Package: emacs;
Reported by: "B.V. Raghav" <bvraghav <at> iitk.ac.in>
Date: Tue, 26 Jan 2016 11:29:02 UTC
Severity: wishlist
Found in version 24.5
Fixed in version 25.1
Done: Lars Ingebrigtsen <larsi <at> gnus.org>
Bug is archived. No further changes may be made.
Message #5 received at submit <at> debbugs.gnu.org (full text, mbox):
From: "B.V. Raghav" <bvraghav <at> iitk.ac.in> To: bug-gnu-emacs <at> gnu.org Subject: 24.5; Doc "Delete Selection Mode" Date: Tue, 26 Jan 2016 16:57:42 +0530
This is a documentation enhancement request:
Where: (emacs)Top > Mark > Using Region
`C-h i d m Emacs RET m Using Region RET`
What:
Change the paragraph from:
By default, text insertion occurs normally even if the mark is
active―for example, typing ‘a’ inserts the character ‘a’, then
deactivates the mark. If you enable Delete Selection mode, a minor
mode, then inserting text while the mark is active causes the text in
the region to be deleted first. To toggle Delete Selection mode on
or off, type ‘M-x delete-selection-mode’.
Change to:
By default, text insertion occurs normally even if the mark is
active―for example, typing ‘a’ inserts the character ‘a’, then
deactivates the mark.
On the other hand, if you enable Delete Selection mode, a minor
mode, then inserting text while the mark is active causes the text in
the region to be deleted first. To toggle Delete Selection mode on
or off, type ‘M-x delete-selection-mode’.
Rationale:
I essentially only introduced a paragraph change and an
interjection. However, I believe that is necessary to make the
distinction between the words `deactivate' and `delete' which are
confused to be similar in the flow of reading.
To illustrate, read the following successively:
`inserts the character ‘a’, then deactivates the mark'
`inserting [...] causes the text [...] to be deleted first'
Though different words, `deactivate' and `delete', they get minced
in the quick read, and are at least mistaken to be of similar
behaviour, which is potentially misleading. And the fact is
`deactivate'-ing the mark is normal behaviour of emacs, and
`delete'-ing is a special behaviour for intended folks.
Inspiration:
http://article.gmane.org/gmane.emacs.help/108581
http://article.gmane.org/gmane.emacs.help/108583
http://article.gmane.org/gmane.emacs.help/108591
In GNU Emacs 24.5.1 (x86_64-pc-linux-gnu, X toolkit, Xaw3d scroll bars)
of 2015-10-25 on trouble, modified by Debian
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