From unknown Sat Aug 16 13:39:54 2025 Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: MIME-tools 5.509 (Entity 5.509) Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 From: bug#2222 <2222@debbugs.gnu.org> To: bug#2222 <2222@debbugs.gnu.org> Subject: Status: completion of labels in rmail Reply-To: bug#2222 <2222@debbugs.gnu.org> Date: Sat, 16 Aug 2025 20:39:54 +0000 retitle 2222 completion of labels in rmail reassign 2222 emacs submitter 2222 jpff severity 2222 wishlist tag 2222 wontfix thanks From jpff@codemist.co.uk Fri Feb 6 05:53:37 2009 Received: (at submit) by emacsbugs.donarmstrong.com; 6 Feb 2009 13:53:37 +0000 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.2.5-bugs.debian.org_2005_01_02 (2008-06-10) on rzlab.ucr.edu X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Bayes: score:0.5 Bayes not run. spammytokens:Tokens not available. hammytokens:Tokens not available. X-Spam-Status: No, score=0.2 required=4.0 tests=FOURLA,MDO_DATING14 autolearn=no version=3.2.5-bugs.debian.org_2005_01_02 Received: from fencepost.gnu.org (fencepost.gnu.org [140.186.70.10]) by rzlab.ucr.edu (8.13.8/8.13.8/Debian-3) with ESMTP id n16DrX89009295 for ; Fri, 6 Feb 2009 05:53:35 -0800 Received: from mx10.gnu.org ([199.232.76.166]:51820) by fencepost.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.67) (envelope-from ) id 1LVR7O-00012x-D5 for emacs-pretest-bug@gnu.org; Fri, 06 Feb 2009 08:51:42 -0500 Received: from Debian-exim by monty-python.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.60) (envelope-from ) id 1LVR98-0005vj-KM for emacs-pretest-bug@gnu.org; Fri, 06 Feb 2009 08:53:32 -0500 Received: from smarthost03.mail.zen.net.uk ([212.23.3.142]:39623) by monty-python.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.60) (envelope-from ) id 1LVR98-0005uY-7D for emacs-pretest-bug@gnu.org; Fri, 06 Feb 2009 08:53:30 -0500 Received: from [217.155.197.248] (helo=codemist.co.uk) by smarthost03.mail.zen.net.uk with esmtp (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1LVR8y-00054G-Eb for emacs-pretest-bug@gnu.org; Fri, 06 Feb 2009 13:53:20 +0000 Received: from cardew.codemist.co.uk ([172.16.4.17]) by codemist.co.uk with esmtp (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1LVR8y-0001oZ-7c; Fri, 06 Feb 2009 13:53:20 +0000 Received: from jpff by cardew.codemist.co.uk with local (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1LVR8s-0002Tq-QA; Fri, 06 Feb 2009 13:53:14 +0000 Date: Fri, 6 Feb 2009 13:53:14 +0000 Message-Id: <4300-Fri06Feb2009135314+0000-jpff@codemist.co.uk> X-Mailer: emacs 23.0.90.5 (via feedmail 8 I) From: jpff To: emacs-pretest-bug@gnu.org Subject: 23.0.90; Labels in RMAIL X-Originating-Smarthost03-IP: [217.155.197.248] X-detected-operating-system: by monty-python.gnu.org: GNU/Linux 2.6 (newer, 3) Labels in Rmail no longer provide completion as they did. I realise this is because the Babyl format maintained a list of labels at start of the file, but this is a loss of functionality. Surely which scanning for the ^From lines one could maintain a label list? Would also help towards stopping multiple identical labels perhaps... In GNU Emacs 23.0.90.5 (i686-pc-linux-gnu, GTK+ Version 2.12.0) of 2009-02-06 on cardew Windowing system distributor `The X.Org Foundation', version 11.0.70200000 Important settings: value of $LC_ALL: nil value of $LC_COLLATE: nil value of $LC_CTYPE: nil value of $LC_MESSAGES: nil value of $LC_MONETARY: nil value of $LC_NUMERIC: nil value of $LC_TIME: nil value of $LANG: en_GB.UTF-8 value of $XMODIFIERS: @im=local locale-coding-system: utf-8-unix default-enable-multibyte-characters: t Major mode: C/l Minor modes in effect: shell-dirtrack-mode: t auto-image-file-mode: t show-paren-mode: t display-time-mode: t tooltip-mode: t mouse-wheel-mode: t menu-bar-mode: t file-name-shadow-mode: t global-font-lock-mode: t font-lock-mode: t global-auto-composition-mode: t auto-composition-mode: t auto-encryption-mode: t auto-compression-mode: t line-number-mode: t transient-mark-mode: t abbrev-mode: t Recent input: C-v C-v C-x 4 a N e w SPC f u n c t i o n , SPC d e p l o y e d SPC a s SPC w e l l C-s l o c k C-s C-a SPC a l l SPC o v e r SPC t h i s SPC f i l e C-x C-s M-v M-v M-v M-v M-v M-v M-v M-v M-v C-v < C-v C-v C-v C-v C-v C-v C-v C-v C-v C-v C-v C-v < C-s l l o c k C-a C-x 2 C-x b C-x C-f H / c s o . h C-s C-s * C-x C-s N U L L M-d M-d C-x C-s C-x C-f H / c s o C C-s l o c k C-s C-s C-s C-s C-s C-s C-s C-s C-s C-s C-s C-s C-s C-s C-s C-s C-a C-x 4 a A d d e d SPC SPC t o SPC A P I C-x C-s C-x k C-x k C-x k C-x 1 n SPC d n d SPC a g e n e a l o g y SPC M-m C-x k M-x r e p o r t Recent messages: Saving file /home/jpff/Sourceforge/csound5/H/csound.h... Wrote /home/jpff/Sourceforge/csound5/H/csound.h Wrote /home/jpff/Sourceforge/csound5/OOps/bus.c Making completion list... Mark saved where search started Mark set Saving file /home/jpff/Sourceforge/csound5/ChangeLog... Wrote /home/jpff/Sourceforge/csound5/ChangeLog call-interactively: End of buffer Auto save file for draft message exists; consider M-x mail-recover ==John ffitch From rgm@gnu.org Fri Feb 6 09:30:37 2009 Received: (at control) by emacsbugs.donarmstrong.com; 6 Feb 2009 17:30:37 +0000 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.2.5-bugs.debian.org_2005_01_02 (2008-06-10) on rzlab.ucr.edu X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Bayes: score:0.5 Bayes not run. spammytokens:Tokens not available. hammytokens:Tokens not available. X-Spam-Status: No, score=-5.0 required=4.0 tests=VALID_BTS_CONTROL, X_DEBBUGS_NO_ACK autolearn=ham version=3.2.5-bugs.debian.org_2005_01_02 Received: from fencepost.gnu.org (fencepost.gnu.org [140.186.70.10]) by rzlab.ucr.edu (8.13.8/8.13.8/Debian-3) with ESMTP id n16HUYXJ000885 for ; Fri, 6 Feb 2009 09:30:35 -0800 Received: from rgm by fencepost.gnu.org with local (Exim 4.67) (envelope-from ) id 1LVUVO-0001Sb-Va; Fri, 06 Feb 2009 12:28:43 -0500 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Message-ID: <18828.29514.881172.267619@fencepost.gnu.org> Date: Fri, 6 Feb 2009 12:28:42 -0500 From: Glenn Morris To: control Subject: control message X-Debbugs-No-Ack: yes reassign 2218 emacs,ns merge 2218 2221 reassign 2222 emacs,rmail From rgm@gnu.org Tue Feb 10 20:01:55 2009 Received: (at 2222) by emacsbugs.donarmstrong.com; 11 Feb 2009 04:01:55 +0000 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.2.5-bugs.debian.org_2005_01_02 (2008-06-10) on rzlab.ucr.edu X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Bayes: score:0.5 Bayes not run. spammytokens:Tokens not available. hammytokens:Tokens not available. X-Spam-Status: No, score=-8.0 required=4.0 tests=HAS_BUG_NUMBER, VALID_BTS_CONTROL,X_DEBBUGS_NO_ACK autolearn=ham version=3.2.5-bugs.debian.org_2005_01_02 Received: from fencepost.gnu.org (fencepost.gnu.org [140.186.70.10]) by rzlab.ucr.edu (8.13.8/8.13.8/Debian-3) with ESMTP id n1B41l25008085; Tue, 10 Feb 2009 20:01:48 -0800 Received: from rgm by fencepost.gnu.org with local (Exim 4.67) (envelope-from ) id 1LX6GL-0002je-Qx; Tue, 10 Feb 2009 22:59:49 -0500 From: Glenn Morris To: jpff Cc: 2222@debbugs.gnu.org Subject: Re: bug#2222: 23.0.90; Labels in RMAIL References: <4300-Fri06Feb2009135314+0000-jpff@codemist.co.uk> X-Spook: Waco, Texas subversive PET Armani Ron Brown top secret X-Ran: Uc'3u8*!zi'Q.?yDV/)]'{z`^-y(6x7`FK2N~GIpRm\U=$lBSbw|\qM.bMq2RcwSs2IcS, X-Hue: blue X-Debbugs-No-Ack: yes X-Attribution: GM Date: Tue, 10 Feb 2009 22:59:49 -0500 Message-ID: User-Agent: Gnus (www.gnus.org), GNU Emacs (www.gnu.org/software/emacs/) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii severity 2222 wishlist retitle 2222 completion of labels in rmail jpff wrote: > Labels in Rmail no longer provide completion as they did. They do complete over any labels added within the course of a session, and the standard "unseen" etc. I have just added completion over the labels seen in the current message (cumulative over the course of a session). Still missing is completion over all labels defined for a given folder. That could be done by scanning all the X-RMAIL-KEYWORDS headers, but it might be slow. Leaving this open as a wishlist. From rms@gnu.org Wed Feb 11 13:00:46 2009 Received: (at 2222) by emacsbugs.donarmstrong.com; 11 Feb 2009 21:00:46 +0000 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.2.5-bugs.debian.org_2005_01_02 (2008-06-10) on rzlab.ucr.edu X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Bayes: score:0.5 Bayes not run. spammytokens:Tokens not available. hammytokens:Tokens not available. X-Spam-Status: No, score=-2.9 required=4.0 tests=HAS_BUG_NUMBER,MDO_DATING14 autolearn=ham version=3.2.5-bugs.debian.org_2005_01_02 Received: from fencepost.gnu.org (fencepost.gnu.org [140.186.70.10]) by rzlab.ucr.edu (8.13.8/8.13.8/Debian-3) with ESMTP id n1BL0dvK011702 for <2222@emacsbugs.donarmstrong.com>; Wed, 11 Feb 2009 13:00:40 -0800 Received: from rms by fencepost.gnu.org with local (Exim 4.67) (envelope-from ) id 1LXMAK-00047v-U3; Wed, 11 Feb 2009 15:58:40 -0500 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-15 From: Richard M Stallman To: Glenn Morris , 2222@debbugs.gnu.org CC: jpff@codemist.co.uk, 2222@debbugs.gnu.org In-reply-to: (message from Glenn Morris on Tue, 10 Feb 2009 22:59:49 -0500) Subject: Re: bug#2222: 23.0.90; Labels in RMAIL Reply-to: rms@gnu.org References: Message-Id: Date: Wed, 11 Feb 2009 15:58:40 -0500 Still missing is completion over all labels defined for a given folder. That could be done by scanning all the X-RMAIL-KEYWORDS headers, but it might be slow. That's why I did not implement it. In Babyl format, the list was stored in the beginning of the file, so this completion could be fast. I don't see any reliable way to do that with mbox files. How about adding a user-customizable list of labels to include in each completion? Meanwhile, I think there is no particular reason to us an obarray to hold the labels that have been seen. If we store it as a list, reading a keyword could merge all the lists (attributes, keywords seen, and the keywords specified by the user) each time. They are not likely to be very long lists. From rgm@gnu.org Wed Feb 11 19:32:41 2009 Received: (at 2222) by emacsbugs.donarmstrong.com; 12 Feb 2009 03:32:41 +0000 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.2.5-bugs.debian.org_2005_01_02 (2008-06-10) on rzlab.ucr.edu X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Bayes: score:0.5 Bayes not run. spammytokens:Tokens not available. hammytokens:Tokens not available. X-Spam-Status: No, score=-5.9 required=4.0 tests=HAS_BUG_NUMBER,MDO_DATING14, X_DEBBUGS_NO_ACK autolearn=ham version=3.2.5-bugs.debian.org_2005_01_02 Received: from fencepost.gnu.org (fencepost.gnu.org [140.186.70.10]) by rzlab.ucr.edu (8.13.8/8.13.8/Debian-3) with ESMTP id n1C3WcUL012995 for <2222@emacsbugs.donarmstrong.com>; Wed, 11 Feb 2009 19:32:39 -0800 Received: from rgm by fencepost.gnu.org with local (Exim 4.67) (envelope-from ) id 1LXSHf-0000Yy-CH; Wed, 11 Feb 2009 22:30:39 -0500 From: Glenn Morris To: rms@gnu.org Cc: 2222@debbugs.gnu.org, jpff@codemist.co.uk Subject: Re: bug#2222: 23.0.90; Labels in RMAIL References: X-Spook: Hugo Chavez Mena ASDIC George W. Bush high security X-Ran: '"OPRt@ON'\GpoHAX+=WjCJ+lr{8o6nexPK'UB=w^T'Ht/5,eEdHu:7=}P]{V7"x~wj}+s X-Hue: white X-Debbugs-No-Ack: yes X-Attribution: GM Date: Wed, 11 Feb 2009 22:30:39 -0500 Message-ID: <0ieiy4tjq8.fsf@fencepost.gnu.org> User-Agent: Gnus (www.gnus.org), GNU Emacs (www.gnu.org/software/emacs/) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Richard M Stallman wrote: > Still missing is completion over all labels defined for a given > folder. That could be done by scanning all the X-RMAIL-KEYWORDS > headers, but it might be slow. > > That's why I did not implement it. In Babyl format, the list was > stored in the beginning of the file, so this completion could be fast. > I don't see any reliable way to do that with mbox files. Creating a summary reads the necessary information anyway. I've now made it so that all labels are available for completion after the summary has been generated. So I'd say this is done, except for the no-summary case. From jpff@codemist.co.uk Wed Feb 11 22:20:49 2009 Received: (at 2222) by emacsbugs.donarmstrong.com; 12 Feb 2009 06:20:49 +0000 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.2.5-bugs.debian.org_2005_01_02 (2008-06-10) on rzlab.ucr.edu X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Bayes: score:0.5 Bayes not run. spammytokens:Tokens not available. hammytokens:Tokens not available. X-Spam-Status: No, score=-2.8 required=4.0 tests=FOURLA,HAS_BUG_NUMBER, MDO_DATING14 autolearn=ham version=3.2.5-bugs.debian.org_2005_01_02 Received: from codemist.co.uk (Debian-exim@west.codemist.co.uk [217.155.197.248] (may be forged)) by rzlab.ucr.edu (8.13.8/8.13.8/Debian-3) with ESMTP id n1C6Kk12022841 for <2222@emacsbugs.donarmstrong.com>; Wed, 11 Feb 2009 22:20:47 -0800 Received: from cardew.codemist.co.uk ([172.16.4.17]) by codemist.co.uk with esmtp (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1LXUwH-0006wk-MJ; Thu, 12 Feb 2009 06:20:45 +0000 Received: from jpff by cardew.codemist.co.uk with local (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1LXUwC-00018D-CI; Thu, 12 Feb 2009 06:20:40 +0000 Date: Thu, 12 Feb 2009 06:20:40 +0000 Message-Id: <8993-Thu12Feb2009062040+0000-jpff@codemist.co.uk> X-Mailer: emacs 23.0.90.11 (via feedmail 8 I) From: jpff To: Glenn Morris CC: 2222@debbugs.gnu.org In-reply-to: message from Glenn Morris on Tue, 10 Feb 2009 22:59:49 -0500 Subject: Re: bug#2222: 23.0.90; Labels in RMAIL References: Could one not add a "fake" message at the start of the RMAIL file to carry a list of all tags like in babyl? The thing I had in mind would be like the format used in pop, viz > From MAILER_DAEMON Thu Apr 26 18:16:43 2007 > Date: Thu, 26 Apr 2007 18:16:43 +0100 > From: Mail System Internal Data > Subject: DON'T DELETE THIS MESSAGE -- FOLDER INTERNAL DATA > Message-ID: <1177607803@snout> > X-IMAP: 1177607795 0000000097 > Status: RO > > This text is part of the internal format of your mail folder, and is not > a real message. It is created automatically by the mail system software. > If deleted, important folder data will be lost, and it will be re-created > with the data reset to initial values. Surely that would not be expensive and would allow a tag list to remain, and possibly even carry the -*- rmail -*- stuff? ==John ffitch From xma@gnu.org Thu Feb 12 15:26:11 2009 Received: (at 2222) by emacsbugs.donarmstrong.com; 12 Feb 2009 23:26:11 +0000 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.2.5-bugs.debian.org_2005_01_02 (2008-06-10) on rzlab.ucr.edu X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Bayes: score:0.5 Bayes not run. spammytokens:Tokens not available. hammytokens:Tokens not available. X-Spam-Status: No, score=-2.8 required=4.0 tests=FOURLA,HAS_BUG_NUMBER, MDO_DATING14 autolearn=ham version=3.2.5-bugs.debian.org_2005_01_02 Received: from mf1.conovae.net (ded1.conovae.com [88.191.52.166]) by rzlab.ucr.edu (8.13.8/8.13.8/Debian-3) with ESMTP id n1CNQ7Md020619 for <2222@emacsbugs.donarmstrong.com>; Thu, 12 Feb 2009 15:26:08 -0800 Received: by mf1.conovae.net (Postfix, from userid 10) id 3E5692613E1; Fri, 13 Feb 2009 00:25:46 +0100 (CET) Received: from zogzog.maillard.mobi (IDENT:1000@localhost [127.0.0.1]) by zogzog.maillard.mobi (8.14.3/8.13.8) with ESMTP id n1CNP5kl009493; Fri, 13 Feb 2009 00:25:05 +0100 Received: (from xma@localhost) by zogzog.maillard.mobi (8.14.3/8.13.8/Submit) id n1CNP3n0009492; Fri, 13 Feb 2009 00:25:03 +0100 Date: Fri, 13 Feb 2009 00:25:03 +0100 Message-Id: <200902122325.n1CNP3n0009492@zogzog.maillard.mobi> From: Xavier Maillard To: Richard M Stallman CC: rgm@gnu.org, 2222@debbugs.gnu.org, 2222@debbugs.gnu.org, jpff@codemist.co.uk In-reply-to: message from Richard M Stallman on Wed, 11 Feb 2009 15:58:40 -0500 Subject: Re: bug#2222: 23.0.90; Labels in RMAIL Organization: GNU's Not UNIX! User-Agent: Rmail GNU emacs 23.0 on Slackware 12.2.0 Jabber-ID: xma01@jabber.fr Reply-to: Xavier Maillard References: X-UUCPssh-Information: Please contact the ISP for more information X-UUCPssh: Found to be clean X-UUCPssh-SpamCheck: not spam, SpamAssassin (not cached, score=-4.399, required 6, autolearn=not spam, ALL_TRUSTED -1.80, BAYES_00 -2.60) X-UUCPssh-From: xma@gnu.org Still missing is completion over all labels defined for a given folder. That could be done by scanning all the X-RMAIL-KEYWORDS headers, but it might be slow. That's why I did not implement it. In Babyl format, the list was stored in the beginning of the file, so this completion could be fast. I don't see any reliable way to do that with mbox files. Why not adding a special "fake" message at the beginning of the mbox file ? It could also be hidden by default so not to disturb the user. Or we could maintain a special mbox file with a unique message (still a fake) where we could store the labels. Reading and storing labels would not be that slow for a unique and small message, I guess. WDYT ? Xavier -- http://www.gnu.org http://www.april.org http://www.lolica.org From rms@gnu.org Thu Feb 12 22:36:11 2009 Received: (at 2222) by emacsbugs.donarmstrong.com; 13 Feb 2009 06:36:11 +0000 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.2.5-bugs.debian.org_2005_01_02 (2008-06-10) on rzlab.ucr.edu X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Bayes: score:0.5 Bayes not run. spammytokens:Tokens not available. hammytokens:Tokens not available. X-Spam-Status: No, score=-2.9 required=4.0 tests=HAS_BUG_NUMBER,MDO_DATING14 autolearn=ham version=3.2.5-bugs.debian.org_2005_01_02 Received: from fencepost.gnu.org (fencepost.gnu.org [140.186.70.10]) by rzlab.ucr.edu (8.13.8/8.13.8/Debian-3) with ESMTP id n1D6a8mN030432 for <2222@emacsbugs.donarmstrong.com>; Thu, 12 Feb 2009 22:36:09 -0800 Received: from rms by fencepost.gnu.org with local (Exim 4.67) (envelope-from ) id 1LXrcm-0001fV-CN; Fri, 13 Feb 2009 01:34:08 -0500 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-15 From: Richard M Stallman To: jpff , 2222@debbugs.gnu.org CC: rgm@gnu.org, 2222@debbugs.gnu.org In-reply-to: <8993-Thu12Feb2009062040+0000-jpff@codemist.co.uk> (message from jpff on Thu, 12 Feb 2009 06:20:40 +0000) Subject: Re: bug#2222: 23.0.90; Labels in RMAIL Reply-to: rms@gnu.org References: <8993-Thu12Feb2009062040+0000-jpff@codemist.co.uk> Message-Id: Date: Fri, 13 Feb 2009 01:34:08 -0500 Could one not add a "fake" message at the start of the RMAIL file to carry a list of all tags like in babyl? It is possible, but we have a decision to make: whether to make that message visible in Rmail or hide it. To hide it would require changing perhaps a dozen places. If we show it, what if someone deletes it because it looks like junk? From xma@gnu.org Sat Feb 14 13:27:42 2009 Received: (at 2222) by emacsbugs.donarmstrong.com; 14 Feb 2009 21:27:42 +0000 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.2.5-bugs.debian.org_2005_01_02 (2008-06-10) on rzlab.ucr.edu X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Bayes: score:0.5 Bayes not run. spammytokens:Tokens not available. hammytokens:Tokens not available. X-Spam-Status: No, score=-2.9 required=4.0 tests=HAS_BUG_NUMBER,MDO_DATING14 autolearn=ham version=3.2.5-bugs.debian.org_2005_01_02 Received: from mf1.conovae.net (ded1.conovae.com [88.191.52.166]) by rzlab.ucr.edu (8.13.8/8.13.8/Debian-3) with ESMTP id n1ELRc7x013344 for <2222@emacsbugs.donarmstrong.com>; Sat, 14 Feb 2009 13:27:39 -0800 Received: by mf1.conovae.net (Postfix, from userid 10) id 4394C2613DF; Sat, 14 Feb 2009 22:25:35 +0100 (CET) Received: from zogzog.maillard.mobi (IDENT:1000@localhost [127.0.0.1]) by zogzog.maillard.mobi (8.14.3/8.13.8) with ESMTP id n1ELP8V5021247; Sat, 14 Feb 2009 22:25:08 +0100 Received: (from xma@localhost) by zogzog.maillard.mobi (8.14.3/8.13.8/Submit) id n1ELP8TW021246; Sat, 14 Feb 2009 22:25:08 +0100 Date: Sat, 14 Feb 2009 22:25:08 +0100 Message-Id: <200902142125.n1ELP8TW021246@zogzog.maillard.mobi> From: Xavier Maillard To: rms@gnu.org, 2222@debbugs.gnu.org CC: jpff@codemist.co.uk, 2222@debbugs.gnu.org, 2222@debbugs.gnu.org In-reply-to: message from Richard M Stallman on Fri, 13 Feb 2009 01:34:08 -0500 Subject: Re: bug#2222: 23.0.90; Labels in RMAIL Organization: GNU's Not UNIX! User-Agent: Rmail GNU emacs 23.0 on Slackware 12.2.0 Jabber-ID: xma01@jabber.fr Reply-to: Xavier Maillard References: X-UUCPssh-Information: Please contact the ISP for more information X-UUCPssh: Found to be clean X-UUCPssh-SpamCheck: not spam, SpamAssassin (not cached, score=-4.399, required 6, autolearn=not spam, ALL_TRUSTED -1.80, BAYES_00 -2.60) X-UUCPssh-From: xma@gnu.org Could one not add a "fake" message at the start of the RMAIL file to carry a list of all tags like in babyl? It is possible, but we have a decision to make: whether to make that message visible in Rmail or hide it. To hide it would require changing perhaps a dozen places. If we show it, what if someone deletes it because it looks like junk? If it is correctly documented and the message is well identified, that would not hurt to have it visible. A message with a subject like "Special rmail message, do not delete" could be enough. There is also the other possibility to have this message stored in a `rmail-inbox-list' file member and thus having it out of the user way quite easily. Xavier -- http://www.gnu.org http://www.april.org http://www.lolica.org From rms@gnu.org Mon Feb 16 07:41:42 2009 Received: (at 2222) by emacsbugs.donarmstrong.com; 16 Feb 2009 15:41:42 +0000 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.2.5-bugs.debian.org_2005_01_02 (2008-06-10) on rzlab.ucr.edu X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Bayes: score:0.5 Bayes not run. spammytokens:Tokens not available. hammytokens:Tokens not available. X-Spam-Status: No, score=-3.0 required=4.0 tests=HAS_BUG_NUMBER autolearn=ham version=3.2.5-bugs.debian.org_2005_01_02 Received: from fencepost.gnu.org (fencepost.gnu.org [140.186.70.10]) by rzlab.ucr.edu (8.13.8/8.13.8/Debian-3) with ESMTP id n1GFfdE3004422 for <2222@emacsbugs.donarmstrong.com>; Mon, 16 Feb 2009 07:41:41 -0800 Received: from rms by fencepost.gnu.org with local (Exim 4.67) (envelope-from ) id 1LZ5ZG-0000pu-IC; Mon, 16 Feb 2009 10:39:34 -0500 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-15 From: Richard M Stallman To: Xavier Maillard , 2222@debbugs.gnu.org CC: 2222@debbugs.gnu.org, 2222@debbugs.gnu.org, jpff@codemist.co.uk In-reply-to: <200902142125.n1ELP8TW021246@zogzog.maillard.mobi> (message from Xavier Maillard on Sat, 14 Feb 2009 22:25:08 +0100) Subject: Re: bug#2222: 23.0.90; Labels in RMAIL Reply-to: rms@gnu.org References: <200902142125.n1ELP8TW021246@zogzog.maillard.mobi> Message-Id: Date: Mon, 16 Feb 2009 10:39:34 -0500 If it is correctly documented and the message is well identified, that would not hurt to have it visible. A message with a subject like "Special rmail message, do not delete" could be enough. If Rmail adds this special message only when the file has messages with labels, and if the subject says it exists to record the labels, I think it will be ok to show these messages. This way, most users won't have these messages, and those who do will recognize them as serving a specific useful purpose. The subject could be "Rmail label list for completion". To hide these messages poses a number of problems that each need to be solved. It is less reliable. For instance, what happens if you concatenate two mbox files to make a longer one, and the second one has one of these magic messages at the front? It will end up in the middle of the combined file. If these messages are normally visible, the user will understand how it got there. If they are normally hidden, this one will appear out of the blue. Or should Rmail be prepared to hide any number of such messages? Should it automatically delete any that appear other than at the start of the file? Another advantage of showing them is that you can delete them if you wish. There might be occasions when you don't want any magic added message in your file. If you delete it, it will stay deleted until you read the file into Rmail once again, or use commands to manage labels. From monnier@iro.umontreal.ca Mon Feb 16 11:36:47 2009 Received: (at 2222) by emacsbugs.donarmstrong.com; 16 Feb 2009 19:36:47 +0000 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.2.5-bugs.debian.org_2005_01_02 (2008-06-10) on rzlab.ucr.edu X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Bayes: score:0.5 Bayes not run. spammytokens:Tokens not available. hammytokens:Tokens not available. X-Spam-Status: No, score=-0.5 required=4.0 tests=HAS_BUG_NUMBER,XIRONPORT autolearn=ham version=3.2.5-bugs.debian.org_2005_01_02 Received: from ironport2-out.teksavvy.com (ironport2-out.pppoe.ca [206.248.154.182]) by rzlab.ucr.edu (8.13.8/8.13.8/Debian-3) with ESMTP id n1GJah1N031048 for <2222@emacsbugs.donarmstrong.com>; Mon, 16 Feb 2009 11:36:45 -0800 X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Filtered: true X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Result: AswEALpOmUlMCpTK/2dsb2JhbACBbc9GhBwGgzI X-IronPort-AV: E=Sophos;i="4.38,217,1233550800"; d="scan'208";a="33947975" Received: from 76-10-148-202.dsl.teksavvy.com (HELO pastel.home) ([76.10.148.202]) by ironport2-out.teksavvy.com with ESMTP; 16 Feb 2009 14:36:38 -0500 Received: by pastel.home (Postfix, from userid 20848) id B88968442; Mon, 16 Feb 2009 14:36:37 -0500 (EST) From: Stefan Monnier To: rms@gnu.org Cc: 2222@debbugs.gnu.org, Xavier Maillard , 2222@debbugs.gnu.org, jpff@codemist.co.uk Subject: Re: bug#2222: 23.0.90; Labels in RMAIL Message-ID: References: <200902142125.n1ELP8TW021246@zogzog.maillard.mobi> Date: Mon, 16 Feb 2009 14:36:37 -0500 In-Reply-To: (Richard M. Stallman's message of "Mon, 16 Feb 2009 10:39:34 -0500") User-Agent: Gnus/5.13 (Gnus v5.13) Emacs/23.0.90 (gnu/linux) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii > Another advantage of showing them is that you can delete them if you > wish. There might be occasions when you don't want any magic added > message in your file. If you delete it, it will stay deleted until > you read the file into Rmail once again, or use commands to manage > labels. In your scenario, I can see why it would make sense to show the message. But if such a message is always added (e.g. to store the "-*-rmail-*-" cookie), then it should be made invisible. All in all, it'd be better to avoid having to add such a magic message. Stefan From rgm@gnu.org Mon Feb 16 18:59:26 2009 Received: (at 2222) by emacsbugs.donarmstrong.com; 17 Feb 2009 02:59:27 +0000 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.2.5-bugs.debian.org_2005_01_02 (2008-06-10) on rzlab.ucr.edu X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Bayes: score:0.5 Bayes not run. spammytokens:Tokens not available. hammytokens:Tokens not available. X-Spam-Status: No, score=-6.0 required=4.0 tests=HAS_BUG_NUMBER, X_DEBBUGS_NO_ACK autolearn=ham version=3.2.5-bugs.debian.org_2005_01_02 Received: from fencepost.gnu.org (fencepost.gnu.org [140.186.70.10]) by rzlab.ucr.edu (8.13.8/8.13.8/Debian-3) with ESMTP id n1H2xONl011016 for <2222@emacsbugs.donarmstrong.com>; Mon, 16 Feb 2009 18:59:25 -0800 Received: from rgm by fencepost.gnu.org with local (Exim 4.67) (envelope-from ) id 1LZG98-0003Cm-JX; Mon, 16 Feb 2009 21:57:18 -0500 From: Glenn Morris To: rms@gnu.org Cc: 2222@debbugs.gnu.org, Xavier Maillard , jpff@codemist.co.uk Subject: Re: bug#2222: 23.0.90; Labels in RMAIL References: <200902142125.n1ELP8TW021246@zogzog.maillard.mobi> X-Spook: doctrine Echelon Montenegro Sears Tower spy CIA ISEC X-Ran: u,mx6k{7^_-:.>pv_F&|eh7$i#{'pvQJp`03HXzU@[tG'H.jbt*h%1|d>Z$xBc3NygLVqP X-Hue: cyan X-Debbugs-No-Ack: yes X-Attribution: GM Date: Mon, 16 Feb 2009 21:57:18 -0500 In-Reply-To: (Richard M. Stallman's message of "Mon, 16 Feb 2009 10:39:34 -0500") Message-ID: User-Agent: Gnus (www.gnus.org), GNU Emacs (www.gnu.org/software/emacs/) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Richard M Stallman wrote: > If Rmail adds this special message > only when the file has messages with labels, I think adding a "special message" just so you can offer completion of labels (in the case where you don't want to generate a summary) is overly complex and generally not a good idea. From rms@gnu.org Tue Feb 17 04:15:35 2009 Received: (at 2222) by emacsbugs.donarmstrong.com; 17 Feb 2009 12:15:35 +0000 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.2.5-bugs.debian.org_2005_01_02 (2008-06-10) on rzlab.ucr.edu X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Bayes: score:0.5 Bayes not run. spammytokens:Tokens not available. hammytokens:Tokens not available. X-Spam-Status: No, score=-3.0 required=4.0 tests=HAS_BUG_NUMBER autolearn=ham version=3.2.5-bugs.debian.org_2005_01_02 Received: from fencepost.gnu.org (fencepost.gnu.org [140.186.70.10]) by rzlab.ucr.edu (8.13.8/8.13.8/Debian-3) with ESMTP id n1HCFWCV021048 for <2222@emacsbugs.donarmstrong.com>; Tue, 17 Feb 2009 04:15:33 -0800 Received: from rms by fencepost.gnu.org with local (Exim 4.67) (envelope-from ) id 1LZOpK-00079T-Di; Tue, 17 Feb 2009 07:13:26 -0500 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-15 From: Richard M Stallman To: Stefan Monnier CC: 2222@debbugs.gnu.org, xma@gnu.org, 2222@debbugs.gnu.org, jpff@codemist.co.uk In-reply-to: (message from Stefan Monnier on Mon, 16 Feb 2009 14:36:37 -0500) Subject: Re: bug#2222: 23.0.90; Labels in RMAIL Reply-to: rms@gnu.org References: Message-Id: Date: Tue, 17 Feb 2009 07:13:26 -0500 In your scenario, I can see why it would make sense to show the message. But if such a message is always added (e.g. to store the "-*-rmail-*-" cookie), then it should be made invisible. There is no need for that. Just to check that it is an Rmail file, searching for the X-RMAIL-ATTRIBUTES header is sufficient. From rms@gnu.org Tue Feb 17 10:06:22 2009 Received: (at 2222) by emacsbugs.donarmstrong.com; 17 Feb 2009 18:06:22 +0000 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.2.5-bugs.debian.org_2005_01_02 (2008-06-10) on rzlab.ucr.edu X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Bayes: score:0.5 Bayes not run. spammytokens:Tokens not available. hammytokens:Tokens not available. X-Spam-Status: No, score=-3.0 required=4.0 tests=HAS_BUG_NUMBER autolearn=ham version=3.2.5-bugs.debian.org_2005_01_02 Received: from fencepost.gnu.org (fencepost.gnu.org [140.186.70.10]) by rzlab.ucr.edu (8.13.8/8.13.8/Debian-3) with ESMTP id n1HI6J58012523 for <2222@emacsbugs.donarmstrong.com>; Tue, 17 Feb 2009 10:06:20 -0800 Received: from rms by fencepost.gnu.org with local (Exim 4.67) (envelope-from ) id 1LZUIn-0000Vs-9j; Tue, 17 Feb 2009 13:04:13 -0500 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-15 From: Richard M Stallman To: Glenn Morris , 2222@debbugs.gnu.org CC: 2222@debbugs.gnu.org, jpff@codemist.co.uk In-reply-to: (message from Glenn Morris on Mon, 16 Feb 2009 21:57:18 -0500) Subject: Re: bug#2222: 23.0.90; Labels in RMAIL Reply-to: rms@gnu.org References: Message-Id: Date: Tue, 17 Feb 2009 13:04:13 -0500 I think adding a "special message" just so you can offer completion of labels (in the case where you don't want to generate a summary) is overly complex and generally not a good idea. I have no opinion about whether label completion justifies this complexity. From xma@gnu.org Tue Feb 17 15:53:43 2009 Received: (at 2222) by emacsbugs.donarmstrong.com; 17 Feb 2009 23:53:44 +0000 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.2.5-bugs.debian.org_2005_01_02 (2008-06-10) on rzlab.ucr.edu X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Bayes: score:0.5 Bayes not run. spammytokens:Tokens not available. hammytokens:Tokens not available. X-Spam-Status: No, score=-3.0 required=4.0 tests=HAS_BUG_NUMBER autolearn=ham version=3.2.5-bugs.debian.org_2005_01_02 Received: from mf1.conovae.net (ded1.conovae.com [88.191.52.166]) by rzlab.ucr.edu (8.13.8/8.13.8/Debian-3) with ESMTP id n1HNrdl0014819 for <2222@emacsbugs.donarmstrong.com>; Tue, 17 Feb 2009 15:53:41 -0800 Received: by mf1.conovae.net (Postfix, from userid 10) id A78CD261402; Wed, 18 Feb 2009 00:51:36 +0100 (CET) Received: from zogzog.maillard.mobi (IDENT:1000@localhost [127.0.0.1]) by zogzog.maillard.mobi (8.14.3/8.13.8) with ESMTP id n1HNtrxq022484; Wed, 18 Feb 2009 00:55:53 +0100 Received: (from xma@localhost) by zogzog.maillard.mobi (8.14.3/8.13.8/Submit) id n1HNtqVp022483; Wed, 18 Feb 2009 00:55:52 +0100 Date: Wed, 18 Feb 2009 00:55:52 +0100 Message-Id: <200902172355.n1HNtqVp022483@zogzog.maillard.mobi> X-Authentication-Warning: zogzog.maillard.mobi: xma set sender to xma@gnu.org using -f From: Xavier Maillard To: Stefan Monnier CC: rms@gnu.org, 2222@debbugs.gnu.org, 2222@debbugs.gnu.org, jpff@codemist.co.uk In-reply-to: message from Stefan Monnier on Mon, 16 Feb 2009 14:36:37 -0500 Subject: Re: bug#2222: 23.0.90; Labels in RMAIL Organization: GNU's Not UNIX! User-Agent: Rmail GNU emacs 23.0 on Slackware 12.2.0 Jabber-ID: xma01@jabber.fr Reply-to: Xavier Maillard References: X-UUCPssh-Information: Please contact the ISP for more information X-UUCPssh: Found to be clean X-UUCPssh-SpamCheck: not spam, SpamAssassin (not cached, score=-4.399, required 6, autolearn=not spam, ALL_TRUSTED -1.80, BAYES_00 -2.60) X-UUCPssh-From: xma@gnu.org All in all, it'd be better to avoid having to add such a magic message. After some thinking, I tend to agree. Even more, I think we should deport all X-RMAIL-* headers outside the rmail file and keep it untouched. How does other MUA do ? Gnus has a newsrc file AFAIK, we can take inspiration and implement something like that. Xavier -- http://www.gnu.org http://www.april.org http://www.lolica.org From xma@gnu.org Tue Feb 17 15:53:44 2009 Received: (at 2222) by emacsbugs.donarmstrong.com; 17 Feb 2009 23:53:44 +0000 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.2.5-bugs.debian.org_2005_01_02 (2008-06-10) on rzlab.ucr.edu X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Bayes: score:0.5 Bayes not run. spammytokens:Tokens not available. hammytokens:Tokens not available. X-Spam-Status: No, score=-2.9 required=4.0 tests=FOURLA,HAS_BUG_NUMBER autolearn=ham version=3.2.5-bugs.debian.org_2005_01_02 Received: from mf1.conovae.net (ded1.conovae.com [88.191.52.166]) by rzlab.ucr.edu (8.13.8/8.13.8/Debian-3) with ESMTP id n1HNrdL1014820 for <2222@emacsbugs.donarmstrong.com>; Tue, 17 Feb 2009 15:53:41 -0800 Received: by mf1.conovae.net (Postfix, from userid 10) id 9637F261400; Wed, 18 Feb 2009 00:51:36 +0100 (CET) Received: from zogzog.maillard.mobi (IDENT:1000@localhost [127.0.0.1]) by zogzog.maillard.mobi (8.14.3/8.13.8) with ESMTP id n1HNtnpu022469; Wed, 18 Feb 2009 00:55:49 +0100 Received: (from xma@localhost) by zogzog.maillard.mobi (8.14.3/8.13.8/Submit) id n1HNtnNm022468; Wed, 18 Feb 2009 00:55:49 +0100 Date: Wed, 18 Feb 2009 00:55:49 +0100 Message-Id: <200902172355.n1HNtnNm022468@zogzog.maillard.mobi> X-Authentication-Warning: zogzog.maillard.mobi: xma set sender to xma@gnu.org using -f From: Xavier Maillard To: Glenn Morris CC: rms@gnu.org, 2222@debbugs.gnu.org, jpff@codemist.co.uk In-reply-to: message from Glenn Morris on Mon, 16 Feb 2009 21:57:18 -0500 Subject: Re: bug#2222: 23.0.90; Labels in RMAIL Organization: GNU's Not UNIX! User-Agent: Rmail GNU emacs 23.0 on Slackware 12.2.0 Jabber-ID: xma01@jabber.fr Reply-to: Xavier Maillard References: X-UUCPssh-Information: Please contact the ISP for more information X-UUCPssh: Found to be clean X-UUCPssh-SpamCheck: not spam, SpamAssassin (not cached, score=-4.399, required 6, autolearn=not spam, ALL_TRUSTED -1.80, BAYES_00 -2.60) X-UUCPssh-From: xma@gnu.org Richard M Stallman wrote: > If Rmail adds this special message > only when the file has messages with labels, I think adding a "special message" just so you can offer completion of labels (in the case where you don't want to generate a summary) is overly complex and generally not a good idea. I do not agree and as far as I know, label completion is not working until a label "has been activated during the rmail session" -i.e. it has nothing to do with summary generation. Apart this solution and a an third-party index file, how would you do that ? (Parsing is not the right solution given the fact rmail files can be quite huge; mine is currently 10K messages ~190Mb). We must implement something like a TOC inside rmail file and ideally in a form that would not prevent user on using other mbox readers to work reliably. If the addition is not the right thing, maybe an index file following mbox file naming convention would not hurt: INBOX.mbox -> INBOX.idx ? Or a global index file referencing all *already* visited mbox files with their list of LABELS ? This does not sound complicated to implement this, does it ? WDYT ? Xavier -- http://www.gnu.org http://www.april.org http://www.lolica.org From monnier@iro.umontreal.ca Tue Feb 17 19:02:34 2009 Received: (at 2222) by emacsbugs.donarmstrong.com; 18 Feb 2009 03:02:34 +0000 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.2.5-bugs.debian.org_2005_01_02 (2008-06-10) on rzlab.ucr.edu X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Bayes: score:0.5 Bayes not run. spammytokens:Tokens not available. hammytokens:Tokens not available. X-Spam-Status: No, score=-0.4 required=4.0 tests=FOURLA,HAS_BUG_NUMBER, XIRONPORT autolearn=ham version=3.2.5-bugs.debian.org_2005_01_02 Received: from ironport2-out.teksavvy.com (ironport2-out.teksavvy.com [206.248.154.182]) by rzlab.ucr.edu (8.13.8/8.13.8/Debian-3) with ESMTP id n1I32Vqp006400 for <2222@emacsbugs.donarmstrong.com>; Tue, 17 Feb 2009 19:02:32 -0800 X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Filtered: true X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Result: ApsEAE8Im0lMCpTK/2dsb2JhbACBbtIPhBMGgzU X-IronPort-AV: E=Sophos;i="4.38,225,1233550800"; d="scan'208";a="34015704" Received: from 76-10-148-202.dsl.teksavvy.com (HELO ceviche.home) ([76.10.148.202]) by ironport2-out.teksavvy.com with ESMTP; 17 Feb 2009 22:02:25 -0500 Received: by ceviche.home (Postfix, from userid 20848) id 8B637B4123; Tue, 17 Feb 2009 22:02:25 -0500 (EST) From: Stefan Monnier To: Xavier Maillard Cc: rms@gnu.org, 2222@debbugs.gnu.org, jpff@codemist.co.uk Subject: Re: bug#2222: 23.0.90; Labels in RMAIL Message-ID: References: <200902172355.n1HNtqVp022483@zogzog.maillard.mobi> Date: Tue, 17 Feb 2009 22:02:25 -0500 In-Reply-To: <200902172355.n1HNtqVp022483@zogzog.maillard.mobi> (Xavier Maillard's message of "Wed, 18 Feb 2009 00:55:52 +0100") User-Agent: Gnus/5.13 (Gnus v5.13) Emacs/23.0.90 (gnu/linux) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii > After some thinking, I tend to agree. Even more, I think we > should deport all X-RMAIL-* headers outside the rmail file and > keep it untouched. Just like it's better to avoid adding a magic message, it's also better to avoid adding a separate file, I think. OTOH adding a special header is pretty harmless. Admittedly, adding a separate file would allow major performance improvements, but it would need to be able to react correctly to external changes (after all, that's one of the motivation for switching to mbox). Stefan From xma@gnu.org Wed Feb 18 16:20:49 2009 Received: (at 2222) by emacsbugs.donarmstrong.com; 19 Feb 2009 00:20:49 +0000 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.2.5-bugs.debian.org_2005_01_02 (2008-06-10) on rzlab.ucr.edu X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Bayes: score:0.5 Bayes not run. spammytokens:Tokens not available. hammytokens:Tokens not available. X-Spam-Status: No, score=-3.0 required=4.0 tests=HAS_BUG_NUMBER autolearn=ham version=3.2.5-bugs.debian.org_2005_01_02 Received: from mf1.conovae.net (ded1.conovae.com [88.191.52.166]) by rzlab.ucr.edu (8.13.8/8.13.8/Debian-3) with ESMTP id n1J0Kj2k014048 for <2222@emacsbugs.donarmstrong.com>; Wed, 18 Feb 2009 16:20:47 -0800 Received: by mf1.conovae.net (Postfix, from userid 10) id C718B261403; Thu, 19 Feb 2009 01:19:38 +0100 (CET) Received: from zogzog.maillard.mobi (IDENT:1000@localhost [127.0.0.1]) by zogzog.maillard.mobi (8.14.3/8.13.8) with ESMTP id n1J0O6LO011414; Thu, 19 Feb 2009 01:24:06 +0100 Received: (from xma@localhost) by zogzog.maillard.mobi (8.14.3/8.13.8/Submit) id n1J0O4sq011413; Thu, 19 Feb 2009 01:24:04 +0100 Date: Thu, 19 Feb 2009 01:24:04 +0100 Message-Id: <200902190024.n1J0O4sq011413@zogzog.maillard.mobi> X-Authentication-Warning: zogzog.maillard.mobi: xma set sender to xma@gnu.org using -f From: Xavier Maillard To: Stefan Monnier CC: rms@gnu.org, 2222@debbugs.gnu.org, jpff@codemist.co.uk In-reply-to: message from Stefan Monnier on Tue, 17 Feb 2009 22:02:25 -0500 Subject: Re: bug#2222: 23.0.90; Labels in RMAIL Organization: GNU's Not UNIX! User-Agent: Rmail GNU emacs 23.0 on Slackware 12.2.0 Jabber-ID: xma01@jabber.fr Reply-to: Xavier Maillard References: X-UUCPssh-Information: Please contact the ISP for more information X-UUCPssh: Found to be clean X-UUCPssh-SpamCheck: not spam, SpamAssassin (not cached, score=-4.399, required 6, autolearn=not spam, ALL_TRUSTED -1.80, BAYES_00 -2.60) X-UUCPssh-From: xma@gnu.org Admittedly, adding a separate file would allow major performance improvements, but it would need to be able to react correctly to external changes (after all, that's one of the motivation for switching to mbox). Correct. 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