From unknown Mon Jun 23 13:09:17 2025 Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: MIME-tools 5.509 (Entity 5.509) Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 From: bug#22625 <22625@debbugs.gnu.org> To: bug#22625 <22625@debbugs.gnu.org> Subject: Status: 24.5; Please add index entry for `~ filename suffix' to manual for node `Backup Names' Reply-To: bug#22625 <22625@debbugs.gnu.org> Date: Mon, 23 Jun 2025 20:09:17 +0000 retitle 22625 24.5; Please add index entry for `~ filename suffix' to manua= l for node `Backup Names' reassign 22625 emacs submitter 22625 Drew Adams severity 22625 wishlist thanks From debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Wed Feb 10 18:04:42 2016 Received: (at submit) by debbugs.gnu.org; 10 Feb 2016 23:04:42 +0000 Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:35476 helo=debbugs.gnu.org) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84) (envelope-from ) id 1aTdoQ-0006Wn-Ed for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Wed, 10 Feb 2016 18:04:42 -0500 Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([208.118.235.92]:55409) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84) (envelope-from ) id 1aTdoP-0006Wa-Br for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Wed, 10 Feb 2016 18:04:41 -0500 Received: from Debian-exim by eggs.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1aTdoJ-0007UM-9o for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Wed, 10 Feb 2016 18:04:36 -0500 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.3.2 (2011-06-06) on eggs.gnu.org X-Spam-Level: **** X-Spam-Status: No, score=4.3 required=5.0 tests=BAYES_50,XPRIO autolearn=disabled version=3.3.2 Received: from lists.gnu.org ([2001:4830:134:3::11]:37696) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1aTdoJ-0007UI-6X for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Wed, 10 Feb 2016 18:04:35 -0500 Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([2001:4830:134:3::10]:46380) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1aTdoI-0007EW-8F for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Wed, 10 Feb 2016 18:04:35 -0500 Received: from Debian-exim by eggs.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1aTdoF-0007To-2g for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Wed, 10 Feb 2016 18:04:34 -0500 Received: from userp1040.oracle.com ([156.151.31.81]:48392) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1aTdoE-0007TV-P0 for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Wed, 10 Feb 2016 18:04:30 -0500 Received: from userv0021.oracle.com (userv0021.oracle.com [156.151.31.71]) by userp1040.oracle.com (Sentrion-MTA-4.3.2/Sentrion-MTA-4.3.2) with ESMTP id u1AN4TNn028905 (version=TLSv1 cipher=DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA bits=256 verify=OK) for ; Wed, 10 Feb 2016 23:04:30 GMT Received: from aserv0121.oracle.com (aserv0121.oracle.com [141.146.126.235]) by userv0021.oracle.com (8.13.8/8.13.8) with ESMTP id u1AN4ToC026350 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA bits=256 verify=FAIL) for ; Wed, 10 Feb 2016 23:04:29 GMT Received: from abhmp0007.oracle.com (abhmp0007.oracle.com [141.146.116.13]) by aserv0121.oracle.com (8.13.8/8.13.8) with ESMTP id u1AN4TET029850 for ; Wed, 10 Feb 2016 23:04:29 GMT MIME-Version: 1.0 Message-ID: <86d0f742-1666-4da5-9192-eb505dd493f3@default> Date: Wed, 10 Feb 2016 15:04:27 -0800 (PST) From: Drew Adams To: bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org Subject: 24.5; Please add index entry for `~ filename suffix' to manual for node `Backup Names' X-Priority: 3 X-Mailer: Oracle Beehive Extensions for Outlook 2.0.1.9 (901082) [OL 12.0.6691.5000 (x86)] Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-Source-IP: userv0021.oracle.com [156.151.31.71] X-detected-operating-system: by eggs.gnu.org: GNU/Linux 2.4.x-2.6.x [generic] X-detected-operating-system: by eggs.gnu.org: GNU/Linux 2.6.x X-Received-From: 2001:4830:134:3::11 X-Spam-Score: -0.5 (/) X-Debbugs-Envelope-To: submit X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18 Precedence: list List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Sender: "Debbugs-submit" X-Spam-Score: -4.0 (----) Subject line says it all. See http://emacs.stackexchange.com/q/20216/105. It's a reasonable question. A user sees files with `~' at the end of the name, and wonders what they are. How to find info about that in the manual? In GNU Emacs 24.5.1 (i686-pc-mingw32) of 2015-04-11 on LEG570 Windowing system distributor `Microsoft Corp.', version 6.1.7601 Configured using: `configure --prefix=3D/c/usr --host=3Di686-pc-mingw32' From debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Sat Feb 13 08:39:54 2016 Received: (at 22625-done) by debbugs.gnu.org; 13 Feb 2016 13:39:54 +0000 Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:38511 helo=debbugs.gnu.org) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84) (envelope-from ) id 1aUaQU-0001sv-Io for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Sat, 13 Feb 2016 08:39:54 -0500 Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([208.118.235.92]:59800) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84) (envelope-from ) id 1aUaQS-0001sc-T2 for 22625-done@debbugs.gnu.org; Sat, 13 Feb 2016 08:39:53 -0500 Received: from Debian-exim by eggs.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1aUaQK-0005dX-JP for 22625-done@debbugs.gnu.org; Sat, 13 Feb 2016 08:39:47 -0500 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.3.2 (2011-06-06) on eggs.gnu.org X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-1.9 required=5.0 tests=BAYES_00,RP_MATCHES_RCVD autolearn=disabled version=3.3.2 Received: from fencepost.gnu.org ([2001:4830:134:3::e]:54916) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1aUaQK-0005dT-Fu; Sat, 13 Feb 2016 08:39:44 -0500 Received: from 84.94.185.246.cable.012.net.il ([84.94.185.246]:4750 helo=home-c4e4a596f7) by fencepost.gnu.org with esmtpsa (TLS1.2:RSA_AES_128_CBC_SHA1:128) (Exim 4.82) (envelope-from ) id 1aUaQJ-0000Cj-QS; Sat, 13 Feb 2016 08:39:44 -0500 Date: Sat, 13 Feb 2016 15:39:44 +0200 Message-Id: <83r3gg6867.fsf@gnu.org> From: Eli Zaretskii To: Drew Adams In-reply-to: <86d0f742-1666-4da5-9192-eb505dd493f3@default> (message from Drew Adams on Wed, 10 Feb 2016 15:04:27 -0800 (PST)) Subject: Re: bug#22625: 24.5; Please add index entry for `~ filename suffix' to manual for node `Backup Names' References: <86d0f742-1666-4da5-9192-eb505dd493f3@default> X-detected-operating-system: by eggs.gnu.org: GNU/Linux 2.2.x-3.x [generic] X-Received-From: 2001:4830:134:3::e X-Spam-Score: -5.0 (-----) X-Debbugs-Envelope-To: 22625-done Cc: 22625-done@debbugs.gnu.org X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18 Precedence: list List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Reply-To: Eli Zaretskii Errors-To: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Sender: "Debbugs-submit" X-Spam-Score: -5.0 (-----) > Date: Wed, 10 Feb 2016 15:04:27 -0800 (PST) > From: Drew Adams > > See http://emacs.stackexchange.com/q/20216/105. > > It's a reasonable question. A user sees files with `~' at the end of > the name, and wonders what they are. How to find info about that in the > manual? I added index entries, but I really doubt this will help discoverability: there are 12 index entries in the manual that include "~", and the new one I added is the 5th hit... From debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Sat Feb 13 10:25:42 2016 Received: (at 22625) by debbugs.gnu.org; 13 Feb 2016 15:25:43 +0000 Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:39478 helo=debbugs.gnu.org) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84) (envelope-from ) id 1aUc4s-000556-Nm for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Sat, 13 Feb 2016 10:25:42 -0500 Received: from mail-ob0-f171.google.com ([209.85.214.171]:36526) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84) (envelope-from ) id 1aUc4r-00054u-F7 for 22625@debbugs.gnu.org; Sat, 13 Feb 2016 10:25:41 -0500 Received: by mail-ob0-f171.google.com with SMTP id gc3so59272689obb.3 for <22625@debbugs.gnu.org>; Sat, 13 Feb 2016 07:25:41 -0800 (PST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20120113; h=mime-version:from:date:message-id:subject:to:content-type; bh=GZ/xJi2BJukWp/Ftk+8anZmknNaT+oqB2iXJ2+s0aBw=; b=TANmH1PSeLLJVu+rKiDtOV2AuBW9UoyO5ng50b0pNkSBmkPI6CAX2gDK3g9G+yca24 GkCTDi5WUjXRYJrxbyL2wTocm8wkp24TZYV0jr36/ZYkaY9QEw8wRZg0izMS3Z9XTGsJ rDeJL2Nt8Qo1Vd3MdqLlbzdN4+C+FoSFDwrAsI6s7Z/qBkt/gKzH9JuD0B0Fws4Nsdku 5DTtVqEBeeZp5pN5IQDq7WgQH19PD9VpD0scKTneoF/IorwXdCvA8ZxvVPTlBumlWK4N SRugT+Ip2eKam0DfCY8b/tzGnuBHFy8OEzH0n3HkbiGBqMxhTVY+CXtZByjQ1P3Uk9Om R42g== X-Google-DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=1e100.net; s=20130820; h=x-gm-message-state:mime-version:from:date:message-id:subject:to :content-type; bh=GZ/xJi2BJukWp/Ftk+8anZmknNaT+oqB2iXJ2+s0aBw=; b=Y+O02qd0so+TnyCRXfMSugfswovisnEqQ3yAHT5fPqQQD1QQwCl4GYppWLtUcNfW3h BLrekmKP4Ep4s7PH0sDFgb1CFEyJ7DMBlvTOOw7asccyBikt4chwu21OciOPyv9YzkCl Z8GUjn+vbwFcwYMPRkq57gtKQFsYxQ6EVY+S2/Ve3HBOBW5IsAIbMpY/AD055GPMMayf CVzHtO0pBD/GPXP3wVBBTs1vid7vErTwbC3iY0hAjU7iwsIEECsXJZ0eC5mKs7fSQ2Ap q8k8Bn4UFrAHje6366hnVj4esHhYpPSXrJ0BbrsdyUEdABxYAh/VnYHGUKigGeRGQXwU kZ5A== X-Gm-Message-State: AG10YOSjYGpSOCxKnUZvDVz+5U5d5e88KP7XhcL29MRUCT1ilC4Me5Wp7mSdCxEGzWpRaglBYv8U1lWUzmU45Q== X-Received: by 10.202.185.214 with SMTP id j205mr5769789oif.68.1455377135898; Sat, 13 Feb 2016 07:25:35 -0800 (PST) MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.202.201.73 with HTTP; Sat, 13 Feb 2016 07:24:56 -0800 (PST) From: Kaushal Modi Date: Sat, 13 Feb 2016 10:24:56 -0500 Message-ID: Subject: 24.5; Please add index entry for `~ filename suffix' to manual for node `Backup Names' To: 22625@debbugs.gnu.org Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=001a113cd1fa331837052ba865b4 X-Spam-Score: -0.7 (/) X-Debbugs-Envelope-To: 22625 X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18 Precedence: list List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Sender: "Debbugs-submit" X-Spam-Score: -0.7 (/) --001a113cd1fa331837052ba865b4 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable I am not sure I understood the request. On emacs built from emacs-25 branch (could not verify the same on 24.5), by doing, C-h i g (emacs) Backup Names I get a very good explanation of how the backup files are named. =3D=3D=3D=3D=3D When Emacs makes a backup file, its name is normally constructed by appending =E2=80=98~=E2=80=99 to the file name being edited; thus, the back= up file for =E2=80=98eval.c=E2=80=99 would be =E2=80=98eval.c~=E2=80=99. If access control stops Emacs from writing backup files under the usual names, it writes the backup file as =E2=80=98~/.emacs.d/%backup%~=E2= =80=99. Only one such file can exist, so only the most recently made such backup is available. Emacs can also make "numbered backup files". Numbered backup file names contain =E2=80=98.~=E2=80=99, the number, and another =E2=80=98~=E2= =80=99 after the original file name. Thus, the backup files of =E2=80=98eval.c=E2=80=99 would be called = =E2=80=98eval.c.~1~=E2=80=99, =E2=80=98eval.c.~2~=E2=80=99, and so on, all the way through names like =E2= =80=98eval.c.~259~=E2=80=99 and beyond. [snip] =3D=3D=3D=3D=3D Should this bug be closed? -- Kaushal Modi --001a113cd1fa331837052ba865b4 Content-Type: text/html; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
I am not sure I understood the request.
On emacs built from emacs-25 branch (could not verify the same = on 24.5), by doing,

C-h i g (emacs) Backup Names

I get a very g= ood explanation of how the backup files are named.

=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D

When Emacs makes a backup fi= le, its name is normally constructed by
appending =E2=80=98~=E2= =80=99 to the file name being edited; thus, the backup file for
= =E2=80=98eval.c=E2=80=99 would be =E2=80=98eval.c~=E2=80=99.

=
=C2=A0 =C2=A0If access control stops Emacs from writing backup f= iles under the
usual names, it writes the backup file as =E2=80= =98~/.emacs.d/%backup%~=E2=80=99.=C2=A0 Only
one such file can ex= ist, so only the most recently made such backup is
available.

=C2=A0 =C2=A0Emacs can also make "numbered backu= p files".=C2=A0 Numbered backup file
names contain =E2=80=98= .~=E2=80=99, the number, and another =E2=80=98~=E2=80=99 after the original= file
name.=C2=A0 Thus, the backup files of =E2=80=98eval.c=E2=80= =99 would be called =E2=80=98eval.c.~1~=E2=80=99,
=E2=80=98eval.c= .~2~=E2=80=99, and so on, all the way through names like =E2=80=98eval.c.~2= 59~=E2=80=99
and beyond.

[snip]
=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D

Should this bug be closed?
=

--
K= aushal Modi
--001a113cd1fa331837052ba865b4-- From debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Sat Feb 13 10:37:48 2016 Received: (at 22625) by debbugs.gnu.org; 13 Feb 2016 15:37:48 +0000 Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:39482 helo=debbugs.gnu.org) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84) (envelope-from ) id 1aUcGZ-0005PW-Rx for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Sat, 13 Feb 2016 10:37:48 -0500 Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([208.118.235.92]:56677) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84) (envelope-from ) id 1aUcGY-0005PJ-HB for 22625@debbugs.gnu.org; Sat, 13 Feb 2016 10:37:46 -0500 Received: from Debian-exim by eggs.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1aUcGO-0001A4-84 for 22625@debbugs.gnu.org; Sat, 13 Feb 2016 10:37:41 -0500 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.3.2 (2011-06-06) on eggs.gnu.org X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-0.5 required=5.0 tests=BAYES_05,RP_MATCHES_RCVD autolearn=disabled version=3.3.2 Received: from fencepost.gnu.org ([2001:4830:134:3::e]:56325) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1aUcGO-00019z-4Q; Sat, 13 Feb 2016 10:37:36 -0500 Received: from 84.94.185.246.cable.012.net.il ([84.94.185.246]:4995 helo=home-c4e4a596f7) by fencepost.gnu.org with esmtpsa (TLS1.2:RSA_AES_128_CBC_SHA1:128) (Exim 4.82) (envelope-from ) id 1aUcGN-0006jV-GB; Sat, 13 Feb 2016 10:37:35 -0500 Date: Sat, 13 Feb 2016 17:37:36 +0200 Message-Id: <83k2m862pr.fsf@gnu.org> From: Eli Zaretskii To: Kaushal Modi In-reply-to: (message from Kaushal Modi on Sat, 13 Feb 2016 10:24:56 -0500) Subject: Re: bug#22625: 24.5; Please add index entry for `~ filename suffix' to manual for node `Backup Names' References: <86d0f742-1666-4da5-9192-eb505dd493f3@default> X-detected-operating-system: by eggs.gnu.org: GNU/Linux 2.2.x-3.x [generic] X-Received-From: 2001:4830:134:3::e X-Spam-Score: -5.0 (-----) X-Debbugs-Envelope-To: 22625 Cc: 22625@debbugs.gnu.org X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18 Precedence: list List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Reply-To: Eli Zaretskii Errors-To: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Sender: "Debbugs-submit" X-Spam-Score: -5.0 (-----) > From: Kaushal Modi > Date: Sat, 13 Feb 2016 10:24:56 -0500 > > I am not sure I understood the request. > > On emacs built from emacs-25 branch (could not verify the same on 24.5), by doing, > > C-h i g (emacs) Backup Names > > I get a very good explanation of how the backup files are named. Drew didn't say the text was insufficient, he asked for index entries. IOW, how do you find quickly what a tilde at the end of a file name means? From debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Sat Feb 13 10:57:06 2016 Received: (at 22625) by debbugs.gnu.org; 13 Feb 2016 15:57:06 +0000 Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:39490 helo=debbugs.gnu.org) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84) (envelope-from ) id 1aUcZG-0005yp-L3 for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Sat, 13 Feb 2016 10:57:06 -0500 Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([208.118.235.92]:33880) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84) (envelope-from ) id 1aUcZF-0005yM-4F for 22625@debbugs.gnu.org; Sat, 13 Feb 2016 10:57:05 -0500 Received: from Debian-exim by eggs.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1aUcZ6-0006vC-6J for 22625@debbugs.gnu.org; Sat, 13 Feb 2016 10:57:00 -0500 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.3.2 (2011-06-06) on eggs.gnu.org X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-1.9 required=5.0 tests=BAYES_00,RP_MATCHES_RCVD autolearn=disabled version=3.3.2 Received: from fencepost.gnu.org ([2001:4830:134:3::e]:56593) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1aUcZ6-0006v8-2Z; Sat, 13 Feb 2016 10:56:56 -0500 Received: from 84.94.185.246.cable.012.net.il ([84.94.185.246]:1112 helo=home-c4e4a596f7) by fencepost.gnu.org with esmtpsa (TLS1.2:RSA_AES_128_CBC_SHA1:128) (Exim 4.82) (envelope-from ) id 1aUcZ5-0000Qp-BN; Sat, 13 Feb 2016 10:56:55 -0500 Date: Sat, 13 Feb 2016 17:56:56 +0200 Message-Id: <83egcg61tj.fsf@gnu.org> From: Eli Zaretskii To: kaushal.modi@gmail.com In-reply-to: <83k2m862pr.fsf@gnu.org> (message from Eli Zaretskii on Sat, 13 Feb 2016 17:37:36 +0200) Subject: Re: bug#22625: 24.5; Please add index entry for `~ filename suffix' to manual for node `Backup Names' References: <86d0f742-1666-4da5-9192-eb505dd493f3@default> <83k2m862pr.fsf@gnu.org> X-detected-operating-system: by eggs.gnu.org: GNU/Linux 2.2.x-3.x [generic] X-Received-From: 2001:4830:134:3::e X-Spam-Score: -5.0 (-----) X-Debbugs-Envelope-To: 22625 Cc: 22625@debbugs.gnu.org X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18 Precedence: list List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Reply-To: Eli Zaretskii Errors-To: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Sender: "Debbugs-submit" X-Spam-Score: -5.0 (-----) > Date: Sat, 13 Feb 2016 17:37:36 +0200 > From: Eli Zaretskii > Cc: 22625@debbugs.gnu.org > > Drew didn't say the text was insufficient, he asked for index > entries. IOW, how do you find quickly what a tilde at the end of a > file name means? Oh, and I already closed the bug. From debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Sat Feb 13 13:15:52 2016 Received: (at 22625-done) by debbugs.gnu.org; 13 Feb 2016 18:15:52 +0000 Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:38275 helo=debbugs.gnu.org) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84) (envelope-from ) id 1aUejY-0000Yl-A3 for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Sat, 13 Feb 2016 13:15:52 -0500 Received: from aserp1050.oracle.com ([141.146.126.70]:20318) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84) (envelope-from ) id 1aUejW-0000YT-7H for 22625-done@debbugs.gnu.org; Sat, 13 Feb 2016 13:15:50 -0500 Received: from aserp1040.oracle.com (aserp1040.oracle.com [141.146.126.69]) by aserp1050.oracle.com (Sentrion-MTA-4.3.2/Sentrion-MTA-4.3.2) with ESMTP id u1DGwRiJ024911 (version=TLSv1.2 cipher=ECDHE-RSA-AES256-GCM-SHA384 bits=256 verify=OK) for <22625-done@debbugs.gnu.org>; Sat, 13 Feb 2016 16:58:32 GMT Received: from aserv0021.oracle.com (aserv0021.oracle.com [141.146.126.233]) by aserp1040.oracle.com (Sentrion-MTA-4.3.2/Sentrion-MTA-4.3.2) with ESMTP id u1DGwJ08008130 (version=TLSv1 cipher=DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA bits=256 verify=OK); Sat, 13 Feb 2016 16:58:20 GMT Received: from userv0121.oracle.com (userv0121.oracle.com [156.151.31.72]) by aserv0021.oracle.com (8.13.8/8.13.8) with ESMTP id u1DGwJON026539 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA bits=256 verify=FAIL); Sat, 13 Feb 2016 16:58:19 GMT Received: from abhmp0011.oracle.com (abhmp0011.oracle.com [141.146.116.17]) by userv0121.oracle.com (8.13.8/8.13.8) with ESMTP id u1DGwImi018535; Sat, 13 Feb 2016 16:58:18 GMT MIME-Version: 1.0 Message-ID: <6e05342a-019b-416b-b4be-6f7c1c4e91e7@default> Date: Sat, 13 Feb 2016 08:58:17 -0800 (PST) From: Drew Adams To: Eli Zaretskii Subject: RE: bug#22625: 24.5; Please add index entry for `~ filename suffix' to manual for node `Backup Names' References: <<86d0f742-1666-4da5-9192-eb505dd493f3@default>> <<83r3gg6867.fsf@gnu.org>> In-Reply-To: <<83r3gg6867.fsf@gnu.org>> X-Priority: 3 X-Mailer: Oracle Beehive Extensions for Outlook 2.0.1.9 (901082) [OL 12.0.6691.5000 (x86)] Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-Source-IP: aserp1040.oracle.com [141.146.126.69] X-Spam-Score: -2.3 (--) X-Debbugs-Envelope-To: 22625-done Cc: 22625-done@debbugs.gnu.org X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18 Precedence: list List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Sender: "Debbugs-submit" X-Spam-Score: -2.3 (--) > I added index entries, but I really doubt this will help > discoverability: there are 12 index entries in the manual that > include "~", and the new one I added is the 5th hit... Thanks, Eli. I think it will help, nevertheless. Without this it is really not easy to ask Emacs what those ~-suffixed files are. A user sees them and can wonder what they are. This will help. But I agree with you that when there are multiple index entries that match a prefix it is cumbersome to notice and get to one that you might want. That's a general problem. From unknown Mon Jun 23 13:09:17 2025 Received: (at fakecontrol) by fakecontrolmessage; To: internal_control@debbugs.gnu.org From: Debbugs Internal Request Subject: Internal Control Message-Id: bug archived. Date: Sun, 13 Mar 2016 11:24:03 +0000 User-Agent: Fakemail v42.6.9 # This is a fake control message. # # The action: # bug archived. thanks # This fakemail brought to you by your local debbugs # administrator