From unknown Sun Jun 22 03:57:43 2025 X-Loop: help-debbugs@gnu.org Subject: bug#22598: 'info guix' fails on guixSD Resent-From: myglc2 Original-Sender: "Debbugs-submit" Resent-CC: bug-guix@gnu.org Resent-Date: Mon, 08 Feb 2016 12:51:01 +0000 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-Sender: help-debbugs@gnu.org X-GNU-PR-Message: report 22598 X-GNU-PR-Package: guix X-GNU-PR-Keywords: To: 22598@debbugs.gnu.org X-Debbugs-Original-To: bug-guix@gnu.org Received: via spool by submit@debbugs.gnu.org id=B.1454935827941 (code B ref -1); Mon, 08 Feb 2016 12:51:01 +0000 Received: (at submit) by debbugs.gnu.org; 8 Feb 2016 12:50:27 +0000 Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:38085 helo=debbugs.gnu.org) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84) (envelope-from ) id 1aSlGt-0000F7-CO for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Mon, 08 Feb 2016 07:50:27 -0500 Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([208.118.235.92]:36646) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84) (envelope-from ) id 1aSlGr-0000Ev-Pd for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Mon, 08 Feb 2016 07:50:26 -0500 Received: from Debian-exim by eggs.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1aSlGm-00078A-0J for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Mon, 08 Feb 2016 07:50:20 -0500 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.3.2 (2011-06-06) on eggs.gnu.org X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=0.8 required=5.0 tests=BAYES_50,FREEMAIL_FROM, HK_RANDOM_ENVFROM autolearn=disabled version=3.3.2 Received: from lists.gnu.org ([2001:4830:134:3::11]:48836) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1aSlGl-000785-Tx for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Mon, 08 Feb 2016 07:50:19 -0500 Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([2001:4830:134:3::10]:55845) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1aSlGl-00061N-2E for bug-guix@gnu.org; Mon, 08 Feb 2016 07:50:19 -0500 Received: from Debian-exim by eggs.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1aSlGg-00076e-Uy for bug-guix@gnu.org; Mon, 08 Feb 2016 07:50:19 -0500 Received: from plane.gmane.org ([80.91.229.3]:32777) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1aSlGg-00076V-N9 for bug-guix@gnu.org; Mon, 08 Feb 2016 07:50:14 -0500 Received: from list by plane.gmane.org with local (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1aSlGf-0000fK-0R for bug-guix@gnu.org; Mon, 08 Feb 2016 13:50:13 +0100 Received: from c-73-167-118-254.hsd1.ma.comcast.net ([73.167.118.254]) by main.gmane.org with esmtp (Gmexim 0.1 (Debian)) id 1AlnuQ-0007hv-00 for ; Mon, 08 Feb 2016 13:50:12 +0100 Received: from myglc2 by c-73-167-118-254.hsd1.ma.comcast.net with local (Gmexim 0.1 (Debian)) id 1AlnuQ-0007hv-00 for ; Mon, 08 Feb 2016 13:50:12 +0100 X-Injected-Via-Gmane: http://gmane.org/ From: myglc2 Date: Mon, 08 Feb 2016 07:50:46 -0500 Lines: 40 Message-ID: <877fif8ixl.fsf@gmail.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain X-Complaints-To: usenet@ger.gmane.org X-Gmane-NNTP-Posting-Host: c-73-167-118-254.hsd1.ma.comcast.net User-Agent: Gnus/5.13 (Gnus v5.13) Emacs/24.5 (gnu/linux) Cancel-Lock: sha1:FJwEQZiqOu+XExiTzalbYhtYYqM= X-detected-operating-system: by eggs.gnu.org: Genre and OS details not recognized. X-detected-operating-system: by eggs.gnu.org: GNU/Linux 2.6.x X-Received-From: 2001:4830:134:3::11 X-Spam-Score: -3.5 (---) X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18 Precedence: list List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Sender: "Debbugs-submit" X-Spam-Score: -3.5 (---) 'man guix' is quite likely the first thing a new user types. The man page is a stub to 'info guix'... GUIX(1) [...] If the info and guix programs are properly installed at your site, the command info guix should give you access to the complete manual. However, on guixSD, 'info guix' produces 'bash: info: command not found'. While this result is technically understandable, it does seem rather user-unfriendly. Work arounds (tested on guixSD) are ... 1 guix environment guix info guix 2 tell the user that if info doesn't work, install it. But both of these seem like bad things to say on the first man page. >From a usability point of view, it would probably be best to include info in the global guixSD packages. SIDE THOUGHT: I love reading and using info in emacs. However, I will do almost anything to avoid having to use the actual info program. I expect many potential guix users are the same, or, more likely, have never heard of info. To improve the "man-points-to-info" man strategy (which I fully support) perhaps guixSD and guix should include a user-friendly info reader and the man page should point to that. From unknown Sun Jun 22 03:57:43 2025 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: MIME-tools 5.505 (Entity 5.505) X-Loop: help-debbugs@gnu.org From: help-debbugs@gnu.org (GNU bug Tracking System) To: myglc2 Subject: bug#22598: closed (Re: bug#22598: 'info guix' fails on guixSD) Message-ID: References: <87io1yu8aa.fsf@gnu.org> <877fif8ixl.fsf@gmail.com> X-Gnu-PR-Message: they-closed 22598 X-Gnu-PR-Package: guix Reply-To: 22598@debbugs.gnu.org Date: Mon, 08 Feb 2016 22:51:02 +0000 Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="----------=_1454971862-8671-1" This is a multi-part message in MIME format... ------------=_1454971862-8671-1 Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8" Your bug report #22598: 'info guix' fails on guixSD which was filed against the guix package, has been closed. The explanation is attached below, along with your original report. If you require more details, please reply to 22598@debbugs.gnu.org. --=20 22598: http://debbugs.gnu.org/cgi/bugreport.cgi?bug=3D22598 GNU Bug Tracking System Contact help-debbugs@gnu.org with problems ------------=_1454971862-8671-1 Content-Type: message/rfc822 Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Received: (at 22598-done) by debbugs.gnu.org; 8 Feb 2016 22:50:03 +0000 Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:60634 helo=debbugs.gnu.org) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84) (envelope-from ) id 1aSud8-0002EG-T9 for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Mon, 08 Feb 2016 17:50:03 -0500 Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([208.118.235.92]:41872) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84) (envelope-from ) id 1aSud7-0002Db-33 for 22598-done@debbugs.gnu.org; Mon, 08 Feb 2016 17:50:01 -0500 Received: from Debian-exim by eggs.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1aSucy-0006A1-VD for 22598-done@debbugs.gnu.org; Mon, 08 Feb 2016 17:49:56 -0500 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.3.2 (2011-06-06) on eggs.gnu.org X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-2.2 required=5.0 tests=BAYES_00,RP_MATCHES_RCVD autolearn=disabled version=3.3.2 Received: from fencepost.gnu.org ([2001:4830:134:3::e]:39328) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1aSucy-00069x-Rp; Mon, 08 Feb 2016 17:49:52 -0500 Received: from reverse-83.fdn.fr ([80.67.176.83]:48560 helo=pluto) by fencepost.gnu.org with esmtpsa (TLS1.2:RSA_AES_128_CBC_SHA1:128) (Exim 4.82) (envelope-from ) id 1aSucx-0007iL-5c; Mon, 08 Feb 2016 17:49:52 -0500 From: ludo@gnu.org (Ludovic =?utf-8?Q?Court=C3=A8s?=) To: myglc2 Subject: Re: bug#22598: 'info guix' fails on guixSD References: <877fif8ixl.fsf@gmail.com> Date: Mon, 08 Feb 2016 23:49:49 +0100 In-Reply-To: <877fif8ixl.fsf@gmail.com> (myglc2@gmail.com's message of "Mon, 08 Feb 2016 07:50:46 -0500") Message-ID: <87io1yu8aa.fsf@gnu.org> User-Agent: Gnus/5.13 (Gnus v5.13) Emacs/24.5 (gnu/linux) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-detected-operating-system: by eggs.gnu.org: GNU/Linux 2.2.x-3.x [generic] X-Received-From: 2001:4830:134:3::e X-Spam-Score: -5.3 (-----) X-Debbugs-Envelope-To: 22598-done Cc: 22598-done@debbugs.gnu.org X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18 Precedence: list List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Sender: "Debbugs-submit" X-Spam-Score: -5.3 (-----) myglc2 skribis: > However, on guixSD, 'info guix' produces 'bash: info: command not > found'. Indeed, not great. Fixed in 939c5c3. Thanks! Ludo=E2=80=99. ------------=_1454971862-8671-1 Content-Type: message/rfc822 Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Received: (at submit) by debbugs.gnu.org; 8 Feb 2016 12:50:27 +0000 Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:38085 helo=debbugs.gnu.org) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84) (envelope-from ) id 1aSlGt-0000F7-CO for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Mon, 08 Feb 2016 07:50:27 -0500 Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([208.118.235.92]:36646) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84) (envelope-from ) id 1aSlGr-0000Ev-Pd for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Mon, 08 Feb 2016 07:50:26 -0500 Received: from Debian-exim by eggs.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1aSlGm-00078A-0J for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Mon, 08 Feb 2016 07:50:20 -0500 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.3.2 (2011-06-06) on eggs.gnu.org X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=0.8 required=5.0 tests=BAYES_50,FREEMAIL_FROM, HK_RANDOM_ENVFROM autolearn=disabled version=3.3.2 Received: from lists.gnu.org ([2001:4830:134:3::11]:48836) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1aSlGl-000785-Tx for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Mon, 08 Feb 2016 07:50:19 -0500 Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([2001:4830:134:3::10]:55845) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1aSlGl-00061N-2E for bug-guix@gnu.org; Mon, 08 Feb 2016 07:50:19 -0500 Received: from Debian-exim by eggs.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1aSlGg-00076e-Uy for bug-guix@gnu.org; Mon, 08 Feb 2016 07:50:19 -0500 Received: from plane.gmane.org ([80.91.229.3]:32777) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1aSlGg-00076V-N9 for bug-guix@gnu.org; Mon, 08 Feb 2016 07:50:14 -0500 Received: from list by plane.gmane.org with local (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1aSlGf-0000fK-0R for bug-guix@gnu.org; Mon, 08 Feb 2016 13:50:13 +0100 Received: from c-73-167-118-254.hsd1.ma.comcast.net ([73.167.118.254]) by main.gmane.org with esmtp (Gmexim 0.1 (Debian)) id 1AlnuQ-0007hv-00 for ; Mon, 08 Feb 2016 13:50:12 +0100 Received: from myglc2 by c-73-167-118-254.hsd1.ma.comcast.net with local (Gmexim 0.1 (Debian)) id 1AlnuQ-0007hv-00 for ; Mon, 08 Feb 2016 13:50:12 +0100 X-Injected-Via-Gmane: http://gmane.org/ To: bug-guix@gnu.org From: myglc2 Subject: 'info guix' fails on guixSD Date: Mon, 08 Feb 2016 07:50:46 -0500 Lines: 40 Message-ID: <877fif8ixl.fsf@gmail.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain X-Complaints-To: usenet@ger.gmane.org X-Gmane-NNTP-Posting-Host: c-73-167-118-254.hsd1.ma.comcast.net User-Agent: Gnus/5.13 (Gnus v5.13) Emacs/24.5 (gnu/linux) Cancel-Lock: sha1:FJwEQZiqOu+XExiTzalbYhtYYqM= X-detected-operating-system: by eggs.gnu.org: Genre and OS details not recognized. X-detected-operating-system: by eggs.gnu.org: GNU/Linux 2.6.x X-Received-From: 2001:4830:134:3::11 X-Spam-Score: -3.5 (---) X-Debbugs-Envelope-To: submit X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18 Precedence: list List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Sender: "Debbugs-submit" X-Spam-Score: -3.5 (---) 'man guix' is quite likely the first thing a new user types. The man page is a stub to 'info guix'... GUIX(1) [...] If the info and guix programs are properly installed at your site, the command info guix should give you access to the complete manual. However, on guixSD, 'info guix' produces 'bash: info: command not found'. While this result is technically understandable, it does seem rather user-unfriendly. Work arounds (tested on guixSD) are ... 1 guix environment guix info guix 2 tell the user that if info doesn't work, install it. But both of these seem like bad things to say on the first man page. >From a usability point of view, it would probably be best to include info in the global guixSD packages. SIDE THOUGHT: I love reading and using info in emacs. However, I will do almost anything to avoid having to use the actual info program. I expect many potential guix users are the same, or, more likely, have never heard of info. To improve the "man-points-to-info" man strategy (which I fully support) perhaps guixSD and guix should include a user-friendly info reader and the man page should point to that. ------------=_1454971862-8671-1--