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read-coding-system uses wrong default when called from write-file

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From: help-debbugs <at> gnu.org (GNU bug Tracking System)
To: Eli Zaretskii <eliz <at> gnu.org>
Cc: tracker <at> debbugs.gnu.org
Subject: bug#22436: closed (read-coding-system uses wrong default when
 called from write-file)
Date: Tue, 26 Jan 2016 15:40:02 +0000

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From: Richard Copley <rcopley <at> gmail.com>
To: "bug-gnu-emacs <at> gnu.org" <bug-gnu-emacs <at> gnu.org>
Subject: read-coding-system uses wrong default when called from write-file
Date: Fri, 22 Jan 2016 19:31:07 +0000

From "emacs -Q", enter a ‘ in the scratch buffer (e.g., by typing "C-x
8 ["). Save or write the buffer. The minibuffer prompts "Select coding
system (default chinese-iso-8bit): ".

In GNU Emacs 25.0.50.1 (x86_64-w64-mingw32)
 of 2016-01-22 built on MACHINE
Repository revision: f7dc6d8b5bb318e02a4016d93f8b34de0716f4dc
Windowing system distributor 'Microsoft Corp.', version 10.0.10586
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From: Eli Zaretskii <eliz <at> gnu.org>
To: Richard Copley <rcopley <at> gmail.com>
Cc: 22436-done <at> debbugs.gnu.org, larsi <at> gnus.org
Subject: Re: bug#22436: read-coding-system uses wrong default when called from
 write-file
Date: Tue, 26 Jan 2016 17:39:22 +0200

> From: Richard Copley <rcopley <at> gmail.com>
> Date: Mon, 25 Jan 2016 22:38:15 +0000
> Cc: Lars Magne Ingebrigtsen <larsi <at> gnus.org>, 22436 <at> debbugs.gnu.org
> 
> >> > We can sort the list differently.  But if all we want is to always get
> >> > UTF-8 at the head, there's a much easier way, see my other message
> >> > where I mentioned prefer-coding-system.
> >>
> >> I guess I'm just saying that I think the least surprising default coding
> >> system here would be utf-8.
> >
> > For you, maybe.  What about all those Chinese out there?  What if I'm
> > writing an email to someone in China?  Etc., etc.
> 
> What about them, and everybody else? UTF-8 is good enough
> for all of us.

Not in the Far East, I'm afraid.

> Eli, you asked earlier if this report should be closed. I guess so!
> As you've explained, it's not a bug. I don't like the default
> behaviour, but it's pretty far down the list of things that I don't
> like about "emacs -Q".

OK, closing.  Thanks for pointing that out.

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