-func) (let* ((path (cons (or find-function-source-path load-path) (find-library-suffixes))) (def (if (eq (function-called-at-point) 'require) (save-excursion (backward-up-list) (forward-char) (backward-sexp -2) (thing-at-point 'symbol)) (thing-at-point 'symbol)))) (when def (setq def (and (locate-file-completion def path 'test) def))) (list (completing-read "Library name: " 'locate-file-completion path nil nil nil def))))) (let ((buf (find-file-noselect (find-library-name library)))) (pop-to-buffer buf 'other-window))) From unknown Mon Jun 23 23:54:34 2025 X-Loop: help-debbugs@gnu.org Subject: bug#2270: [PATCH] bug#2270, RE: 23.0.90; find-library:... (2) other-window version Resent-From: "Drew Adams" Original-Sender: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Resent-CC: bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org Resent-Date: Wed, 24 Oct 2012 19:42:02 +0000 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-Sender: help-debbugs@gnu.org X-GNU-PR-Message: followup 2270 X-GNU-PR-Package: emacs X-GNU-PR-Keywords: To: "'Stefan Monnier'" Cc: 2270@emacsbugs.donarmstrong.com, 'Chong Yidong' , 2270@debbugs.gnu.org Received: via spool by 2270-submit@debbugs.gnu.org id=B2270.13511076624659 (code B ref 2270); Wed, 24 Oct 2012 19:42:02 +0000 Received: (at 2270) by debbugs.gnu.org; 24 Oct 2012 19:41:02 +0000 Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:60026 helo=debbugs.gnu.org) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.72) (envelope-from ) id 1TR6p4-0001D5-DJ for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Wed, 24 Oct 2012 15:41:02 -0400 Received: from rcsinet15.oracle.com ([148.87.113.117]:48533) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.72) (envelope-from ) id 1TR6p2-0001CW-9u; Wed, 24 Oct 2012 15:41:01 -0400 Received: from acsinet21.oracle.com (acsinet21.oracle.com [141.146.126.237]) by rcsinet15.oracle.com (Sentrion-MTA-4.2.2/Sentrion-MTA-4.2.2) with ESMTP id q9OJcrG1023735 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA bits=256 verify=OK); Wed, 24 Oct 2012 19:38:54 GMT Received: from acsmt358.oracle.com (acsmt358.oracle.com [141.146.40.158]) by acsinet21.oracle.com (8.14.4+Sun/8.14.4) with ESMTP id q9OJcqGn025943 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA bits=256 verify=NO); Wed, 24 Oct 2012 19:38:53 GMT Received: from abhmt103.oracle.com (abhmt103.oracle.com [141.146.116.55]) by acsmt358.oracle.com (8.12.11.20060308/8.12.11) with ESMTP id q9OJcq9s030234; Wed, 24 Oct 2012 14:38:52 -0500 Received: from dradamslap1 (/130.35.178.248) by default (Oracle Beehive Gateway v4.0) with ESMTP ; Wed, 24 Oct 2012 12:38:52 -0700 From: "Drew Adams" References: <871vu5d7y9.fsf@cyd.mit.edu> Date: Wed, 24 Oct 2012 12:38:51 -0700 Message-ID: <07346487C61E40D891C856C44C06986E@us.oracle.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: Microsoft Office Outlook 11 In-Reply-To: Thread-Index: Ac2yGDdHub5FFHGeS0O/7FiBWnCXuAABDdvA X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.6157 X-Source-IP: acsinet21.oracle.com [141.146.126.237] X-Spam-Score: -0.9 (/) X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.13 Precedence: list List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Sender: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Errors-To: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org X-Spam-Score: -0.9 (/) > > I repeat my suggestion to add command `find-library-other-window'. > > As mentioned in other threads, I'd rather we add a "use other > window for next command" prefix command (which we could bind > to C-x 4), I could live with adding yet another such foo-other-window > command since we don't yet have such a prefix command. Yes, please add it while waiting for your ideal to bless the planet. ;-) > > I also suggest that it be bound by default to `C-x 4 l'. > > Since find-library is not bound to any key, I don't think > find-library-other-window should be bound either. "Since"? The one doesn't follow from the other. There is no logical reason why we cannot have one command bound and not the other. It depends on what we expect the most common uses to be. I proposed a key for the other-window version because I don't think the same-window version is very useful. But that's me. In any case, FWIW, I disagree that this should not be bound by default. But if you are coming from the point of view that things must follow your proposed new _implementation_, then such a hard-and-fast rule pretty much follows, I'm guessing. In spite of the fact that it might not be useful/needed in all cases. Hammer therefore nail? > > I've used this command & key forever, and wouldn't be without it. > > (And I rarely have a need anymore for same-window `find-library'.) > > In my experience, people rarely need both the "same-window" and the > "other-window" forms of a command, indeed. Disagree, as one of the "people". In this case, yes (this person rarely uses the same-window version of this particular command). But not in general. I use BOTH versions of most same- and other-window commands. You keep repeating that supposition, BTW, but so far haven't provided any data backing it up. I, for one, would find it hard to believe that many people use only `C-x C-f' or `C-x 4 f', but not both. Perhaps this too is hammer therefore nail? Does your proposed implementation perhaps require a user to opt for one or the other for all uses? Whatever. I have the command/key for my own use. 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The original message has been attached to this so you can view it (if it isn't spam) or label similar future email. If you have any questions, see the administrator of that system for details. Content preview: > Yes, please add it while waiting for your ideal to bless the planet. ;-) Please provide a proper patch (i.e. not one that doesn't simply duplicate find-library's code.) > only `C-x C-f' or `C-x 4 f', but not both. [...] Content analysis details: (4.8 points, 10.0 required) pts rule name description ---- ---------------------- -------------------------------------------------- -0.7 RCVD_IN_DNSWL_LOW RBL: Sender listed at http://www.dnswl.org/, low trust [206.248.154.182 listed in list.dnswl.org] 0.7 SPF_SOFTFAIL SPF: sender does not match SPF record (softfail) 0.8 BAYES_50 BODY: Bayes spam probability is 40 to 60% [score: 0.5000] 4.0 EMACSBUGS_TO Sent to the old emacsbugs server > Yes, please add it while waiting for your ideal to bless the planet. ;-) Please provide a proper patch (i.e. not one that doesn't simply duplicate find-library's code.) > only `C-x C-f' or `C-x 4 f', but not both. Actually, adding a C-x 4 prefix that works for "all" commands would make sure that both options are always available. Stefan From unknown Mon Jun 23 23:54:34 2025 X-Loop: help-debbugs@gnu.org Subject: bug#2270: [PATCH] bug#2270, RE: 23.0.90; find-library:... (2) other-window version Resent-From: Stefan Monnier Original-Sender: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Resent-CC: bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org Resent-Date: Wed, 24 Oct 2012 21:23:02 +0000 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-Sender: help-debbugs@gnu.org X-GNU-PR-Message: followup 2270 X-GNU-PR-Package: emacs X-GNU-PR-Keywords: To: "Drew Adams" Cc: 2270@emacsbugs.donarmstrong.com, 'Chong Yidong' , 2270@debbugs.gnu.org Received: via spool by 2270-submit@debbugs.gnu.org id=B2270.135111376813454 (code B ref 2270); Wed, 24 Oct 2012 21:23:02 +0000 Received: (at 2270) by debbugs.gnu.org; 24 Oct 2012 21:22:48 +0000 Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:60080 helo=debbugs.gnu.org) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.72) (envelope-from ) id 1TR8PX-0003Ut-Ol for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Wed, 24 Oct 2012 17:22:48 -0400 Received: from ironport2-out.teksavvy.com ([206.248.154.182]:60492) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.72) (envelope-from ) id 1TR8PV-0003Uc-RJ for 2270@emacsbugs.donarmstrong.com; Wed, 24 Oct 2012 17:22:46 -0400 X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Filtered: true X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Result: Av0EAG6Zu0/O+LFW/2dsb2JhbABEtBGBCIIVAQEEAVYjBQsLNBIUGA0kiBwFugmQRAOjM4FYgwU X-IronPort-AV: E=Sophos;i="4.75,637,1330923600"; d="scan'208";a="202654630" Received: from 206-248-177-86.dsl.teksavvy.com (HELO pastel.home) ([206.248.177.86]) by ironport2-out.teksavvy.com with ESMTP/TLS/ADH-AES256-SHA; 24 Oct 2012 17:20:39 -0400 Received: by pastel.home (Postfix, from userid 20848) id A7974593D3; Wed, 24 Oct 2012 17:20:39 -0400 (EDT) From: Stefan Monnier Message-ID: References: <871vu5d7y9.fsf@cyd.mit.edu> <07346487C61E40D891C856C44C06986E@us.oracle.com> Date: Wed, 24 Oct 2012 17:20:39 -0400 In-Reply-To: (Stefan Monnier's message of "Wed, 24 Oct 2012 16:42:56 -0400") User-Agent: Gnus/5.13 (Gnus v5.13) Emacs/24.2.50 (gnu/linux) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain X-Spam-Score: 4.8 (++++) X-Spam-Report: Spam detection software, running on the system "debbugs.gnu.org", has identified this incoming email as possible spam. The original message has been attached to this so you can view it (if it isn't spam) or label similar future email. If you have any questions, see the administrator of that system for details. Content preview: > Please provide a proper patch (i.e. not one that doesn't simply ^^^ > duplicate find-library's code.) Sorry for the extra `not'. 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The original message has been attached to this so you can view it (if it isn't spam) or label similar future email. If you have any questions, see the administrator of that system for details. Content preview: > Please provide a proper patch (i.e. not one that doesn't simply ^^^ > duplicate find-library's code.) Sorry for the extra `not'. Stefan [...] Content analysis details: (4.8 points, 10.0 required) pts rule name description ---- ---------------------- -------------------------------------------------- -0.7 RCVD_IN_DNSWL_LOW RBL: Sender listed at http://www.dnswl.org/, low trust [206.248.154.182 listed in list.dnswl.org] 0.7 SPF_SOFTFAIL SPF: sender does not match SPF record (softfail) 0.8 BAYES_50 BODY: Bayes spam probability is 40 to 60% [score: 0.5000] 4.0 EMACSBUGS_TO Sent to the old emacsbugs server > Please provide a proper patch (i.e. not one that doesn't simply ^^^ > duplicate find-library's code.) Sorry for the extra `not'. Stefan From unknown Mon Jun 23 23:54:34 2025 X-Loop: help-debbugs@gnu.org Subject: bug#2270: [PATCH] bug#2270, RE: 23.0.90; find-library:... (2) other-window version Resent-From: "Drew Adams" Original-Sender: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Resent-CC: bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org Resent-Date: Wed, 24 Oct 2012 21:28:02 +0000 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-Sender: help-debbugs@gnu.org X-GNU-PR-Message: followup 2270 X-GNU-PR-Package: emacs X-GNU-PR-Keywords: To: "'Stefan Monnier'" Cc: 2270@emacsbugs.donarmstrong.com, 'Chong Yidong' , 2270@debbugs.gnu.org Received: via spool by 2270-submit@debbugs.gnu.org id=B2270.135111404713941 (code B ref 2270); Wed, 24 Oct 2012 21:28:02 +0000 Received: (at 2270) by debbugs.gnu.org; 24 Oct 2012 21:27:27 +0000 Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:60103 helo=debbugs.gnu.org) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.72) (envelope-from ) id 1TR8U2-0003cm-Mj for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Wed, 24 Oct 2012 17:27:26 -0400 Received: from userp1040.oracle.com ([156.151.31.81]:38286) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.72) (envelope-from ) id 1TR8U1-0003cV-7y; Wed, 24 Oct 2012 17:27:25 -0400 Received: from acsinet21.oracle.com (acsinet21.oracle.com [141.146.126.237]) by userp1040.oracle.com (Sentrion-MTA-4.2.2/Sentrion-MTA-4.2.2) with ESMTP id q9OLPI6L025718 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA bits=256 verify=OK); Wed, 24 Oct 2012 21:25:19 GMT Received: from acsmt357.oracle.com (acsmt357.oracle.com [141.146.40.157]) by acsinet21.oracle.com (8.14.4+Sun/8.14.4) with ESMTP id q9OLPHkQ029623 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA bits=256 verify=NO); Wed, 24 Oct 2012 21:25:17 GMT Received: from abhmt109.oracle.com (abhmt109.oracle.com [141.146.116.61]) by acsmt357.oracle.com (8.12.11.20060308/8.12.11) with ESMTP id q9OLPHpG012252; Wed, 24 Oct 2012 16:25:17 -0500 Received: from dradamslap1 (/10.159.178.166) by default (Oracle Beehive Gateway v4.0) with ESMTP ; Wed, 24 Oct 2012 14:25:17 -0700 From: "Drew Adams" References: <871vu5d7y9.fsf@cyd.mit.edu><07346487C61E40D891C856C44C06986E@us.oracle.com> Date: Wed, 24 Oct 2012 14:25:14 -0700 Message-ID: <06691A5A9E1B4BC7BC157ADFE73B5A24@us.oracle.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: Microsoft Office Outlook 11 In-reply-to: Thread-Index: Ac2yKCho1F7PXpfpRjOYZDLNH7sgHwABOM7w X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.6157 X-Source-IP: acsinet21.oracle.com [141.146.126.237] X-Spam-Score: 4.8 (++++) X-Spam-Report: Spam detection software, running on the system "debbugs.gnu.org", has identified this incoming email as possible spam. The original message has been attached to this so you can view it (if it isn't spam) or label similar future email. If you have any questions, see the administrator of that system for details. Content preview: > Please provide a proper patch (i.e. not one that doesn't simply > duplicate find-library's code.) Dunno what you mean. Do you just mean a proper patch (e.g. `diff' output) or are you saying that you want code that is different from what I sent? 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The original message has been attached to this so you can view it (if it isn't spam) or label similar future email. If you have any questions, see the administrator of that system for details. Content preview: > Please provide a proper patch (i.e. not one that doesn't simply > duplicate find-library's code.) Dunno what you mean. Do you just mean a proper patch (e.g. `diff' output) or are you saying that you want code that is different from what I sent? [...] Content analysis details: (4.8 points, 10.0 required) pts rule name description ---- ---------------------- -------------------------------------------------- 0.8 SPF_NEUTRAL SPF: sender does not match SPF record (neutral) -0.7 RP_MATCHES_RCVD Envelope sender domain matches handover relay domain 0.8 BAYES_50 BODY: Bayes spam probability is 40 to 60% [score: 0.5000] 4.0 EMACSBUGS_TO Sent to the old emacsbugs server 0.0 UNPARSEABLE_RELAY Informational: message has unparseable relay lines > Please provide a proper patch (i.e. not one that doesn't simply > duplicate find-library's code.) Dunno what you mean. Do you just mean a proper patch (e.g. `diff' output) or are you saying that you want code that is different from what I sent? > > only `C-x C-f' or `C-x 4 f', but not both. > > Actually, adding a C-x 4 prefix that works for "all" commands > would make sure that both options are always available. That's fine. I already spoke up in favor of your idea (in the abstract). I assume that it will be just as easy as now for a user to bind a different function to one or the other key sequence, without affecting the other? IOW, today a user can easily bind `C-x 4 f' to `butterfly' and leave `C-x C-f' bound to `find-file'. I assume that will be just as easy after your implementation. Likewise, for unbinding one of the two but not the other. From unknown Mon Jun 23 23:54:34 2025 X-Loop: help-debbugs@gnu.org Subject: bug#2270: [PATCH] bug#2270, RE: 23.0.90; find-library:... (2) other-window version Resent-From: Lars Ingebrigtsen Original-Sender: "Debbugs-submit" Resent-CC: bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org Resent-Date: Wed, 27 Apr 2016 17:27:01 +0000 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-Sender: help-debbugs@gnu.org X-GNU-PR-Message: followup 2270 X-GNU-PR-Package: emacs X-GNU-PR-Keywords: To: "Drew Adams" Cc: 2270@emacsbugs.donarmstrong.com, 'Chong Yidong' , 'Stefan Monnier' , 2270@debbugs.gnu.org Received: via spool by 2270-submit@debbugs.gnu.org id=B2270.146177800217637 (code B ref 2270); Wed, 27 Apr 2016 17:27:01 +0000 Received: (at 2270) by debbugs.gnu.org; 27 Apr 2016 17:26:42 +0000 Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:50388 helo=debbugs.gnu.org) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1avTEY-0004aN-CG for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Wed, 27 Apr 2016 13:26:42 -0400 Received: from hermes.netfonds.no ([80.91.224.195]:46679) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1avTEW-0004aC-MV; Wed, 27 Apr 2016 13:26:41 -0400 Received: from cm-84.215.1.64.getinternet.no ([84.215.1.64] helo=mouse) by hermes.netfonds.no with esmtpsa (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_128_GCM_SHA256:128) (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1avTEB-0000N3-On; Wed, 27 Apr 2016 19:26:38 +0200 From: Lars Ingebrigtsen References: <871vu5d7y9.fsf@cyd.mit.edu> <07346487C61E40D891C856C44C06986E@us.oracle.com> <06691A5A9E1B4BC7BC157ADFE73B5A24@us.oracle.com> Date: Wed, 27 Apr 2016 19:26:19 +0200 In-Reply-To: <06691A5A9E1B4BC7BC157ADFE73B5A24@us.oracle.com> (Drew Adams's message of "Wed, 24 Oct 2012 14:25:14 -0700") Message-ID: <87bn4vgdz8.fsf@gnus.org> User-Agent: Gnus/5.13 (Gnus v5.13) Emacs/25.1.50 (gnu/linux) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain X-Spam-Score: 4.0 (++++) X-Spam-Report: Spam detection software, running on the system "debbugs.gnu.org", has NOT identified this incoming email as spam. The original message has been attached to this so you can view it or label similar future email. If you have any questions, see the administrator of that system for details. Content preview: I've now added a prefix argument to pop to a different window. I've also cleaned up the switch-to-buffer error handling code, which I think isn't necessary any more after Martin's window fixes... -- (domestic pets only, the antidote for overdose, milk.) bloggy blog: http://lars.ingebrigtsen.no [...] Content analysis details: (4.0 points, 10.0 required) pts rule name description ---- ---------------------- -------------------------------------------------- -0.0 RCVD_IN_DNSWL_NONE RBL: Sender listed at http://www.dnswl.org/, no trust [80.91.224.195 listed in list.dnswl.org] 4.0 EMACSBUGS_TO Sent to the old emacsbugs server X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18 Precedence: list List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Sender: "Debbugs-submit" X-Spam-Score: 4.0 (++++) X-Spam-Report: Spam detection software, running on the system "debbugs.gnu.org", has NOT identified this incoming email as spam. The original message has been attached to this so you can view it or label similar future email. If you have any questions, see the administrator of that system for details. Content preview: I've now added a prefix argument to pop to a different window. I've also cleaned up the switch-to-buffer error handling code, which I think isn't necessary any more after Martin's window fixes... -- (domestic pets only, the antidote for overdose, milk.) bloggy blog: http://lars.ingebrigtsen.no [...] Content analysis details: (4.0 points, 10.0 required) pts rule name description ---- ---------------------- -------------------------------------------------- -0.0 RCVD_IN_DNSWL_NONE RBL: Sender listed at http://www.dnswl.org/, no trust [80.91.224.195 listed in list.dnswl.org] 4.0 EMACSBUGS_TO Sent to the old emacsbugs server I've now added a prefix argument to pop to a different window. I've also cleaned up the switch-to-buffer error handling code, which I think isn't necessary any more after Martin's window fixes... -- (domestic pets only, the antidote for overdose, milk.) bloggy blog: http://lars.ingebrigtsen.no From debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Wed Apr 27 13:26:45 2016 Received: (at control) by debbugs.gnu.org; 27 Apr 2016 17:26:46 +0000 Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:50393 helo=debbugs.gnu.org) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1avTEb-0004al-QE for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Wed, 27 Apr 2016 13:26:45 -0400 Received: from hermes.netfonds.no ([80.91.224.195]:46692) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1avTEb-0004af-9z for control@debbugs.gnu.org; Wed, 27 Apr 2016 13:26:45 -0400 Received: from cm-84.215.1.64.getinternet.no ([84.215.1.64] helo=mouse) by hermes.netfonds.no with esmtpsa (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_128_GCM_SHA256:128) (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1avTEZ-0000NM-5Z for control@debbugs.gnu.org; Wed, 27 Apr 2016 19:26:44 +0200 Date: Wed, 27 Apr 2016 19:26:43 +0200 Message-Id: <87a8kfgdyk.fsf@gnus.org> To: control@debbugs.gnu.org From: Lars Ingebrigtsen Subject: control message for bug #2270 X-Spam-Score: 0.0 (/) X-Debbugs-Envelope-To: control X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18 Precedence: list List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Sender: "Debbugs-submit" X-Spam-Score: 0.0 (/) tags 2270 fixed close 2270 25.2 From unknown Mon Jun 23 23:54:34 2025 X-Loop: help-debbugs@gnu.org Subject: bug#2270: [PATCH] bug#2270, RE: 23.0.90; find-library:... (2) other-window version Resent-From: Drew Adams Original-Sender: "Debbugs-submit" Resent-CC: bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org Resent-Date: Wed, 27 Apr 2016 17:35:01 +0000 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-Sender: help-debbugs@gnu.org X-GNU-PR-Message: followup 2270 X-GNU-PR-Package: emacs X-GNU-PR-Keywords: fixed To: Lars Ingebrigtsen Cc: 2270@emacsbugs.donarmstrong.com, Chong Yidong , Stefan Monnier , 2270@debbugs.gnu.org Received: via spool by 2270-submit@debbugs.gnu.org id=B2270.146177845724712 (code B ref 2270); Wed, 27 Apr 2016 17:35:01 +0000 Received: (at 2270) by debbugs.gnu.org; 27 Apr 2016 17:34:17 +0000 Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:50402 helo=debbugs.gnu.org) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1avTLt-0006QV-Gm for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Wed, 27 Apr 2016 13:34:17 -0400 Received: from aserp1040.oracle.com ([141.146.126.69]:20562) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1avTLs-0006QE-Jg; Wed, 27 Apr 2016 13:34:16 -0400 Received: from userv0021.oracle.com (userv0021.oracle.com [156.151.31.71]) by aserp1040.oracle.com (Sentrion-MTA-4.3.2/Sentrion-MTA-4.3.2) with ESMTP id u3RHY8Vu004845 (version=TLSv1 cipher=DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA bits=256 verify=OK); Wed, 27 Apr 2016 17:34:09 GMT Received: from userv0121.oracle.com (userv0121.oracle.com [156.151.31.72]) by userv0021.oracle.com (8.13.8/8.13.8) with ESMTP id u3RHY74g029358 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA bits=256 verify=OK); Wed, 27 Apr 2016 17:34:07 GMT Received: from abhmp0005.oracle.com (abhmp0005.oracle.com [141.146.116.11]) by userv0121.oracle.com (8.13.8/8.13.8) with ESMTP id u3RHY5Ko017473; Wed, 27 Apr 2016 17:34:07 GMT MIME-Version: 1.0 Message-ID: <489d9709-08dc-45d6-99c3-ed8faf7e9714@default> Date: Wed, 27 Apr 2016 10:34:03 -0700 (PDT) From: Drew Adams References: <871vu5d7y9.fsf@cyd.mit.edu> <07346487C61E40D891C856C44C06986E@us.oracle.com> <06691A5A9E1B4BC7BC157ADFE73B5A24@us.oracle.com> <87bn4vgdz8.fsf@gnus.org> In-Reply-To: <87bn4vgdz8.fsf@gnus.org> X-Priority: 3 X-Mailer: Oracle Beehive Extensions for Outlook 2.0.1.9 (901082) [OL 12.0.6744.5000 (x86)] Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-Source-IP: userv0021.oracle.com [156.151.31.71] X-Spam-Score: 0.7 (/) X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18 Precedence: list List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Sender: "Debbugs-submit" X-Spam-Score: 0.7 (/) > I've now added a prefix argument to pop to a different window. I've > also cleaned up the switch-to-buffer error handling code, which I think > isn't necessary any more after Martin's window fixes... 1. I would still prefer to have the other-window version bound to `C-x 4 l'. 2. I think that the other-window version is far more useful than the same-window version. So if other-window behavior is available only via a prefix arg I'd prefer that it be the other way around: a prefix arg uses the same window; no prefix arg uses another window. (Yes, that would be a change in the default behavior.) (Anyway, thanks for adding the other-window behavior.) From unknown Mon Jun 23 23:54:34 2025 X-Loop: help-debbugs@gnu.org Subject: bug#2270: [PATCH] bug#2270, RE: 23.0.90; find-library:... (2) other-window version Resent-From: Lars Ingebrigtsen Original-Sender: "Debbugs-submit" Resent-CC: bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org Resent-Date: Wed, 27 Apr 2016 17:39:01 +0000 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-Sender: help-debbugs@gnu.org X-GNU-PR-Message: followup 2270 X-GNU-PR-Package: emacs X-GNU-PR-Keywords: fixed To: Drew Adams Cc: 2270@emacsbugs.donarmstrong.com, Chong Yidong , Stefan Monnier , 2270@debbugs.gnu.org Received: via spool by 2270-submit@debbugs.gnu.org id=B2270.146177868925100 (code B ref 2270); Wed, 27 Apr 2016 17:39:01 +0000 Received: (at 2270) by debbugs.gnu.org; 27 Apr 2016 17:38:09 +0000 Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:50414 helo=debbugs.gnu.org) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1avTPd-0006Wl-Ep for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Wed, 27 Apr 2016 13:38:09 -0400 Received: from hermes.netfonds.no ([80.91.224.195]:46900) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1avTPc-0006Wb-7B; Wed, 27 Apr 2016 13:38:08 -0400 Received: from cm-84.215.1.64.getinternet.no ([84.215.1.64] helo=mouse) by hermes.netfonds.no with esmtpsa (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_128_GCM_SHA256:128) (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1avTPW-0000Wp-9W; Wed, 27 Apr 2016 19:38:07 +0200 From: Lars Ingebrigtsen References: <871vu5d7y9.fsf@cyd.mit.edu> <07346487C61E40D891C856C44C06986E@us.oracle.com> <06691A5A9E1B4BC7BC157ADFE73B5A24@us.oracle.com> <87bn4vgdz8.fsf@gnus.org> <489d9709-08dc-45d6-99c3-ed8faf7e9714@default> Date: Wed, 27 Apr 2016 19:38:02 +0200 In-Reply-To: <489d9709-08dc-45d6-99c3-ed8faf7e9714@default> (Drew Adams's message of "Wed, 27 Apr 2016 10:34:03 -0700 (PDT)") Message-ID: <871t5rgdfp.fsf@gnus.org> User-Agent: Gnus/5.13 (Gnus v5.13) Emacs/25.1.50 (gnu/linux) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain X-Spam-Score: 4.0 (++++) X-Spam-Report: Spam detection software, running on the system "debbugs.gnu.org", has NOT identified this incoming email as spam. The original message has been attached to this so you can view it or label similar future email. If you have any questions, see the administrator of that system for details. Content preview: Drew Adams writes: >> I've now added a prefix argument to pop to a different window. I've >> also cleaned up the switch-to-buffer error handling code, which I think >> isn't necessary any more after Martin's window fixes... > > 1. I would still prefer to have the other-window version bound to > `C-x 4 l'. 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Content preview: Drew Adams writes: >> I've now added a prefix argument to pop to a different window. I've >> also cleaned up the switch-to-buffer error handling code, which I think >> isn't necessary any more after Martin's window fixes... > > 1. I would still prefer to have the other-window version bound to > `C-x 4 l'. [...] Content analysis details: (4.0 points, 10.0 required) pts rule name description ---- ---------------------- -------------------------------------------------- -0.0 RCVD_IN_DNSWL_NONE RBL: Sender listed at http://www.dnswl.org/, no trust [80.91.224.195 listed in list.dnswl.org] 4.0 EMACSBUGS_TO Sent to the old emacsbugs server Drew Adams writes: >> I've now added a prefix argument to pop to a different window. I've >> also cleaned up the switch-to-buffer error handling code, which I think >> isn't necessary any more after Martin's window fixes... > > 1. I would still prefer to have the other-window version bound to > `C-x 4 l'. `find-library' isn't bound to any key, but I think it probably should be. `C-x 4 l' seems like as good a keystroke as any. Any thought from other people? I use the command quite a lot... > 2. I think that the other-window version is far more useful than > the same-window version. So if other-window behavior is available > only via a prefix arg I'd prefer that it be the other way around: > a prefix arg uses the same window; no prefix arg uses another > window. (Yes, that would be a change in the default behavior.) The command now uses pop-to-buffer-same-window, which is quite customisable, as I understand things. (I haven't looked into the new-fangled window popping controlling functions.) So I think this should be customisable ... somehow ... by the users now. -- (domestic pets only, the antidote for overdose, milk.) bloggy blog: http://lars.ingebrigtsen.no From unknown Mon Jun 23 23:54:34 2025 X-Loop: help-debbugs@gnu.org Subject: bug#2270: [PATCH] bug#2270, RE: 23.0.90; find-library:... 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The original message has been attached to this so you can view it or label similar future email. If you have any questions, see the administrator of that system for details. Content preview: On 04/27/2016 08:38 PM, Lars Ingebrigtsen wrote: > `find-library' isn't bound to any key, but I think it probably should > be. `C-x 4 l' seems like as good a keystroke as any. Any thought from > other people? I use the command quite a lot... 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The original message has been attached to this so you can view it or label similar future email. If you have any questions, see the administrator of that system for details. Content preview: On 04/27/2016 08:38 PM, Lars Ingebrigtsen wrote: > `find-library' isn't bound to any key, but I think it probably should > be. `C-x 4 l' seems like as good a keystroke as any. Any thought from > other people? I use the command quite a lot... 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Any thought from > other people? I use the command quite a lot... I think the "other window" version should simply be a separate command, like find-function-other-window, xref-find-definitions-other-window, etc. Having a default binding for it would be a bit odd, considering find-library doesn't have one. >> 2. I think that the other-window version is far more useful than >> the same-window version. So if other-window behavior is available >> only via a prefix arg I'd prefer that it be the other way around: >> a prefix arg uses the same window; no prefix arg uses another >> window. (Yes, that would be a change in the default behavior.) -1 from me. > The command now uses pop-to-buffer-same-window, which is quite > customisable, as I understand things. (I haven't looked into the > new-fangled window popping controlling functions.) So I think this > should be customisable ... somehow ... by the users now. It's... not as easy as one might hope. And if you customize `find-library' to use the other window this way, there will be no way to have it use the current window just this one time. And vice versa. From unknown Mon Jun 23 23:54:34 2025 X-Loop: help-debbugs@gnu.org Subject: bug#2270: [PATCH] bug#2270, RE: 23.0.90; find-library:... (2) other-window version Resent-From: Lars Ingebrigtsen Original-Sender: "Debbugs-submit" Resent-CC: bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org Resent-Date: Wed, 27 Apr 2016 17:57:02 +0000 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-Sender: help-debbugs@gnu.org X-GNU-PR-Message: followup 2270 X-GNU-PR-Package: emacs X-GNU-PR-Keywords: fixed To: Dmitry Gutov Cc: 2270@emacsbugs.donarmstrong.com, Chong Yidong , Stefan Monnier , Drew Adams , 2270@debbugs.gnu.org Received: via spool by 2270-submit@debbugs.gnu.org id=B2270.146177980327559 (code B ref 2270); Wed, 27 Apr 2016 17:57:02 +0000 Received: (at 2270) by debbugs.gnu.org; 27 Apr 2016 17:56:43 +0000 Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:50458 helo=debbugs.gnu.org) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1avTha-0007AP-SW for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Wed, 27 Apr 2016 13:56:43 -0400 Received: from hermes.netfonds.no ([80.91.224.195]:47180) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1avThY-0007AC-Tq; Wed, 27 Apr 2016 13:56:41 -0400 Received: from cm-84.215.1.64.getinternet.no ([84.215.1.64] helo=mouse) by hermes.netfonds.no with esmtpsa (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_128_GCM_SHA256:128) (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1avThV-0000nR-Sl; Wed, 27 Apr 2016 19:56:40 +0200 From: Lars Ingebrigtsen References: <871vu5d7y9.fsf@cyd.mit.edu> <07346487C61E40D891C856C44C06986E@us.oracle.com> <06691A5A9E1B4BC7BC157ADFE73B5A24@us.oracle.com> <87bn4vgdz8.fsf@gnus.org> <489d9709-08dc-45d6-99c3-ed8faf7e9714@default> <871t5rgdfp.fsf@gnus.org> <636c5081-9c37-5eb4-ca6b-d44c654bd0e2@yandex.ru> Date: Wed, 27 Apr 2016 19:56:37 +0200 In-Reply-To: <636c5081-9c37-5eb4-ca6b-d44c654bd0e2@yandex.ru> (Dmitry Gutov's message of "Wed, 27 Apr 2016 20:43:15 +0300") Message-ID: <87k2jjey0a.fsf@gnus.org> User-Agent: Gnus/5.13 (Gnus v5.13) Emacs/25.1.50 (gnu/linux) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain X-Spam-Score: 4.0 (++++) X-Spam-Report: Spam detection software, running on the system "debbugs.gnu.org", has NOT identified this incoming email as spam. The original message has been attached to this so you can view it or label similar future email. If you have any questions, see the administrator of that system for details. Content preview: Dmitry Gutov writes: > I think the "other window" version should simply be a separate > command, like find-function-other-window, > xref-find-definitions-other-window, etc. Oh, I had gotten the impression that we're moving away from that? I though that was part of the reason for those... popping customisation thingies that I haven't paid all that much attention to. :-) [...] Content analysis details: (4.0 points, 10.0 required) pts rule name description ---- ---------------------- -------------------------------------------------- -0.0 RCVD_IN_DNSWL_NONE RBL: Sender listed at http://www.dnswl.org/, no trust [80.91.224.195 listed in list.dnswl.org] 4.0 EMACSBUGS_TO Sent to the old emacsbugs server X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18 Precedence: list List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Sender: "Debbugs-submit" X-Spam-Score: 4.0 (++++) X-Spam-Report: Spam detection software, running on the system "debbugs.gnu.org", has NOT identified this incoming email as spam. The original message has been attached to this so you can view it or label similar future email. If you have any questions, see the administrator of that system for details. Content preview: Dmitry Gutov writes: > I think the "other window" version should simply be a separate > command, like find-function-other-window, > xref-find-definitions-other-window, etc. Oh, I had gotten the impression that we're moving away from that? I though that was part of the reason for those... popping customisation thingies that I haven't paid all that much attention to. :-) [...] Content analysis details: (4.0 points, 10.0 required) pts rule name description ---- ---------------------- -------------------------------------------------- -0.0 RCVD_IN_DNSWL_NONE RBL: Sender listed at http://www.dnswl.org/, no trust [80.91.224.195 listed in list.dnswl.org] 4.0 EMACSBUGS_TO Sent to the old emacsbugs server Dmitry Gutov writes: > I think the "other window" version should simply be a separate > command, like find-function-other-window, > xref-find-definitions-other-window, etc. Oh, I had gotten the impression that we're moving away from that? I though that was part of the reason for those... popping customisation thingies that I haven't paid all that much attention to. :-) I can add an -other-window version -- it would just call the current version with the new optional parameter... -- (domestic pets only, the antidote for overdose, milk.) bloggy blog: http://lars.ingebrigtsen.no From unknown Mon Jun 23 23:54:34 2025 X-Loop: help-debbugs@gnu.org Subject: bug#2270: [PATCH] bug#2270, RE: 23.0.90; find-library:... (2) other-window version Resent-From: Stefan Monnier Original-Sender: "Debbugs-submit" Resent-CC: bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org Resent-Date: Wed, 27 Apr 2016 18:47:01 +0000 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-Sender: help-debbugs@gnu.org X-GNU-PR-Message: followup 2270 X-GNU-PR-Package: emacs X-GNU-PR-Keywords: fixed To: Drew Adams Cc: Lars Ingebrigtsen , 2270@debbugs.gnu.org Received: via spool by 2270-submit@debbugs.gnu.org id=B2270.146178280311345 (code B ref 2270); Wed, 27 Apr 2016 18:47:01 +0000 Received: (at 2270) by debbugs.gnu.org; 27 Apr 2016 18:46:43 +0000 Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:50528 helo=debbugs.gnu.org) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1avUTz-0002wd-3h for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Wed, 27 Apr 2016 14:46:43 -0400 Received: from ironport2-out.teksavvy.com ([206.248.154.181]:37283) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1avUTx-0002r4-Ec for 2270@debbugs.gnu.org; Wed, 27 Apr 2016 14:46:42 -0400 X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Filtered: true X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Result: A0A7FgA731xV/0uLxEVcgxCEAoVVqx+XbAQCAoE8PBEBAQEBAQEBgQpBBYNcAQEBAQIBViMFCws0EhQYDSSINwjPIwEBAQEGAQEBAR6LOoUFB4QtBbM/gUUjYYFagVkigngBAQE X-IPAS-Result: A0A7FgA731xV/0uLxEVcgxCEAoVVqx+XbAQCAoE8PBEBAQEBAQEBgQpBBYNcAQEBAQIBViMFCws0EhQYDSSINwjPIwEBAQEGAQEBAR6LOoUFB4QtBbM/gUUjYYFagVkigngBAQE X-IronPort-AV: E=Sophos;i="5.13,465,1427774400"; d="scan'208";a="218467203" Received: from 69-196-139-75.dsl.teksavvy.com (HELO pastel.home) ([69.196.139.75]) by ironport2-out.teksavvy.com with ESMTP; 27 Apr 2016 14:46:34 -0400 Received: by pastel.home (Postfix, from userid 20848) id 06E61644CC; Wed, 27 Apr 2016 14:46:34 -0400 (EDT) From: Stefan Monnier Message-ID: References: <871vu5d7y9.fsf@cyd.mit.edu> <07346487C61E40D891C856C44C06986E@us.oracle.com> <06691A5A9E1B4BC7BC157ADFE73B5A24@us.oracle.com> <87bn4vgdz8.fsf@gnus.org> <489d9709-08dc-45d6-99c3-ed8faf7e9714@default> Date: Wed, 27 Apr 2016 14:46:33 -0400 In-Reply-To: <489d9709-08dc-45d6-99c3-ed8faf7e9714@default> (Drew Adams's message of "Wed, 27 Apr 2016 10:34:03 -0700 (PDT)") User-Agent: Gnus/5.13 (Gnus v5.13) Emacs/25.1.50 (gnu/linux) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain X-Spam-Score: 0.3 (/) X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18 Precedence: list List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Sender: "Debbugs-submit" X-Spam-Score: 0.3 (/) > 1. I would still prefer to have the other-window version bound to > `C-x 4 l'. Actually, using the `other-frame-window' package from GNU ELPA, you could have exactly that without any extra code. > 2. I think that the other-window version is far more useful than > the same-window version. So if other-window behavior is available > only via a prefix arg I'd prefer that it be the other way around: > a prefix arg uses the same window; no prefix arg uses another > window. (Yes, that would be a change in the default behavior.) Indeed, the `other-frame-window' also needs to be expanded to provide a new prefix which means "use same frame" or "use same window". Stefan From unknown Mon Jun 23 23:54:34 2025 X-Loop: help-debbugs@gnu.org Subject: bug#2270: [PATCH] bug#2270, RE: 23.0.90; find-library:... 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